Re: [GNC] List of gnucash packages available in flathub looks limited
On 6/30/24 21:11, John Ralls wrote: On Jun 30, 2024, at 17:27, Bruce Olson wrote: On 6/30/24 15:56, John Ralls wrote: On Jun 30, 2024, at 1:55 PM, John Ralls wrote: I just noticed this after the v5.7 release today. I also don't see v5.7 available. Previously I was able to roll back to a previous version all the way to v4.12 if needed. I'm currently on v5.4 but would like to update to v5.7 since the last nightly builds I tested had no issues and looked good. The 5.7 flathub build failed after failing to download the documentation, though the exact same commit pushed to my repo as a test completed successfully last night. I've just started a retry. My retry failed because of a configuration failure in building perl. I've submitted https://github.com/flathub/flathub/issues/5371. There won't be a 5.7 release flatpak until flathub fixes their buildbot. Regards, John Ralls Thanks John! I installed v5.7 fromhttps://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak(gnucash-stable-C5.7-D5.7.flatpakref). I have everything I need fromhttps://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak. Followup on Flathub: One of their admins jumped on my issue and got it resolved and the 5.7 package is available now. Regards, John Ralls I ran "flatpak update" in the terminal to update to the latest flathub version v5.7 and I see a message that says GNOME 44 runtime is no longer supported as of March 20, 2024. I don't see this message when installing from from https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak (gnucash-stable-C5.7-D5.7.flatpakref) which used GNOME 46 runtime. This is the message I get: "The GNOME 44 runtime is no longer supported as of March 20, 2024. Please ask your application developer to migrate to a supported platform. Info: applications using this runtime: org.gnucash.GnuCash" I did not install the flathub version and stayed on v5.7. Build ID: git 5.7+(2024-06-29). I attached two text files to compare GnuCash from stable build to GnuCash from flathub. Regards, Bruce $ flatpak install gnucash-stable-C5.7-D5.7.flatpakref Required runtime for org.gnucash.GnuCash/x86_64/stable-C5.7-D5.7 (runtime/org.gnome.Platform/x86_64/46) found in remote flathub Do you want to install it? [Y/n]: Y org.gnucash.GnuCash permissions: ipc network fallback-x11 wayland x11 dri file access [1] dbus access [2] [1] host, xdg-run/gvfsd [2] org.gtk.vfs.* ID Branch Op Remote Download 1. [✓] org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 23.08 i flathub172.6 MB / 172.2 MB 2. [✓] org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 23.08-extra i flathub 19.2 MB / 172.2 MB 3. [✓] org.freedesktop.Platform.openh2642.4.1 i flathub 1.3 MB / 976.5 kB 4. [✓] org.gnome.Platform.Locale46 i flathub 18.1 kB / 367.7 MB 5. [✓] org.gnome.Platform 46 i flathub282.2 MB / 346.7 MB 6. [✓] org.gnucash.GnuCash.Locale stable-C5.7-D5.7 i gnucash-origin 5.2 kB / 8.2 MB 7. [✓] org.gnucash.GnuCash stable-C5.7-D5.7 i gnucash-origin 41.3 MB / 122.2 MB Installation complete. $ $ flatpak update Looking for updates… Info: runtime org.gnome.Platform branch 44 is end-of-life, with reason: The GNOME 44 runtime is no longer supported as of March 20, 2024. Please ask your application developer to migrate to a supported platform. Info: applications using this runtime: org.gnucash.GnuCash New org.gnucash.GnuCash permissions: file access [1] dbus access [2] [1] xdg-run/gvfsd [2] org.gtk.vfs.* ID Branch OpRemote Download 1. org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default22.08 u flathub< 148.2 MB 2. org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default22.08-extrau flathub< 148.2 MB 3. org.gnome.Platform.Locale 44 u flathub< 340.9 MB (partial) 4. org.gnome.Platform 44 u flathub< 321.4 MB 5. org.gnucash.GnuCash.Locale stable u flathub < 8.2 MB (partial) 6. org.gnucash.GnuCashstable u flathub< 120.8 MB Proceed with these changes to the system
Re: [GNC] Bug Version 5.7
