Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11

2022-09-13 Thread nvsoar

FWIW - Revo Uninstaller has worked well for me.  nvsoar

On 09/12/22 13:20, David Carlson wrote:

Also, in your thread started last May you mentioned an adventure with
release 4.0 and 4.10, after which you may not have had a clean uninstall.
Have you tried using either the Windows uninstaller or a third party
uninstaller?  I wish I could remember the name of the third party
uninstaller that used to work very well, at least several years ago.

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 3:03 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:


Richard (Clarkson),

You mentioned in the other thread that you also tried from PowerShell.

Is there no output there when it fails to completely open?

Have you tried to view the Windows Logs to see if any warnings or errors
were reported about the time you tried to start GnuCash?

Of course, if you can get a Trace File (see the wiki) and/or stack trace
that might help too.

And to confirm - you downloaded GnuCash *from* the links on gnucash.org,
and not somewhere else? (which take you to the GnuCash SourceForge
project page)

Regards,
Adrien

On 9/10/22 6:03 PM, Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user wrote:

Yes I use the windows installer and I have tried letting the installer

delete the previous version and have also tried deleting the previous
version myself.

From: David Carlson 
Sent: 10 September 2022 17:33
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: Richard Clarkson ; Gnucash Users <

gnucash-user@gnucash.org>

Subject: Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on

Windows 11

Are you using the windows installer as downloaded from the Gnucash.org

website for each gnucash version?

Do you let the installer delete the existing version or do you use

another method?


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Re: [GNC] Stock Split - am I doing this right?

2022-07-30 Thread nvsoar

On 07/30/22 16:10, replicon wrote:

I'm trying to capture the AMZN stock split that took place a while back.

I was surprised by the UI, since instead of "enter split ratio" or
something like that, it wants me to manually calculate additional stock.

Is the correct way to do it:

- Multiply stock holdings by 19, and add that as additional stock (since
it's 20-to-1)
- Set the "new price" to the value it had when the split occurred

My concern is, since stock purchases we track in GNUCash include the basis,
doesn't the stock split tool cause it to lose track of cost basis?

I imagine the correct way to track things like capital gains is that any
transaction where stock was received at a certain price should be
supplanted with a new transaction for 20x that much stock, at 1/20 of the
value at time of receipt. Is that not correct? Or is that actually
happening under the hood without my noticing?

Thanks!


FWIW - costbasis.com  has assisted me in getting numerous stock 
transaction calculations correctly.  No charge, donations accepted.   nvsoar



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Re: [GNC] Clearing due invoice reminder

2021-10-19 Thread nvsoar

On 10/19/21 14:07, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 19 Oct 2021, Geert Janssens wrote:


The way to fix it is described here: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/
Business_Features_Issues#Unposting_and_reposting_a_paid_invoice_loses_its_payment 



Geert,

That URL displayed an empty page. The suggestion on it to search for the
topic on another page also returned an empty page.

Ah, well. Thanks,

Rich
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FWIW - use the entire link

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Business_Features_Issues#Unposting_and_reposting_a_paid_invoice_loses_its_payment

regards,, nvsoar

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Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

2021-06-03 Thread nvsoar

On 06/03/21 11:14, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:



The only problem I have is that it is far too easy (IMO, IME!) to
accidentally create or use Orphan-* and Imbalance-* accounts just by
hitting the tab key one time too many. I'd prefer to be able to set an
option to disable that and to force me to balance the transaction
before leaving it.


You mean by (on the fly) creating an account with a name like 
"Imbalance" (or "Not-yet-assigned") to serve as a placeholder for when 
you don't know where it should go? That anything in there means an 
issue yet to be addressed? Gee, gnucash comes with that built in.


I know if the ONLY books you are keeping under gnucash are informal 
personal books, you might think it easy to just "create an account" on 
the fly. But some of us are keeping more formal books and might need 
to consult with somebody before making that decision. Sometimes it was 
as simple as getting an answer to "what was that item?" in a packet of 
receipts submitted for reimbursements.  Maybe need to get the 
accountant involved, maybe the board of directors, or the owner(s) of 
a business.


Note that "Imbalance"isn't the only sort of special account used to 
hold amounts until resolved. Many. if not most businesses have a 
"Suspense" account used when a payment comes in without necessary 
information to determine "what for". Then somebody's job to resolve 
everything in suspense. Businesses that do not ordinarily handle cash 
(and so not making daily bank deposits) might have an "undeposited 
cash" account to deal with rare cash situations.


Michael D Novack
Roger that.  I use a 'Pending Exchange' account when I haven't  yet 
figured out the situation at hand.
Many thanks and blessings to all who contribute to the health of 
GnuCash.  nvsoar

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Re: [GNC] entry point error after recent automatic windows 10 update

2021-02-28 Thread nvsoar

On 02/28/21 09:23, John Ralls wrote:



On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:46 PM, pholck  wrote:

DIrectly following latest automatic update of Windows 10, I have the exact
same error pop up (I am using gnucash 4.4). Fortunately in my case, after I
click "OK" to the "Entry Point Not Found" error, and then reclick about 10
times, GnuCash starts up for me (apparently despite the missing
libgncmod-app-utils.dll). I have not give a full test that it is running
properly, but so far no issues.

If anyone has any fixes for this issue (as I am concerned that at some point
multiple clicking of the OK button will cease to work for me) do let me
know!

At any rate, given Laurel's issues, I think it's pretty certain this error
is a result of something updating Windows 10 causes...

libgncmod-app-utils.dll was renamed to libgnc-app-utils.dll in GnuCash 4.x so 
if something is trying to link it it's a leftover from GnuCash 3.x or earlier. 
It seems unlikely that Windows updates would have anything to do with it.

As Geert mentioned back in November, the uninstaller doesn't always get 
everything. That may be because its manifest is incomplete or because the file 
in question is left over from a previous installation whose uninstaller has 
been removed.

I just checked the registry and user directory on my Windows VM for mentions of 
libgnc-app-utils or libgncmod-app-utils and found nothing, so I think that both 
you and Ms. Hargis must have artifacts from previous installations on your 
system. Please try the following:

Uninstall GnuCash using Apps and Features (right-click on the start icon, it's 
the first item in the menu).
Open Windows File Explorer and navigate to Local Disk (C:) > Program Files 
(x86). Delete the gnucash directory if there is one.
If you have ever installed GnuCash to some other location check that as well 
and make sure that the gnucash directory is deleted. If you're not sure about 
that use Windows File Explorers search to search all disks for libgnc*.dll. 
Delete any that you find.
Empty the trash.
Install GnuCash 4.4.

Regards,
John Ralls
FWIW - I have found that the free version of Revo Uninstaller does a 
good job of removing a windows program.  In addition, take a look at 
CCleaner as well for further clean up.  My experience with these free 
versions has been trouble free.  That said, there can be no guarantees 
when things get all twisted up.  A choice for finding files on Windows 
is a free program called Everything.  I have no connection to any of 
these programs.  nvsoar

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Re: [GNC] Multi-split multi-currency Transaction Import from CSV

2020-11-27 Thread nvsoar

On 11/27/20 07:50, Anton via gnucash-user wrote:

Dear community,

Is the multi-split multi-currency transactino import from CSV still known to be 
making errors and thus dangerous to use / not stable yet? Or is it safe to use 
with the latest GNU version?

