Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
That's just another workaround though. It creates multiple transactions when in the real world, there was only one event. The Process Payment feature doesn't really 'support' the desired function, but can still be used to accomplish the the task. I'm personally comfortable using the 'assign payment' function, but I understand why others may prefer or expect the Process Payment window to facilitate this in one go. It isn't an entirely unreasonable request, and it was presented as just that, a request. Regards, Adrien On 8/8/22 3:07 PM, R. Victor Klassen wrote: Actually you can edit the suggested payment amount, and only “process” a partial payment. Then you can pay again, using Process Payment, and pay with a different account for the second payment. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Actually you can edit the suggested payment amount, and only “process” a partial payment. Then you can pay again, using Process Payment, and pay with a different account for the second payment. > On Aug 8, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > I agree, this is already possible, but *not* using the 'Process Payment' > feature as it is currently implemented. (that is, if one is paying on a > Vendor invoice.) > > To accomplish this, you have to enter the payment with multiple source splits > as Frank and others have noted, and AP as the debit split, then you have to > 'assign as payment' on the AP split using the right-click context menu. (you > might have to commit the transaction first, I don't recall if it works before > commit.) > > This will then let you assign the multi-source payment to an Invoice. > > I see the feature request as changing the Process Payment dialog to support > multiple sources. (A request I've seen here before) > > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 8/6/22 11:19 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: >> Am 07.08.22 um 03:04 schrieb Eric Hammond: >>> The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I >>> purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the >>> company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not >>> pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year. >> Then it's time to claim your easter egg ;-): >> Edit->Peeferences->Register Defaults, >> select Default Style: "Auto-Split ledger" or "Transaction Journal" >> More details in >> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/set-prefs.html#prefs-reg-def >> Then you can easily enter the differnt amounts. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Eric, you didn't specify your OS. To clarify other replies: If you are on Mac, you can't open your data file by clicking on it. But you can create a simple Automator Workflow or AppleScript (or other script) to create a shortcut for each book. (or use the Terminal) That would be useful if you need two or more books open at the same time. If you just need to switch between them one-at-a-time, then use the quicklist at the bottom of the File menu as already mentioned. Regards, Adrien On 8/6/22 8:04 PM, Eric Hammond wrote: As I am getting more of my accounts completely into GnuCash I find the need for two things: The first is the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems: one for my business and one for personal. My business is an LLC, and one legal requirement for that is there is no co-mingling of money. This gives me some protection from certain law suites and tax issues. I found an almost-work-around: two folders for Gnucash accessed with shortcuts that specified the target folder. It mostly worked, but was unstable and unreliable. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
I agree, this is already possible, but *not* using the 'Process Payment' feature as it is currently implemented. (that is, if one is paying on a Vendor invoice.) To accomplish this, you have to enter the payment with multiple source splits as Frank and others have noted, and AP as the debit split, then you have to 'assign as payment' on the AP split using the right-click context menu. (you might have to commit the transaction first, I don't recall if it works before commit.) This will then let you assign the multi-source payment to an Invoice. I see the feature request as changing the Process Payment dialog to support multiple sources. (A request I've seen here before) Regards, Adrien On 8/6/22 11:19 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: Am 07.08.22 um 03:04 schrieb Eric Hammond: The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year. Then it's time to claim your easter egg ;-): Edit->Peeferences->Register Defaults, select Default Style: "Auto-Split ledger" or "Transaction Journal" More details in https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/set-prefs.html#prefs-reg-def Then you can easily enter the differnt amounts. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Thank you, Victor, I suffered from a lack of imagination, and that works perfectly! In the real-world bills (and invoices) are often paid in "installments", which this correctly processes. Regards, Eric -Original Message- From: R. Victor Klassen Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 1:33 PM To: Eric Hammond Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash I routinely pay invoices from multiple accounts. We have pseudo customers for each farmers market we attend. After the market is done I create an invoice for the appropriate “customer “. I pay it twice. The first time with the amount that was paid by credit or debit card- to an account connected to the payment processor- and then the balance to petty cash. I have to edit the proposed payment amount the first time and then not close the invoice window before paying it again (I could close it and come back if I forgot but that’s not the efficient workflow) Is this what you want? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 7, 2022, at 3:18 PM, Eric Hammond wrote: > > Thanks again to all who answered my two part question (next time I > will make it two separate questions...) > > Frank, I already have that selected. The problem is not how transactions are > entered or displayed. > If I am entering a manual transaction, I can add any number of splits no > problem. > The issue is specifically with the Bill, or Invoice, "Process Payment" form > which only allows one payment amount, and one transfer account (from the > account tree). > If I bypass the "Process Payment" by using manual transactions the Bill or > Invoice is not closed. > > All the best, > Eric Hammond > > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 06:19:40 +0200 > From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" > To: Eric Hammond , "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash > Message-ID: <1e0d8ed8-6ba0-b5b8-4190-8664b349f...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > >> Am 07.08.22 um 03:04 schrieb Eric Hammond: >> The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I >> purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the >> company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not >> pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year. > > Then it's time to claim your easter egg ;-): > Edit->Peeferences->Register Defaults, > select Default Style: "Auto-Split ledger" or "Transaction Journal" > > More details in > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/set-prefs.html#prefs-re > g-def > > Then you can easily enter the differnt amounts. > > Regards > Frank > > > > -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:44:36 +1000 > From: flywire > To: Gnucash Users > Subject: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > More cat skinning: > >> * the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems: > * > > In Windows (or probably any GUI) double-click file in data folder and > it will use file association to open the file (in GnuCash). > > Alternatively, for each file: right-click file, create a shortcut, > drag shortcut to desktop. Same as above from desktop. > > > -- > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 06:28:50 -0500 > From: Tom Browder > To: Chris Good > Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >> On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 21:25 Chris Good wrote: >> From: Tom Browder >> Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2022 12:37 AM >> To: Chris Good >> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 08:51 Chris Good wrote: >> >> .., >> >> Can you copy the text out of the pdf statement? >> >> >> >> Getting "organized" text programmatically out of PDF is a giant pain. My >> current approach is almost completely programmatic. BTW, Raku is the >> "sister" language of Perl, and it is a "scripting" language. >> >> >> >> Raku can also use Perl modules so I can use Finance::Quote with it if need >> be. But, until I can get the bank data working, I won't be needing it. >> >> >> >> Thanks, Chris. >> >> >> >> -Tom
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
> Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 08:47:14 -0700 > From: Stan Brown > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash > Message-ID: <95206b08-a037-d3ee-ed88-21fac56d1...@fastmail.fm> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > … > Unlike most Windows programs, GC doesn't show you the location of each > file, only its name. (At least that's true in the version I'm running.) > That's why it's important to give the data files different names even if > they're in different folders . > > Stan Brown > Tehachapi, CA, USA > https://BrownMath.com Hi Stan, I definitely agree each GnuCash book should have a different name to reduce confusion. Recent versions of GnuCash show the full location in the status bar (bottom left) when the mouse pointer is over a file in the “File” menu. Regards, Chris Good ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Eric AFAIK you can do this by making a payment of less than the due amount from one account and then makea second (or more) payment from another account to the same invoice - just cant do it in a single step. David Cousens On Sun, 2022-08-07 at 19:17 +, Eric Hammond wrote: > Thanks again to all who answered my two part question (next time I will make > it two separate questions...) > > Frank, I already have that selected. The problem is not how transactions are > entered or displayed. > If I am entering a manual transaction, I can add any number of splits no > problem. > The issue is specifically with the Bill, or Invoice, "Process Payment" form > which only allows one payment amount, and one transfer account (from the > account tree). > If I bypass the "Process Payment" by using manual transactions the Bill or > Invoice is not closed. > > All the best, > Eric Hammond > > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 06:19:40 +0200 > From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" > To: Eric Hammond , "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash > Message-ID: <1e0d8ed8-6ba0-b5b8-4190-8664b349f...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Am 07.08.22 um 03:04 schrieb Eric Hammond: > > The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I > > purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the > > company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not > > pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year. > > Then it's time to claim your easter egg ;-): > Edit->Peeferences->Register Defaults, > select Default Style: "Auto-Split ledger" or "Transaction Journal" > > More details in > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/set-prefs.html#prefs-reg-def > > Then you can easily enter the differnt amounts. > > Regards > Frank > > > > -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:44:36 +1000 > From: flywire > To: Gnucash Users > Subject: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > More cat skinning: > > > * the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems: > * > > In Windows (or probably any GUI) double-click file in data