Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

Sorry, I apparently only replied to Ken in my initial response instead of to 
"Reply All".

Thank you all!  I didn't think it was the setting "View>Filter By>{“Other” 
tab]>Show unused accounts" or "View->Filter By..->Other->Show Zero Total 
Accounts" as when it didn't seem to add the account, I tried again.  On the 
second attempt, I did not get the error message that the account already 
existed.  I did get that message after reinstalling the software, so you were 
right that may have been prt of the issue.  I notice that even the subaccount 
indicator does not show up when the subaccounts are zero or not used.  I 
appreciate all the suggestions and happy to be running again.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Ken Farley 
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2023 11:17 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

I've done this very thing to myself in the past. Turns out I wanted to
stop seeing a bunch of zero value accounts and didn't make them
"hidden", but instead unclicked the


View->Filter By..->Other->Show Zero Total Accounts checkbox.


Since new accounts have a zero balance, voila (or maybe un-voila?) they
disappear as soon as they're created. What fun.
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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

Thank you all!  I didn't think it was the setting "View>Filter By>{“Other” 
tab]>Show unused accounts" or "View->Filter By..->Other->Show Zero Total 
Accounts" as when it didn't seem to add the account, I tried again.  On the 
second attempt, I did not get the error message that the account already 
existed.  I did get that message after reinstalling the software, so you were 
right that may have been prt of the issue.  I notice that even the subaccount 
indicator does not show up when the subaccounts are zero or not used.  I 
appreciate all the suggestions and happy to be running again.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Ken Farley 
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2023 11:17 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

I've done this very thing to myself in the past. Turns out I wanted to
stop seeing a bunch of zero value accounts and didn't make them
"hidden", but instead unclicked the


View->Filter By..->Other->Show Zero Total Accounts checkbox.


Since new accounts have a zero balance, voila (or maybe un-voila?) they
disappear as soon as they're created. What fun.
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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Ken Farley]

I've done this very thing to myself in the past. Turns out I wanted to 
stop seeing a bunch of zero value accounts and didn't make them 
"hidden", but instead unclicked the



View->Filter By..->Other->Show Zero Total Accounts checkbox.


Since new accounts have a zero balance, voila (or maybe un-voila?) they 
disappear as soon as they're created. What fun.

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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Flyeta via gnucash-user]

Might this have been the setting View>Filter By>{“Other” tab]>Show unused 
accounts? If you have that checked and create a new account, it won’t show in 
the Accounts list because it is, as yet, unused.

> On Feb 4, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> Thank you.  I tried adding a "test" account in several locations, as a 
> subaccount under Bank Cds, as a subaccount under assets, etc.  nothing 
> worked.  After reinstalling and using a different ?.gnucash backup, I did 
> get it to work.  What the cause wasI just don't know.
> 
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> Gyle McCollam
> 
> Gyle McCollam
> 
> gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email
> 
> 
> From: gnucash-user  on 
> behalf of Michael or Penny Novack 
> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 3:51 PM
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts
> 
> On 2/4/2023 2:27 PM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
>>   1.  It brings up the dialogue to set up the new account.  It lets me enter 
>> all the information and when I click on OK the dialogue goes away and no new 
>> account is set up.
>>   2.  No I don't have a large number of account, but I thought of that as 
>> well.
>>   3.  We think alike as I tried entering a new transaction and that work 
>> fine.
>>   4.  I also tried rebooting my PC, but that didn't work either.
>> 
> All the information? Including what the parent of this new account is to
> be (WHERE it is to appear in the Chart of Accounts)
> 
> Just grasping at straws as to what might possibly have gone wrong
> 
> 
> Michael D Novack
> 
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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

Michael,
Thank you.  I tried adding a "test" account in several locations, as a 
subaccount under Bank Cds, as a subaccount under assets, etc.  nothing worked.  
After reinstalling and using a different ?.gnucash backup, I did get it to 
work.  What the cause wasI just don't know.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Michael or Penny Novack 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 3:51 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

On 2/4/2023 2:27 PM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
>1.  It brings up the dialogue to set up the new account.  It lets me enter 
> all the information and when I click on OK the dialogue goes away and no new 
> account is set up.
>2.  No I don't have a large number of account, but I thought of that as 
> well.
>3.  We think alike as I tried entering a new transaction and that work 
> fine.
>4.  I also tried rebooting my PC, but that didn't work either.
>
All the information? Including what the parent of this new account is to
be (WHERE it is to appear in the Chart of Accounts)

Just grasping at straws as to what might possibly have gone wrong


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 2/4/2023 2:27 PM, Gyle McCollam wrote:

   1.  It brings up the dialogue to set up the new account.  It lets me enter 
all the information and when I click on OK the dialogue goes away and no new 
account is set up.
   2.  No I don't have a large number of account, but I thought of that as well.
   3.  We think alike as I tried entering a new transaction and that work fine.
   4.  I also tried rebooting my PC, but that didn't work either.