I found a few threads discussing this issue of the importer, and not sure what 
the current state is. Please advise.

Many thanks,
Anton


snip - FWIW -  Seems to me that two books may be called for given the 
arbitrary currency transactions.  nvsoar


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Re: [GNC] entry point error after recent automatic windows 10 update

2020-11-26 Thread nvsoar

On 11/26/20 13:57, laurel hargis wrote:

Nvsoar:  I am using revo. Do I only uninstall the c program x86 exe files?
It shows me an entire tree with accounts, invoices , lLots of files


snip

Provided I have a pair of complete backups stored remotely; particularly 
of the data;  my procedure is to delete everything that the revo 
uninstaller finds using the 'medium' or 'maximum' procedure.   _nvsoar


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Re: [GNC] entry point error after recent automatic windows 10 update

2020-11-25 Thread nvsoar

On 11/25/20 19:19, David Cousens wrote:

Laurel,

Uninstalling and reinstalling the Windows 10 system should be a last resort.

*Before you do that, at least make a copy of all the data files in your user
directory either on a USB stick or a copy to another computer*. *Don't let a
technician reinstall it without doing this first*. Your user files will be
stored in C:/Users// where you will need to substitute your
actual user name on the computer for the placeholder  in the
above path.  Copy all files in that location onto a USB stick or other
medium before attempting a reinstall of Windows. You will then be able to
restore your user data files from the USB stick if you do have to do a
Windows reinstall and reinstall all programs.  That should prevent any loss
of data stored in the GNuCash files.

GnuCash 4.2 should not be looking for that file in that location which may
suggest that the initial install of GC 4.2 has perhaps not completely
removed all files from a previous version (which it should do during the
install procedure) and that an outdated dll file is being accessed and in
turn is looking for a routine in a dll which no longer exists.  AFAIK there
have been some rewrites of the GnuCash library files recently which could
lead to this.

You could also try making sure any subsequent Windows updates are installed
and that Windows 10 itself is fully up to date.

Try manually removing GnuCash using the Control Panel  programs tab before
reinstalling GnuCash from a fresh download of 4.2. If old files have not
been removed properly this may unload them.

If that doesn't work I would then try reinstalling the version you had
previously and see if it works  Doing a manual uninstall of the previous
version  from the control panel after a reinstall of the old version should
then get rid of any previous program files which may have been left in
place.  Then follow that by reinstalling GC 4.2.

David



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Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html
snip - I support the above approach suggested by David Cousens. FWIW - I 
use the Revo Uninstaller because I found that the Windows uninstaller 
still leaves stuff hanging around.  As for file finding I use an 
application called Everything that indexes all windows files - much 
faster than Windows search.  (Links are 
https://www.revouninstaller.com/  and https://www.voidtools.com/) _nvsoar

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Re: [GNC] Make PDF from reports

2020-10-21 Thread nvsoar

On 10/20/20 09:02, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
If I recall correctly, there is are PDF issues on Windows and Mac. You 
should be able to Export the report as HTML, open with a modern 
browser and print to paper or PDF from there. You'll need a PDF 
virtual printer however. Win10 includes one built-in and you might be 
able to install it separately on Win7, but if not, look into Bullzip. 
It is free for personal use.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/19/20 7:05 PM, Derek Zehr wrote:

Hello,


I just created my first-ever report in GnuCash, to report some 
finances with
a forum I'm involved with. This is the window I get when I hit Make 
PDF, and
specify a valid file name in my documents folder. GnuCash Version: 
4.1 Build

ID: 4.1+(2020-07-25) on Windows 7.
Derek Zehr

Another choice for a pdf printer is foxit reader version 9.7
https://www.filepuma.com/download/foxit_reader_9.7.1.29511-24443/
nvsoar
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Re: [GNC] Installing on Windows 10 (with Defender)

2020-08-03 Thread nvsoar

On 08/03/20 08:06, GTI .H wrote:

Em seg., 3 de ago. de 2020 às 00:41, Peter West  escreveu:


My brother-in-law in the US (I’m in Oz) tried on my recommendation to
install Gnucash 4.1 from the gnucash.org <http://gnucash.org/> site.

The install was initially blocked by Defender, but he managed to overcome
that. When he tried to run the program, the complaint was about missing
.dll files in C:\Program files (x86)\gnucash\bin\

As I don’t know about Windows 10, can someone please tell me the way to
perform the install correctly in this case?

Thanks.


For many years I installed GnuCahs on Windows 10 with defender enabled
using the .exe installation file.

I've never had any problems.

I'm currently running v4.1 well, and it was the first master update that I
haven't noticed any problems with so far.

*Congratulations DEVs!*


--
Regards
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Sounds to me that there is a fault in the downloaded install file. I 
suggest re-downloading the .exe file; checkg the hash code for accuracy 
of the downloaded file; and then installing the new download file.


Do not believe the Defender is problem.  Windows will ask if you really 
want to install the GnuCash install file.

All the best, nvsoar
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Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?

2020-07-12 Thread nvsoar

FWIW - For me the pop ups are confusing.  I delete and hope it works out.
A million thanks for a great application.
All the best from the Carson Valley,
nvsoar

On 07/12/20 15:15, jean laroche wrote:
The thing is, there's a good chance we won't know if somebody uses the 
feature and happens to not be on this forum, which is very likely.
So out of caution, I would err on the side of keeping it. The code 
bloat isn't enormous. In my PR I removed a bit of it, and simplified 
things a bit.
I know that as a user, I really dislike when features disappear... (if 
I happen to use them).
I think the onus is on us to justify why it's really bad to keep the 
feature.


Jean
P.S. Nobody's suggesting to remove reconciling! I think it was a 
misunderstanding from the start!



On 7/12/2020 3:02 PM, John Ralls wrote:

Larry,

Thanks for the offer, but I wouldn't want to turn our users into more 
product for survey monkey. Besides, I'm not looking for votes, I'm 
looking for reasons why removing the dialogs might be a bad thing. A 
single person with a persuasive reason would outweigh all of the 
"don't cares".


To your points: A Scheduled Transaction is an even better reminder 
and quick fill (aka autocomplete) in the register will fill in the 
last payment account too. What quickfill won't do is pre-populate the 
credit field with the reconciled balance.


Regards,
John Ralls


On Jul 12, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Larry Long  wrote:

John, I almost always pay off entire credit card balances, so I 
rarely ever use the "interest charge" pop-up.However, I do use the 
"interest earned" pop-up associated with bank accounts.
I find it a convenient reminder for me to enter that figure before I 
begin checking-off transactions in the reconcile window.Similarly, I 
use (and appreciate) the "payment transaction" pop-up window 
associated with credit card accounts.  The fact that it remembers 
and prepopulates my usual source account for the payment is also a 
handy convenience for me.

