Re: [GNC] GnuCash V3.5 Not Used By My GnuCash Database
I don’t know if you even had 3.4 installed unless you knew for a fact you were once running it. (If that is the case, you might have earlier removed 2.6.19) It looks like you downloaded the 3.5 source. (you mentioned it contained directories and files) You can build from that source download using the wiki instructions, or use the pre-built deb packages as Colin suggests. If you choose not to build from source, you can safely delete that gnucash-3.5 directory. Do not delete the files ending in .gnucash. The first one `MyNamed.gnucash` is your main data file. The last one `MyNamed.gnucash.20190304124553.gnucash` is a backup file. The other two are log files as their file extension suggests. Keeping the logs and the backup is optional. Just don’t delete the main data file. I would still run the dpkg -l command to make sure there are no other versions on your system before installing 3.5: sudo dpkg -l | grep gnucash (no response and a return to the command prompt means nothing else concerning gnucash is installed) You can also perform a: which gnucash to see if the system thinks an executable with that name is located anywhere, but I don’t expect it will find anything. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 18, 2019, at 3:42 PM, Colin Law wrote: > > On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 21:27, Lawrence Joy wrote: >> >> I did 'sudo apt remove gnucash' and got: >> >> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer >> required: list of packages >> Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. >> The following packages will be REMOVED: gnucash [note that it does not state >> what version will be removed] >> >> I answered Y about do you want to continue. It looks like V3.4 was removed. >> I also did 'sudo apt autoremove'. >> I then pushed on the Super Key and G. >> No GnuCash icon shows up as it was doing before. >> I type completely "gnucash" and get a list of files with: >> MyNamed.gnucash >> MyNamed.gnucash.20190304113239.log >> MyNamed.gnucash.20190304124553.log >> MyNamed.gnucash.20190304124553.gnucash >> gnucash-3.5 >> >> I clicked on gnucash-3.5 thinking that would launch the program, but no, >> there are some directories and files. I backed out of that. >> >> I then clicked on MyNamed.gnucash and a screen shows up with "Could not >> display "MyNamed.gnucash". There is no application installed for "GnuCash >> financial data" files. Do you want to search for an application to open this >> file? No or Yes."--Okay, what do I do??? > > Well that suggests you didn't install any other version, or at least > the system doesn't know where it is. If you want to install 3.5 on > Ubuntu 18.04 the easiest way is to use the package built by Stephen > Butler. To quote from his instructions: > Download files files posted on Google Drive. > https://drive.google.com/open?id=11gjnSIw9E8B8kOJ01DHQuEA83xidbw8E > > Contains: > gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb > gnucash-common_3.5_all.deb > python3-gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb > > Download to your box. Remove the old version of GnuCash, cd to your > download folder (or where you have the above 3 files) and then: > > sudo apt install ./*_3.5_*.deb > > Colin > > >> --Larry >> >> On Thursday, April 18, 2019, 12:04:39 PM EDT, Colin Law >> wrote: >> >> To remove the version that you installed using apt install then do >> sudo apt remove gnucash >> Do that first and see what state you are in then. Before doing >> anything make sure your backup of your accounts file is up to date, >> just in case, though installing/removing should not affect it. >> >> Colin ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GnuCash V3.5 Not Used By My GnuCash Database
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 21:27, Lawrence Joy wrote: > > I did 'sudo apt remove gnucash' and got: > > The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer > required: list of packages > Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. > The following packages will be REMOVED: gnucash [note that it does not state > what version will be removed] > > I answered Y about do you want to continue. It looks like V3.4 was removed. I > also did 'sudo apt autoremove'. > I then pushed on the Super Key and G. > No GnuCash icon shows up as it was doing before. > I type completely "gnucash" and get a list of files with: > MyNamed.gnucash > MyNamed.gnucash.20190304113239.log > MyNamed.gnucash.20190304124553.log > MyNamed.gnucash.20190304124553.gnucash > gnucash-3.5 > > I clicked on gnucash-3.5 thinking that would launch the program, but no, > there are some directories and files. I backed out of that. > > I then clicked on MyNamed.gnucash and a screen shows up with "Could not > display "MyNamed.gnucash". There is no application installed for "GnuCash > financial data" files. Do you want to search for an application to open this > file? No or Yes."--Okay, what do I do??? Well that suggests you didn't install any other version, or at least the system doesn't know where it is. If you want to install 3.5 on Ubuntu 18.04 the easiest way is to use the package built by Stephen Butler. To quote from his instructions: Download files files posted on Google Drive. https://drive.google.com/open?id=11gjnSIw9E8B8kOJ01DHQuEA83xidbw8E Contains: gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb gnucash-common_3.5_all.deb python3-gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb Download to your box. Remove the old version of GnuCash, cd to your download folder (or where you have the above 3 files) and then: sudo apt install ./*_3.5_*.deb Colin > --Larry > > On Thursday, April 18, 2019, 12:04:39 PM EDT, Colin Law > wrote: > > To remove the version that you installed using apt install then do > sudo apt remove gnucash > Do that first and see what state you are in then. Before doing > anything make sure your backup of your accounts file is up to date, > just in case, though installing/removing should not affect it. > > Colin ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GnuCash V3.5 Not Used By My GnuCash Database
I did 'sudo apt remove gnucash' and got: - The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: list of packages - Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. - The following packages will be REMOVED: gnucash [note that it does not state what version will be removed] I answered Y about do you want to continue. It looks like V3.4 was removed. I also did 'sudo apt autoremove'.I then pushed on the Super Key and G.No GnuCash icon shows up as it was doing before. I type completely "gnucash" and get a list of files with:MyNamed.gnucashMyNamed.gnucash.20190304113239.logMyNamed.gnucash.20190304124553.logMyNamed.gnucash.20190304124553.gnucashgnucash-3.5 I clicked on gnucash-3.5 thinking that would launch the program, but no, there are some directories and files. I backed out of that. I then clicked on MyNamed.gnucash and a screen shows up with "Could not display "MyNamed.gnucash". There is no application installed for "GnuCash financial data" files. Do you want to search for an application to open this file? No or Yes."--Okay, what do I do???--Larry On Thursday, April 18, 2019, 12:04:39 PM EDT, Colin Law wrote: To remove the version that you installed using apt install then do sudo apt remove gnucash Do that first and see what state you are in then. Before doing anything make sure your backup of your accounts file is up to date, just in case, though installing/removing should not affect it. Colin ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GnuCash V3.5 Not Used By My GnuCash Database