folder and it > will use file association to open the file (in GnuCash). > > Alternatively, for each file: right-click file, create a shortcut, drag > shortcut to desktop. Same as above from desktop. > > > -- > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 06:28:50 -0500 > From: Tom Browder > To: Chris Good > Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 21:25 Chris Good wrote: > > From: Tom Browder > > Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2022 12:37 AM > > To: Chris Good > > Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 08:51 Chris Good wrote: > > > > .., > > > > Can you copy the text out of the pdf statement? > > > > > > > > Getting "organized" text programmatically out of PDF is a giant pain. My > > current approach is almost completely programmatic. BTW, Raku is the > > "sister" language of Perl, and it is a "scripting" language. > > > > > > > > Raku can also use Perl modules so I can use Finance::Quote with it if need > > be. But, until I can get the bank data working, I won't be needing it. > > > > > > > > Thanks, Chris. > > > > > > > > -Tom > > > > > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > > > > I was actually suggesting you just highlight the transactions in the pdf > > statement and copy/paste them into a > > > > spreadsheet or text file before using a scripting language to reformat them > > but if you can programmatically > > extract the text that would be better long term. > > But I did see Peter West's warning about checking results > carefully--it's not always the expected result. Although I hope the > products from the same source are consistent enough to make it > reasonably fool proof. (See my comments below.) > > > I notice with my PDF statement that (free) Adobe Acrobat DC no longer allows > > me to select text (as they want me t
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
I routinely pay invoices from multiple accounts. We have pseudo customers for each farmers market we attend. After the market is done I create an invoice for the appropriate “customer “. I pay it twice. The first time with the amount that was paid by credit or debit card- to an account connected to the payment processor- and then the balance to petty cash. I have to edit the proposed payment amount the first time and then not close the invoice window before paying it again (I could close it and come back if I forgot but that’s not the efficient workflow) Is this what you want? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 7, 2022, at 3:18 PM, Eric Hammond wrote: > > Thanks again to all who answered my two part question (next time I will make > it two separate questions...) > > Frank, I already have that selected. The problem is not how transactions are > entered or displayed. > If I am entering a manual transaction, I can add any number of splits no > problem. > The issue is specifically with the Bill, or Invoice, "Process Payment" form > which only allows one payment amount, and one transfer account (from the > account tree). > If I bypass the "Process Payment" by using manual transactions the Bill or > Invoice is not closed. > > All the best, > Eric Hammond > > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 06:19:40 +0200 > From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" > To: Eric Hammond , "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash > Message-ID: <1e0d8ed8-6ba0-b5b8-4190-8664b349f...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > >> Am 07.08.22 um 03:04 schrieb Eric Hammond: >> The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I >> purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the >> company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not >> pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year. > > Then it's time to claim your easter egg ;-): > Edit->Peeferences->Register Defaults, > select Default Style: "Auto-Split ledger" or "Transaction Journal" > > More details in > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/set-prefs.html#prefs-reg-def > > Then you can easily enter the differnt amounts. > > Regards > Frank > > > > -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:44:36 +1000 > From: flywire > To: Gnucash Users > Subject: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > More cat skinning: > >> * the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems: > * > > In Windows (or probably any GUI) double-click file in data folder and it > will use file association to open the file (in GnuCash). > > Alternatively, for each file: right-click file, create a shortcut, drag > shortcut to desktop. Same as above from desktop. > > > -- > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 06:28:50 -0500 > From: Tom Browder > To: Chris Good > Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >> On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 21:25 Chris Good wrote: >> From: Tom Browder >> Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2022 12:37 AM >> To: Chris Good >> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 08:51 Chris Good wrote: >> >> .., >> >> Can you copy the text out of the pdf statement? >> >> >> >> Getting "organized" text programmatically out of PDF is a giant pain. My >> current approach is almost completely programmatic. BTW, Raku is the >> "sister" language of Perl, and it is a "scripting" language. >> >> >> >> Raku can also use Perl modules so I can use Finance::Quote with it if need >> be. But, until I can get the bank data working, I won't be needing it. >> >> >> >> Thanks, Chris. >> >> >> >> -Tom >> >> >> >> Hi Tom, >> >> >> >> I was actually suggesting you just highlight the transactions in the pdf >> statement and copy/paste them into a >> >> spreadsheet or text file before using a scripting language to reformat them >> but if you can programmatically >> extract the text that would be better long term. > > But I did see Peter
[GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Thanks again to all who answered my two part question (next time I will make it
two separate questions...)
