Re: [GNC] email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.

[Chris Green]

On Thu, Oct 07, 2021 at 07:39:20PM -0400, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:
> 
> > Of course there's Usenet, which doesn't require everyone to connect to
> 
> Usenet is still active?
> I though it died years ago.
> 
That would be my favourite way to communicate.

I'm still active on several Usenet newsgroups, one of the best and
most active is uk.d-i-y.

-- 
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Re: [GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6 still..)

[Doug]

Thanks Alan. Yes, knew that. I am certainly no accountant, but manage to bumble 
along.

 I think it might be possible to set the defaults in the setup file, but 
honestly have not looked. 
What I would like is to be able to define the Financial Year start/Financial 
Year end in setup so
 it always defaults to the current financial year ()which in Australia´s case 
is 1 July to 30 June).

 I wonder how many other countries have non-Calendar year Financial years? I 
guess the UK might copy us 
seeing we seem to copy their laws in our early days.

regards, Doug 


n Sat, 9 Oct 2021 13:32:07 +1100
Alan Hopkins  wrote:

> Hi Doug
> 
> Nice to hear from another Aussie PCLOS & GNUCash user!
> 
> I have the same version of GNC as you (as that's what is in the repo!) - I 
> haven't been using GNC for long but I set the accounting period in the 
> Preferences as Absolute to 1st July 20 to 30 Jun 21 (ie last fin year) and it 
> defaults the reports (Beginning & End of Accounting Period) to the correct 
> dates.  I will need to change that for this fin. year (and those that follow) 
> as it is an absolute setting but I don't see that as problem.
> 
> Another alternative would be to set the dates in the Report Options and then 
> save that report configuration so when you use it the report has the default 
> settings you want.
> 
> But I guess you know all the above being a long-time GNC user!
> 
> My thanks to the GNUCash gurus, facilitators & fixers - GNC is a terrific 
> resource!!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Hop
> 
> On 9/10/21 10:25, Doug wrote:
> Hi,
> >  has anyone changed the default accounting period in the reports window?
> >  Currently they are set to 1 Jan to 31 Dec. Australian Tax year is 1 July 
> > to 30 June.
> > 
> >  I know I can set them report by report, but it would be nice to change the 
> > defaults.
> > 
> >  I am currently using ver 4,6 on Linux (PCLinuxOS, which I have been using 
> > for years & love!)
> > 
> > regards, Doug (Long time Gnucash user & appreciator!)
> > 
> > 
> 


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[GNC] Split Transaction Confusion Again

[Jack Frillman via gnucash-user]

I'm having trouble entering a split transaction for a stock dividend & 
the tax that was withheld.


The stock has a dividend of   $10.13
Tax withheld is   $1.52
This leaves a cash deposit of $8.61 in the parent brokerage account.

How do I enter a split transaction that shows the dividend of $10.13, 
puts the tax of $1.52 into a tax tracking account and adds $8.61 to the 
cash balance in the parent brokerage account?


As with a straight dividend I'm entering the main transaction in the 
parent brokerage account.


No matter which way I try making these entry's I always have an amount 
added to the imbalance account or the $10.13 added to the cash balance.
I have read GNU Cash Documentation on split transactions several times 
and I still can't figure this out.


Thanks.


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Re: [GNC] Split Transaction Confusion Again

[Gyle McCollam]

This would be your entry:

Parent Brokerage Account$8.61
Tax Account  $1.52
Dividend Income Account   $10.63

Hope this helps you and is clear.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Jack Frillman via gnucash-user 
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 9:51 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Split Transaction Confusion Again


I'm having trouble entering a split transaction for a stock dividend &
the tax that was withheld.

The stock has a dividend of   $10.13
Tax withheld is   $1.52
This leaves a cash deposit of $8.61 in the parent brokerage account.

How do I enter a split transaction that shows the dividend of $10.13,
puts the tax of $1.52 into a tax tracking account and adds $8.61 to the
cash balance in the parent brokerage account?

