Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks Tommy,

The build of 3.2 for 16.04 was simple enough a couple of days ago. (partly 
because I’d built before on that vm so most everything was already there 
dependency-wise) The updated instructions certainly are helpful, but I did have 
to read and re-read them several times as the wording in some places was a 
little odd or not particularly in a “Step 1,2,3” fashion. (not always easy when 
building because of the myriad of variances on individual systems and of 
course, builder preferences)

Perhaps maybe a “here’s how to build yourself if you’ve never held a hammer” 
and then a “if you’re an old hat, here’s the particulars you can get your own 
mileage out of” sort of approach will help more less seasoned users obtain a 
more recent version with the least amount of effort. The current instructions 
are a VAST improvement, but they still try to be all things to all compiling 
users in one go, but we truly have vastly different skills levels and thus 
audiences for this material.

So, on backporting, I just successfully built. I can recreate my command 
sequence from my bash history. I suppose there is an official *buntu 
link/process to request and demonstrate a successful backport. I’ll add it to 
one of my burners along with possibly a build script for the newbies unless 
someone wants to take that. As I was building, my thought was that this could 
easily be scripted to prompt for preferences and check and install needed 
dependencies and shouldn’t be that difficult. I’ve never written an install 
script like this and always did things the hard way, but if anyone else reading 
has done this before, please look over the Ubuntu building pages and see if 
something is possible here.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Tommy Trussell  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 1:45 PM Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> Thanks for the run-down.
> 
> So simply a case of Universe not pulling an update from Sid yet then? (or 
> will that never happen and each release’s Universe is always tied to Testing? 
> and then Stable, etc.) I know there is a separate backports repository as 
> well. Perhaps that’s a better solution?
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> 
> Ubuntu works on the premise that you have well defined releases every six 
> months, with processes for updating individual packages in special cases. The 
> vast majority of packages get copied from Debian at a particular time, then 
> forever that "snapshot" is a part of a particular Ubuntu release as its 
> "universe" repository. If an individual package urgently needs an update (due 
> to a security exploit or a data-losing bug) there is a process to push a 
> change into an appropriate repository, but the resources for that process are 
> fairly limited.
> 
> If you look at   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnucash  you'll see 
> that the 3.2 version of GnuCash hasn't yet made it into the Cosmic Cuttlefish 
> release (18.10, due in October) because it's still working its way through 
> the Debian release process.
> 
> Yes, the backports repository is easily available AND the process can be a 
> lower hurdle for updates. It does still take a little effort -- the person 
> requesting the backport requests (or they themselves do) a backport of a 
> package on a standard Ubuntu system. The process involves providing evidence 
> that the backported package builds and runs as expected, and the backport 
> volunteers certify and approve the packages for inclusion.
> 
> It's very easy to enable the backports repository, so this might be a good 
> way to provide an updated GnuCash. 
> 
> I'm not sure whether any other distributions use the Ubuntu Backports 
> repository. Mint might.
> 
> P.S.: I wish I could recommend the snap or flatpak versions of GnuCash, but I 
> don't think either has a well established network of folks keeping those 
> releases debugged and up to date. So (much like the getdeb repository) 
> whatever you see there was likely compiled by a committed individual, not a 
> team. 
> 
> Maybe someone will create GnuCash wiki pages with instructions simple enough 
> that any of us can help update flatpak or snap packages?
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Tommy Trussell]

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 1:45 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the run-down.
>
> So simply a case of Universe not pulling an update from Sid yet then? (or
> will that never happen and each release’s Universe is always tied to
> Testing? and then Stable, etc.) I know there is a separate backports
> repository as well. Perhaps that’s a better solution?
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>
Ubuntu works on the premise that you have well defined releases every six
months, with processes for updating individual packages in special cases.
The vast majority of packages get copied from Debian at a particular time,
then forever that "snapshot" is a part of a particular Ubuntu release as
its "universe" repository. If an individual package urgently needs an
update (due to a security exploit or a data-losing bug) there is a process
to push a change into an appropriate repository, but the resources for that
process are fairly limited.

If you look at   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnucash  you'll see
that the 3.2 version of GnuCash hasn't yet made it into the Cosmic
Cuttlefish release (18.10, due in October) because it's still working its
way through the Debian release process.

Yes, the backports repository is easily available AND the process can be a
lower hurdle for updates. It does still take a little effort -- the person
requesting the backport requests (or they themselves do) a backport of a
package on a standard Ubuntu system. The process involves providing
evidence that the backported package builds and runs as expected, and the
backport volunteers certify and approve the packages for inclusion.

It's very easy to enable the backports repository, so this might be a good
way to provide an updated GnuCash.

I'm not sure whether any other distributions use the Ubuntu Backports
repository. Mint might.

