Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

[Ken Pyzik]

Well, I will add my 2 cents worth (for that is probably all it is really worth 
anyway).  With no disrespect to R Losey (I can appreciate what you are 
saying) I will say this: 

I have been using the product since at least version 2.3.  I have had few, if 
any, complaints with the software.  It does what I need it to do.  I was just 
so glad that when Quicken went to their subscription model, that there was a 
product that could do what GnuCash does.  And as a bonus, the software happen 
to be free! 

My view is this:  We are very fortunate that this free app is supported and 
even has continued improvements and upgrades.   I have seen some free license 
software that are years old -- and have never been upgraded/improved and have 
no support.   Since the software is free -- it is there for you to take and use 
-- as is -- with no implied warranties, guarantees, or assurances that it will 
be improved, upgraded, or even supported.  Those are the terms  - take it or 
leave it.  

Now, if someone does not like those terms -- they can always get a commercial 
package or subscription and pay ongoing fees to have it improved, upgraded and 
supported.   (To that end, even when I did have Quicken - and paid for yearly 
upgrades -- the software still had bugs and people still complained about it -- 
even with paid support and upgrades!)

I am a happy GnuCash user -- and I wish the project nothing but continued 
success in the future.  And even if all the developers hit the lottery tomorrow 
and left the project forever and never touched the code ever again -- I would 
still be very grateful that it exists and does what it does.  Thank you! 

Ken


-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On 
Behalf Of R Losey
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 8:33 PM
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

Let me start off by trying to avoid hateful responses...

I worked in the software industry, and the programs I supported have had their 
share of issues. I remember (with hung head) when we went through a patch in 
which we would claim to have fixed a problem, only to have it recur, and then 
fixed that and then had another problem occur. It was a really bad time, and we 
took a lot of heat for it.

I also know that GnuCash is free, thanks to the intense dedication of a 
relatively small number of people... for whom and to whom, I am very grateful.

However.

I started using GnuCash about 8 years ago, and I generally upgraded each 
quarter as the new versions came out. My own experience in software led me to 
delay doing the update for 7-10 days -- just in case there was a bug that 
necessitated a re-release (and it happened just enough to make me glad I waited 
from time to time).

I am still running 5.3 because (as has been documented here), the 5.4 windows 
release had a bug that left a process running.  "No problem", I thought -- I'll 
just skip 5.4 and install 5.5 when it comes out.

Well, 5.5 is out, and it looks like the Scheduled Transactions no longer 
function properly, especially in regard to variable placeholders. This is a 
feature I used and cannot use GnuCash if this is broken. This makes 5.5 also 
unusable for me. This is the first time I can remember when I could not 
download a new release - let alone two of them.

I don't know what the problem is or what the best solution is -- perhaps 
everyone on this list could contribute a few dollars to give the hardworking 
developers a chance to "re-charge", as it were? Perhaps a quarter needs to be 
spent only fixing bugs and ignoring adding new features? Perhaps the developers 
just need to take a break for a quarter?

I don't mean this at all in a harsh or critical way; I am just concerned that a 
program I really like seems to be slipping somehow.

--
_
Richard Losey
rlo...@gmail.com
Micah 6:8
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[GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

[R Losey]

Let me start off by trying to avoid hateful responses...

I worked in the software industry, and the programs I supported have had
their share of issues. I remember (with hung head) when we went through a
patch in which we would claim to have fixed a problem, only to have it
recur, and then fixed that and then had another problem occur. It was a
really bad time, and we took a lot of heat for it.

I also know that GnuCash is free, thanks to the intense dedication of a
relatively small number of people... for whom and to whom, I am very
grateful.

However.

I started using GnuCash about 8 years ago, and I generally upgraded each
quarter as the new versions came out. My own experience in software led me
to delay doing the update for 7-10 days -- just in case there was a bug
that necessitated a re-release (and it happened just enough to make me glad
I waited from time to time).

I am still running 5.3 because (as has been documented here), the 5.4
windows release had a bug that left a process running.  "No problem", I
thought -- I'll just skip 5.4 and install 5.5 when it comes out.

Well, 5.5 is out, and it looks like the Scheduled Transactions no longer
function properly, especially in regard to variable placeholders. This is a
feature I used and cannot use GnuCash if this is broken. This makes 5.5
also unusable for me. This is the first time I can remember when I could
not download a new release - let alone two of them.

I don't know what the problem is or what the best solution is -- perhaps
everyone on this list could contribute a few dollars to give
the hardworking developers a chance to "re-charge", as it were? Perhaps
a quarter needs to be spent only fixing bugs and ignoring adding new
features? Perhaps the developers just need to take a break for a quarter?

I don't mean this at all in a harsh or critical way; I am just concerned
that a program I really like seems to be slipping somehow.

