Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Adrien Monteleone]

You should file a bug report on the date issue.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 2, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Alun Champion  wrote:
> 
> I'm using a custom date.
> And flipping back between 2.6.21 and 3.1 that date is lost (in both 
> directions).
>-A.
> 
> On 2 June 2018 at 09:36, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> Nice find.
> 
> On the report start date issue, are you using a specific custom date or one 
> of the presets?
> 
> Mine are all set to ’start of accounting period’ and my book’s accounting 
> period is set to ’start of current year’. I’m not seeing any loss of start 
> dates.
> 
> Perhaps some other date setting is where the issue lies.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> > On Jun 2, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Alun Champion  wrote:
> > 
> > Thank you all, this gave me enough information to track down and create
> > custom styling, having the tabs down the left side meant all the top and
> > bottom margin and padding was just wasted space.
> > 
> > Note: One minor issue I found when switching between 2.6.21 and 3.1 is that
> > any open reports seems to lose the start date, no idea why.
> > 
> > I’m on a Mac, was able to run the gtk3 inspector by running
> > GTK_DEBUG=interactive
> > /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash from the command line,
> > which shows the various css nodes (and you can experiment with the
> > styling). And created a ~/Library/Application\ Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css
> > for tight tabs:
> > 
> > notebook tab {
> >  min-height: 0px;
> >  margin-top: 0px;
> >  margin-bottom: 0px;
> >  padding-left: 0px;
> >  padding-right: 0px;
> > }
> > 
> > notebook tab box {
> >  padding-top: 2px;
> >  padding-bottom: 2px;
> > }
> > 
> > I was also able to change the colors in the reports by changing the
> > base_colors in
> > /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/share/gnucash/scm/html-utilities.scm
> > .
> > ​
> > 
> > On 30 May 2018 at 07:07, Mike Evans  wrote:
> > 
> >> On Wed, 30 May 2018 10:00:56 +0100
> >> Mike Evans  wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Wed, 30 May 2018 00:12:00 -0500
> >>> Alun Champion  wrote:
> >>> 
>  MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.
>  
>  If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left),
> >> I
>  would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as
> >> 2.6.X. I
>  keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and
> >> this
>  comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling. The
> >> arrows
>  to scroll up and down are particularly slow and with also losing the
>  ability to scroll the tabs then this becomes very awkward.
>  Also it seems the stylesheets aren't working - or at a minimum there
> >> are no
>  color changes between the stylesheets and the new colours are quite
> >> 'prime'.
>  Changing settings also seems to be very slow, with quite a lag between
>  selecting an option and for the tick to appear or disappear.
>  
>  I guess I will need to figure out how to change the styles - colours
> >> and
>  fonts - default fonts for 2.6.X worked fine for me but the new fonts
> >> are
>  too spidery.
>  
>  But still a fantastic piece of software - thank you all for such great
> >> work.
> -A.
>  
> >>> 
> >>> There's a theme here that helps a little.
> >>> https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1179399/
> >>> 
> >> I went with Adwaita-Slim https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1181146/ after a
> >> little testing.
> >> 
> >> If you want even narrower notebook tabs, edit
> >> 
> >> ~/.themes/Adwaita Slim/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
> >> 
> >> Search for "tabs" or "notebook"
> >> 
> >> Mike E
> >> 
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Alun Champion]

I'm using a custom date.
And flipping back between 2.6.21 and 3.1 that date is lost (in both
directions).
   -A.

On 2 June 2018 at 09:36, Adrien Monteleone 
wrote:

