Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone
That “Drag to Applications” thingy you see on some apps is a sort of visual 
’trick’ - nothing fancy.

You can set a background to any finder window.

You can have a link to a location (shortcut).

If you drag an item onto a link, Finder will copy the item to the link’s 
ultimate real location.

What you are seeing when you open such a dmg is the window is sized ‘just so’ 
with a background image containing the text instructions “Drag to Applications” 
or sometimes, just a fancy arrow. The .app file and the applications link are 
then placed strategically to fit around the text or arrows appropriately. If 
the user follows the instructions, the ‘magic’ installation happens. Try 
enlarging the next dmg you see like this and choose to re-arrange the icons and 
you’ll see what I mean.

You could just as well open another finder tab or window with /Applications as 
a target (or any other folder, really) and copy your .app there. The effect 
will be the same. (copying to a folder other than /Applications will probably 
mean it won’t be visible from LaunchPad however)

I suppose whomever packages GnuCash for Mac could go through this trouble, but 
I think they made a fair bet that anyone installing GnuCash will have installed 
other Mac apps already and thus can figure it out. Just for completeness, 
instructions are in the README.

There are some other apps which use a different procedure. (more common pre-OS 
X) Those apps (Virtualbox being one particular case) need more than just to 
exist in the /Applications folder as they have to make changes or install files 
in protected system locations. (which need admin rights)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 2, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Gerry Starnes  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Actually I’m a MacHead. =)The GnuCash installation is not clear and 
> different programs install differently. It doesn’t do the usual “Drag this to 
> Applications” kind of instruction. Some open source programs use a variety of 
> installation procedures.   Just glad I figured it out.   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gerry S   
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Dec 2, 2018 at 8:32 PM,  mailto:sunfis...@yahoo.com)>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Dave,  
>> 
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure Gerry was not talking about configuration files. His 
>> references to folders in Applications suggests that. The terminology he uses 
>> suggests he is more familiar with Windows or Linux than the Mac, since (as 
>> John notes elsewhere) the only installation one needs to do for Gnucash on 
>> the Mac is drag the executable into Applications.   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> FWIW, Gerry, you can install different versions of gnucash on a mac simply 
>> by changing the name of the app in the Applications folder. I have 2.6.21 
>> and 3.3 side by side on my machine. Increasingly, I open 3.3, but I keep 
>> 2.6.21 because the look is more to my taste.   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:58, David Reiser via gnucash-user
>>> 
>>>   wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On a Mac, the Gnucash support files are either in the app bundle itself, or 
>>> in ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash, so it takes a little work to move 
>>> them from Windows/Linux to a Mac.
>>> --
>>> Dave Reiser
>>>  dbrei...@icloud.com (mailto:dbrei...@icloud.com)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 2, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Gerry Starnes  
 mailto:gerrystar...@gmail.com)>  wrote:
 
 I had the same problem with 3.3. I had to add a couple of steps though.
 
 1) renamed the old folder in Applications to GnuCash 2.2
 2) created a new folder for GnuCash 3.3 in the Applications folder.
 3) copied all of the files in the window that opened when I double clicked 
 the installer volume to the new GnuCash 3.3 folder
 4) clicked on GnuCash in the new folder
 
 This opened GnuCash correctly and it also found my previous data files. 
 Seems to me that something about the installation does not actually put 
 the executable and support files in the Applications folder.
 
 Gerry S
 
 On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:21 PM David Reiser via gnucash-user  
 mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org)   
 >  wrote:
 On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Jules Levinson  
 mailto:juleslevin...@comcast.net)   
 >  wrote:
> 
> I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> 
> She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times. Many
> times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with, at
> best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar with
> the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be able
> to assist me to assist her.
> 
> In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries. One

Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-03 Thread D via gnucash-user
The installation for Gnucash is like many other Mac apps that I've loaded that 
had a dmg file that opened up, and the user was expected to drag the app into 
the Applications folder. Someone must have felt this was a common enough 
practice to obviate the need for explanation.

Unfortunately, additional details about this process were omitted from the 
Installation page on the wiki, to which the user is directed from the main 
website. I have added these instructions to the page for future users.I

David

On December 3, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Gerry Starnes  wrote:

Actually, it was the lack of instruction that was confusing. When I 
double-clicked on the Volume, it opened a window with the program and other 
support files. And that was it. Most usually, there is either an instruction to 
drag the file into the Applications folder or an installer runs. Since neither 
happened, I wasn't sure if something went wrong, and unsure of what to do with 
the support documents. Then, when I clicked on the program in that window, it 
appeared to start to run but stopped. I did that several times with the same 
result. So, I was confused.


Someone in this thread gave me the clue to drag the program into the 
Applications folder (but still what about the support docs?). Instead, I 
created a separate folder in the Applications folder for the new files, renamed 
the old file and ran it from there. I'm always wary about losing something, so 
unless the program updates internally, I'm always cautious. Maybe overly so, 
but this data is too important to lose.


Gerry S


On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 5:46 AM David T.  wrote:

Gerry,


I'm curious what installation instructions were confusing?


