Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
The preference was added by Christian back in the 2.6 days. I'm not sure of the end goal of this feature but I believe it was indeed mostly meant to persistently add a few convenience buttons on the tool bar. I'm sure it doesn't manage the availability of the AR/AP accounts and it equally won't show or hide the Business releated menu options. That may be an enhancement of its own at some point. Regards, Geert Op dinsdag 2 april 2019 09:03:59 CEST schreef Derek Atkins: > If this preference is added, it should also remove the A/R and A/P Account > type choices! > > -derek > > On Mon, April 1, 2019 11:21 pm, David Carlson wrote: > > Back in 2014 I used to think that going to Edit > Preferences > Business > > and checking Enable Extra Buttons was about enabling business features, > > but > > I was told then that it is only about adding some un-named buttons on some > > menus that were never documented. I agree that there should be a feature > > to turn off business features for those of us that don't use them, because > > sometimes they cause grief if accidentally or ignorantly activated. > > > > David Carlson > > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Adrien Monteleone < > > > > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > >> Thanks David, > >> > >> I was looking for that the other day and somehow glanced over it. > >> Indeed, > >> it is still there in 3.4. (about to install 3.5 shortly) I suppose, > >> then, > >> since preferences are user rather than book based that’s why the buttons > >> were already there. I didn’t try to start GC from a fresh user > >> perspective. > >> I’d have to try an old copy of 2.6, but I seem to recall this being > >> labeled > >> as ‘enable business features’ (which also added the special accounts and > >> added the Business menu) not just ‘enable extra buttons’, but my memory > >> could be faulty. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Adrien > >> > >> > On Apr 1, 2019, at 7:33 PM, David Carlson > >> > >> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > So far none of you have mentioned going to Edit > Preferences > > >> > >> Business > >> and checking Enable Extra Buttons. Back in the Release 2.6.xx days that > >> was necessary to even see the buttons to create invoices or whatever > >> that I > >> have never looked for because I was not using them. > >> > >> > David Carlson > >> > > >> > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 5:39 PM Adrien Monteleone < > >> > >> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > >> > > On Mar 31, 2019, at 3:35 AM, David T. via gnucash-user < > >> > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > >> > > Oh. Let me go to nabble to figure out that you're replying to my > >> > >> post... now, having closed all the spammy windows for super resume... > >> > >> > Or just use e-mail instead of Nabble? (or I’m sure something like > >> > >> uBlock > >> Origin could zap those windows before they come into existence) > >> > >> > > Having the new account assistant create a specific set of accounts > >> > >> IN > >> NO WAY is "enabling business features." It's just a bunch of accounts. > >> The > >> features are always "enabled." We might as well speak of "enabling" > >> double > >> entry features in Gnucash when we open a register in transaction view. > >> > >> > > It is convenient, to be sure, to have these accounts created for me, > >> > >> but this is in no way something in preferences, as was implied in the > >> message to which I was responding. > >> > >> > > There is NO special setting. To quote Monty Python, there is NO > >> > >> severed head beneath the bed. > >> > >> > > David T. > >> > > >> > I just opened a new file, chose the default ‘common accounts’ which > >> > >> did > >> not include A/R and A/P and sure enough, the “Business” menu is visible > >> as > >> was the “New Invoice” button. (I didn’t go through the trouble of > >> creating > >> an invoice or bill and seeing what would happen) > >> > >> > This was not always the case, certainly not at some point in the 2.6 > >> > >> series. I distinctly remember having to ‘enable business features’ to > >> both > >> get the Business menu as well as making the New Invoice button visible. > >> I > >> think doing so also created the special A/R and A/P accounts in my tree. > >> > >> > Perhaps the business features which were originally an add-on module > >> > >> were finally integrated into the main program at some point. > >> > >> > Regards, > >> > Adrien > >> > ___ > >> > >> ___ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >> - > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > -- > > David Carlson > > ___ >
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
