Re: [GNC] New User Needs Set-Up Help

[DaveC49]

Jack,
the tutorial and cocepts guide can be found  here
  .
There is also the reference manual  here
  .
If you are not already familiar with double entry accounting the wikipedia
pages on it are also a reasonable starting point.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10

[DaveC49]

David

It is not really all that difficult to build a version from scratch if you
are on Linux. I'm on Linux Mint and the distro package version is often
behind the current stable. 

There are a few little twists  with setting up googletest and the move from
Autotools configure to CMake for the build. There are a lot of references to
those on the Gnucash-Dev list in some of my posts and others along with John
and Geert's responses. The wiki page on building with Ubuntu
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building#Ubuntu_16.04_LTS_.28Xenial_Xerus.29
and the Wiki page on CMake https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/CMake ( here Cmake
is described as experimental but it is now the preferred build route.

I am going to try and review the ubuntu build page in the light of my
experience building v3.0 over the last week so that some of the issues I
encountered are addressed if the wiki maintainers agree agree. 

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] Is it safe to update?

[Les]

Hi Michael:

I am impressed with Snap, which seems to be a very elegant way to
install apps.  I too hate to mess up my systems and waste a lot of time.


On 04/18/2018 06:48 PM, Michael via gnucash-user wrote:
> Thanks Les, I also used snap to put 2.6.21 on a test machine, also
> Linux Mint, and it seems to be fine.  My first use of snap and took a
> while to find the executable.  Maybe  I'll try it for a while.  I was
> able to build 3.0 on the same machine, but there seem to be so many
> problem reports, mostly non-linux, but I hate to mess up my data or
> waste a lot of time redoing stuff.  Mike
>
>
> On 04/18/2018 03:28 PM, Les wrote:
>> I upgraded 2 of my Linux Mint systems to 2.6.21 via Snap yesterday
>> without apparent issues.  This is not a recommendation, just a reply.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>> On 04/18/2018 11:18 AM, Michael via gnucash-user wrote:
>>> I have the same question wrt Linux.  How about 2.6.21?  Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/18/2018 08:45 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
 I'm running version 2.6.19 on a Windows 10 PC. I've seen several
 emails
 regarding crashes, freezes, errors, bugs,etc coming from upgrading to
 version 3. So is it safe? Should I wait? I really don't want to mess
 up my
 weekly finance management process.
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Re: [GNC] Version 3.0 does not record a scheduled transaction properly on Windows 10

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 4/18/2018 8:56 PM, David Reiser wrote:
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2018, at 5:46 PM, Keith N. McKenna  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a scheduled transaction that fires on the third Wednesday of the
>> month to record my Social Security disbursement. The transaction is set
>> to create automatically.  Today when I opened GnuCash it informed me
>> that the transaction was created yet when I look in the Checking Account
>> the deposit is not recorded. When I check the Income Account the other
>> half of the transaction is recorded properly. I do not see this listed
>> as a known problem in the Release Announcement for 3.0. Should this be
>> submitted as a bug? GnuCash version is:Version: 3.0.
>> Build ID: git 3.0+ (2018-04-01)
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith McKenna
>>
>>
> 
> Try doing something to force the checking account register to refresh. 
> (create a new transaction, for example)
> 
> I think a better description of your problem is that the scheduled 
> transaction processing doesn’t force a refresh of any open registers. Any 
> action that does cause a display update will likely reveal the ‘missing' 
> transaction.
> 
> There is a bug entered about it. It might be gtk3 specific, as I haven’t 
> noticed it prior to gnucash 3.0.
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> 
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Thank you for the tip. Once I entered a manual transaction the checking
account refreshed properly.

Regards
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Re: [GNC] Version 3.0 does not record a scheduled transaction properly on Windows 10

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 4/18/2018 8:49 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Keith N. McKenna  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a scheduled transaction that fires on the third Wednesday of the
>> month to record my Social Security disbursement. The transaction is set
>> to create automatically.  Today when I opened GnuCash it informed me
>> that the transaction was created yet when I look in the Checking Account
>> the deposit is not recorded. When I check the Income Account the other
>> half of the transaction is recorded properly. I do not see this listed
>> as a known problem in the Release Announcement for 3.0. Should this be
>> submitted as a bug? GnuCash version is:Version: 3.0.
>> Build ID: git 3.0+ (2018-04-01)
> 
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794584 
> 
> It was in the “Known Problems” list, though with a transposition error in the 
> bug number (794854 instead of 794584). I’ve fixed the transposition on the 
> GnuCash website and the Github release notes.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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My apologies. I obviously missed it in my original perusal of the
Announcement.

Regards
Keith



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Re: [GNC] Version 3.0 does not record a scheduled transaction properly on Windows 10

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 4/18/2018 7:01 PM, David Carlson wrote:
> First, I am puzzled by header on your message because it does not show
> Gnucash-user@gnucash.org as an addressee but it seems to have been
> forwarded to me through the maillist so I suppose everyone has gotten a
> copy.
> 
> Second, while you say that you only saw the new transaction in the income
> account, you did not say whether it had the correct date , whether there
> was a transfer account visible there, and whether it was the asset account
> that you expected it to be.  This could be an important clue to whatever is
> causing this apparent anomaly.
> 
> David C
> 
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Keith N. McKenna > wrote:
> 
>> I have a scheduled transaction that fires on the third Wednesday of the
>> month to record my Social Security disbursement. The transaction is set
>> to create automatically.  Today when I opened GnuCash it informed me
>> that the transaction was created yet when I look in the Checking Account
>> the deposit is not recorded. When I check the Income Account the other
>> half of the transaction is recorded properly. I do not see this listed
>> as a known problem in the Release Announcement for 3.0. Should this be
>> submitted as a bug? GnuCash version is:Version: 3.0.
>> Build ID: git 3.0+ (2018-04-01)
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith McKenna
>>
>>
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I was also confused about the to: address for my original post, but it
seems for whatever reason SeaMonkey wants to change the address from the
list address to what you see in the header.

I re-checked the income account and it does correctly record the date
and the account Assets:Current Assets:Checking Account

Regards
Keith




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Re: [GNC] Downloading Mac Intel Version 3 gives me 2.6.19

[Glen Byram (Gmail)]

Hi John,

Thanks for the verification. As I guessed, probably something I did.

I have been using Gnucash for a couple of years. I always update to latest 
version in exactly the same way. Open the disk image file, copy the 2 
applications to my Applications folder, overwriting them when prompted. I have 
no idea why it didn’t work last time. Even did the copy twice to make sure.

Anyway, I copied the app from the 3.01 dmg file to the desktop and opened it 
from there instead. It worked fine and was indeed 3.01. So, I moved it from the 
desktop to the Application folder (overwriting existing) and all is OK.

Thanks,

Glen Byram.

 

From: John Ralls 
Date: Thursday, 19 April 2018 at 01:07
To: Glen Byram 
Cc: Gnucash-User 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Downloading Mac Intel Version 3 gives me 2.6.19

 

Please remember to copy the list on all replies.

 

The archive of my earlier reply is
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2018-April/076526.html

 

Regards,

John Ralls

 



On Apr 18, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Glen Byram (Gmail)  wrote:

 

Hi John,
I have looked through the many list messages I have received from GNC, both in 
my active mailboxes and my trash/spam folders.
The only ones I can see from yourself to me are your comments that I have 
double posted - once to each of the two posts I did.
I cannot see the actual answer you posted to my question, even though I see 
several other replies by yourself to other list posts.
Could you confirm the answer you posted to my question, please?
Many thanks,
Glen

---

Apologies. New to this and posted with the wrong email address. Re-posted with 
the one I registered with.

