Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message "Transaction with no or only one associated account"

2023-01-22 Thread Kalpesh Patel
Few years back I imported about 20+ years' worth of Quicken data that had
been accumulated over time that was in Quicken 2017 on Windows. There were
number of lessons I had learned and shared here for others in the past
(google search terms: "site:lists.gnucash.org quicken"). 

While I do not know particulars about Quicken 2002 (is that a typo?), here
are general guidelines I recommend following which is what I formulated for
Quicken 2017:

- Clean up the Quicken file first --- In Quicken validate first followed by
create copy, followed by validation of that copied file and continue doing
so until no errors are in the file for at least two rounds.
- Don't try to export/import anything other than transactions from Quicken
(exception below).
- Reset your security price history if you can as event (buy, sell, etc.)
related prices will come over no problem. You can always import historical
prices into GNC by other means afterwards.
- Create your account hierarchy manually in GNC or by other means before
importing (I did not go with the method of account list export from Quicken
and import it into GNC so YMMV).
- Import securities as part of the import as-is, bulk create them during
import  and then modify after all transactions have imported correctly.
- Order of export/import to maintain: largest to smallest account size with
investment account first, banking accounts second, and lastly credit card
and/or loan accounts. If you can break it up into smaller chunks (one year
worth then better, or best is to create a year-end file in Quicken and then
perform import from that new year file with this stated order)
- Export one account at a time from Quicken then import that single account
into Quicken; never export all accounts in one qif file!  Follow Liz's
divide-&-conquer (binary split) approach on fixing a qif file if it errors
out but don't change the order from what is mentions in the previous step.
- Make a backup copy every time an import has worked. This will allow you to
go back if there is large set of incorrect import on the next account
without the loss of work up to the point it has worked. This will let you
build upon it until all have been moved over.
- Don't expect everything to look correctly after import is completed. In
GNC transactions, account and many other things can be moved around and
re-parented without much complex work that otherwise would be needed in
Quicken so get transactions over into an accounts in GNC and move on to
importing/exporting next account.
- Pay attention to the way dates are formatted for years before 2000, and
years 2000 and after if you are on Windows Quicken. Make them consistent
(programmatically) before importing them if you see them differently
formatted. GNC likes only one and consistent format throughout qif file.

 Hope this helps.


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Good idea! Thanks, Jan

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user 
On Behalf Of Liz Dodd
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 4:14 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message
"Transaction with no or only one associated account"

On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 09:12:23 -0500
Jan via gnucash-user  wrote:

> I do have 20+ years of Quicken 2002 data (German Version), but only 
> tried to upload 2022 to GnuCash via a QIF down-/upload. It ends 
> abruptly (program vanishes completely) at the import step. The last 
> message I see on the screen is "Transaction with no or only one 
> associated account".

One method of approaching this is the binary split method.
Instead of all 2022, split it into two parts, try importing one.
If it fails, ignore it, and try the other one.
Split the one that fails...

Repeat until you find the problem, then deal with the problem.


We do suggest importing small files sequentially to train the importer, so
you may choose to stick with small files until 2022 is finished.


Liz
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Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message "Transaction with no or only one associated account"

2023-01-22 Thread Jan via gnucash-user
Good idea! Thanks, Jan

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user 
On Behalf Of Liz Dodd
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 4:14 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message
"Transaction with no or only one associated account"

On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 09:12:23 -0500
Jan via gnucash-user  wrote:

> I do have 20+ years of Quicken 2002 data (German Version), but only 
> tried to upload 2022 to GnuCash via a QIF down-/upload. It ends 
> abruptly (program vanishes completely) at the import step. The last 
> message I see on the screen is "Transaction with no or only one 
> associated account".

One method of approaching this is the binary split method.
Instead of all 2022, split it into two parts, try importing one.
If it fails, ignore it, and try the other one.
Split the one that fails...

Repeat until you find the problem, then deal with the problem.


We do suggest importing small files sequentially to train the importer, so
you may choose to stick with small files until 2022 is finished.


Liz
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Re: [GNC] Entering Dividend Confusion

2023-01-22 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi,

On Sun, January 22, 2023 7:31 am, xboxboy.mageia+GnuCash wrote:
> Thank you to all who have replied.
>
> I attempted to enter a split transaction in the 'dividend' income page,
> and then it vanished: I found it had transferred to the company stock
> tab: It appeared to be correct, and the amounts ending up in the correct
> accounts :)

The reason it "vanished" was because you had no splits tied to the open
account.  So there was nothing holding it to the current view.

>
> So I was able to enter ALL the data for that stock, and then I was even
> able to enter the final sale and scrub the account correctly.
>
> I can not express how WILD, FRUSTRATED and angry I was with myself. But
> it's now done, and I can always refer to that as a template/transaction
> to copy.
>
> Is there a function to 'lock' an account so it can no longer be edited
> accidentally?