David T


On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:12, Gerry Starnes

 wrote:

Actually I’m a MacHead. =)  The GnuCash installation is not clear and different 
programs install differently. It doesn’t do the usual “Drag this to 
Applications” kind of instruction. Some open source programs use a variety of 
installation procedures. Just glad I figured it out. 


Gerry S


On Dec 2, 2018 at 8:32 PM,  wrote:

Dave,


I'm pretty sure Gerry was not talking about configuration files. His references 
to folders in Applications suggests that. The terminology he uses suggests he 
is more familiar with Windows or Linux than the Mac, since (as John notes 
elsewhere) the only installation one needs to do for Gnucash on the Mac is drag 
the executable into Applications. 


FWIW, Gerry, you can install different versions of gnucash on a mac simply by 
changing the name of the app in the Applications folder. I have 2.6.21 and 3.3 
side by side on my machine. Increasingly, I open 3.3, but I keep 2.6.21 because 
the look is more to my taste. 


David


On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:58, David Reiser via gnucash-user

 wrote:

On a Mac, the Gnucash support files are either in the app bundle itself, or in 
~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash, so it takes a little work to move them 
from Windows/Linux to a Mac.
--
Dave Reiser
dbrei...@icloud.com





> On Dec 2, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Gerry Starnes  wrote:
> 
> I had the same problem with 3.3. I had to add a couple of steps though. 
> 
> 1) renamed the old folder in Applications to GnuCash 2.2
> 2) created a new folder for GnuCash 3.3 in the Applications folder.
> 3) copied all of the files in the window that opened when I double clicked 
> the installer volume to the new GnuCash 3.3 folder
> 4) clicked on GnuCash in the new folder
> 
> This opened GnuCash correctly and it also found my previous data files. Seems 
> to me that something about the installation does not actually put the 
> executable and support files in the Applications folder.
> 
> Gerry S
> 
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:21 PM David Reiser via gnucash-user 
> mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Jules Levinson  > wrote:
> > 
> > I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> > decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> > 
> > She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> > whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times. Many
> > times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with, at
> > best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar with
> > the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be able
> > to assist me to assist her.
> > 
> > In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries. One
> > resembled her experience closely:
> > 
> > "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual warning
> > about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash icon is
> > seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you 'click'
> > Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
> > nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated the
> > same installatio

Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-03 Thread Gerry Starnes
Actually, it was the lack of instruction that was confusing. When I
double-clicked on the Volume, it opened a window with the program and other
support files. And that was it. Most usually, there is either an
instruction to drag the file into the Applications folder or an installer
runs. Since neither happened, I wasn't sure if something went wrong, and
unsure of what to do with the support documents. Then, when I clicked on
the program in that window, it appeared to start to run but stopped. I did
that several times with the same result. So, I was confused.

Someone in this thread gave me the clue to drag the program into the
Applications folder (but still what about the support docs?). Instead, I
created a separate folder in the Applications folder for the new files,
renamed the old file and ran it from there. I'm always wary about losing
something, so unless the program updates internally, I'm always cautious.
Maybe overly so, but this data is too important to lose.

Gerry S

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 5:46 AM David T.  wrote:

> Gerry,
>
> I'm curious what installation instructions were confusing?
>
> David T
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:12, Gerry Starnes
>  wrote:
> Actually I’m a MacHead. =)  The GnuCash installation is not clear and
> different programs install differently. It doesn’t do the usual “Drag this
> to Applications” kind of instruction. Some open source programs use a
> variety of installation procedures. Just glad I figured it out.
>
> Gerry S
>
> On Dec 2, 2018 at 8:32 PM, > wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> I'm pretty sure Gerry was not talking about configuration files. His
> references to folders in Applications suggests that. The terminology he
> uses suggests he is more familiar with Windows or Linux than the Mac, since
> (as John notes elsewhere) the only installation one needs to do for Gnucash
> on the Mac is drag the executable into Applications.
>
> FWIW, Gerry, you can install different versions of gnucash on a mac simply
> by changing the name of the app in the Applications folder. I have 2.6.21
> and 3.3 side by side on my machine. Increasingly, I open 3.3, but I keep
> 2.6.21 because the look is more to my taste.
>
> David
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:58, David Reiser via gnucash-user
>  wrote:
> On a Mac, the Gnucash support files are either in the app bundle itself,
> or in ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash, so it takes a little work to
> move them from Windows/Linux to a Mac.
> --
> Dave Reiser
> dbrei...@icloud.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 2, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Gerry Starnes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I had the same problem with 3.3. I had to add a couple of steps though.
> >
> > 1) renamed the old folder in Applications to GnuCash 2.2
> > 2) created a new folder for GnuCash 3.3 in the Applications folder.
> > 3) copied all of the files in the window that opened when I double
> clicked the installer volume to the new GnuCash 3.3 folder
> > 4) clicked on GnuCash in the new folder
> >
> > This opened GnuCash correctly and it also found my previous data files.
> Seems to me that something about the installation does not actually put the
> executable and support files in the Applications folder.
> >
> > Gerry S
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:21 PM David Reiser via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > wrote:
> > On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Jules Levinson  > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> > > decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> > >
> > > She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> > > whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times.
> Many
> > > times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with,
> at
> > > best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar
> with
> > > the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be
> able
> > > to assist me to assist her.
> > >
> > > In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries.
> One
> > > resembled her experience closely:
> > >
> > > "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual
> warning
> > > about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash
> icon is
> > > seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you
> 'click'
> > > Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
> > > nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated
> the
> > > same installation process without success."
> > >
> > > I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my
> computer."
> > >
> > > Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.
> > >
> > > Jules B. Levinson
> > > ___
> >
> >
> > If the gnucash is in the Applications folder (usual place to install
> apps on a mac), and that is where it gets launched the first time when the
> system as

Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-03 Thread Jules Levinson
Friends,

I am pleased to report that, acting upon the suggestions, instructions, and
advice that many of you offered in response to the note I sent to the list
yesterday (Sunday, 2 December 2018), my wife has successfully installed
GnuCash on her Mac. To her it seemed that she had done all of these things
previously, to no avail, but the encouragement and experience of others led
her to stop regarding her own problems as an anomaly, and she mentioned
something about having had to drag & drop the *.dmg file from a folder
other than the one to which it downloaded by default to some other folder
from which she then dropped it into the folder for applications (do I have
that right? I know Windows and Linux reasonably well, but I am utterly
unfamiliar with the MacOS). I don't know the particulars, and neither of us
understand why this proved true, but in the end she was able to install the
program. As many of you have reported, once installed, the first attempt to
start the program went nowhere, and then with the second attempt the
program fired up happily. That's where things stand on Monday morning.
Pretty good. Many thanks to all who helped us get to this point.

Best wishes,

Jules

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 12:07 AM John Ralls 
wrote:

> Please remember to copy the list on all replies.
>
> Perhaps it would be simpler if your wife joined the list?
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
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Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-03 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Gerry,
I'm curious what installation instructions were confusing?
David T

 
 
  On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:12, Gerry Starnes wrote:   
Actually I’m a MacHead. =)  The GnuCash installation is not clear and different 
programs install differently. It doesn’t do the usual “Drag this to 
Applications” kind of instruction. Some open source programs use a variety of 
installation procedures. Just glad I figured it out. 
Gerry S

On Dec 2, 2018 at 8:32 PM,  wrote:

Dave,
I'm pretty sure Gerry was not talking about configuration files. His references 
to folders in Applications suggests that. The terminology he uses suggests he 
is more familiar with Windows or Linux than the Mac, since (as John notes 
elsewhere) the only installation one needs to do for Gnucash on the Mac is drag 
the executable into Applications. 
FWIW, Gerry, you can install different versions of gnucash on a mac simply by 
changing the name of the app in the Applications folder. I have 2.6.21 and 3.3 
side by side on my machine. Increasingly, I open 3.3, but I keep 2.6.21 because 
the look is more to my taste. 
David

 
 
  On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:58, David Reiser via 
gnucash-user wrote:   On a Mac, the Gnucash support 
files are either in the app bundle itself, or in ~/Library/Application 
Support/Gnucash, so it takes a little work to move them from Windows/Linux to a 
Mac.
--
Dave Reiser
dbrei...@icloud.com





> On Dec 2, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Gerry Starnes  wrote:
> 
> I had the same problem with 3.3. I had to add a couple of steps though. 
> 
> 1) renamed the old folder in Applications to GnuCash 2.2
> 2) created a new folder for GnuCash 3.3 in the Applications folder.
> 3) copied all of the files in the window that opened when I double clicked 
> the installer volume to the new GnuCash 3.3 folder
> 4) clicked on GnuCash in the new folder
> 
> This opened GnuCash correctly and it also found my previous data files. Seems 
> to me that something about the installation does not actually put the 
> executable and support files in the Applications folder.
> 
> Gerry S
> 
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:21 PM David Reiser via gnucash-user 
> mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Jules Levinson  > wrote:
> > 
> > I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> > decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> > 
> > She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> > whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times. Many
> > times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with, at
> > best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar with
> > the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be able
> > to assist me to assist her.
> > 
> > In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries. One
> > resembled her experience closely:
> > 
> > "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual warning
> > about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash icon is
> > seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you 'click'
> > Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
> > nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated the
> > same installation process without success."
> > 
> > I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my computer."
> > 
> > Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.
> > 
> > Jules B. Levinson
> > ___
> 
> 
> If the gnucash is in the Applications folder (usual place to install apps on 
> a mac), and that is where it gets launched the first time when the system 
> asks you if you want to run an app downloaded from the internet, when you say 
> “Yes, run it”, the Mac fails to open the app. If you go back to the 
> Applications folder and double click Gnucash again, it will open Gnucash as 
> expected (without asking again if you’re sure). That’s what has been 
> happening for me for many version releases, maybe even before the 3.x 
> versions. After that first aborted launch for a new download, I have not had 
> any launch failures. 
> 
> So, plan to have to open Gnucash twice on a Mac the first time you try 
> running a newly downloaded copy. 
> 
> Keep in mind, though, that double clicking on any gnucash data file on a mac 
> usually results in gnucash opening with the last data file it used, even if 
> that wasn’t the file you double-clicked in Finder. Use File>Open from within 
> Gnucash. Just launch Gnucash directly if you want to use the last file it had 
> open.
> --
> Dave Reiser
> dbrei...@icloud.com 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread Jules Levinson
Will do. Yes, that would be simpler, but the sun is more likely to rise in
the western sky tomorrow morning. I will have to represent her here in the
hope of finding a solution and installing GnuCash successfully on her Mac.

