Re: [GNC] Changing where my data is held

2022-02-12 Thread Liz 
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:17:32 +1000
David H  wrote:

> Some advice?  I ALWAYS update my gnucash data file locally and then
> copy it up to a shared drive, NAS/Cloud/Whatever using FreeFileSync (
> https://freefilesync.org/) - versions for Windows, Linux and Mac OS.
> Just means depending on what pc I'm on I have to be a bit pedantic to
> make sure I sync up the latest updated one and sync it down on the
> other pc if I'm not on my usual machine.  Once you have set it up
> it's pretty easy to click on "Compare" to see if any changes have
> been made and then click on "SYNC" to download the changed version.
> Bonus with this is if you stuff some updates up you can just re-sync
> the old file back down and over-write the botched file :-)
> 
> Cheers David H.


I use software which automatically syncs, and in that case you need to
exclude LCK and log and dated-gnucash files from sync.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] Changing where my data is held

2022-02-12 Thread Liz 
On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 14:23:01 +
David Long  wrote:

> Hi, sounds ridiculous but cannot find how to change where my data is
> held. Normally would expect to see that under preferences, but do not
> see it there.  Any advice? I want to put on a shared drive on
> Dropbox, so another person can use. Thanks David


It's really very simple. 
Just change where you save under "save-as" and your file will now be in
that place.
That hasn't removed the old copies, so you either would manually move
it (easy) or edit the list of last opened files (harder).

When you first opened "save-as" you were shown the current file
location. You chose this when you installed Gnucash first up, and
didn't need to remember.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] Changing where my data is held

2022-02-12 Thread David H 
David L.

Not a preferences thing as such, just use either File >> Save As and
navigate to desired destination and click OK - just like saving a document
somewhere :-)

OR copy/move your gnucash data file manually using Windows Explorer and
then re-open from new location so Gnucash knows where it is from there on.

Some advice?  I ALWAYS update my gnucash data file locally and then copy it
up to a shared drive, NAS/Cloud/Whatever using FreeFileSync (
https://freefilesync.org/) - versions for Windows, Linux and Mac OS.  Just
means depending on what pc I'm on I have to be a bit pedantic to make sure
I sync up the latest updated one and sync it down on the other pc if I'm
not on my usual machine.  Once you have set it up it's pretty easy to click
on "Compare" to see if any changes have been made and then click on "SYNC"
to download the changed version.  Bonus with this is if you stuff some
updates up you can just re-sync the old file back down and over-write the
botched file :-)

Cheers David H.


On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 at 15:26, David Long 
wrote:

> Hi, sounds ridiculous but cannot find how to change where my data is held.
> Normally would expect to see that under preferences, but do not see it
> there.  Any advice? I want to put on a shared drive on Dropbox, so another
> person can use.
> Thanks
> David
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Re: [GNC] Customer Deposits

2022-02-12 Thread Keith Fetterman 
Hi Adrien,

Thank you for sharing your experience and suggestions.  It’s too much work to 
generate the reports outside of GnuCash, so I am going to follow your lead and 
switch to doing pre-payments.  I thought it was important to show the customer 
deposits in a separate liability account.  I hadn’t thought of the pre-payments 
as a having a contra affect on the accounts receivables, which makes sense.  