Yes.  Mark the account as "placeholder" and you won't be able to add any
transactions or otherwise edit the contents of the account.

>
> Thank you everyone, I really, really appreciate your patience and help.

You're welcome.

Happy Gnucashing!

-derek


> On 22/1/23 18:57, Maf. King wrote:
>> On Sunday, 22 January 2023 04:50:47 GMT xboxboy.mageia+GnuCash wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks: Now which page/account/ledger do I do this on? The dividend
>>> income one? the company dividend income one? the company stock one??
>>>
>> When the dividends are being reinvested automatically, I enter the
>> transaction
>> in the relevant stock account.  I just find it easier to see with the
>> number/
>> price/value boxes in front of me.
>>
>> Instead of the usual approach of the cash to buy the shares being
>> transferred
>> from Assets:Bank, just transfer from Income:dividend[:etc] and also if
>> requited ensure you have the split to show the tax credit too.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Maf.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [GNC] Morgan Stanley Portfolio

2023-01-22 Thread Steve Brown
Morgan Stanley is running an OFX server. I'd see if I could get online
banking to connect with it and download that.

I haven't tried it as I don't have an account there, but I think all
the info you need to set it up is here:

https://www.ofxhome.com/index.php/institution/view/500

I was able to download the profile with ofxget from ofxtools and it
promises to support investments.

Good luck,

Steve


On Sun, 2023-01-22 at 06:29 -0500, Ed Greenberg wrote:
> I have a portfolio at Morgan Stanley which generates some dividends, 
> income, cap gains distribution, etc. All sorts of odd transactions.
> MS 
> does not offer a QFX/OFX, but only an excel download which is
> inadequate 
> for import. Near as I can tell.
> 
> Does anybody have suggestions for interacting with Morgan Stanley?
> 
> I'm considering writing a transformation program that will read the
> csv 
> and rewrite it in a more importable set of csv columns. Or just
> biting 
> the bullet and keying it all in manually.
> 
> On the other hand, what procedures have people developed to track
> just 
> the asset value of the entire portfolio and update it each month?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed Greenberg
> 
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Re: [GNC] Entering Dividend Confusion

2023-01-22 Thread xboxboy.mageia+GnuCash

Thank you to all who have replied.

I attempted to enter a split transaction in the 'dividend' income page, 
and then it vanished: I found it had transferred to the company stock 
tab: It appeared to be correct, and the amounts ending up in the correct 
accounts :)


So I was able to enter ALL the data for that stock, and then I was even 
able to enter the final sale and scrub the account correctly.


I can not express how WILD, FRUSTRATED and angry I was with myself. But 
it's now done, and I can always refer to that as a template/transaction 
to copy.


Is there a function to 'lock' an account so it can no longer be edited 
accidentally?


Thank you everyone, I really, really appreciate your patience and help.

On 22/1/23 18:57, Maf. King wrote:

On Sunday, 22 January 2023 04:50:47 GMT xboxboy.mageia+GnuCash wrote:


Thanks: Now which page/account/ledger do I do this on? The dividend
income one? the company dividend income one? the company stock one??


When the dividends are being reinvested automatically, I enter the transaction
in the relevant stock account.  I just find it easier to see with the number/
price/value boxes in front of me.

Instead of the usual approach of the cash to buy the shares being transferred
from Assets:Bank, just transfer from Income:dividend[:etc] and also if
requited ensure you have the split to show the tax credit too.

HTH,
Maf.



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[GNC] Morgan Stanley Portfolio

2023-01-22 Thread Ed Greenberg
I have a portfolio at Morgan Stanley which generates some dividends, 
income, cap gains distribution, etc. All sorts of odd transactions. MS 
does not offer a QFX/OFX, but only an excel download which is inadequate 
for import. Near as I can tell.


Does anybody have suggestions for interacting with Morgan Stanley?

I'm considering writing a transformation program that will read the csv 
and rewrite it in a more importable set of csv columns. Or just biting 
the bullet and keying it all in manually.


On the other hand, what procedures have people developed to track just 
the asset value of the entire portfolio and update it each month?


Thanks,

Ed Greenberg


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Re: [GNC] Entering Dividend Confusion

2023-01-22 Thread Maf. King
On Sunday, 22 January 2023 04:50:47 GMT xboxboy.mageia+GnuCash wrote:

> 
> Thanks: Now which page/account/ledger do I do this on? The dividend
> income one? the company dividend income one? the company stock one??
> 

When the dividends are being reinvested automatically, I enter the transaction 
in the relevant stock account.  I just find it easier to see with the number/
price/value boxes in front of me.

Instead of the usual approach of the cash to buy the shares being transferred 
from Assets:Bank, just transfer from Income:dividend[:etc] and also if 
requited ensure you have the split to show the tax credit too.

HTH,
Maf.



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