Re: Merging Files or Other Method getting Transactions into main File.

2018-01-29 Thread Adrien Monteleone
GnuCash for Android is a separate project. The developers of GnuCash (or this 
mailing list) are not affiliated with it.

The GnuCash project has a link to it because users of GnuCash may be interested 
in it.

So you’ve found that this 3rd party app for your phone had a bug. That happens 
from time to time with any software, including GnuCash itself. The bug, as has 
been noted on this forum very recently (last few days) MANY times, has been 
fixed in newer releases.

I would think removing mention of the app from the GnuCash website on account 
of a bug would be a bit too far.

Just update the app on your phone and re-export the data.

Is that not possible for you?

Perhaps I’m misunderstanding, but I didn’t interpret that the bug was a damage 
to the data file on the phone, but rather an incorrect export. If it really did 
damage your file, other than restoring from a backup and manually entering in 
the later transactions, or manually keying in everything from the phone to the 
desktop version, I’m not sure there’s a simpler solution. But if you can see 
the full data on the phone, then I suspect updating the app and re-exporting 
will solve the dilemma.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jan 30, 2018, at 12:59 AM, john_mike  
> wrote:
> 
> Confused!
> 
> Back ground : Trying to get damaged transactions from phone to main file.
> Transactions entered whilst phone app had some sort of double minus problem.
> 
> 
> What I have done:
> 
> The only way to repair the transactions was to export as an XML file. Open
> that XML in GNUCash. Go through line by line and enter amounts.
> 
> Now I want these transactions to be imported into my main file.
> 
> 
> I have attempted to export these corrected transactions to a QIF File. But
> this option does not seem to exist. So have followed the export to CSV file.
> 
> Now when attempting to import these CSV files to my main file. It fails.
> 
> So is there a way to simply merging the two XML files rather than importing
> them.
> 
> 
> If not I will print the transactions out and start manually entering them in
> my main file as this is now totally beyond a joke.
> 
> I say again. 
> 
> AS THE GNUCASH ANDROID APP DOES NOT WORK PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE REMOVE IT FROM
> THE GNUCASH WEB SITE SO THAT NO ONE ELSE SUFFERS THIS HUGE WASTE OF TIME.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]

2018-01-29 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Matt,

You lost me again.

I don’t understand why you’d have a negative 'segmented spending money' asset.

You receive a paycheck, say $1000.

You earmark 50% of that into various sub-accounts.

You still have $1000.

There’s no negative balance on any asset account.

Perhaps your checking account holds $500 of that money, and each of four 
sub-accounts hold $250, $150, $50 & $50 respectively. That all adds up to $1000.

The act of earmarking funds moves you from one account with a single positive 
$1000 balance to 5 accounts totaling a positive $1000 balance NONE of which are 
negative.

Where’s the ‘negative segmented money account?’

Please describe with debits and credits. I don’t see it. What I see is this:

Receipt of money with segregation:

Dr. Assets:Checking $500
Dr. Assets:Checking:Vacation$250
Dr. Assets:Checking:Insurance   $150
Dr. Assets:Checking:Dining  $ 50
Dr. Assets:Checking:Coffee&Tea  $ 50
Cr. Income:Salary   $1000

When you go out for lunch I see this:

Dr. Expenses:Dining $20
Cr. Assets:Checking:Dining  $20

How does recording an expense INCREASE the allocated cash for Dining as you 
describe? (making it less negative) How was it negative in the first place? 
What transaction did you record to make it so? Note, for an asset to be 
‘negative’ it has to have a ‘credit’ balance, that is, credits have to be 
greater than debits. Making an asset account ‘less negative’ is a debit 
transaction. (since asset accounts are usually debit positive balanced) Debits 
don’t decrease an asset, they increase it. Spending money never gives you more 
to spend, it means you have less. Spending money is always (eventually) a 
credit to assets, never a debit.

I can’t see any scenario where that above example of going out for lunch looks 
like this:

Dr. Expenses:Dining $20
Dr. Assets:Checking:Dining  $20
Cr. $40

If that would even begin to make any sense why $40 is moving somewhere instead 
of just $20.

Note, doing this:

Dr. Assets:Checking:Dining  $20
Cr. Expenses:Dining $20

Is an incorrect transaction if you SPENT the money. (as opposed to receiving a 
refund, or correcting a prior error) Crediting an expense is a refund/reversing 
condition, not a normal expenditure.