If this preference is added, it should also remove the A/R and A/P Account type choices! -derek On Mon, April 1, 2019 11:21 pm, David Carlson wrote: > Back in 2014 I used to think that going to Edit > Preferences > Business > and checking Enable Extra Buttons was about enabling business features, > but > I was told then that it is only about adding some un-named buttons on some > menus that were never documented. I agree that there should be a feature > to turn off business features for those of us that don't use them, because > sometimes they cause grief if accidentally or ignorantly activated. > > David Carlson > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Adrien Monteleone < > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > >> Thanks David, >> >> I was looking for that the other day and somehow glanced over it. >> Indeed, >> it is still there in 3.4. (about to install 3.5 shortly) I suppose, >> then, >> since preferences are user rather than book based that’s why the buttons >> were already there. I didn’t try to start GC from a fresh user >> perspective. >> I’d have to try an old copy of 2.6, but I seem to recall this being >> labeled >> as ‘enable business features’ (which also added the special accounts and >> added the Business menu) not just ‘enable extra buttons’, but my memory >> could be faulty. >> >> Regards, >> Adrien >> >> > On Apr 1, 2019, at 7:33 PM, David Carlson >> >> wrote: >> > >> > So far none of you have mentioned going to Edit > Preferences > >> Business >> and checking Enable Extra Buttons. Back in the Release 2.6.xx days that >> was necessary to even see the buttons to create invoices or whatever >> that I >> have never looked for because I was not using them. >> > >> > David Carlson >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 5:39 PM Adrien Monteleone < >> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: >> > >> > > On Mar 31, 2019, at 3:35 AM, David T. via gnucash-user < >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: >> > > >> > > Oh. Let me go to nabble to figure out that you're replying to my >> post... now, having closed all the spammy windows for super resume... >> > >> > Or just use e-mail instead of Nabble? (or I’m sure something like >> uBlock >> Origin could zap those windows before they come into existence) >> > >> > > Having the new account assistant create a specific set of accounts >> IN >> NO WAY is "enabling business features." It's just a bunch of accounts. >> The >> features are always "enabled." We might as well speak of "enabling" >> double >> entry features in Gnucash when we open a register in transaction view. >> > > It is convenient, to be sure, to have these accounts created for me, >> but this is in no way something in preferences, as was implied in the >> message to which I was responding. >> > > There is NO special setting. To quote Monty Python, there is NO >> severed head beneath the bed. >> > > David T. >> > >> > I just opened a new file, chose the default ‘common accounts’ which >> did >> not include A/R and A/P and sure enough, the “Business” menu is visible >> as >> was the “New Invoice” button. (I didn’t go through the trouble of >> creating >> an invoice or bill and seeing what would happen) >> > >> > This was not always the case, certainly not at some point in the 2.6 >> series. I distinctly remember having to ‘enable business features’ to >> both >> get the Business menu as well as making the New Invoice button visible. >> I >> think doing so also created the special A/R and A/P accounts in my tree. >> > >> > Perhaps the business features which were originally an add-on module >> were finally integrated into the main program at some point. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Adrien >> > ___ >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > > -- > David Carlson > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
I just played with toggling that preference back and forth and as I do so, the ’New Invoice’ button appears and disappears accordingly. It seems this is the only button affected unless there is a special toolbar somewhere I’m not triggering. (when viewing a bill/invoice there are 2 ’New Invoice’ buttons, one is the generic version, the other is tied to the same ‘current owner’ of the viewed bill/invoice - that one doesn’t toggle.) The Business menu remains visible in all cases. Certainly, if one needs to manually manage A/R or A/P or not even use them, those features would be nice to hide. I don’t think there is any danger posed however by their visibility or existence unless one tries to both use those features *and* manually make transactions in those special accounts. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 1, 2019, at 10:21 PM, David Carlson > wrote: > > Back in 2014 I used to think that going to Edit > Preferences > Business and > checking Enable Extra Buttons was about enabling business features, but I was > told then that it is only about adding some un-named buttons on some menus > that were never documented. I agree that there should be a feature to turn > off business features for those of us that don't use them, because sometimes > they cause grief if accidentally or ignorantly activated. > > David Carlson > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > Thanks David, > > I was looking for that the other day and somehow glanced over it. Indeed, it > is still there in 3.4. (about to install 3.5 shortly) I suppose, then, since > preferences are user rather than book based that’s why the buttons were > already there. I didn’t try to start GC from a fresh user perspective. I’d > have to try an old copy of 2.6, but I seem to recall this being labeled as > ‘enable business features’ (which also added the