Frank, I already have that selected. The problem is not how transactions are
entered or displayed.
If I am entering a manual transaction, I can add any number of splits no
problem.
The issue is specifically with the Bill, or Invoice, "Process Payment" form
which only allows one payment amount, and one transfer account (from the
account tree).
If I bypass the "Process Payment" by using manual transactions the Bill or
Invoice is not closed.
All the best,
Eric Hammond
Message: 6
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 06:19:40 +0200
From: "Frank H. Ellenberger"
To: Eric Hammond , "gnucash-user@gnucash.org"
Subject: Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Message-ID: <1e0d8ed8-6ba0-b5b8-4190-8664b349f...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Am 07.08.22 um 03:04 schrieb Eric Hammond:
> The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I
> purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the
> company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not
> pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year.
Then it's time to claim your easter egg ;-):
Edit->Peeferences->Register Defaults,
select Default Style: "Auto-Split ledger" or "Transaction Journal"
More details in
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/set-prefs.html#prefs-reg-def
Then you can easily enter the differnt amounts.
Regards
Frank
--
Message: 7
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:44:36 +1000
From: flywire
To: Gnucash Users
Subject: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
More cat skinning:
>* the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems:
*
In Windows (or probably any GUI) double-click file in data folder and it
will use file association to open the file (in GnuCash).
Alternatively, for each file: right-click file, create a shortcut, drag
shortcut to desktop. Same as above from desktop.
--
Message: 8
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 06:28:50 -0500
From: Tom Browder
To: Chris Good
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 21:25 Chris Good wrote:
> From: Tom Browder
> Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2022 12:37 AM
> To: Chris Good
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 08:51 Chris Good wrote:
>
> ..,
>
> Can you copy the text out of the pdf statement?
>
>
>
> Getting "organized" text programmatically out of PDF is a giant pain. My
> current approach is almost completely programmatic. BTW, Raku is the "sister"
> language of Perl, and it is a "scripting" language.
>
>
>
> Raku can also use Perl modules so I can use Finance::Quote with it if need
> be. But, until I can get the bank data working, I won't be needing it.
>
>
>
> Thanks, Chris.
>
>
>
> -Tom
>
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
>
>
> I was actually suggesting you just highlight the transactions in the pdf
> statement and copy/paste them into a
>
> spreadsheet or text file before using a scripting language to reformat them
> but if you can programmatically
> extract the text that would be better long term.
But I did see Peter West's warning about checking results
carefully--it's not always the expected result. Although I hope the
products from the same source are consistent enough to make it
reasonably fool proof. (See my comments below.)
> I notice with my PDF statement that (free) Adobe Acrobat DC no longer allows
> me to select text (as they want me to pay for a fancy tool - BOO) but if you
> send the pdf to Edge or Chrome you can select just the transaction text.
Yes, I now see my "PDF COmplete" on Windows can do that--I never
thought of doing that until now.
> Thanks for the info re Raku.
You're welcome! I'm always happy for programmers to learn about Raku
> Finance::Quote is just for getting stock prices from websites (usually) so
> not useful for this task.
Right, but good to know for later.
> Are you sure you cannot export transactions from your bank? All mine do
> although sometimes it is hard to find.
