Re: [GNC] Possible to display two account registers on screen?

[Art Chimes]

Thanks to Stan, Dan, and Liz for the suggestions. I'm going to play around
with these tomorrow, but I have to say that I always like to find
"lesser-known features," so I'll probably try Stan's first.

I failed to specify my OS (Window 10) and GnuCash version (4.9), for which
I apologize.

I'm assuming that Liz is suggesting that I open the *.gnucash file (open
with > gnucash) to get the second instance of the program running. Let me
know if that's not right.

Thanks again,
Art

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:23 PM Stan Brown 
wrote:

>
> On 2022-02-03 14:02, Art Chimes wrote:
> > I'm trying to clean up some issues with an import-gone-bad which left
> > me with two accounts for the same mutual fund. There are, I think,
> > some duplicate transactions and others that appear in only one of the
> > two accounts, and I want to consolidate this. It will simplify matters
> > and speed up the process if I can see both accounts side by side. I
> > know I can print up a transaction report, and use that as a reference,
> > but is it possible to display the two accounts — GnuFund GNUFX and
> > GnuFund GNUCX — on screen?
> >
> > If not, is it a feature GnuCash should have or is it just me?
>
> Hi, Art!
>
> One of GnuCash's lesser-known features makes it easy to do what you
> want. And you don't have to open the data file twice.
>
> Bring up one of the two registers, then click Window » New Window with
> Page. That register will be moved to a "floating" window separate from
> the main GC window. Then you can bring up the other register in the main
> GC window.
>
> You can edit either register, but don't try to edit one register while
> there's an incomplete transaction in the other register.
>
> --
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] How to handle multiple entries of multiply reconciled entries

[Greg Feneis]

Duplicate transactions could happen if the user isn't carefully reviewing
what the matcher has cooked up during importing of account data from the FI
to GnuCash. EG if I import credit card data, payments to my credit card are
automatically attributed to my checking account.  Then, If I import data
from my checking account data, a failure in matching promotes the same
transaction to be added again because the existing transaction isn't
matched to the transaction being imported.  The matcher's automation is
good for the majority of the work, but the user still needs to review its
work and occasionally correct things.  Anyway, perhaps a scenario like this
is causing your duplicates?




Kind regards,

Greg Feneis




On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 8:09 AM Alan A Holmes 
wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> Did you take a copy of the database before you upgraded to version 4.9. If
> so you could take a copy of this backup and open that in version 4.9, which
> might tell you if the corruption existed before upgrading to version 4.9.
>
> Do you have anyway of finding out which version you had before version
> 4.9? Was it another flatpack version, or was it the version as part of
> Ubuntu 20.04 LTS? That version might still be available on your machine, or
> you could re-install that version, which would allow you to look at any
> backup copy before upgrading to version 4.9 in that version to see if the
> corruption existed.
>
> You could also look at any/all backup copy taken automatically by version
> 4.9 to see if the corruption exists. This depends on how many days of
> backups/logs you have specified should be kept in the settings. This might
> show when the corruption first started.
>
> If you can find a backup copy that isn't corrupted then you could start
> with that copy and then either manually enter all transactions since then,
> or use the log files created since then to re-apply a subset of
> transactions (I think I remember a thread somewhere that said you can be
> selective in which transactions to re-apply).
>
>
> Alan A Holmes
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user  alanaholmes.me...@gnucash.org> On Behalf Of Jeff
> Sent: 03 February 2022 07:43
> To: Gnucash userlist 
> Subject: [GNC] How to handle multiple entries of multiply reconciled
> entries
>
> How I did this is beyond me, somehow I confused GNC to let it happen or
> had a data corruption when the journal was improperly saved (power outage,
> GNC lost a poker game, thought it was Quirken, etc).  I use uncompressed
> XML on Ubuntu 20.04LTS.
>
> I have discovered multiple (dozens) of transactions that are duplicates in
> several registers but; reconciled to the wrong accounts.  I am not sure of
> the easiest and proper way to correct them.
>
> Example of the simplest ones are:  using Check 101, Cash, salary.
>
> 01/01/10 chk 101 -> Cash -> chk 101 reconciled
>
> 01/01/10 chk 101 -> salary -> salary reconciled
>
> These are posted as 2 entirely separate transactions, in the same
> register, but are supposed to be only one transaction:
>
> 01/01/10 chk 101 -> salary -> both reconciled
>
> As a result my current balance is now off by off by over $4,000.
>
> And the real kicker, is that these errors now go back 3 years in this
> journal.  I know these errors did not exist prior to FlatPak 4.9, not sure
> which version I upgraded from to 4.9.  Plus they would have shown up when I
> did reports for taxes and income expense statements last year.
>
> Suggestions, besides burning more midnight oil than this old man has left,
> other than to delete all of them and enter all of them correctly as I find
> them.  I'm in tax time crunch here.
>
> --
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Re: [GNC] Possible to display two account registers on screen?