All the information? Including what the parent of this new account is to 
be (WHERE it is to appear in the Chart of Accounts)


Just grasping at straws as to what might possibly have gone wrong


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

Reinstalled Gnucash plus I used another version of the file (technically a 
backup file) that I had deleted earlier because I screwed up some entries and 
was trying to start over with an older backup.  Seems to be working correctly 
now.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Stan Brown (using GC 2.6.19) 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 2:34 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

On 2023-02-04 11:31, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> I tried "check and repair".  It ran for a while and then Windows said Gnucash 
> was not responding.

That doesn't necessarily mean that the program has stopped working. Use
Task Manager (Ctrl+Shift+Esc) to see whether it is still using CPU and
disk resources.

--
Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Ken Pyzik]

Based upon your answers, here is what I would suggest:


  1.  When you go to add a new account - give it a nice bright unique color.  
Now when the new account comes up - it will be easily distinguishable.  If you 
still don't see the new account - do item 2.
  2.  Download the latest version of the program and overwrite the version on 
your machine.  Once it is completed, now try adding a new account.  It is 
possible that the version you have on your machine may have somehow been 
corrupted and getting the latest (or a new version) can alleviate the issue.

Ken


From: Gyle McCollam 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 11:28 AM
To: Ken Pyzik ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Adding new accounts


  1.  It brings up the dialogue to set up the new account.  It lets me enter 
all the information and when I click on OK the dialogue goes away and no new 
account is set up.
  2.  No I don't have a large number of account, but I thought of that as well.
  3.  We think alike as I tried entering a new transaction and that work fine.
  4.  I also tried rebooting my PC, but that didn't work either.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: Ken Pyzik mailto:py...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 2:13 PM
To: Gyle McCollam mailto:gmccol...@live.com>>; 
gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
Subject: RE: Adding new accounts

Without having any additional information, I going to make some assumptions.

1.  I am going to assume that you have already tried the Actions>>New Accounts 
menu item and it does not work
2.  That you have tried any other methods to add new accounts and they have not 
worked either

Based upon that -- I them would ask a few questions:

1. What happens when you click on the menu -- Actions - New account menu item?  
Does the program just sit there -- does it give an error?  This would be good 
information to know to help you diagnose the issue.

2.  Is there some theoretical limit on the number of accounts you can have -- 
and have you reached that limit?  My gut tells me that if there is some limit 
-- it is probably very high and therefore you probably have not reached it -- 
but this is just a guess on my part.

3.  Finally, that last thing I would ask is -- is your file locked or in some 
sort of "read-only" mode where you cannot edit it?  If this is true, you would 
not be able to add any transactions either -- so if you can add transactions to 
your existing accounts -- this is probably not the solution either -- but it is 
worth a try to ask.

Look these items over -- and let us know any additional information to help you 
diagnose the issue.

Ken



-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user 
mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+pyz01=outlook@gnucash.org>>
 On Behalf Of Gyle McCollam
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 11:02 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Adding new accounts

I want to change my account structure.  I currently have an annuity, but I want 
to set up subaccounts for the original opening balance and the deferred income. 
 Gnucash will not let me set up subaccounts, in fact, it will not let me set up 
ANY new accounts!  I have tried closing and reopening Gnucash, but that doesn't 
help.  Any sugestions?


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email
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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Stan Brown (using GC 2.6.19)]

On 2023-02-04 11:31, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> I tried "check and repair".  It ran for a while and then Windows said Gnucash 
> was not responding.

That doesn't necessarily mean that the program has stopped working. Use
Task Manager (Ctrl+Shift+Esc) to see whether it is still using CPU and
disk resources.

-- 
Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

No, I have not set up the directory as read only.