Could I do without these two features?  Certainly.
Do I find them helpful and time-saving for me?  Yes.Compelling 
reasons?  While I find them helpful, I can't say that I have any.
If you want a survey of your users, I don't believe that this list 
is the best method.
I would suggest that you set up a free account on Survey Monkey, 
create your questions there and post a link on this list.  It will 
accumulate the results for you and is much less effort than trying 
to track responses here.
I'd be happy to create one for you based on what you asked below.  
However, if you wanted to write your own questions, it might be 
better for you to do it.
Meanwhile, a huge "Thank You" to you and the entire team for all the 
effort that you folks put into the software--and in answering 
questions on this list!

Regards,Larry Long


On Sunday, July 12, 2020, John Ralls wrote: > > Frank and I have 
both opined on https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that 
the whole
interest payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to 
that opinion that so is the payment
transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes reconciling a 
credit card account. It's a lot of
program complexity that relieves the user of very little work 
indeed: Those interest and payment
transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in 
the register before and after
reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an obvious 
candidate for a scheduled transaction.
But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated 
disagreement. I want to get that out
of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the interest and 
payment transfer automatic popups
and the interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and 
what compelling reason do you have

for objecting?

Regards,
John Ralls



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Re: [GNC] Potential regression: PDFs generated using "Make PDF" have a superfluous blank page

2020-06-29 Thread nvsoar

On 06/29/20 03:31, Yves-Eric Martin wrote:

Hi all,

(Full bug report below)

I am having a PDF issue trying to upgrade from 3.7 to 4.0, but traced the
problem back to 3.8. The invoice PDFs generated using "Make PDF" have a
superfluous blank page. I first thought the problem may be with my heavily
customized CSS, but I was able to reproduce the issue with the
vanilla invoices (Easy / Printable / Fancy).

Any idea what introduced this change? Is a fix needed?

And short of manually editing the PDFs, is there a workaround to remove
that extra blank page on the GnuCash side, maybe editing some SCM files?
Thank you.


Full bug report:

GnuCash versions: tested all stable from 3.5 to 4.0

OS: MacOS Catalina (10.15.5)

Problem: Invoice PDFs generated using "Make PDF" have a superfluous blank
page.

Versions not affected: 3.5, 3.6, 3.7

Versions affected: 3.8, 3.9, 3.10, 3.11, 4.0

Steps to reproduce:
1) Create a dummy invoice with a single line
2) Create an Easy Invoice: Reports > Business > Easy Invoice
3) Select the dummy invoice: Edit > Report Options > General > Invoice
Number > Select the dummy invoice
4) Make Pdf

Expected behavior: The generated PDF has only 1 page.

Current behavior (since 3.8): The generated PDF has a superfluous blank
page.

Comparison of various invoice PDFs, generated with 3.7 and 3.8:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h8hwhy43uiz9c8m/AADslcR3uJtfXy5Q7GTn6FqVa?dl=0
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If having the blank page really bothers you take a look at PDFTK (pdf 
tool kit) - does a good job manipulating pages of pdf documents.  All 
the best - nvsoar


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Re: [GNC] Changing account tree on large database

2019-04-26 Thread nvsoar

On 04/26/19 16:18, Tommy Trussell wrote:

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 4:53 PM David Carlson 
wrote:


Strongly consider only moving one or two years data to GnuCash.


I agree. I found that I could import a lot more, but I found I was going
crazy trying to make everything look right, which ultimately seemed
pointless for things like long-ago closed bank accounts etc.

Since I had been using Quicken since the 1990s I had a number of
"historical" transactions I MIGHT conceivably want to look up, so I
exported those and kept the (enormous) QIF files. Any time I want to find a
transaction I can just do a few searches through the QIF file and find the
transaction date and the amount. If I really really want to, I COULD create
a "historical" GnuCash book with the imported data and just ignore the odd
balances etc.

(I'm looking through my data and found that I kept a complete QIF I
exported in 2000, and then another one I exported in 2007. I believe 2007
is when I gave up on Quicken for good, so my original GnuCash-only data was
based upon 2006 and 2007 transactions only.)


snip

FWIW - if Quicken will export to a .csv file then I think I would 
download the entire Quicken file, and then import to GnuCash only those 
files that I need to refer to, and leave the rest as an archive in the 
.csv file.

nvsoar

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Re: [GNC] Error While Saving in GnuCash 3.5 on Win7-64

2019-04-05 Thread nvsoar

On 04/05/19 13:14, Chris Graves wrote:

As a test on Windows 10, I made the following directory hierarchy, tried
saving and got the same error.
C:\Users\chris\Documents\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash Files

After I renamed "Thorough C & D" to "Thorough C and D", the save worked
just fine.

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 4:03 PM Greg Feneis  wrote:


snip
For info - See 
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/fileio/naming-a-file
for acceptable characters in Win 10 file names - '&' is a reserved 
character.

nvsoar

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Re: [GNC] The Meaning of Split (previously Example of multi-split feature of CSV importer?)

2019-03-24 Thread nvsoar

snip

FWIW - this old owl looks at every GnuCash transaction as having one 
source and one or more sinks; and doesn't give a hoot about splits, 
simple transactions, compound transactions inter alia. Have enjoyed the 
back and forth.


Many thanks to the GnuCash developers, contributors and the members of 
the list.


All the best from the Carson Valley,
nvsoar

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Re: [GNC] Stock Quotes

2019-01-03 Thread nvsoar

On 01/02/19 08:51, Dave Cooper via gnucash-user wrote:

Hi gnucash

I have returned to gnu-cash having not used it for several years so 
please bear with me.
I have reloaded the system and set it up to get some UK stock prices 
(LSE) using Alphavantage
Unfortunately I get poor results - only 25% - 50% prices are returned 
- I assume this is caused by time outs
As a temporary fix I now use yahoo - json  which gets results every 
time so far, but I have to manually adjust these prices because the 
return is in pence not pounds

Is there a parameter or easy way to fix this?

I note that yahoo are having problems due to their historical data for 
UK is in pounds - not that I am going there.


Cheers
Dave
A solution to AlphaVantage limits is in Ameet Sengar's message; 
available here.

https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2018-September/079698.html
It has been my experience that the AlphaVantage.pm file is read only.  
Change file properties to read write to modify;  then back to read 
only.  (Notepad++ worked well for me on a Win10 system.)

nvsoar
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Re: [GNC] *.deb package for GnuCash 3.4 Released

2019-01-03 Thread nvsoar

On 01/03/19 00:09, Colin Law wrote:

On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 at 23:12, nvsoar  wrote:

...
Do you think that 'sudo apt -f install' would work to get the libboost
packages?

No, as Liz said that would only help if the deb said that it needs
those packages, in which case dpkg would have complained that they
were not installed.  They probably cannot be included as "depends" as
the deb is aimed principally at 18.04 and the packages may have
different names there.

Colin

Thank you both, nvsoar
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Re: [GNC] *.deb package for GnuCash 3.4 Released

2019-01-02 Thread nvsoar

On 01/02/19 13:44, Colin Law wrote:

I have installed 3.4 onto another Ubuntu 18.10 and can confirm Tim
Kallmer's findings as to the additional packages that need to be
installed.  I have noticed one other slight complication, that Ubuntu
seems to think that the version from the deb (3.4-0-1) is earlier than
the version from the repo (1:3.3-2), possibly due to the 1: on the
front.  The result is that updating the system wants to update gnucash
back to 3.3.  The solution to that is to mark it as held so that it
won't be upgraded.