> Nice find.
>
> On the report start date issue, are you using a specific custom date or
> one of the presets?
>
> Mine are all set to ’start of accounting period’ and my book’s accounting
> period is set to ’start of current year’. I’m not seeing any loss of start
> dates.
>
> Perhaps some other date setting is where the issue lies.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Jun 2, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Alun Champion  wrote:
> >
> > Thank you all, this gave me enough information to track down and create
> > custom styling, having the tabs down the left side meant all the top and
> > bottom margin and padding was just wasted space.
> >
> > Note: One minor issue I found when switching between 2.6.21 and 3.1 is
> that
> > any open reports seems to lose the start date, no idea why.
> >
> > I’m on a Mac, was able to run the gtk3 inspector by running
> > GTK_DEBUG=interactive
> > /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash from the command line,
> > which shows the various css nodes (and you can experiment with the
> > styling). And created a ~/Library/Application\
> Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css
> > for tight tabs:
> >
> > notebook tab {
> >  min-height: 0px;
> >  margin-top: 0px;
> >  margin-bottom: 0px;
> >  padding-left: 0px;
> >  padding-right: 0px;
> > }
> >
> > notebook tab box {
> >  padding-top: 2px;
> >  padding-bottom: 2px;
> > }
> >
> > I was also able to change the colors in the reports by changing the
> > base_colors in
> > /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/share/
> gnucash/scm/html-utilities.scm
> > .
> > ​
> >
> > On 30 May 2018 at 07:07, Mike Evans  wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 30 May 2018 10:00:56 +0100
> >> Mike Evans  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wed, 30 May 2018 00:12:00 -0500
> >>> Alun Champion  wrote:
> >>>
>  MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.
> 
>  If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left),
> >> I
>  would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as
> >> 2.6.X. I
>  keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and
> >> this
>  comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling. The
> >> arrows
>  to scroll up and down are particularly slow and with also losing the
>  ability to scroll the tabs then this becomes very awkward.
>  Also it seems the stylesheets aren't working - or at a minimum there
> >> are no
>  color changes between the stylesheets and the new colours are quite
> >> 'prime'.
>  Changing settings also seems to be very slow, with quite a lag between
>  selecting an option and for the tick to appear or disappear.
> 
>  I guess I will need to figure out how to change the styles - colours
> >> and
>  fonts - default fonts for 2.6.X worked fine for me but the new fonts
> >> are
>  too spidery.
> 
>  But still a fantastic piece of software - thank you all for such great
> >> work.
> -A.
> 
> >>>
> >>> There's a theme here that helps a little.
> >>> https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1179399/
> >>>
> >> I went with Adwaita-Slim https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1181146/ after a
> >> little testing.
> >>
> >> If you want even narrower notebook tabs, edit
> >>
> >> ~/.themes/Adwaita Slim/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
> >>
> >> Search for "tabs" or "notebook"
> >>
> >> Mike E
> >>
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Adrien Monteleone]

Nice find.

On the report start date issue, are you using a specific custom date or one of 
the presets?

Mine are all set to ’start of accounting period’ and my book’s accounting 
period is set to ’start of current year’. I’m not seeing any loss of start 
dates.

Perhaps some other date setting is where the issue lies.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 2, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Alun Champion  wrote:
> 
> Thank you all, this gave me enough information to track down and create
> custom styling, having the tabs down the left side meant all the top and
> bottom margin and padding was just wasted space.
> 
> Note: One minor issue I found when switching between 2.6.21 and 3.1 is that
> any open reports seems to lose the start date, no idea why.
> 
> I’m on a Mac, was able to run the gtk3 inspector by running
> GTK_DEBUG=interactive
> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash from the command line,
> which shows the various css nodes (and you can experiment with the
> styling). And created a ~/Library/Application\ Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css
> for tight tabs:
> 
> notebook tab {
>  min-height: 0px;
>  margin-top: 0px;
>  margin-bottom: 0px;
>  padding-left: 0px;
>  padding-right: 0px;
> }
> 
> notebook tab box {
>  padding-top: 2px;
>  padding-bottom: 2px;
> }
> 
> I was also able to change the colors in the reports by changing the
> base_colors in
> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/share/gnucash/scm/html-utilities.scm
> .
> ​
> 
> On 30 May 2018 at 07:07, Mike Evans  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 30 May 2018 10:00:56 +0100
>> Mike Evans  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 30 May 2018 00:12:00 -0500
>>> Alun Champion  wrote:
>>> 
 MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.
 
 If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left),
>> I
 would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as
>> 2.6.X. I
 keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and
>> this
 comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling. The
>> arrows
 to scroll up and down are particularly slow and with also losing the
 ability to scroll the tabs then this becomes very awkward.
 Also it seems the stylesheets aren't working - or at a minimum there
>> are no
 color changes between the stylesheets and the new colours are quite
>> 'prime'.
 Changing settings also seems to be very slow, with quite a lag between
 selecting an option and for the tick to appear or disappear.
 
 I guess I will need to figure out how to change the styles - colours
>> and
 fonts - default fonts for 2.6.X worked fine for me but the new fonts
>> are
 too spidery.
 
 But still a fantastic piece of software - thank you all for such great
>> work.
-A.
 
>>> 
>>> There's a theme here that helps a little.
>>> https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1179399/
>>> 
>> I went with Adwaita-Slim https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1181146/ after a
>> little testing.
>> 
>> If you want even narrower notebook tabs, edit
>> 
>> ~/.themes/Adwaita Slim/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
>> 
>> Search for "tabs" or "notebook"
>> 
>> Mike E
>> 
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Alun Champion]

Thank you all, this gave me enough information to track down and create
custom styling, having the tabs down the left side meant all the top and
bottom margin and padding was just wasted space.