As with a straight dividend I'm entering the main transaction in the
parent brokerage account.

No matter which way I try making these entry's I always have an amount
added to the imbalance account or the $10.13 added to the cash balance.
I have read GNU Cash Documentation on split transactions several times
and I still can't figure this out.

Thanks.


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Re: [GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6 still..)

[Maf. King]

Nothing so simple in the UK the HMRC annual period ends on 5th April each 
year...  

Not the most obvious date, I know. AIUI, It is all to to with a legacy from 
the Roman Empire, with Popes and Kings who thought they were more in charge in 
the year 15-so and so.  (or maybe 13-so and so)

Maf.



On Saturday, 9 October 2021 13:37:22 BST Doug wrote:
> Thanks Alan. Yes, knew that. I am certainly no accountant, but manage to
> bumble along.
> 
>  I think it might be possible to set the defaults in the setup file, but
> honestly have not looked. What I would like is to be able to define the
> Financial Year start/Financial Year end in setup so it always defaults to
> the current financial year ()which in Australia´s case is 1 July to 30
> June).
> 
>  I wonder how many other countries have non-Calendar year Financial years? I
> guess the UK might copy us seeing we seem to copy their laws in our early
> days.
> 
> regards, Doug
> 
> 
> n Sat, 9 Oct 2021 13:32:07 +1100
> 
> Alan Hopkins  wrote:
> > Hi Doug
> > 
> > Nice to hear from another Aussie PCLOS & GNUCash user!
> > 
> > I have the same version of GNC as you (as that's what is in the repo!) - I
> > haven't been using GNC for long but I set the accounting period in the
> > Preferences as Absolute to 1st July 20 to 30 Jun 21 (ie last fin year)
> > and it defaults the reports (Beginning & End of Accounting Period) to the
> > correct dates.  I will need to change that for this fin. year (and those
> > that follow) as it is an absolute setting but I don't see that as
> > problem.
> > 
> > Another alternative would be to set the dates in the Report Options and
> > then save that report configuration so when you use it the report has the
> > default settings you want.
> > 
> > But I guess you know all the above being a long-time GNC user!
> > 
> > My thanks to the GNUCash gurus, facilitators & fixers - GNC is a terrific
> > resource!!
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Hop
> > 
> > On 9/10/21 10:25, Doug wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > >  has anyone changed the default accounting period in the reports window?
> > >  Currently they are set to 1 Jan to 31 Dec. Australian Tax year is 1
> > >  July to 30 June.
> > >  
> > >  I know I can set them report by report, but it would be nice to change
> > >  the defaults.
> > >  
> > >  I am currently using ver 4,6 on Linux (PCLinuxOS, which I have been
> > >  using for years & love!)> > 
> > > regards, Doug (Long time Gnucash user & appreciator!)




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Re: [GNC] OFX - Citi Setup Trouble

[Gyle McCollam]

I had a lot of trouble with Citi as well, But I got it working with the 
following settings:
The Server url has the following added to the end of what you see in the 
screenshot  "interface" minus the quotes so it is 
https://mobilesoa.citi.com/CitiOFXinterface.

The first setup screen which is not shown here has my full name in the USER 
NAME field, m Citi user ID in the USER ID field, and an internet generated 
CLIENT UID.  I don't know if the CLIENT UID is required, but I added it.  I 
don't remember if it worked without it, but I seem to remember reading 
somewhere that CITI required it.  I set this up within the last 2 weeks so the 
setting should work for 
you.[cid:2d2d11b9-a87e-46aa-8797-a0647785ca8c][cid:df7fd88f-dcee-441e-962d-49f33b375019]



Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Steve Welch via gnucash-user 
Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 8:57 PM
To: Gnucash-User 
Subject: [GNC] OFX - Citi Setup Trouble

Firstly, thanks to those who have offered advice already.  I am still trying to 
get my Citi credit card transactions to download and having no success.
I have tried what is in the Wiki, plus Colin’s suggestions and those posted 
previously by Nicholas Rood.  When I request the account list from within the 
wizard, this is the log I get:

20:41:41 Sending request...
20:41:41 Using GnuTLS default ciphers.
20:41:41 TLS: SSL-Ciphers negotiated: TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES-256-GCM:AEAD
20:41:41 Waiting for response...
20:41:41 Parsing response...
20:41:41 Status for signon request: General error (Code 2000, severity "ERROR")
Error other than those specified by the remaining error codes. (Note: Servers 
should provide a more specific error whenever possible. Error code 2000 should 
be reserved for cases in which a more specific code is not available.)
20:41:41 Status for account info request: General error (Code 2000, severity 
"ERROR")
Error other than those specified by the remaining error codes. (Note: Servers 
should provide a more specific error whenever possible. Error code 2000 should 
be reserved for cases in which a more specific code is not available.)
20:41:41 Received account (no bank code)/(no account number) ((no bank 
name)/(no account name))
20:41:41 Operation finished, you can now close this window.

I have checked and double checked the various fields but can find no typos, etc.
I am really at an impasse and about to give up.  Because we use our credit card 
for most transactions, not having a simple, seamless download is a dealbreaker 
for our financial software.

Any further ideas would be most welcome.

Steve
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Re: [GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6 still..)

[Frank H. Ellenberger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter_gravissimas
watch the late #Adoption by not catholic powers.

Am 09.10.21 um 16:23 schrieb Maf. King:
> Nothing so simple in the UK the HMRC annual period ends on 5th April each 
> year...  
> 
> Not the most obvious date, I know. AIUI, It is all to to with a legacy from 
> the Roman Empire, with Popes and Kings who thought they were more in charge 
> in 
> the year 15-so and so.  (or maybe 13-so and so)
> 
> Maf.

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Re: [GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6 still..)

[Fred Bone]

On 09 October 2021 at 23:37, Doug said:

> Thanks Alan. Yes, knew that. I am certainly no accountant, but manage to
> bumble along.
> 
>  I think it might be possible to set the defaults in the setup file, but
>  honestly have not looked. 
> What I would like is to be able to define the Financial Year
> start/Financial Year end in setup so
>  it always defaults to the current financial year ()which in Australia´s
>  case is 1 July to 30 June).
> 
>  I wonder how many other countries have non-Calendar year Financial years?
>  I guess the UK might copy us 
> seeing we seem to copy their laws in our early days.

The UK fiscal year end is the perfectly obvious 5 April. This was of 
course recently(*) adjusted from the original 25 March, being the first 
Quarter Day in the calendar year (the Quarters, naturally, being keyed to 
25 December, Christmas Day).

(*) 1752

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Re: [GNC] OFX - Citi Setup Trouble

[Gyle McCollam]

Steve,
I forgot to mention that you have to log into your CITI account online and 
select user profile, more settings, add desktop apps, add access.  This gives 
you a ten-minute window to complete your setup.  After setup, it did not show 
that I had access in this window, but today it does show Quicken Windows has 
access (not GNU Cash, but they don't show anything other than Quicken because 
that access is what GNU uses.)


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Steve Welch via gnucash-user 
Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 8:57 PM
To: Gnucash-User 
Subject: [GNC] OFX - Citi Setup Trouble

Firstly, thanks to those who have offered advice already.  I am still trying to 
get my Citi credit card transactions to download and having no success.
I have tried what is in the Wiki, plus Colin’s suggestions and those posted 
previously by Nicholas Rood.  When I request the account list from within the 
wizard, this is the log I get:

20:41:41 Sending request...
20:41:41 Using GnuTLS default ciphers.
20:41:41 TLS: SSL-Ciphers negotiated: TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES-256-GCM:AEAD
20:41:41 Waiting for response...
20:41:41 Parsing response...
20:41:41 Status for signon request: General error (Code 2000, severity "ERROR")
Error other than those specified by the remaining error codes. (Note: Servers 
should provide a more specific error whenever possible. Error code 2000 should 
be reserved for cases in which a more specific code is not available.)
20:41:41 Status for account info request: General error (Code 2000, severity 
"ERROR")
Error other than those specified by the remaining error codes. (Note: Servers 
should provide a more specific error whenever possible. Error code 2000 should 
be reserved for cases in which a more specific code is not available.)
20:41:41 Received account (no bank code)/(no account number) ((no bank 
name)/(no account name))
20:41:41 Operation finished, you can now close this window.

