Re: [GNC] Small bug in the display

[mhdecoursey .]

Yes, indeed, that does fix it!

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Linux Mint, DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia" fully up to date.
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On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 7:08 AM Colin Law  wrote:

> Does double clicking the date column header fix it?
>
> What OS are you using and what version of GnuCash?
>
> Colin
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:05, mhdecoursey .  wrote:
> >
> > The first column of date characters is partially outside the window
> frame,
> > making some entries difficult to read.  snap enclosed.
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Re: [GNC] How to install GnuCash from Source for Linux ?

[David Cousens]

There are some .deb installation files that Stephen Butler produced for
Ubuntu 18.04 which should work under LM 19.3 (search the mailing list for
posts re debian should find them)

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Linux  covers building from source
of the most up to date versions.

I currently have 3.8 built on Linux Mint 19.3 runnning with no problems.
Once you get all the dependencies loaded it is generally pretty straight
forward, but then I've been buidling it for ~10 years. 

Pay attention to the relative addressing of the source directory from the
build directory in the cmake command as this is the thing most people new to
building GnuCash have trouble with.

Good luck

David Cousens



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[GNC] How to install GnuCash from Source for Linux ?

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I spent a lot of time to read some topic on internet, and i couldn't find
anything "EASY" to help me install GnuCash (Newest version) into my Linux
Mint 19.3.

Ok, if i install it from Software Center, it's older version from GnuCash
webpage, and if i install it from FLATPAK, it's prevent me to use "Ibus" or
"Fcitx".

Why GnuCash doesn't release a .deb or .Appimage for their users ?



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[GNC] Where should i put my account "Loan to a Friend" when they evaded debt ?

[Long]

Hello GnuCash Users,

I just assumed that when i loan to a friend and they don't give my money
back, and then, where should i put that Account to make it doesn't not
affect my Assets ? i mean, my Asset only had 100$, "Stealer" owed to me
about 20$, everytime i open GnuCash... oh, look, this month i got 120$, and
check my bank, oh man, it's only 100$...

To Expense : I assumed that i want to put it to Expense, maybe it's make
sense, because i already spent my money.

To Liability : How about move it to Liability ? so look at a placeholder
"Liability", my owe will decrease because i will make a negative account for
"owed to me". it seems like unreasonable for me when i check my owed.

of course, this is just assumed, like the way GnuCash teach us when the
first time we fall in love with GnuCash.

Thank you for take your time to read this post, and help me.




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Re: [GNC] Precision in exchange rate conversion

[John Ralls]

That's not mangling the data, it's presenting the exact value of 
11102.12/1975.10, a number that isn't representable as a decimal without 
rounding.

As for the display being clever, of course it isn't, it's a computer.
But it you enter the two values 11102.12 and 1975.10 GnuCash shouldn't change 
them, it should just calculate the ratio and present that as the price, either 
exactly as 5 + 61331/98755 or as  5.621041972558352 rounded to however many 
decimal places. When I test that, it's exactly what I get, see the attached 
screen shot. Note the exact exchange rate in the exchange rate box but the 
rounded decimal values to the right of it.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Feb 19, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Paul Abraham  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. That seems to work, but it certainly isn't what I want. The
>   exchange rate is now shown as "5 + 61331/98755" which is less than
>   helpful - it most certainly is not how real world exchange rates are
>   quoted, and it makes comparison almost impossible!
> 
>   Why does the display option mangle the data? That isn't very clever. I
>   think I'll just stick in a fudge factor as a separate split to correct
>   the total though it's a long way from ideal.
> 
>   Thanks very much for the answer, though. I can stop chasing moonbeams
>   now ;-)

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Re: [GNC] Precision in exchange rate conversion

[Paul Abraham]

   Hmm. That seems to work, but it certainly isn't what I want. The
   exchange rate is now shown as "5 + 61331/98755" which is less than
   helpful - it most certainly is not how real world exchange rates are
   quoted, and it makes comparison almost impossible!

   Why does the display option mangle the data? That isn't very clever. I
   think I'll just stick in a fudge factor as a separate split to correct
   the total though it's a long way from ideal.