P.S.: I wish I could recommend the snap or flatpak versions of GnuCash, but
I don't think either has a well established network of folks keeping those
releases debugged and up to date. So (much like the getdeb repository)
whatever you see there was likely compiled by a committed individual, not a
team.

Maybe someone will create GnuCash wiki pages with instructions simple
enough that any of us can help update flatpak or snap packages?

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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[David Cousens]

Tommy,

Linux Mint is an Ubuntu based distribution. Lm 18 was based on Ubuntu
16.04 and the latest release Lm 19 is based on ubuntu 18.04. The
Software Manager has a standard build of GnuCash 2.6.19 and has a
flatpak version of V3.2 which has some issues in regard to accessing
some devices. It is possible some of these can be fixed with additional
flatpak components. 

GnuCash is fairly easy to build on Linux Mint if anyone needs to stay
ahead of the versions available in the distributions. See the Wiki http
s://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/BuildUbuntu16.04. (It also covers Ubuntu
18.04 and Linux Mint 18 and now Linux Mint 19.)

David Cousens
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks for the run-down.

So simply a case of Universe not pulling an update from Sid yet then? (or will 
that never happen and each release’s Universe is always tied to Testing? and 
then Stable, etc.) I know there is a separate backports repository as well. 
Perhaps that’s a better solution?

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 31, 2018, at 12:46 PM, Tommy Trussell  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:10 PM Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> I’m not sure what kind of work this would be on the devs, but Ubuntu has a 
> special procedure for LibreOffice and Firefox (if not other apps, perhaps 
> Thunderbird and Chrome/Chromium as well) where new versions are available in 
> the LTS repos either as available or by point-release.
> 
> This may be an option for GnuCash.
> 
> I’m not sure what’s involved, or if the team just has to ask Canonical to 
> give it the same special treatment.
> 
> But Canonical might prefer to push for an up-to-date Snap instead.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> 
> What you're describing is a special Ubuntu maintainer -- essentially someone 
> who has volunteered (and in some cases paid?) to keep particular packages 
> up-to-date. They have identified a few "mission critical" packages such as 
> web browsers and LibreOffice as deserving special treatment.
> 
> Most packages, like GnuCash, get copied in from Debian and go into the 
> "Universe" repository. The folks in charge of those are called "Masters of 
> the Universe" or MOTU.
> 
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Tommy Trussell]

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:10 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> I’m not sure what kind of work this would be on the devs, but Ubuntu has a
> special procedure for LibreOffice and Firefox (if not other apps, perhaps
> Thunderbird and Chrome/Chromium as well) where new versions are available
> in the LTS repos either as available or by point-release.
>
> This may be an option for GnuCash.
>
> I’m not sure what’s involved, or if the team just has to ask Canonical to
> give it the same special treatment.
>
> But Canonical might prefer to push for an up-to-date Snap instead.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>
What you're describing is a special Ubuntu maintainer -- essentially
someone who has volunteered (and in some cases paid?) to keep particular
packages up-to-date. They have identified a few "mission critical" packages
such as web browsers and LibreOffice as deserving special treatment.

Most packages, like GnuCash, get copied in from Debian and go into the
"Universe" repository. The folks in charge of those are called "Masters of
the Universe" or MOTU.



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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Adrien Monteleone]

I’m not sure what kind of work this would be on the devs, but Ubuntu has a 
special procedure for LibreOffice and Firefox (if not other apps, perhaps 
Thunderbird and Chrome/Chromium as well) where new versions are available in 
the LTS repos either as available or by point-release.

This may be an option for GnuCash.

I’m not sure what’s involved, or if the team just has to ask Canonical to give 
it the same special treatment.