Please file all bugs in bugs.gnucash.org On Mon, 1 July 2024, 2:16 pm Jan Lubach, wrote: > LS, > I encountered the following bug in the new version GnuCash 5.7 > The import qif file procedure has a bug. After trying to apply the qif > file, the application closes. After trying to open it again, it says > that the application is still in use. After clicking on "open anyway" the > qif file has not been imported. > I downgraded to vs 5.6 again and the qif file was imported as it should be > Greeting, Jan Lubach > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] GC crashing after upgrade
Hi Users, I just upgraded my Gnucash to 5.7.1 and it has crashed on me in a couple of instances. The first is when I try to delete an account and the second instance is when I try to apply changes when importing a QIF. I am using Gnucash Version: 5.7, Build ID: 5.7+(2024-06-29), Finance::Quote: 1.62Version: 5.7. I’m running on an Apple M1 chip and Macos, Sonoma, 14.5. Not sure if the crash report for Apple helps, but here are the first many lines. - Translated Report (Full Report Below) - Process: Gnucash [2757] Path: /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash Identifier:org.gnucash.Gnucash Version: 5.7-1 (5.7-1) Code Type: X86-64 (Translated) Parent Process:launchd [1] User ID: 501 Date/Time: 2024-07-01 14:30:51.2455 +1000 OS Version:macOS 14.5 (23F79) Report Version:12 Anonymous UUID:59769A89-7C35-0716-084D-F3B8CF91EE79 Time Awake Since Boot: 470 seconds System Integrity Protection: enabled Notes: PC register does not match crashing frame (0x0 vs 0x10B4197A3) Crashed Thread:0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type:EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0030 Exception Codes: 0x0001, 0x0030 Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 11 Segmentation fault: 11 Terminating Process: exc handler [2757] VM Region Info: 0x30 is not in any region. Bytes before following region: 4309135312 REGION TYPESTART - END [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD REGION DETAIL UNUSED SPACE AT START ---> __TEXT 100d83000-100de3000[ 384K] r-x/r-x SM=COW /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash Error Formulating Crash Report: PC register does not match crashing frame (0x0 vs 0x10B4197A3) Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libgtk-3.0.dylib 0x10b4197a3 gtk_tree_model_get_valist + 419 1 libgtk-3.0.dylib 0x10b41959e gtk_tree_model_get + 334 2 libgnc-gnome-utils.dylib 0x10a662b7b sort_by_string + 155 3 libgtk-3.0.dylib 0x10b424867 gtk_tree_model_sort_compare_func + 151 4 libglib-2.0.0.dylib0x10ed63ed1 g_sequence_sort_changed_iter + 241 5 libglib-2.0.0.dylib0x10ed63da4 g_sequence_sort_changed + 84 6 libgtk-3.0.dylib 0x10b423a6f gtk_tree_model_sort_row_changed + 399 7 libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 0x10afea80a g_closure_invoke + 298 8 libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 0x10b003aad signal_emit_unlocked_R + 1725 9 libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 0x10b00270b signal_emit_valist_unlocked + 2027 10 libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 0x10b002fab g_signal_emit + 171 11 libgtk-3.0.dylib 0x10b419abd gtk_tree_model_row_changed + 221 12 libgtk-3.0.dylib 0x10b41db1e gtk_tree_model_filter_row_changed + 542 13 libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 0x10afea80a g_closure_invoke + 298 14 libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 0x10b003aad signal_emit_unlocked_R + 1725 15 libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 0x10b00270b signal_emit_valist_unlocked + 2027 16 libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 0x10b002fab g_signal_emit + 171 17 libgtk-3.0.dylib 0x10b419abd gtk_tree_model_row_changed + 221 18 libgnc-gnome-utils.dylib 0x10a657951 clear_account_cached_values + 97 19 libgnc-gnome-utils.dylib 0x10a653dd7 gnc_tree_model_account_event_handler + 551 20 libgnc-engine.dylib0x10e755dc2 qof_event_generate_internal(QofInstance_s*, int, void*) + 114 21 libgnc-engine.dylib0x10e64e5b6 gnc_account_remove_child + 262 22 libgnc-engine.dylib0x10e64abc2 acc_free(QofInstance_s*) + 34 23 libgnc-engine.dylib0x10e758608 qof_commit_edit_part2 + 232 24 libgnc-gnome.dylib 0x10a174d8b do_delete_account(account_s*, account_s*, account_s*, account_s*) + 315 25 libgnc-gnome.dylib 0x10a1742db gnc_plugin_page_account_tree_cmd_delete_account(_GSimpleAction*, _GVariant*, void*) + 2667 26 libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 0x10afea80a g_closure_invoke + 298 27 libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 0x10b003aad signal_emit_unlocked_R + 1725 28 libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 0x10b00270b signal_emit_valist_unlocked + 2027 29 libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 0x10b002fab g_signal_emit + 171 30 libgio-2.0.0.dylib 0x10d9c9374 g_simple_action_activate + 148 31 lib
