Re: [GNC] The man who saw everything twice....

2021-01-24 Thread Peter S. Shenkin
Thank you, Micheal.

I wanted them at the top, so the following works for that:

   - Parent account balances = Subtotal
   - Parent account subtotals = Do not Show.

Thank you again,
-P.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 1:54 PM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> That's the right place. Make the selection that you want.
>
> For example, if like me you want the total afterwards, you want (for
> "Parent account balances" to be "do not show" and for "parent account
> subtotal" you want "show subtotals".
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>- Parent account balances
>   - Subtotal (I have this selected)
>   - Account Balance
>   - Do not show
>- Parent account subtotals
>   - Show subtotals (I have this selected)
>   - Do not show
>   - Text book style (experimental)
>
> It's not impossible that I am missing it somewhere, but if so, please tell
> me where to look.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] The man who saw everything twice....

2021-01-24 Thread Michael or Penny Novack

That's the right place. Make the selection that you want.

For example, if like me you want the total afterwards, you want (for 
"Parent account balances" to be "do not show" and for "parent account 
subtotal" you want "show subtotals".


Michael



  * Parent account balances
  o Subtotal (I have this selected)
  o Account Balance
  o Do not show
  * Parent account subtotals
  o Show subtotals (I have this selected)
  o Do not show
  o Text book style (experimental)

It's not impossible that I am missing it somewhere, but if so, please 
tell me where to look.




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Re: [GNC] The man who saw everything twice....

2021-01-24 Thread Peter S. Shenkin
Thanks.

   - Parent account balances
  - Subtotal: Shows subaccount balances twice, as shown.
  - Account Balance: Shows $0 on the parent-account line and the
  correct balance after all sub-account balances have been listed.
  - Leaves out the $0 amounts in Account Balance.

Overall, what I have is better for my purposes than the alternative,

-P.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:37 AM Maf. King  wrote:

> On Sunday, 24 January 2021 15:03:42 GMT Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
> >- Parent account balances
> >   - Subtotal (I have this selected)
> >   - Account Balance
> >   - Do not show
> >- Parent account subtotals
> >   - Show subtotals (I have this selected)
> >   - Do not show
> >   - Text book style (experimental)
>
>
> Try a different setting for the top choice, rather than showing subtotal
> in
> both choices.
>
> 0.02, haven't actually checked on my GC installation.
>
> Maf.
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Re: [GNC] The man who saw everything twice....

2021-01-24 Thread Maf. King
On Sunday, 24 January 2021 15:03:42 GMT Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
>- Parent account balances
>   - Subtotal (I have this selected)
>   - Account Balance
>   - Do not show
>- Parent account subtotals
>   - Show subtotals (I have this selected)
>   - Do not show
>   - Text book style (experimental)


Try a different setting for the top choice, rather than showing subtotal in 
both choices.

0.02, haven't actually checked on my GC installation.

Maf.
 

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Re: [GNC] The man who saw everything twice....

2021-01-24 Thread Peter S. Shenkin
Christopher, thank you for confirming that there is no way to do this.

But then, where does Michael's comment come from, to the effect that

'One of the things you get to choose is how you see "subtotals" - none,
before, after, or both.'


???

Is Michael perhaps using an in-development version?

-P.



On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 10:18 AM Christopher Lam 
wrote:

> > Why do Gnucash balance sheets print account and subaccount totals twice:
> once at the beginning of each such account and again at the end?
>
> Because you'd selected Subtotal on both options as you described. This is
> a long-standing wart/bug because it's nonsensical to allow subtotals to be
> shown both before and after each account+subaccounts. And it's impossible
> to fix this behaviour without angering many long term users. The "next-gen"
> balance sheet is in the experimental reports menu; the latter will never
> show subtotals twice.
>
>
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2021, 11:04 pm Peter S. Shenkin,  wrote:
>
>> Please tell me where this option is.
>>
>> I already said that I didn't see an option for this. I looked before
>> posting and just looked again. I don't see anything like what you
>> mentioned. I believe I have been through all the Options and in fact I got
>> as far as I did by specifying several. For example, I see the following
>> options in Display that pertain to the account balances:
>>
>>- Parent account balances
>>   - Subtotal (I have this selected)
>>   - Account Balance
>>   - Do not show
>>- Parent account subtotals
>>   - Show subtotals (I have this selected)
>>   - Do not show
>>   - Text book style (experimental)
>>
>> It's not impossible that I am missing it somewhere, but if so, please tell
>> me where to look.
>>
>> I also looked in Preferences > Reports, but I see nothing relevant there
>> either.
>>
>> -P.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 9:28 AM Michael or Penny Novack <
>> stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On 1/24/2021 12:26 AM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
>> > > Gnucash 4.3 on a mac.
>> > >
>> > > Why do Gnucash balance sheets print account and subaccount totals
>> twice:
>> > > once at the beginning of each such account and again at the end?
>> > >
>> > > It adds a large number of extra lines and no new information, and
>> > > balance-sheet examples from (the few) accounting books on my shelf do
>> not
>> > > do this.
>> > >
>> > > I find this very annoying and cannot find an option to turn this off.
>> Is
>> > > there a hidden way? Or even an obvious way that I'm just missing?
>> > >
>> > Edit => Report Options
>> >
>> > One of the things you get to choose is how you see "subtotals" -
>> > none, before, after, or both. Sounds like you are doing both. Just turn
>> > off the one you don't want and keep the one you do want. My personal
>> > preference is "after" so that's what I specify.
>> >
>> > I will suggest again, anybody new to gnucash should spend a little time
>> > investigating the options available to each report used. You don;t have
>> > to accept the defaults.
>> >
>> > Michael D Novack
>> >
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Re: [GNC] The man who saw everything twice....