#1, Before doing anything else, follow Colin’s suggestion to: `sudo apt remove gnucash` which will uninstall 2.6.19 (this is the version which is in the 18.04 repo) It may even remove *all* installed versions, but that’s okay because then you can install just the one you want. I’ll answer your other questions in-line... > On Apr 18, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Lawrence Joy wrote: > > Adrien, > Originally I did a 'sudo app download' of GnuCash, which loaded V2.?.? to my > Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS OS somewhere. Under that version of GnuCash I started a > book or database of accounts. I saw an announcement that V3.4 was available > and I like to be up to date, so I went to the GnuCash website and did a > download of V3.4 for Ubuntu. When it was done downloading the message was > that V3.4 was in a different place and that it copied all of my files over to > the new place because when I press the super key and press G, for GnuCash, > the GnuCash icon comes up, which I click on, and my book of accounts show up > and the Help screen says its V3.4. The original V2.?.? still exits in the old > place. I would have to go searching to find V2.?.? and delete those files, > which I don't know how to do, but I don't want to delete any dependencies > that V3.4 would use and not have V3.4 working. > > I saw that V3.5 was available and I like to keep up with the latest, so I > went to the Help tab in my V3.4 that has a link to the GnuCash website and > did a download, clicking on "Via distribution". I am not a programmer so I > did not go the "Source" route. V3.5 downloaded, again I don't know where and > would have to do a search to find it. I press the super key and press G, for > GnuCash, the GnuCash icon comes up, I click on it, and my book of accounts > show up with the Help screen stating it still is V3.4. So I guess that V3.5 > is loaded in what you call side-by-side. How come my book of accounts didn't > get transferred over like when I downloaded V3.4? > > The questions I have are: > 1. How to move my book of accounts from V3.4 to V3.5? You don’t need to ‘move’ it to a different version. The file is what it is. Which version you choose to use to open the file is separate from the file itself. (note, that some file format differences exist with version < 2.6.19 and later versions, including the 3.x series) If you open version 3.4 and then open your file, you’ll be using version 3.4. If you open version 3.5 and then open your file, you’ll be using version 3.5. If you double-click your file, I’d think you *should* then be using the newest version 3.5, but that isn’t certain. Whatever Help > About says is what you end up with in that case. If you don’t want 3.4 any more, then remove it. How to do that, depends on how you installed it. > 2. Then how do I delete V2.?.?? See above > 3. And then how do I delete V3.4? I’m still not sure how you installed this. The link on the website ‘by distribution’ takes you to a page that advises to use Software Center in Ubuntu. But doing that would get you the same 2.6.x from the 18.04 repos. I don’t see how you would have obtained 3.4. (note, 19.04, just out today, contains 3.4) There is no link on that page to download a pre-built package for Ubuntu. There is a link to download the source tarball though. Had you downloaded it, you’d have had to uncompress it and then follow the ‘build from source’ instructions and you’d remember doing that for sure. How you managed to install 3.4 will determine how to remove it. > 4. Or maybe I should forget V3.5, if so what command to delete it? And on that note, I can’t figure where you downloaded that from either. There is no pre-built 3.5 for Linux linked at gnucash.org. There is such a .deb file built by a user that has been posted to this list. Is that where you downloaded it from? (there was also a 3.4 available from that same user) > 5. And then what command to delete V2.?.?? See #2 After removing GnuCash 2.6.19, please run the following command and report back the result: sudo dpkg -l | grep gnucash This will list any and all packages containing the name `gnucash` that are installed on your system along with their version info. From there, we can proceed with trimming out what you don’t want and getting you using version 3.5. Regards, Adrien ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Recording dividend payoffs
John, That was a punch line, and a very good one. I respect your experience and the time you have/are spending with GnuCash support (and perhaps even development). But just because I am new to accounting and you've spend a long time in accounting along with managing the company that pay dividends, the logic behind my suggestion doesn't crumble. First, when you close your books and credit Retained Earnings account, you can always debit the dividends from this account. Things are fine here. I never disputed this. Except that this way requires you to close the books. I wanted things to work fine even when books aren't close (for very good reasons), and hence that suggestion. From this thread alone, I realize 3 or 4 people pay off dividends using Expense:Dividends without closing the books. I also understand that the formal way to pay dividends and record them is to close the books and debit Retained Earnings. Never disputed it but I'll dispute this, >The claim that it violates the formal rules fails because it's only required >when one doesn't follow the formal rules and close Income and Expense to >Retained Earnings: In for a penny, in for a pound. Yes, I am still a beginner. But as far as I know and have read, it is a widely accepted practice among accountants and corporations to use a temporary account (like Equity:Dividend Declared) to record dividends. So then, why not use Expense:Dividends as a temporary account instead? Again, a variety of reasons. Literally misleading, technically incorrect, confusing for an auditor, confusing for a new accountant, legally incorrect etc. And that's the reason, I put forward that suggestion (which was subject to discussions and replacement for better solutions) so that those who don't want to close the books can record dividend pay offs the more right way than Expense:Dividends. Another reason - GnuCash doesn't require people to close books. And hence as a product, if there is a legitimate or widely accepted way to carry out functions (that require to close the books) without closing the books, GnuCash should have it. And by no means is Expense:Dividends a legitimate way for reasons stated earlier. The options are there on the table. You guys decide. As I mentioned earlier, lot of people use Expense:Dividends without closing the books. All the more reasons to incorporate something to make such users do tasks the more right way. As for me I would close the books to credit Retained Earnings than use Expense:Dividends. Anyway, if I had misconducted myself, I'd like to apologize. Thanks again. - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:42 PM, John Ralls wrote: > Justin, > > It's very simple: I've many years of experience with both accounting and > GnuCash. I've run a company which paid dividends and used GnuCash to account > for it. It works fine the way it is, it just doesn't work the way you want to > use it. Too bad. > > Then there's your admission to Maf: > > > On Apr 16, 2019, at 5:37 AM, Justin Mathew via gnucash-devel > > gnucash-de...@gnucash.org wrote: > > Yes, I read this suggestion in gnu tutorial and concepts manual few hours > > ago infact. I am new to accounting to be honest. Just learning it with a > > fictitious company and transactions. > > Regards, > John Ralls > > > On Apr 17, 2019, at 12:55 AM, Justin Mathew via gnucash-devel > > gnucash-de...@gnucash.org wrote: > > And John, > > > > > Justin, > > > No, just you. This is real simple: GnuCash provides two ways to account > > > for reporting retained earnings, including dividends. I'm not asking you > > > to do anything, I'm telling you how GnuCash works. Either you use one of > > > those two ways or you use a different accounting program. > > > > We've been over this. And I am telling you again that how GnuCash handles > > dividends isn't the right way. Recording dividends as an expense is > > technically wrong. It doesn't decrease the equity. And dividends can be > > paid and recorded correctly without closing the books in today's age. > > I am just surprise how reluctant you are to acknowledge that there is an > > issue with the current system and to discuss a possible solution. You're > > impossible man! > > > > - > > > > Regards, > > Justin Mathew > > mjus...@protonmail.com ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GnuCash V3.5 Not Used By My GnuCash Database