I have checked and double checked the various fields but can find no typos, etc.
I am really at an impasse and about to give up.  Because we use our credit card 
for most transactions, not having a simple, seamless download is a dealbreaker 
for our financial software.

Any further ideas would be most welcome.

Steve
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Re: [GNC] Split Transaction Confusion Again

[Jack Frillman via gnucash-user]

Yes it was a big help.
Thanks.

On 10/9/21 10:23 AM, Gyle McCollam wrote:

This would be your entry:

Parent Brokerage Account                $8.61
Tax Account                                      $1.52
Dividend Income Account                                   $10.63

Hope this helps you and is clear.

Thank You,
*Gyle McCollam*

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326Mobile

gmccol...@live.com email


*From:* gnucash-user 
 on behalf of Jack 
Frillman via gnucash-user 

*Sent:* Saturday, October 9, 2021 9:51 AM
*To:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
*Subject:* [GNC] Split Transaction Confusion Again

I'm having trouble entering a split transaction for a stock dividend &
the tax that was withheld.

The stock has a dividend of   $10.13
Tax withheld is   $1.52
This leaves a cash deposit of $8.61 in the parent brokerage account.

How do I enter a split transaction that shows the dividend of $10.13,
puts the tax of $1.52 into a tax tracking account and adds $8.61 to the
cash balance in the parent brokerage account?

As with a straight dividend I'm entering the main transaction in the
parent brokerage account.

No matter which way I try making these entry's I always have an amount
added to the imbalance account or the $10.13 added to the cash balance.
I have read GNU Cash Documentation on split transactions several times
and I still can't figure this out.

Thanks.


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Re: [GNC] OFX - Citi Setup Trouble

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 223, Issue 26

[Scott Brooksby via gnucash-user]

 I have been downloading my transactions from Citibank. I click on the download 
section and then select XSport on the right hand side of the Citibank section. 
I then select ofx and then click export. This downloads the statement for that 
period. I've been go to gnucash and click on import, then import ofx / qfx. And 
bring this up the file to process dialogue and I double click on the statement 
that I just downloaded. It brings up a list of the transactions on that 
statement. I can then double-click on each one and a sign the appropriate 
expense account or other a location for that particular charge. Once everything 
is set 4 all of the items I've been click okay edit populates the account. The 
very first time you do this it will actually ask you which account this 
populates into. I have not yet gotten around to figuring out how to use online 
connections, but this seems to work for me for now.
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  1. Re:  email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.
      (Stan Brown)
  2. Re:  email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.
      (Nate Bargmann)
  3. Re:  Billing Terms Editor not "sticky" (Benjamin Soffer)
  4.  Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6 still..)
      (Doug)
  5.  OFX - Citi Setup Trouble (Steve Welch)
  6. Re:  Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6
      still..) (Alan Hopkins)
  7. Re:  email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.
      (Chris Green)
  8. Re:  Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6
      still..) (Doug)
  9.  Split Transaction Confusion Again (Jack Frillman)
  10. Re:  Split Transaction Confusion Again (Gyle McCollam)
  11. Re:  Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6
      still..) (Maf. King)


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On 2021-10-08 01:16, Gerrit Holl wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 21:42, Jim DeLaHunt  wrote:
> 
>> I predict that we could have a big discussion about the pros and cons of
>> email lists and forums, and we would end up without a resolution; we
>> would discover that no one option works for everyone.
> 
> For what it's worth, there are also ~280 questions on gnucash on
> money.stackexchange.com, a site run by a commercial company (best
> known for Stack Overflow) but with user contributions licensed
> CC-BY-SA.  https://money.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/gnucash
> 
> The Q&A form in general and stackexchange specifically have their own
> pros and cons compared to forums or email; in my opinion, all three
> are complementary (as is chat).