So to install on Ubuntu 18.10 from the deb first download it from
Stephen's Drive
https://drive.google.com/open?id=172BMIvLgD7twcGEWkR5GcddoZ_A4QWfY to,
for example Downloads, then run

sudo apt remove gnucash
sudo apt autoremove
sudo dpkg -i Downloads/gnucash_3.4-0-1_amd64.deb
sudo apt install  libboost-filesystem1.65.1  libboost-date-time1.65.1
   libboost-locale1.65.1  libboost-regex1.65.1
sudo apt-mark hold gnucash

and you should be good to go.  Thanks again to Stephen Butler for
providing this.

Colin


Do you think that 'sudo apt -f install' would work to get the libboost 
packages?

nvsoar


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Re: [GNC] Location of GnuCash data files

2018-12-31 Thread nvsoar
FWIW - for Windows systems there is light weight, free, fast file and 
folder locator called 'Everything'; available at void tools.com. (Quite 
impressive with respect to windows search.)

nvsoar

On 12/31/18 13:26, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

That’s an easy go-to method for nearly any application. I teach it to my family 
regularly. It is very useful when they aren’t paying attention to where they 
just saved something moments ago as most apps default to a standard preference 
location (like Downloads or Documents) or the last-used location.

Regards,
Adrien


On Dec 31, 2018, at 2:20 PM, David Carlson  wrote:

The thread GNCupdating advice seems to have answers that could apply to this 
thread.

Adding to both: In the release 2.6.xx family, a simple method to find the last 
used data file is to start the File > Save as process and see where GnuCash 
wants to put the new file.  Then cancel before actually saving.

David C

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 1:42 PM Adrien Monteleone 
 wrote:
It should probably be filed in Bugzilla, but I think it might already be there.

I seem to recall asking this question myself some months ago after a thread 
about user confusion over these files. I unfortunately can’t find the thread 
and don’t remember the exact final point, but I do remember one of the devs 
stated a good reason for why the present situation is what it is, darned if I 
can remember it though. Maybe one of them will chime in.

Regards,
Adrien


On Dec 31, 2018, at 12:09 PM, David T. via gnucash-user 
 wrote:

Been done.
https://gnucash.uservoice.com/forums/101223-feature-request/suggestions/1470507-configuration-option-for-backup-location



  On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 23:18, Stephen M. Butler wrote:   On 
12/31/18 9:29 AM, Stan Brown wrote:

Under "Uddating advice", I believe Finbar Mahon wrote:


On reading it I see that what is missing is how to find where the
gnucash file is saved.  The problem is that where it is was specified
by yourself when you first saved your accounts file.  Just as it is if
you save a word processor document for example, so the wiki assumes
you remember where that is.

True enough, and a couple of people have suggested how to find a file.

But word processors typically DON'T put dozens of log files in the same 
directory or folder as the actual document. Because Gnucash does, when someone 
naively saves a Gnucash data file to her desktop, it's almost immediately 
cluttered with log files. The same was true when I naively saved my first 
GnuCash file to the same folder as my financial spreadsheets -- relatively 
quickly they were buried under a blizzard of log files. (Granted, I'm 
exaggerating a bit, for effect.)

I understand the usefulness of the log files, but why aren't they written to 
the temp folder? Or better yet, why aren't they written to a user-specified 
location, with the temp folder as default?


This sounds like an idea that needs to be filed as an enhancement
request.  I'd suggest an alternative might be to create two sub-folders
in the folder where the data file is stored:

1. ./GnuCash-Backups
2. ./GnuCash-Logs

That would keep them from cluttering up the main folder but be readily
at hand and easily identifiable.  Of course, I've used *Nix style paths
but the idea should port to Windows (I don't know Mac).

--Steve

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Re: [GNC] When will there be a new Finance::Quote version on CPAN?

2018-12-01 Thread nvsoar

On 12/01/18 10:47, Eric Coates wrote:

Hi

I am about to expose my ignorance - sensitive people should look away 
now!


I have found the file referred to (I think); on my Ubuntu system I 
found it at


~/.cpan/build/Finance-Quote-1.47-JrEF3h/lib/Finance/quote

The last few lines of the file are:

  # divide USD quotes by 100 if suffix is '.IL'
    if ( ($suffix eq '.IL') && ($info{$stock,'currency'} 
eq 'USD') ) {
    foreach my $field ( 
$quoter->default_currency_fields ) {

    next unless ( $info{ $stock, $field } );
    $info{ $stock, $field } =
    $quoter->scale_field( $info{ $stock, 
$field },

  0.01 );
    }
    }
    }
    }
    else {
    $info{ $stock, 'currency' } = 'USD';
    }

    $info{ $stock, "currency_set_by_fq" } = 1;

    $quantity--;
    select(undef, undef, undef, .7) if ($quantity); sleep(15);
    }

    return wantarray() ? %info : \%info;
}

Unfortunately I am completely ignorant of Perl (I guess that's what it 
is). Could you please indicate exactly where the 'sleep 15' should be 
entered. And, if it's to be indented, is the indentation done with 
spaces or tabs and is the number of spaces/tabs critical.


Many thanks

Eric

And, because I enjoy coincidences, , best wishes from the Soar Valley 
- the Soar being our local river


snip

Eric,

See the mod I made in your message above at the "select(undef, undef, 
undef, .7) if ($quantity); line".


Attached to this message are: a modified version of AlphaVantage.pm ( a 
text file) for my Win10 system; and an image of Ameet Sengar's message 
of last Sept.  Check and set the properties of AlphaVantage.pm to read 
only if you choose to replace that file as a unit.


Have no idea why Sengar's message wasn't included in the 29Nov note.

Please be aware that while I have an Ubuntu system, I have had no 
experience with Gnucash on that system.


All the best, nvsoar

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#This module is based on the Finance::Quote::yahooJSON module
#
#This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
#it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
#the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
#(at your option) any later version.
#
#This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
#but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
#MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
#GNU General Public License for more details.
#
#You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
#along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
#Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA
#02111-1307, USA

package Finance::Quote::AlphaVantage;

require 5.005;

our $VERSION = '1.47'; # VERSION

use strict;
use JSON qw( decode_json );
use HTTP::Request::Common;

my $ALPHAVANTAGE_URL =

'https://www.alphavantage.co/query?function=TIME_SERIES_DAILY=compact=json';
my $ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY = $ENV{'ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY'};

my %currencies_by_suffix = (

# Country   City/Exchange Name
'.US'  => "USD",# USA   AMEX, Nasdaq, NYSE
'.A'   => "USD",# USA   American Stock Exchange (ASE)
'.B'   => "USD",# USA   Boston Stock Exchange (BOS)
'.N'   => "USD",# USA   Nasdaq Stock Exchange (NAS)
'.O'   => "USD",# USA   NYSE Stock Exchange (NYS)
'.OB'  => "USD",# USA   OTC Bulletin Board
'.PK'  => "USD",# USA   Pink Sheets
'.X'   => "USD",# USA   US Options
'.BA'  => "ARS",# Argentina Buenos Aires
'.VI'  => "EUR",# Austria   Vienna
'.AX'  => "AUD",# Australia
'.SA'  => "BRL",# BrazilSao Paolo
'.BR'  => "EUR",# Belgium   Brussels
'.TO'  => "CAD",# CanadaToronto
'.V'   => "CAD",#   Toronto Venture
'.SN'  => "CLP",# Chile Santiago
'.SS'  => "CNY",# China Shanghai
'.SZ'  => "CNY",#   Shenzhen
'.CO'  => "DKK",# Denmark   Copenhagen
'.PA'  => "EUR",# FranceParis
'.BE'  => "EUR",# Germany   Berlin
'.BM'  => "EUR",#   Bremen
'.D'   => "EUR",#   Dusseldorf
'.F'   => "EUR",#   Fran

Re: [GNC] When will there be a new Finance::Quote version on CPAN?