[Chris Good]

Message: 10
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2022 17:17:03 -0500
From: Dan Black 
To: , , Liz

Subject: Re: [GNC] Possible to display two account registers on
screen?
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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"

If the only thing in the second account is your messed up import, you can 
delete that account and have it put the transactions in the original 
account. Then remove the duplicates.


Dan

On February 3, 2022 5:08:53 PM Liz  wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 17:02:22 -0500
> Art Chimes  wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to clean up some issues with an import-gone-bad which left
>> me with two accounts for the same mutual fund. There are, I think,
>> some duplicate transactions and others that appear in only one of the
>> two accounts, and I want to consolidate this. It will simplify matters
>> and speed up the process if I can see both accounts side by side. I
>> know I can print up a transaction report, and use that as a reference,
>> but is it possible to display the two accounts ? GnuFund GNUFX and
>> GnuFund GNUCX ? on screen?
>>
>> If not, is it a feature GnuCash should have or is it just me?
>>
>> Thank you
>
> You can open multiple copies of a file.
> You will get a warning dialogue.
> At that point, choose "read only" for the second one.
>
> Then you are reasonably safe, read from one, edit the other.
>
> Liz

Hi Art,

This is already available.
Use the options under the Windows menu.

New Window: open a new window and from there you can open the register you
want
Or
New Window with Page: will open the current tab in a new window

Regards, Chris Good



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Re: [GNC] Canadian Mortgage

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 2/3/2022 2:51 PM, David G. Pickett via gnucash-user wrote:

.. My last code change at Bank of America was to add a very tiny bit to 
balance transfer fees so that cent was not lost, not to satisfy the bank, but 
to satisfy testers validating a huge software update.


LOL  and among other things, I used to calculate "fuzz" values* at 
MassMutual. Similar fun to do.


Michael D Novack

* "fuzz" is the amount (the maximum cumulative error from all the 
various rounding in different places) so can do the comparison for equality


If AmountA < AmountB + fuzz and AmountA > AmountB - fuzz then consider 
AmountA = AmountB ... they of course will rarely be EXACTLY equal as not 
calculated exactly the same way.



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Re: [GNC] Managing multiple vehicles

[davidcousens49]

Fernando,

The purpose you are using the information for will determine the optimal
structure of the chart of accounts. Some information will be primarily for
taxation and business records and other information you will likely use
primarily for management purposes. How you access and use that information will
be another factor - do you need formal reports or just need to look at the data.

It is likely you will need to record depreciation of the vehicles as assets for
tax purposes which would be best done with separate asset sub accounts for each
vehicle.

For the expenses you could create a sub account structure for each type of
expense under a subaccount for each vehicle or for each type of expense have a
sub-account for each vehicle. I personally 
would favour the former as it would allow you to see what each vehicle is
costing you and help with the decisions to replace vehicle.

The alternative of attaching tags in the description field associated with each
vehicle has the disadvantage that AFAIK there is no filtering on such tags
available in the report structures, whereas you can select the number of levels
and which accounts are included which would enable reports to be setup for each
vehicle.  You can use the Edit->Find menu option to search for all transactions
containing a specific tag and use the search results transferred to a
spreadsheet as the basis for a custom report however but there is more work and
it has to be repeated each time you want a report.