Thanks, Jules

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 12:07 AM John Ralls 
wrote:

> Please remember to copy the list on all replies.
>
> Perhaps it would be simpler if your wife joined the list?
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Jules Levinson 
> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> I will relay this information to my wife. I don't know what version of the
> MacOS is running on her computer. I'll ask.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jules
>
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 5:10 PM John Ralls 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 3, 2018, at 2:17 AM, Jules Levinson 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
>> > decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
>> >
>> > She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
>> > whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times.
>> Many
>> > times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with, at
>> > best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar
>> with
>> > the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be
>> able
>> > to assist me to assist her.
>> >
>> > In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries.
>> One
>> > resembled her experience closely:
>> >
>> > "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual
>> warning
>> > about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash
>> icon is
>> > seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you
>> 'click'
>> > Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
>> > nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated the
>> > same installation process without success."
>> >
>> > I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my
>> computer."
>> >
>> > Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.
>>
>> There’s no “installation process” beyond dragging GnuCash from the dmg to
>> somewhere on disk. The first time you launch a program, MacOS runs some
>> checks on it before starting it. Several users have reported that that
>> process fails to start GnuCash after completing its checks and that if one
>> simply double-clicks the GnuCash icon again it starts normally.
>>
>> However, there are also a couple of Gtk bugs affecting GnuCash-3.3. What
>> version of MacOS is she running, and if it’s 10.14 “Mojave” is she using
>> Dark Mode?
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>
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Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread John Ralls
Please remember to copy the list on all replies.

Perhaps it would be simpler if your wife joined the list?

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Dec 3, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Jules Levinson  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> I will relay this information to my wife. I don't know what version of the 
> MacOS is running on her computer. I'll ask.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Jules
> 
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 5:10 PM John Ralls  > wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Dec 3, 2018, at 2:17 AM, Jules Levinson  > > wrote:
> > 
> > I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> > decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> > 
> > She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> > whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times. Many
> > times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with, at
> > best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar with
> > the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be able
> > to assist me to assist her.
> > 
> > In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries. One
> > resembled her experience closely:
> > 
> > "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual warning
> > about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash icon is
> > seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you 'click'
> > Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
> > nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated the
> > same installation process without success."
> > 
> > I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my computer."
> > 
> > Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.
> 
> There’s no “installation process” beyond dragging GnuCash from the dmg to 
> somewhere on disk. The first time you launch a program, MacOS runs some 
> checks on it before starting it. Several users have reported that that 
> process fails to start GnuCash after completing its checks and that if one 
> simply double-clicks the GnuCash icon again it starts normally.
> 
> However, there are also a couple of Gtk bugs affecting GnuCash-3.3. What 
> version of MacOS is she running, and if it’s 10.14 “Mojave” is she using Dark 
> Mode?
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 

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Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread Gerry Starnes
  
  

 Actually I’m a MacHead. =)The GnuCash installation is not clear and 
different programs install differently. It doesn’t do the usual “Drag this to 
Applications” kind of instruction. Some open source programs use a variety of 
installation procedures.   Just glad I figured it out.   
  

  
  