Re: [GNC] List of gnucash packages available in flathub looks limited
> On Jun 30, 2024, at 17:27, Bruce Olson wrote: > > On 6/30/24 15:56, John Ralls wrote: >>> On Jun 30, 2024, at 1:55 PM, John Ralls wrote: >>> >>> >>> I just noticed this after the v5.7 release today. I also don't see v5.7 >>> available. >>> Previously I was able to roll back to a previous version all the way to >>> v4.12 if needed. >>> >>> I'm currently on v5.4 but would like to update to v5.7 since the last >>> nightly builds I tested had no issues and looked good. >>> The 5.7 flathub build failed after failing to download the documentation, >>> though the exact same commit pushed to my repo as a test completed >>> successfully last night. I've just started a retry. >> My retry failed because of a configuration failure in building perl. I've >> submitted https://github.com/flathub/flathub/issues/5371. There won't be a >> 5.7 release flatpak until flathub fixes their buildbot. >> >> Regards, >> John Ralls > Thanks John! > > I installed v5.7 from https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak > (gnucash-stable-C5.7-D5.7.flatpakref). > > I have everything I need from https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak. Followup on Flathub: One of their admins jumped on my issue and got it resolved and the 5.7 package is available now. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] List of gnucash packages available in flathub looks limited
On 6/30/24 15:56, John Ralls wrote: On Jun 30, 2024, at 1:55 PM, John Ralls wrote: I just noticed this after the v5.7 release today. I also don't see v5.7 available. Previously I was able to roll back to a previous version all the way to v4.12 if needed. I'm currently on v5.4 but would like to update to v5.7 since the last nightly builds I tested had no issues and looked good. The 5.7 flathub build failed after failing to download the documentation, though the exact same commit pushed to my repo as a test completed successfully last night. I've just started a retry. My retry failed because of a configuration failure in building perl. I've submitted https://github.com/flathub/flathub/issues/5371. There won't be a 5.7 release flatpak until flathub fixes their buildbot. Regards, John Ralls Thanks John! I installed v5.7 from https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak (gnucash-stable-C5.7-D5.7.flatpakref). I have everything I need from https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak. Regards, Bruce ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] List of gnucash packages available in flathub looks limited
> On Jun 30, 2024, at 1:55 PM, John Ralls wrote: > > > >> On Jun 30, 2024, at 1:36 PM, Bruce Olson via gnucash-user >> wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> >> The list of GnuCash packages available in Flathub looks limited. I don't >> see where I have access to older versions as described on >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak. >> >> This is all I see at this time: >> >> $ flatpak remote-info --log flathub org.gnucash.GnuCash >>ID: org.gnucash.GnuCash >> Ref: app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/x86_64/stable >> Arch: x86_64 >>Branch: stable >> Collection: org.flathub.Stable >> Download: 120.1 MB >> Installed: 329.4 MB >> Runtime: org.gnome.Platform/x86_64/46 >> >> Sdk: org.gnome.Sdk/x86_64/46 >>Commit: 18c94f86a12c9823471647a83eacdceee74bc27681e8215136e632d66e65f998 >>Parent: b55451dd3981e245d4b545e6e81c50095234468856f33cfc3603533bc5d13425 >> Subject: Package gnucash 5.6-2 (1d1901bb) >> Date: 2024-04-29 21:48:11 + >> History: >> >>Commit: b55451dd3981e245d4b545e6e81c50095234468856f33cfc3603533bc5d13425 >> Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d) >> Date: 2024-04-02 01:33:43 + >> >>Commit: 8a04dbcba01b772ceed33ca6a06e1ab26b9a071c856ffc2274641b6443df0c2c >> Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d) >> Date: 2024-04-02 01:33:43 + >> >>Commit: dfa077ef4262b37c8c1a14d489012e2e45f81ad9950c0f24a2c4f8c1108573ff >> Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d) >> Date: 2024-04-02 01:14:33 + >> >> $ >> >> I just noticed this after the v5.7 release today. I also don't see v5.7 >> available. >> Previously I was able to roll back to a previous version all the way to >> v4.12 if needed. >> >> I'm currently on v5.4 but would like to update to v5.7 since the last >> nightly builds I tested had no issues and looked good. > > The 5.7 flathub build failed after failing to download the documentation, > though the exact same commit pushed to my repo as a test completed > successfully last night. I've just started a retry. My retry failed because of a configuration failure in building perl. I've submitted https://github.com/flathub/flathub/issues/5371. There won't be a 5.7 release flatpak until flathub fixes their buildbot. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] List of gnucash packages available in flathub looks limited
> On Jun 30, 2024, at 1:36 PM, Bruce Olson via gnucash-user > wrote: > > Greetings, > > The list of GnuCash packages available in Flathub looks limited. I don't see > where I have access to older versions as described on > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak. > > This is all I see at this time: > > $ flatpak remote-info --log flathub org.gnucash.GnuCash > ID: org.gnucash.GnuCash >Ref: app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/x86_64/stable > Arch: x86_64 > Branch: stable > Collection: org.flathub.Stable > Download: 120.1 MB > Installed: 329.4 MB >Runtime: org.gnome.Platform/x86_64/46 > >Sdk: org.gnome.Sdk/x86_64/46 > Commit: 18c94f86a12c9823471647a83eacdceee74bc27681e8215136e632d66e65f998 > Parent: b55451dd3981e245d4b545e6e81c50095234468856f33cfc3603533bc5d13425 >Subject: Package gnucash 5.6-2 (1d1901bb) > Date: 2024-04-29 21:48:11 + >History: > > Commit: b55451dd3981e245d4b545e6e81c50095234468856f33cfc3603533bc5d13425 >Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d) > Date: 2024-04-02 01:33:43 + > > Commit: 8a04dbcba01b772ceed33ca6a06e1ab26b9a071c856ffc2274641b6443df0c2c >Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d) > Date: 2024-04-02 01:33:43 + > > Commit: dfa077ef4262b37c8c1a14d489012e2e45f81ad9950c0f24a2c4f8c1108573ff >Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d) > Date: 2024-04-02 01:14:33 + > > $ > > I just noticed this after the v5.7 release today. I also don't see v5.7 > available. > Previously I was able to roll back to a previous version all the way to v4.12 > if needed. > > I'm currently on v5.4 but would like to update to v5.7 since the last nightly > builds I tested had no issues and looked good. The 5.7 flathub build failed after failing to download the documentation, though the exact same commit pushed to my repo as a test completed successfully last night. I've just started a retry. I can't account for what flathub makes available. All of the old flatpaks, both release and nightly, are available at https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] List of gnucash packages available in flathub looks limited
Greetings, The list of GnuCash packages available in Flathub looks limited. I don't see where I have access to older versions as described on https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak. This is all I see at this time: $ flatpak remote-info --log flathub org.gnucash.GnuCash ID: org.gnucash.GnuCash Ref: app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/x86_64/stable Arch: x86_64 Branch: stable Collection: org.flathub.Stable Download: 120.1 MB Installed: 329.4 MB Runtime: org.gnome.Platform/x86_64/46 Sdk: org.gnome.Sdk/x86_64/46 Commit: 18c94f86a12c9823471647a83eacdceee74bc27681e8215136e632d66e65f998 Parent: b55451dd3981e245d4b545e6e81c50095234468856f33cfc3603533bc5d13425 Subject: Package