On 18/04/2018, 14:49, "gnucash-user on behalf of John Ralls" 
 wrote:





On Apr 17, 2018, at 3:20 AM, Glen Byram via gnucash-user 
 wrote:

Hi All,

Probably just something I am doing but as per the subject, I download 
Gnucash-Intel-3.0-1.dmg but when I install it the Gnucash App says it is 
version 2.6.19.

Am I doing something wrong?


   You posted the same question, and I answered, yesterday.

   Regards,
   John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Version 3.0 does not record a scheduled transaction properly on Windows 10

[David Reiser]

> On Apr 18, 2018, at 5:46 PM, Keith N. McKenna  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a scheduled transaction that fires on the third Wednesday of the
> month to record my Social Security disbursement. The transaction is set
> to create automatically.  Today when I opened GnuCash it informed me
> that the transaction was created yet when I look in the Checking Account
> the deposit is not recorded. When I check the Income Account the other
> half of the transaction is recorded properly. I do not see this listed
> as a known problem in the Release Announcement for 3.0. Should this be
> submitted as a bug? GnuCash version is:Version: 3.0.
> Build ID: git 3.0+ (2018-04-01)
> 
> Regards
> Keith McKenna
> 
> 

Try doing something to force the checking account register to refresh. (create 
a new transaction, for example)

I think a better description of your problem is that the scheduled transaction 
processing doesn’t force a refresh of any open registers. Any action that does 
cause a display update will likely reveal the ‘missing' transaction.

There is a bug entered about it. It might be gtk3 specific, as I haven’t 
noticed it prior to gnucash 3.0.
--
Dave Reiser
dbrei...@icloud.com





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Re: [GNC] Version 3.0 does not record a scheduled transaction properly on Windows 10

[John Ralls]

> On Apr 18, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Keith N. McKenna  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a scheduled transaction that fires on the third Wednesday of the
> month to record my Social Security disbursement. The transaction is set
> to create automatically.  Today when I opened GnuCash it informed me
> that the transaction was created yet when I look in the Checking Account
> the deposit is not recorded. When I check the Income Account the other
> half of the transaction is recorded properly. I do not see this listed
> as a known problem in the Release Announcement for 3.0. Should this be
> submitted as a bug? GnuCash version is:Version: 3.0.
> Build ID: git 3.0+ (2018-04-01)

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794584 

It was in the “Known Problems” list, though with a transposition error in the 
bug number (794854 instead of 794584). I’ve fixed the transposition on the 
GnuCash website and the Github release notes.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Downloading Mac Intel Version 3 gives me 2.6.19

[John Ralls]

Please remember to copy the list on all replies.

The archive of my earlier reply is
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2018-April/076526.html 


Regards,
John Ralls


> On Apr 18, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Glen Byram (Gmail)  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> I have looked through the many list messages I have received from GNC, both 
> in my active mailboxes and my trash/spam folders.
> The only ones I can see from yourself to me are your comments that I have 
> double posted - once to each of the two posts I did.
> I cannot see the actual answer you posted to my question, even though I see 
> several other replies by yourself to other list posts.
> Could you confirm the answer you posted to my question, please?
> Many thanks,
> Glen
> 
> ---
> 
> Apologies. New to this and posted with the wrong email address. Re-posted 
> with the one I registered with.
> 
> On 18/04/2018, 14:49, "gnucash-user on behalf of John Ralls" 
>  jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2018, at 3:20 AM, Glen Byram via gnucash-user 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Probably just something I am doing but as per the subject, I download 
>> Gnucash-Intel-3.0-1.dmg but when I install it the Gnucash App says it is 
>> version 2.6.19.
>> 
>> Am I doing something wrong?
> 
>You posted the same question, and I answered, yesterday.
> 
>Regards,
>John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Is it safe to update?

[Michael via gnucash-user]

Thanks Les, I also used snap to put 2.6.21 on a test machine, also Linux 
Mint, and it seems to be fine.  My first use of snap and took a while to 
find the executable.  Maybe  I'll try it for a while.  I was able to 
build 3.0 on the same machine, but there seem to be so many problem 
reports, mostly non-linux, but I hate to mess up my data or waste a lot 
of time redoing stuff.  Mike



On 04/18/2018 03:28 PM, Les wrote:

I upgraded 2 of my Linux Mint systems to 2.6.21 via Snap yesterday
without apparent issues.  This is not a recommendation, just a reply.

Regards,

Les


On 04/18/2018 11:18 AM, Michael via gnucash-user wrote:

I have the same question wrt Linux.  How about 2.6.21?  Mike


On 04/18/2018 08:45 AM, Jack Slater wrote:

I'm running version 2.6.19 on a Windows 10 PC. I've seen several emails
regarding crashes, freezes, errors, bugs,etc coming from upgrading to
version 3. So is it safe? Should I wait? I really don't want to mess
up my
weekly finance management process.
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Re: [GNC] Version 3.0 does not record a scheduled transaction properly on Windows 10

[David Carlson]

First, I am puzzled by header on your message because it does not show
Gnucash-user@gnucash.org as an addressee but it seems to have been
forwarded to me through the maillist so I suppose everyone has gotten a
copy.

Second, while you say that you only saw the new transaction in the income
account, you did not say whether it had the correct date , whether there
was a transfer account visible there, and whether it was the asset account
that you expected it to be.  This could be an important clue to whatever is
causing this apparent anomaly.

David C

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Keith N. McKenna  wrote:

> I have a scheduled transaction that fires on the third Wednesday of the
> month to record my Social Security disbursement. The transaction is set
> to create automatically.  Today when I opened GnuCash it informed me
> that the transaction was created yet when I look in the Checking Account
> the deposit is not recorded. When I check the Income Account the other
> half of the transaction is recorded properly. I do not see this listed
> as a known problem in the Release Announcement for 3.0. Should this be
> submitted as a bug? GnuCash version is:Version: 3.0.
> Build ID: git 3.0+ (2018-04-01)
>
> Regards
> Keith McKenna
>
>
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10

[DaveC49]

Consider running WIndows  in a VM rather than using Wine.

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Re: [GNC] Is it safe to update?

[DaveC49]

Hi ,
I upgraded from v2.6.19 to v3.0 recently. I had some initial build problems,
mainly to do with not having cleared out the previous versions libraries and
my own lack of understanding of CMake, but otherwise pretty painless. No
problems opening my datafiles and so far looks good. There have been changes
in the storage of the user data (different location but it automatically
creates the new user data for v3.0 and gives you the option of retaining the
previous data in place should you need to revert) but as far as I know none
in the main (XML) data file.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] Is it safe to update?

[Les]

I upgraded 2 of my Linux Mint systems to 2.6.21 via Snap yesterday
without apparent issues.  This is not a recommendation, just a reply. 

Regards,

Les


On 04/18/2018 11:18 AM, Michael via gnucash-user wrote:
> I have the same question wrt Linux.  How about 2.6.21?  Mike
>
>
> On 04/18/2018 08:45 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
>> I'm running version 2.6.19 on a Windows 10 PC. I've seen several emails
>> regarding crashes, freezes, errors, bugs,etc coming from upgrading to
>> version 3. So is it safe? Should I wait? I really don't want to mess
>> up my
>> weekly finance management process.
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Re: [GNC] What is earliest version of Ubuntu for which building GnuCASH 3.0 is possible?