 Gerry S   

  
>   
> On Dec 2, 2018 at 8:32 PM,  mailto:sunfis...@yahoo.com)>  wrote:
>   
>   
> Dave,  
>
>   
> I'm pretty sure Gerry was not talking about configuration files. His 
> references to folders in Applications suggests that. The terminology he uses 
> suggests he is more familiar with Windows or Linux than the Mac, since (as 
> John notes elsewhere) the only installation one needs to do for Gnucash on 
> the Mac is drag the executable into Applications.   
>   
>
>   
> FWIW, Gerry, you can install different versions of gnucash on a mac simply by 
> changing the name of the app in the Applications folder. I have 2.6.21 and 
> 3.3 side by side on my machine. Increasingly, I open 3.3, but I keep 2.6.21 
> because the look is more to my taste.   
>   
>
>   
> David
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
> >   
> >   
> > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:58, David Reiser via gnucash-user
> >   
> >   wrote:
> >   
> >   
> >  On a Mac, the Gnucash support files are either in the app bundle itself, 
> > or in ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash, so it takes a little work to 
> > move them from Windows/Linux to a Mac.
> >  --
> >  Dave Reiser
> >   dbrei...@icloud.com (mailto:dbrei...@icloud.com)
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   >  On Dec 2, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Gerry Starnes   > (mailto:gerrystar...@gmail.com)>  wrote:
> >   >
> >   >  I had the same problem with 3.3. I had to add a couple of steps though.
> >   >
> >   >  1) renamed the old folder in Applications to GnuCash 2.2
> >   >  2) created a new folder for GnuCash 3.3 in the Applications folder.
> >   >  3) copied all of the files in the window that opened when I double 
> > clicked the installer volume to the new GnuCash 3.3 folder
> >   >  4) clicked on GnuCash in the new folder
> >   >
> >   >  This opened GnuCash correctly and it also found my previous data 
> > files. Seems to me that something about the installation does not actually 
> > put the executable and support files in the Applications folder.
> >   >
> >   >  Gerry S
> >   >
> >   >  On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:21 PM David Reiser via gnucash-user  
> > mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org)   
> > >  wrote:
> >   >  On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Jules Levinson  
> > mailto:juleslevin...@comcast.net)   
> > >  wrote:
> >   >   >
> >   >   >  I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife 
> > has
> >   >   >  decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> >   >   >
> >   >   >  She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> >   >   >  whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several 
> > times. Many
> >   >   >  times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her 
> > with, at
> >   >   >  best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. 
> > Unfamiliar with
> >   >   >  the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will 
> > be able
> >   >   >  to assist me to assist her.
> >   >   >
> >   >   >  In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and 
> > queries. One
> >   >   >  resembled her experience closely:
> >   >   >
> >   >   >  "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the 
> > usual warning
> >   >   >  about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the 
> > GNUCash icon is
> >   >   >  seen 'bouncing' up  &  down on the lower docking bar, but after 
> > you 'click'
> >   >   >  Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process 
> > halts -
> >   >   >  nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and 
> > repeated the
> >   >   >  same installation process without success."
> >   >   >
> >   >   >  I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my 
> > computer."
> >   >   >
> >   >   >  Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.
> >   >   >
> >   >   >  Jules B. Levinson
> >   >   >  ___
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >  If the gnucash is in the Applications folder (usual place to install 
> > apps on a mac), and that is where it gets launched the first time when the 
> > system asks you if you want to run an app downloaded from the internet, 
> > when you say “Yes, run it”, the Mac fails to open the app. If you go back 
> > to the Applications folder and double click Gnucash again, it will open 
> > Gnucash as expected (without asking again if you’re sure). That’s what has 
> > been happening for me for many version releases, maybe even before the 3.x 
> > versions. After that first aborted launch for a new download, I have not 
> > had any launch failures.
> >   >
> >   >  So, plan to have to 

Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Dave,
I'm pretty sure Gerry was not talking about configuration files. His references 
to folders in Applications suggests that. The terminology he uses suggests he 
is more familiar with Windows or Linux than the Mac, since (as John notes 
elsewhere) the only installation one needs to do for Gnucash on the Mac is drag 
the executable into Applications. 
FWIW, Gerry, you can install different versions of gnucash on a mac simply by 
changing the name of the app in the Applications folder. I have 2.6.21 and 3.3 
side by side on my machine. Increasingly, I open 3.3, but I keep 2.6.21 because 
the look is more to my taste. 
David

 
 
  On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:58, David Reiser via 
gnucash-user wrote:   On a Mac, the Gnucash support 
files are either in the app bundle itself, or in ~/Library/Application 
Support/Gnucash, so it takes a little work to move them from Windows/Linux to a 
Mac.
--
Dave Reiser
dbrei...@icloud.com





> On Dec 2, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Gerry Starnes  wrote:
> 
> I had the same problem with 3.3. I had to add a couple of steps though. 
> 
> 1) renamed the old folder in Applications to GnuCash 2.2
> 2) created a new folder for GnuCash 3.3 in the Applications folder.
> 3) copied all of the files in the window that opened when I double clicked 
> the installer volume to the new GnuCash 3.3 folder
> 4) clicked on GnuCash in the new folder
> 
> This opened GnuCash correctly and it also found my previous data files. Seems 
> to me that something about the installation does not actually put the 
> executable and support files in the Applications folder.
> 
> Gerry S
> 
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:21 PM David Reiser via gnucash-user 
> mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Jules Levinson  > wrote:
> > 
> > I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> > decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> > 
> > She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> > whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times. Many
> > times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with, at
> > best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar with
> > the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be able
> > to assist me to assist her.
> > 
> > In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries. One
> > resembled her experience closely:
> > 
> > "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual warning
> > about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash icon is
> > seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you 'click'
> > Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
> > nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated the
> > same installation process without success."
> > 
> > I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my computer."
> > 
> > Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.
> > 
> > Jules B. Levinson
> > ___
> 
> 
> If the gnucash is in the Applications folder (usual place to install apps on 
> a mac), and that is where it gets launched the first time when the system 
> asks you if you want to run an app downloaded from the internet, when you say 
> “Yes, run it”, the Mac fails to open the app. If you go back to the 
> Applications folder and double click Gnucash again, it will open Gnucash as 
> expected (without asking again if you’re sure). That’s what has been 
> happening for me for many version releases, maybe even before the 3.x 
> versions. After that first aborted launch for a new download, I have not had 
> any launch failures. 
> 
> So, plan to have to open Gnucash twice on a Mac the first time you try 
> running a newly downloaded copy. 
> 
> Keep in mind, though, that double clicking on any gnucash data file on a mac 
> usually results in gnucash opening with the last data file it used, even if 
> that wasn’t the file you double-clicked in Finder. Use File>Open from within 
> Gnucash. Just launch Gnucash directly if you want to use the last file it had 
> open.
> --
> Dave Reiser
> dbrei...@icloud.com 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread John Ralls


> On Dec 3, 2018, at 2:17 AM, Jules Levinson  wrote:
> 
> I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> 
> She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times. Many
> times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with, at
> best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar with
> the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be able
> to assist me to assist her.
> 
> In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries. One
> resembled her experience closely:
> 
> "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual warning
> about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash icon is
> seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you 'click'
> Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
> nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated the
> same installation process without success."
> 
> I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my computer."
> 
> Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.

