Re: [GNC] Adjusted Trial Balance

2020-07-21 Thread Christopher Lam
Please keep replies public.

Answer: No idea.

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020, 12:27 am Ron Gill,  wrote:

> Maybe creating an Adjustment Account is not such a bad idea in that case -
> is there a quick way to temporarily remove and restore a single account?
> Exporting and deleting Adjustment account is quick, but the Import  looks
> not so good. Am I missing any tricks here?
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 7:43 AM Christopher Lam 
> wrote:
>
>> The various options in the Trial Balance are very ill-defined. This
>> report was created in 2004 [1], with an addition of merchandising
>> businesses [2], but not actually documented anywhere. They have received
>> minor maintenance fixes only otherwise. So, it would be nice to open a
>> dialogue on what these mean exactly. Otherwise it will continue to be
>> undocumented, misunderstood, and perhaps best retired completely.
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/a107a9af2
>> [2] https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/259e01d5c
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 14:13, Ron Gill  wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to figure out what the best practice is for Adjustment Entries and
>>> Adjusted Trial Balance is in GnuCash.
>>>
>>> My main requirement is to be able to easily produce a (Non-Adjusted)
>>> Trial
>>> Balance and a Adjusted Trial Balance report.
>>>
>>> I was thinking of creating a temporary Adjustment Account to hold changes
>>> and I could restore/delete this account to generate the above report.
>>>
>>> Seeking help on best practice for this.
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Re: [GNC] Importfunktion geändert? Herkunftskonto

2020-07-21 Thread David Cousens
Paul,

Sie können das Ursprungskonto entweder in der CSV-Datei selbst oder im 
Importdialog angeben. In der oberen rechten Ecke befindet sich ein 
Kombinationsfeld Konto, wenn alle Transaktionen dasselbe Ursprungskonto haben 
und es nicht in der Datei angegeben ist. Wenn Sie die Kopfzeilen den 
CSV-Spalten zuweisen, gibt es ein Kopfkonto für das Ursprungskonto und ein 
Kopfübertragungskonto für das Zählerkonto. Wenn Sie das Ursprungskonto im 
Kombinationsfeld des Dialogfelds angeben, weisen Sie den Kontokopf nicht einer 
CSV-Spalte zu, sondern nur den Kopf des Kontos übertragen. Wenn dies der erste 
Import ist, ordnet GNuCash die Kontonamen in dieser Spalte den internen Konten 
zu.Sie können das Ursprungskonto angeben. Ich hoffe, ich habe Ihr Problem 
richtig verstanden. 
Prost,

David Cousens

You can specifiy the origin account either within the CSV file itself or  in 
the import dialog there is a combo box
Account in the top right hand corner if all transactions have the same origin 
account and it is not specififed in the
file. WHen you assign the headers to the CSV columns there is a header Account 
for the origin account and a header
Transfer Account for the counter account. If you specify the origin account in 
the dialog combo box, then you do not
assign the Account header to a CSV column only the Transfer Account header. If 
this is the first import GNuCash will map
the account names in this column onto the internal accounts.


On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 15:17 +0200, Paul Neuwirth via gnucash-user wrote:
> Hallo,
> 
> ich habe ein Problem beim Import von CSV-Buchungen.
> 
> Ich war es gewohnt über "Datei->Importieren->Buchungen importieren aus 
> CSV..." und der Angabe des Formats (Datu, Beschreibung, Buchungstext, 
> Einzahlung, Buchungswährung,Konto) und klick auf Weiter für jede Buchung 
> das Gegenkonto manuell auswählen zu können.
> 
> Nun verlangt der Importassistent zwingend ein Herkunftskonto in der CSV?
> "Weiter" ist ausgegraut, "- Bitte wählen Sie eine Herkunftskonto-Spalte 
> oder entfernen Sie die anderen Spalten."
> 
> Habe zum Test als Herkunftskonto ein Ausgleichskonto gewählt, beim 
> Import-Schritt "Buchungen zuordnen" später, kann ich aber nicht, wie 
> früher gewohnt, das Gegenkonto zu wählen..
> 
> Mache ich etwas falsch? Oder ist die Änderung so tatsächlich gewollt?
> Ich habe das Problem nach einer Neuinstallation von gnuCash 3.7. Zuvor 
> war, wenn ich mich nicht täusche 3.0 im Einsatz.
> 
> 
> Vielen Dank für Tipps/Hinweise
> 
> 
> Paul Neuwirth
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Re: [GNC] Importfunktion geändert? Herkunftskonto

2020-07-21 Thread Adrien Monteleone

courtesy of Google Translate:

Entschuldigung, ich kann beim CSV-Problem nicht helfen.