I have a lot of respect for StackExchange. Their system seems to result
in incorrect answers getting corrected fairly quickly. Quite often when
I google a technical question a StackExchange is near the top of results,
and it's nearly always helpful.

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 08:16:10 -0500
From: Nate Bargmann 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.
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* On 2021 08 Oct 06:43 -0500, Robert Heller wrote:
 
> There is also GigiNews (US$4.99/month).

I found https://www.aioe.org/ some years ago which gives access to text
newsgroups and which I've used without issue, though I post very little.

Toward the OP, one nice thing about email and mailing lists such as this
is that the messages are often archived in multiple places.  Web forum
software is often not and depends on there being good backups in place
for disaster recovery.  I have seen Web forums disappear over the years
and all the content with them so I regard them as less trustworthy and
quite ephemeral and ill suited for technical/user discussions where
access to archives years later is useful.

- Nate

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config

[Klaus Dahlke]

Hi Geert,
I was about to do some tests whether any of the below mentioned tweaks 
(adapting XDG_DATA_DIRS, using .gconf/org/gnucash/Gnucash) would help, and if 
not doing an fresh install after removal of gnucash-4.5 or going release by 
release to gnucash-4.8 - but surprisingly, when I installed the freshly 
compiled gnucash-4.8 over the existing gnucash 4.5, gnucash-4.8 starts normal, 
and the configurations is the one as of gnucash-4.5: currency is EUR, register 
colors are default, date format german ...

I did exactly the same procedure as last week except I was using gnucash-4.5 a 
bit since switching back to gnucash-4.5 after the non-successful upgrade. 

In essence: today it worked as it should be, I didn't have to do anything on 
the location of the configuration files or change XDG_DATA_DIRS (is still at $ 
echo $XDG_DATA_DIRS -> /usr/local/share:/usr/share)

I assume that error must have been somehow on my side. 

Best regards
Klaus


On Thu, 07 Oct 2021 14:07:40 +0200
Geert Janssens  wrote:

> Hi David,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. It also works fine on my Fedora 34 box. And at this 
> point I don't see reason yet to believe the intermediate step via 4.7 is 
> required. The bug hunt will hopefully give more details.
> 
> As for the /org/gnucash/GnuCash path, that's a virtual path, not a filesystem 
> one. It's how preferences are organised hierarchically inside GSettings. 
> Every 
> application is supposed to generate the three-component "prefix" consisting 
> of 
> /org// and under that prefix all preferences for 
> that particular application can then be structured. You will find this 
> structure for example by opening dconf-editor on linux systems (provided 
> gnucash is installed in the default prefix /usr or /usr/local; if not, you'll 
> have to manipulate the XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable to include  prefix>/share in the search path).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
> Op donderdag 7 oktober 2021 11:50:46 CEST schreef davidcousen...@gmail.com:
> > Hi Geert,
> > 
> > For your info if it will help diagnose problems on other Linux systems. As
> > far as I cn tell GunCash 4.8 is reading the preferences when they exist on
> > Linux Mint 20.2. I up graded from 4.6 via a patched version of 4.7 and then
> > to 4.8 with a further patch suggested by John. Both 4.7 and 4.8 built from
> > scratch from the downloaded tarball. These still show up under
> > .local/share/gnucash/ for the books reports etc and .config/gnucash for the
> > gtk style sheets.  The file modifications times and dates indicate changes
> > (I deliberately changed a few setting exited and then restarted and then
> > changed them back). I am presuming the /org/gnucash/GnuCash translates to
> > these locations during installation as I cannot find any such directories
> > on my computer.
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > On Thu, 2021-10-07 at 09:29 +0200, Geert Janssens wrote:
> > > Hi Thomas,
> > > 
> > > Klaus hasn't filed a bug yet. If you can, please do.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Geert
> > > 
> > > Op woensdag 6 oktober 2021 16:25:41 CEST schreef boer...@t-online.de:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I am experiencing the same issue coming from 4.6 and upgrading to 4.8
> > > > from
> > > > an OpenSuse Repo. One thing that I have in common with Klaus is that we
> > > > both skipped 4.7
> > > > 
> > > > Indeed in Dconf I can find a new preference path /org/gnucash/GnuCash
> > > > along
> > > > with the old /org/gnucash. However, gnucash 4.8 doesn't seem to take
> > > > care
> > > > of this path. Neither changes in my settings are reflected there nor
> > > > changes done directly in Dconf (e.g. set time format to 24h) have any
> > > > effect. Moreover the default preference for the date format is ISO
> > > > (2021-10-06), while gnucash uses the US format (10/06/2021)
> > > > persistently.
> > > > So it appears to me that gnucash neather reads nor writes from/to the
> > > > new
> > > > preferences path in this situation.
> > > > 
> > > > @Klaus: Did you file that bug already? So it might be worth to add this
> > > > information there.
> > > > 
> > > > Best
> > > > Thomas
> > > > 
> > > > Tue Oct 5 06:21:11 EDT 2021 Geert Janssens geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > This likely means for some reason the preference migration hasn't run.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'd like to figure out why if you're willing to work with me on
> > > > > debugging
> > > > > this. If so, please file a bug so we can track our research there.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Geert
> > > > > 
> > > > > Op maandag 4 oktober 2021 23:06:13 CEST schreef Klaus Dahlke:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I run gnucash 4.5 on ArchLinux and compile gnucash from the sources.
> > > > > > Yesterday I wanted to upgrade/install gnucash 4.8 by:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/klaus -G Ninja ..
> > > > > > ninja
> > > > > > ninja install
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All went smoothly, but when starting gnucash

[GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6 still..)

[flywire]

Hack Financial / Fiscal Year in all Reports -
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2021-October/097880.html
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[GNC] Fw: Prices automatically rounding in price editor (unwanted)

[anobono via gnucash-user]

I searched for an answer to this question unsuccessfully before posting here.

I have recently installed Gnucash 4.6 on Windows 10 and when adding security 
prices in the price editor, the amount rounds to 2 decimals automatically which 
is wrong. Specifically, I type an amount with more than two decimals and if I 
click to add this price or just move the focus away, the interface displays the 
number with only two decimals. Is this a bug or did I do something wrong? I 
went temporarily back to 3.11 because it doesn't have that issue, but i has an 
old bug I was happy to see fixed, so I'd rather have 4.6, but functioning 
normally.

Thanks.
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Re: [GNC] Split Transaction Confusion Again

[Liz Dodd]

On Sat, 9 Oct 2021 11:46:14 -0400
Jack Frillman via gnucash-user  wrote:

> Yes it was a big help.
> Thanks.
> 
> On 10/9/21 10:23 AM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> > This would be your entry:
> >
> > Parent Brokerage Account                $8.61
> > Tax Account                                      $1.52
> > Dividend Income Account                                   $10.63
> >
> > Hope this helps you and is clear.
> >
> > Thank You,
> > *Gyle McCollam*


To avoid having to work this out every year, try making a shceduled
transaction.
Edit out the numbers and put the the instructions in place. 

Attached is how I get my electricity account recorded faster.
Liz
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Re: [GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6 still..)

[prl]

As other posters have said, the UK doesn't follow Australia in the 
definition of the fiscal year (though if they did use the same dates as 
us, it would probably be more accurate to express it the other way around).


There are a wide variety of dates for the fiscal year across the world. 
Some countries have more than one definition, for different parts of the 
economy, e.g. government vs non-government (the UK is one of those 
countries). Afghanistan defines its fiscal year in terms of a 
non-Gregorian calendar.


The tax year usually follows the fiscal year, but not in all jurisdictions.