   Thanks very much for the answer, though. I can stop chasing moonbeams
   now ;-)

   On 19/02/2020 14:26, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Check that Preferences > General > Numbers > 'Force Prices to display as decimal
s' is *unchecked*.

This should result in fractions being shown rather than being rounded or truncat
ed. You may need to have Trading Accounts turned on, but I could be mistaken.

The total decimals used I think has something to do with the setting of the invo
lved currencies.

Both BRL and GBP are set to 1/100 as the lowest fractional piece of currency. Th
us an exchange between them will preserve 4 decimal places. (1/100 * 1/100 = 1/1
)

Unfortunately, I don’t see a way to edit this field as it is greyed out in the S
ecurity Editor.

Regards,
Adrien


On Feb 19, 2020 w8d50, at 5:31 AM, Paul Abraham [1] wrote:

  I have real world transaction that involves a transfer from a GBP to a
  BRL account but cannot get it to accept either the correct value in BRL
  or the actual exchange rate. It insists on truncating the rate to 3
  decimal places (or 4 sig figs?) and adjusting the amount to match, even
  though the "Transfer Funds" window suggests it's working to 6 DPs - .
  How do I fix this? Details are:
  OS: 4.19.102-1-MANJARO
  Gnucash version: Version: 3.8 (Build ID: 3.8b+(2019-12-29)) - the
  latest in the Manjaro repository.
  Amount in GBP: 1975.10
  Amount in BRL: 11102.12
  Exchange Rate: 5.62104
  Gnucash forces exchange rate to 5.621000 resulting in BRL value of
  11,102.04

  Thanks

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Re: [GNC] Precision in exchange rate conversion

[Paul Abraham]

   Hi,

   Yes, that's what I did first (it's actually what I normally do) but
   gnucash clobbers it to the incorrect value. I then tried entering the
   rate and the same thing occured.

   On 19/02/2020 15:18, Derek Atkins wrote:

Hi,

Paul Abraham [1] writes:


   I have real world transaction that involves a transfer from a GBP to a
   BRL account but cannot get it to accept either the correct value in BRL
   or the actual exchange rate. It insists on truncating the rate to 3
   decimal places (or 4 sig figs?) and adjusting the amount to match, even
   though the "Transfer Funds" window suggests it's working to 6 DPs - .
   How do I fix this? Details are:
   OS: 4.19.102-1-MANJARO
   Gnucash version: Version: 3.8 (Build ID: 3.8b+(2019-12-29)) - the
   latest in the Manjaro repository.
   Amount in GBP: 1975.10
   Amount in BRL: 11102.12
   Exchange Rate: 5.62104
   Gnucash forces exchange rate to 5.621000 resulting in BRL value of
   11,102.04

The exchange rate is computed; so ignore that and just enter the correct
values for GBP and BRL and ignore what exchange it gnucash claims.


   Thanks


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[GNC] YNAB 4 to GnuCash Migration Tool

[Gal Bar Mashiah]

Hello,
Smooth migration from YNAB 4 to GnuCash is not possible due to QIF
interpretation mismatch between the programs.
I wrote a tool that modifies the YNAB 4 exported QIFs so that they can be
imported in GnuCash.
Full readme and code is available here:
https://github.com/galbarm/YNAB4toGnuCashMigrationTool
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Re: [GNC] Precision in exchange rate conversion

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

Paul Abraham  writes:

>I have real world transaction that involves a transfer from a GBP to a
>BRL account but cannot get it to accept either the correct value in BRL
>or the actual exchange rate. It insists on truncating the rate to 3
>decimal places (or 4 sig figs?) and adjusting the amount to match, even
>though the "Transfer Funds" window suggests it's working to 6 DPs - .
>How do I fix this? Details are:
>OS: 4.19.102-1-MANJARO
>Gnucash version: Version: 3.8 (Build ID: 3.8b+(2019-12-29)) - the
>latest in the Manjaro repository.
>Amount in GBP: 1975.10
>Amount in BRL: 11102.12
>Exchange Rate: 5.62104
>Gnucash forces exchange rate to 5.621000 resulting in BRL value of
>11,102.04

The exchange rate is computed; so ignore that and just enter the correct
values for GBP and BRL and ignore what exchange it gnucash claims.