To remove the version that you installed using apt install then do sudo apt remove gnucash Do that first and see what state you are in then. Before doing anything make sure your backup of your accounts file is up to date, just in case, though installing/removing should not affect it. Colin On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 16:30, Lawrence Joy via gnucash-user wrote: > > Adrien,Originally I did a 'sudo app download' of GnuCash, which loaded > V2.?.? to my Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS OS somewhere. Under that version of GnuCash I > started a book or database of accounts. I saw an announcement that V3.4 was > available and I like to be up to date, so I went to the GnuCash website and > did a download of V3.4 for Ubuntu. When it was done downloading the message > was that V3.4 was in a different place and that it copied all of my files > over to the new place because when I press the super key and press G, for > GnuCash, the GnuCash icon comes up, which I click on, and my book of accounts > show up and the Help screen says its V3.4. The original V2.?.? still exits in > the old place. I would have to go searching to find V2.?.? and delete those > files, which I don't know how to do, but I don't want to delete any > dependencies that V3.4 would use and not have V3.4 working. > I saw that V3.5 was available and I like to keep up with the latest, so I > went to the Help tab in my V3.4 that has a link to the GnuCash website and > did a download, clicking on "Via distribution". I am not a programmer so I > did not go the "Source" route. V3.5 downloaded, again I don't know where and > would have to do a search to find it. I press the super key and press G, for > GnuCash, the GnuCash icon comes up, I click on it, and my book of accounts > show up with the Help screen stating it still is V3.4. So I guess that V3.5 > is loaded in what you call side-by-side. How come my book of accounts didn't > get transferred over like when I downloaded V3.4? > The questions I have are:1. How to move my book of accounts from V3.4 to > V3.5?2. Then how do I delete V2.?.??3. And then how do I delete V3.4?4. Or > maybe I should forget V3.5, if so what command to delete it?5. And then what > command to delete V2.?.?? > I can use the terminal and know at least some of the terminal commands. > --Regards, Larry > > On Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 10:00:55 PM EDT, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > By chance did you manage to install them side-by-side? > > How did you install 3.5? (or 3.4 for that matter, as neither is in the 18.04 > repos) > > Did you try to intentionally launch 3.5 first, then use File > Open? > > I can’t see how in such a case, 3.4 would suddenly launch. (but > double-clicking the file in Nautilus *might* cause that) > > If the file association is wrong and you still have both versions installed > then just re-assign .gnucash file types to 3.5 to fix it. And/or remove 3.4. > (note, you might need to re-install 3.5 after removing 3.4 depending on the > install method as some important dependencies *might* get removed with it.) > > Regards, > Adrien > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GnuCash V3.5 Not Used By My GnuCash Database
Adrien,Originally I did a 'sudo app download' of GnuCash, which loaded V2.?.? to my Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS OS somewhere. Under that version of GnuCash I started a book or database of accounts. I saw an announcement that V3.4 was available and I like to be up to date, so I went to the GnuCash website and did a download of V3.4 for Ubuntu. When it was done downloading the message was that V3.4 was in a different place and that it copied all of my files over to the new place because when I press the super key and press G, for GnuCash, the GnuCash icon comes up, which I click on, and my book of accounts show up and the Help screen says its V3.4. The original V2.?.? still exits in the old place. I would have to go searching to find V2.?.? and delete those files, which I don't know how to do, but I don't want to delete any dependencies that V3.4 would use and not have V3.4 working. I saw that V3.5 was available and I like to keep up with the latest, so I went to the Help tab in my V3.4 that has a link to the GnuCash website and did a download, clicking on "Via distribution". I am not a programmer so I did not go the "Source" route. V3.5 downloaded, again I don't know where and would have to do a search to find it. I press the super key and press G, for GnuCash, the GnuCash icon comes up, I click on it, and my book of accounts show up with the Help screen stating it still is V3.4. So I guess that V3.5 is loaded in what you call side-by-side. How come my book of accounts didn't get transferred over like when I downloaded V3.4? The questions I have are:1. How to move my book of accounts from V3.4 to V3.5?2. Then how do I delete V2.?.??3. And then how do I delete V3.4?4. Or maybe I should forget V3.5, if so what command to delete it?5. And then what command to delete V2.?.?? I can use the terminal and know at least some of the terminal commands. --Regards, Larry On Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 10:00:55 PM EDT, Adrien Monteleone wrote: By chance did you manage to install them side-by-side? How did you install 3.5? (or 3.4 for that matter, as neither is in the 18.04 repos) Did you try to intentionally launch 3.5 first, then use File > Open? I can’t see how in such a case, 3.4 would suddenly launch. (but double-clicking the file in Nautilus *might* cause that) If the file association is wrong and you still have both versions installed then just re-assign .gnucash file types to 3.5 to fix it. And/or remove 3.4. (note, you might need to re-install 3.5 after removing 3.4 depending on the install method as some important dependencies *might* get removed with it.) Regards, Adrien ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Recording dividend payoffs
Justin, It's very simple: I've many years of experience with both accounting and GnuCash. I've run a company which paid dividends and used GnuCash to account for it. It works fine the way it is, it just doesn't work the way you want to use it. Too bad. Then there's your admission to Maf: > > On Apr 16, 2019, at 5:37 AM, Justin Mathew via gnucash-devel > wrote: > > Yes, I read this suggestion in gnu tutorial and concepts manual few hours ago > infact. I am new to accounting to be honest. Just learning it with a > fictitious company and transactions. > Regards, John Ralls > On Apr 17, 2019, at 12:55 AM, Justin Mathew via gnucash-devel > wrote: > > And John, > >> Justin, >> >> No, just you. This is real simple: GnuCash provides two ways to account for >> reporting retained earnings, including dividends. I'm not asking you to do >> anything, I'm telling you how GnuCash works. Either you use one of those two >> ways or you use a different accounting program. > > We've been over this. And I am telling you again that how GnuCash handles > dividends isn't the right way. Recording dividends as an expense is > technically wrong. It doesn't decrease the equity. And dividends can be paid > and recorded correctly without closing the books in today's age. > > I am just surprise how reluctant you are to acknowledge that there is an > issue with the current system and to discuss a possible solution. You're > impossible man! > > - > Regards, > Justin Mathew > mjus...@protonmail.com ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Column Width