Note: One minor issue I found when switching between 2.6.21 and 3.1 is that
any open reports seems to lose the start date, no idea why.

I’m on a Mac, was able to run the gtk3 inspector by running
GTK_DEBUG=interactive
/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash from the command line,
which shows the various css nodes (and you can experiment with the
styling). And created a ~/Library/Application\ Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css
for tight tabs:

notebook tab {
  min-height: 0px;
  margin-top: 0px;
  margin-bottom: 0px;
  padding-left: 0px;
  padding-right: 0px;
}

notebook tab box {
  padding-top: 2px;
  padding-bottom: 2px;
}

I was also able to change the colors in the reports by changing the
base_colors in
/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/share/gnucash/scm/html-utilities.scm
.
​

On 30 May 2018 at 07:07, Mike Evans  wrote:

> On Wed, 30 May 2018 10:00:56 +0100
> Mike Evans  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 30 May 2018 00:12:00 -0500
> > Alun Champion  wrote:
> >
> > > MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.
> > >
> > > If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left),
> I
> > > would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as
> 2.6.X. I
> > > keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and
> this
> > > comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling. The
> arrows
> > > to scroll up and down are particularly slow and with also losing the
> > > ability to scroll the tabs then this becomes very awkward.
> > > Also it seems the stylesheets aren't working - or at a minimum there
> are no
> > > color changes between the stylesheets and the new colours are quite
> 'prime'.
> > > Changing settings also seems to be very slow, with quite a lag between
> > > selecting an option and for the tick to appear or disappear.
> > >
> > > I guess I will need to figure out how to change the styles - colours
> and
> > > fonts - default fonts for 2.6.X worked fine for me but the new fonts
> are
> > > too spidery.
> > >
> > > But still a fantastic piece of software - thank you all for such great
> work.
> > > -A.
> > >
> >
> > There's a theme here that helps a little.
> > https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1179399/
> >
> I went with Adwaita-Slim https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1181146/ after a
> little testing.
>
> If you want even narrower notebook tabs, edit
>
> ~/.themes/Adwaita Slim/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
>
> Search for "tabs" or "notebook"
>
> Mike E
>
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Adrien Monteleone]

I believe the tab scrolling issue is something related to Gtk+3, not GnuCash. I 
know it’s been talked about somewhat, but I don’t recall if there is a bug 
filed on it or not. (this would be a Gtk bug, NOT a GnuCash bug. Gnome just 
moved their bug tracker to Github so you’ll need a separate account there to 
file one.)

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 30, 2018, at 2:43 AM, prl  wrote:
> 
> On 30/05/2018 15:12, Alun Champion wrote:
>> MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.
>> 
>> If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left), I
>> would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as 2.6.X. I
>> keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and this
>> comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling.
> I'd be interested in the ability the space that tabs take, too, for the same 
> reason.
> 
> Also, in 2.6.x, the mouse scroll wheel used to allow quick scrolling of the 
> tabs if the mouse was pointing in the tab area, and that ability has 
> disappeared in 3.1.
> 
> Closing down 3.1 is also rather clunky. In 2.6, quitting Gnucash would just 
> close the window and exit. In 3.1 it messes about closing each individual tab 
> before closing the window. What's the reason for that, and can it be avoided 
> easily?
> 
> Peter
> 
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[D via gnucash-user]

Long ago, I changed to having the tabs go down the left side of the window. 
That's kept me happy on the tab front for a good while!

David

On May 30, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Bruce Lang  wrote:

I love the new look - so much better and cleaner.

I have 8 tabs open at any one time and can see 6 without scrolling - 
that's the same as the number of tabs in my web browser - so what's the 
problem?

If the tabs are too big - how about abbreviating the name (e.g. by 
changing "Profit & Loss" to "P" significantly reduces the width of the 
tab).

Thanks,

*Bruce*



On 30/05/2018 5:13 PM, prl wrote:
> On 30/05/2018 15:12, Alun Champion wrote:
>> MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.
>>
>> If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left), I
>> would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as 
>> 2.6.X. I
>> keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and this
>> comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling.
> I'd be interested in the ability the space that tabs take, too, for 
> the same reason.
>
> Also, in 2.6.x, the mouse scroll wheel used to allow quick scrolling 
> of the tabs if the mouse was pointing in the tab area, and that 
> ability has disappeared in 3.1.
>
> Closing down 3.1 is also rather clunky. In 2.6, quitting Gnucash would 
> just close the window and exit. In 3.1 it messes about closing each 
> individual tab before closing the window. What's the reason for that, 
> and can it be avoided easily?
>
> Peter
>
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Mike Evans]