When you record the receipt of money, that goes to an income/revenue account, 
split with the physical asset account for the form you received the payment in. 
Generally, this will be a credit to ‘income’ and a debit to ‘cash.’ Where and 
how do you record the receipt of money as a credit to an asset instead and how 
does that balance against your credit to your income account?

i.e.—

Dr. $1000
Cr. Income:Salary   $1000
Cr. Assets:??

Regards,
Adrien


> On Jan 29, 2018, at 11:25 PM, Matt Graham  wrote:
> 
> Ah, true. I guess this is why I favored "triggered transactions " rather than 
> "template transactions".
> 
> I want a transaction involving expense account "spending money" to 
> automatically add two more splits to reduce the asset account "segmented 
> spending money" balanced by increasing the value of "allocated cash" asset 
> acct (increase = make it less negative).
> 
> For saving up for something expensive, I would still set up the above, but I 
> would need to manually change the numbers if I wanted to return the 
> allocation to zero.
> 
> So when I enter:
> 
> Cr account I used to pay insurance 1150
> Dr expense account for insurance (with the trigger attached) 1150
> 
> I would want gnucash to automatically add the splits
> 
> Cr account I am using to segment insurance money 1150
> Dr account showing allocated cash 1150.
> 
> I would the (during my reconciling/budget review) need to amend that 
> transaction (or create a new one to return the insurance allocation to zero.
> 
> For many of my other money allocations (eg restaurants/cafe) I wouldnt change 
> it - underspending means the money is available for later.
> 
> Am I understanding you right?
> 
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> Matt
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Mike or Penny Novack 
> Date: 30/1/18 09:31 (GMT+10:00)
> To: Matt Graham 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
> 
> On 1/28/2018 8:11 PM, Matt Graham wrote:
>  When you look at what liabilities really are, Adrien and I concluded 
> on this thread that this situation (segmenting money for future) is really 
> using a separate asset account. After all - creating a liability INCREASES 
> your cash available. ...
> Yes, the problem precisely, we aren't assigning the same meaning to 
> "available" and "liability"
> 
> But your example of what you would like to see:
> 
> Template transactions (I'd probably call them "Triggerred transactions", but 
> it doesn'tmatter) sound awesome. As someone else highlighted, there

Merging Files or Other Method getting Transactions into main File.

2018-01-29 Thread john_mike
Confused!

Back ground : Trying to get damaged transactions from phone to main file.
Transactions entered whilst phone app had some sort of double minus problem.


What I have done:

The only way to repair the transactions was to export as an XML file. Open
that XML in GNUCash. Go through line by line and enter amounts.

Now I want these transactions to be imported into my main file.


I have attempted to export these corrected transactions to a QIF File. But
this option does not seem to exist. So have followed the export to CSV file.

Now when attempting to import these CSV files to my main file. It fails.

So is there a way to simply merging the two XML files rather than importing
them.


If not I will print the transactions out and start manually entering them in
my main file as this is now totally beyond a joke.

I say again. 

AS THE GNUCASH ANDROID APP DOES NOT WORK PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE REMOVE IT FROM
THE GNUCASH WEB SITE SO THAT NO ONE ELSE SUFFERS THIS HUGE WASTE OF TIME.








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Re: info about action field in double-line view

2018-01-29 Thread David Carlson
Dave, you got me!  I didn't look carefully before replying.  I too get 'y'
as a result of a reconcile! :-)

David C

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Dave H  wrote:

> My workflow is remarkably similar but my transactions are marked as "y"
> when they get reconciled :-)
>
> I wouldn't mind also being able to flag a transaction as 'p' = pending for
> the pending credit card transactions and 's' = scheduled when I have
> scheduled a future transaction in online banking but I was told previously
> that it's a binary value even though it transitions from 'n' to 'c' to 'y'
> in my world !!!
>
> Cheers Dave H.
>
>
> On 30 January 2018 at 11:36, Buddha Buck  wrote:
>
> > Here's the workflow that I ideally go through.
> >
> > During the month, I order something online using a credit card.
> >
> > When I enter the transaction into GnuCash, the split associated with the
> > transaction in the credit card account is tagged "n".
> >
> > The next day, I check my online banking, and I see that the credit card
> > company considers the transaction "pending". I leave it tagged as "n".
> > The next day, I check again, and now the transaction is charged against
> my
> > account, and is no longer "pending". I tag the entry in GnuCash as "c",
> > cleared.
> >
> > At the end of the month, I receive my statement, and I run the
> > "reconciliation" process in GnuCash. GnuCash automatically cherry-picks
> > "cleared" transactions for me, and I look for any discrepancy
> (transactions
> > that haven't cleared, or transactions on the card I don't have recorded,
> > etc). When I am satisfied that all is well, I tell GnuCash that the
> > reconciliation is complete, and it marks the reconciled transactions as
> > "r". In the future, when you go to reconcile the next month, it won't
> > consider the ones already reconciled.
> >
> > GnuCash also shows multiple balances for an account: a current balance, a
> > future balance, a reconciled balance, and a cleared balance. At any given
> > time, the "cleared balance" should match match what the online banking
> says
> > it should be, the "reconciled balance" matches your last statement
> balance.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:59 PM Mark Hedges 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks all.
> > >
> > > I don't understand the difference between "cleared" and "reconciled"
> > > in Gnucash context.  Someone mentioned that one changes R from "n" to
> > > "c" when they see the charge in their bank statement or online
> > > banking.  How is that different in terms of information flow from
> > > using the reconciliation feature to do exactly the same thing?  I
> > > still end up having to cherry-pick individual transactions to make the
> > > balance work out.
> > >
> > > Regarding the Num field, I understand that this would be a check
> > > number if anyone paid for much with checks anymore.  For checking visa
> > > or ACH transactions, am I supposed to record the transaction number
> > > from the bank online balance sheet or statement?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Mark
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Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]

2018-01-29 Thread Matt Graham
Ah, true. I guess this is why I favored "triggered transactions " rather than 
"template transactions".

I want a transaction involving expense account "spending money" to 
automatically add two more splits to reduce the asset account "segmented 
spending money" balanced by increasing the value of "allocated cash" asset acct 
(increase = make it less negative).

For saving up for something expensive, I would still set up the above, but I 
would need to manually change the numbers if I wanted to return the allocation 
to zero.

So when I enter:

Cr account I used to pay insurance 1150
Dr expense account for insurance (with the trigger attached) 1150

I would want gnucash to automatically add the splits

Cr account I am using to segment insurance money 1150
Dr account showing allocated cash 1150.

I would the (during my reconciling/budget review) need to amend that 
transaction (or create a new one to return the insurance allocation to zero.

For many of my other money allocations (eg restaurants/cafe) I wouldnt change 
it - underspending means the money is available for later.

Am I understanding you right?


Thanks and regards,
Matt


 Original message 
From: Mike or Penny Novack 
Date: 30/1/18 09:31 (GMT+10:00)
To: Matt Graham 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]

On 1/28/2018 8:11 PM, Matt Graham wrote:
 When you look at what liabilities really are, Adrien and I concluded 
on this thread that this situation (segmenting money for future) is really 
using a separate asset account. After all - creating a liability INCREASES your 
cash available. ...
Yes, the problem precisely, we aren't assigning the same meaning to "available" 
and "liability"

But your example of what you would like to see:

Template transactions (I'd probably call them "Triggerred transactions", but it 
doesn'tmatter) sound awesome. As someone else highlighted, there are 
implementation difficulties to consider, but I dont think that it would be too 
onerous.

In terms of spending from another account but recording against a sub-account, 
its easy:
Dr Exp whatever account
Cr Cash I pay for something awesome
Dr Parent account the amount I paid
Cr sub-account the amount I paid

SPECIAL CASE of a GENERAL requirement. The special case might be easy to 
implement BUT in general the amounts are NOT going to be the same.

This is actually a fairly common situation for me, say one of the organizations 
SELLS a tee shirt (fundraising, but tee shirts might also be being given away 
to volunteers).
Db   Cash
Cr   Sales
Db   Cost of goods sold
Cr   Tee shirt inventory
<< the shirts might be being sold for $20 but cost the organization $7 >>

Or, and though this is common with our restricted funds (not exactly matching) 
I will give an example precisely for your situation. You socked away into this 
reserve $100/mo toward the annual renewal of your car insurance based on your 
ESTIMATE of what that annual bill will be. But when the bill arrives it is for 
$1150 or $1250. In both cases you pay the bill and release the restriction, 
yes? << in one case, you had more in the fund than needed but it still can be 
released to general purposes, in the other you used all of the fund AND had to 
add some general funds >>

Michael D Novack



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Re: info about action field in double-line view

2018-01-29 Thread Dave H
My workflow is remarkably similar but my transactions are marked as "y"
when they get reconciled :-)

I wouldn't mind also being able to flag a transaction as 'p' = pending for
the pending credit card transactions and 's' = scheduled when I have
scheduled a future transaction in online banking but I was told previously
that it's a binary value even though it transitions from 'n' to 'c' to 'y'
in my world !!!