[Steve Cohen]

Thanks, this worked.  And nothing special needed to be done with the icon.

On 04/18/2018 08:43 AM, Colin Law wrote:
> On 18 April 2018 at 14:29, Steve Cohen  wrote:
>>
>> OK, so I have been using GnuCash 3.0 on Ubuntu for a couple weeks now
>> and am broadly satisfied with it.  I built it and it works.  However,
>> there's one thing I cannot figure out.  Where is the "launcher" for
>> GNUCash and/or how do I build that.  As of now I have to navigate to the
>> bin subdirectory where GNUCash was installed and invoke it from there.
>> Is there a launcher and how do I tell Ubuntu about it?
> 
> If you install the version from the Ubuntu repository it will provide
> a file /usr/share/applications/gnucash.desktop.  Copy this file to
> ~/.local/share/applications and edit the Exec = line to point to your
> executable.  Also edit the Name = field as that is the name that
> appears when you hover over the launcher so you can make sure it is
> the right one.  Drag the desktop file to the launcher and you should
> be good to go.  You might have to make it executable, I am not sure.
> 
> In fact to save you installing it I have pasted it below.  The icon
> might not work if you have not installed gnucash normally, so you
> might need to find an icon somewhere.
> 
> Colin
> 
> [Desktop Entry]
> Type=Application
> MimeType=application/x-gnucash;
> Version=0.9.4
> Name=GnuCash
> Name[ar]=جنوكاش
> Name[as]=GnuCash
> Name[brx]=GnuCash
> Name[ca]=GnuCash
> Name[da]=GnuCash
> Name[de]=GnuCash
> Name[es]=GnuCash
> Name[fa]=گنو کش
> Name[fr]=GnuCash
> Name[hi]=GnuCash
> Name[it]=GnuCash
> Name[ja]=GnuCash
> Name[kn]=ಗ್ನುಕ್ಯಾಶ್
> Name[kok]=GnuCash
> Name[kok@latin]=GnuCash
> Name[ks]=GnuCash
> Name[lt]=GnuCash
> Name[lv]=GnuCash
> Name[mai]=ग्नूकैश
> Name[mni]=GnuCash
> Name[mni@bengali]=GnuCash
> Name[mr]=GnuCash
> Name[nl]=GnuCash
> Name[pt]=GnuCash
> Name[pt_BR]=GnuCash
> Name[ro]=GnuCash
> Name[ru]=GnuCash
> Name[sr]=Гнуов новчић
> Name[sv]=GnuCash
> Name[ta]=GnuCash
> Name[te]=Gnuక్యాష్
> Name[tr]=GnuCash
> Name[ur]=GnuCash
> Name[zh_TW]=GnuCash
> GenericName=Finance Management
> GenericName[ar]=الإدارة المالية
> GenericName[as]=বিত্ত পৰিচালনা
> GenericName[brx]=राङारि मेनेजमेन्ट
> GenericName[ca]=Gestor de finances
> GenericName[da]=Finanshåndtering
> GenericName[de]=Finanzmanagement
> GenericName[es]=Gestión Financiera
> GenericName[fa]=مدیریت امور مالی
> GenericName[fr]=Gestionnaire de finances
> GenericName[hi]=वित्त प्रबंधन
> GenericName[it]=Gestione finanziaria
> GenericName[ja]=財務管理
> GenericName[kn]=ಹಣಕಾಸು ನಿರ್ವಹಣೆ
> GenericName[kok]=अर्थिक व्यवस्थापन
> GenericName[kok@latin]=Arthik karbhar
> GenericName[ks]=फायनानॊस मनेजमेनट
> GenericName[lt]=Finansų valdymas
> GenericName[lv]=Finanšu pārvaldība
> GenericName[mai]=वित्त प्रबंधन
> GenericName[mni]=ꯁꯦꯜ-ꯊꯨꯝꯒꯤ ꯑꯁꯤꯟ-ꯑꯔꯥꯡ
> GenericName[mni@bengali]=ফাইনান্স মেনেজমেন্ত
> GenericName[mr]=वित्तपुरवठा व्यवस्थापन
> GenericName[nl]=Financieel management
> GenericName[pt]=Gestão financeira
> GenericName[pt_BR]=Gerenciador Financeiro
> GenericName[ro]=Administrarea finanţelor
> GenericName[ru]=Управление финансами
> GenericName[sr]=Управљање финансијама
> GenericName[ta]=நிதி மேலாண்மை
> GenericName[te]=ఆర్థిక నిర్వహణ
> GenericName[tr]=Finans Yönetimi
> GenericName[ur]=فنانس مینجمنٹ
> GenericName[zh_TW]=財務管理
> Comment=Manage your finances, accounts, and investments
> Comment[ar]=إدارة الشؤون المالية والحسابات والاستثمارات الخاص بك
> Comment[as]=আপোনাৰ বিত্তবোৰ, একাউন্টবোৰ, আৰু বিনিয়োগবোৰ পৰিচালনা কৰক
> Comment[bg]=Управлявайте финанси, сметки и инвестиции
> Comment[brx]=नोंथांनि रां, एकाउन्ट, आरो रांखामानियाव बाहायनायखौ सामलाय
> Comment[ca]=Gestioneu les vostres finances, comptes i inversions
> Comment[cs]=Spravovat vaše finance, účty a investice
> Comment[da]=Håndter dine finanser, konti og investeringer
> Comment[de]=Verwaltung der Finanzen von Privatanwendern und Kleinbetrieben.
> Comment[doi]=अपने फाइनांस, खातें ते निवेशें दा प्रबंधन करो
> Comment[en_GB]=Manage your finances, accounts, and investments
> Comment[es]=Gestione sus finanzas, cuentas e inversiones
> Comment[eu]=Kudeatu zure finantzak, kontuak eta inbertsioak
> Comment[fa]=امور مالی،حساب‌ها و سرمایه‌گذاری خود را مدیریت نمایید
> Comment[fr]=Gérez vos finances, vos comptes et vos investissements
> Comment[gu]=તમારા નાણાકીય, હિસાબો અને રોકાણનું સંચાલન કરો
> Comment[hi]=अपने वित्त, खातों और निवेशों का प्रबंधन करें
> Comment[hu]=Igazgassa pénzügyeit, számláit és befektetéseit
> Comment[it]=Gestisce le proprie finanze, i conti e gli investimenti
> Comment[ja]=財務、口座および投資を管理します
> Comment[kn]=ನಿಮ್ಮ ಹಣಕಾಸುಗಳನ್ನು, ಖಾತೆಗಳನ್ನು ಹಾಗು ಹೂಡಿಕೆಗಳನ್ನು ನಿರ್ವಹಿಸಿ
> Comment[ko]=재정, 계정 및 투자 관리
> Comment[kok]=तुमचे वित्त,खाती आणि गुंतवणूकींचे व्यवस्थापन करात
> Comment[kok@latin]=Tuji duddu, khatim ani guntovnnuk hatall
> Comment[ks]=पनॊन फायनानोस,एिकावुंट, तॊ ईनवीसटेमींट कॊरीव मनिज
> Comment[lt]=Valdykite savo finansus, sąskaitas ir investicijas
> Comment[lv]=Pārvaldiet savas finanses, kontus un investīcijas
> Comment[mai]=अपन वित्त, खात

Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3 unable to recognise SQLITE files on MAC OSX

[Adrien Monteleone]

Peter,

Check this thread and see if that fixes your issue: 
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2018-April/075937.html

Regards,
Adrien
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[GNC] Version 3.0 does not record a scheduled transaction properly on Windows 10

[Keith N. McKenna]

I have a scheduled transaction that fires on the third Wednesday of the
month to record my Social Security disbursement. The transaction is set
to create automatically.  Today when I opened GnuCash it informed me
that the transaction was created yet when I look in the Checking Account
the deposit is not recorded. When I check the Income Account the other
half of the transaction is recorded properly. I do not see this listed
as a known problem in the Release Announcement for 3.0. Should this be
submitted as a bug? GnuCash version is:Version: 3.0.
Build ID: git 3.0+ (2018-04-01)

Regards
Keith McKenna




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Re: [GNC] Closed Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10

[Colin Law]

On 18 April 2018 at 19:26, jeffrey black  wrote:
> ...
> Gotta get back to doing the books and finding a way to resurrect the
> boot strap on the Windoze drive so I can extract the last of the data
> from proprietary formats.

This might help
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair

Colin
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[GNC] Closed Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10

[jeffrey black]

On 04/18/2018 03:09 AM, Alen Siljak wrote:
> Jeffrey, perhaps a stupid question - why don't you install a native linux 
> version of GnuCash instead of running a Windows version under Wine?
> I use the same xml/sql book with linux and windows versions interchangably 
> and there are no issues (that I can see, at least!).
> Also, just for comparison, Windows version loads my book in ~30 seconds while 
> linux version loads the same book in 5. You may even benefit from an 
> increased performance.
>
> Versions 3.0 and 2.6.19 are not compatible. Version 2.6.21 should be, though. 
> However, can't confirm that 100% as I've moved to 3.0 and it worked ok for me 
> so far.
>
>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 9:40 AM
>> From: "jeffrey black" 
>> To: "Gnucash userlist" , gnucash-devel 
>> 
>> Subject: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10
>>
>> Before I do something incredibly stupid, like I did in hard crashing my
>> Windoze server because of a virus (IRS search miss-key, go figure), and
>> the boot partitions seem to be non-repairable even though all data and
>> programs are still on disk.  (And yes, I know stupid of me to not have a
>> current backup).  I still have legacy apps with data stored internally
>> that are not extractable without Windoze and without a reliable backup
>> per partition, per drive, I am not going to touch those drives until I
>> can find a way to recover everything.
>>
>> Can GnuCash 3.0 be run under Wine on Ubuntu Xenial?  3.0 has features
>> that I need.  It wants to install on only my Windoze dives which I will
>> not do until I have all of the data extracted. I have been unable to
>> build 3.0 from source code.  (yes I know Mint is a better choice but;
>> until I recover all of the data from Windoze I am not changing, Ubuntu
>> is up and running, Hallelujah, on it's own dedicated drive).
>>
>> Second Question:  My laptop still has Windoze 10 home, so can I install
>> GnuCash 3.0 on it and use it with Windoze GnuCash Version 2.6.19 data
>> files on the server files which are still accessible via Ubuntu file
>> share with Windoze 10?  Are the data files compatible?  I have 20+ years
>> of data that I definitely can not afford to loose (think divorce).
>>
> .
>
Thank you for all the suggestions.  I will wait as suggested for version 
3.1.

For now I will continue with native 2.6.17 under Ubuntu, now my server, 
and 2.6.19 on my Windoze laptop.  They seem to be pretty much compatible 
for transactions entry, allowing me to use the same data files from 
either system.

And for the record, all of the "Linux" variants run faster than the 
current version of Windoze 10!!

Gotta get back to doing the books and finding a way to resurrect the 
boot strap on the Windoze drive so I can extract the last of the data 
from proprietary formats.

Again, my thanks to all of you for the suggestions

--JEffrey Black M.B.A.


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Re: [GNC] Is it safe to update?

[N B Day]

On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 09:40 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2018, Michael via gnucash-user wrote:
> 
> > I have the same question wrt Linux. How about 2.6.21?
> 
> Mike,
> 
>I upgraded from 2.6.19 through 2.6.20 to 2.6.21 on Slackware-14.2.
> GnuCashs works flawlessly. Because I have no compelling immediate
> need for
> the enhancements in 3.x I'm in no rush to upgrade.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Rich
> 
I'm running openSUSE Tumbleweed, where we get the latest and greatest
willy-nilly unless we affirmatively "pin" applications. Aside from the
tab names oddity and the fact that the summary bar for mutual fund
accounts treats everything as being 1 dollar per share, I've found no
show-stoppers with version 3.

Of course, being out here on the bleeding edge, I have an elaborate
backup scheme, paper records, and a selection of other distros (even
the two expensive OSs that shall not be named) on this and other
computers to fall back on if things blow up.  

So far, no problems.  I like the new look, and things seem a bit faster
too.

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Re: [GNC] Is it safe to update?

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 18 Apr 2018, Michael via gnucash-user wrote:


I have the same question wrt Linux. How about 2.6.21?


Mike,

  I upgraded from 2.6.19 through 2.6.20 to 2.6.21 on Slackware-14.2.
GnuCashs works flawlessly. Because I have no compelling immediate need for
the enhancements in 3.x I'm in no rush to upgrade.

HTH,

Rich
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Re: [GNC] Is it safe to update?

[Fross, Michael]

I'm on Windows and have decided to wait a few months so that some of the
bugs can get worked out.  I did compile v3 on Linux and didn't have any
issues with using it on a copy of my main datafile, but for "production" I
don't think it hurts to wait a bit.  There are some really interesting
features in v3 I'd like to play with (and I will on my Linux VM) but I'm
getting more patience in my old age

Michael

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Michael via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I have the same question wrt Linux.  How about 2.6.21?  Mike
>
>
>
> On 04/18/2018 08:45 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
>
>> I'm running version 2.6.19 on a Windows 10 PC. I've seen several emails
>> regarding crashes, freezes, errors, bugs,etc coming from upgrading to
>> version 3. So is it safe? Should I wait? I really don't want to mess up my
>> weekly finance management process.
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Re: [GNC] New User Needs Set-Up Help

[Fross, Michael]

Hello Jack,

Please remember to reply to all or at least include the GNUCash-User list
in your responses.

GNC is just like most applications.  There is a program.  There are program
settings.  And there is the data file.  No different that a word
processor.  I suppose one difference is that when you startup GNC, it
automatically loads the last data file you were working on.  This is
fantastic.

As David mentions, if you want to start a brand new empty data file, just
choose File | New File and create one.  It's really that easy.  If you use
your OS to delete the old file, then it can't "auto-open" in the tool and
you'll have to create a new one.  Just make sure you know where you've
placed it.  It should be in it's own folder so the backups that occur
continually don't clutter up other folders.

If you actually want to remove GNC from your system, just remove it like
you would remove other programs.  However the setting and datafile will
remain and I don't think that will buy you anything.