Thanks
Keith



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> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 16:04:41 -0600
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> To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Customer Deposits
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> 
> You can create such a liability account though you'd have to run a 
> separate Account Report on it and later combine it with a Customer 
> Report outside of GnuCash. (in a spreadsheet) And when you record 
> pre-payments, you have to do them manually in that Deposits account, 
> then later, 'pay' the invoice with the Deposits account balance using 
> the Process Payments feature.
> 
> I used to do it this way, but reverted to simply doing normal 
> pre-payments for ease of generating reports. It is easy enough to see 
> the pre-payments with an A/R Aging or individual Customer Report. (that 
> is if they exceed posted invoices. If not, technically, they aren't a 
> liability)
> 
> Negative A/R *is* a Liability because it is a contra-balance in an asset 
> account.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 2/5/22 4:52 PM, Keith Fetterman wrote:
>> Is there a way to configure GnuCash to enter customer pre-payments a 
>> ?Customer Deposits? liability account under the ?Liabilities? account and 
>> have the pre-payment appear in a customer report?
>> 
>> Currently, when you enter a customer payment as a pre-payment it appears as 
>> a negative amount in the accounts receivable account.  I would like 
>> pre-payments to entered into a ?customer deposits" liability account so they 
>> appear as a liability to the company.  When I pay the customer invoices, I 
>> can pay them from the ?customer deposits? liability account.
>> 
>> I experimented with using a Customer Payment to enter the payment into the 
>> AR account then use a journal entry between the AR account and the ?customer 
>> deposits? liability account.  When I pay an invoice from the ?customer 
>> deposits? account, I get two payments in the customer report.
>> 
>> I can create transactions between a bank account and a  ?customer deposits? 
>> liability account to represent the customer deposit, but it does not appear 
>> in a customer report.  It would be nice to have this shown in the customer 
>> report.
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[GNC] Finance Quote installation Mac

2022-02-12 Thread First Name Last Name 
Hello,

I followed the instructions in the manual for finance quote installation for 
mac.

I downloaded x code.
I ran gnc fq update
It ran in terminal for a few minutes.. then said ‘process completed’.

When in gnucash the ‘online quotes ’ option is still greyed out.

When I run ‘gnc fq check’ it says i need to install the perl module 
finance::quote

When looking over the long string of text from the installation,

It seems that there were in fact some errors.

Eg:

First try:

88 warnings generated

Error 225

Errors/warnings found in prerequisites 



2nd attempt:


Do not have write permissions…

Can’t create ‘/Library/Perl/5.3/Web’ 
….. permission denied at …(directory) .. line489

…

Error 13

….

Errors/warnings found in prerequisites 

…..


And a lot of other info that goes way over my head.


Is this normal? Is this what is causing the problem? Is it possible to get this 
going for a lay person? I simply did the default options during the 
installation as suggested in the manual.

If anyone can help I’d really appreciate it. Let me know if there is any 
specific info from the installation terminal text that would help.

Thank you 

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[GNC] Changing where my data is held

2022-02-12 Thread David Long 
Hi, sounds ridiculous but cannot find how to change where my data is held. 
Normally would expect to see that under preferences, but do not see it there.  
Any advice? I want to put on a shared drive on Dropbox, so another person can 
use.
Thanks
David
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Re: [GNC] No Stock Quotes - OS Monterey, Gnucash 4.8(Build ID: 4.8a+(2021-09-28))

2022-02-12 Thread dennis adams 
John,
It is finally working.  Tried the “gnc-fq-dump -v yahoo_json XOM” command a few 
times and always got same “Internal Server” error.  Tried “sudo cpan” to start 
download of Mozilla::CA process with same results stating “ running another 
cpan process” despite finding no cpan running processes in Activity Monitor and 
eventually using “sudo killall cpan”.  Finally just told it to overwrite the 
lock file.  Once that was done, ran the “install Mozilla::CA” command which it 
did and after that quote download worked.  I’ve attached the Terminal dump in 
case you are interested.  Again, I appreciate all your help and patience and 
David R’s help




On Feb 11, 2022, at 15:12, John Ralls 
mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:

Dennis,

Please remember to copy the list on all replies.

No, "internal server error" indicates that something went wrong on 
Alphavantage's end. Try again after a few minutes or using yahoo_json instead:

 Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-dump -v yahoo_json XOM


Regards,
John Ralls

On Feb 11, 2022, at 1:38 PM, smad...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

John,

Ran gnc-fq-check.  Version 1.51 no errors.  The example in Wiki showed an error 
message about a missing Mozilla/CA.pm.  Since no error I didn’t run Mozilla::CA 
update figuring I had certificates and that wasn’t the current problem.
Ran gnc-fq-dump for stock XOM with result indicating the Alphavantage key was 
missing:

dwa1@dwa1 ~ % /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-dump -v 
alphavantage XOM
ERROR: ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY *must* be set for currency quotes and
stock quotes with source 'alphavantage' or 'vanguard'; see
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes#Source_Alphavantage.2C_US
dwa1@dwa1 ~ %