But Canonical might prefer to push for an up-to-date Snap instead.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 31, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Tommy Trussell  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 1:53 PM Michael via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> 
>> I just recently built Gnucash 3.2 on Mint 18.3 following the steps in
>> the wiki instructions.  Did the dependencies, the googletest install,
>> the build and finally gnc-fq-update.  It works just fine.  There are a
>> lot of steps, but they seem to be correct.
>> 
>> As an aside, Debian, Mint and Ubuntu folks haven't been keeping gnucash
>> available in an up to date form for some time.  When I looked around I
>> was surprised to find it is available in other distributions, at least
>> the arch linux-related distros.
>> 
> 
> Just a little note of explanation -- Ubuntu gets GnuCash as a "snapshot" of
> Debian "unstable" (aka "sid") a few months or weeks before Ubuntu's
> twice-yearly release. It just so happens that there have been lots of
> GnuCash releases in the past six months, and the Debian maintainer had not
> yet succeeded in packaging a working version of any of the 3.x releases in
> time for it to get copied to the Ubuntu LTS release.
> 
> SO that's why the latest Ubuntu supplies GnuCash 2.6.19. The NEXT non-LTS
> release of Ubuntu due in October will likely get GnuCash 3.2 (or newer).
> 
> The lag is probably for the best, because several distros (such as some
> flavors of Mint) base their releases upon the Ubuntu LTS (Long Term
> Support) releases that get updated only every two years, and personally I
> would rather see more folks see a more stable version of GnuCash from the
> LTS such as 2.6.19 than 3.0 or 3.1.
> 
> For my purposes I'm pretty conservative in my expectations with GnuCash so
> I have not pressed for getting 3.x in the current Ubuntu 18.04 "Bionic" LTS
> repository. If enough folks felt GnuCash 3.2 to be solid enough and offers
> enough of an advantage (OR folks believe GnuCash 2.6.19 has a major
> show-stopping flaw) I would gladly help press an Ubuntu "MOTU" maintainer
> to sponsor the upgrade.
> 
> MOST of the time, Ubuntu users can take a current Debian source package and
> install it on the latest Ubuntu (OR any of the Ubuntu-derived
> distributions), but there are a few dependent package changes this time.
> This is why none of the Ubuntu-derived distributions have 3.x in their
> repositories, AND why it's moderately unlikely the new GnuCash releases
> will be "backported" to the previous Ubuntu 16.04 "Xenial" LTS, even though
> that release is still supported for three more years. The difficulty may
> also be a factor in why the GetDeb folks seem to have given up. Porting is
> a lot more work than usual.
> 
> By the way, folks running Debian "unstable" (aka "sid") should have GnuCash
> 3.2 available. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gnucash
> 
> I have never used Mint, but I believe some versions are based on Debian,
> and maybe those include the most current release of GnuCash.
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Tommy Trussell]

On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 1:53 PM Michael via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I just recently built Gnucash 3.2 on Mint 18.3 following the steps in
> the wiki instructions.  Did the dependencies, the googletest install,
> the build and finally gnc-fq-update.  It works just fine.  There are a
> lot of steps, but they seem to be correct.
>
> As an aside, Debian, Mint and Ubuntu folks haven't been keeping gnucash
> available in an up to date form for some time.  When I looked around I
> was surprised to find it is available in other distributions, at least
> the arch linux-related distros.
>

Just a little note of explanation -- Ubuntu gets GnuCash as a "snapshot" of
Debian "unstable" (aka "sid") a few months or weeks before Ubuntu's
twice-yearly release. It just so happens that there have been lots of
GnuCash releases in the past six months, and the Debian maintainer had not
yet succeeded in packaging a working version of any of the 3.x releases in
time for it to get copied to the Ubuntu LTS release.

SO that's why the latest Ubuntu supplies GnuCash 2.6.19. The NEXT non-LTS
release of Ubuntu due in October will likely get GnuCash 3.2 (or newer).

The lag is probably for the best, because several distros (such as some
flavors of Mint) base their releases upon the Ubuntu LTS (Long Term
Support) releases that get updated only every two years, and personally I
would rather see more folks see a more stable version of GnuCash from the
LTS such as 2.6.19 than 3.0 or 3.1.

For my purposes I'm pretty conservative in my expectations with GnuCash so
I have not pressed for getting 3.x in the current Ubuntu 18.04 "Bionic" LTS
repository. If enough folks felt GnuCash 3.2 to be solid enough and offers
enough of an advantage (OR folks believe GnuCash 2.6.19 has a major
show-stopping flaw) I would gladly help press an Ubuntu "MOTU" maintainer
to sponsor the upgrade.

MOST of the time, Ubuntu users can take a current Debian source package and
install it on the latest Ubuntu (OR any of the Ubuntu-derived
distributions), but there are a few dependent package changes this time.
This is why none of the Ubuntu-derived distributions have 3.x in their
repositories, AND why it's moderately unlikely the new GnuCash releases
will be "backported" to the previous Ubuntu 16.04 "Xenial" LTS, even though
that release is still supported for three more years. The difficulty may
also be a factor in why the GetDeb folks seem to have given up. Porting is
a lot more work than usual.

By the way, folks running Debian "unstable" (aka "sid") should have GnuCash
3.2 available. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gnucash

I have never used Mint, but I believe some versions are based on Debian,
and maybe those include the most current release of GnuCash.