Yes, and I agree it's sometimes hard to find. Yesterday I did find one
bank (the bank I'm leaving) does have two choices of download for the
credit card: CSV and OFX. That is very helpful for working on a
transformation algorithm. I did look at the PDF to text transformation
on one of the new bank's statements (definitely nothing but PDFs) and
it looks surprisi
[GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Thanks Stan, and all who have replied. I have tried something similar on v4.09, with different folder names but not changing the data file name itself. That version became unstable and GnuCash stopped finding either one. I will experiment and report back. Eric Hammond Message: 3 Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 08:47:14 -0700 From: Stan Brown To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash Message-ID: <95206b08-a037-d3ee-ed88-21fac56d1...@fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 2022-08-07 00:44, flywire wrote: > More cat skinning: > >> * the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems: > * > > In Windows (or probably any GUI) double-click file in data folder and > it will use file association to open the file (in GnuCash). > > Alternatively, for each file: right-click file, create a shortcut, > drag shortcut to desktop. Same as above from desktop. >From desktop _or_ Start Menu, as a matter of fact. I choose the latter, because I like to keep my desktop clean. Buy there's another option, that I don't think I've seen posted yet. The OP is presumably using those "multiple file systems" to keep books on different entities. The user should give the files different names even though storing them in different locations. Then, if the user forgets to use the shortcuts you suggested, or just doesn't like the shortcut idea, they can simply open GnuCash from the regular program icon. GC will automatically open the last file the user was working on. If that's the "wrong" one, click File and the last N files worked on will appear in the menu; just select the appropriate one. Unlike most Windows programs, GC doesn't show you the location of each file, only its name. (At least that's true in the version I'm running.) That's why it's important to give the data files different names even if they're in different folders . Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- End of gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 20 * ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
On 2022-08-07 00:44, flywire wrote: > More cat skinning: > >> * the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems: > * > > In Windows (or probably any GUI) double-click file in data folder and it > will use file association to open the file (in GnuCash). > > Alternatively, for each file: right-click file, create a shortcut, drag > shortcut to desktop. Same as above from desktop. >From desktop _or_ Start Menu, as a matter of fact. I choose the latter, because I like to keep my desktop clean. Buy there's another option, that I don't think I've seen posted yet. The OP is presumably using those "multiple file systems" to keep books on different entities. The user should give the files different names even though storing them in different locations. Then, if the user forgets to use the shortcuts you suggested, or just doesn't like the shortcut idea, they can simply open GnuCash from the regular program icon. GC will automatically open the last file the user was working on. If that's the "wrong" one, click File and the last N files worked on will appear in the menu; just select the appropriate one. Unlike most Windows programs, GC doesn't show you the location of each file, only its name. (At least that's true in the version I'm running.) That's why it's important to give the data files different names even if they're in different folders . Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
More cat skinning: >* the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems: * In Windows (or probably any GUI) double-click file in data folder and it will use file association to open the file (in GnuCash). Alternatively, for each file: right-click file, create a shortcut, drag shortcut to desktop. Same as above from desktop. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Am 07.08.22 um 03:04 schrieb Eric Hammond: > The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I > purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the > company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not > pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year. Then it's time to claim your easter egg ;-): Edit->Peeferences->Register Defaults, select Default Style: "Auto-Split ledger" or "Transaction Journal" More details in https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/set-prefs.html#prefs-reg-def Then you can easily enter the differnt amounts. Regards Frank ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
On 8/6/2022 10:53 PM, Bruce Irving wrote: I have three separate data files: personal and two for non-profit organizations. I've always started gnucash by selecting the data file. I have tried putting a link to the data file on my desktop (both when I was using Ms and now with Linux.) The only problem is that the log files are created on the desktop. If I navigate to the data directory (folder) and double click the data file, the log files are created in the data directory. In Ms, I could have the link start in the data folder. Unfortunately, I haven't found how to do that in Linux yet. The last line says it all. a) Learn how you would submit gnucash from the command line. In other words, what is the string of characters such that if you had that string on the command line and hit enter it would change to the right directory and invoke the program with the parameters wanted (the data file name one of these) b) Learn how to create an "object" on your desktop such that when you clicked on that object it would have the same effect as entering that string at the command line. When you can do those two things, you can have three such objects, one for each of your three sets of books. But please note that what you have learned is not specific to gnucash. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