On Wed, 30 May 2018 10:00:56 +0100
Mike Evans  wrote:

> On Wed, 30 May 2018 00:12:00 -0500
> Alun Champion  wrote:
> 
> > MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.
> > 
> > If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left), I
> > would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as 2.6.X. I
> > keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and this
> > comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling. The arrows
> > to scroll up and down are particularly slow and with also losing the
> > ability to scroll the tabs then this becomes very awkward.
> > Also it seems the stylesheets aren't working - or at a minimum there are no
> > color changes between the stylesheets and the new colours are quite 'prime'.
> > Changing settings also seems to be very slow, with quite a lag between
> > selecting an option and for the tick to appear or disappear.
> > 
> > I guess I will need to figure out how to change the styles - colours and
> > fonts - default fonts for 2.6.X worked fine for me but the new fonts are
> > too spidery.
> > 
> > But still a fantastic piece of software - thank you all for such great work.
> > -A.
> >   
> 
> There's a theme here that helps a little.
> https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1179399/
> 
I went with Adwaita-Slim https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1181146/ after a little 
testing.

If you want even narrower notebook tabs, edit

~/.themes/Adwaita Slim/gtk-3.0/gtk.css

Search for "tabs" or "notebook"

Mike E
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Mike Evans]

On Wed, 30 May 2018 00:12:00 -0500
Alun Champion  wrote:

> MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.
> 
> If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left), I
> would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as 2.6.X. I
> keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and this
> comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling. The arrows
> to scroll up and down are particularly slow and with also losing the
> ability to scroll the tabs then this becomes very awkward.
> Also it seems the stylesheets aren't working - or at a minimum there are no
> color changes between the stylesheets and the new colours are quite 'prime'.
> Changing settings also seems to be very slow, with quite a lag between
> selecting an option and for the tick to appear or disappear.
> 
> I guess I will need to figure out how to change the styles - colours and
> fonts - default fonts for 2.6.X worked fine for me but the new fonts are
> too spidery.
> 
> But still a fantastic piece of software - thank you all for such great work.
> -A.
> 

There's a theme here that helps a little.
https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1179399/

I still find the row padding too much in the register views.  If anyone can 
suggest which css element I need to edit for these I'd be grateful.

Mike E
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Bruce Lang]

I love the new look - so much better and cleaner.

I have 8 tabs open at any one time and can see 6 without scrolling - 
that's the same as the number of tabs in my web browser - so what's the 
problem?


If the tabs are too big - how about abbreviating the name (e.g. by 
changing "Profit & Loss" to "P" significantly reduces the width of the 
tab).


Thanks,

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On 30/05/2018 5:13 PM, prl wrote:

On 30/05/2018 15:12, Alun Champion wrote:

MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.

If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left), I
would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as 
2.6.X. I

keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and this
comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling.
I'd be interested in the ability the space that tabs take, too, for 
the same reason.


Also, in 2.6.x, the mouse scroll wheel used to allow quick scrolling 
of the tabs if the mouse was pointing in the tab area, and that 
ability has disappeared in 3.1.


Closing down 3.1 is also rather clunky. In 2.6, quitting Gnucash would 
just close the window and exit. In 3.1 it messes about closing each 
individual tab before closing the window. What's the reason for that, 
and can it be avoided easily?


Peter

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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[prl]

On 30/05/2018 15:12, Alun Champion wrote:

MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.

If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left), I
would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as 2.6.X. I
keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and this
comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling.
I'd be interested in the ability the space that tabs take, too, for the 
same reason.


Also, in 2.6.x, the mouse scroll wheel used to allow quick scrolling of 
the tabs if the mouse was pointing in the tab area, and that ability has 
disappeared in 3.1.


Closing down 3.1 is also rather clunky. In 2.6, quitting Gnucash would 
just close the window and exit. In 3.1 it messes about closing each 
individual tab before closing the window. What's the reason for that, 
and can it be avoided easily?


Peter

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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Adrien Monteleone]

Stylesheets within GnuCash are for reports. They are very limited in 
customizability. (and it seems even some settings don’t work at all) Most 
advice I’ve seen on this front is to copy/paste or export reports to a 
spreadsheet or browser and work from there on making them ‘pretty’ as needed 
for 3rd party consumption.

CSS for the GnuCash application is something else entirely. And those 
stylesheets DO work from first hand experience. General UI colors and fonts are 
customizable once you figure out which classes affect which elements.

I’m not sure what’s up with the performance issues you are noting. I don’t 
experience them, but to be fair, my Mac specs are above average so I suppose 
mileage varies on that front.