David Cousens

On Thu, 2022-02-03 at 16:41 -0300, Fernando Castro wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I'm having a rather intense discussion with a friend on a topic that might
> be common knowledge to most people with accounting experience, and since we
> are both newbies on accounting and GnuCash, I decided to ask around.
> 
> We are working on a GnuCash file to keep up with expenses and incomes of a
> farm. This farm has over 10 vehicles that we'd like to keep track of gas,
> maintenance and tax expenses. From my point of view creating accounts and
> subaccounts for this (no matter the hierarchy you chose) would be
> unmanageable and full of redundancy. This also represents only a small
> fraction of the farm's finance, but it is important being able to produce a
> chart with gas expenses for each vehicle.
> 
> I've read that using other softwares one can benefit from "category" to
> better filter the information you want and create reports, I've tried using
> the description field for that using a simple structure like Expenses:Gas
> and placing the vehicle details as description but it just doesn't work, or
> maybe I'm doing something wrong?
> 
> I've also considered making accounts for the vehicles as assets, but
> honestly I have no idea if this would be a viable solution and even correct
> from an accounting point of view...
> 
> Does anyone have any tips on how to go about it?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Fernando
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Re: [GNC] Managing multiple vehicles

[Michael or Penny Novack]

I've read that using other softwares one can benefit from "category" to
better filter the information you want and create reports, I've tried using
the description field for that using a simple structure like Expenses:Gas
and placing the vehicle details as description but it just doesn't work, or
maybe I'm doing something wrong?

I've also considered making accounts for the vehicles as assets, but
honestly I have no idea if this would be a viable solution and even correct
from an accounting point of view...

Well first of all, the farm equipment definitely part of your fixed 
assets (equipment would be a major division of fixed assets). This is 
especially true for the long lived units, which in addition to their 
normal depreciation might have major "rebuilds" extending their life. << 
and this IS "standard accounting".


Might I humbly suggest you try to find in addition to a standard 
"introduction to accounting text" an "accounting for the farm" text.


Standard/traditional accounting only allows ONE hierarchy for the CoA 
leaving you the problem of account selection for the reports in which 
you want this differently. THAT is what those packages which off the 
extension "category" are really doing, letting you set up in advance 
this selection of accounts. It is simply a different way of doing 
"account selection" (in advance instead of for each report where you 
want selection). You will probably want to look at how you can save reports.


Also you might want to consider "not everything in one book". In other 
words, main set of books for the farm as a whole but treating various 
parts of the farm operation as if they were separate businesses owed by 
the farm. That could make it easier to compare the profitability of 
operation A with operation B, etc.


Michael D Novack

PS: It's been at least 40 years since I did any farm accounting, so no, 
cant be of practical help. GET TEXT(s)



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Re: [GNC] Possible to display two account registers on screen?

[Stan Brown]

On 2022-02-03 14:02, Art Chimes wrote:
> I'm trying to clean up some issues with an import-gone-bad which left
> me with two accounts for the same mutual fund. There are, I think,
> some duplicate transactions and others that appear in only one of the
> two accounts, and I want to consolidate this. It will simplify matters
> and speed up the process if I can see both accounts side by side. I
> know I can print up a transaction report, and use that as a reference,
> but is it possible to display the two accounts — GnuFund GNUFX and
> GnuFund GNUCX — on screen?
> 
> If not, is it a feature GnuCash should have or is it just me?

Hi, Art!

One of GnuCash's lesser-known features makes it easy to do what you
want. And you don't have to open the data file twice.

Bring up one of the two registers, then click Window » New Window with
Page. That register will be moved to a "floating" window separate from
the main GC window. Then you can bring up the other register in the main
GC window.

You can edit either register, but don't try to edit one register while
there's an incomplete transaction in the other register.

-- 
Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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[GNC] Income (P/L) Statements Lack Expense Data

[Al Maloney]

Using version 4.9-1 on macOS 10.14.6 or 12.2

When I try to produce an Income Statement or a Profit & Loss Statement the
report shows data for Income only. There is no Expense data. (Both of these
sets of data show in the report for Account Summary.)

Under Options the default is to Income only. When I manually add Expenses,
they do not show in the report.

Where do I go from here?

Al Maloney
Velox Versutus Vigilans
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Re: [GNC] Possible to display two account registers on screen?