However, in checking GC Preferences, Online quotes, the Alpha Vantage API Key 
is there.  So I tried using it in the Helper dump script per the WIKI:
“ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY= 
/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-dump -v alphavantage 
XOM” with the following Terminal results:

dwa1@dwa1 ~ % ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY= 
/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-dump -v alphavantage XOM
Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
   symbol: XOM (deduced)<=== required
 date: ** missing **<=== recommended
 currency: ** missing **<=== required
 last: **missing**  <=\
  nav: **missing**  <=== one of these
price: **missing**  <=/
 timezone:  <=== optional

** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!

All fields returned by Finance::Quote for stock XOM

stock   field  value
-   -  -
XOM  errormsg: Internal Server Error
XOM  last: **missing**
XOM   nav: **missing**
XOM price: **missing**
XOM   success: 0

dwa1@dwa1 ~ %

So even though I have the Alphavantage key in place, it is somehow not being 
seen and appears to be the current problem.

Thanks


john jralls at ceridwen.us
Fri Feb 11 00:01:27 EST 2022

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Dennis,

You can examine the running processes in /Applications/Utilities/Actiivity 
Monitor and kill them from there, or you can just nuke the lot with
 sudo killall cpan
if you're reasonably sure that there shouldn't be any left running.

Regards,
John Ralls






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Re: [GNC] Download GnuCash issue

2022-02-12 Thread David Long 
Hi,
To update,  my laptop is a 64 bit machine. I cleared up a bit of disk
space, and now it's installing correctly.
Thanks all
David

On Sat, 12 Feb 2022, 17:22 David Carlson, 
wrote:

> If Windows 8.1 is a 32 bit OS there could be file size issues, as it could
> only look at 2 gig spaces
>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 10:33 AM john  wrote:
>
>> No, GnuCash is built for 32-bit on Windows so that it will work on older
>> machines.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 12, 2022, at 8:13 AM, Jon Schewe  wrote:
>> >
>> > Maybe that's all that is available.
>> > Can you post the specific text of the dialog here? That may help in
>> > determining what the issue is.
>> > GnuCash does say it supports Windows 8. One possibility is that GnuCash
>> > is built as a 64-bit application and you have a 32-bit version of
>> > Windows. You can follow the instructions here to verify if you have a
>> > 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows
>> >
>> https://softwaregroup.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115012567728-How-to-check-if-Windows-8-and-8-1-is-32-bit-or-64-bit
>> > I'm not sure if GnuCash for Windows is built as 64-bit only. Can
>> > someone using Windows confirm this?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, 2022-02-12 at 10:01 -0600, David Carlson wrote:
>> >> That sounds like you are trying to drive a Tesla on a cow path.  Why
>> >> try?
>> >> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 7:37 AM  wrote:
>> >>> Hi, I downloaded the latest version of GnuCash  (4.9) onto an older
>> >>> laptoprunning Windows 8.1 , but when I tried to run the setup got a
>> >>> message thatit could not run on this machine. Same thing with an
>> >>> older version ofGnuCash. I have about 11 GB of disk space remaining
>> >>> on this machine. Whatcould be the issue?
>> >>> Thanks
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Re: [GNC] Download GnuCash issue

2022-02-12 Thread David Long 
Hi ,
The message I got was that GnuCash was not compatible with my PC and I
should contact the publisher.
I am using this old lap top as am planning to travel.
The latest version installed fine on my Desktop.
David

On Sat, 12 Feb 2022, 17:22 David Carlson, 
wrote:

> If Windows 8.1 is a 32 bit OS there could be file size issues, as it could
> only look at 2 gig spaces
>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 10:33 AM john  wrote:
>
>> No, GnuCash is built for 32-bit on Windows so that it will work on older
>> machines.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 12, 2022, at 8:13 AM, Jon Schewe  wrote:
>> >
>> > Maybe that's all that is available.
>> > Can you post the specific text of the dialog here? That may help in
>> > determining what the issue is.
>> > GnuCash does say it supports Windows 8. One possibility is that GnuCash
>> > is built as a 64-bit application and you have a 32-bit version of
>> > Windows. You can follow the instructions here to verify if you have a
>> > 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows
>> >
>> https://softwaregroup.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115012567728-How-to-check-if-Windows-8-and-8-1-is-32-bit-or-64-bit
>> > I'm not sure if GnuCash for Windows is built as 64-bit only. Can
>> > someone using Windows confirm this?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, 2022-02-12 at 10:01 -0600, David Carlson wrote:
>> >> That sounds like you are trying to drive a Tesla on a cow path.  Why
>> >> try?
>> >> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 7:37 AM  wrote:
>> >>> Hi, I downloaded the latest version of GnuCash  (4.9) onto an older
>> >>> laptoprunning Windows 8.1 , but when I tried to run the setup got a
>> >>> message thatit could not run on this machine. Same thing with an
>> >>> older version ofGnuCash. I have about 11 GB of disk space remaining
>> >>> on this machine. Whatcould be the issue?
>> >>> Thanks
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Re: [GNC] Download GnuCash issue

2022-02-12 Thread David Carlson 
If Windows 8.1 is a 32 bit OS there could be file size issues, as it could
only look at 2 gig spaces

On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 10:33 AM john  wrote:

> No, GnuCash is built for 32-bit on Windows so that it will work on older
> machines.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 2022, at 8:13 AM, Jon Schewe  wrote:
> >
> > Maybe that's all that is available.
> > Can you post the specific text of the dialog here? That may help in
> > determining what the issue is.
> > GnuCash does say it supports Windows 8. One possibility is that GnuCash
> > is built as a 64-bit application and you have a 32-bit version of
> > Windows. You can follow the instructions here to verify if you have a
> > 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows
> >
> https://softwaregroup.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115012567728-How-to-check-if-Windows-8-and-8-1-is-32-bit-or-64-bit
> > I'm not sure if GnuCash for Windows is built as 64-bit only. Can
> > someone using Windows confirm this?
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 2022-02-12 at 10:01 -0600, David Carlson wrote:
> >> That sounds like you are trying to drive a Tesla on a cow path.  Why
> >> try?
> >> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 7:37 AM  wrote:
> >>> Hi, I downloaded the latest version of GnuCash  (4.9) onto an older
> >>> laptoprunning Windows 8.1 , but when I tried to run the setup got a
> >>> message thatit could not run on this machine. Same thing with an
> >>> older version ofGnuCash. I have about 11 GB of disk space remaining
> >>> on this machine. Whatcould be the issue?
> >>> Thanks
> >>> David Long
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Re: [GNC] Download GnuCash issue

2022-02-12 Thread john 
No, GnuCash is built for 32-bit on Windows so that it will work on older 
machines.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Feb 12, 2022, at 8:13 AM, Jon Schewe  wrote:
> 
> Maybe that's all that is available.
> Can you post the specific text of the dialog here? That may help in
> determining what the issue is.
> GnuCash does say it supports Windows 8. One possibility is that GnuCash
> is built as a 64-bit application and you have a 32-bit version of
> Windows. You can follow the instructions here to verify if you have a
> 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows 
> https://softwaregroup.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115012567728-How-to-check-if-Windows-8-and-8-1-is-32-bit-or-64-bit
> I'm not sure if GnuCash for Windows is built as 64-bit only. Can
> someone using Windows confirm this?
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2022-02-12 at 10:01 -0600, David Carlson wrote:
>> That sounds like you are trying to drive a Tesla on a cow path.  Why
>> try?
>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 7:37 AM  wrote:
>>> Hi, I downloaded the latest version of GnuCash  (4.9) onto an older
>>> laptoprunning Windows 8.1 , but when I tried to run the setup got a
>>> message thatit could not run on this machine. Same thing with an
>>> older version ofGnuCash. I have about 11 GB of disk space remaining
>>> on this machine. Whatcould be the issue?
>>> Thanks
>>> David Long
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Re: [GNC] Download GnuCash issue