special accounts and added > the Business menu) not just ‘enable extra buttons’, but my memory could be > faulty. > > Regards, > Adrien > > > On Apr 1, 2019, at 7:33 PM, David Carlson > > wrote: > > > > So far none of you have mentioned going to Edit > Preferences > Business > > and checking Enable Extra Buttons. Back in the Release 2.6.xx days that > > was necessary to even see the buttons to create invoices or whatever that I > > have never looked for because I was not using them. > > > > David Carlson > > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 5:39 PM Adrien Monteleone > > wrote: > > > > > On Mar 31, 2019, at 3:35 AM, David T. via gnucash-user > > > wrote: > > > > > > Oh. Let me go to nabble to figure out that you're replying to my post... > > > now, having closed all the spammy windows for super resume... > > > > Or just use e-mail instead of Nabble? (or I’m sure something like uBlock > > Origin could zap those windows before they come into existence) > > > > > Having the new account assistant create a specific set of accounts IN NO > > > WAY is "enabling business features." It's just a bunch of accounts. The > > > features are always "enabled." We might as well speak of "enabling" > > > double entry features in Gnucash when we open a register in transaction > > > view. > > > It is convenient, to be sure, to have these accounts created for me, but > > > this is in no way something in preferences, as was implied in the message > > > to which I was responding. > > > There is NO special setting. To quote Monty Python, there is NO severed > > > head beneath the bed. > > > David T. > > > > I just opened a new file, chose the default ‘common accounts’ which did not > > include A/R and A/P and sure enough, the “Business” menu is visible as was > > the “New Invoice” button. (I didn’t go through the trouble of creating an > > invoice or bill and seeing what would happen) > > > > This was not always the case, certainly not at some point in the 2.6 > > series. I distinctly remember having to ‘enable business features’ to both > > get the Business menu as well as making the New Invoice button visible. I > > think doing so also created the special A/R and A/P accounts in my tree. > > > > Perhaps the business features which were originally an add-on module were > > finally integrated into the main program at some point. > > > > Regards, > > Adrien > > ___ > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > -- > David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
Back in 2014 I used to think that going to Edit > Preferences > Business and checking Enable Extra Buttons was about enabling business features, but I was told then that it is only about adding some un-named buttons on some menus that were never documented. I agree that there should be a feature to turn off business features for those of us that don't use them, because sometimes they cause grief if accidentally or ignorantly activated. David Carlson On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > Thanks David, > > I was looking for that the other day and somehow glanced over it. Indeed, > it is still there in 3.4. (about to install 3.5 shortly) I suppose, then, > since preferences are user rather than book based that’s why the buttons > were already there. I didn’t try to start GC from a fresh user perspective. > I’d have to try an old copy of 2.6, but I seem to recall this being labeled > as ‘enable business features’ (which also added the special accounts and > added the Business menu) not just ‘enable extra buttons’, but my memory > could be faulty. > > Regards, > Adrien > > > On Apr 1, 2019, at 7:33 PM, David Carlson > wrote: > > > > So far none of you have mentioned going to Edit > Preferences > Business > and checking Enable Extra Buttons. Back in the Release 2.6.xx days that > was necessary to even see the buttons to create invoices or whatever that I > have never looked for because I was not using them. > > > > David Carlson > > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 5:39 PM Adrien Monteleone < > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 31, 2019, at 3:35 AM, David T. via gnucash-user < > gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > > > > > > Oh. Let me go to nabble to figure out that you're replying to my > post... now, having closed all the spammy windows for super resume... > > > > Or just use e-mail instead of Nabble? (or I’m sure something like uBlock > Origin could zap those windows before they come into existence) > > > > > Having the new account assistant create a specific set of accounts IN > NO WAY is "enabling business features." It's just a bunch of accounts. The > features are always "enabled." We might as well speak of "enabling" double > entry features in Gnucash when we open a register in transaction view. > > > It is convenient, to be sure, to have these accounts created for me, > but this is in no way something in preferences, as was implied in the > message to which I was responding. > > > There is NO special setting. To quote Monty Python, there is NO > severed head beneath the bed. > > > David T. > > > > I just opened a new file, chose the default ‘common accounts’ which did > not include A/R and A/P and sure enough, the “Business” menu is visible as > was the “New Invoice” button. (I didn’t go through the trouble of creating > an invoice or bill and seeing what would happen) > > > > This was not always the case, certainly not at some point in the 2.6 > series. I distinctly remember having to ‘enable business features’ to both > get the Business menu as well as making the New Invoice button visible. I > think doing so also created the special A/R and A/P accounts in my tree. > > > > Perhaps the business features which were originally an add-on module > were finally integrated into the main program at some point. > > > > Regards, > > Adrien > > ___ > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