gnucash 5.6-2 (1d1901bb) Date: 2024-04-29 21:48:11 + History: Commit: b55451dd3981e245d4b545e6e81c50095234468856f33cfc3603533bc5d13425 Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d) Date: 2024-04-02 01:33:43 + Commit: 8a04dbcba01b772ceed33ca6a06e1ab26b9a071c856ffc2274641b6443df0c2c Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d) Date: 2024-04-02 01:33:43 + Commit: dfa077ef4262b37c8c1a14d489012e2e45f81ad9950c0f24a2c4f8c1108573ff Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d) Date: 2024-04-02 01:14:33 + $ I just noticed this after the v5.7 release today. I also don't see v5.7 available. Previously I was able to roll back to a previous version all the way to v4.12 if needed. I'm currently on v5.4 but would like to update to v5.7 since the last nightly builds I tested had no issues and looked good. Regards, Bruce ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Exchange rate fluctuation changes historic amounts in P&L and BS
No, P&Ls are not a re-evaluation at a specific date. That describes a Balance Sheet. P&L is a reporting of the results of transactions to expense and revenue accounts over a date range. (otherwise known as an Income Statement - there are entries for both in the GnuCash Reports menu. They are the same report) This is not a 'what if' report. Nothing unrealized belongs on it. Regards, Adrien On 6/30/24 6:25 AM, Fred Bone wrote: Why? Because the P&L is a (re-)valuation at a specific date (e.g. "today") and there's been an unrealised loss on your asset - the €150 is now worth only £128+ whereas you paid £132.27 for it, and you haven't accounted for this. (Of course, if the Euro subsequently rises enough against sterling this might even be reversed and become a gain.) Consider what happens if what you bought was actual euros (such as in preparation for a trip to France). They cost you £132+. If you bought them today instead, they'd cost you £128+. You made a £4(+-) loss by buying too soon. That's what the P&L is telling you. The figures ARE correct, at least insofar as you have informed Gnucash. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Exchange rate fluctuation changes historic amounts in P&L and BS
The transaction is set in stone, of its base currency. If you report in a different currency that can change based on exchange rates to the reporting currency. This is influenced by the Price Source of the report Options in the Commodities tab. Unfortunately, some of those options don't work quite right as I understand browsing previous threads and IRC. What I don't see is an option for 'nearest in time' to the transaction. Transactions themselves can cause exchange rate entries to the db, and that is what should be used in such a case. (really, I don't see a need to do a conversion at report time as that info already exists in the transaction - but this might only be true with Trading Accounts turned on.) There might be a bug report on this already, but if not, I'd suggest filing one. Regards, Adrien On 6/30/24 9:36 AM, G R Hewitt wrote: Fred, thank you for your reply. I'm afraid that I don't quite follow the logic of your explanation. To me, as far as I am aware, the P&L is, basically, 'How much in' minus 'How much out' equals a profit or a loss. A finalised transaction, surely, is set in stone - in this case 'Wood' at €150 cost me £132.27 on Thursday and was recorded as that in the journals. Come Monday, if the rate changes so that wood bought on the Monday now costs £128 does not mean I over-paid by £4.27. The price was correct at the time and now has changed, that is all. I have not gained or lost anything at all. I might think 'Hmm pity I didn't buy it today', but that is hindsight not accounting. Where I taking the figures from 'pen and ink' journals, the £132.27 and €150 would be recorded in the P&L as written in the journals. I can't see that I would hurry to find out the exchange rate and write £128 instead of £132.27 and then make a journal entry for £4.27 loss to balance the book. And that is just one entry, what if it were hundreds? If the P&L does not record the actual amounts, how can you ever come to rely on it. Suppose you had hundreds of items you