Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades
Russell, I tested with a fresh MATE install and it worked fine as expected. No gray box. Do you happen to have a custom CSS file in use? Are you using the default Mint theme or a custom theme? No one else so far has reproduced this problem you describe. Where *exactly* are you seeing a 'gray box'? If you are running 'stock' everything, without a screenshot of the problem area, I'm not sure I can be of any help. Regards, Adrien On 9/15/22 4:31 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Russell, Please use Reply-list or Reply-all so that all messages go through the list and everyone can see them. Others might be able to help better than I and readers in the future might benefit from the exchange. Personal correspondence is strongly discouraged unless specifically requested. (see the wiki about 'netiquette') As to your question, "I use the Mate version of Mint. Did you install Cinnamon?" yes, I installed Cinnamon, but I can certainly test with MATE. I'll get back to you here when that is done. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades
Russell, Please use Reply-list or Reply-all so that all messages go through the list and everyone can see them. Others might be able to help better than I and readers in the future might benefit from the exchange. Personal correspondence is strongly discouraged unless specifically requested. (see the wiki about 'netiquette') As to your question, "I use the Mate version of Mint. Did you install Cinnamon?" yes, I installed Cinnamon, but I can certainly test with MATE. I'll get back to you here when that is done. Regards, Adrien On 9/13/22 12:27 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Russell, I happen to have a Mint21 VM using VirtualBox I've been trying out so I installed GnuCash to test and see if I get the same issue. I don't. Everything works as expected. There is no gray box and I can highlight amounts from the left or right with no problems. Note, I tested this on a fresh, stock install of Mint21 with all updates (as of today) and the only other apps installed are the Vbox Guest Additions. So something must be amiss with your OS or theme. Since you indicated you upgraded, there might be something that didn't translate properly. Maybe consider backing up and doing a fresh Mint install if you can't track down the culprit. The fault lies not with GnuCash. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades
Russel, I'm running Linux Mint 21 with GnuCash 4.11 (built from tarball) installed and have no editing problems at all with it. Many of the interface teatures are determined by common libraries on which GnuCash depends particularly changes in the GTK libraries rather than in the gnuCash coding itself. This can be beyond the GnuCash developers control if changes in the underlying library produce behaviour changes in GnuCash until it is noticed and they create a workaround until the library is fixed. It may pay to check the installed runtime versions against the dependency list in the release notes. "dpkg -l | grep " where string is the name or part of the name of a package will usually list a package's installed version number. My Linux Mint was upgraded from 20.3 and not a clean install and I usually have the latest available versions of the dependencies installed as I build both the stable version from tarball and the current maint and master development branches which may account for why I don't see the grey box. All mouse actions and arrow keys work fine in editing values on my system. Was this in the register for an account or in a dialog box? To track the problem down will involve trying to determine what is different about your system from both mine or Adrien's (which should be a clean install of LM 21 running in the VM). David Cousens On Sat, 2022-09-10 at 15:43 +0100, Russell Gadd wrote: > It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface > design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just > upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8. > > In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the > number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the > field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other > software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to > delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement? > > While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When > reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago) > to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made > reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves > down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the > space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the > response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I > took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now > after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour? > > Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades
Russell, I happen to have a Mint21 VM using VirtualBox I've been trying out so I installed GnuCash to test and see if I get the same issue. I don't. Everything works as expected. There is no gray box and I can highlight amounts from the left or right with no problems. Note, I tested this on a fresh, stock install of Mint21 with all updates (as of today) and the only other apps installed are the Vbox Guest Additions. So something must be amiss with your OS or theme. Since you indicated you upgraded, there might be something that didn't translate properly. Maybe consider backing up and doing a fresh Mint install if you can't track down the culprit. The fault lies not with GnuCash. Regards, Adrien On 9/10/22 9:43 AM, Russell Gadd wrote: It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8. In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades
Op zondag 11 september 2022 02:22:34 CEST schreef Geoff: > In the reconciliation window, as you observed, SPACE will select / > deselect the current transaction, but not move to the next transaction. > As Gyle mentioned, using Ctrl-A and SPACE makes for a very speedy > reconciliation. > All common keyboard selection methods are available in these lists. Besides Ctrl-A to select all, perhaps using Shift-ArrowDown can also be useful to select a multiple splits (each Shift-ArrowDown will add one split to the selection) and then press SPACE to mark those as reconciled. Regards, Geert ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades
Hi Russell I am running GnuCash v4.8 on Windows 10. There are no problems selecting (from the left or the right) and editing amounts or any other fields. I suspect your issues are due to the underlying GUI libraries that came with Mint and not GnuCash itself. In the reconciliation window, as you observed, SPACE will select / deselect the current transaction, but not move to the next transaction. As Gyle mentioned, using Ctrl-A and SPACE makes for a very speedy reconciliation. Regards Geoff = On 11/09/2022 12:43 am, Russell Gadd wrote: It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8. In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement? While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago) to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour? Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades
I don't see your grey box issue. I can click on any field, deposit, withdrawal, shares, etc and edit the number. GC 4.8, xubuntu 20.04 On 9/10/22 08:43, Russell Gadd wrote: It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8. In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement? While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago) to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour? Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades
Sorry, I should have mentioned I'm on 4.11 Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Russell Gadd Date: 9/10/22 10:44 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Gnucash User Mail List Subject: [GNC] More UI downgrades It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8. In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement? While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago) to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour? Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades
Russ, I don't get the grey box, but it won't swipe from right to left. However, it does swipe from left to right, (huh?). Hope this helps with that issue. On your 2nd "gripe", that would be a nice enhancement or restoration if it used to work that way. In case you are unaware, did you know that if you do CTRL "A" and space it will select all the transactions in that sub window, either "debit" or "credit" and then you can unselect those that didn't clear. It may or may not be faster than the space bar causing it to move down automatically. Thank You, Gyle McCollam Gyle McCollam gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com> email From: gnucash-user on behalf of Russell Gadd Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 10:43 AM To: Gnucash User Mail List Subject: [GNC] More UI downgrades It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8. In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement? While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago) to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour? Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] More UI downgrades
It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8. In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement? While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago) to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour? Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