2018-11-29 Thread nvsoar

On 11/29/18 19:36, Mike Alexander wrote:

On Nov 27, 2018, at 6:26 PM, John Ralls  wrote:

Not here. It’s up to Erik Colson.

Who has been asking for help on the finance-quote list.  If you have Perl 
experience and want to volunteer, that would be helpful.

 Mike


FWIW - I made a similar query last October.  Two suggestions were 
offered; use YahooJson as a quote source; or modify AlphaVantage.pm in 
the FinanceQuote folder; (for Windows - in 
C:\strawberry\perl\site\lib\Finance\Quote\)


Ameet Sengar's modification suggestion is to add 'sleep(15)' as the last 
line of the 'foreach' loop.  The text of his message is below.  If I 
remember correctly, the AlphaVantage.pm file is read only; change that 
attribute before attempting to modify.  Restore the read only attribute 
after modification.


All the best from the Carson Valley,
nvsoar

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Re: [GNC] PriceQuotes and AlphaVantage assistance request

2018-10-05 Thread nvsoar

On 10/05/18 10:20, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote:

Hi Megagrumpy,

Am 05.10.18 um 08:46 schrieb Megagrumpy:

I do not know how to link to a previous message

go to https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/ and select the
month i.e. by thread it should look similar to your inbox.

Finally here is the link:
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2018-September/079698.html



but the workaround posted on
Sep 08 by Ameet Sengar, where he provides instructions to delay the requests
to Alphavantage, works very well and I am now consistently getting 100% of
my 50 plus quotes. Hopefully this link works -

HTH
Frank


Many thanks to those who responded.
Yahoo Json worked very well on GnuCash v3.3; resulted in 'program not 
responding' on v2.6.21.

nvsoar


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[GNC] PriceQuotes and AlphaVantage assistance request

2018-10-04 Thread nvsoar
Win 10, Strawberry 5.28, Cpan 1.47; GnuCash 3.3 and 2.6.21 on separate 
machines.
Please advise what needs to be accomplished so that AlphaVantage can 
return more that 4 out of the 20 quotes requested.


Thank your for your assistance,
nvsoar

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Re: [GNC] Online Price Retrieval Fails

2018-09-15 Thread nvsoar

On 09/06/18 07:12, John Ralls wrote:



On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:49 PM, nvsoar <mailto:nvs...@charter.net>> wrote:


On 09/05/18 17:27, John Ralls wrote:


On Sep 5, 2018, at 12:26 PM, nvsoar <mailto:nvs...@charter.net>> wrote:


Running Win 10 - Install online price retrieval (GnuCash version 
2.6.21) reports DateManip could not be found; reports the following 
at the end.


* Run gnc-fq-helper
Can't locate Date/Manip.pm in @INC (you may need to install the 
Date::Manip module) (@INC contains: C:/strawberry/perl/site/lib 
C:/strawberry/perl/vendor/lib C:/strawberry/perl/lib .) at 
gnc-fq-helper line 29.

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at gnc-fq-helper line 29.
An error occurred, see above.
Press any key to continue . . .

Have know idea for the meaning of @INC, or where to put the 
Date::Manip module.


Same fault for GnuCash version 2.6.17

Run the Online Price Retrieval Setup program. Date::Manip is a 
required perl module.


Regards,
John Ralls



That's what did not work.  Downloaded v2.6.21; went GnuCash menu and 
selected "Install Online Price Retrieval for GnuCash."  This action 
resulted in the message above at the end of the process. Observing 
the process running on the terminal showed a message similar to 
"could not find DateManip" part way through.


I apologize for not being clear in the initial report.


Hmm. Date::Manip is in the CPAN repository, 
https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/S/SB/SBECK/Date-Manip-6.73.tar.gz. 
The URL has changed, though, from cpan.org <http://cpan.org> to 
metacpan.org <http://metacpan.org>. That’s just the last couple of 
months, I think.


Try opening a Strawberry Perl window from the Start menu and run the 
command

  cpan -i Date::Manip

There are likely multiple error messages and having the output in a 
window that doesn’t disappear at the end will help you see them all.


Regards,
John Ralls


For info - Here are the results from the above suggestion -
-
C:\>cd strawberry

C:\strawberry> cpan -i Date::Manip
CPAN: CPAN::SQLite loaded ok (v0.203)
CPAN: LWP::UserAgent loaded ok (v6.05)
CPAN: Time::HiRes loaded ok (v1.9726)
Fetching with LWP:
http://cpan.strawberryperl.com/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz
CPAN: YAML::XS loaded ok (v0.41)
Fetching with LWP:
http://cpan.strawberryperl.com/modules/02packages.details.txt.gz
Fetching with LWP:
http://cpan.strawberryperl.com/modules/03modlist.data.gz
Database was generated on Wed, 05 Sep 2018 03:53:51 GMT

Updating database file ...
Done!
Warning: Cannot install Date::Manip, don't know what it is.
Try the command

    i /Date::Manip/

to find objects with matching identifiers.

C:\strawberry> i /Date::Manip/
'i' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\strawberry>cpan i /Date::Manip/
CPAN: CPAN::SQLite loaded ok (v0.203)
Database was generated on Sat, 15 Sep 2018 22:32:21 GMT

Warning: Cannot install i, don't know what it is.
Try the command

    i /i/

to find objects with matching identifiers.
CPAN: Time::HiRes loaded ok (v1.9726)
Sorry, install with a regular expression is only supported when unambiguous.
Rejecting argument '/Date::Manip/'

C:\strawberry>
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Re: [GNC] Online Price Retrieval Fails

2018-09-05 Thread nvsoar

On 09/05/18 17:27, John Ralls wrote:



On Sep 5, 2018, at 12:26 PM, nvsoar  wrote:

Running Win 10 - Install online price retrieval (GnuCash version 2.6.21) 
reports DateManip could not be found; reports the following at the end.

* Run gnc-fq-helper
Can't locate Date/Manip.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Date::Manip 
module) (@INC contains: C:/strawberry/perl/site/lib 
C:/strawberry/perl/vendor/lib C:/strawberry/perl/lib .) at gnc-fq-helper line 
29.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at gnc-fq-helper line 29.
An error occurred, see above.
Press any key to continue . . .