Michael

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:36 AM, Jack Stewart  wrote:

> Thanks,
> I really want to get rid of GNUCash and start all over from scratch. Can't
> figure out how to do it.
> Jack
>
> On 4/17/18, Fross, Michael said ……
>
>
> If you are trying to get rid of Liability, Assets, etc, than I suggest you
>> do not.  Take a look at the getting started guide.  It is very well
>> written, easy to read, and really helped me out.  You want to ensure you
>> get everything setup well as everything will build on top of that.  You
>> can
>> change later, but it's often a very manual process.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:17 PM, David Carlson <
>> david.carlson@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Jack,
>>> Sorry to hear that you are having issues with Gnucash.  Right now is a
>>>
>> bad
>>
>>> time for the developers because they have just made a major upgrade to
>>>
>> the
>>
>>> program and the roll-out is not going smoothly.
>>>
>>> However, I think that your issue is not related to that.  When you
>>>
>> started
>>
>>> Gnucash the first time you started setting up some accounts and then
>>> decided to start over.  you can just close GnuCash and start over.  If
>>> Gnucash asks for a file name, close the program without saving.  If
>>>
>> you
>>
>>> have already saved it, click File > New and you are starting a new
>>>
>> file.
>>
>>> There is no need to to delete the software.
>>>
>>> Be sure to save the file in some sub-folder of your documents where
>>>
>> you can
>>
>>> find it eaasily and not be distracted by all the backup files that
>>>
>> Gnucash
>>
>>> will be making as time goes by.  You can start over as many times as
>>>
>> you
>>
>>> want, but once you get close, then fine tune by adding and deleting
>>> accounts until you like your results.
>>>
>>>
>>> David C
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Jack Stewart  wrote:
>>>
>>> > I am a new GNUCash user and am having a lot of trouble getting
>>>
>> started
>>
>>> > with it. I set up certain attributes and then am unable to modify or
>>> delete
>>> > them. I don't have perfect foresight and sometimes need to delete or
>>> modify
>>> > a prior set-up attribute.
>>> >
>>> > One of the options in setting up a new file is to choose a category,
>>>
>> I
>>
>>> > have chosen "A Simple Checkbook" which, in turn, pre-selects some
>>>
>> asset,
>>
>>> > liability, equity, expense, and income accounts. These appear in a
>>>
>> window
>>
>>> > which contains the checking account name. It is that window name
>>>
>> which I
>>
>>> > want to edit.
>>> >
>>> > Alternatively, how can I totally delete GNUCash from my Mac and
>>>
>> start
>>
>>> over?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks  ~Jack
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Re: [GNC] Is it safe to update?

[Michael via gnucash-user]

I have the same question wrt Linux.  How about 2.6.21?  Mike


On 04/18/2018 08:45 AM, Jack Slater wrote:

I'm running version 2.6.19 on a Windows 10 PC. I've seen several emails
regarding crashes, freezes, errors, bugs,etc coming from upgrading to
version 3. So is it safe? Should I wait? I really don't want to mess up my
weekly finance management process.
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[GNC] Is it safe to update?

[Jack Slater]

I'm running version 2.6.19 on a Windows 10 PC. I've seen several emails
regarding crashes, freezes, errors, bugs,etc coming from upgrading to
version 3. So is it safe? Should I wait? I really don't want to mess up my
weekly finance management process.
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Re: [GNC] What is earliest version of Ubuntu for which building GnuCASH 3.0 is possible?

[Geert Janssens]

Op woensdag 18 april 2018 15:29:01 CEST schreef Steve Cohen:
> OK, so I have been using GnuCash 3.0 on Ubuntu for a couple weeks now
> and am broadly satisfied with it.  I built it and it works.  However,
> there's one thing I cannot figure out.  Where is the "launcher" for
> GNUCash and/or how do I build that.  As of now I have to navigate to the
> bin subdirectory where GNUCash was installed and invoke it from there.
> Is there a launcher and how do I tell Ubuntu about it?
> 
That's more general linux knowledge than gnucash knowledge...

There are two parts to this:
* for the command line, your shell will search for executables in a list of 
directories called "the path". This list is specified in environment variable 
PATH.
You can do 'echo $PATH' (without the quotes) to learn in which directories the 
shell will search.
If you installed gnucash anywhere but in the system default /usr/bin, chances 
are the system won't find it. The solution is to adjust the search path for 
executables. You can search the internet for plenty of examples how you can do 
that.

* For the graphical environment on the other hand, the "launchers" you mention 
are typically *.desktop files. These files hold some meta information on a 
program and also how to execute it. Gnucash is no exception: the build creates 
one such file in /share/applications/gnucash.desktop.
However like the shell, your graphical environment will only look in standard 
directories and it's unlikely that is where you installed gnucash if you built 
it yourself. To remedy this, you can copy the desktop file to
$HOME/.local/share/applications, where your graphical desktop should pick it 
up.

There is a second issue with this desktop file though: it will try to run 
'gnucash' without a full path specification (like '/bin/
gnucash'). This means your system will again fall back to part one: use the 
PATH environment variable to locate a gnucash executable. This can be fixed by 
either adjusting the "Exec" line in the desktop file to contain a full path or 
by setting the PATH variable. Which one to take is a bit personal preference 
and other system conditions (are there multiple versions of gnucash on your 
system for example).

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] .log files with sqlite backend

[David T. via gnucash-user]

Alen,
I think you have identified a potentially significant issue with log files and 
sql data files.  Specifically, with xml files, full snapshots are saved 
periodically, and log files are paired with these snapshots to enable a user to 
"replay" actions to recover a previous state. 
It is unclear what log file playback would do to an sql data file, since the 
only saved file is constantly updated. I worry that it would result in a 
corrupted file, since I imagine it would in essence reapply a subset of 
transactions onto the file. 
I'd be happy to be told I am wrong, but if this would be the result, perhaps it 
would be advisable for gnucash not to create log files for any sql back end. 
David

 
 
  On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:14, cicko wrote:   While I 
was using xml backend in the past couple of weeks, I finally realized
how backup files and .log files work. I really like the scheme as, before
that, I had a script that creates backups of sqlite book in the same manner
(and deletes the .log files).

Now, back to using sqlite book, I notice the difference: the .log files get
created but not the backup files. Is this intentional or accidental?

I guess it is still possible to replay the .log files that contain the
missing transactions (in case of an error). Has anyone actually tried this
with an sqlite book?

It's just that the automatic backup files are not generated. For this I have
a Python script that does exactly the same as xml backup - it appends the
date/time to the file name and copies it to the backup folder, and keeps the
last n copies. I should probably redo that to work based on time and keep
last n days, for example.

Just looking to get some background info to confirm the best recovery
procedure in case of a failure.
Cheers



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Re: [GNC] .log files with sqlite backend

[cicko]

John Ralls-2 wrote
> With a database, including a SQLite3 file, the storage is under the
> control of the database engine. In order for GnuCash to make a backup it
> would need to explicitly copy the SQLite3 file; even that wouldn’t
> necessarily be possible for a MySQL or Postgresql database.

Right, thanks, I assumed something along those lines. How does that affect
replaying the .log files, though? Is this something that could be safely
done or is it something to be avoided with sql backends?
I'm asking because -better safe than sorry. And it is still easier to ask
than to try it out and analyse the consequences. Perhaps somebody walked
down that road before. :)



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Re: [GNC] Help

[Lesley Burton]

Hi
Sorry it’s taken a while to come back to you but I have just followed the link 
and installed this and I still have the same error message. Sorry 
Lesley



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Tuesday, 17 April 2018, 20:01 +0100 from frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com  
:
>Hi,
>
>Am 17.04.2018 um 16:05 schrieb Derek Atkins:
>> Geert,
>> 
>> Geert Janssens < geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be > writes:
>> 
 Both have fixes and a nightly build,
  
 https://wiki.gnucash.org/builds/win32/maint/gnucash-3.0-2018-04-16-git-3.0-
  >
 75-g87f94abc8+.setup.exe
 < 
 https://wiki.gnucash.org/builds/win32/maint/gnucash-3.0-2018-04-16-git-3.0
 -75-g87f94abc8+.setup.exe>, is available for Windows users to test.