There’s no “installation process” beyond dragging GnuCash from the dmg to 
somewhere on disk. The first time you launch a program, MacOS runs some checks 
on it before starting it. Several users have reported that that process fails 
to start GnuCash after completing its checks and that if one simply 
double-clicks the GnuCash icon again it starts normally.

However, there are also a couple of Gtk bugs affecting GnuCash-3.3. What 
version of MacOS is she running, and if it’s 10.14 “Mojave” is she using Dark 
Mode?

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread David Reiser via gnucash-user
On a Mac, the Gnucash support files are either in the app bundle itself, or in 
~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash, so it takes a little work to move them 
from Windows/Linux to a Mac.
--
Dave Reiser
dbrei...@icloud.com





> On Dec 2, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Gerry Starnes  wrote:
> 
> I had the same problem with 3.3. I had to add a couple of steps though. 
> 
> 1) renamed the old folder in Applications to GnuCash 2.2
> 2) created a new folder for GnuCash 3.3 in the Applications folder.
> 3) copied all of the files in the window that opened when I double clicked 
> the installer volume to the new GnuCash 3.3 folder
> 4) clicked on GnuCash in the new folder
> 
> This opened GnuCash correctly and it also found my previous data files. Seems 
> to me that something about the installation does not actually put the 
> executable and support files in the Applications folder.
> 
> Gerry S
> 
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:21 PM David Reiser via gnucash-user 
> mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Jules Levinson  > wrote:
> > 
> > I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> > decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> > 
> > She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> > whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times. Many
> > times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with, at
> > best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar with
> > the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be able
> > to assist me to assist her.
> > 
> > In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries. One
> > resembled her experience closely:
> > 
> > "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual warning
> > about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash icon is
> > seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you 'click'
> > Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
> > nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated the
> > same installation process without success."
> > 
> > I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my computer."
> > 
> > Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.
> > 
> > Jules B. Levinson
> > ___
> 
> 
> If the gnucash is in the Applications folder (usual place to install apps on 
> a mac), and that is where it gets launched the first time when the system 
> asks you if you want to run an app downloaded from the internet, when you say 
> “Yes, run it”, the Mac fails to open the app. If you go back to the 
> Applications folder and double click Gnucash again, it will open Gnucash as 
> expected (without asking again if you’re sure). That’s what has been 
> happening for me for many version releases, maybe even before the 3.x 
> versions. After that first aborted launch for a new download, I have not had 
> any launch failures. 
> 
> So, plan to have to open Gnucash twice on a Mac the first time you try 
> running a newly downloaded copy. 
> 
> Keep in mind, though, that double clicking on any gnucash data file on a mac 
> usually results in gnucash opening with the last data file it used, even if 
> that wasn’t the file you double-clicked in Finder. Use File>Open from within 
> Gnucash. Just launch Gnucash directly if you want to use the last file it had 
> open.
> --
> Dave Reiser
> dbrei...@icloud.com 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread Jules Levinson
Thanks to everyone who is trying to help us install GnuCash. Never having
used a Mac, and also never having had any trouble with GnuCash on Windows
(I am no fan of Windows, but GnuCash does run on my machines without
difficulty), I am surprised to learn that others have experienced
such issues and completely at a loss for solutions. At least I now know,
and can report to my wife, that she's not alone. We will persist until we
resolve this successfully.

Jules

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:49 PM Jason Psenak  wrote:

> I was having the same issues no matter where I put it. I was able to
> finally get it to run by dragging it to the dock and then launching. Works
> fine for me now.
>
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 2:16 PM Gerry Starnes 
> wrote:
>
>> I had the same problem with 3.3. I had to add a couple of steps though.
>>
>> 1) renamed the old folder in Applications to GnuCash 2.2
>> 2) created a new folder for GnuCash 3.3 in the Applications folder.
>> 3) copied all of the files in the window that opened when I double clicked
>> the installer volume to the new GnuCash 3.3 folder
>> 4) clicked on GnuCash in the new folder
>>
>> This opened GnuCash correctly and it also found my previous data files.
>> Seems to me that something about the installation does not actually put
>> the
>> executable and support files in the Applications folder.
>>
>> Gerry S
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:21 PM David Reiser via gnucash-user <
>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>>
>> > On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Jules Levinson 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
>> > > decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
>> > >
>> > > She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
>> > > whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times.
>> Many
>> > > times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with,
>> at
>> > > best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar
>> with
>> > > the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be
>> > able
>> > > to assist me to assist her.
>> > >
>> > > In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries.
>> One
>> > > resembled her experience closely:
>> > >
>> > > "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual
>> > warning
>> > > about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash
>> icon
>> > is
>> > > seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you
>> 'click'
>> > > Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
>> > > nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated
>> the
>> > > same installation process without success."
>> > >
>> > > I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my
>> > computer."
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.
>> > >
>> > > Jules B. Levinson
>> > > ___
>> >
>> >
>> > If the gnucash is in the Applications folder (usual place to install
>> apps
>> > on a mac), and that is where it gets launched the first time when the
>> > system asks you if you want to run an app downloaded from the internet,
>> > when you say “Yes, run it”, the Mac fails to open the app. If you go
>> back
>> > to the Applications folder and double click Gnucash again, it will open
>> > Gnucash as expected (without asking again if you’re sure). That’s what
>> has
>> > been happening for me for many version releases, maybe even before the
>> 3.x
>> > versions. After that first aborted launch for a new download, I have not
>> > had any launch failures.
>> >
>> > So, plan to have to open Gnucash twice on a Mac the first time you try
>> > running a newly downloaded copy.
>> >
>> > Keep in mind, though, that double clicking on any gnucash data file on a
>> > mac usually results in gnucash opening with the last data file it used,
>> > even if that wasn’t the file you double-clicked in Finder. Use File>Open
>> > from within Gnucash. Just launch Gnucash directly if you want to use the
>> > last file it had open.
>> > --
>> > Dave Reiser
>> > dbrei...@icloud.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread Jason Psenak
I was having the same issues no matter where I put it. I was able to
finally get it to run by dragging it to the dock and then launching. Works
fine for me now.

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 2:16 PM Gerry Starnes  wrote:

> I had the same problem with 3.3. I had to add a couple of steps though.
>
> 1) renamed the old folder in Applications to GnuCash 2.2
> 2) created a new folder for GnuCash 3.3 in the Applications folder.
> 3) copied all of the files in the window that opened when I double clicked
> the installer volume to the new GnuCash 3.3 folder
> 4) clicked on GnuCash in the new folder
>
> This opened GnuCash correctly and it also found my previous data files.
> Seems to me that something about the installation does not actually put the
> executable and support files in the Applications folder.
>
> Gerry S
>
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:21 PM David Reiser via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Jules Levinson 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> > > decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> > >
> > > She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> > > whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times.
> Many
> > > times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with,
> at
> > > best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar
> with
> > > the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be
> > able
> > > to assist me to assist her.
> > >
> > > In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries.
> One
> > > resembled her experience closely:
> > >
> > > "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual
> > warning
> > > about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash
> icon
> > is
> > > seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you
> 'click'
> > > Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
> > > nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated
> the
> > > same installation process without success."
> > >
> > > I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my
> > computer."
> > >
> > > Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.
> > >
> > > Jules B. Levinson
> > > ___
> >
> >
> > If the gnucash is in the Applications folder (usual place to install apps
> > on a mac), and that is where it gets launched the first time when the
> > system asks you if you want to run an app downloaded from the internet,
> > when you say “Yes, run it”, the Mac fails to open the app. If you go back
> > to the Applications folder and double click Gnucash again, it will open
> > Gnucash as expected (without asking again if you’re sure). That’s what
> has
> > been happening for me for many version releases, maybe even before the
> 3.x
> > versions. After that first aborted launch for a new download, I have not
> > had any launch failures.
> >
> > So, plan to have to open Gnucash twice on a Mac the first time you try
> > running a newly downloaded copy.
> >
> > Keep in mind, though, that double clicking on any gnucash data file on a
> > mac usually results in gnucash opening with the last data file it used,
> > even if that wasn’t the file you double-clicked in Finder. Use File>Open
> > from within Gnucash. Just launch Gnucash directly if you want to use the
> > last file it had open.
> > --
> > Dave Reiser
> > dbrei...@icloud.com
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread Gerry Starnes
I had the same problem with 3.3. I had to add a couple of steps though.

1) renamed the old folder in Applications to GnuCash 2.2
2) created a new folder for GnuCash 3.3 in the Applications folder.
3) copied all of the files in the window that opened when I double clicked
the installer volume to the new GnuCash 3.3 folder
4) clicked on GnuCash in the new folder

This opened GnuCash correctly and it also found my previous data files.
Seems to me that something about the installation does not actually put the
executable and support files in the Applications folder.