Yes, it's GTK bug. I had my doubts. I could never install gtk+3.0 package as mentioned in the wiki. There were some dependency issues. Debian Stretch doesn't have them yet. Anyway, I can manage it for now as Lithium/Buster is just around the corner. - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:18 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: > Hmm. > > Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com writes: > > > GnuCash 3.5 complied from source into Bunsenlabs Helium (Debian Stretch). > > There was definitely some keyboard issues in 3.3, but it should have > been fixed since then. Unless, of course, there's a GTK bug and you're > hitting that. > > There's no reason you should not be able to type a slash in the date column. > > > Regards, > > Justin Mathew > > mjus...@protonmail.com > > -derek > > - > >Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 >de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com >Computer and Internet Security Consultant > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Logging into the forum
Thanks Derek. - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:24 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: > Hi, > > Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com writes: > > > Thanks Derek, > > Is there any reason why we do not have an official forum? Or is it > > that users are happier with mailing list? > > This is my first mailing list subscription, hence I may not be aware > > of those advantages it has over forums (if any). > > Many reasons... > -- 20+ years of history. > -- Monitoring a forum is MUCH harder, unless you use email > notifications, in which case, might as well START with email. > -- SPAM prevention is easier on a mailing list > > I could continue, but honestly, it's not worth my time.. Search the > history to find more discussions about this. > > -derek > > - > >Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 >de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com >Computer and Internet Security Consultant > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Column Width
Yes, almost all are covered in the documentation. Our documentation is really great. I am reading the concepts and tutorials now. Just wondering why / isn't working while entering dates in my gnucash! GnuCash 3.5 complied from source into Bunsenlabs Helium (Debian Stretch). - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:14 PM, D via gnucash-user wrote: > Which is again covered in the documentation at > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_txns.html#txns-register-oview > > On April 18, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Art Chimes arts.onl...@gmail.com wrote: > > Another date tip: You can increment/decrement your date using the plus > and minus keys. > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 12:29:11 +0100 > > From: Michael Hendry hendry.mich...@gmail.com > > To: Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com > > Cc: Derek Atkins de...@ihtfp.com, "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Column Width > > > > > On 17 Apr 2019, at 11:48, Justin Mathew via gnucash-user > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org wrote: > > > Is there any way to enter dates from keyboard? Eg, if you have to enter a > > > record for past dates, you have to choose the dates from the drop down > > > calendar. Any format that I can type to get the dates? > > > > Just type it, in the form DD/MM/YY > > If you type only DD then to the next field, it will assume the > > current month and year. > > If you type DD/MM and you?ll get the current year. > > Michael > > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Logging into the forum
Hi, Justin Mathew writes: > Thanks Derek, > > Is there any reason why we do not have an official forum? Or is it > that users are happier with mailing list? > > This is my first mailing list subscription, hence I may not be aware > of those advantages it has over forums (if any). Many reasons... -- 20+ years of history. -- Monitoring a forum is MUCH harder, unless you use email notifications, in which case, might as well START with email. -- SPAM prevention is easier on a mailing list I could continue, but honestly, it's not worth my time.. Search the history to find more discussions about this. -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Return of Capital
Interesting that GC is throwing that Trading split in at all. The transaction
balances without it. I’ll presume this brokerage account for the fund and the
cash are both in AUD also?
Does manually adding:
Dr.(buy) Trading:CURRENCY:AUD $500
Satisfy GC and avoid the pop-up?
The two Trading splits would be superfluous but they should then balance.
If you let GC balance it, what does it insert?
Is that ANZ Cash account something special or just a cash type asset in AUD?
(effectively no different than Assets:Cash?)
Regards,
Adrien
> On Apr 18, 2019, at 3:10 AM, cicko wrote:
>
> Hi! Thanks for the feedback. Let me try to answer both your and John's
> questions and perhaps a few details along the way.
>
>> Let's say there is $1000 in 100 shares in IPE account.
>
> 2000-01-01 * Bought IPE
> Assets:Investments:Broker:Shares:IPE100 IPE {10.00 USD} [2000-01-01]
> @ 10.00 USD
> Assets:Investments:Broker:Cash -1000.00 USD
>
>> The fund is shutting down and returning funds to the shareholders.
>
>> Now, I still have the same amount of shares (100) but they are only worth
>> ~$500, and I got $500 back in cash.
>
> 2019-04-01 * Return of capital
> Assets:Investments:Broker:Cash 500.00 USD
> Assets:Investments:Broker:Shares:IPE100 IPE { 5.00 USD} [2000-01-01]
> @ 5.00 USD
> Assets:Investments:Broker:Shares:IPE -100 IPE {10.00 USD} [2000-01-01]
> @ 5.00 USD
>
> Ref:
> - question on SE:
> https://money.stackexchange.com/questions/107906/how-to-enter-return-of-capital-in-ledger-cli
> - Australian Tax Office (ATO) ruling:
> https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/document?docid=%22CLR%2FCR201834%2FNAT%2FATO%2F1%22
>
> First note that the numbers are simplified for the sake of example. The real
> return of capital was 3.5 cents per share, as per ATO ruling. So, what
> happens above:
>
> - the first transaction shows that IPE was purchased at $10 a share.
> - some background: the fund is shutting down its operations and is returning
> the capital to the shareholders
> - the Return of Capital transactions does two things:
> - shows a return of $500 to the cash account (this is what happened in the
> real world)
> - shows a repricing of the original cost. One split shows a sale of all
> the shares at the original price ($10) and "purchase" of the same quantity
> at the new price of $5.
>
> These are supposedly correct as, in the end, I've got $500 back. The number
> of shares has not changed, I still have 100 shares in the fund. The actual
> value has decreased but mainly due to the drop in the market price. And,
> finally, I have the new base price for those 100 shares. It is no longer $10
> but $5.
> This last point is important for the potential future Capital Gains
> calculation.
> I would like to show this ideally in one transaction because it balances and
> represents what actually happens. Technically, it should be possible (and
> perhaps is but I don't know how to enter it correctly).
>
> To answer John's questions - IPE was an equity fund on ASX, now delisted
> (http://www.delisted.com.au/company/ipe-limited). They've returned all of
> their capital over a few years and shut down operations.
> So, technically I don't have to worry about potential capital gains but
> that's beyond the scope of the original question. :)
>
> When I try to create this second transaction in GnuCash, I'm stuck at the
> following - https://imgur.com/vihbSst
>
>
>
> The trading split is inserted automatically, due to the usage of Trading
> Accounts and that throws off the balance, I suspect, but I also may be
> wrong.
