Re: [GNC] GnuCash list: gmane
Gmane is (thanks heavens) definitely not dead. I am at this very moment reading your post via Gmane. The Thunderbird email program, which I use for normal day-to-day email, will also connect to usenet services (like gmane) and presents those posts with the same UI as regular emails. It is the best way of reading mailing lists as far as I am concerned since I get to browse the posts and decided what I want to read without using my machine's resources to download and store them all. It used to be possible to post through Gmane as well but that stopped working for me several years ago (maybe when it changed from gmane.org to gmane.io?) No problem, when I need to post, I subscribe to the mailing list but turn off delivery so I can post directly to the list but still read via Gmane/Thunderbird. Gmane is also one of the few remaining useful services on the internet that hasn't tried to monitize its users and is run by a lot of personal sweat on the part of it's owner. And no, I'm not still using a 300 baud modem. :-) reading your post On 7/7/20 10:09 AM, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: Am 07.07.20 um 16:54 schrieb Adrien Monteleone: If it is dead, we should remove the reference. It is not really dead, but you can currently only access it by a news reader. Do you remember that kind of software? Regards Frank ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] US Bans Free tax Software
On 4/10/19 10:33 PM, David Cousens wrote: Just noticed this post. https://news.yahoo.com/free-irs-software-filing-taxes-191746938.html?fbclid=IwAR3-GIPM3S6SazRqcyKb1Lywu4wMhtWB9Je8YU_cK_usuW4FLf13y07ATJs. Impact on the use of GnuCash for Tax preparation in the US could be profound. Looks like the US government is trying to head the same way as the Brits. Australia has done something similar recently in that one has to join a consortium of software developers (at a significant fee) to get full access to the information needed to build in software communication to the ATO. The ATO no longer publishes the protocols in use and has outsourced developmemnt of the protocols to a non-government consortium I'm don't think will have any effect on Gnucash today because Gnucash does not do tax preparation: filling out IRS forms and submitting them electronically to the IRS. I doubt it would, given the yearly changes in the forms and regulations. Never the less it is discouraging news. The IRS could, and should provide active forms, with the info they have on taxpayers pre-entered and with interactive help for entering the rest of it. The U.S. Democrats and Republicans seem to have no problems coming together when the target in screwing American tax payers to the benefit of large corporations. Business as usual. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Keeping two sets of books
JFTR, the OP was using Mysql, I am using Postgresql. I use many other Postgresql tools and have code (mine and third-party) that accesses my databases (including the Gnucash ones) and have never had anything make a peep about keyrings, only Gnucash. Google Chrome, although it has nothing to do with Postgresql, also generates the same kind of keyring prompts (but I don't use it so I don't care). I agree there is probably something messed up on my system regarding the keyring and login, but I don't see that Postgresql (and analogously Mysql) themselves care. Which leaves Gnucash and libdbi as the prime suspects. Since, to me, the annoyance is less than the time it would probably take to research/fix it, I will wait until I serendipitously encounter some post from someone with the same problem who has fixed it. Or until I upgrade someday and the problem magically disappears. :-) On 4/3/19 2:28 AM, Colin Law wrote: I think Adrien is correct, mysql needs access to the keyring in order to check user access permissions, though if you logon to the PC manually, entering your password, then I would not have expected it to have to ask again, and it certainly should not happen each time you run gnucash. I think it is most likely an issue with your system and mysql though, not a GnuCash issue. Colin On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 23:08, Stuart McGraw wrote: It opens without the popup. Which I suppose implies that the keyring checking is occurring in gnucash code conditionally for database access, or in whatever api gnucash uses for database access (libdbi?), or possibly in database-specific api libdbi uses (eg libpq(?) for Postgresql). I don't think it's the latter since I've not noticed anything about it in the libpq docs but I could have easily missed something. On 4/2/19 3:09 PM, Colin Law wrote: If, as an experiment, you start a new accounts file and save it as xml, then shutdown and restart gnucash, which should then open the xml file, do you get the popup? Colin On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 18:21, Stuart McGraw wrote: No auto-login here and I think the app that needs an option to ignore the keyring check entirely is Gnucash (not the database which isn't an app). As for creating a different default keyring, I'll look into that sometime (so thanks for the direction to look!) but right now, clicking the Cancel button is the easiest way out. As annoyances go it is nowhere near as bad as those caused by Gnome/GTK but that's a subject for a different list. :-) There are multiple reasons for that pop-up and a solution for each. One involves disabling automatic login to the desktop. (if you use it) You can also create a different ‘default’ keyring and set it to non-protected. (so it is visible to anyone—not wise unless you store nothing in it.) Some apps also let you tell them to ignore the keyring check entirely. (Chrome is one such app, not sure about MySQL) Regards, Adrien On Mar 31, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Stuart McGraw wrote: I do have a long persisting problem where I am asked every time for a password for my keyring (something I've never used, set up, or want) but since clicking "Cancel" results in gnucash opening fine I've never bothered to try to fix it. (I'm running gnucash on Ubuntu linux.) ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Keeping two sets of books