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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[David Cousens]

Colin,I now suspect it is possibly totally flatpak related. I have just
got my build environment setup after swapping over to Linux Mint 19
Tara  and a fresh build of V3.2  with all options enabled is giving me
all the database save options. I don't have mysql back up yet but it
saved the file as an sqlite3 file with no problems. My guess and it is
only that is there are modules associated with the flatpak system which
perhaps interface with the OS that may be missing. I had problems
seeing USB sticks and network shares form the flatpak, but these have
disappeared with a native build on LM19. I'd stick with your own build
and forget the flatpak at least for the moment. I can't see any
optional modules in the LM19 Software manager but I found a few
references on other forums to having to load additional support for
some interactions with the OS. I hear snap is a better system but have
no experience with it. there is a version on the snapcraft site. Might
have a look once my OS is sorted out and functioning
David
On Sun, 2018-07-29 at 09:04 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
> On 28 July 2018 at 23:11, David Cousens 
> wrote:
> > Colin,
> > 
> > It is possible it has been compiled or is missing libdbi which
> > supoports the db access via the various db backends.  It has to be
> > included in the dependencies to get the sqlbackend to run.
> 
> David,
> 
> I see MySQL as an option in Save As so I assumed that meant that it
> had been compiled with libdbi enabled.  I am able to save to mysql
> using a self-compiled 3.2 version of GnuCash so that suggests to me
> that the run time system dependencies are there.  Can you suggest
> what the problem might be?  As you say it is a pain that it seems
> that a trace file is not generated (I did a full disk search for the
> trace file and could not find it) as it is very difficult to know
> what is going on.
> 
> Colin
> 
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Colin Law]

On 29 July 2018 at 14:53, Les  wrote:

> I don't think there is a 3.2 version of GC in Snap. I think the latest is
> 2.6.21. I am using it on my LM 18.2 production system.
>

I think I mentioned (much) earlier that I attempted to contact the
snapper(?) to ask if he was going to update it, but there was no response.

Colin



>
> Les
>
>
> On 07/29/2018 07:53 AM, David Cousens wrote:
>
>> Colin,I now suspect it is possibly totally flatpak related. I have just
>>
>> got my build environment setup after swapping over to Linux Mint 19
>> Tara  and a fresh build of V3.2  with all options enabled is giving me
>> all the database save options. I don't have mysql back up yet but it
>> saved the file as an sqlite3 file with no problems. My guess and it is
>> only that is there are modules associated with the flatpak system which
>> perhaps interface with the OS that may be missing. I had problems
>> seeing USB sticks and network shares form the flatpak, but these have
>> disappeared with a native build on LM19. I'd stick with your own build
>> and forget the flatpak at least for the moment. I can't see any
>> optional modules in the LM19 Software manager but I found a few
>> references on other forums to having to load additional support for
>> some interactions with the OS. I hear snap is a better system but have
>> no experience with it. there is a version on the snapcraft site. Might
>> have a look once my OS is sorted out and functioning
>> David
>> On Sun, 2018-07-29 at 09:04 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
>>
>>> On 28 July 2018 at 23:11, David Cousens 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Colin,

 It is possible it has been compiled or is missing libdbi which
 supoports the db access via the various db backends.  It has to be
 included in the dependencies to get the sqlbackend to run.

>>> David,
>>>
>>> I see MySQL as an option in Save As so I assumed that meant that it
>>> had been compiled with libdbi enabled.  I am able to save to mysql
>>> using a self-compiled 3.2 version of GnuCash so that suggests to me
>>> that the run time system dependencies are there.  Can you suggest
>>> what the problem might be?  As you say it is a pain that it seems
>>> that a trace file is not generated (I did a full disk search for the
>>> trace file and could not find it) as it is very difficult to know
>>> what is going on.
>>>
>>> Colin
>>>
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Les]

I don't think there is a 3.2 version of GC in Snap. I think the latest 
is 2.6.21. I am using it on my LM 18.2 production system.


Les


On 07/29/2018 07:53 AM, David Cousens wrote:

Colin,I now suspect it is possibly totally flatpak related. I have just
got my build environment setup after swapping over to Linux Mint 19
Tara  and a fresh build of V3.2  with all options enabled is giving me
all the database save options. I don't have mysql back up yet but it
saved the file as an sqlite3 file with no problems. My guess and it is
only that is there are modules associated with the flatpak system which
perhaps interface with the OS that may be missing. I had problems
seeing USB sticks and network shares form the flatpak, but these have
disappeared with a native build on LM19. I'd stick with your own build
and forget the flatpak at least for the moment. I can't see any
optional modules in the LM19 Software manager but I found a few
references on other forums to having to load additional support for
some interactions with the OS. I hear snap is a better system but have
no experience with it. there is a version on the snapcraft site. Might
have a look once my OS is sorted out and functioning
David
On Sun, 2018-07-29 at 09:04 +0100, Colin Law wrote:

On 28 July 2018 at 23:11, David Cousens 
wrote:

Colin,

It is possible it has been compiled or is missing libdbi which
supoports the db access via the various db backends.  It has to be
included in the dependencies to get the sqlbackend to run.

David,

I see MySQL as an option in Save As so I assumed that meant that it
had been compiled with libdbi enabled.  I am able to save to mysql
using a self-compiled 3.2 version of GnuCash so that suggests to me
that the run time system dependencies are there.  Can you suggest
what the problem might be?  As you say it is a pain that it seems
that a trace file is not generated (I did a full disk search for the
trace file and could not find it) as it is very difficult to know
what is going on.