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Re: [GNC] Column Width
Hmm. Justin Mathew writes: > GnuCash 3.5 complied from source into Bunsenlabs Helium (Debian Stretch). There was definitely some keyboard issues in 3.3, but it should have been fixed since then. Unless, of course, there's a GTK bug and you're hitting that. There's no reason you should not be able to type a slash in the date column. > Regards, > Justin Mathew > mjus...@protonmail.com -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Column Width
Which is again covered in the documentation at https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_txns.html#txns-register-oview On April 18, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Art Chimes wrote: Another date tip: You can increment/decrement your date using the plus and minus keys. > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 12:29:11 +0100 > From: Michael Hendry > To: Justin Mathew > Cc: Derek Atkins , "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Column Width > > > On 17 Apr 2019, at 11:48, Justin Mathew via gnucash-user > > wrote: > > > > Is there any way to enter dates from keyboard? Eg, if you have to enter a > > record for past dates, you have to choose the dates from the drop down > > calendar. Any format that I can type to get the dates? > > Just type it, in the form DD/MM/YY > > If you type only DD then to the next field, it will assume the current > month and year. > > If you type DD/MM and you?ll get the current year. > > Michael ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions
On 18 April 2019 at 10:51, Justin Mathew said: > Can the OP or anyone update whether the portable version worked parallel > to the installed version? > While I haven't used a recent edition via PortableApps, I did try v3 that way when it first came out, and it worked exactly as expected - somewhat slow by comparison (with an installed copy of v2.whatever-it-was-at- the-time), but otherwise just fine. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to treat benefit payments from government?
Michael, Yep, I’m well aware. I just looked over my Mom’s filing before she mailed it off. Certainly, having to massage the raw number two or three times with various figures from multiple lines on several different schedules just to figure out if her SS payments were taxable I can attest you are correct, that my question isn’t always a simple one. But even an answer of ‘depends’ is an answer that you can take some action on. Though I don’t live in Canada, I’m still curious to see how that one should be handled. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 18, 2019, at 8:23 AM, Michael or Penny Novack > wrote: > > On 4/17/2019 6:16 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> Someone on the list from Canada (even better, a local CPA) should offer >> better advice, but the first question you probably want answered is, “Is >> this taxable next year?” >> >> That will likely influence how you record it now. >> >> Regards, >> Adrien > Adrian, it could be worse than that (in the general case). How about SS > pension payments here in the US? The question "is this taxable" cannot be > answered based upon the pension payment alone because it will depend on OTHER > income received. Thus while you could possibly "know" (barring unexpected > events) that none of it will be taxable (your estimate of other income is > below X) or that 85% of it will be taxable (your estimate of other income is > above Y) what you enter COULD be wrong << in the former case you ended up > receiving some windfall and in the latter, suffered some economic disaster >> > But SOME of us, alas, normally have an "other" income between X and Y and > always have a messy calculation to perform come tax time to figure out how > much of our SS was taxable. > > Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to treat benefit payments from government?
On 4/17/2019 6:16 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Someone on the list from Canada (even better, a local CPA) should offer better advice, but the first question you probably want answered is, “Is this taxable next year?” That will likely influence how you record it now. Regards, Adrien Adrian, it could be worse than that (in the general case). How about SS pension payments here in the US? The question "is this taxable" cannot be answered based upon the pension payment alone because it will depend on OTHER income received. Thus while you could possibly "know" (barring unexpected events) that none of it will be taxable (your estimate of other income is below X) or that 85% of it will be taxable (your estimate of other income is above Y) what you enter COULD be wrong << in the former case you ended up receiving some windfall and in the latter, suffered some economic disaster >> But SOME of us, alas, normally have an "other" income between X and Y and always have a messy calculation to perform come tax time to figure out how much of our SS was taxable. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions
Try that portable package. Good luck. - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, April 18, 2019 6:28 PM, Greg Feneis wrote: > I (OP) haven't got around to trying it yet. Originally I upgraded from > 2.6.21 to 3.5 and hand a problem with it, so went back to 2.6.21. I > understand that problem's been fixed. So I thought I'd try it out. But I > thought I would try to install it without uninstalling 2.6.21. I'm still > hoping for a way to directly install a new version without uninstalling an > old version. > > Kind regards, > > Greg Feneis > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 3:56 AM Justin Mathew via gnucash-user > wrote: > >> Can the OP or anyone update whether the portable version worked parallel to >> the installed version? >> >> - >> Regards, >> Justin Mathew >> mjus...@protonmail.com >> >> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. >> >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:32 PM, Justin Mathew >> wrote: >> >>> Ah, well I couldn't get that point. >>> >>> I guess the only way for OP is to try a virtual box if running both version >>> is equally important. >>> >>> - >>> Regards, >>> Justin Mathew >>> mjus...@protonmail.com >>> >>> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. >>> >>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >>> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:27 PM, David Carlson >>> wrote: >>> The whole point of OP's asking this question is how to cope with the fact that the 3.x series ruins Windows for using the 2.6.x series except 2.6.21, but some features are permanently broken and can only be reverted at great manual effort. That is why some of us are so slow to update. David Carlson On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 7:47 AM Justin Mathew wrote: > Sorry, disregard my below email. > > Take a look at this -> > https://portableapps.com/apps/office/gnucash_portable > > It also says, "GnuCash Portable can run from a cloud folder, external > drive, or local folder without installing into Windows. It's even better > with the PortableApps.com Platform for easy installs and automatic > updates." > > Concerning the original post, if the installer explicitly tells you that > you have to uninstall the older version, I don't think you can install > two version of GnuCash in the same system. > > However, if it doesn't, then perhaps you can move your current old > version to a different directory, and install the new version in the > default directory. You can start GnuCash from both of these directories > later. > > Please try this at your own risk. I don't use Windows anymore, so not > sure if it'd work. > > - > Regards, > Justin Mathew > mjus...@protonmail.com > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:10 PM, Justin Mathew > wrote: > >> For which platform? >> >> >> - >> >> Regards, >> Justin Mathew >> mjus...