Have know idea for the meaning of @INC, or where to put the Date::Manip module.

Same fault for GnuCash version 2.6.17


Run the Online Price Retrieval Setup program. Date::Manip is a required perl 
module.

Regards,
John Ralls



That's what did not work.  Downloaded v2.6.21; went GnuCash menu and 
selected "Install Online Price Retrieval for GnuCash."  This action 
resulted in the message above at the end of the process. Observing the 
process running on the terminal showed a message similar to "could not 
find DateManip" part way through.


I apologize for not being clear in the initial report.

All the best,
nvsoar

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[GNC] Online Price Retrieval Fails

2018-09-05 Thread nvsoar
Running Win 10 - Install online price retrieval (GnuCash version 2.6.21) 
reports DateManip could not be found; reports the following at the end.


* Run gnc-fq-helper
Can't locate Date/Manip.pm in @INC (you may need to install the 
Date::Manip module) (@INC contains: C:/strawberry/perl/site/lib 
C:/strawberry/perl/vendor/lib C:/strawberry/perl/lib .) at gnc-fq-helper 
line 29.

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at gnc-fq-helper line 29.
An error occurred, see above.
Press any key to continue . . .

Have know idea for the meaning of @INC, or where to put the Date::Manip 
module.


Same fault for GnuCash version 2.6.17

Please advise.

Thank you for your assistance.
nvsoar

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Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-20 Thread nvsoar
Seems to me that I read recently that gwenhywfar is an AQ Banking 
package.  On the same google page is an entry that it can be downloaded 
from Source Forge.

nvsoar

On 06/20/18 13:17, Stephen M. Butler wrote:

Then I ran into this problem.  Researching.

I don't see 'gwenhywfar' listed on the installation page.  Attempting to
install says package not found.

$ cmake -D CMAKE_INStALL_PREFIX=/usr/local ../gnucash-3.1
-- The C compiler identification is GNU 7.3.0
-- The CXX compiler identification is GNU 7.3.0
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc -- works
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Detecting C compile features
-- Detecting C compile features - done
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ -- works
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
-- Detecting CXX compile features
-- Detecting CXX compile features - done
-- Found PkgConfig: /usr/bin/pkg-config (found version "0.29.1")
-- Checking for module 'glib-2.0>=2.40'
--   Found glib-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'gio-2.0'
--   Found gio-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'gobject-2.0>=2.20'$ cmake -D
CMAKE_INStALL_PREFIX=/usr/local ../gnucash-3.1
-- The C compiler identification is GNU 7.3.0
-- The CXX compiler identification is GNU 7.3.0
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc -- works
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Detecting C compile features
-- Detecting C compile features - done
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ -- works
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
-- Detecting CXX compile features
-- Detecting CXX compile features - done
-- Found PkgConfig: /usr/bin/pkg-config (found version "0.29.1")
-- Checking for module 'glib-2.0>=2.40'
--   Found glib-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'gio-2.0'
--   Found gio-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'gobject-2.0>=2.20'
--   Found gobject-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'gmodule-2.0>=2.20'
--   Found gmodule-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'gthread-2.0>=2.20'
--   Found gthread-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'libxml-2.0>=2.7.0'
--   Found libxml-2.0, version 2.9.4
-- Checking for module 'libxslt'
--   Found libxslt, version 1.1.29
-- Checking for module 'webkit2gtk-4.0'
--   Found webkit2gtk-4.0, version 2.20.3
-- Checking for module 'gtk+-3.0>=3.10.0'
--   Found gtk+-3.0, version 3.22.30
-- Checking for module 'zlib'
--   Found zlib, version 1.2.11
-- Found Gettext: /usr/bin/msgmerge (found suitable version "0.19.8.1",
minimum required is "0.19.6")
-- Using guile-2.0.x
-- Using guile SRFI-64
-- Checking for module 'gwenhywfar'
--   No package 'gwenhywfar' found
CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:415
(message):
   A required package was not found
Call Stack (most recent call first):
   /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:593
(_pkg_check_modules_internal)
   common/cmake_modules/GncFindPkgConfig.cmake:253 (PKG_CHECK_MODULES)
   CMakeLists.txt:347 (GNC_PKG_CHECK_MODULES)


-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
See also "/home/steve/Projects/GnuCash/mybuild/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".

--   Found gobject-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'gmodule-2.0>=2.20'
--   Found gmodule-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'gthread-2.0>=2.20'
--   Found gthread-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'libxml-2.0>=2.7.0'
--   Found libxml-2.0, version 2.9.4
-- Checking for module 'libxslt'
--   Found libxslt, version 1.1.29
-- Checking for module 'webkit2gtk-4.0'
--   Found webkit2gtk-4.0, version 2.20.3
-- Checking for module 'gtk+-3.0>=3.10.0'
--   Found gtk+-3.0, version 3.22.30
-- Checking for module 'zlib'
--   Found zlib, version 1.2.11
-- Found Gettext: /usr/bin/msgmerge (found suitable version "0.19.8.1",
minimum required is "0.19.6")
-- Using guile-2.0.x
-- Using guile SRFI-64
-- Checking for module 'gwenhywfar'
--   No package 'gwenhywfar' found
CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:415
(message):
   A required package was not found
Call Stack (most recent call first):
   /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:593
(_pkg_check_modules_internal)
   common/cmake_modules/GncFindPkgConfig.cmake:253 (PKG_CHECK_MODULES)
   CMakeLists.txt:347 (GNC_PKG_CHECK_MODULES)


-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
See also "/home/steve/Projects/GnuCash/mybuild/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".

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Re: [GNC] Help - GnuCash will not open, crashes

2018-04-24 Thread nvsoar

On 04/24/18 13:26, Mike Johnson wrote:

Good day.
I have been running GnuCash for 3 ½ years successfully. Great application!

I upgraded to a new PC, saved the entire gnucash library, and copied to the new 
PC after installing GnuCash fresh, on Windows 10. The first time I started 
GnuCash (and every time since), I get

"GnuCash could not obtain the lock for file: (gives the name of my accounting 
file)"
It gives me the options:  Open Read-Only Create New File
   Open Anyway  Quit

I don't want to create a new file, and I want to continue editing the file! So 
I use Open Anyway.

The application either then hangs, or receives a Windows Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime 
error. "The application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual 
way".

I am unable to continue using the app until this is resolved. Help!


Mike
There have been some issues with the deployment of GnuCash, particularly 
with Win10.  The advice from many on this condition is to revert to at 
least version 2.6.21, and try the version 3 series again with the 
release of version 3.1.
Another choice is to download the latest maintenance version of v3 and 
see if that works for you.

nvsoar
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Re: Unrealized loss

2018-04-04 Thread nvsoar
Hm.  Seems to me that a price is added to the system any time a 
stock is purchased or sold, or when a dividend is reinvested.

nvsoar

On 04/04/18 09:32, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

The value will usually change based on that setting. Sometimes ‘latest’ and 
’nearest in time’ will be the same, but that depends on running the report ON 
an actual day (not FOR an actual day) that is on or after a price update and 
before the next price update.