>Thanks

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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Fwd: Failed - import of QIF files from Quicken

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

Adrien Monteleone  writes:

> I seem to recall a development goal being to eliminate Scheme code
> except for reports.
>
> This might be a good candidate for just re-writing this in C/C++ with
> proper tests and verbose error output and/or logging.
>
> If someone with the skillset is interested of course.

I started a re-write of the QIF importer in C a very very long time
ago.  That (failed) re-write has long-since been removed from the repo.
It turns out that C is not very good at tokenizing and parsing strings.
Funny that.

I am sure that using std::string in C++ would make it a lot easier to
reprogram, but honestly the existing QIF importer is fairly robust and
fairly well tested (via time).

The real downside of the current implementation is that it doesn't have
a test suite where you can throw test-case QIF files at it and ensure
you get a reasonable answer.

Having said that, whether or not you can actually throw an error with
the line number will depend deeply on where it fails.  The way the
process works is that it reads in the file (line by line) and tokenizes
the data.  At this point it would be relatively easy to output the line
number.  Then, after the file is tokenized, it actually goes through and
parses the tokens for QIF correctness; most likely THIS is where the
failure occurs, but at this point we don't have line numbers any more.

So we COULD add a "see line number X" into the qif-file.scm (IIRC), but
I doubt that's the stage of the process where the error happens.

> Regards,
> Adrien

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Re: [GNC] Small bug in the display

[Greg Feneis]

Note that in some cases widening a column can put all of the columns on a
common page with a scroll bar at the bottom. So it's possible for the left
most column's contents (date) to appear off the screen.

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 07:11 Colin Law  wrote:

> Does double clicking the date column header fix it?
>
> What OS are you using and what version of GnuCash?
>
> Colin
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:05, mhdecoursey .  wrote:
> >
> > The first column of date characters is partially outside the window
> frame,
> > making some entries difficult to read.  snap enclosed.
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Re: [GNC] help

[Adrien Monteleone]

Looks like the wrong screenshot.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 19, 2020 w8d50, at 11:22 AM, Keith Miller  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes only mine is worse on PopOS-Ubuntu 19.10
> 
> Interesting. I just tried to take a screenshot. I need to bring the
> screenshot app up and when I do this the transfer menu fills in. But only
> when there is an overlay window. The same is Not true if I bring up the
> about GnuCash dialog.
> 


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Re: [GNC] Precision in exchange rate conversion

[Adrien Monteleone]

Check that Preferences > General > Numbers > 'Force Prices to display as 
decimals' is *unchecked*.

This should result in fractions being shown rather than being rounded or 
truncated. You may need to have Trading Accounts turned on, but I could be 
mistaken.

The total decimals used I think has something to do with the setting of the 
involved currencies.

Both BRL and GBP are set to 1/100 as the lowest fractional piece of currency. 
Thus an exchange between them will preserve 4 decimal places. (1/100 * 1/100 = 
1/1)

Unfortunately, I don’t see a way to edit this field as it is greyed out in the 
Security Editor.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 19, 2020 w8d50, at 5:31 AM, Paul Abraham  wrote:
> 
>   I have real world transaction that involves a transfer from a GBP to a
>   BRL account but cannot get it to accept either the correct value in BRL
>   or the actual exchange rate. It insists on truncating the rate to 3
>   decimal places (or 4 sig figs?) and adjusting the amount to match, even
>   though the "Transfer Funds" window suggests it's working to 6 DPs - .
>   How do I fix this? Details are:
>   OS: 4.19.102-1-MANJARO
>   Gnucash version: Version: 3.8 (Build ID: 3.8b+(2019-12-29)) - the
>   latest in the Manjaro repository.
>   Amount in GBP: 1975.10
>   Amount in BRL: 11102.12
>   Exchange Rate: 5.62104
>   Gnucash forces exchange rate to 5.621000 resulting in BRL value of
>   11,102.04
> 
>   Thanks

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Re: [GNC] How2find 1) Duplicate items imported 2)Un-Posted Bills?