2022-02-12 Thread Jon Schewe 
Maybe that's all that is available.
Can you post the specific text of the dialog here? That may help in
determining what the issue is.
GnuCash does say it supports Windows 8. One possibility is that GnuCash
is built as a 64-bit application and you have a 32-bit version of
Windows. You can follow the instructions here to verify if you have a
32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows 
https://softwaregroup.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115012567728-How-to-check-if-Windows-8-and-8-1-is-32-bit-or-64-bit
I'm not sure if GnuCash for Windows is built as 64-bit only. Can
someone using Windows confirm this?


On Sat, 2022-02-12 at 10:01 -0600, David Carlson wrote:
> That sounds like you are trying to drive a Tesla on a cow path.  Why
> try?
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 7:37 AM  wrote:
> > Hi, I downloaded the latest version of GnuCash  (4.9) onto an older
> > laptoprunning Windows 8.1 , but when I tried to run the setup got a
> > message thatit could not run on this machine. Same thing with an
> > older version ofGnuCash. I have about 11 GB of disk space remaining
> > on this machine. Whatcould be the issue?
> > Thanks
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Re: [GNC] Download GnuCash issue

2022-02-12 Thread David Carlson 
That sounds like you are trying to drive a Tesla on a cow path.  Why try?

On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 7:37 AM  wrote:

> Hi, I downloaded the latest version of GnuCash  (4.9) onto an older laptop
> running Windows 8.1 , but when I tried to run the setup got a message that
> it could not run on this machine. Same thing with an older version of
> GnuCash. I have about 11 GB of disk space remaining on this machine. What
> could be the issue?
>
> Thanks
>
> David Long
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[GNC] Download GnuCash issue

2022-02-12 Thread davidvernonlong 
Hi, I downloaded the latest version of GnuCash  (4.9) onto an older laptop
running Windows 8.1 , but when I tried to run the setup got a message that
it could not run on this machine. Same thing with an older version of
GnuCash. I have about 11 GB of disk space remaining on this machine. What
could be the issue?

Thanks

David Long

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Re: [GNC] getting Online_Quotes to work on MacOS

2022-02-12 Thread coolnodje 

Cheers, this got me `gnc-fq-check` working.

Now I found the doc dealing with this type of problem :)
Sorry about it, one shouldn't ask for support for Friday night install 
attempts...


Regards,
-nodje

On 11/02/2022 23:14, John Ralls wrote:



On Feb 11, 2022, at 1:22 PM, coolnodje  wrote:

Hi,

I was just following the Online_Quotes doc,  installing Finance::Quote and 
trying to get some quotes.

I've been doing:

➜  bin sudo ./gnc-fq-update

[...]

All tests successful.
Files=56, Tests=82,  4 wallclock secs ( 0.06 usr  0.06 sys + 3.38 cusr  0.51 
csys =  4.01 CPU)
Result: PASS
   BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.51.tar.gz
Tests succeeded but one dependency not OK (Test::Perl::Critic)
   BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.51.tar.gz
   [dependencies] -- NA
➜  bin ./gnc-fq-check

You need to install the following Perl modules:
   Finance::Quote

Use your system's package manager to install them,
or run 'gnc-fq-update' as root.
missing-lib
➜  bin

I'm not too sure why Finance::Quote isn't found after an install.
Relaunching my terminal trying in a fresh shell doesn't make any difference.

I'm using zsh on latest MacOS, have setup ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEYin Gnucash GUI 
preference and in .zshrc.

Maybe because Finance::Quote's install failed, indicated by "Tests succeeded but one 
dependency not OK (Test::Perl::Critic)"

The workaround is to run
   sudo cpan -f -i B::Keywords
then run gnc-fq-update again.

Regards,
John Ralls


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