Thanks David, I was looking for that the other day and somehow glanced over it. Indeed, it is still there in 3.4. (about to install 3.5 shortly) I suppose, then, since preferences are user rather than book based that’s why the buttons were already there. I didn’t try to start GC from a fresh user perspective. I’d have to try an old copy of 2.6, but I seem to recall this being labeled as ‘enable business features’ (which also added the special accounts and added the Business menu) not just ‘enable extra buttons’, but my memory could be faulty. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 1, 2019, at 7:33 PM, David Carlson wrote: > > So far none of you have mentioned going to Edit > Preferences > Business and > checking Enable Extra Buttons. Back in the Release 2.6.xx days that was > necessary to even see the buttons to create invoices or whatever that I have > never looked for because I was not using them. > > David Carlson > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 5:39 PM Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > > On Mar 31, 2019, at 3:35 AM, David T. via gnucash-user > > wrote: > > > > Oh. Let me go to nabble to figure out that you're replying to my post... > > now, having closed all the spammy windows for super resume... > > Or just use e-mail instead of Nabble? (or I’m sure something like uBlock > Origin could zap those windows before they come into existence) > > > Having the new account assistant create a specific set of accounts IN NO > > WAY is "enabling business features." It's just a bunch of accounts. The > > features are always "enabled." We might as well speak of "enabling" double > > entry features in Gnucash when we open a register in transaction view. > > It is convenient, to be sure, to have these accounts created for me, but > > this is in no way something in preferences, as was implied in the message > > to which I was responding. > > There is NO special setting. To quote Monty Python, there is NO severed > > head beneath the bed. > > David T. > > I just opened a new file, chose the default ‘common accounts’ which did not > include A/R and A/P and sure enough, the “Business” menu is visible as was > the “New Invoice” button. (I didn’t go through the trouble of creating an > invoice or bill and seeing what would happen) > > This was not always the case, certainly not at some point in the 2.6 series. > I distinctly remember having to ‘enable business features’ to both get the > Business menu as well as making the New Invoice button visible. I think doing > so also created the special A/R and A/P accounts in my tree. > > Perhaps the business features which were originally an add-on module were > finally integrated into the main program at some point. > > Regards, > Adrien > ___ ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
So far none of you have mentioned going to Edit > Preferences > Business and checking Enable Extra Buttons. Back in the Release 2.6.xx days that was necessary to even see the buttons to create invoices or whatever that I have never looked for because I was not using them. David Carlson On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 5:39 PM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > > > On Mar 31, 2019, at 3:35 AM, David T. via gnucash-user < > gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > > > > Oh. Let me go to nabble to figure out that you're replying to my > post... now, having closed all the spammy windows for super resume... > > Or just use e-mail instead of Nabble? (or I’m sure something like uBlock > Origin could zap those windows before they come into existence) > > > Having the new account assistant create a specific set of accounts IN NO > WAY is "enabling business features." It's just a bunch of accounts. The > features are always "enabled." We might as well speak of "enabling" double > entry features in Gnucash when we open a register in transaction view. > > It is convenient, to be sure, to have these accounts created for me, but > this is in no way something in preferences, as was implied in the message > to which I was responding. > > There is NO special setting. To quote Monty Python, there is NO severed > head beneath the bed. > > David T. > > I just opened a new file, chose the default ‘common accounts’ which did > not include A/R and A/P and sure enough, the “Business” menu is visible as > was the “New Invoice” button. (I didn’t go through the trouble of creating > an invoice or bill and seeing what would happen) > > This was not always the case, certainly not at some point in the 2.6 > series. I distinctly remember having to ‘enable business features’ to both > get the Business menu as well as making the New Invoice button visible. I > think doing so also created the special A/R and A/P accounts in my tree. > > Perhaps the business features which were originally an add-on module were > finally integrated into the main program at some point. > > Regards, > Adrien > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