Gerry S

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:21 PM David Reiser via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Jules Levinson 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> > decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> >
> > She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> > whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times. Many
> > times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with, at
> > best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar with
> > the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be
> able
> > to assist me to assist her.
> >
> > In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries. One
> > resembled her experience closely:
> >
> > "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual
> warning
> > about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash icon
> is
> > seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you 'click'
> > Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
> > nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated the
> > same installation process without success."
> >
> > I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my
> computer."
> >
> > Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.
> >
> > Jules B. Levinson
> > ___
>
>
> If the gnucash is in the Applications folder (usual place to install apps
> on a mac), and that is where it gets launched the first time when the
> system asks you if you want to run an app downloaded from the internet,
> when you say “Yes, run it”, the Mac fails to open the app. If you go back
> to the Applications folder and double click Gnucash again, it will open
> Gnucash as expected (without asking again if you’re sure). That’s what has
> been happening for me for many version releases, maybe even before the 3.x
> versions. After that first aborted launch for a new download, I have not
> had any launch failures.
>
> So, plan to have to open Gnucash twice on a Mac the first time you try
> running a newly downloaded copy.
>
> Keep in mind, though, that double clicking on any gnucash data file on a
> mac usually results in gnucash opening with the last data file it used,
> even if that wasn’t the file you double-clicked in Finder. Use File>Open
> from within Gnucash. Just launch Gnucash directly if you want to use the
> last file it had open.
> --
> Dave Reiser
> dbrei...@icloud.com
>
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Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread David Reiser via gnucash-user
On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Jules Levinson  wrote:
> 
> I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> 
> She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times. Many
> times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with, at
> best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar with
> the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be able
> to assist me to assist her.
> 
> In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries. One
> resembled her experience closely:
> 
> "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual warning
> about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash icon is
> seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you 'click'
> Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
> nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated the
> same installation process without success."
> 
> I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my computer."
> 
> Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.
> 
> Jules B. Levinson
> ___


If the gnucash is in the Applications folder (usual place to install apps on a 
mac), and that is where it gets launched the first time when the system asks 
you if you want to run an app downloaded from the internet, when you say “Yes, 
run it”, the Mac fails to open the app. If you go back to the Applications 
folder and double click Gnucash again, it will open Gnucash as expected 
(without asking again if you’re sure). That’s what has been happening for me 
for many version releases, maybe even before the 3.x versions. After that first 
aborted launch for a new download, I have not had any launch failures. 

So, plan to have to open Gnucash twice on a Mac the first time you try running 
a newly downloaded copy. 

Keep in mind, though, that double clicking on any gnucash data file on a mac 
usually results in gnucash opening with the last data file it used, even if 
that wasn’t the file you double-clicked in Finder. Use File>Open from within 
Gnucash. Just launch Gnucash directly if you want to use the last file it had 
open.
--
Dave Reiser
dbrei...@icloud.com



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Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread Frederick Bambrough
In message

 Jules Levinson  wrote:

> I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
> 
> She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times.
> Many times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her
> with, at best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program.
> Unfamiliar with the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this
> list will be able to assist me to assist her.
> 
> In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries.
> One resembled her experience closely:
> 
> "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual
> warning about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the
> GNUCash icon is seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but
> after you 'click' Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation
> process halts - nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads
> and repeated the same installation process without success."
> 
> I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my
> computer."
> 
> Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.

Drag the contents of the .dmg file to your Applications folder. Right
(option/alt) click on the GnuCash icon and select 'Open'from the menu.
Agree that you do want to open the app. You only need to follow this on
the first occasion, macOS will mark the application so it will open
normally thereafter.
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Re: [GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread Richard Jones
Jules
The answer is that you have to drag the dmg file ( system image file) to
the applications folder. That is what installs it as an app.
see
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/64845/how-do-i-install-applications-from-a-dmg-file
I am currently engaged in a very similar process - except that I am
migrating from PC to Mac.
I have had a lot of good help from other users on the forum, but this thing
about dragging the file was a little extra thing that I found out after
experiencing the same problem as your wife.
I should add that I found other problems, which you may or may not
experience - they may have been because of some mistake I made or because
migrating a PC file causes a problem which you would not get if starting
from scratch.
But I found mac gnucash 3.3 kept crashing.
I deleted everything and installed 2.6.21 this afternoon. It appears stable
and has now run for a few hours.
I should stress that I am not an expert on this at all but I hope this
helps.
Regards
Richard


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On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 17:21, Jules Levinson 
wrote:

> I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
> decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.
>
> She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
> whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times. Many
> times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with, at
> best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar with
> the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be able
> to assist me to assist her.
>
> In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries. One
> resembled her experience closely:
>
> "The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual warning
> about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash icon is
> seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you 'click'
> Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
> nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated the
> same installation process without success."
>
> I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my
> computer."
>
> Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.
>
> Jules B. Levinson
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[GNC] Installation on a Mac

2018-12-02 Thread Jules Levinson
I have used GnuCash for many years, but only on Windows. My wife has
decided to give GnuCash a try. She uses a Mac. I've never used one.

She downloaded the current *.dmg file from the website and then did
whatever one does on a Mac to install an application. Several times. Many
times. Installation failed, always in the same way, leaving her with, at
best, an icon for GnuCash but unable to open the program. Unfamiliar with
the Mac, I am unable to help her. I hope someone on this list will be able
to assist me to assist her.

In search of information, I stumbled across a few forums and queries. One
resembled her experience closely:

"The installation process appears to go normally, there's the usual warning
about 'Opening' a file downloaded from the internet and the GNUCash icon is
seen 'bouncing' up & down on the lower docking bar, but after you 'click'
Open the GNUCash icon disappears and the installation process halts -
nothing! No GNUCash. I've tried several fresh downloads and repeated the
same installation process without success."

I read this to her. She replied, "That is what is happening on my computer."

Thanks for whatever help you can offer us.

Jules B. Levinson
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