> On May 30, 2018, at 12:12 AM, Alun Champion  wrote:
> 
> MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.
> 
> If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left), I 
> would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as 2.6.X. I 
> keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and this 
> comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling. The arrows 
> to scroll up and down are particularly slow and with also losing the ability 
> to scroll the tabs then this becomes very awkward.
> Also it seems the stylesheets aren't working - or at a minimum there are no 
> color changes between the stylesheets and the new colours are quite 'prime'.
> Changing settings also seems to be very slow, with quite a lag between 
> selecting an option and for the tick to appear or disappear.
> 
> I guess I will need to figure out how to change the styles - colours and 
> fonts - default fonts for 2.6.X worked fine for me but the new fonts are too 
> spidery.
> 
> But still a fantastic piece of software - thank you all for such great work.
> -A.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8 May 2018 at 00:19, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> You can tailor the colors and fonts to your liking using a custom CSS file. 
> I’m not sure what you mean by ‘layout’ but the new Gtk+3 version does have 
> more padding in many areas. I don’t think this is easily changeable, but it 
> might be possible.
> 
> I’m not sure what is causing your flickering issues though. (I’m using High 
> Sierra on a Mac Mini and don’t see any such issues) Those would probably be 
> worth filing bug reports over. However, there’s a good chance those are video 
> card related and might not be necessarily solvable via GnuCash code. Do you 
> use any other Gtk+3 apps on your Mac? (if so and those apps don’t flicker, 
> then that would help to show it is a GnuCash problem and not a Gtk problem)
> 
> Finally, note that there is a more recent version of 2.6, The latest out is 
> 2.6.21. It fixes several bugs from that 2.6.19-1 release. (The 2.6.20 had 
> some major issues precipitating the 2.6.21 ‘final’ 2.6 release)
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> > On May 7, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Scott Cason via gnucash-user 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I have been using Gnucash for a while now on a OSX laptop.  So far I have 
> > been satisfied with all its nuances.  However, this latest release I am 
> > more than unhappy with.  I don't know if my issues are the same between all 
> > OS' but as for my Mac I have gone back to v2.6.19-1.
> > What I do not like about the new 3.1 is:(1) there seems to be a lot of 
> > graphics issues at launch,,, page flickers and windows flash(2) basically, 
> > I do not like the way the color scheme works;  colored tabs almost makes it 
> > impossible to read the tab.  this is unlike prior versions where tab color 
> > did not interfere with tab titles(3) overall, I do not like the new 
> > layout/color/font... the look is totally different and I do not like it.(4) 
> > Maybe if there weren't issues 1 and 2, #3 would not be quite so noticeable 
> > and I might not have even noticed.
> > 
> > Thanks,Scott
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

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pj42uk wrote
> So, how do I create a custom CSS file for Windows 10.

For this and similar questions you can always search the wiki:

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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[John Ralls]

There’s no point in sending the crash report to Apple, but there is a point to 
sending it to us. Please file a bug report and attach it. As Adrien says, you 
can find it using /Applications/Utilities/Console under “User Diagnostics”. 
Control-click the report in the sidebar and select “show in finder” to see 
where it’s actually located.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On May 8, 2018, at 4:56 AM, Anthony Dardis  wrote:
> 
> I had similar experiences with 3.1 on OS X 10.13.4 on a 2015 MacBook Air. My 
> standard setup opens 4 accounts and one report, a version of Balance Sheet 
> that presents an overview. With 2.6.19, they all open at once; with 3.1-1, 
> they open in sequence (is there also a redraw in there somewhere?) which 
> gives an impression of "flashing".
> 
> My impression is that the colors/fonts/UI/etc are better in 3.1-1 (that is: 
> they look great!) but the system is working harder to make this happen and so 
> it "feels" less robust.
> 
> (One bit of UI that I missed: in 2.6.19 a "swipe left" mouse pad gesture in 
> the tab bar brings you to the left (or to the leftmost tab); 3.1 seems not to 
> have this any more?)
> 
> I had the "can't parse user file" issue with 3.0-1, and it went away with 
> 3.1-1.
> 
> I had a crash, though, which put me back to 2.6.19. I was reconciling each of 
> my high activity accounts at beginning of month last week; the first two went 
> smoothly; I opened the account to reconcile the third, clicked the Reconcile 
> button, and GnuCash crashed "completely", just disappeared and stopped. The 
> Apple crash dialog came up, but I wasn't sure if there was value in sending 
> anything to Apple. No data loss, but concerning.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tony
> 
> On 5/8/18 1:19 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> You can tailor the colors and fonts to your liking using a custom CSS file. 
>> I’m not sure what you mean by ‘layout’ but the new Gtk+3 version does have 
>> more padding in many areas. I don’t think this is easily changeable, but it 
>> might be possible.
>> 
>> I’m not sure what is causing your flickering issues though. (I’m using High 
>> Sierra on a Mac Mini and don’t see any such issues) Those would probably be 
>> worth filing bug reports over. However, there’s a good chance those are 
>> video card related and might not be necessarily solvable via GnuCash code. 
>> Do you use any other Gtk+3 apps on your Mac? (if so and those apps don’t 
>> flicker, then that would help to show it is a GnuCash problem and not a Gtk 
>> problem)
>> 
>> Finally, note that there is a more recent version of 2.6, The latest out is 
>> 2.6.21. It fixes several bugs from that 2.6.19-1 release. (The 2.6.20 had 
>> some major issues precipitating the 2.6.21 ‘final’ 2.6 release)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Scott Cason via gnucash-user 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been using Gnucash for a while now on a OSX laptop.  So far I have 
>>> been satisfied with all its nuances.  However, this latest release I am 
>>> more than unhappy with.  I don't know if my issues are the same between all 
>>> OS' but as for my Mac I have gone back to v2.6.19-1.
>>> What I do not like about the new 3.1 is:(1) there seems to be a lot of 
>>> graphics issues at launch,,, page flickers and windows flash(2) basically, 
>>> I do not like the way the color scheme works;  colored tabs almost makes it 
>>> impossible to read the tab.  this is unlike prior versions where tab color 
>>> did not interfere with tab titles(3) overall, I do not like the new 
>>> layout/color/font... the look is totally different and I do not like it.(4) 
>>> Maybe if there weren't issues 1 and 2, #3 would not be quite so noticeable 
>>> and I might not have even noticed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,Scott
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Adrien Monteleone]