-- 
_
Richard Losey
rlo...@gmail.com
Micah 6:8
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transactions gnucash-5.5

[mjchurchil--- via gnucash-user]

Thanks John  didn't see that one. Also, thanks to the whole team for a great 
application. Mike

Sent from AOL on Android 
 
  On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 6:48 PM, john wrote:   


On Dec 25, 2023, at 11:07, mjchurchil--- via gnucash-user 
 wrote:
 Just as an update, I tried a gnucash-5.5 package on arch. Trying to change 
from reminder to to-create has no effect; stays reminder. Same computer, same 
database, but different install.  Mike

    On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:52:57 AM PST, mjchurchil--- via 
gnucash-user  wrote:  

 Using 5.5 built from bz2 file on debian and freebsd. Scheduled transactions 
since last run. Three transactions with reminder label.  Select compose for 
transaction #2.  Transaction #1 switches to compose, transaction #2 stays 
reminder.  Quit gnucash-5.5. Start gnucash-5.4. Works as expected. Does 
transaction #2 when requested. Didn't try Transaction #3 on 5.5, but probably 
should have. Now I only have two transactions anyway.  Using SQL-backend and 
AQBanking=OFF in both builds. Don't know if it's just me, or if it's a bug.  
Mike


That's https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799186
Regards,John Ralls

  
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-cli doesn't retrieve quotes from "unknown" sources

[Gustavo R. Montesino]

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:27 PM Gustavo R. Montesino
 wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 2:20 PM john  wrote:
> > > On Dec 11, 2023, at 03:07, Gustavo R. Montesino  
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 9:30 PM john  wrote:
> > > > > On Dec 10, 2023, at 03:40, Gustavo R. Montesino 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm running gnucash 5.4 from Debian testing/sid repo and getting
> > > > > updated commodity quotes through "gnucash-cli --quotes get".
> > > > >
> > > > > Recently I've noticed that gnucash-cli isn't getting quotes from
> > > > > "unkonwn" Finance::Quote sources; the same commodities get updated
> > > > > quotes correctly if run from the Price dialog.
> > > > >
> > > > > Running gnucash-cli with "--debug", the affected commodities doesn't
> > > > > show up on the "Query JSON" posted on the console; running the gui
> > > > > with debug they show correctly on gnucash.trace, eg:
> > > > >
> > > > > 8:23:47  INFO  [GncQuotesImpl::query_fq] Query 
> > > > > JSON: {
> > > > >  "defaultcurrency": "BRL",
> > > > > (...)
> > > > >   "tesouro_direto": {
> > > > >   "Tesouro Prefixado 2026": "",
> > > > >   "Tesouro Selic 2027": "",
> > > > > (...)
> > > >
> > > > Does it work correctly if you request individual quotes from 
> > > > gnucash-cli, for example
> > > >bin/gnucash-cli -Q dump tesouro_direto "Tesouro Prefixado 2026"
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply. Individual/specific quotes work perfectly:
> > >
> > >   ~$ LANG=C gnucash-cli -Q dump tesouro_direto "Tesouro Prefixado 2026"
> > > Finance::Quote fields GnuCash uses:
> > >symbol: Tesouro Prefixado 2026<=== required
> > > date: 12/08/2023  <=== recommended
> > >  currency: BRL <=== required
> > >  last: 818.37  <=\
> > >   nav: <=== one of these
> > >price: <=/
> > >
> > OK, good. Can you figure out when it stopped working and what might have 
> > changed in your system around that time?
> >
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm not really sure when this problem started, but the quote
> availability on my pricedb gets visibly irregular since around the end
> of august. Checking the apt logs, although this is some strong
> guesswork, I do think this has stopped working after upgrading to
> gnucash 5 (from 1:4.13-1 to 1:5.1-1 to be precise).
>

Hello,

I've finally managed to take a better look at this, and it would seem
to be a bug related to the order of loading things (at least on a SQL
Backend). "QofSessionImpl::load()" loads the commodities from the book
before "gnc_quote_source_set_fq_installed()" loads the F::Q sources,
leading to the commodity to be associated with a nil source. The
source is loaded later but there is no association to the commodity.

* 17:27:15 DEBUG  [enter
./libgnucash/engine/qofsession.cpp:QofSessionImpl::load()]
sess=0x56308ef63be0 uri=quotes-test.gnucash
* 17:27:15 DEBUG  [enter
./libgnucash/backend/dbi/gnc-backend-dbi.cpp:GncDbiBackend::load()]
dbi_be=0x56308ef64000, book=0x56308f077060
  (...)
* 17:27:15 DEBUG 
[gnc_quote_source_lookup_by_internal]
gnc_quote_source_lookup_by_internal: Unknown source tesouro_direto
* 17:27:15 DEBUG  [enter
./libgnucash/engine/gnc-commodity.c:gnc_commodity_set_quote_source()]
(cm=0x56308efd36d0, src=(nil)(unknown))
 (...)
* 17:27:16 DEBUG  [enter
./libgnucash/engine/gnc-commodity.c:gnc_quote_source_set_fq_installed()]
* 17:27:16 DEBUG 
[gnc_quote_source_lookup_by_internal]
gnc_quote_source_lookup_by_internal: Unknown source tesouro_direto
* 17:27:16 DEBUG  [gnc_quote_source_add_new]
Creating new source tesouro_direto

I´m not versed enough on gnucash source to say if this is the best
course of action, but this comment on gnc-commodity.c seems to
indicate that at some point the intention was to call
"gnc_quote_source_add_new()" when an commodity with unknown source is
found, instead of associating it with a null source:

/
 * gnc_quote_source_add_new
 *
 * Add a new price source. Called when unknown source names are found
 * either in the F::Q installation (a newly available source) or in
 * the user's data file (a source that has vanished but needs to be
 * tracked.)
 /

Perhaps this would be better registered on bugzilla? Taking a look
around it does actually seem to be already reported on 799066.