could be £1000's of pounds out one way or the other if the rate changed on Monday and again on Tuesday, how would you ever know what your profit or loss actually was? When I was using Sage, the rate on the day was the rate recorded, it never changed if the following week when something else was purchased a different rate was applied. Apart from which, I always thought the Balance sheet is what was used to (re)valuate and this would support your reasoning - If my house was recorded as an asset of €250,000 and became €275,000 due to a rate change I'd be most please and may sell it; but if the revaluation showed it as €195,000 then I would not be so inclined. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.7 Released
Help translate GnuCash on Weblate: https://hosted.weblate.org/engage/gnucash/ Known Problems Complete list of all open bugs: https://bugs.gnucash.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=REOPENED&limit=0&list_id=8149&order=priority%2Cbug_severity&query_format=advanced Documentation Getting GnuCash for Windows and MacOS GnuCash is provided for both Microsoft Windows 10® and later and MacOS 10.13 (High Sierra)® and later in pre-built, all-in-one packages. An installer is provided for Microsoft Windows® while the MacOS® package is a disk image containing a drag-and-drop application bundle. GnuCash is also available as a flatpak from Flathub.org. Instructions for installing and running: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak The SHA256 Hashes for the downloadable files are: * b4b42c626350f3e79f7ca1f2173545cc63ddee1addf2460b1a1f1bf21bd1 gnucash-5.6.tar.bz2 * 50aebe914da63c3b668c6a0b86df3d583a200c378f0f16658bec299bbbd3 gnucash-5.6.tar.gz * dc6139469696168ddd13ad617a8fbd31c2389b0960a82bc2da1c0c5606b37f46 gnucash-5.6.setup.exe * 2cc91f36d9939065dac366058aae1a6a8c41cfe84850b6b549ee87ba075d50d4 Gnucash-Intel-5.6-1.dmg * 8ad9da28199074fc5ef604d4489a82413031290a06e5f6418fe85cceb5fa3f02 gnucash-docs-5.6.tar.gz Microsoft Windows: https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.7/gnucash-5.7.setup.exe https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.7/gnucash-5.7.setup.exe Apple macOS: https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.7/Gnucash-Intel-5.7-1.dmg https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.7/Gnucash-Intel-5.7-1.dmg Getting GnuCash as source code If you want to compile GnuCash 5.7 for yourself, the source code can be downloaded from: https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.7/gnucash-5.7.tar.bz2 https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.7/gnucash-5.7.tar.gz https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.7/gnucash-5.7.tar.bz2 https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.7/gnucash-5.7.tar.gz To compile GnuCash from the source code by yourself, you will need at least Gtk+ 3.22.29, Guile 2.0, Boost 1.67, WebKitGtk 2.4, GoogleTest 1.8.0, cmake 3.10 and SWIG 2.0.12. Please consult the README.dependencies file in the sources for the exact list of dependencies and versions. Getting the documentation Note that the documentation for unstable releases is not on the GnuCash website. It is built daily and may be found on the development server under the locale directory; "C" is English, "de" is German, and so on. The documentation is included in the MacOS and Windows application bundles. If you want to compile the GnuCash Documentation 5.7 for yourself, the source code can be downloaded from: Sourceforge: https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.7/gnucash-docs-5.7.tar.gz GitHub: https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.6/gnucash-docs-5.7.tar.gz You can also checkout the sources directly from the git repository as described at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git. About the Program GnuCash is a free, open source accounting program released under the GNU General Public License (GPL) and available for GNU/Linux, *BSD, Solaris, MacOS, and Microsoft Windows. Programming on GnuCash began in 1997, and its first stable release was in 1998. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Balance sheet totals showing zeros?