>>>
>>> The nightly build mentioned above won't run due to a missing dll. I have 
>>> just 
>>> now created a new installer to fix that:
>>>  
>>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/builds/win32/maint/gnucash-3.0-2018-04-17-git-3.0-75-g87f94abc8+.setup.exe
>>> Please test with that one and report back.
>> 
>> Should we be using "wiki.gnucash.org" URLs for the nightlies, instead of 
>> "code"?
>
>https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Wiki_Conventions#Linking_GnuCash_Servers
>
>>> Geert
>> 
>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
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>> 
>> -derek
>
>~Frank
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Re: [GNC] What is earliest version of Ubuntu for which building GnuCASH 3.0 is possible?

[cicko]

stevec...@gmail.com wrote
> Where is the "launcher" for GNUCash and/or how do I build that.  As of now
> I have to navigate to the
> bin subdirectory where GNUCash was installed and invoke it from there.
> Is there a launcher and how do I tell Ubuntu about it?

>From what I understand, this might depend on the choice of GUI (KDE, Gnome,
Mint/Cinnamon, etc.).
Generally, you'd add a .desktop into ~/.local/share/applications.

Here's one article that expands on that:
https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-desktop-file-linux/



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Re: [GNC] Downloading Mac Intel Version 3 gives me 2.6.19

[John Ralls]

> On Apr 17, 2018, at 3:20 AM, Glen Byram via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Probably just something I am doing but as per the subject, I download 
> Gnucash-Intel-3.0-1.dmg but when I install it the Gnucash App says it is 
> version 2.6.19.
> 
> Am I doing something wrong?

You posted the same question, and I answered, yesterday.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] .log files with sqlite backend

[John Ralls]

> On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:12 AM, cicko  wrote:
> 
> While I was using xml backend in the past couple of weeks, I finally realized
> how backup files and .log files work. I really like the scheme as, before
> that, I had a script that creates backups of sqlite book in the same manner
> (and deletes the .log files).
> 
> Now, back to using sqlite book, I notice the difference: the .log files get
> created but not the backup files. Is this intentional or accidental?
> 
> I guess it is still possible to replay the .log files that contain the
> missing transactions (in case of an error). Has anyone actually tried this
> with an sqlite book?
> 
> It's just that the automatic backup files are not generated. For this I have
> a Python script that does exactly the same as xml backup - it appends the
> date/time to the file name and copies it to the backup folder, and keeps the
> last n copies. I should probably redo that to work based on time and keep
> last n days, for example.
> 
> Just looking to get some background info to confirm the best recovery
> procedure in case of a failure.
> Cheers
It’s a side effect of the difference between a database and an XML file. The 
XML file is read in at the beginning of the session and a new one is written 
back out every n minutes and at the end of the session. The previous file is 
renamed at the first save, becoming the backup.

With a database, including a SQLite3 file, the storage is under the control of 
the database engine. In order for GnuCash to make a backup it would need to 
explicitly copy the SQLite3 file; even that wouldn’t necessarily be possible 
for a MySQL or Postgresql database.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] What is earliest version of Ubuntu for which building GnuCASH 3.0 is possible?

[Colin Law]

On 18 April 2018 at 14:29, Steve Cohen  wrote:
>
> OK, so I have been using GnuCash 3.0 on Ubuntu for a couple weeks now
> and am broadly satisfied with it.  I built it and it works.  However,
> there's one thing I cannot figure out.  Where is the "launcher" for
> GNUCash and/or how do I build that.  As of now I have to navigate to the
> bin subdirectory where GNUCash was installed and invoke it from there.
> Is there a launcher and how do I tell Ubuntu about it?

If you install the version from the Ubuntu repository it will provide
a file /usr/share/applications/gnucash.desktop.  Copy this file to
~/.local/share/applications and edit the Exec = line to point to your
executable.  Also edit the Name = field as that is the name that
appears when you hover over the launcher so you can make sure it is
the right one.  Drag the desktop file to the launcher and you should
be good to go.  You might have to make it executable, I am not sure.

In fact to save you installing it I have pasted it below.  The icon
might not work if you have not installed gnucash normally, so you
might need to find an icon somewhere.

Colin

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Re: [GNC] What is earliest version of Ubuntu for which building GnuCASH 3.0 is possible?

[Steve Cohen]

OK, so I have been using GnuCash 3.0 on Ubuntu for a couple weeks now
and am broadly satisfied with it.  I built it and it works.  However,
there's one thing I cannot figure out.  Where is the "launcher" for
GNUCash and/or how do I build that.  As of now I have to navigate to the
bin subdirectory where GNUCash was installed and invoke it from there.
Is there a launcher and how do I tell Ubuntu about it?

On 04/08/2018 07:02 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> It's tied to unstable because that's been the primary working branch for the 
> last 6 months or so.
> The testing period branches have been beaten to death here and in devel over 
> the last several months,
> if you're really interested search the list archives or read 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git#Branches.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
>> On Apr 8, 2018, at 3:58 PM, Steve Cohen  wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I suppose.  I would have EXPECTED a release to be built from the
>> master branch.  I don't understand why
>>
>>  git clone https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash.git
>>
>> is tied to the unstable branch - but if it is, then it makes sense that
>> you would want to reverse merge it down. Why do you do it that way?
>>
>>
>> On 04/08/2018 01:31 PM, John Ralls wrote:
>>> Oops, *my* bad. I released 3.0 from master instead of unstable. I’ve just 
>>> done a reverse merge to fix it, and merged back so everything's in sync. 
>>> Good thing you caught it before I shuffled the branches.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>>
>>>
 On Apr 8, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Steve Cohen  wrote:

 My bad, I forgot what I did!  I didn't build from the tarball.  I built
 what I got from doing



 which somehow brought down the unstable branch.

 Now I actually built from the tarball and got 3.0.  Sorry for this noob
 error.


 On 04/08/2018 10:53 AM, Colin Law wrote:
> How are you running it?  Perhaps it is running the old version.  Run
> it by explicilty specifing the the full path the the executable from
> the terminal, something like
> /usr/local/bin/gnucash
> or wherever you installed it.  If still no joy check the timestamp on
> the file you are running and make sure it matches when you built it.
>
> Colin
>
> On 8 April 2018 at 15:07, Steve Cohen  wrote:
>> On 04/07/2018 09:50 PM, John Ralls wrote:
>>>
>>>
 On Apr 7, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Steve Cohen >>> > wrote:

 On 04/07/2018 09:38 AM, John Ralls wrote:
>
>
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 8:06 PM, Steve Cohen > 
>> > wrote:
>>
>> On 04/06/2018 02:39 PM, John Ralls wrote:
>>>
>>>
 On Apr 6, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Steve Cohen >>> 
 > wrote:

 On 04/06/2018 02:22 PM, John Ralls wrote:
>
>
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Steve Cohen > 
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I'm newly retired and have some time ...
>> I have Ubuntu 14.0.4. I'm running GnuCash 2.6.1.
>>
>> But if I'm willing to build, is there any inherent reason why
>> building
>> 3.0 will fail in this environment?  If not, I'll be willing to
>> make the
>> effort.  I'd be glad for any information about bumps in the road 
>> I
>> should know about in advance.
>>
>
> We're using 14.04 for one of the CI builds, so you shouldn't have
> any trouble. You might want to examine
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/unstable/util/ci/ubuntu-14.04-docker
> to copy the packages you need to install.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
 Thank you John.  I'm noticing that the README file (from within
 the 3.0
 tarball) is for version 2.6.x.  Are more recent build instructions
 available elsewhere?
>>>
>>> The best current build instructions are cmake/README_CMAKE.txt.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks!
>> After a few hours of false starts, I managed to build GnuCash 3.0 on 
>> my
>> Ubuntu 14.0.4 system.
>>
>> I had to use this command line:
>>
>> cmake -D ALLOW_OLD_GETTEXT=ON -D GTEST_ROOT=~/src/gtest/googletest -D
>> GMOCK_ROOT=~/src/gtest/googlemock ~/src/gnucash
>>
>> The ALLOW_OLD_GETTEXT was necessary because I only had an earlier
>> version of gettext and could find no way to install the required 
>> version
>> with

Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10

[cicko]

David Carlson-4 wrote
> Since it is not yet available in any repo, that is why he wants to try
> wine.  It seems that he
> is not in a position to wait for packaged versions of 3.1.

Ah, yes, thanks. As on the new installation of OpenSuse Tumbleweed, GnuCash
v3 was installed by default, I thought it was a done deal.

Well, considering there is a working RPM package of v3 available somewhere
on OpenSuse repositories, would something like this work:
https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-rpm-packages-on-ubuntu/ ?




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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10

[David Carlson]

I believe Jeffrey stated in his first post that release 3.0 has a feature
that is missing from 2.6.xx that is important to him.  Since it is not yet
available in any repo, that is why he wants to try wine.  It seems that he
is not in a position to wait for packaged versions of 3.1.

Does anyone have useful suggestions for a user in that position?

David C


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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10

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2018-04-18T03:07:50-0700 cicko wrote:
> Hm, this thread now seems to be all over the place. Probably due to the tags
> in the subject? It seems that email clients do some magic there.

Indeed, they have involved the developers list and the help list, this
is why we see duplicated messages.

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Re: [GNC] Version 3

[nor via gnucash-user]

Jon,I had reported similar situation earlier and reverted to ver 2.6.19.
https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/maint/gnucash-3.0-2018-04-17-git-3.0-75-g87f94abc8+.setup.exe.
Is this a maintenance or stable release. Imp. for me as I use GNC for
business.nor



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[GNC] Downloading Mac Intel Version 3 gives me 2.6.19

[Glen Byram via gnucash-user]

Hi All,

Probably just something I am doing but as per the subject, I download 
Gnucash-Intel-3.0-1.dmg but when I install it the Gnucash App says it is 
version 2.6.19.

Am I doing something wrong?

Cheers

 

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[GNC] GnuCash 3.0-1 on Mac OS X 10.13.4: can't parse user file

[Anthony Dardis]

First, many many thanks for this great program! Have been using it for 
years.


3.0-1 installed on my machine, opened, looks beautiful, can navigate 
around in my file. Saved the file, closed program. On reopening, GnuCash 
reported that it couldn't parse user file. I tried opening my file using 
2.6.19 and got the same (or a very similar) message. So I restored the 
file from a backup and have gone back to 2.6.19.


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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10

[cicko]

Hm, this thread now seems to be all over the place. Probably due to the tags
in the subject? It seems that email clients do some magic there.



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Re: [GNC] Help

[Geert Janssens]

Op woensdag 18 april 2018 10:40:01 CEST schreef Peter Jackson:
> Please tell me where to report bugs on the nightlies.
> regards
> Peter
> 
You can report bugs in bugzilla.
Refer to http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Bugzilla to learn how to use bugzilla
The "nightlies" in this case would be version "git-maint".

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] Help

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Please tell me where to report bugs on the nightlies.
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On 17 April 2018 at 20:01, Frank H. Ellenberger <
frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am 17.04.2018 um 16:05 schrieb Derek Atkins:
> > Geert,
> >
> > Geert Janssens  writes:
> >
> >>> Both have fixes and a nightly build,
> >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/builds/win32/maint/gnucash-3.0-
> 2018-04-16-git-3.0->
> >>> 75-g87f94abc8+.setup.exe
> >>>  2018-04-16-git-3.0
> >>> -75-g87f94abc8+.setup.exe>, is available for Windows users to test.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The nightly build mentioned above won't run due to a missing dll. I
> have just
> >> now created a new installer to fix that:
> >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/builds/win32/maint/gnucash-3.0-
> 2018-04-17-git-3.0-75-g87f94abc8+.setup.exe
> >> Please test with that one and report back.
> >
> > Should we be using "wiki.gnucash.org" URLs for the nightlies, instead
> of "code"?
>
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Wiki_Conventions#Linking_GnuCash_Servers
>
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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10

[Alen Siljak]

Jeffrey, perhaps a stupid question - why don't you install a native linux 
version of GnuCash instead of running a Windows version under Wine?
I use the same xml/sql book with linux and windows versions interchangably and 
there are no issues (that I can see, at least!). 
Also, just for comparison, Windows version loads my book in ~30 seconds while 
linux version loads the same book in 5. You may even benefit from an increased 
performance.

Versions 3.0 and 2.6.19 are not compatible. Version 2.6.21 should be, though. 
However, can't confirm that 100% as I've moved to 3.0 and it worked ok for me 
so far.


> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 9:40 AM
> From: "jeffrey black" 
> To: "Gnucash userlist" , gnucash-devel 
> 
> Subject: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10
>
> Before I do something incredibly stupid, like I did in hard crashing my 
> Windoze server because of a virus (IRS search miss-key, go figure), and 
> the boot partitions seem to be non-repairable even though all data and 
> programs are still on disk.  (And yes, I know stupid of me to not have a 
> current backup).  I still have legacy apps with data stored internally 
> that are not extractable without Windoze and without a reliable backup 
> per partition, per drive, I am not going to touch those drives until I 
> can find a way to recover everything.
> 
> Can GnuCash 3.0 be run under Wine on Ubuntu Xenial?  3.0 has features 
> that I need.  It wants to install on only my Windoze dives which I will 
> not do until I have all of the data extracted. I have been unable to 
> build 3.0 from source code.  (yes I know Mint is a better choice but; 
> until I recover all of the data from Windoze I am not changing, Ubuntu 
> is up and running, Hallelujah, on it's own dedicated drive).
> 
> Second Question:  My laptop still has Windoze 10 home, so can I install 
> GnuCash 3.0 on it and use it with Windoze GnuCash Version 2.6.19 data 
> files on the server files which are still accessible via Ubuntu file 
> share with Windoze 10?  Are the data files compatible?  I have 20+ years 
> of data that I definitely can not afford to loose (think divorce).
>
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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10

[Colin Law]

Gnucash runs better on a Linux system than it does on Windows.  My
understanding is that it is Linux s/w adapted to run on Windows.  So if you
want to run Ubuntu ( which is an excellent idea) then run GC natively on
that, not under wine.  You will be able to install gnucash from the
software manager, it will install a 2.x version not 3.x as that has not yet
worked its way into the repositories.