[Dan Black]

If the only thing in the second account is your messed up import, you can 
delete that account and have it put the transactions in the original 
account. Then remove the duplicates.



Dan

On February 3, 2022 5:08:53 PM Liz  wrote:


On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 17:02:22 -0500
Art Chimes  wrote:


I'm trying to clean up some issues with an import-gone-bad which left
me with two accounts for the same mutual fund. There are, I think,
some duplicate transactions and others that appear in only one of the
two accounts, and I want to consolidate this. It will simplify matters
and speed up the process if I can see both accounts side by side. I
know I can print up a transaction report, and use that as a reference,
but is it possible to display the two accounts — GnuFund GNUFX and
GnuFund GNUCX — on screen?

If not, is it a feature GnuCash should have or is it just me?

Thank you


You can open multiple copies of a file.
You will get a warning dialogue.
At that point, choose "read only" for the second one.

Then you are reasonably safe, read from one, edit the other.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] Possible to display two account registers on screen?

[Liz]

On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 17:02:22 -0500
Art Chimes  wrote:

> I'm trying to clean up some issues with an import-gone-bad which left
> me with two accounts for the same mutual fund. There are, I think,
> some duplicate transactions and others that appear in only one of the
> two accounts, and I want to consolidate this. It will simplify matters
> and speed up the process if I can see both accounts side by side. I
> know I can print up a transaction report, and use that as a reference,
> but is it possible to display the two accounts — GnuFund GNUFX and
> GnuFund GNUCX — on screen?
> 
> If not, is it a feature GnuCash should have or is it just me?
> 
> Thank you

You can open multiple copies of a file.
You will get a warning dialogue.
At that point, choose "read only" for the second one.

Then you are reasonably safe, read from one, edit the other.

Liz
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[GNC] Possible to display two account registers on screen?

[Art Chimes]

I'm trying to clean up some issues with an import-gone-bad which left
me with two accounts for the same mutual fund. There are, I think,
some duplicate transactions and others that appear in only one of the
two accounts, and I want to consolidate this. It will simplify matters
and speed up the process if I can see both accounts side by side. I
know I can print up a transaction report, and use that as a reference,
but is it possible to display the two accounts — GnuFund GNUFX and
GnuFund GNUCX — on screen?

If not, is it a feature GnuCash should have or is it just me?

Thank you
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Re: [GNC] Migrating from Linux OS to windows

[davidcousens49]

Richard,

The only file you absolutely need to copy is the main data file.  Copy it to a
suitable location on WIndows and use file open to open it.

The following wiki page https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations ha
s information about where the configuration information is stored in both
Windows and Linux systems. A couple of paragraphs down there are links to
diagrams showing the locations on each system which may be useful.  

The user preference information is stored completely differently on Windows (in
the Registry) and Linux (using gsettings) so there may not be a way of simply
copying it from one to the other. If you have Windows and Linux on different
machines, it may be easiest to open GnuCash on both and run the Edit Preferences
dialog on both and manually copy the settings from one to the other.

David Cousens


On Thu, 2022-02-03 at 15:35 -0500, Richard E. Barmann wrote:
> I have been trying to get the migration done for a week ore more. My 
> question. Do I have to clear all of the gnucash 4.9 before I can migrate 
> the older version into windows.I am trying to carry on with the same 
> numbers and style as I had in the Linux OS.Thank you for any help.
> 
> Thank you for any advice.
> 
> Richard Barmann
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[GNC] Migrating from Linux OS to windows

[Richard E. Barmann]

I have been trying to get the migration done for a week ore more. My 
question. Do I have to clear all of the gnucash 4.9 before I can migrate 
the older version into windows.I am trying to carry on with the same 
numbers and style as I had in the Linux OS.Thank you for any help.


Thank you for any advice.

Richard Barmann

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[GNC] Managing multiple vehicles

[Fernando Castro]

Hello everyone,

I'm having a rather intense discussion with a friend on a topic that might
be common knowledge to most people with accounting experience, and since we
are both newbies on accounting and GnuCash, I decided to ask around.