> On Mar 31, 2019, at 3:35 AM, David T. via gnucash-user > wrote: > > Oh. Let me go to nabble to figure out that you're replying to my post... > now, having closed all the spammy windows for super resume... Or just use e-mail instead of Nabble? (or I’m sure something like uBlock Origin could zap those windows before they come into existence) > Having the new account assistant create a specific set of accounts IN NO WAY > is "enabling business features." It's just a bunch of accounts. The features > are always "enabled." We might as well speak of "enabling" double entry > features in Gnucash when we open a register in transaction view. > It is convenient, to be sure, to have these accounts created for me, but this > is in no way something in preferences, as was implied in the message to which > I was responding. > There is NO special setting. To quote Monty Python, there is NO severed head > beneath the bed. > David T. I just opened a new file, chose the default ‘common accounts’ which did not include A/R and A/P and sure enough, the “Business” menu is visible as was the “New Invoice” button. (I didn’t go through the trouble of creating an invoice or bill and seeing what would happen) This was not always the case, certainly not at some point in the 2.6 series. I distinctly remember having to ‘enable business features’ to both get the Business menu as well as making the New Invoice button visible. I think doing so also created the special A/R and A/P accounts in my tree. Perhaps the business features which were originally an add-on module were finally integrated into the main program at some point. Regards, Adrien ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
Oh. Let me go to nabble to figure out that you're replying to my post... now, having closed all the spammy windows for super resume... Having the new account assistant create a specific set of accounts IN NO WAY is "enabling business features." It's just a bunch of accounts. The features are always "enabled." We might as well speak of "enabling" double entry features in Gnucash when we open a register in transaction view. It is convenient, to be sure, to have these accounts created for me, but this is in no way something in preferences, as was implied in the message to which I was responding. There is NO special setting. To quote Monty Python, there is NO severed head beneath the bed. David T. On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 13:36, David Cousens wrote: David, While displaying the Accounts tab select Actions->New Account Heirarchy to run the wizard Choose the currency and select your book currency Choose Accounts then Select the Business Accounts (check no other account groups are selected unless you want them added). then click Next This adds the business accounts to your account heirarchy. This "enables" the business features by creating the required accounts and is all that is required other than setting the preferences required under the Edit->Preferences Business tab and setting the billing terms and customers and vendors and any Sales tax tables. See https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-help/chapter_busnss.html for more detail. David Cousens - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
David, While displaying the Accounts tab select Actions->New Account Heirarchy to run the wizard Choose the currency and select your book currency Choose Accounts then Select the Business Accounts (check no other account groups are selected unless you want them added). then click Next This adds the business accounts to your account heirarchy. This "enables" the business features by creating the required accounts and is all that is required other than setting the preferences required under the Edit->Preferences Business tab and setting the billing terms and customers and vendors and any Sales tax tables. See https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-help/chapter_busnss.html for more detail. David Cousens - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
On Saturday, 30 March 2019 09:09:21 GMT Adrien Monteleone wrote: > I haven’t started a new file since 3.2 but that used to be an option when > doing so. It could be done later if not in the startup wizard. Perhaps > choosing the business account s template set the preference for you. > > Regards, > Adrien > Hi, IIRC, the new file wizard has a checkbox for "business Accounts" as a template, which will set up the relevant A/P etc. accounts with the correct types, it also allows the user to enter business details (name address) all as part of the new file process. Of course, GC allows the editing of the tree at any time, and there is a pref (somewhere) for business details so it can all be done manually after the wizard has run, I don't recall an "enable business" flag/option as such in GC HTH, Maf. -- Maf. King Standby Events Ltd. m...@standbyevents.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)115 727 0542 Mob: +44 (0)7860 182793 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