I tried "check and repair".  It ran for a while and then Windows said Gnucash 
was not responding.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: Fred Tydeman 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 2:18 PM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

Have you set the file or directory Read Only?

On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 11:02 AM Gyle McCollam 
mailto:gmccol...@live.com>> wrote:
I want to change my account structure.  I currently have an annuity, but I want 
to set up subaccounts for the original opening balance and the deferred income. 
 Gnucash will not let me set up subaccounts, in fact, it will not let me set up 
ANY new accounts!  I have tried closing and reopening Gnucash, but that doesn't 
help.  Any sugestions?


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@live.com><mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>>
   email
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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

  1.  It brings up the dialogue to set up the new account.  It lets me enter 
all the information and when I click on OK the dialogue goes away and no new 
account is set up.
  2.  No I don't have a large number of account, but I thought of that as well.
  3.  We think alike as I tried entering a new transaction and that work fine.
  4.  I also tried rebooting my PC, but that didn't work either.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: Ken Pyzik 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 2:13 PM
To: Gyle McCollam ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: RE: Adding new accounts

Without having any additional information, I going to make some assumptions.

1.  I am going to assume that you have already tried the Actions>>New Accounts 
menu item and it does not work
2.  That you have tried any other methods to add new accounts and they have not 
worked either

Based upon that -- I them would ask a few questions:

1. What happens when you click on the menu -- Actions - New account menu item?  
Does the program just sit there -- does it give an error?  This would be good 
information to know to help you diagnose the issue.

2.  Is there some theoretical limit on the number of accounts you can have -- 
and have you reached that limit?  My gut tells me that if there is some limit 
-- it is probably very high and therefore you probably have not reached it -- 
but this is just a guess on my part.

3.  Finally, that last thing I would ask is -- is your file locked or in some 
sort of "read-only" mode where you cannot edit it?  If this is true, you would 
not be able to add any transactions either -- so if you can add transactions to 
your existing accounts -- this is probably not the solution either -- but it is 
worth a try to ask.

Look these items over -- and let us know any additional information to help you 
diagnose the issue.

Ken



-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On 
Behalf Of Gyle McCollam
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 11:02 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Adding new accounts

I want to change my account structure.  I currently have an annuity, but I want 
to set up subaccounts for the original opening balance and the deferred income. 
 Gnucash will not let me set up subaccounts, in fact, it will not let me set up 
ANY new accounts!  I have tried closing and reopening Gnucash, but that doesn't 
help.  Any sugestions?


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email
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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Fred Tydeman]

Have you set the file or directory Read Only?

On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 11:02 AM Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> I want to change my account structure.  I currently have an annuity, but I
> want to set up subaccounts for the original opening balance and the
> deferred income.  Gnucash will not let me set up subaccounts, in fact, it
> will not let me set up ANY new accounts!  I have tried closing and
> reopening Gnucash, but that doesn't help.  Any sugestions?
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> gmccol...@live.com   email
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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Ken Pyzik]

Without having any additional information, I going to make some assumptions.

1.  I am going to assume that you have already tried the Actions>>New Accounts 
menu item and it does not work
2.  That you have tried any other methods to add new accounts and they have not 
worked either

Based upon that -- I them would ask a few questions:

1. What happens when you click on the menu -- Actions - New account menu item?  
Does the program just sit there -- does it give an error?  This would be good 
information to know to help you diagnose the issue. 

2.  Is there some theoretical limit on the number of accounts you can have -- 
and have you reached that limit?  My gut tells me that if there is some limit 
-- it is probably very high and therefore you probably have not reached it -- 
but this is just a guess on my part.  

3.  Finally, that last thing I would ask is -- is your file locked or in some 
sort of "read-only" mode where you cannot edit it?  If this is true, you would 
not be able to add any transactions either -- so if you can add transactions to 
your existing accounts -- this is probably not the solution either -- but it is 
worth a try to ask.

Look these items over -- and let us know any additional information to help you 
diagnose the issue. 

Ken 



-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On 
Behalf Of Gyle McCollam
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 11:02 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Adding new accounts

I want to change my account structure.  I currently have an annuity, but I want 
to set up subaccounts for the original opening balance and the deferred income. 
 Gnucash will not let me set up subaccounts, in fact, it will not let me set up 
ANY new accounts!  I have tried closing and reopening Gnucash, but that doesn't 
help.  Any sugestions?


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email
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