For lots more information, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year

I think that it would be useful if GnuCash allowed the Accounting Period 
to be set to relative dates in an unspecified year, e.g. for Australia, 
1 Jul to 30 Jun. GnuCash really only caters for fiscal years where the 
fiscal year happens to be the same as the calendar year. According to 
the Wikipedia entry, that's the most common choice, but there are quite 
a lot of countries where it's not the case.


For example: Australia, Canada (for personal/corporate), Hong Kong, 
India, New Zealand (personal/corporate) & UK (different dates for 
government and personal/corporate). And despite fairly close ties 
between Australia and New Zealand in other matters, Australia and New 
Zealand have different fiscal years for personal/corporate use). The USA 
has three different dates, federal, state and personal/corporate, though 
the latter is the calendar year.


Peter

On 9/10/21 23:37, Doug wrote

  I wonder how many other countries have non-Calendar year Financial years? I 
guess the UK might copy us
seeing we seem to copy their laws in our early days.

regards, Doug



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Re: [GNC] Fw: Prices automatically rounding in price editor (unwanted)

[Gyle McCollam]

No, you did nothing wrong.  That is a bug that was fixed in 4.7.  If you don't 
want to upgrade just yet, the "fix" is to hit the enter key after entering the 
number.  That will retain the number of decimals you entered.  It is not the 
best, but it does work, you just have to remember to hit the enter key instead 
of the way you were entering the prices.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of anobono via gnucash-user 
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 8:37 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Fw: Prices automatically rounding in price editor (unwanted)

I searched for an answer to this question unsuccessfully before posting here.

I have recently installed Gnucash 4.6 on Windows 10 and when adding security 
prices in the price editor, the amount rounds to 2 decimals automatically which 
is wrong. Specifically, I type an amount with more than two decimals and if I 
click to add this price or just move the focus away, the interface displays the 
number with only two decimals. Is this a bug or did I do something wrong? I 
went temporarily back to 3.11 because it doesn't have that issue, but i has an 
old bug I was happy to see fixed, so I'd rather have 4.6, but functioning 
normally.

Thanks.
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Re: [GNC] Split Transaction Confusion Again

[Jack Frillman via gnucash-user]

I just bought the stock and I got a dividend and I don't know how often 
I will get them. So setting up a scheduled transaction for it is not 
practical.


The response Gyle sent was the solution what I was trying to do.

Thanks.

On 10/9/21 8:59 PM, Liz Dodd wrote:

On Sat, 9 Oct 2021 11:46:14 -0400
Jack Frillman via gnucash-user  wrote:


Yes it was a big help.
Thanks.

On 10/9/21 10:23 AM, Gyle McCollam wrote:

This would be your entry:

Parent Brokerage Account                $8.61
Tax Account                                      $1.52
Dividend Income Account                                   $10.63

Hope this helps you and is clear.

Thank You,
*Gyle McCollam*


To avoid having to work this out every year, try making a shceduled
transaction.
Edit out the numbers and put the the instructions in place.

Attached is how I get my electricity account recorded faster.
Liz

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Re: [GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6 still..)

[Stan Brown]

On 2021-10-09 18:22, prl wrote:
> GnuCash really only caters for fiscal years where the fiscal year
> happens to be the same as the calendar year. According to the Wikipedia
> entry, that's the most common choice, but there are quite a lot of
> countries where it's not the case.
> 
> For example: Australia, Canada (for personal/corporate), Hong Kong,
> India, New Zealand (personal/corporate) & UK (different dates for
> government and personal/corporate). And despite fairly close ties
> between Australia and New Zealand in other matters, Australia and New
> Zealand have different fiscal years for personal/corporate use). The USA
> has three different dates, federal, state and personal/corporate, though
> the latter is the calendar year.


The US Government fiscal year is 1 Oct through 30 Sept. Individual
states have other fiscal years. Corporations and other businesses can
have any fiscal year they like, for accounting purposes or tax purposes
or both.