We are working on a GnuCash file to keep up with expenses and incomes of a
farm. This farm has over 10 vehicles that we'd like to keep track of gas,
maintenance and tax expenses. From my point of view creating accounts and
subaccounts for this (no matter the hierarchy you chose) would be
unmanageable and full of redundancy. This also represents only a small
fraction of the farm's finance, but it is important being able to produce a
chart with gas expenses for each vehicle.

I've read that using other softwares one can benefit from "category" to
better filter the information you want and create reports, I've tried using
the description field for that using a simple structure like Expenses:Gas
and placing the vehicle details as description but it just doesn't work, or
maybe I'm doing something wrong?

I've also considered making accounts for the vehicles as assets, but
honestly I have no idea if this would be a viable solution and even correct
from an accounting point of view...

Does anyone have any tips on how to go about it?

Regards,

Fernando
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Re: [GNC] Updates

[Rhonda Anderson]

Yes, I  found that file and was able to point the application to that file
once I had done the upgrade.  It did not automatically find it, but all my
data is there and it's working fine.

And yes, I'm a little OCD about saving, lol.

Thank you for the assistance, greatly appreciated!

Rhonda

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:22 PM Fred Bone  wrote:

> On 03 February 2022 at 13:57, Rhonda Anderson said:
>
> > Ok, I did find these files in my C: drive, so I should choose the most
> > recent "GnuCash Financial Data" file after doing the upgrade? [image:
> > image.png]
>
> There should be one called just "GnuCashAccounts" (its full name being
> that plus ".gnucash", as you would see if Windows wasn't being so
> "helpful"). The ones in your screenshot are the backups that Gnucash
> takes every time you save the file (and also when you exit the program).
> By the look of it you are saving just about every time you make a change
> (I see 1:18, 1:36, 1:39).
>
> The ones described as "text document" have a filetype ".log" and are the
> record of every change you make.
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Updates

[Fred Bone]

On 03 February 2022 at 13:57, Rhonda Anderson said:

> Ok, I did find these files in my C: drive, so I should choose the most
> recent "GnuCash Financial Data" file after doing the upgrade? [image:
> image.png]

There should be one called just "GnuCashAccounts" (its full name being 
that plus ".gnucash", as you would see if Windows wasn't being so 
"helpful"). The ones in your screenshot are the backups that Gnucash 
takes every time you save the file (and also when you exit the program). 
By the look of it you are saving just about every time you make a change 
(I see 1:18, 1:36, 1:39).

The ones described as "text document" have a filetype ".log" and are the 
record of every change you make.


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Re: [GNC] Canadian Mortgage

[David G. Pickett via gnucash-user]

Banks here cannot round up (charge above the contracted/advertised rate), so 
their calculations are truncated.  However, many are lured into using computer 
binary floating point numbers to do money (Sybase, SQL Server), and it can lose 
a tiny fraction of a cent, and so lose the last cent (1.0 / 3.0 = 
. * 3 = ., which truncates to 0).  My last code 
change at Bank of America was to add a very tiny bit to balance transfer fees 
so that cent was not lost, not to satisfy the bank, but to satisfy testers 
validating a huge software update.

Interest calculations are usually the sum of all daily balances * interest rate 
/ count of days, truncated down so they do not charge more than advertised, 
maybe a penny short.  Good luck programming all the possible variations in the 
real world: a) rounding up/down by any of several rounding rules (see wiki), b) 
truncation (convert to integer) blindly, or c) adding a tiny bit before 
truncating to the now fractionally perfect sum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding

Good luck!  I just enter the number they compute.
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Re: [GNC] Updates

[Rhonda Anderson]

Ok, I did find these files in my C: drive, so I should choose the most
recent "GnuCash Financial Data" file after doing the upgrade?
[image: image.png]

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 12:08 PM Alan A Holmes 
wrote:

> You should only have 1 GnuCash file, called “yourname”.gnucash, and lots
> of backup files (“yourname”.mmddhhmmdd.gnucash) and log files
> (“yourname”.mmddhhmmdd.log) in the folder where you originally
> specified they be stored. If you can’t find that do a search on your file
> system for “yourname”.gnucash using File Explorer or the search icon on the
> taskbar.
>
>
>
>
>
> Alan A Holmes
>
>
>
> *From:* Rhonda Anderson 
> *Sent:* 03 February 2022 16:34
> *To:* Alan A Holmes 
> *Cc:* Derek Atkins ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Updates
>
>
>
> Thank you Alan.
>
>
>
> Would I then just choose the most recent GnuCash Financial Data file?  I
> apologize, as I am not a very technical person.
>
>
>
> Rhonda
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 11:15 AM Alan A Holmes 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Rhonda,
>
> Is this simply an issue with GnuCash not remembering the file/s previously?
> If so then you can use File->Open to locate the GnuCash file you want, and
> it should then remember it on future occasions.
>
> There have been similar threads recently, and this has usually been the
> problem.
>
> Windows programs can/do occasionally forget the list of previously opened
> files, if a malware scanning app has been used. Some of these apps can
> occasionally clear this type of thing if it's stored in the windows
> registry
> or some easily identified other location.
>
>
> Alan A Holmes
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user
>  On Behalf Of
> Rhonda Anderson
> Sent: 03 February 2022 14:16
> To: Derek Atkins 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Updates
>
> Is there anyone else out there who can help me with this issue?
>
> Thanks,
> Rhonda
>
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> wrote:
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> > I recently upgraded to Windows 11, but I was having this problem
> > before that.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:30 PM Derek Atkins  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Fri, January 28, 2022 12:24 pm, Rhonda Anderson wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > When I have attempted to install the last 3 updates, my data is not
> >> > carrying forward.  It opens as a brand new template, completely blank.
> >> I
> >> > have to go back and re-install version 4.6.
> >> >
> >> > Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
> >>
> >> What OS/Distro are you using?
> >>
> >> 4.current should be able to read 4.6 data files just fine.
> >>
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Rhonda
> >>
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> >>
> >> -derek
> >>
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[GNC] Reconciliation conflict while editing split in account/sub-account being reconciled.

[Stephen M. Butler]

I just filed bug 798444 
 describing a 
non-detected conflict between editing a split (setting the cleared flag) 
and reconciliation on that account (or it's parent) where the reconcile 
status was cleared after reconciliation finished.


I didn't realize that setting flag hadn't been committed before starting 
reconciliation.  This may catch users off guard and be the cause of why 
some splits "lose" their reconciliation flag.


--Steve

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Re: [GNC] Updates

[Alan A Holmes]

You should only have 1 GnuCash file, called “yourname”.gnucash, and lots of 
backup files (“yourname”.mmddhhmmdd.gnucash) and log files 
(“yourname”.mmddhhmmdd.log) in the folder where you originally specified 
they be stored. If you can’t find that do a search on your file system for 
“yourname”.gnucash using File Explorer or the search icon on the taskbar.

 

 

Alan A Holmes

 

From: Rhonda Anderson  
Sent: 03 February 2022 16:34
To: Alan A Holmes 
Cc: Derek Atkins ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Updates

 

Thank you Alan.

 

Would I then just choose the most recent GnuCash Financial Data file?  I 
apologize, as I am not a very technical person.

 

Rhonda

 

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 11:15 AM Alan A Holmes mailto:gnuc...@alanaholmes.me.uk> > wrote:

Hi Rhonda,

Is this simply an issue with GnuCash not remembering the file/s previously?
If so then you can use File->Open to locate the GnuCash file you want, and
it should then remember it on future occasions.

There have been similar threads recently, and this has usually been the
problem.

Windows programs can/do occasionally forget the list of previously opened
files, if a malware scanning app has been used. Some of these apps can
occasionally clear this type of thing if it's stored in the windows registry
or some easily identified other location.


Alan A Holmes

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
mailto:alanaholmes.me...@gnucash.org> > On Behalf Of
Rhonda Anderson
Sent: 03 February 2022 14:16
To: Derek Atkins mailto:de...@ihtfp.com> >
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org  
Subject: Re: [GNC] Updates

Is there anyone else out there who can help me with this issue?