It's a mystery. I am in Canada, my region setting (in Windows 11) is Canada (and always has been), but the GnuCash defaults were coming up as US dollars. However, everything is set as it should be, which is what matters. Cheers, Ken On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 12:48 PM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > Ken, GnuCash should, by default, set those preferences to match your > computer's locale. If you are in Canada, unless you have a good reason > to use a different one, your OS should be set to Canada as your locale. > Then these preferences wouldn't be an issue. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 6/29/24 11:22 AM, Ken McEvoy wrote: > > Ultimately, it did turn out to be a currency issue. When I started using > > gnucash (way back in version 2), I never specified or worried about > > currency, because everything I did was in Canadian dollars, and all the > > reports worked as anticipated. Somewhere along the line, there must have > > been a change involving how currency was used to generate reports (or > maybe > > I specified something as Canadian dollars that I should have left alone). > > > > In any case, once I ensured that all my accounts were set to Canadian > > dollars, and the currency of choice on the commodities tab of the report > > options was set to Canadian dollars, all the reports started to work > again > > as I had hoped. > > > > However, for a while I was going into the options/commodities every time > I > > ran a report to switch the currency to CAD. Under the > > Edit/Preferences/Accounts tab, I had default currency set to 'choose' and > > 'CAD (Canadian dollar')', but it took me a while to realize that I also > had > > to do this under Edit/Preferences/Reports as well. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- *Joy shared is doubled. Pain shared is halved.* - Spider Robinson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Balance sheet totals showing zeros?
Ken, GnuCash should, by default, set those preferences to match your computer's locale. If you are in Canada, unless you have a good reason to use a different one, your OS should be set to Canada as your locale. Then these preferences wouldn't be an issue. Regards, Adrien On 6/29/24 11:22 AM, Ken McEvoy wrote: Ultimately, it did turn out to be a currency issue. When I started using gnucash (way back in version 2), I never specified or worried about currency, because everything I did was in Canadian dollars, and all the reports worked as anticipated. Somewhere along the line, there must have been a change involving how currency was used to generate reports (or maybe I specified something as Canadian dollars that I should have left alone). In any case, once I ensured that all my accounts were set to Canadian dollars, and the currency of choice on the commodities tab of the report options was set to Canadian dollars, all the reports started to work again as I had hoped. However, for a while I was going into the options/commodities every time I ran a report to switch the currency to CAD. Under the Edit/Preferences/Accounts tab, I had default currency set to 'choose' and 'CAD (Canadian dollar')', but it took me a while to realize that I also had to do this under Edit/Preferences/Reports as well. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Exchange rate fluctuation changes historic amounts in P&L and BS
Fred, thank you for your reply. I'm afraid that I don't quite follow the logic of your explanation. To me, as far as I am aware, the P&L is, basically, 'How much in' minus 'How much out' equals a profit or a loss. A finalised transaction, surely, is set in stone - in this case 'Wood' at €150 cost me £132.27 on Thursday and was recorded as that in the journals. Come Monday, if the rate changes so that wood bought on the Monday now costs £128 does not mean I over-paid by £4.27. The price was correct at the time and now has changed, that is all. I have not gained or lost anything at all. I might think 'Hmm pity I didn't buy it today', but that is hindsight not accounting. Where I taking the figures from 'pen and ink' journals, the £132.27 and €150 would be recorded in the P&L as written in the journals. I can't see that I would hurry to find out the exchange rate and write £128 instead of £132.27 and then make a journal entry for £4.27 loss to balance the book. And that is just one entry, what if it were hundreds? If the P&L does not record the actual amounts, how can you ever come to rely on it. Suppose you had hundreds of items you could be £1000's