Cheers Dave H.


On 30 January 2018 at 11:36, Buddha Buck  wrote:

> Here's the workflow that I ideally go through.
>
> During the month, I order something online using a credit card.
>
> When I enter the transaction into GnuCash, the split associated with the
> transaction in the credit card account is tagged "n".
>
> The next day, I check my online banking, and I see that the credit card
> company considers the transaction "pending". I leave it tagged as "n".
> The next day, I check again, and now the transaction is charged against my
> account, and is no longer "pending". I tag the entry in GnuCash as "c",
> cleared.
>
> At the end of the month, I receive my statement, and I run the
> "reconciliation" process in GnuCash. GnuCash automatically cherry-picks
> "cleared" transactions for me, and I look for any discrepancy (transactions
> that haven't cleared, or transactions on the card I don't have recorded,
> etc). When I am satisfied that all is well, I tell GnuCash that the
> reconciliation is complete, and it marks the reconciled transactions as
> "r". In the future, when you go to reconcile the next month, it won't
> consider the ones already reconciled.
>
> GnuCash also shows multiple balances for an account: a current balance, a
> future balance, a reconciled balance, and a cleared balance. At any given
> time, the "cleared balance" should match match what the online banking says
> it should be, the "reconciled balance" matches your last statement balance.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:59 PM Mark Hedges 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks all.
> >
> > I don't understand the difference between "cleared" and "reconciled"
> > in Gnucash context.  Someone mentioned that one changes R from "n" to
> > "c" when they see the charge in their bank statement or online
> > banking.  How is that different in terms of information flow from
> > using the reconciliation feature to do exactly the same thing?  I
> > still end up having to cherry-pick individual transactions to make the
> > balance work out.
> >
> > Regarding the Num field, I understand that this would be a check
> > number if anyone paid for much with checks anymore.  For checking visa
> > or ACH transactions, am I supposed to record the transaction number
> > from the bank online balance sheet or statement?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Mark
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Re: info about action field in double-line view

2018-01-29 Thread Buddha Buck
Here's the workflow that I ideally go through.

During the month, I order something online using a credit card.

When I enter the transaction into GnuCash, the split associated with the
transaction in the credit card account is tagged "n".

The next day, I check my online banking, and I see that the credit card
company considers the transaction "pending". I leave it tagged as "n".
The next day, I check again, and now the transaction is charged against my
account, and is no longer "pending". I tag the entry in GnuCash as "c",
cleared.

At the end of the month, I receive my statement, and I run the
"reconciliation" process in GnuCash. GnuCash automatically cherry-picks
"cleared" transactions for me, and I look for any discrepancy (transactions
that haven't cleared, or transactions on the card I don't have recorded,
etc). When I am satisfied that all is well, I tell GnuCash that the
reconciliation is complete, and it marks the reconciled transactions as
"r". In the future, when you go to reconcile the next month, it won't
consider the ones already reconciled.

GnuCash also shows multiple balances for an account: a current balance, a
future balance, a reconciled balance, and a cleared balance. At any given
time, the "cleared balance" should match match what the online banking says
it should be, the "reconciled balance" matches your last statement balance.


On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:59 PM Mark Hedges 
wrote:

> Thanks all.
>
> I don't understand the difference between "cleared" and "reconciled"
> in Gnucash context.  Someone mentioned that one changes R from "n" to
> "c" when they see the charge in their bank statement or online
> banking.  How is that different in terms of information flow from
> using the reconciliation feature to do exactly the same thing?  I
> still end up having to cherry-pick individual transactions to make the
> balance work out.
>
> Regarding the Num field, I understand that this would be a check
> number if anyone paid for much with checks anymore.  For checking visa
> or ACH transactions, am I supposed to record the transaction number
> from the bank online balance sheet or statement?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mark
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Re: info about action field in double-line view

2018-01-29 Thread David Carlson
The letter c is applied to transaction splits by GnuCash either when the
user imports a transaction from a QIF, OFX or QFX file that was probably
downloaded over the Internet from a banking website or manually by clicking
in the appropriate box.  This is interpreted to mean that the information
in that split line of that account register of the data file matches the
information from the bank.  Arguably, it would probably be better to have
separate indicators for these two distinctly different actions.