On Saturday, 30 March 2019 09:09:21 GMT Adrien Monteleone wrote: > I haven’t started a new file since 3.2 but that used to be an option when > doing so. It could be done later if not in the startup wizard. Perhaps > choosing the business account s template set the preference for you. > > Regards, > Adrien > Hi, IIRC, the new file wizard has a checkbox for "business Accounts" as a template, which will set up the relevant A/P etc. accounts with the correct types, it also allows the user to enter business details (name address) all as part of the new file process. Of course, GC allows the editing of the tree at any time, and there is a pref (somewhere) for business details so it can all be done manually after the wizard has run, I don't recall an "enable business" flag/option as such in GC HTH, Maf. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
I haven’t started a new file since 3.2 but that used to be an option when doing so. It could be done later if not in the startup wizard. Perhaps choosing the business account s template set the preference for you. Regards, Adrien > On Mar 30, 2019, at 2:11 AM, David T. via gnucash-user > wrote: > > I'm not sure what you're talking about. I just recently created a set of > books for a business (my first attempt), and I had no need to "enable > business features." > David > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I just recently created a set of books for a business (my first attempt), and I had no need to "enable business features." David On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 5:18, R. Victor Klassen wrote: Before you can do any of the below, you need to “enable business features”. I don’t run GnuCash on this machine, so I don’t know exactly where that is - something anyone only does once - but when you have done that you can create customers (who buy from you) and vendors (who sell to you), and then create invoices (associated with customers) and bills (associated with vendors). Normally when invoices and bills are “posted” they create entries in Accounts Receivable and Accounts Payable respectively - which you don’t manipulate directly. When you make/receive payment you go to the corresponding menu item (vendor->process payment or customer->process payment) and fill in the fields in the form that appears. At first it seems like a lot of overhead to have to create a customer for an invoice (if any one customer is unlikely to be repeat, you might want a pseudo-customer that you re-use) or a vendor for a bill (more likely that vendors are recurring). But once they’ve been created you just select them and there’s less typing. > On Mar 29, 2019, at 7:23 AM, Justin Haynes > wrote: > > Gustav, try what Geert says. You’ll need an Accounts Payable account under > liabilities, and this is a standard accounting practice. > > When you create a new bill you post it, and it shows in Accounts Payable. > When you pay against that bill, it goes also to Accounts Payable. The > billing system keeps vendors and bills organized so you know how much you owe > each vendor and for what. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 29, 2019, at 5:42 AM, Geert Janssens >> wrote: >> >> Hi Gustav, >> >> Welcome to gnucash! >> >> It's not clear what you mean with "I don't have a way to log in a bill...". >> Did you try >> Business->Vendor->New Bill... ? >> What exactly didn't work ? >> >> Regards, >> >> Geert >> >> Op donderdag 28 maart 2019 21:24:41 CET schreef Gustav Kriek: >>> Hi there >>> I'm new to using Gnucash and its also the first time I'm doing my own >>> books. I just started working for myself, and as sole proprietor I need to >>> keep better track of things. >>> Ive set up all of my accounts and brought everything up to date...took me >>> quite a few hours to be honest. I just realised I dont have a way to log in >>> a bill, see when its must be paid or indicate it has been paid. I presume I >>> didnt make the correct selection when I chose my hierarchy. I don't want to >>> create a new profile because it took so long. Is there a way I can add this >>> in to what I already have? >>> I would appreciate any advise. >>> Gustav >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
Before you can do any of the below, you need to “enable business features”. I don’t run GnuCash on this machine, so I don’t know exactly where that is - something anyone only does once - but when you have done that you can create customers (who buy from you) and vendors (who sell to you), and then create invoices (associated with customers) and bills (associated with vendors). Normally when invoices and bills are “posted” they create entries in Accounts Receivable and Accounts Payable respectively - which you don’t manipulate directly. When you make/receive payment you go to the corresponding menu item (vendor->process payment or customer->process payment) and fill in the fields in the form that appears. At first it seems like a lot of overhead to have to create a customer for an invoice (if any one customer is unlikely to be repeat, you might want a pseudo-customer that you re-use) or a vendor for a bill (more likely that vendors are recurring). But once they’ve been created you just select them and there’s less typing. > On Mar 29, 2019, at 7:23 AM, Justin Haynes > wrote: > > Gustav, try what Geert says. You’ll need an Accounts Payable account under > liabilities, and this is a standard accounting practice. > > When you create a new bill you post it, and it shows in Accounts Payable. > When you pay against that bill, it goes also to Accounts Payable. The > billing system keeps vendors and bills organized so you know how much you owe > each vendor and for what. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 29, 2019, at 5:42 AM, Geert Janssens >> wrote: >> >> Hi Gustav, >> >> Welcome to gnucash! >> >> It's not clear what you mean with "I don't have a way to log in a bill...". >> Did you try >> Business->Vendor->New Bill... ? >> What exactly didn't work ? >> >> Regards, >> >> Geert >> >> Op donderdag 28 maart 2019 21:24:41 CET schreef Gustav Kriek: >>> Hi there >>> I'm new to using Gnucash and its also the first time I'm doing my own >>> books. I just started working for myself, and as sole proprietor I need to >>> keep better track of things. >>> Ive set up all of my accounts and brought everything up to date...took me >>> quite a few hours to be honest. I just realised I dont have a way to log in >>> a bill, see when its must be paid or indicate it has been paid. I presume I >>> didnt make the correct selection when I chose my hierarchy. I don't want to >>> create a new profile because it took so long. Is there a way I can add this >>> in to what I already have? >>> I would appreciate any advise. >>> Gustav >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
Gustav, try what Geert says. You’ll need an Accounts Payable account under liabilities, and this is a standard accounting practice. When you create a new bill you post it, and it shows in Accounts Payable. When you pay against that bill, it goes also to Accounts Payable. The billing system keeps vendors and bills organized so you know how much you owe each vendor and for what. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 29, 2019, at 5:42 AM, Geert Janssens > wrote: > > Hi Gustav, > > Welcome to gnucash! > > It's not clear what you mean with "I don't have a way to log in a bill...". > Did you try > Business->Vendor->New Bill... ? > What exactly didn't work ? > > Regards, > > Geert > > Op donderdag 28 maart 2019 21:24:41 CET schreef Gustav Kriek: >> Hi there >> I'm new to using Gnucash and its also the first time I'm doing my own >> books. I just started working for myself, and as sole proprietor I need to >> keep better track of things. >> Ive set up all of my accounts and brought everything up to date...took me >> quite a few hours to be honest. I just realised I dont have a way to log in >> a bill, see when its must be paid or indicate it has been paid. I presume I >> didnt make the correct selection when I chose my hierarchy. I don't want to >> create a new profile because it took so long. Is there a way I can add this >> in to what I already have? >> I would appreciate any advise. >> Gustav >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
Hi Gustav, Welcome to gnucash! It's not clear what you mean with "I don't have a way to log in a bill...". Did you try Business->Vendor->New Bill... ? What exactly didn't work ? Regards, Geert Op donderdag 28 maart 2019 21:24:41 CET schreef Gustav Kriek: > Hi there > I'm new to using Gnucash and its also the first time I'm doing my own > books. I just started working for myself, and as sole proprietor I need to > keep better track of things. > Ive set up all of my accounts and brought everything up to date...took me > quite a few hours to be honest. I just realised I dont have a way to log in > a bill, see when its must be paid or indicate it has been paid. I presume I > didnt make the correct selection when I chose my hierarchy. I don't want to > create a new profile because it took so long. Is there a way I can add this > in to what I already have? > I would appreciate any advise. > Gustav > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Bills in Gnucash
Gustav, Welcome to gnucash. Although I am not an expert in using the business features, I believe that you can add your customers and suppliers to your existing account structure without disruption. The chapter on using business features in the Guide should help you out. Best,David On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 13:46, Gustav Kriek wrote: Hi there I'm new to using Gnucash and its also the first time I'm doing my own books. I just started working for myself, and as sole proprietor I need to keep better track of things. Ive set up all of my accounts and brought everything up to date...took me quite a few hours to be honest. I just realised I dont have a way to log in a bill, see when its must be paid or indicate it has been paid. I presume I didnt make the correct selection when I chose my hierarchy. I don't want to create a new profile because it took so long. Is there a way I can add this in to what I already have? I would appreciate any advise. Gustav ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