@protonmail.com >> >> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. >> >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:36 PM, David Carlson >> david.carlson@gmail.com wrote: >> >> > Are there instructions somewhere on how to run a portableapps session? >> > David Carlson >> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 3:30 AM Christopher Lam christopher@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> > >> > > You can always run a portableapps session. >> > > On Mon., 15 Apr. 2019, 23:59 Greg Feneis, mfen...@gmail.com wrote: >> > > >> > > > Win 7-64, GnuCash 6.2.21 >> > > > Hi Folks, >> > > > Is there a way to install a new version without uninstalling the >> > > > old >> > > > version? The install wizard doesn't seem to let me select the >> > > > install >> > > > location, while it appears to require uninstalling the old version >> > > > before >> > > > installing the new version. >> > > > Currently, GnuCash resides at C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\ >> > > > If I had a choice, I might like C:\Program Files >> > > > (x86)\gnucash\6.2.21\ >> > > > for >> > > > my current installation, and C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\3.5.1\ >> > > > for >> > > > the >> > > > install I'm about to do, and so on. >> > > > Kind regards, >> > > > Greg Feneis >> > > > gnucash-user mailing list >> > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> > > > >> > > > Please
Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions
I (OP) haven't got around to trying it yet. Originally I upgraded from 2.6.21 to 3.5 and hand a problem with it, so went back to 2.6.21. I understand that problem's been fixed. So I thought I'd try it out. But I thought I would try to install it without uninstalling 2.6.21. I'm still hoping for a way to directly install a new version without uninstalling an old version. Kind regards, Greg Feneis On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 3:56 AM Justin Mathew via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > Can the OP or anyone update whether the portable version worked parallel > to the installed version? > > - > Regards, > Justin Mathew > mjus...@protonmail.com > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:32 PM, Justin Mathew > wrote: > > > Ah, well I couldn't get that point. > > > > I guess the only way for OP is to try a virtual box if running both > version is equally important. > > > > - > > Regards, > > Justin Mathew > > mjus...@protonmail.com > > > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:27 PM, David Carlson < > david.carlson@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> The whole point of OP's asking this question is how to cope with the > fact that the 3.x series ruins Windows for using the 2.6.x series except > 2.6.21, but some features are permanently broken and can only be reverted > at great manual effort. > >> > >> That is why some of us are so slow to update. > >> > >> David Carlson > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 7:47 AM Justin Mathew > wrote: > >> > >>> Sorry, disregard my below email. > >>> > >>> Take a look at this -> > https://portableapps.com/apps/office/gnucash_portable > >>> > >>> It also says, "GnuCash Portable can run from a cloud folder, external > drive, or local folder without installing into Windows. It's even better > with the PortableApps.com Platform for easy installs and automatic updates." > >>> > >>> Concerning the original post, if the installer explicitly tells you > that you have to uninstall the older version, I don't think you can install > two version of GnuCash in the same system. > >>> > >>> However, if it doesn't, then perhaps you can move your current old > version to a different directory, and install the new version in the > default directory. You can start GnuCash from both of these directories > later. > >>> > >>> Please try this at your own risk. I don't use Windows anymore, so not > sure if it'd work. > >>> > >>> - > >>> Regards, > >>> Justin Mathew > >>> mjus...@protonmail.com > >>> > >>> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > >>> > >>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > >>> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:10 PM, Justin Mathew < > mjus...@protonmail.com> wrote: > >>> > For which platform? > > > - > > Regards, > Justin Mathew > mjus...@protonmail.com > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:36 PM, David Carlson > david.carlson@gmail.com wrote: > > > Are there instructions somewhere on how to run a portableapps > session? > > David Carlson > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 3:30 AM Christopher Lam > christopher@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > You can always run a portableapps session. > > > On Mon., 15 Apr. 2019, 23:59 Greg Feneis, mfen...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > Win 7-64, GnuCash 6.2.21 > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > Is there a way to install a new version without uninstalling > the old > > > > version? The install wizard doesn't seem to let me select the > install > > > > location, while it appears to require uninstalling the old > version before > > > > installing the new version. > > > > Currently, GnuCash resides at C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\ > > > > If I had a choice, I might like C:\Program Files > (x86)\gnucash\6.2.21\ > > > > for > > > > my current installation, and C:\Program Files > (x86)\gnucash\3.5.1\ for > > > > the > > > > install I'm about to do, and so on. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Greg Feneis > > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more > information. > > > > > > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >
Re: [GNC] Linux build from source
David, I read all that thanks. Going to play around with it on Mint I'm just used to installing by PPA from package maintainers. I just have to worry about MSQL & Java versions and his builds are listed. Here is an example of my security camera software. https://launchpad.net/~iconnor/+archive/ubuntu/zoneminder-storageareas Jimmy -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot run v3 on Windows 7 since a year
I reinstalled the current version again to see the log.
It does not write any log file since the Visual C++ runtime pops with
that error.
I don't know if this helps, but I tried to run guile.exe from the
command line and this happened:
###
C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin>guile
Throw without catch before boot:
Throw to key misc-error with args ("primitive-load-path" "Unable to find
file ~S in load path" ("ice-9/boot-9") #f)Aborting.
This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusua
Please contact the application's support team for more information.
If I run gnucash.exe from the command line, I get the same popup error
message I have gotten before, containing the last part of the above
error message.
Oliver
Am 09.04.2019 um 11:27 schrieb Colin Law:
Have a look in the gnucash trace file after you try to start it.
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile
Colin
On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 10:25, ohei2 via gnucash-user
wrote:
Hi,
I just tried to install v3.5 on my Win7 64bit. It installed and on the the
first attempt to start it I get
/This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual
way. Please contact the application's support team for more information/
I also tried an uninstall and deleting the leftover directory like suggested
in a similar thread. Same error message.
I did switch back to 2.6.21 which runs without any problems.
About one year ago I tried to install 3.0 which also would not run back then
and switched back to the older version.
I am a bit clueless on how to proceed. Sitting it out does not seem to work
obviously.
Regards, ohei2
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Re: [GNC] Convert from Quicken by date rather than account -- recommended?