Thanks and regards,

Gustavo R. Montesino
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Re: [GNC] USAA OFX Direct Connect stopped working

[was698002 via gnucash-user]

Is there a work around for this other than csv download?


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Re: [GNC] How is "auto asset transfer" used in an asset account?

[David Cousens]

Andrew
 You may find some information in this section of the GnuCash guide
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_invest.html

David Cousens

On Wed, 2023-12-27 at 15:14 -0500, Andrew Gross wrote:
> Greetings all,
> 
> I am creating a new account to hold bonds and started to create an asset
> account; I see there is a checkbox for "auto interest transfer".  I have
> not been able to find any definitive text on how to use this feature
> although I have found mentions here
> 
> and
> mentions possibly related to it such as in a couple of postings in August
> 2022.
> 
> Can anyone point me to where I could find more information?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andrew
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Re: [GNC] Currency Display in Reports

[Larry Baldwin]

David,

Thanks for the reply.  I found an old email (  Jan. 2020 ) from Adrien which 
detailed exactly the method to change the currency symbol. My reports now 
display to my preferred method.



> As for customizing the currency symbol:
>
> 1. Open Tools > Security Editor
> 2. Make sure ’Show National Currencies’ is checked at the bottom left
> 3. Expand the currency list
> 4. Find your currency
> 5. See if the symbol shows correctly
> 6. If not, with that currency selected, click the Edit button
> 7. Type, or copy/paste your desired symbol in the Display symbol field and
> click the OK button
>
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>







> On Dec 25, 2023, at 12:58 PM, david amaral  wrote:
> 
> Edit
> Preferences
> Reports
> Default report currency
> 
> 
> On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:51:52 AM GMT-7, Larry Baldwin 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is there a setting or method to alter the currency format in reports?
> 
> All of my transactions will be in one currency and I would prefer the report 
> to display:
> 
> current settings Default Report Currency - CAD (Canadian Dollar  output  
> =C$1,234.56
> 
> Preferred output  =$ 
> 1,234.56
> 
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Larry
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Re: [GNC] New problem, could not find how to report possible bug

[David Cousens]

Eric,

Abouta bit over halfway down the wiki page under the heading
"Commenting on existing bugs or entering new ones" on the second line there is a
link to "Open a New GnuCash bug" which is not highlighted as a link but does
work and takes you to the login page of the Bugzilla. If you already don't have
an account, the "create a new account" link will setup an accounton Bugzilla. 

David Cousens

On Wed, 2023-12-27 at 20:28 +, Eric Hammond wrote:
> 
> This may not be the proper forum, if not I would appreciate re-direction:
> 
> I have "Build ID: 5.5+(2023-12-16)"
> When searching a specific Vendor, gnucash instantly shuts down.
> The lock is not cleared, but the file is re-openable.
> 
> This does not happen with any other activity, so far.
> 
> Thank you for your help,
> Eric Hammond
> 
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[GNC] New problem, could not find how to report possible bug

[Eric Hammond]

This may not be the proper forum, if not I would appreciate re-direction:

I have "Build ID: 5.5+(2023-12-16)"
When searching a specific Vendor, gnucash instantly shuts down.
The lock is not cleared, but the file is re-openable.

This does not happen with any other activity, so far.

Thank you for your help,
Eric Hammond

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[GNC] How is "auto asset transfer" used in an asset account?

[Andrew Gross]

Greetings all,

I am creating a new account to hold bonds and started to create an asset
account; I see there is a checkbox for "auto interest transfer".  I have
not been able to find any definitive text on how to use this feature
although I have found mentions here

and
mentions possibly related to it such as in a couple of postings in August
2022.

Can anyone point me to where I could find more information?

Thanks,

Andrew
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Re: [GNC] GNUcash for multiple users

[Derek Atkins]

Sorry. no.
-derek

On Wed, December 27, 2023 1:33 pm, Martijn Heuts wrote:
> Hello, I have been an active user for a decade now but I have been out of
> the loop for updates.
>
> Are there any options for having GNU on multiple computers to where GNU
> can be used at the same time?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Martijn
> usadutch...@bellsouth.net
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[GNC] GNUcash for multiple users

[Martijn Heuts]

Hello, I have been an active user for a decade now but I have been out of the 
loop for updates.

Are there any options for having GNU on multiple computers to where GNU can be 
used at the same time?

Thanks!

Martijn
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