of pounds out one way or the other if the rate changed on Monday and again on Tuesday, how would you ever know what your profit or loss actually was? When I was using Sage, the rate on the day was the rate recorded, it never changed if the following week when something else was purchased a different rate was applied. Apart from which, I always thought the Balance sheet is what was used to (re)valuate and this would support your reasoning - If my house was recorded as an asset of €250,000 and became €275,000 due to a rate change I'd be most please and may sell it; but if the revaluation showed it as €195,000 then I would not be so inclined. On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 at 12:27, Fred Bone wrote: > On 29 June 2024 at 22:05, G R Hewitt said: > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Basics: > > GnuCash 5.6; MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6 > > Using Sterling as the base currency and Euros. > > > > The problem: > > A few days ago I bought something in euros (€150) and paid for it in > > sterling (£132.27) and the GnuCash system worked out that the rate was > > 0.8818. In the P&L the item was properly shown as £132.27. The card > > account payment showed £132.27 and the euro expense account showed > > €150.00. All well and good. > > > > I bought something else a few days later in the same manner as above, but > > the exchange rate had changed, all well and good too - card account and > > expense account transactions were correct. > > > > On running the P&L I noted that the £132.27 of the first transaction > > above was now less at around £128 and some pence instead of the expected > > £132.27. I checked the card account and it was still at £132.27 and the > > euro account was still at €150. > > > > Why is this and is there a way to have the correct figures shown in the > > P&L without them jumping up and down as the rate changes. > > Why? Because the P&L is a (re-)valuation at a specific date (e.g. > "today") and there's been an unrealised loss on your asset - the €150 is > now worth only £128+ whereas you paid £132.27 for it, and you haven't > accounted for this. (Of course, if the Euro subsequently rises enough > against sterling this might even be reversed and become a gain.) > > Consider what happens if what you bought was actual euros (such as in > preparation for a trip to France). They cost you £132+. If you bought > them today instead, they'd cost you £128+. You made a £4(+-) loss by > buying too soon. That's what the P&L is telling you. > > The figures ARE correct, at least insofar as you have informed Gnucash. > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Exchange rate fluctuation changes historic amounts in P&L and BS
On 29 June 2024 at 22:05, G R Hewitt said: > Hello Everyone, > > Basics: > GnuCash 5.6; MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6 > Using Sterling as the base currency and Euros. > > The problem: > A few days ago I bought something in euros (€150) and paid for it in > sterling (£132.27) and the GnuCash system worked out that the rate was > 0.8818. In the P&L the item was properly shown as £132.27. The card > account payment showed £132.27 and the euro expense account showed > €150.00. All well and good. > > I bought something else a few days later in the same manner as above, but > the exchange rate had changed, all well and good too - card account and > expense account transactions were correct. > > On running the P&L I noted that the £132.27 of the first transaction > above was now less at around £128 and some pence instead of the expected > £132.27. I checked the card account and it was still at £132.27 and the > euro account was still at €150. > > Why is this and is there a way to have the correct figures shown in the > P&L without them jumping up and down as the rate changes. Why? Because the P&L is a (re-)valuation at a specific date (e.g. "today") and there's been an unrealised loss on your asset - the €150 is now worth only £128+ whereas you paid £132.27 for it, and you haven't accounted for this. (Of course, if the Euro subsequently rises enough against sterling this might even be reversed and become a gain.) Consider what happens if what you bought was actual euros (such as in preparation for a trip to France). They cost you £132+. If you bought them today instead, they'd cost you £128+. You made a £4(+-) loss by buying too soon. That's what the P&L is telling you. The figures ARE correct, at least insofar as you have informed Gnucash. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