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Re: [GNC] Split Transaction Confusion Again

[Christopher Lam]

I think you're recording the dividend into the Brokerage cash account only.
Beware the Advanced portfolio report (and upcoming IFRS average cost
report) will not recognise this dividend because it has no split into the
stock account. So, you'll want to record as follows:

Asset:Broker:Stock 0 STOCK
Asset:Broker:Cash +$8.61
Income:Dividend -$10.13
Expenses:Taxes:Tax Withheld +$1.52


On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 at 02:13, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

>
> I just bought the stock and I got a dividend and I don't know how often
> I will get them. So setting up a scheduled transaction for it is not
> practical.
>
> The response Gyle sent was the solution what I was trying to do.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 10/9/21 8:59 PM, Liz Dodd wrote:
> > On Sat, 9 Oct 2021 11:46:14 -0400
> > Jack Frillman via gnucash-user  wrote:
> >
> >> Yes it was a big help.
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> On 10/9/21 10:23 AM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> >>> This would be your entry:
> >>>
> >>> Parent Brokerage Account$8.61
> >>> Tax Account  $1.52
> >>> Dividend Income Account   $10.63
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps you and is clear.
> >>>
> >>> Thank You,
> >>> *Gyle McCollam*
> >
> > To avoid having to work this out every year, try making a shceduled
> > transaction.
> > Edit out the numbers and put the the instructions in place.
> >
> > Attached is how I get my electricity account recorded faster.
> > Liz
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Re: [GNC] Split Transaction Confusion Again

[Kevin Buckley]

On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 at 10:14, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
 wrote:
>
> I just bought the stock and I got a dividend and I don't know how often
> I will get them. So setting up a scheduled transaction for it is not
> practical.

You might like to think of scheduled transaction LIz describes
merely as a template.

You don't have to a scheduled transactions enabled, so it could
just sit there, as a template and/or with a far future next date,
until you needed it.

Of course, the TXN completion feature allows for a duplication
of a previous entry when entering the next, however, if you are in
the habit of creating new XML files, then copying the scheduled
transaction block into a new file gives you access to your "templates"
from the off.
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[GNC] Import CSV account names matching problems

[Stephan Schiffels via gnucash-user]

Dear all,

I have a CSV with thousands of transactions from my checking account that I’ve 
generated from another software. I have prepared and curated it such that in 
principle it contains all information needed for Gnucash to import the 
transactions with the correct expense and income accounts. In particular, I 
have created a column with the exact full expense and income account names used 
in Gnucash.

Here is a fake bit of the transactions file:

Date,Description,Account,Withdrawal,Deposit
2021-01-01,blabla,Expense:Groceries,50.00,0.00
2021-01-02,blabla,Income:Salary,0.00,3000.00
2021-01-03,blabla,Expense:Car:Gasoline,40.00,0.00

And so on. So the third column actually contains the exact and full account 
name in Gnucash.

When I import that file with the Import CSV wizard, and select the third column 
to the Account, then gnucash wants me to match all these account names with its 
own account names , despite the fact that I’ve already chosen the exact account 
names. Why is that? Is there no way I can prepare a CSV file in a way that 
gnucash understands exactly from where (or to where) it needs to book a 
transaction? I mean, I really appreciate the fact that it can infer the account 
reasonably well, and that it memories previous import actions. But basically 
what I want is much simpler: I don’t want inference or any guessing, I just 
want to import an exact sequence of transactions where I specify the full 
account names in the CSV file.

Thanks,
Stephan
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Re: [GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6 still..)

[Doug]

Thanks, that is the type of setting I want, but the documentation says it all:
to quote:
I've been using this hack which changes the definition of current and
previous year in reports to start 1 July. It will be overwritten each time
a new version of GnuCash is installed and it's unlikely to work with the
next major release.
(end)

 I feel what is needed is for it to be a part of the configuration settings 
window.

 Until implemented. I will just set the dates for each report. I am certainly 
no programmer

regards, Doug




On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:15:51 +1100
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> Hack Financial / Fiscal Year in all Reports -
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2021-October/097880.html



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