Google Translate sagt mir, dass dies Deutsch ist, und obwohl es hier auf 
dieser Liste einige deutschsprachige Benutzer gibt (vielleicht kann 
einer von ihnen helfen), gibt es eine spezielle GnuCash-Liste für 
deutsche Benutzer. Siehe hier: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists


--

Sorry, I can't help with the CSV problem.

Google Translate tells me this is German, and while there are some 
German speaking users here on this list, (maybe one of them can help 
out) there is a dedicated GnuCash list for German users. See here: 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists


Regards,
Adrien

On 7/21/20 8:17 AM, Paul Neuwirth via gnucash-user wrote:

Hallo,

ich habe ein Problem beim Import von CSV-Buchungen.

Ich war es gewohnt über "Datei->Importieren->Buchungen importieren aus 
CSV..." und der Angabe des Formats (Datu, Beschreibung, Buchungstext, 
Einzahlung, Buchungswährung,Konto) und klick auf Weiter für jede Buchung 
das Gegenkonto manuell auswählen zu können.


Nun verlangt der Importassistent zwingend ein Herkunftskonto in der CSV?
"Weiter" ist ausgegraut, "- Bitte wählen Sie eine Herkunftskonto-Spalte 
oder entfernen Sie die anderen Spalten."


Habe zum Test als Herkunftskonto ein Ausgleichskonto gewählt, beim 
Import-Schritt "Buchungen zuordnen" später, kann ich aber nicht, wie 
früher gewohnt, das Gegenkonto zu wählen..


Mache ich etwas falsch? Oder ist die Änderung so tatsächlich gewollt?
Ich habe das Problem nach einer Neuinstallation von gnuCash 3.7. Zuvor 
war, wenn ich mich nicht täusche 3.0 im Einsatz.



Vielen Dank für Tipps/Hinweise


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[GNC] Importfunktion geändert? Herkunftskonto

2020-07-21 Thread Paul Neuwirth via gnucash-user

Hallo,

ich habe ein Problem beim Import von CSV-Buchungen.

Ich war es gewohnt über "Datei->Importieren->Buchungen importieren aus 
CSV..." und der Angabe des Formats (Datu, Beschreibung, Buchungstext, 
Einzahlung, Buchungswährung,Konto) und klick auf Weiter für jede Buchung 
das Gegenkonto manuell auswählen zu können.


Nun verlangt der Importassistent zwingend ein Herkunftskonto in der CSV?
"Weiter" ist ausgegraut, "- Bitte wählen Sie eine Herkunftskonto-Spalte 
oder entfernen Sie die anderen Spalten."


Habe zum Test als Herkunftskonto ein Ausgleichskonto gewählt, beim 
Import-Schritt "Buchungen zuordnen" später, kann ich aber nicht, wie 
früher gewohnt, das Gegenkonto zu wählen..


Mache ich etwas falsch? Oder ist die Änderung so tatsächlich gewollt?
Ich habe das Problem nach einer Neuinstallation von gnuCash 3.7. Zuvor 
war, wenn ich mich nicht täusche 3.0 im Einsatz.



Vielen Dank für Tipps/Hinweise


Paul Neuwirth
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Re: [GNC] How to remove or hide certain bills from appearing in the Due Bills Reminder?

2020-07-21 Thread Adrien Monteleone
You should be able to use other AP accounts, but make sure they are of 
generic type Liability, not the special type 'Accounts Payable'. There 
can be only one account with that special type. (Same for AR) It can 
even be a child of AP/AR.


Glad you found a usable work around.

Regards,
Adrien

On 7/21/20 8:57 AM, Fran_3 via gnucash-user wrote:

Thanks Adrien. As always very helpful!
BTW, I attempted to setup a second AP account under Liabilities named "AP Temporary 
Suspended "
- But, when posting it GC won't let me post to that account. - It will however 
allow creating a new account that shows up on the same level as Assets & 
Liabilities...
So, I've decided to un-post the bills in question and re=post them with a date 
way out... as GC will not allow posting a bill without a due date.


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Re: [GNC] Adjusted Trial Balance

2020-07-21 Thread Christopher Lam
The various options in the Trial Balance are very ill-defined. This report
was created in 2004 [1], with an addition of merchandising businesses [2],
but not actually documented anywhere. They have received minor maintenance
fixes only otherwise. So, it would be nice to open a dialogue on what these
mean exactly. Otherwise it will continue to be undocumented, misunderstood,
and perhaps best retired completely.

[1] https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/a107a9af2
[2] https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/259e01d5c


On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 14:13, Ron Gill  wrote:

> Trying to figure out what the best practice is for Adjustment Entries and
> Adjusted Trial Balance is in GnuCash.
>
> My main requirement is to be able to easily produce a (Non-Adjusted) Trial
> Balance and a Adjusted Trial Balance report.
>
> I was thinking of creating a temporary Adjustment Account to hold changes
> and I could restore/delete this account to generate the above report.
>
> Seeking help on best practice for this.
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Re: [GNC] Non-profit loan/grant tracking

2020-07-21 Thread Michael or Penny Novack

On 7/21/2020 9:18 AM, Joshua Ginsberg wrote:



We have a single bank account. This year we received a cash loan and a
grant. Both of them require us to track what expenses the funds
specifically went to pay for. I'm unclear of how to best set this up in
GnuCash.