Anthony,

I see what you mean about the tabs loading. I have the CoA, Receivable & 
Payables aging reports, and a Current Period Income Statement report on 
startup. Each load one by one after the main window appears. I just tested with 
my 2.6.21 copy and while the main window opened with everything already loaded, 
this happened because the reports were ‘built’ while the splash screen was 
still up. And it took much longer on 2.6 to build the reports than with 3.1. So 
3.1 is much faster to load my reports, and the main window appears sooner. 
While I wouldn’t call it a ‘flicker’ it does appear different to the user. I 
normally don’t notice it since I started using 3.1 because I rarely close the 
application so I rarely re-start it.

I haven’t noticed any sluggishness during regular use save for the context-menu 
in registers and invoices which sometimes seems to take a few seconds to ‘wake 
up’ and become active after appearing. I had a bug report on another issue with 
that menu so I suppose I need to file another to address that point.

That crash report would possibly have been useful in a bug report or help here 
on the list. It’s probably still available from Console.app.

I too had a crash right after using 3.0, but it turned out to be a mouse event 
that whacked the application and wasn’t a repeatable event. It ran fine 
afterwards.

Perhaps it wouldn’t hurt to start a thread about your crash and attach your 
crash report as a .txt file.

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 8, 2018, at 6:56 AM, Anthony Dardis  wrote:
> 
> I had similar experiences with 3.1 on OS X 10.13.4 on a 2015 MacBook Air. My 
> standard setup opens 4 accounts and one report, a version of Balance Sheet 
> that presents an overview. With 2.6.19, they all open at once; with 3.1-1, 
> they open in sequence (is there also a redraw in there somewhere?) which 
> gives an impression of "flashing".
> 
> My impression is that the colors/fonts/UI/etc are better in 3.1-1 (that is: 
> they look great!) but the system is working harder to make this happen and so 
> it "feels" less robust.
> 
> (One bit of UI that I missed: in 2.6.19 a "swipe left" mouse pad gesture in 
> the tab bar brings you to the left (or to the leftmost tab); 3.1 seems not to 
> have this any more?)
> 
> I had the "can't parse user file" issue with 3.0-1, and it went away with 
> 3.1-1.
> 
> I had a crash, though, which put me back to 2.6.19. I was reconciling each of 
> my high activity accounts at beginning of month last week; the first two went 
> smoothly; I opened the account to reconcile the third, clicked the Reconcile 
> button, and GnuCash crashed "completely", just disappeared and stopped. The 
> Apple crash dialog came up, but I wasn't sure if there was value in sending 
> anything to Apple. No data loss, but concerning.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tony
> 
> On 5/8/18 1:19 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> You can tailor the colors and fonts to your liking using a custom CSS file. 
>> I’m not sure what you mean by ‘layout’ but the new Gtk+3 version does have 
>> more padding in many areas. I don’t think this is easily changeable, but it 
>> might be possible.
>> 
>> I’m not sure what is causing your flickering issues though. (I’m using High 
>> Sierra on a Mac Mini and don’t see any such issues) Those would probably be 
>> worth filing bug reports over. However, there’s a good chance those are 
>> video card related and might not be necessarily solvable via GnuCash code. 
>> Do you use any other Gtk+3 apps on your Mac? (if so and those apps don’t 
>> flicker, then that would help to show it is a GnuCash problem and not a Gtk 
>> problem)
>> 
>> Finally, note that there is a more recent version of 2.6, The latest out is 
>> 2.6.21. It fixes several bugs from that 2.6.19-1 release. (The 2.6.20 had 
>> some major issues precipitating the 2.6.21 ‘final’ 2.6 release)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Scott Cason via gnucash-user 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been using Gnucash for a while now on a OSX laptop.  So far I have 