First, you say you deleted all rates updated automatically by GC without you 
noticing. (does not happen, you have to open the price editor and tell it to 
‘get quotes’) This leaves the presumption that there are other prices in the db 
that you either entered manually or intentionally updated with the ‘get quotes’ 
button.

Then you say there are NO rates in the system.

Which is it?

If you open the Price Database is there anything at all listed in the window? 
(this includes a Currencies tree)

Do you have ANY transactions where you purchased or entered an opening balance 
for a commodity or any currency other than the default book currency? (EUR)

If you go to File > Properties, is ‘Use Trading Accounts’ checked?

Regards,
Adrien


On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:10 AM, cag...@free.fr wrote:

I suspect there is a bug that should be reported:

As I do NOT manage currencies other than EUR and no traders accounts taking 
into account share values, I have deleted all exchanges rates that had been 
updated automatically by GC without my noticing.
BUT my Unrealized loss on a given day varies according to my setting the calculation mode to 
"average" or "nearest in time" for instance. It doesn's seem to make sense 
since there are NO exchange rates in my system.

Ideas?
TIA
Alain




De: "sunfish62" <sunfis...@yahoo.com>
À: cag...@free.fr, "John Ralls" <jra...@ceridwen.us>
Cc: "gnucash-user" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Envoyé: Lundi 2 Avril 2018 14:52:46
Objet: Re: Unrealized loss

Alain,

Your new transaction is balanced, and won't affect the imbalance in another 
transaction.

I personally find the unrealized gains issue to be exceedingly difficult to 
understand. Since you say you don't care about this, just ignore it.

David T




On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 17:02, cag...@free.fr
<cag...@free.fr> wrote:



De: [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ]
À: "John Ralls" < [ mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us | jra...@ceridwen.us ] >
Cc: "gnucash-user" < [ mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org | gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
] >
Envoyé: Lundi 2 Avril 2018 13:51:03
Objet: Re: Unrealized loss




De: "John Ralls" < [ mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us | jra...@ceridwen.us ] >
À: [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ]
Cc: "gnucash-user" < [ mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org | gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
] >
Envoyé: Dimanche 1 Avril 2018 15:34:43
Objet: Re: Unrealized loss






On Apr 1, 2018, at 5:13 AM, [ mailto: [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr 
] | [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ] ] wrote:


Hello.

I have have had an "unrealized loss" showing on my balance sheet for years. I 
haven't bothered too much as the amount is extremely small. (€7.70).

I had kind advice on this forum as to identify the date on which the loss 
showed up and the procedure to cancel it. I did find the date but stangely not 
the transaction. So I'm not going to keep trying to cancel the loss any longer.

I read that, without actually "cancelling" the loss, it is possible to prevent 
it from showing. I know that this is not legal for a company, but my book keeping is 
fully personal so I'd like to know the procedure.




“Cancelling” isn’t really the right term. You need to record the loss as either 
expense or negative income depending on how you handle capital gains. There’s 
an explanation of how to do this in [ [ 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html | 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html  ] | [ 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html | 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html  ] ] .

Regards,
John Ralls



I have identified the day on which the unrealized lossed first appeared. I have 
drawn a transaction report for that day (and the day before). There is no 
transaction that can remotely explain the loss.
I do not handle foreign currencies. Regarding shares I do not use trader 
accounts or split transactions including profits or losses. I do not enter 
share values into GC until the day I sell them. There is no way in the meantime 
GC can take into account a difference in value.

Something might help identify where the problem comes from: I had another 
instance with an unrealized loss as big as my total yearly income. It went away 
a few weeks (or months I'm not sure) after it showed up. There is no way a 
single transaction (or ev

Re: Stock Spin-Out

2018-02-21 Thread nvsoar

On 02/21/18 10:41, Les wrote:

Thanks Tommy for your input.

There was not any information on either the spun-out company or the 
company that did the spin-out. (both companies are Canadian stocks.)


I have sent email to both companies to determine my basis.


On 02/21/2018 11:59 AM, Tommy Trussell wrote:

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:02 PM, nvsoar <nvs...@charter.net> wrote:

Comment:  It seems to me that a zero cost for the spun off shares is
incorrect if a non-zero basis exists for the pre-spin off shares.  A 
zero
cost for the new shares will result in a higher than necessary 
capital gain
when those shares are sold.  The easiest way to determine the new 
basis for
each of the remaining entities that I have found is to use the cost 
basis

calculator at the link previously provided.
nvsoar



Usually here in the US, when a company announces a stock spin-off, the
existing shareholders are provided a passel of materials, some of which
include a determination by a tax attorney or the IRS describing how to
calculate the basis of the spun-off shares. You can usually find the
information at the spun-off company's web site (look for a link for
"investor information") or as a document available from the company's 
stock

transfer agent.

I can imagine that sometimes such information may not be finalized at 
the
time of spin-off, especially if the IRS objects to some part of it, 
but my

impression is that these things are almost always pretty much settled
before the time they occur because there's lots of money involved. And
nobody wants any uncertainty when there's lots of money involved...
For info - Here is an article that may be useful in understanding the 
rationale of determining the post spin off basis for both remaining 
entities.  The basic idea is that the sum of the post-spinoff market 
value of both entities is the same as the pre-spinoff market value; and 
thus the pre-spin off basis is divided according to the post spin off 
market values.

http://www.spinoffprofiles.com/spinoff-tax-basis-and-tax-treatment

FWIW - I agree with Mr Trussel that in many cases the firm that 
initiates the spin off typically provides the percentages to determine 
the new basis for each of the spun off entities.  When this is not the 
case then the cost basis.com tool or a manual calculation is called 
for.  As far as I know, the IRS has not specified which of the stock 
price figures (open, close, high, low, average for the day) to be used 
for determining market value.

http://www.spinoffprofiles.com/spinoff-tax-basis-and-tax-treatment
nvsoar

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Re: Stock Spin-Out

2018-02-20 Thread nvsoar

On 02/20/18 11:35, Les wrote:
There is a stock-split function in GC.  However it doesn't appear to 
do spin-outs.  In my case, the company doing the spin-out is doing a 5 
to 1 and there are no fractional shares. I just assigned the cost at 
0.00 per share.


Les


On 02/20/2018 01:27 PM, David Carlson wrote:

Les,

Usually a stock spin-off splits the before spin-off cost basis 
between the after spin-off stocks according to documents provided by 
the parent corporation to the SEC and shareholders which also explain 
how details such as fractional shares and various expenses are to be 
treated.


The worksheet that nvsoar provided the link to helps with calculating 
details.


I thought that there was also a stock split assistant built into 
GnuCash to construct the transactions. Check the help or tutorial 
manual s for that.


David C




On Feb 20, 2018 9:57 AM, "Les" <lellio...@gmail.com 
<mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:


    Thanks for both replies.  I used a zero price and the number of
    shares with a description.  (John's procedure)  But I was not sure
    if the procedure I used was correct (best).