For grants that don't require tracking, we just co-mingle the funds in our
bank account general funds, but this grant's funds will be actually in our
bank account but expenses using those specific funds needs to be tracked.
For loans that don't require tracking, I know to create a liability account
for the loan and begin it with a transaction between the loan and the bank
account.

But it feels like I need some other account to track the remaining balance
on the funds from the loan/grant.


I can tell you how I did this (bookkeeping for non-profits)

Let's take the grant first. You create a liability for this and an 
income account "grant income". This latter is used when the money 
becomes yours (has been used for an expense authorized by the terms of 
the grant).


When you get the grant, debit the bank account and credit the liability. 
That grant money is not yours yet even though in your bank account. The 
organizations hasn't "earned" it yet.


The transactions recording qualified expenses now become more 
complicated. You debit the expense AND the liability (cancelling that 
much) and you credit the bank account (check used for that expense) AND 
"grant income" (that much now "earned")


For me to tell you how to handle the loan you'll need to supply more 
details. But if this is a loan where the amounts used for the specified 
purpose are forgiven (one of the possibilities)  it's just like that 
grant. Otherwise you need to explain in what sense the loan is 
associated to specific expenses.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Non-profit loan/grant tracking

2020-07-21 Thread Dale Alspach
You can see the transactions from an account along with the subaccounts.
>From the accounts list, select the upper level account, right click, and
choose open subaccounts. If you make a subaccount for the grant or loan
transfers and pay from the subaccount as appropriate you will have an
itemized list of the transactions for the grant or loan.

If that doesn't work for you, you could also transfer funds as needed from
the loan or grant account into the bank account. Each transfer should
contain details of what expenses are  being covered by the transfer.
Basically this is a reimbursement model. This might be rather cumbersome if
there are a lot of transactions.

Dale



On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:22 AM Joshua Ginsberg 
wrote:

> Howdy!
>
> We use GnuCash for the bookkeeping for our non-profit, and I love the
> simplicity and straightforward implementation of double-entry. I'm really
> grateful for how much GnuCash has helped us as we grow.
>
> We're now in a situation I can't figure the best practices around.
>
> We have a single bank account. This year we received a cash loan and a
> grant. Both of them require us to track what expenses the funds
> specifically went to pay for. I'm unclear of how to best set this up in
> GnuCash.
>
> For grants that don't require tracking, we just co-mingle the funds in our
> bank account general funds, but this grant's funds will be actually in our
> bank account but expenses using those specific funds needs to be tracked.
> For loans that don't require tracking, I know to create a liability account
> for the loan and begin it with a transaction between the loan and the bank
> account.
>
> But it feels like I need some other account to track the remaining balance
> on the funds from the loan/grant. I can do a subaccount on our bank
> account, but the ledger balance for the bank account won't match what the
> bank says without doing math every time. I imagine there may be a better
> way.
>
> So yeah - any advice? Thanks so much in advance!
>
> -jag
>
>
> Joshua Ginsberg
> Vice-President & Treasurer
> https://seekhealing.org/
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[GNC] Adjusted Trial Balance

2020-07-21 Thread Ron Gill
Trying to figure out what the best practice is for Adjustment Entries and
Adjusted Trial Balance is in GnuCash.

My main requirement is to be able to easily produce a (Non-Adjusted) Trial
Balance and a Adjusted Trial Balance report.

I was thinking of creating a temporary Adjustment Account to hold changes
and I could restore/delete this account to generate the above report.

Seeking help on best practice for this.
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Re: [GNC] Difficulty with online price retrieval (John Ralls)

2020-07-21 Thread Samantha Payn
   Thank you for your response, John, and I am sorry for the long delay
   but I have had an avalanche of work to do.

   My problem is that when I go to post an invoice the "fetch rate" button
   is greyed out so I cannot use the online currency rate retrieval that I
   used to be able to before I upgraded my hardware.

   After installing the current version of gnucash on my new PC, I clicked
   on "Install Online Price Retrieval" from the Gnucash list in my start
   menu and I have entered the Alfa Vantage API key in my gnucash
   preferences.