That is not the same as the R applied by GnuCash from a Reconciliation,
where the user is verifying that his data records match those from whatever
independent source he chooses.  Historically, the independent source was
the checkbook register, but now it is probably a combination of memory and
whatever receipts the user has kept.  The R indicator cannot be manually
applied to a transaction split line.

There is no requirement that the user even consider using these
indicators.  Many users, myself included, never reconcile income or
expenses or any other accounts except bank and investment accounts.

As to your cherry-picking to make the balance work out, are you referring
to making a reconciliation balance work out?  That would be little
different than comparing a manually recorded checkbook register to a bank
statement.  You still need to 'remember' that credit card or debit card
purchase that you forgot to record or to notice that there was an
unauthorized charge to your account.  This is your opportunity to discover
fraudulent use of your account.

To your last point, the Num field can contain whatever information that you
choose to put there, period.

David C

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:56 PM, Mark Hedges 
wrote:

> Thanks all.
>
> I don't understand the difference between "cleared" and "reconciled"
> in Gnucash context.  Someone mentioned that one changes R from "n" to
> "c" when they see the charge in their bank statement or online
> banking.  How is that different in terms of information flow from
> using the reconciliation feature to do exactly the same thing?  I
> still end up having to cherry-pick individual transactions to make the
> balance work out.
>
> Regarding the Num field, I understand that this would be a check
> number if anyone paid for much with checks anymore.  For checking visa
> or ACH transactions, am I supposed to record the transaction number
> from the bank online balance sheet or statement?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mark
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Re: info about action field in double-line view

2018-01-29 Thread ihaveanotherchance
An item that is cleared means that your bank has cashed it. An item that is 
reconciled means that at the end of the month the balance of the bank and your 
checking account match for all item that have cleared. That is the difference 
between the two. I hope my explanation is simple enough.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Mark Hedges  wrote:
> 
> Thanks all.
> 
> I don't understand the difference between "cleared" and "reconciled"
> in Gnucash context.  Someone mentioned that one changes R from "n" to
> "c" when they see the charge in their bank statement or online
> banking.  How is that different in terms of information flow from
> using the reconciliation feature to do exactly the same thing?  I
> still end up having to cherry-pick individual transactions to make the
> balance work out.
> 
> Regarding the Num field, I understand that this would be a check
> number if anyone paid for much with checks anymore.  For checking visa
> or ACH transactions, am I supposed to record the transaction number
> from the bank online balance sheet or statement?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mark
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Re: info about action field in double-line view

2018-01-29 Thread Mark Hedges
Thanks all.

I don't understand the difference between "cleared" and "reconciled"
in Gnucash context.  Someone mentioned that one changes R from "n" to
"c" when they see the charge in their bank statement or online
banking.  How is that different in terms of information flow from
using the reconciliation feature to do exactly the same thing?  I
still end up having to cherry-pick individual transactions to make the
balance work out.

Regarding the Num field, I understand that this would be a check
number if anyone paid for much with checks anymore.  For checking visa
or ACH transactions, am I supposed to record the transaction number
from the bank online balance sheet or statement?

Thanks.

Mark
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Re: In which account are Invoice customer balances posted

2018-01-29 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Roger,

You are correct.

Ideally, that overpayment should instead be held as a liability in the form of 
‘customer deposits’ but I suppose that would have complicated the code.

A reverse balanced AR is technically a liability, not an asset.