    Regards,

    Les
Comment:  It seems to me that a zero cost for the spun off shares is 
incorrect if a non-zero basis exists for the pre-spin off shares.  A 
zero cost for the new shares will result in a higher than necessary 
capital gain when those shares are sold.  The easiest way to determine 
the new basis for each of the remaining entities that I have found is to 
use the cost basis calculator at the link previously provided.

nvsoar
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Re: Stock Spin-Out

2018-02-19 Thread nvsoar

On 02/19/18 15:25, John Coppock wrote:

This is what I have been doing.  I am new to Gnu Cash.

I'm using Gnu Cash v.2.6.17 on Windows 10 in US dollars.

In 'Tools/Security Editor', create the new spin-off security.

In your brokerage account, create a new sub-account for the new 
spin-off security. Its Account Type will be stock (do this first), 
currency will be shares of the security you just created. If you don't 
see it show up after you created it, go to 'View/Filter by/Other' to 
show accounts with zero totals,


In the new sub-account (tab between fields), enter the date of the 
spin-off, a description, on the next line choose 'Buy' for 'Action', 
enter the shares received in 'Shares', delete the value in 'Price', 
enter the basis of the shares received in 'Buy', on the next line 
enter the name of the parent Stock account, enter 0 for 'Shares', 
delete the value in 'Price', verify the value in 'Buy' is the same as 
the basis entered before, hit enter and you're done.


I've found this seems to handle the basis change for both stocks.



On 2/19/2018 1:37 PM, Les wrote:
I recently had a stock that owned a significant part of a rather new 
company and decided to spin it out at a 5 to 1 rate.  Can someone 
please explain how to do this in GC?


Thanks,


Les
FWIW - Here is a resource for dealing with spin-off basis transactions - 
http://www.costbasistools.com/spinoff/calculator.php

nvsoar
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Re: How to create an asset with a reduced value compared to my regular currency (dollars)

2017-12-07 Thread nvsoar

On 12/06/17 12:44, adrian wrote:

Tommy Trussell wrote

Adrian:
In the case at hand I spent $430 on the gift card and when I buy
something
that costs $100, I'm really only spending $86.  That's what makes sense
to
me for how this ought to be counted.   Since I don't know the category of
the expense in advance, I can't just put in a $70 offset unless I put it
as
"misc", in which case I lose track of some information about how I
allocated
my money.


I went back to your original question (remember that this is NOT a forum
--
it's an email list that you're viewing through Nabble)

Yeah, despite that I have been unable to actually subscribe to the list.
But your point was you wanted more context, I suppose.



I bought a $500 gift card for $430 this week.  I would like to add this to
gnucash as some kind of asset so that as I spend it, the correctly scaled
amount gets transferred to the expense account I use.  In other words, if
I
spend $100 from this account it's really only $86.

I tried to do this by creating a security fund and then using the price
editor to set the price to 0.86.  But when I insert a transaction from
the
new account to an expense account, it doesn't apply the 0.86 factor.
What
is the right way to do what I want to do?


I think you have demonstrated the difficulty with what you're trying to
do-- you're trying to make a rebate card a different KIND of currency,
which in one sense, it is. HOWEVER every time you make a purchase from
that
card it will require a currency exchange, which adds a level of complexity
and may not produce the result you want.

I'm sure you could make it work, but in the end, it's a lot easier to just
offset the $70 against the expenses. TECHNICALLY you don't get benefit of
the full amount you spent on the card until you have completely depleted
the value of the card, but that would be a PITA (sorry for the acronym --
I
mean "difficult").

I think the real answer is to go back and think about what it is you want
to achieve.

I'm not sure what exactly is unclear.  I am thinking of the acquisition of
this card not as a purchase, but as a shift of assets from one form to
another.  So instead of $430 in the bank I now have a different asset,
namely $500 on the card.   Yes, it's true, I don't benefit until I spend the
money.  But the same is true of money in the bank.

But it's not really $500 on the card because I only spent $430 on it.  It is
exactly like a currency exchange, though it's not obvious to me why this
means my goal is a very complex one.   It seems pretty simple to have an
exchange rate and have the card denominated in some currency, say the Gifta,
that is equal to .86 dollars.  When I buy something using the card I can go
to the card's account and list the expenses in Giftas and they will be
automatically translated by the 0.86 factor.   (I assume that if I made an
account denominated in, say GBP, that I would be able to get that to
translate to the USD that I use for my regular accounts; after all, this is
something that is important to many people.)

Now actually I realized that the solution I was fiddling with can be made to
work. As I mentioned before, I made an account and created a security and
tried to set its price using the price editor.  For some reason the Price
Editor doesn't seem to do anything, but there is a column labeled "Price" in
the account I made, and if I set this to 0.86 (which I have to do manually
for every transaction, it seems) then things work as I was hoping.  (And I
notice that prices I enter in the ledger appear in the price editor even
though the reverse doesn't seem to be the case.)   It would be even nicer if
I could set the price once and have that same price stay in effect until I
change it, rather than having to enter it again for each transaction with
the default price being "1".

Why do I care?  It's just so that my accounting correctly tracks my
expenditures in different categories.   I don't need to use accounting
software to do price comparisons, but if I want to know how much I spent on
Widgets this year---and I buy some using the card---the number will be
inflated if I don't account for the discount.





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H.  Seems to me that you received a $70.00 gift along with the card.
nvsoar
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Re: F::Q changes

2017-11-12 Thread nvsoar

On 11/12/17 18:02, David Carlson wrote:

I cannot find Finance::Quote on my Ubuntu 16.04 computer that has GnuCash
6.12 installed.  How can I update it?  I have tried using Synaptic and even
searching with files.

David C

snip
Try GetDeb to update - http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/16.04/?q=gnucash
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Re: Finance-Quote 1.42 released!

2017-11-06 Thread nvsoar

On 11/06/17 12:04, Fross, Michael wrote:

Thank you so much Erik.  I had a lot of trouble getting 1.40 and 1.41
working on windows, but 1.42 worked without issue using Alphavantage.

I appreciate you taking the time to help us (all all of the other users of
F:Q) out.

If anyone is having issues getting it working on Windows with Activatestate
Perl, I'd be happy to post about it, but it was really just installing F:Q
1.42 and then  changing all of my securities to update via Alphavantage.  I
also had to add the API key to an environment variable.

Regards,

Michael

snip

Good news.  Please advise the method to get and set up the API key for 
someone who has never heard of an API key.

Thank you for your assistance to all involved.
nvsoar
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Correct entries for fractional sale of a spun off stock

2017-10-05 Thread nvsoar
In reviewing the guide I have so far been unsuccessful in getting an 
appropriate double entry outcome.


The situation - Aligent was spun off from Hewlett Packard with 305.12 
shares with a basis of $1490.54.  O.12 shares with a basis of $0.59 were 
sold for $9.24 which was transferred to the broker cash account, 
resulting in a capital gain of $8.65.  The basis for the 305 remaining 
Agilent shares is therefore reduced by $0.59 to $1489.96.


It is my understanding that I need to credit Income:CapitalGain by 
$8.65; for the Brkr:Agilent account - decrease the shares by 0.12 and 
credit an amount of $0.59.  The other two entries need for double entry 
balance have eluded me.


Thank you for your assistance,
nvsoar


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