>>> been satisfied with all its nuances.  However, this latest release I am 
>>> more than unhappy with.  I don't know if my issues are the same between all 
>>> OS' but as for my Mac I have gone back to v2.6.19-1.
>>> What I do not like about the new 3.1 is:(1) there seems to be a lot of 
>>> graphics issues at launch,,, page flickers and windows flash(2) basically, 
>>> I do not like the way the color scheme works;  colored tabs almost makes it 
>>> impossible to read the tab.  this is unlike prior versions where tab color 
>>> did not interfere with tab titles(3) overall, I do not like the new 
>>> layout/color/font... the look is totally different and I do not like it.(4) 
>>> Maybe if there weren't issues 1 and 2, #3 would not be quite so noticeable 
>>> and I might not have even noticed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,Scott
>>> ___
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Anthony Dardis]

I had similar experiences with 3.1 on OS X 10.13.4 on a 2015 MacBook 
Air. My standard setup opens 4 accounts and one report, a version of 
Balance Sheet that presents an overview. With 2.6.19, they all open at 
once; with 3.1-1, they open in sequence (is there also a redraw in there 
somewhere?) which gives an impression of "flashing".


My impression is that the colors/fonts/UI/etc are better in 3.1-1 (that 
is: they look great!) but the system is working harder to make this 
happen and so it "feels" less robust.


(One bit of UI that I missed: in 2.6.19 a "swipe left" mouse pad gesture 
in the tab bar brings you to the left (or to the leftmost tab); 3.1 
seems not to have this any more?)


I had the "can't parse user file" issue with 3.0-1, and it went away 
with 3.1-1.


I had a crash, though, which put me back to 2.6.19. I was reconciling 
each of my high activity accounts at beginning of month last week; the 
first two went smoothly; I opened the account to reconcile the third, 
clicked the Reconcile button, and GnuCash crashed "completely", just 
disappeared and stopped. The Apple crash dialog came up, but I wasn't 
sure if there was value in sending anything to Apple. No data loss, but 
concerning.


Cheers,

Tony

On 5/8/18 1:19 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

You can tailor the colors and fonts to your liking using a custom CSS file. I’m 
not sure what you mean by ‘layout’ but the new Gtk+3 version does have more 
padding in many areas. I don’t think this is easily changeable, but it might be 
possible.

I’m not sure what is causing your flickering issues though. (I’m using High 
Sierra on a Mac Mini and don’t see any such issues) Those would probably be 
worth filing bug reports over. However, there’s a good chance those are video 
card related and might not be necessarily solvable via GnuCash code. Do you use 
any other Gtk+3 apps on your Mac? (if so and those apps don’t flicker, then 
that would help to show it is a GnuCash problem and not a Gtk problem)

Finally, note that there is a more recent version of 2.6, The latest out is 
2.6.21. It fixes several bugs from that 2.6.19-1 release. (The 2.6.20 had some 
major issues precipitating the 2.6.21 ‘final’ 2.6 release)

Regards,
Adrien


On May 7, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Scott Cason via gnucash-user 
 wrote:

I have been using Gnucash for a while now on a OSX laptop.  So far I have been 
satisfied with all its nuances.  However, this latest release I am more than 
unhappy with.  I don't know if my issues are the same between all OS' but as 
for my Mac I have gone back to v2.6.19-1.
What I do not like about the new 3.1 is:(1) there seems to be a lot of graphics 
issues at launch,,, page flickers and windows flash(2) basically, I do not like 
the way the color scheme works;  colored tabs almost makes it impossible to 
read the tab.  this is unlike prior versions where tab color did not interfere 
with tab titles(3) overall, I do not like the new layout/color/font... the look 
is totally different and I do not like it.(4) Maybe if there weren't issues 1 
and 2, #3 would not be quite so noticeable and I might not have even noticed.