Colin


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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[David Cousens]

Colin,I now suspect it is possibly totally flatpak related. I have just
got my build environment setup after swapping over to Linux Mint 19
Tara  and a fresh build of V3.2  with all options enabled is giving me
all the database save options. I don't have mysql back up yet but it
saved the file as an sqlite3 file with no problems. My guess and it is
only that is there are modules associated with the flatpak system which
perhaps interface with the OS that may be missing. I had problems
seeing USB sticks and network shares form the flatpak, but these have
disappeared with a native build on LM19. I'd stick with your own build
and forget the flatpak at least for the moment. I can't see any
optional modules in the LM19 Software manager but I found a few
references on other forums to having to load additional support for
some interactions with the OS. I hear snap is a better system but have
no experience with it. there is a version on the snapcraft site. Might
have a look once my OS is sorted out and functioning
David
On Sun, 2018-07-29 at 09:04 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
> On 28 July 2018 at 23:11, David Cousens 
> wrote:
> > Colin,
> > 
> > It is possible it has been compiled or is missing libdbi which
> > supoports the db access via the various db backends.  It has to be
> > included in the dependencies to get the sqlbackend to run.
> 
> David,
> 
> I see MySQL as an option in Save As so I assumed that meant that it
> had been compiled with libdbi enabled.  I am able to save to mysql
> using a self-compiled 3.2 version of GnuCash so that suggests to me
> that the run time system dependencies are there.  Can you suggest
> what the problem might be?  As you say it is a pain that it seems
> that a trace file is not generated (I did a full disk search for the
> trace file and could not find it) as it is very difficult to know
> what is going on.
> 
> Colin
> 
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Colin Law]

On 28 July 2018 at 23:11, David Cousens  wrote:

> Colin,
>
> It is possible it has been compiled or is missing libdbi which supoports
> the db access via the various db backends. It has to be included in the
> dependencies to get the sqlbackend to run.
>

David,

I see MySQL as an option in Save As so I assumed that meant that it had
been compiled with libdbi enabled.  I am able to save to mysql using a
self-compiled 3.2 version of GnuCash so that suggests to me that the run
time system dependencies are there.  Can you suggest what the problem might
be?  As you say it is a pain that it seems that a trace file is not
generated (I did a full disk search for the trace file and could not find
it) as it is very difficult to know what is going on.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[David Cousens]

Colin,
It is possible it has been compiled or is missing libdbi which
supoports the db access via the various db backends.  It has to be
included in the dependencies to get the sqlbackend to run.  I haven't
yet explored the flatpak process at all. If it hides trace and
debugging information that's not helpful. The two guys who run the
Githubflathub/org.GnuCash.GnuCash site seem to be primarily Gnome
developers rather than being involved with the GnuCash development. I
don't know if they had any contact with the main GnuCash developers
before setting it up.  I converted from LM18.3 to LM 19 iin the middle
of this and struck some initial problems with a kernel upgrade that
LM19 applied automatically. Still recovering from that one. Still
sorting out some problems with network shares as well. I've just about
got the GnuCash build setup back to normal on LM 19 but hit a hitch
with the cmake detection of swig3.0 which I'm sorting out.
David

 On Sat, 2018-07-28 at 13:56 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
> On 28 July 2018 at 13:20, David Cousens 
> wrote:
> > Deva
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Linux Mint 19 is called Tara and is based on Ubuntu 18.04. 
> > 
> > Linux Mint 18.2 is called Sonya and is based on Ubuntu 16.04
> > 
> > The flatpak version is available in both from the Software manager.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The flatpak version is fine as long as you don't want any of the
> > 
> > optional GnuCashfeatures like
> > 
> >  aqbanking
> > 
> >  sql backends etc 
> > 
> > as they do not have these options included in the build. It however
> > 
> > does have any bugs recorded for GnuCash v3.2 so far.
> 
> In fact the sql backend is included in the build, because it is
> available from the Save As dialog.  However it doesn't work, for me
> at least.  In addition it does not appear to generate a trace file,
> or at least I can't find it, so it is difficult to work out what is
> going wrong.
> Colin
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Ronal B Morse]

Fedora 28 picked up 3.2 about a week after it was announced...I was 
planning to make a hole in my schedule to give me time to science out 
installing from source, but a kindly developer beat me to it.


RBM



On 07/28/2018 12:50 PM, Michael via gnucash-user wrote:
I just recently built Gnucash 3.2 on Mint 18.3 following the steps in 
the wiki instructions.  Did the dependencies, the googletest install, 
the build and finally gnc-fq-update.  It works just fine.  There are a 
lot of steps, but they seem to be correct.