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On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 01:49, Greg Feneis  wrote:

> I typically import qif and ofx files into checking or credit card accounts.
> GC does a pretty good job of matching pending import transactions with
> transactions that are already present. Also, I have tried to import a file
> that I previously tried to import, and nothing shows up in the matcher
> dialog.  I don't know how it knows but I'm glad it does
>

because, I think:
OFX imports match via complex heuristics(*)
OFX imports have a FITID field which is stored in a transaction split's
invisible "online_id" property.
QIF imports don't have a similar field, so, the matching is actually done
manually during every import, and is imperfect(**)

(*) matching tests: amounts match, make some allowances for ATM fee
threshold, dates differ by ideally 4 days but consider up to 2 weeks.
(**) matching is successful when: amounts matched, dates differ by 1 week
or less.
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Re: [GNC] Small bug in the display

[Colin Law]

Does double clicking the date column header fix it?

What OS are you using and what version of GnuCash?

Colin

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:05, mhdecoursey .  wrote:
>
> The first column of date characters is partially outside the window frame,
> making some entries difficult to read.  snap enclosed.
>
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[GNC] Precision in exchange rate conversion

[Paul Abraham]

   I have real world transaction that involves a transfer from a GBP to a
   BRL account but cannot get it to accept either the correct value in BRL
   or the actual exchange rate. It insists on truncating the rate to 3
   decimal places (or 4 sig figs?) and adjusting the amount to match, even
   though the "Transfer Funds" window suggests it's working to 6 DPs - .
   How do I fix this? Details are:
   OS: 4.19.102-1-MANJARO
   Gnucash version: Version: 3.8 (Build ID: 3.8b+(2019-12-29)) - the
   latest in the Manjaro repository.
   Amount in GBP: 1975.10
   Amount in BRL: 11102.12
   Exchange Rate: 5.62104
   Gnucash forces exchange rate to 5.621000 resulting in BRL value of
   11,102.04

   Thanks
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Re: [GNC] How to enter value when budgeting? And meaning ?

[Long]

You helped me a lot, and Thank you so much for take your time to answer my
questions.
Best Regards.



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Re: [GNC] Small bug in the display

[Adrien Monteleone]

There is already a bug filed on a similar issue with dates, but I’m not sure if 
this has the same cause. (though one solution might work for both issues)

In the meantime, you can manually resize the date column.

The downside is this is only remembered per account register rather than all of 
them at once.

(I think there is also a bug that on some systems the resizing is not 
remembered at all, so mileage may vary)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 18, 2020 w8d49, at 7:33 PM, mhdecoursey .  
> wrote:
> 
> The first column of date characters is partially outside the window frame,
> making some entries difficult to read.  snap enclosed.

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Re: [GNC] How to enter value when budgeting? And meaning ?

[Adrien Monteleone]

It looks like you have everything set correctly. (and you really don’t need to 
uninstall/reinstall when you make such changes)

I see now, in Tools > Security Editor, the Dong (VND) is set for 1/100 instead 
of 1 as the smallest fraction. Perhaps this is why you are still seeing 
decimals.

Unfortunately, even using the Edit button doesn’t allow you to change this. 
(all fields but the symbol are greyed out)

Perhaps someone more familiar with Currency editing can chime in.

I’m sorry I couldn’t help further.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 19, 2020 w8d50, at 2:53 AM, Long  wrote:
> 
> i have attached 3 pictures about my computer setting. It's still have decimal
> after I setup my currency and number in my computer -> restart my computer
> -> uninstall GnuCash -> reinstall GnuCash (3.8b+) -> create a new account on
> GnuCash.
> it's weird, is it a bugs from GnuCash?
> 1 - Currency setting on my Computer :  currency.png
>   
> 2 - Number setting on my Computer :  number.png
>   
> 3 - GnuCash setting :  gnucash-setup.png
>   
> 
> Regards.