Thanks,Scott
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Peter Jackson]

So, how do I create a custom CSS file for Windows 10.

Regards
Peter


On 8 May 2018 at 06:19, Adrien Monteleone 
wrote:

> You can tailor the colors and fonts to your liking using a custom CSS
> file. I’m not sure what you mean by ‘layout’ but the new Gtk+3 version does
> have more padding in many areas. I don’t think this is easily changeable,
> but it might be possible.
>
> I’m not sure what is causing your flickering issues though. (I’m using
> High Sierra on a Mac Mini and don’t see any such issues) Those would
> probably be worth filing bug reports over. However, there’s a good chance
> those are video card related and might not be necessarily solvable via
> GnuCash code. Do you use any other Gtk+3 apps on your Mac? (if so and those
> apps don’t flicker, then that would help to show it is a GnuCash problem
> and not a Gtk problem)
>
> Finally, note that there is a more recent version of 2.6, The latest out
> is 2.6.21. It fixes several bugs from that 2.6.19-1 release. (The 2.6.20
> had some major issues precipitating the 2.6.21 ‘final’ 2.6 release)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On May 7, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Scott Cason via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> >
> > I have been using Gnucash for a while now on a OSX laptop.  So far I
> have been satisfied with all its nuances.  However, this latest release I
> am more than unhappy with.  I don't know if my issues are the same between
> all OS' but as for my Mac I have gone back to v2.6.19-1.
> > What I do not like about the new 3.1 is:(1) there seems to be a lot of
> graphics issues at launch,,, page flickers and windows flash(2) basically,
> I do not like the way the color scheme works;  colored tabs almost makes it
> impossible to read the tab.  this is unlike prior versions where tab color
> did not interfere with tab titles(3) overall, I do not like the new
> layout/color/font... the look is totally different and I do not like it.(4)
> Maybe if there weren't issues 1 and 2, #3 would not be quite so noticeable
> and I might not have even noticed.
> >
> > Thanks,Scott
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Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Adrien Monteleone]

You can tailor the colors and fonts to your liking using a custom CSS file. I’m 
not sure what you mean by ‘layout’ but the new Gtk+3 version does have more 
padding in many areas. I don’t think this is easily changeable, but it might be 
possible.

I’m not sure what is causing your flickering issues though. (I’m using High 
Sierra on a Mac Mini and don’t see any such issues) Those would probably be 
worth filing bug reports over. However, there’s a good chance those are video 
card related and might not be necessarily solvable via GnuCash code. Do you use 
any other Gtk+3 apps on your Mac? (if so and those apps don’t flicker, then 
that would help to show it is a GnuCash problem and not a Gtk problem)

Finally, note that there is a more recent version of 2.6, The latest out is 
2.6.21. It fixes several bugs from that 2.6.19-1 release. (The 2.6.20 had some 
major issues precipitating the 2.6.21 ‘final’ 2.6 release)

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 7, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Scott Cason via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been using Gnucash for a while now on a OSX laptop.  So far I have 
> been satisfied with all its nuances.  However, this latest release I am more 
> than unhappy with.  I don't know if my issues are the same between all OS' 
> but as for my Mac I have gone back to v2.6.19-1.
> What I do not like about the new 3.1 is:(1) there seems to be a lot of 
> graphics issues at launch,,, page flickers and windows flash(2) basically, I 
> do not like the way the color scheme works;  colored tabs almost makes it 
> impossible to read the tab.  this is unlike prior versions where tab color 
> did not interfere with tab titles(3) overall, I do not like the new 
> layout/color/font... the look is totally different and I do not like it.(4) 
> Maybe if there weren't issues 1 and 2, #3 would not be quite so noticeable 
> and I might not have even noticed.
> 
> Thanks,Scott
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[GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Scott Cason via gnucash-user]

I have been using Gnucash for a while now on a OSX laptop.  So far I have been 
satisfied with all its nuances.  However, this latest release I am more than 
unhappy with.  I don't know if my issues are the same between all OS' but as 
for my Mac I have gone back to v2.6.19-1.
What I do not like about the new 3.1 is:(1) there seems to be a lot of graphics 
issues at launch,,, page flickers and windows flash(2) basically, I do not like 
the way the color scheme works;  colored tabs almost makes it impossible to 
read the tab.  this is unlike prior versions where tab color did not interfere 
with tab titles(3) overall, I do not like the new layout/color/font... the look 
is totally different and I do not like it.(4) Maybe if there weren't issues 1 
and 2, #3 would not be quite so noticeable and I might not have even noticed.

Thanks,Scott
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