Very glad I asked. There are a lot of transfers in 14000 transactions. Thanks! On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 3:43 PM David Carlson, wrote: > Cricket, > > The main disadvantage to that method is that the match existing feature > does not detect duplicates within the same file, so all transfers will > appear twice. > > David Carlson > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 2:02 PM Cricket Onebit > wrote: > >> Would it work to go by date, one file per year or even quarter or month, >> instead instead of by account? >> >> Pros: >> - Transactions with multiple accounts (eg transfers or "gift card + cash") >> get done in the same session. >> - Less confusion as to what's been done over multiple sessions. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Cricket / Sandy >> >> -- >> +++ >> >> Not as a ladder from earth to Heaven, not as a witness to any creed, >> But simple service simply given to his own kind in their common need. >> -- Rudyard Kipling >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions
Can the OP or anyone update whether the portable version worked parallel to the installed version? - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:32 PM, Justin Mathew wrote: > Ah, well I couldn't get that point. > > I guess the only way for OP is to try a virtual box if running both version > is equally important. > > - > Regards, > Justin Mathew > mjus...@protonmail.com > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:27 PM, David Carlson > wrote: > >> The whole point of OP's asking this question is how to cope with the fact >> that the 3.x series ruins Windows for using the 2.6.x series except 2.6.21, >> but some features are permanently broken and can only be reverted at great >> manual effort. >> >> That is why some of us are so slow to update. >> >> David Carlson >> >> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 7:47 AM Justin Mathew wrote: >> >>> Sorry, disregard my below email. >>> >>> Take a look at this -> https://portableapps.com/apps/office/gnucash_portable >>> >>> It also says, "GnuCash Portable can run from a cloud folder, external >>> drive, or local folder without installing into Windows. It's even better >>> with the PortableApps.com Platform for easy installs and automatic updates." >>> >>> Concerning the original post, if the installer explicitly tells you that >>> you have to uninstall the older version, I don't think you can install two >>> version of GnuCash in the same system. >>> >>> However, if it doesn't, then perhaps you can move your current old version >>> to a different directory, and install the new version in the default >>> directory. You can start GnuCash from both of these directories later. >>> >>> Please try this at your own risk. I don't use Windows anymore, so not sure >>> if it'd work. >>> >>> - >>> Regards, >>> Justin Mathew >>> mjus...@protonmail.com >>> >>> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. >>> >>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >>> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:10 PM, Justin Mathew >>> wrote: >>> For which platform? - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:36 PM, David Carlson david.carlson@gmail.com wrote: > Are there instructions somewhere on how to run a portableapps session? > David Carlson > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 3:30 AM Christopher Lam christopher@gmail.com > wrote: > > > You can always run a portableapps session. > > On Mon., 15 Apr. 2019, 23:59 Greg Feneis, mfen...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Win 7-64, GnuCash 6.2.21 > > > Hi Folks, > > > Is there a way to install a new version without uninstalling the old > > > version? The install wizard doesn't seem to let me select the install > > > location, while it appears to require uninstalling the old version > > > before > > > installing the new version. > > > Currently, GnuCash resides at C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\ > > > If I had a choice, I might like C:\Program Files > > > (x86)\gnucash\6.2.21\ > > > for > > > my current installation, and C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\3.5.1\ > > > for > > > the > > > install I'm about to do, and so on. > > > Kind regards, > > > Greg Feneis > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Logging into the forum
Thanks Derek, Is there any reason why we do not have an official forum? Or is it that users are happier with mailing list? This is my first mailing list subscription, hence I may not be aware of those advantages it has over forums (if any). - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, April 18, 2019 4:10 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, April 18, 2019 6:22 am, Justin Mathew via gnucash-user wrote: > > > Hi > > Can't I login to http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/ using my email > > address subscribed to mailing list and the password provided? I tried and > > it didn't work. > > Do I have to register a new account? > > Nabble is a third-party service not at all connected with the GnuCash > project. GnuCash has no forums, just an email list. Nabble takes that > list and, in however they do it, provides a web front end. IF you decide > to use Nabble's services, you are doing so completely separate from the > GnuCash mailing lists. > > So to answer your question, yes, you need a separate login between Nabble > and GnuCash. If you signed up for the GnuCash lists you can NOT use that > login at nabble. And if you sign up for nabble, your posts will get > moderated until you sign up for the list with GnuCash. > > Enjoy! > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > -derek > > - > >Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 >de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com >Computer and Internet Security Consultant > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Logging into the forum
Hi, On Thu, April 18, 2019 6:22 am, Justin Mathew via gnucash-user wrote: > Hi > > Can't I login to http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/ using my email > address subscribed to mailing list and the password provided? I tried and > it didn't work. > > Do I have to register a new account? Nabble is a third-party service not at all connected with the GnuCash project. GnuCash has no forums, just an email list. Nabble takes that list and, in however they do it, provides a web front end. IF you decide to use Nabble's services, you are doing so completely separate from the GnuCash mailing lists. So to answer your question, yes, you need a separate login between Nabble and GnuCash. If you signed up for the GnuCash lists you can NOT use that login at nabble. And if you sign up for nabble, your posts will get moderated until you sign up for the list with GnuCash. Enjoy! > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Logging into the forum
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:22:43 + Justin Mathew via gnucash-user wrote: > Hi > > Can't I login to http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/ using my email > address subscribed to mailing list and the password provided? I tried > and it didn't work. So you have answered your question correctly. It's No. > > Do I have to register a new account? > If you want to use Nabble you need to register with Nabble. Liz ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Column Width
Another date tip: You can increment/decrement your date using the plus and minus keys. > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 12:29:11 +0100 > From: Michael Hendry > To: Justin Mathew > Cc: Derek Atkins , "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Column Width > > > On 17 Apr 2019, at 11:48, Justin Mathew via gnucash-user > > wrote: > > > > Is there any way to enter dates from keyboard? Eg, if you have to enter a > > record for past dates, you have to choose the dates from the drop down > > calendar. Any format that I can type to get the dates? > > Just type it, in the form DD/MM/YY > > If you type only DD then to the next field, it will assume the current > month and year. > > If you type DD/MM and you?ll get the current year. > > Michael ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Logging into the forum
Hi Can't I login to http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/ using my email address subscribed to mailing list and the password provided? I tried and it didn't work. Do I have to register a new account? - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Installing 3.5 deb packages on Ubuntu 19.04 Disco Dingo