As an aside, Debian, Mint and Ubuntu folks haven't been keeping 
gnucash available in an up to date form for some time.  When I looked 
around I was surprised to find it is available in other distributions, 
at least the arch linux-related distros.  I have been using 3.2 on 
Archlabs where 3.1 was updated to 3.2 about a week after the 
announcement date.  Of course, Archlabs is a rolling distribution with 
a relatively high frequency of package updates.  Mike

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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Shabuboy.joy]

Mint 18.2 did not have the gnc-fq-update file and stocks were not working. I
installed it following this instructions:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes

All good afterwards.



Thank you all!

I sure learned quite a bit such as:
- Why repositories are a bit behind on software versions
- Flatpack is possibly an option
- And lots of other details!

Thanks again!



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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Shabuboy.joy]

Thank you all!

I sure learned quite a bit such as:
- Why repositories are a bit behind on software versions
- Flatpack is possibly an option
- And lots of other details!

Thanks again!



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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Les]

Just noticed that there is a message in Security Editor stating that 
Finance::Quote is not installed correctly.  I installed F::Q via "sudo 
perl -MPAN -e shell".  So is there another method of installed F::Q?


Les



On 07/28/2018 12:18 PM, Colin Law wrote:

Which components were missing?

Colin

On 28 July 2018 at 17:40, Les > wrote:


Following this thread, I checked my installation on my test system
(running LM 19) and found that some of the components of Flatpak
were missing.  I did an uninstall of GC 3.2.  I then added the
missing parts to Flatpak. (Curiously, the instructions for
installing Flatpak says that a reboot is necessary after
installing Flatpak.)  I then reinstalled GC 3.2.  Upon completion,
I opened GC and then Price Editor. It is grayed out.  Checking
Security Editor, all of my securities are also grayed out.

Also, going to .gnucash in my home directory, there is no
environment file.  So, were does AlphaVantage key go?

Les



On 07/28/2018 07:56 AM, Colin Law wrote:

On 28 July 2018 at 13:20, David Cousens
mailto:davidcous...@bigpond.com>>
wrote:

Deva

Linux Mint 19 is called Tara and is based on Ubuntu 18.04.
Linux Mint 18.2 is called Sonya and is based on Ubuntu 16.04
The flatpak version is available in both from the Software
manager.

The flatpak version is fine as long as you don't want any
of the
optional GnuCashfeatures like
  aqbanking
  sql backends etc

as they do not have these options included in the build. It
however

does have any bugs recorded for GnuCash v3.2 so far.

In fact the sql backend is included in the build, because it
is available
from the Save As dialog.  However it doesn't work, for me at
least.  In
addition it does not appear to generate a trace file, or at
least I can't
find it, so it is difficult to work out what is going wrong.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Les]

gnome-software-plugin-flatpak and I believe libflatpak0. Also, the PPA 
was missing from the Repo.


As an aside, I originally installed Flatpak based on the original 
posting on this list a couple of months ago.  I guess I missed some 
steps. :-[


Les


On 07/28/2018 12:18 PM, Colin Law wrote:

Which components were missing?

Colin

On 28 July 2018 at 17:40, Les > wrote:


Following this thread, I checked my installation on my test system
(running LM 19) and found that some of the components of Flatpak
were missing.  I did an uninstall of GC 3.2.  I then added the
missing parts to Flatpak. (Curiously, the instructions for
installing Flatpak says that a reboot is necessary after
installing Flatpak.)  I then reinstalled GC 3.2.  Upon completion,
I opened GC and then Price Editor. It is grayed out.  Checking
Security Editor, all of my securities are also grayed out.

Also, going to .gnucash in my home directory, there is no
environment file.  So, were does AlphaVantage key go?

Les



On 07/28/2018 07:56 AM, Colin Law wrote:

On 28 July 2018 at 13:20, David Cousens
mailto:davidcous...@bigpond.com>>
wrote:

Deva

Linux Mint 19 is called Tara and is based on Ubuntu 18.04.
Linux Mint 18.2 is called Sonya and is based on Ubuntu 16.04
The flatpak version is available in both from the Software
manager.

The flatpak version is fine as long as you don't want any
of the
optional GnuCashfeatures like
  aqbanking
  sql backends etc

as they do not have these options included in the build. It
however

does have any bugs recorded for GnuCash v3.2 so far.

In fact the sql backend is included in the build, because it
is available
from the Save As dialog.  However it doesn't work, for me at
least.  In
addition it does not appear to generate a trace file, or at
least I can't
find it, so it is difficult to work out what is going wrong.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Les]

Thanks Adrien.

I entered my AlphaVantage Key in the app preferences. However, the Price 
Database "Get Quotes" is still grayed out as well as individual 
securites in Security Editor.