Thanks,
Rhonda


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> I recently upgraded to Windows 11, but I was having this problem 
> before that.
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:30 PM Derek Atkins   > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Fri, January 28, 2022 12:24 pm, Rhonda Anderson wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > When I have attempted to install the last 3 updates, my data is not 
>> > carrying forward.  It opens as a brand new template, completely blank.
>> I
>> > have to go back and re-install version 4.6.
>> >
>> > Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
>>
>> What OS/Distro are you using?
>>
>> 4.current should be able to read 4.6 data files just fine.
>>
>> > Thanks,
>> > Rhonda
>>
>> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>>
>> -derek
>>
>> --
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>>de...@ihtfp.com   www.ihtfp.com 
>>  
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Re: [GNC] Updates

[Rhonda Anderson]

Thank you Alan.

Would I then just choose the most recent GnuCash Financial Data file?  I
apologize, as I am not a very technical person.

Rhonda

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 11:15 AM Alan A Holmes 
wrote:

> Hi Rhonda,
>
> Is this simply an issue with GnuCash not remembering the file/s previously?
> If so then you can use File->Open to locate the GnuCash file you want, and
> it should then remember it on future occasions.
>
> There have been similar threads recently, and this has usually been the
> problem.
>
> Windows programs can/do occasionally forget the list of previously opened
> files, if a malware scanning app has been used. Some of these apps can
> occasionally clear this type of thing if it's stored in the windows
> registry
> or some easily identified other location.
>
>
> Alan A Holmes
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user
>  On Behalf Of
> Rhonda Anderson
> Sent: 03 February 2022 14:16
> To: Derek Atkins 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Updates
>
> Is there anyone else out there who can help me with this issue?
>
> Thanks,
> Rhonda
>
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> > before that.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:30 PM Derek Atkins  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Fri, January 28, 2022 12:24 pm, Rhonda Anderson wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > When I have attempted to install the last 3 updates, my data is not
> >> > carrying forward.  It opens as a brand new template, completely blank.
> >> I
> >> > have to go back and re-install version 4.6.
> >> >
> >> > Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
> >>
> >> What OS/Distro are you using?
> >>
> >> 4.current should be able to read 4.6 data files just fine.
> >>
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Rhonda
> >>
> >> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> >> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> >>
> >> -derek
> >>
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Re: [GNC] Updates

[Alan A Holmes]

Hi Rhonda,

Is this simply an issue with GnuCash not remembering the file/s previously?
If so then you can use File->Open to locate the GnuCash file you want, and
it should then remember it on future occasions.

There have been similar threads recently, and this has usually been the
problem.

Windows programs can/do occasionally forget the list of previously opened
files, if a malware scanning app has been used. Some of these apps can
occasionally clear this type of thing if it's stored in the windows registry
or some easily identified other location.


Alan A Holmes

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
 On Behalf Of
Rhonda Anderson
Sent: 03 February 2022 14:16
To: Derek Atkins 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Updates

Is there anyone else out there who can help me with this issue?

Thanks,
Rhonda


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On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:43 PM Rhonda Anderson  wrote:

> I recently upgraded to Windows 11, but I was having this problem 
> before that.
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:30 PM Derek Atkins  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Fri, January 28, 2022 12:24 pm, Rhonda Anderson wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > When I have attempted to install the last 3 updates, my data is not 
>> > carrying forward.  It opens as a brand new template, completely blank.
>> I
>> > have to go back and re-install version 4.6.
>> >
>> > Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
>>
>> What OS/Distro are you using?
>>
>> 4.current should be able to read 4.6 data files just fine.
>>
>> > Thanks,
>> > Rhonda
>>
>> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>>
>> -derek
>>
>> --
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Re: [GNC] How to handle multiple entries of multiply reconciled entries

[Alan A Holmes]

Hi Jeff,

Did you take a copy of the database before you upgraded to version 4.9. If so 
you could take a copy of this backup and open that in version 4.9, which might 
tell you if the corruption existed before upgrading to version 4.9.

Do you have anyway of finding out which version you had before version 4.9? Was 
it another flatpack version, or was it the version as part of Ubuntu 20.04 LTS? 
That version might still be available on your machine, or you could re-install 
that version, which would allow you to look at any backup copy before upgrading 
to version 4.9 in that version to see if the corruption existed.

You could also look at any/all backup copy taken automatically by version 4.9 
to see if the corruption exists. This depends on how many days of backups/logs 
you have specified should be kept in the settings. This might show when the 
corruption first started.