Adrien, dpkg -l | grep will give the details of the installed packages to check against the required packages list. 19.04 may have more recent versions of some packages than what GnuCash specifies. In many cases this won't matter unless changes in the package directly affect calls made to it by GnuCash. You should only have to revert to earlier versions if GnuCash spits the dummy on the newer version. Usually the the requirements are setup for a specific version or newer unless there is a known change in the package which affects GnuCash in which case the version is limited to an explicit value. I think I built 3.5 on Linux Mint 19.1 (Ubuntu 18.04) with Python 3.7.3 a few days ago. Unfortunately I'm in Singapore and don't have that laptop with me to checkat the moment. David - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Installing 3.5 deb packages on Ubuntu 19.04 Disco Dingo
I can confirm that Stephen's deb files don't work with Ubuntu 19.04. To remove the half installed packages you can run sudo apt remove gnucash-common gnucash python3-gnucash sudo apt autoremove Colin Colin On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 07:21, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > So, I’m jumping a day ahead and I upgraded my Ubuntu Cosmic 18.10 > installation to 19.04. > > Now, attempting to install Stephen’s 3.5 .deb build gets me this: > > ``` > gnucash depends on libboost-date-time1.65.1; however: > Package libboost-date-time1.65.1 is not installed. > gnucash depends on libboost-filesystem1.65.1; however: > Package libboost-filesystem1.65.1 is not installed. > gnucash depends on libboost-locale1.65.1; however: > Package libboost-locale1.65.1 is not installed. > gnucash depends on libboost-regex1.65.1; however: > Package libboost-regex1.65.1 is not installed. > gnucash depends on libboost-system1.65.1; however: > Package libboost-system1.65.1 is not installed. > gnucash depends on libpython3.6 (>= 3.6.5); however: > Package libpython3.6 is not installed. > gnucash depends on libfinance-quote-perl; however: > Package libfinance-quote-perl is not installed. > gnucash depends on libhtml-tableextract-perl; however: > Package libhtml-tableextract-perl is not installed. > gnucash depends on libcrypt-ssleay-perl; however: > Package libcrypt-ssleay-perl is not installed. > ``` > > I seem to recall similar errors when I tried the 3.4 package on 18.10. So > perhaps there is now this odd situation where newer distros which don’t have > newer GC versions still have to build from source, because the pre-built > versions are targeting a lower release. (19.04 *does* contain 3.4 however in > it’s repos) > > I was going to fight through the above dependency pasta, but then I saw this > right after: > > ``` > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of python3-gnucash: > python3-gnucash depends on libpython3.6 (>= 3.6.5); however: > Package libpython3.6 is not installed. > python3-gnucash depends on python3 (<< 3.7); however: > Version of python3 on system is 3.7.3-1. > ``` > > So my version of python3 is too new? Hmm.. I’m not going to downgrade it. > This might simply be a specification in the packaging. Maybe building from > source won’t throw the same errors. > > I’m headed to bed, but I might try building from source in the am, just to > see if the wiki instructions need updating for Disco, unless someone beats me > to it. > > > Regards, > Adrien > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account
On 17 April 2019 at 19:12, ToddAndMargo said: > On 4/16/19 1:24 AM, Fred Bone wrote: > >> So I should switch my opening balance to a negative number? > > > Possibly. It rather depends on whether your account was overdrawn when > > you started your current books. > > My paper bank book and bank statement shows a positive number. > > They way I am understanding this, they own me a debt, so I > should enter it as a negative number for opening balance > because they have a debt to me Your choice. You should enter it as a negative amount if you insist on putting the amount in the "credit" column. Gnucash will then transfer the amount, as a positive number, to the "debit" column for you. Or you can enter it in the "debit" column, as a positive number. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Return of Capital
Hi! Thanks for the feedback. Let me try to answer both your and John's
questions and perhaps a few details along the way.
> Let's say there is $1000 in 100 shares in IPE account.
2000-01-01 * Bought IPE
Assets:Investments:Broker:Shares:IPE100 IPE {10.00 USD} [2000-01-01]
@ 10.00 USD
Assets:Investments:Broker:Cash -1000.00 USD
> The fund is shutting down and returning funds to the shareholders.
> Now, I still have the same amount of shares (100) but they are only worth
> ~$500, and I got $500 back in cash.
2019-04-01 * Return of capital
Assets:Investments:Broker:Cash 500.00 USD
Assets:Investments:Broker:Shares:IPE100 IPE { 5.00 USD} [2000-01-01]
@ 5.00 USD
Assets:Investments:Broker:Shares:IPE -100 IPE {10.00 USD} [2000-01-01]
@ 5.00 USD
Ref:
- question on SE:
https://money.stackexchange.com/questions/107906/how-to-enter-return-of-capital-in-ledger-cli
- Australian Tax Office (ATO) ruling:
https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/document?docid=%22CLR%2FCR201834%2FNAT%2FATO%2F1%22
First note that the numbers are simplified for the sake of example. The real
return of capital was 3.5 cents per share, as per ATO ruling. So, what
happens above:
- the first transaction shows that IPE was purchased at $10 a share.
- some background: the fund is shutting down its operations and is returning
the capital to the shareholders
- the Return of Capital transactions does two things:
- shows a return of $500 to the cash account (this is what happened in the
real world)
- shows a repricing of the original cost. One split shows a sale of all
the shares at the original price ($10) and "purchase" of the same quantity
at the new price of $5.
These are supposedly correct as, in the end, I've got $500 back. The number
of shares has not changed, I still have 100 shares in the fund. The actual
value has decreased but mainly due to the drop in the market price. And,
finally, I have the new base price for those 100 shares. It is no longer $10
but $5.
This last point is important for the potential future Capital Gains
calculation.
I would like to show this ideally in one transaction because it balances and
represents what actually happens. Technically, it should be possible (and
perhaps is but I don't know how to enter it correctly).
To answer John's questions - IPE was an equity fund on ASX, now delisted
(http://www.delisted.com.au/company/ipe-limited). They've returned all of
their capital over a few years and shut down operations.
So, technically I don't have to worry about potential capital gains but
that's beyond the scope of the original question. :)
When I try to create this second transaction in GnuCash, I'm stuck at the
following - https://imgur.com/vihbSst
The trading split is inserted automatically, due to the usage of Trading
Accounts and that throws off the balance, I suspect, but I also may be
wrong.
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[GNC] Installing 3.5 deb packages on Ubuntu 19.04 Disco Dingo
So, I’m jumping a day ahead and I upgraded my Ubuntu Cosmic 18.10 installation to 19.04. Now, attempting to install Stephen’s 3.5 .deb build gets me this: ``` gnucash depends on libboost-date-time1.65.1; however: Package libboost-date-time1.65.1 is not installed. gnucash depends on libboost-filesystem1.65.1; however: Package libboost-filesystem1.65.1 is not installed. gnucash depends on libboost-locale1.65.1; however: Package libboost-locale1.65.1 is not installed. gnucash depends on libboost-regex1.65.1; however: Package libboost-regex1.65.1 is not installed. gnucash depends on libboost-system1.65.1; however: Package libboost-system1.65.1 is not installed. gnucash depends on libpython3.6 (>= 3.6.5); however: Package libpython3.6 is not installed. gnucash depends on libfinance-quote-perl; however: Package libfinance-quote-perl is not installed. gnucash depends on libhtml-tableextract-perl; however: Package libhtml-tableextract-perl is not installed. gnucash depends on libcrypt-ssleay-perl; however: Package libcrypt-ssleay-perl is not installed. ``` I seem to recall similar errors when I tried the 3.4 package on 18.10. So perhaps there is now this odd situation where newer distros which don’t have newer GC versions still have to build from source, because the pre-built versions are targeting a lower release. (19.04 *does* contain 3.4 however in it’s repos) I was going to fight through the above dependency pasta, but then I saw this right after: ``` dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of python3-gnucash: python3-gnucash depends on libpython3.6 (>= 3.6.5); however: Package libpython3.6 is not installed. python3-gnucash depends on python3 (<< 3.7); however: Version of python3 on system is 3.7.3-1. ``` So my version of python3 is too new? Hmm.. I’m not going to downgrade it. This might simply be a specification in the packaging. Maybe building from source won’t throw the same errors. I’m headed to bed, but I might try building from source in the am, just to see if the wiki instructions need updating for Disco, unless someone beats me to it. Regards, Adrien ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