2021-01-24 Thread Christopher Lam
> Why do Gnucash balance sheets print account and subaccount totals twice:
once at the beginning of each such account and again at the end?

Because you'd selected Subtotal on both options as you described. This is a
long-standing wart/bug because it's nonsensical to allow subtotals to be
shown both before and after each account+subaccounts. And it's impossible
to fix this behaviour without angering many long term users. The "next-gen"
balance sheet is in the experimental reports menu; the latter will never
show subtotals twice.


On Sun, 24 Jan 2021, 11:04 pm Peter S. Shenkin,  wrote:

> Please tell me where this option is.
>
> I already said that I didn't see an option for this. I looked before
> posting and just looked again. I don't see anything like what you
> mentioned. I believe I have been through all the Options and in fact I got
> as far as I did by specifying several. For example, I see the following
> options in Display that pertain to the account balances:
>
>- Parent account balances
>   - Subtotal (I have this selected)
>   - Account Balance
>   - Do not show
>- Parent account subtotals
>   - Show subtotals (I have this selected)
>   - Do not show
>   - Text book style (experimental)
>
> It's not impossible that I am missing it somewhere, but if so, please tell
> me where to look.
>
> I also looked in Preferences > Reports, but I see nothing relevant there
> either.
>
> -P.
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 9:28 AM Michael or Penny Novack <
> stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > On 1/24/2021 12:26 AM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
> > > Gnucash 4.3 on a mac.
> > >
> > > Why do Gnucash balance sheets print account and subaccount totals
> twice:
> > > once at the beginning of each such account and again at the end?
> > >
> > > It adds a large number of extra lines and no new information, and
> > > balance-sheet examples from (the few) accounting books on my shelf do
> not
> > > do this.
> > >
> > > I find this very annoying and cannot find an option to turn this off.
> Is
> > > there a hidden way? Or even an obvious way that I'm just missing?
> > >
> > Edit => Report Options
> >
> > One of the things you get to choose is how you see "subtotals" -
> > none, before, after, or both. Sounds like you are doing both. Just turn
> > off the one you don't want and keep the one you do want. My personal
> > preference is "after" so that's what I specify.
> >
> > I will suggest again, anybody new to gnucash should spend a little time
> > investigating the options available to each report used. You don;t have
> > to accept the defaults.
> >
> > Michael D Novack
> >
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Re: [GNC] The man who saw everything twice....

2021-01-24 Thread Peter S. Shenkin
Please tell me where this option is.

I already said that I didn't see an option for this. I looked before
posting and just looked again. I don't see anything like what you
mentioned. I believe I have been through all the Options and in fact I got
as far as I did by specifying several. For example, I see the following
options in Display that pertain to the account balances:

   - Parent account balances
  - Subtotal (I have this selected)
  - Account Balance
  - Do not show
   - Parent account subtotals
  - Show subtotals (I have this selected)
  - Do not show
  - Text book style (experimental)

It's not impossible that I am missing it somewhere, but if so, please tell
me where to look.

I also looked in Preferences > Reports, but I see nothing relevant there
either.

-P.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 9:28 AM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 1/24/2021 12:26 AM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
> > Gnucash 4.3 on a mac.
> >
> > Why do Gnucash balance sheets print account and subaccount totals twice:
> > once at the beginning of each such account and again at the end?
> >
> > It adds a large number of extra lines and no new information, and
> > balance-sheet examples from (the few) accounting books on my shelf do not
> > do this.
> >
> > I find this very annoying and cannot find an option to turn this off. Is
> > there a hidden way? Or even an obvious way that I'm just missing?
> >
> Edit => Report Options
>
> One of the things you get to choose is how you see "subtotals" -
> none, before, after, or both. Sounds like you are doing both. Just turn
> off the one you don't want and keep the one you do want. My personal
> preference is "after" so that's what I specify.
>
> I will suggest again, anybody new to gnucash should spend a little time
> investigating the options available to each report used. You don;t have
> to accept the defaults.
>
> Michael D Novack
>
>
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Re: [GNC] The man who saw everything twice....

2021-01-24 Thread Michael or Penny Novack

On 1/24/2021 12:26 AM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:

Gnucash 4.3 on a mac.

Why do Gnucash balance sheets print account and subaccount totals twice:
once at the beginning of each such account and again at the end?

It adds a large number of extra lines and no new information, and
balance-sheet examples from (the few) accounting books on my shelf do not
do this.

I find this very annoying and cannot find an option to turn this off. Is
there a hidden way? Or even an obvious way that I'm just missing?


Edit => Report Options

One of the things you get to choose is how you see "subtotals" - 
none, before, after, or both. Sounds like you are doing both. Just turn 
off the one you don't want and keep the one you do want. My personal 
preference is "after" so that's what I specify.


I will suggest again, anybody new to gnucash should spend a little time 
investigating the options available to each report used. You don;t have 
to accept the defaults.


Michael D Novack


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[GNC] The man who saw everything twice....

2021-01-23 Thread Peter S. Shenkin
Gnucash 4.3 on a mac.

Why do Gnucash balance sheets print account and subaccount totals twice:
once at the beginning of each such account and again at the end?

It adds a large number of extra lines and no new information, and
balance-sheet examples from (the few) accounting books on my shelf do not
do this.

I find this very annoying and cannot find an option to turn this off. Is
there a hidden way? Or even an obvious way that I'm just missing?

Thanks,
-P.
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