If you can find a backup copy that isn't corrupted then you could start with 
that copy and then either manually enter all transactions since then, or use 
the log files created since then to re-apply a subset of transactions (I think 
I remember a thread somewhere that said you can be selective in which 
transactions to re-apply).


Alan A Holmes

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  
On Behalf Of Jeff
Sent: 03 February 2022 07:43
To: Gnucash userlist 
Subject: [GNC] How to handle multiple entries of multiply reconciled entries

How I did this is beyond me, somehow I confused GNC to let it happen or had a 
data corruption when the journal was improperly saved (power outage, GNC lost a 
poker game, thought it was Quirken, etc).  I use uncompressed XML on Ubuntu 
20.04LTS.

I have discovered multiple (dozens) of transactions that are duplicates in 
several registers but; reconciled to the wrong accounts.  I am not sure of the 
easiest and proper way to correct them.

Example of the simplest ones are:  using Check 101, Cash, salary.

01/01/10 chk 101 -> Cash -> chk 101 reconciled

01/01/10 chk 101 -> salary -> salary reconciled

These are posted as 2 entirely separate transactions, in the same register, but 
are supposed to be only one transaction:

01/01/10 chk 101 -> salary -> both reconciled

As a result my current balance is now off by off by over $4,000.

And the real kicker, is that these errors now go back 3 years in this journal.  
I know these errors did not exist prior to FlatPak 4.9, not sure which version 
I upgraded from to 4.9.  Plus they would have shown up when I did reports for 
taxes and income expense statements last year.

Suggestions, besides burning more midnight oil than this old man has left, 
other than to delete all of them and enter all of them correctly as I find 
them.  I'm in tax time crunch here.

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Re: [GNC] Updates

[Rhonda Anderson]

Is there anyone else out there who can help me with this issue?

Thanks,
Rhonda


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> I recently upgraded to Windows 11, but I was having this problem before
> that.
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:30 PM Derek Atkins  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Fri, January 28, 2022 12:24 pm, Rhonda Anderson wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > When I have attempted to install the last 3 updates, my data is not
>> > carrying forward.  It opens as a brand new template, completely blank.
>> I
>> > have to go back and re-install version 4.6.
>> >
>> > Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
>>
>> What OS/Distro are you using?
>>
>> 4.current should be able to read 4.6 data files just fine.
>>
>> > Thanks,
>> > Rhonda
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Re: [GNC] File Locations

[Jan Herdsman]

Thanky, That was helpful.


On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 4:27 AM Tommy Trussell 
wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 5:09 AM Jan Herdsman  wrote:
>
>> I am using an iMac, I would like to be able to save my GNU file in a cloud
>> or other location than my hard drive, Also don't know where the location
>> or
>> name of any backup files are,
>> All I can see is log files and one LCK file and the gnucash file, all in
>> My
>> Documents.
>> If possible I would also like to be able to open the main file on a
>> windows
>> computer sometimes.
>>
>
> If you have your data stored as SQL (instead of the default XML file
> format) you won't have any backup files, just the log files. The log files,
> and backup files, if any can automatically be deleted after a certain time
> according to the preferences in GnuCash.
>
> HOWEVER since you aren't certain where all your files are and want to move
> and/or sync them, I checked the FAQ:
>
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ
>
> which links to the Backup entry:
>
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup
>
> Have a look at the Backup information and see if that helps you A) make a
> backup of your valuable data NOW before something goes wrong and B) know
> what files you might want to move or mark to sync with your iCloud (or
> DropBox, Google Drive, etc.).
>
> (Generally it's a lot easier to keep each data file in its own directory
> because of the log files and backup files that clutter it, so a separate
> directory is recommended. When you move the GnuCash files to a new
> location, unfortunately the Mac version keeps looking for the data file in
> the old location UNTIL you explicitly Open the newly positioned data file
> from within the application.)
>
> Once your data file has been located where another computer syncs with it,
> you can open the file from that computer, too. Just be sure to use the same
> version number GnuCash on that computer, and don't expect to be able to
> open the data from more than one computer at the same time.
>
>
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