It opens without the popup. Which I suppose implies that the keyring checking is occurring in gnucash code conditionally for database access, or in whatever api gnucash uses for database access (libdbi?), or possibly in database-specific api libdbi uses (eg libpq(?) for Postgresql). I don't think it's the latter since I've not noticed anything about it in the libpq docs but I could have easily missed something. On 4/2/19 3:09 PM, Colin Law wrote: If, as an experiment, you start a new accounts file and save it as xml, then shutdown and restart gnucash, which should then open the xml file, do you get the popup? Colin On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 18:21, Stuart McGraw wrote: No auto-login here and I think the app that needs an option to ignore the keyring check entirely is Gnucash (not the database which isn't an app). As for creating a different default keyring, I'll look into that sometime (so thanks for the direction to look!) but right now, clicking the Cancel button is the easiest way out. As annoyances go it is nowhere near as bad as those caused by Gnome/GTK but that's a subject for a different list. :-) There are multiple reasons for that pop-up and a solution for each. One involves disabling automatic login to the desktop. (if you use it) You can also create a different ‘default’ keyring and set it to non-protected. (so it is visible to anyone—not wise unless you store nothing in it.) Some apps also let you tell them to ignore the keyring check entirely. (Chrome is one such app, not sure about MySQL) Regards, Adrien On Mar 31, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Stuart McGraw wrote: I do have a long persisting problem where I am asked every time for a password for my keyring (something I've never used, set up, or want) but since clicking "Cancel" results in gnucash opening fine I've never bothered to try to fix it. (I'm running gnucash on Ubuntu linux.) ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Keeping two sets of books
No auto-login here and I think the app that needs an option to ignore the keyring check entirely is Gnucash (not the database which isn't an app). As for creating a different default keyring, I'll look into that sometime (so thanks for the direction to look!) but right now, clicking the Cancel button is the easiest way out. As annoyances go it is nowhere near as bad as those caused by Gnome/GTK but that's a subject for a different list. :-) There are multiple reasons for that pop-up and a solution for each. One involves disabling automatic login to the desktop. (if you use it) You can also create a different ‘default’ keyring and set it to non-protected. (so it is visible to anyone—not wise unless you store nothing in it.) Some apps also let you tell them to ignore the keyring check entirely. (Chrome is one such app, not sure about MySQL) Regards, Adrien On Mar 31, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Stuart McGraw wrote: I do have a long persisting problem where I am asked every time for a password for my keyring (something I've never used, set up, or want) but since clicking "Cancel" results in gnucash opening fine I've never bothered to try to fix it. (I'm running gnucash on Ubuntu linux.) ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Keeping two sets of books
On 3/30/19 1:40 PM, taf wrote: Hello, I've just started using Gnucash. In the past I've used a basic bookkeeping package, but it's no longer available. I'm trying to keep two sets of books... one for personal accounting and one for a corporation. I'm running Version 3.4 Build ID: 3.4+ (2018-12-30) on Windows 7; I've set up the books, saving the books into two different MySql data bases with separate users and passwords. So far so good. I can switch between sets of books by selecting File->Open...-> and then in the Open dialog, selecting MySql data format and specifying database, userid, and password. This seems to be a bit klunky... am I missing something fundamental? Ideally I'd like to have two desktop shortcuts, one to use each set of books, specifying at least format, database and user within the shortcut. So... any help? Running 'gnucash --help' as a command (and likely the same info is in the help somewhere) show that the gnucash command takes an argument that is the the datafile to open. It seems 'datafile' can also be a url for a database connection. Thus I have two desktop shortcuts that run respectively the commands: gnucash postgres://stuart:x@localhost/gc-home gnucash postgres://stuart:x@localhost/gc-business where "stuart" is the *database* (not OS) user account, "x" the database password "gc-home" and "gc-business" the names of the databases for each set of books. I presume something similar will work for mysql. I do have a long persisting problem where I am asked every time for a password for my keyring (something I've never used, set up, or want) but since clicking "Cancel" results in gnucash opening fine I've never bothered to try to fix it. (I'm running gnucash on Ubuntu linux.) It is a big plus for me to have both sets of books available from the same OS user account. As others point out, settings etc will be the same for both sets of books. For me, that is an advantage. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