For recovering your data boot of a live Ubuntu DVD/USB stick and then you
will be able to copy the files off the disc onto another stick or network
drive.

Colin

On 18 April 2018 at 08:40, jeffrey black  wrote:

> Before I do something incredibly stupid, like I did in hard crashing my
> Windoze server because of a virus (IRS search miss-key, go figure), and
> the boot partitions seem to be non-repairable even though all data and
> programs are still on disk.  (And yes, I know stupid of me to not have a
> current backup).  I still have legacy apps with data stored internally
> that are not extractable without Windoze and without a reliable backup
> per partition, per drive, I am not going to touch those drives until I
> can find a way to recover everything.
>
> Can GnuCash 3.0 be run under Wine on Ubuntu Xenial?  3.0 has features
> that I need.  It wants to install on only my Windoze dives which I will
> not do until I have all of the data extracted. I have been unable to
> build 3.0 from source code.  (yes I know Mint is a better choice but;
> until I recover all of the data from Windoze I am not changing, Ubuntu
> is up and running, Hallelujah, on it's own dedicated drive).
>
> Second Question:  My laptop still has Windoze 10 home, so can I install
> GnuCash 3.0 on it and use it with Windoze GnuCash Version 2.6.19 data
> files on the server files which are still accessible via Ubuntu file
> share with Windoze 10?  Are the data files compatible?  I have 20+ years
> of data that I definitely can not afford to loose (think divorce).
>
> --JEffrey Black M.B.A.
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Re: [GNC] .log files with sqlite backend

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On 18 April 2018 at 08:12, cicko  wrote:

> While I was using xml backend in the past couple of weeks, I finally
> realized
> how backup files and .log files work. I really like the scheme as, before
> that, I had a script that creates backups of sqlite book in the same manner
> (and deletes the .log files).
>
> Now, back to using sqlite book, I notice the difference: the .log files get
> created but not the backup files. Is this intentional or accidental?
>
> I guess it is still possible to replay the .log files that contain the
> missing transactions (in case of an error). Has anyone actually tried this
> with an sqlite book?
>
> It's just that the automatic backup files are not generated. For this I
> have
> a Python script that does exactly the same as xml backup - it appends the
> date/time to the file name and copies it to the backup folder, and keeps
> the
> last n copies. I should probably redo that to work based on time and keep
> last n days, for example.
>
> Just looking to get some background info to confirm the best recovery
> procedure in case of a failure.
>

I suggest using the same backup procedure that you use to backup the rest
of your documents so that you always have recent backups of the file.  The
accounts file is no different from any other important documents and data
you have on your system.

I use backintime [1] but there are many other options.

Colin

[1] https://backintime.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
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[GNC] Transaction Engine (Making Tax Digital)

[Richard Crozier via gnucash-user]

Dear HMRC,

When the transaction engine protocol for implementation of Making Tax 
Digital is released, will you be releasing a free software library which 
will represent a reference implementation of the protocol?


I assume you must of course have such a library for internal testing. 
Releasing such a library will be essential to allow free software 
communities to develop tools to implement the new Making Tax Digital 
paradigm. This would also demonstrate your commitment to not adding 
significant additional costs to small businesses through the 
implementation of Making Tax Digital.


What licence will the reference library be released under, and in what 
programming language will it be implemented?


I have CC'd the gnucash mailing list for their reference (gnucash is one 
of the leading free and open source accounting packages).


Best regards,

Richard Crozier
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10

[Geert Janssens]

Op woensdag 18 april 2018 09:40:11 CEST schreef jeffrey black:
> Before I do something incredibly stupid, like I did in hard crashing my 
> Windoze server because of a virus (IRS search miss-key, go figure), and 
> the boot partitions seem to be non-repairable even though all data and 
> programs are still on disk.  (And yes, I know stupid of me to not have a 
> current backup).  I still have legacy apps with data stored internally 
> that are not extractable without Windoze and without a reliable backup 
> per partition, per drive, I am not going to touch those drives until I 
> can find a way to recover everything.
> 
> Can GnuCash 3.0 be run under Wine on Ubuntu Xenial?  3.0 has features 
> that I need.  It wants to install on only my Windoze dives which I will 
> not do until I have all of the data extracted. I have been unable to 
> build 3.0 from source code.  (yes I know Mint is a better choice but; 
> until I recover all of the data from Windoze I am not changing, Ubuntu 
> is up and running, Hallelujah, on it's own dedicated drive).
> 
> Second Question:  My laptop still has Windoze 10 home, so can I install 
> GnuCash 3.0 on it and use it with Windoze GnuCash Version 2.6.19 data 
> files on the server files which are still accessible via Ubuntu file 
> share with Windoze 10?  Are the data files compatible?  I have 20+ years 
> of data that I definitely can not afford to loose (think divorce).
> 
> --JEffrey Black M.B.A.

If your data is so crucial to you, I would suggest to wait for gnucash 3.1. 
There are several issues with 3.0, particularly on Windows but also on other 
platforms that are currently being ironed out.

As to whether gnucash 3.0 will work under wine, I don't know. I'm sure it 
would be challenging: gnucash is a native linux application which is ported to 
Windows. So most issues are expected on Windows anyway. If you then run that 
gnucash edition on a system the only *emulates* Windows, you're adding yet 
another layer of untested conditions. Not something I would advice if your 
your marriage depends on your gnucash data.

Geert


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[GNC] GnuCash 3.0 wine versus Windoze 10

[jeffrey black]

Before I do something incredibly stupid, like I did in hard crashing my 
Windoze server because of a virus (IRS search miss-key, go figure), and 
the boot partitions seem to be non-repairable even though all data and 
programs are still on disk.  (And yes, I know stupid of me to not have a 
current backup).  I still have legacy apps with data stored internally 
that are not extractable without Windoze and without a reliable backup 
per partition, per drive, I am not going to touch those drives until I 
can find a way to recover everything.

Can GnuCash 3.0 be run under Wine on Ubuntu Xenial?  3.0 has features 
that I need.  It wants to install on only my Windoze dives which I will 
not do until I have all of the data extracted. I have been unable to 
build 3.0 from source code.  (yes I know Mint is a better choice but; 
until I recover all of the data from Windoze I am not changing, Ubuntu 
is up and running, Hallelujah, on it's own dedicated drive).

Second Question:  My laptop still has Windoze 10 home, so can I install 
GnuCash 3.0 on it and use it with Windoze GnuCash Version 2.6.19 data 
files on the server files which are still accessible via Ubuntu file 
share with Windoze 10?  Are the data files compatible?  I have 20+ years 
of data that I definitely can not afford to loose (think divorce).

--JEffrey Black M.B.A.



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[GNC] .log files with sqlite backend

[cicko]

While I was using xml backend in the past couple of weeks, I finally realized
how backup files and .log files work. I really like the scheme as, before
that, I had a script that creates backups of sqlite book in the same manner
(and deletes the .log files).

Now, back to using sqlite book, I notice the difference: the .log files get
created but not the backup files. Is this intentional or accidental?

I guess it is still possible to replay the .log files that contain the
missing transactions (in case of an error). Has anyone actually tried this
with an sqlite book?

It's just that the automatic backup files are not generated. For this I have
a Python script that does exactly the same as xml backup - it appends the
date/time to the file name and copies it to the backup folder, and keeps the
last n copies. I should probably redo that to work based on time and keep
last n days, for example.

Just looking to get some background info to confirm the best recovery
procedure in case of a failure.
Cheers



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