When I encounter such a situation, I set a scheduled transaction for 30 days 
ahead. When that transaction fires for my approval, I check to see if the 
Customer Report still shows the credit balance. If so, I use the SX to move the 
funds from AR to Liability:Customer Deposits which I’ll use as a payment method 
on their next invoice when that happens.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jan 29, 2018, at 2:50 PM, rmom...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> When a customer pays more than the amount due on an invoice that balance
> appears in the receive payment window the next time there is an invoice to
> pay. In which account is that balance stored? I suspect it is kept in
> receivables. Is that correct?
> 
> 
> 
> Trying to figure out a way to keep track of what portion of the balance in
> the checking and cash accounts are advance payments. 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Roger
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Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]

2018-01-29 Thread Mike or Penny Novack

On 1/28/2018 8:11 PM, Matt Graham wrote:
 When you look at what liabilities really are, Adrien and I 
concluded on this thread that this situation (segmenting money for 
future) is really using a separate asset account. After all - creating 
a liability INCREASES your cash available. ...
Yes, the problem precisely, we aren't assigning the same meaning to 
"available" and "liability"


But your example of what you would like to see:

Template transactions (I'd probably call them "Triggerred transactions", but it 
doesn'tmatter) sound awesome. As someone else highlighted, there are implementation 
difficulties to consider, but I dont think that it would be too onerous.

In terms of spending from another account but recording against a sub-account, 
its easy:
Dr Exp whatever account
Cr Cash I pay for something awesome
Dr Parent account the amount I paid
Cr sub-account the amount I paid

SPECIAL CASE of a GENERAL requirement. The special case might be easy to 
implement BUT in general the amounts are NOT going to be the same.

This is actually a fairly common situation for me, say one of the organizations 
SELLS a tee shirt (fundraising, but tee shirts might also be being given away 
to volunteers).
Db   Cash
Cr   Sales
Db   Cost of goods sold
Cr   Tee shirt inventory
<< the shirts might be being sold for $20 but cost the organization $7 >>

Or, and though this is common with our restricted funds (not exactly matching) I will give 
an example precisely for your situation. You socked away into this reserve $100/mo toward 
the annual renewal of your car insurance based on your ESTIMATE of what that annual bill 
will be. But when the bill arrives it is for $1150 or $1250. In both cases you pay the bill 
and release the restriction, yes? << in one case, you had more in the fund than 
needed but it still can be released to general purposes, in the other you used all of the 
fund AND had to add some general funds >>

Michael D Novack


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In which account are Invoice customer balances posted

2018-01-29 Thread rmomxtx
When a customer pays more than the amount due on an invoice that balance
appears in the receive payment window the next time there is an invoice to
pay. In which account is that balance stored? I suspect it is kept in
receivables. Is that correct?

 

Trying to figure out a way to keep track of what portion of the balance in
the checking and cash accounts are advance payments. 

 

Thanks,

Roger

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Re: Does anyone successfully use GNU Android App. If not get it off the main web site.

2018-01-29 Thread Liz
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 19:48:54 +
jeffrey black  wrote:

> All I do is export the app data to a qif file and use the usb port to 
> transfer it to my desktop.  Never had a problem with it. I have never 
> tried exporting as xml.
> 
> Keep in mind the android app is an entirely separate product,
> developed by a different group.

I had a working version, then a non-exporting version. I went back to
scraps of paper. On the new phone the version I have seems to be able
to export again. It's 2.2.0

However, it won't connect to my nextcloud server, so I have to do some
odd things to get the data to my computer. Paper remains easier.

Liz
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Re: File Format : XML v MySQL / postgres / sqllite

2018-01-29 Thread cicko
Hi, David,

Whether PyCash is for an average user really depends on what you consider
the average user to be. It is a Python library and, if you don't expect an
average user to know how to write Python code then no - it is not for an
average user.
What it offers, though, is a pure Python interface to a GnuCash book, which
needs to be stored in SQL format. This makes it cross-platform and takes the
compilation of custom GnuCash binaries out of the loop (definitely not for
an average user). Until Python bindings are complete and available on all
platforms, it is a wonderful alternative way to read your data and generate
any sort of report or action (I like to see the upcoming scheduled
transactions without starting GnuCash and eventually trigger some action).
In addition, it allows writing data, too, but one has to be well aware that
this is raw access to data and excludes any GnuCash business logic and
validations with the checks and balances that guarantee the consistency of
the records. It is a 3rd party component from the GnuCash point of view and
does not have any endorsement or support by GnuCash. Writing data for some
simple cases, or when you know exactly what you are doing (by checking the
GnuCash source, for example) is fine. I.e. I have a price importer for
Vanguard Australia retail funds and exchange rates. Somehow I find it easier
to implement the custom logic in Python than install another platform and
the system for downloading prices, which for some reason I also had issues
setting up.
Once you know what PieCash does, and check the great documentation with
examples, you can decide if it would help you with what you are trying to
achieve.
Cheers 



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