.but you could do the same with a script on any platform. You could have as many as you like, not just two. I have been doing this for years and have never had a single problem from running this way. As in Moliere's /*The bourgeois Gentleman */"been speaking prose all my life and didn't know it". Since the person initially asking the question referred to having multiple shortcuts --- if you take a look at a shortcut (on Windows, right click and look at its properties) you will see that's what it is. Clicking on that shortcut is the equivalent of typing that string of characters at the command line and hitting enter. It's a script. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Eric, This is already possible, at least on Linux but I suspect also in Windows too ( this link may provide a way https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/add-an-app-to-run-automatically-at-startup-in-windows-10-150da165-dcd9-7230-517b-cf3c295d89dd ). On Linux Mint I can create multiple launchers for the GNuCash app and in the launcher, which executes a terminal command of the form "gnucash " without opening a terminal, I specify different filenames. The only difficucly is that the user and gnucash preferences will be the same with all data files, which may or may not be a problem. David Cousens On Sun, 2022-08-07 at 01:04 +, Eric Hammond wrote: > As I am getting more of my accounts completely into GnuCash I find the need > for two things: > The first is the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems: > one for my business and one for personal. > My business is an LLC, and one legal requirement for that is there is no co- > mingling of money. > This gives me some protection from certain law suites and tax issues. > > I found an almost-work-around: two folders for Gnucash accessed with shortcuts > that specified the target folder. It mostly worked, but was unstable and > unreliable. > > The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I > purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the company > and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not pretty, > nor helpful if I look at it next year. > > Thank you for the great work! > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
I have three separate data files: personal and two for non-profit organizations. I've always started gnucash by selecting the data file. I have tried putting a link to the data file on my desktop (both when I was using Ms and now with Linux.) The only problem is that the log files are created on the desktop. If I navigate to the data directory (folder) and double click the data file, the log files are created in the data directory. In Ms, I could have the link start in the data folder. Unfortunately, I haven't found how to do that in Linux yet. Bruce On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 7:05 PM Eric Hammond wrote: > As I am getting more of my accounts completely into GnuCash I find the > need for two things: > The first is the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file > systems: one for my business and one for personal. > My business is an LLC, and one legal requirement for that is there is no > co-mingling of money. > This gives me some protection from certain law suites and tax issues. > > I found an almost-work-around: two folders for Gnucash accessed with > shortcuts that specified the target folder. It mostly worked, but was > unstable and unreliable. > > The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example > I purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the > company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not > pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year. > > Thank you for the great work! > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Both of these are already possible. I maintain two GnuCash files, and most often run both of them at the same time with two different instances of GnuCash. You just have to tell it which file to open, either by using “File/Open” or with a command line argument. I do this on a Mac with command line arguments in an Alfred workflow but you could do the same with a script on any platform.You could have as many as you like, not just two. I have been doing this for years and have never had a single problem from running this way. As for multiple payment sources, just show the splits on the transaction and you can enter as many payment sources as you like for the transaction, each in a separate split entry. > On Aug 6, 2022, at 8:05 PM, Eric Hammond wrote: > > As I am getting more of my accounts completely into GnuCash I find the need > for two things: > The first is the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file > systems: one for my business and one for personal. > My business is an LLC, and one legal requirement for that is there is no > co-mingling of money. > This gives me some protection from certain law suites and tax issues. > > I found an almost-work-around: two folders for Gnucash accessed with > shortcuts that specified the target folder. It mostly worked, but was > unstable and unreliable. > > The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I > purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the > company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not > pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year. > > Thank you for the great work! > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Eric, Both of those situations should be easy to deal with. I have three Gnucash files, one personal and two for organizations. Gnucash opens with the last one I used. I can switch to one of the others from the items listed at the bottom of the File menu. All transactions can have any number of splits. Put the total cost of the oscilloscope on one side of a transaction, and have two lines for the other side, one for the cash incentive and another for the bank transfer. Maybe I am missing something. Will On 2022 Aug 6, at 08-06 20:04:12, Eric Hammond wrote: As I am getting more of my accounts completely into GnuCash I find the need for two things: The first is the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems: one for my business and one for personal. My business is an LLC, and one legal requirement for that is there is no co-mingling of money. This gives me some protection from certain law suites and tax issues. I found an almost-work-around: two folders for Gnucash accessed with shortcuts that specified the target folder. It mostly worked, but was unstable and unreliable. The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year. Thank you for the great work! ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
As I am getting more of my accounts completely into GnuCash I find the need for two things: The first is the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems: one for my business and one for personal. My business is an LLC, and one legal requirement for that is there is no co-mingling of money. This gives me some protection from certain law suites and tax issues. I found an almost-work-around: two folders for Gnucash accessed with shortcuts that specified the target folder. It mostly worked, but was unstable and unreliable. The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year. Thank you for the great work! ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