I seem to be missing something.
Les

On 07/28/2018 11:47 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

It goes in the Online Quotes tab of the app preferences.

Regards,
Adrien


On Jul 28, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Les  wrote:

Following this thread, I checked my installation on my test system (running LM 
19) and found that some of the components of Flatpak were missing.  I did an 
uninstall of GC 3.2.  I then added the missing parts to Flatpak. (Curiously, 
the instructions for installing Flatpak says that a reboot is necessary after 
installing Flatpak.)  I then reinstalled GC 3.2.  Upon completion, I opened GC 
and then Price Editor.  It is grayed out.  Checking Security Editor, all of my 
securities are also grayed out.

Also, going to .gnucash in my home directory, there is no environment file.  
So, were does AlphaVantage key go?

Les


On 07/28/2018 07:56 AM, Colin Law wrote:

On 28 July 2018 at 13:20, David Cousens  wrote:


Deva

Linux Mint 19 is called Tara and is based on Ubuntu 18.04.
Linux Mint 18.2 is called Sonya and is based on Ubuntu 16.04
The flatpak version is available in both from the Software manager.

The flatpak version is fine as long as you don't want any of the
optional GnuCashfeatures like
  aqbanking
  sql backends etc


as they do not have these options included in the build. It however

does have any bugs recorded for GnuCash v3.2 so far.


In fact the sql backend is included in the build, because it is available
from the Save As dialog.  However it doesn't work, for me at least.  In
addition it does not appear to generate a trace file, or at least I can't
find it, so it is difficult to work out what is going wrong.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Colin Law]

Which components were missing?

Colin

On 28 July 2018 at 17:40, Les  wrote:

> Following this thread, I checked my installation on my test system
> (running LM 19) and found that some of the components of Flatpak were
> missing.  I did an uninstall of GC 3.2.  I then added the missing parts to
> Flatpak. (Curiously, the instructions for installing Flatpak says that a
> reboot is necessary after installing Flatpak.)  I then reinstalled GC 3.2.
> Upon completion, I opened GC and then Price Editor.  It is grayed out.
> Checking Security Editor, all of my securities are also grayed out.
>
> Also, going to .gnucash in my home directory, there is no environment
> file.  So, were does AlphaVantage key go?
>
> Les
>
>
>
> On 07/28/2018 07:56 AM, Colin Law wrote:
>
>> On 28 July 2018 at 13:20, David Cousens  wrote:
>>
>> Deva
>>>
>>> Linux Mint 19 is called Tara and is based on Ubuntu 18.04.
>>> Linux Mint 18.2 is called Sonya and is based on Ubuntu 16.04
>>> The flatpak version is available in both from the Software manager.
>>>
>>> The flatpak version is fine as long as you don't want any of the
>>> optional GnuCashfeatures like
>>>   aqbanking
>>>   sql backends etc
>>>
>>> as they do not have these options included in the build. It however
>>
>>> does have any bugs recorded for GnuCash v3.2 so far.
>>>
>>> In fact the sql backend is included in the build, because it is available
>> from the Save As dialog.  However it doesn't work, for me at least.  In
>> addition it does not appear to generate a trace file, or at least I can't
>> find it, so it is difficult to work out what is going wrong.
>>
>> Colin
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Adrien Monteleone]

It goes in the Online Quotes tab of the app preferences.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 28, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Les  wrote:
> 
> Following this thread, I checked my installation on my test system (running 
> LM 19) and found that some of the components of Flatpak were missing.  I did 
> an uninstall of GC 3.2.  I then added the missing parts to Flatpak. 
> (Curiously, the instructions for installing Flatpak says that a reboot is 
> necessary after installing Flatpak.)  I then reinstalled GC 3.2.  Upon 
> completion, I opened GC and then Price Editor.  It is grayed out.  Checking 
> Security Editor, all of my securities are also grayed out.
> 
> Also, going to .gnucash in my home directory, there is no environment file.  
> So, were does AlphaVantage key go?
> 
> Les
> 
> 
> On 07/28/2018 07:56 AM, Colin Law wrote:
>> On 28 July 2018 at 13:20, David Cousens  wrote:
>> 
>>> Deva
>>> 
>>> Linux Mint 19 is called Tara and is based on Ubuntu 18.04.
>>> Linux Mint 18.2 is called Sonya and is based on Ubuntu 16.04
>>> The flatpak version is available in both from the Software manager.
>>> 
>>> The flatpak version is fine as long as you don't want any of the
>>> optional GnuCashfeatures like
>>>  aqbanking
>>>  sql backends etc
>>> 
>> as they do not have these options included in the build. It however
>>> does have any bugs recorded for GnuCash v3.2 so far.
>>> 
>> In fact the sql backend is included in the build, because it is available
>> from the Save As dialog.  However it doesn't work, for me at least.  In
>> addition it does not appear to generate a trace file, or at least I can't
>> find it, so it is difficult to work out what is going wrong.
>> 
>> Colin
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Les]

Following this thread, I checked my installation on my test system 
(running LM 19) and found that some of the components of Flatpak were 
missing.  I did an uninstall of GC 3.2.  I then added the missing parts 
to Flatpak. (Curiously, the instructions for installing Flatpak says 
that a reboot is necessary after installing Flatpak.)  I then 
reinstalled GC 3.2.  Upon completion, I opened GC and then Price 
Editor.  It is grayed out.  Checking Security Editor, all of my 
securities are also grayed out.