   I have checked for the presence of the perl software using the
   Troubleshooting method you directed me to and received the response
   that I should install the Finance::Quote. The only way I have done this
   in the past is by clicking on "Install Online Price Retrieval" from the
   Gnucash list in my start menu and this is what I have done several
   times now. So I have done this again and after a run of code in the cmd
   window the final lines are:

   "C:\Strawberry\perl\bin\perl.exe" -MExtUtils::Command -e cp - -
   examples/dm_zdump blib\script\dm_zdump pl2bat.bat blib\script\dm_dump
   SBECK/Date-Manip-6.82.tar.gz
   C:\STRAWB~1\c\bin\gmake.exe - -OK

   When I look in the Windows list of apps installed it says I have
   installed Strawberry Perl on 3rd July (when I first tried installing it
   on my new PC).

   I am running the latest version of Gnucash and I find that in the help
   window it says

   "Version: 4.0
   Build ID: 4.0+(2020-06-27)
   Finance::Quote: -"

   Please let me know what other information you need in order to be able
   to help me. I am stepping way out of my comfort zone when I enter the
   cmd window but willing to give it a go.

   Best regards

   Samantha

   On 16 July 2020 18:14 John Ralls < [1]jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:

   Samantha,

   Have you tried price retrieval from the command line as explained in
   [2]https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes#Trouble_Shooting? Does
   that work?

   You haven't actually told us exactly what doesn't work. Please
   elaborate.

   Note that trading accounts has nothing to do with it, nor do previously
   created prices. Note that while rates used for transactions are
   recorded in the pricedb to ensure that there's an entry to make reports
   work properly, each foreign currency split has its own exchange rate,
   the ratio between the amount in the foreign currency and the value in
   the home currency, so the only thing you'd affect by clearing the
   pricedb is reports on past dates, especially time series reports.

   You may also enter prices manually as a temporary measure until you get
   online quotes working properly.

   Regards,

   John Ralls

   On Jul 16, 2020, at 5:08 AM, Samantha Payn <
   [3]saman...@boorertranslations.com> wrote:

   Thanks for your comments John and Eric.

   I have again reviewed the gnucash help documentation and cannot see

   where I am going wrong. In addition to having installed Online Price

   Retrieval and entered my API key, I have now also double checked that

   the "use trading accounts" option is checked which it is.

   In the price database window the currencies I use are listed. There is

   an option to delete all previous prices but I presume I don't want to

   do that as they record the currency exchange rates used for each of my

   past transactions.

   I am beginning to think I must take a backward step and use manual

   price entry ... where am I going wrong, when I used to be able to use

   the automatic option and all seems to be set up as before?

   All help gratefully received.

References

   1. mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us
   2. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes#Trouble_Shooting
   3. mailto:saman...@boorertranslations.com
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Re: [GNC] How to remove or hide certain bills from appearing in the Due Bills Reminder?

2020-07-21 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
Thanks Adrien. As always very helpful!
BTW, I attempted to setup a second AP account under Liabilities named "AP 
Temporary Suspended " 
- But, when posting it GC won't let me post to that account. - It will however 
allow creating a new account that shows up on the same level as Assets & 
Liabilities...
So, I've decided to un-post the bills in question and re=post them with a date 
way out... as GC will not allow posting a bill without a due date.

Thanks again for the help !!!
On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 1:55:13 AM EDT, Adrien Monteleone 
 wrote:  
 
 #2 - I forgot to make clear that, no, unchecking the Active box does not 
hide the bill from the Due reminder. You'll have to also unpost it for 
that effect. You can of course re-post later with the original due date 
if you like. The Active checkbox, I think, will only hide the invoice 
from a Find operation.

Regards,
Adrien

On 7/20/20 6:50 PM, Fran_3 via gnucash-user wrote:
>  1 - So to force a posted bill down the list we will have to un-post it, 
>change the due date, and then re-post it... right?
> 2 - And, on a posted bill... what is the "Active" Check box?
> Thanks for the help.

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[GNC] Non-profit loan/grant tracking

2020-07-21 Thread Joshua Ginsberg
Howdy!

We use GnuCash for the bookkeeping for our non-profit, and I love the
simplicity and straightforward implementation of double-entry. I'm really
grateful for how much GnuCash has helped us as we grow.

We're now in a situation I can't figure the best practices around.

We have a single bank account. This year we received a cash loan and a
grant. Both of them require us to track what expenses the funds
specifically went to pay for. I'm unclear of how to best set this up in
GnuCash.

For grants that don't require tracking, we just co-mingle the funds in our
bank account general funds, but this grant's funds will be actually in our
bank account but expenses using those specific funds needs to be tracked.
For loans that don't require tracking, I know to create a liability account
for the loan and begin it with a transaction between the loan and the bank
account.

But it feels like I need some other account to track the remaining balance
on the funds from the loan/grant. I can do a subaccount on our bank
account, but the ledger balance for the bank account won't match what the
bank says without doing math every time. I imagine there may be a better
way.

So yeah - any advice? Thanks so much in advance!

-jag


Joshua Ginsberg
Vice-President & Treasurer
https://seekhealing.org/
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