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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Failed - import of QIF files from Quicken

[Geert Janssens]

They should not be taken off-line, they should be taken to gnucash-devel.

I have purposely left gnucash-user in cc in this mail to inform everybody, but 
please on future 
replies remove gnucash-user from the recipient list and only post to 
gnucash-devel.

Regards,

Geert

Op woensdag 19 februari 2020 05:18:06 CET schreef Tom Hatzigeorgiou:
> If what I asked cannot be done i will try to produce a file with the
> errorsome other way I would suggest to take these emails offline.  I think
> they confuse the user community
> 
> I will be in touch
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> On Feb 18, 2020 5:34 PM, "Frank H. Ellenberger"
>  wrote:
> Am 18.02.20 um 22:52 schrieb Christopher Lam:
> > Sorry. Please ask other devs on public mailing list.
> > 
> > On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 15:51, Tom Hatzigeorgiou  wrote:
> >> To do this someone will need to help me.
> >> I don't know how projects like this work.
> >> I have no idea where the program source exists and the tools I will need
> >> to manipulate it.
> >> 
> >> I was thinking that a very simple way to debug the code is, for someone
> >> to
> >> place a display on a version of the new importer where every record that
> >> it
> >> processes gets displayed (in a log file) before it gets imported.
> >> This way by running the importer I will see at what record(s) it failed.
> >> I would run it multiple times until I find and eliminate ALL the records
> >> of my file that it fails on.
> >> When all bad records get eliminated and my file gets loaded correctly by
> >> the current importer, I don't think I would have a problem sending you
> >> all
> >> those bad records for you to analyze and see where the new importer has
> >> gone bad.
> >> 
> >> DO you think something like the above can be done?
> 
> At least it should - instead of "Failed" - say "Failed to read line nr %d".
> 
> That would reduce the burden of bisect.
> 
> ~Frank
> 
> 
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[GNC] Small bug in the display

[mhdecoursey .]

The first column of date characters is partially outside the window frame,
making some entries difficult to read.  snap enclosed.







Mark H. DeCoursey
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Re: [GNC] How to enter value when budgeting? And meaning ?

[Long]

i have attached 3 pictures about my computer setting. It's still have decimal
after I setup my currency and number in my computer -> restart my computer
-> uninstall GnuCash -> reinstall GnuCash (3.8b+) -> create a new account on
GnuCash.
it's weird, is it a bugs from GnuCash?
1 - Currency setting on my Computer :  currency.png
  
2 - Number setting on my Computer :  number.png
  
3 - GnuCash setting :  gnucash-setup.png
  

Regards.



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Re: [GNC] How to enter value when budgeting? And meaning ?

[Adrien Monteleone]

You’re welcome, and your English is certainly good enough to get the point 
across, no worries.

As for the currency issue, this usually isn’t set by GnuCash. You set this in 
your operating system settings.

Unfortunately, I don’t use Windows, so I can’t help further, but it should be 
in settings related to Language and Region.

You should see the option to set what character to use for groupings and 
decimals. I’d think you’d have the option to use ’none’.

On my Mac, when I switch to Vietnamese Dong only the ‘grouping’ character 
choice has any effect. The decimal option doesn’t let me choose ’none’ because 
it doesn’t display a decimal at all. Maybe Windows isn’t as fancy, but you 
should be able to set the option for decimal to ’none'.

Note, you’ll then need to set GnuCash’s Currency preference to ‘Locale’ if it 
is not set that way already.


Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 19, 2020 w8d50, at 1:26 AM, Long  wrote:
> 
> i only have one more question, can you help me ?
> like you saw in my picture, you can see that my currencies is VietNam. But
> in VietNam, for a long time ago, We (My Country) don't use decimal anymore.
> My Country currencies smallest fraction is 1 (without ",00")
> But GnuCash auto set my currencies is 0,00 instead 0 (My GnuCash Setting is
> VND, of course included my accounts, report setting)
> Do you know how to set default VND currencies with no ",00" (Accounts and
> Report).
> Sorry for my bad english and thank you for helping me !!!

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