Also, going to .gnucash in my home directory, there is no environment 
file.  So, were does AlphaVantage key go?


Les


On 07/28/2018 07:56 AM, Colin Law wrote:

On 28 July 2018 at 13:20, David Cousens  wrote:


Deva

Linux Mint 19 is called Tara and is based on Ubuntu 18.04.
Linux Mint 18.2 is called Sonya and is based on Ubuntu 16.04
The flatpak version is available in both from the Software manager.

The flatpak version is fine as long as you don't want any of the
optional GnuCashfeatures like
  aqbanking
  sql backends etc


as they do not have these options included in the build. It however

does have any bugs recorded for GnuCash v3.2 so far.


In fact the sql backend is included in the build, because it is available
from the Save As dialog.  However it doesn't work, for me at least.  In
addition it does not appear to generate a trace file, or at least I can't
find it, so it is difficult to work out what is going wrong.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Colin Law]

On 28 July 2018 at 13:20, David Cousens  wrote:

> Deva
>
> Linux Mint 19 is called Tara and is based on Ubuntu 18.04.
> Linux Mint 18.2 is called Sonya and is based on Ubuntu 16.04
> The flatpak version is available in both from the Software manager.
>
> The flatpak version is fine as long as you don't want any of the
> optional GnuCashfeatures like
>  aqbanking
>  sql backends etc
>
as they do not have these options included in the build. It however
> does have any bugs recorded for GnuCash v3.2 so far.
>

In fact the sql backend is included in the build, because it is available
from the Save As dialog.  However it doesn't work, for me at least.  In
addition it does not appear to generate a trace file, or at least I can't
find it, so it is difficult to work out what is going wrong.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Deva -]

Sorry, I am a newbie to Linux ecosystem and foolishly thought Sonya was the 
posters name instead of Linux mint version!

In any case, OP should now know what’s possible on Linux.

Thanks for the clarification.

Cheers.

> On 28-Jul-2018, at 5:50 PM, David Cousens  wrote:
> 
> Deva
> 
> Linux Mint 19 is called Tara and is based on Ubuntu 18.04. 
> Linux Mint 18.2 is called Sonya and is based on Ubuntu 16.04
> The flatpak version is available in both from the Software manager.
> 
> The flatpak version is fine as long as you don't want any of the
> optional GnuCashfeatures like
> aqbanking
> sql backends etc
> as they do not have these options included in the build. It however
> does have any bugs recorded for GnuCash v3.2 so far.
> 
> There is an issue to this effect registered with the flatpak package
> maintainer on Github but so far no response.
> 
> David Cousens
> 
> 

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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[David Cousens]

Deva

Linux Mint 19 is called Tara and is based on Ubuntu 18.04. 
Linux Mint 18.2 is called Sonya and is based on Ubuntu 16.04
The flatpak version is available in both from the Software manager.

The flatpak version is fine as long as you don't want any of the
optional GnuCashfeatures like
 aqbanking
 sql backends etc
as they do not have these options included in the build. It however
does have any bugs recorded for GnuCash v3.2 so far.

There is an issue to this effect registered with the flatpak package
maintainer on Github but so far no response.

David Cousens


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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Deva -]

I recently experimented with Linux mint (Tara) edition (which I think is 18.2 - 
version you are using) and the first thing I checked was the version of GnuCash 
available for use.

As you noted, the Software Manager has an older version, but you can get the 
latest 3.2 version from flatpack. Click on Flatpack (or perhaps called Flathub) 
when inside the Software Manager and search for GnuCash and you will find one 
packaged. It doesn’t show version info, but when I installed it and ran 
GnuCash, I found out that it is indeed the latest version.

if you are new to GnuCash, be sure to read the Tutorial & Concepts Guide - an 
outstandingly well written document! It helped me get over my fear of 
accounting terminology and accounting in general. All I did was spend half a 
day with it!

Have fun!

Cheers.

On 28-Jul-2018, at 12:35 PM, 
mailto:gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org>> 
mailto:gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org>> 
wrote:

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 01:11:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Shabuboy.joy" mailto:shabu...@hotmail.com>>
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2
Message-ID: 
<1532758268668-0.p...@n4.nabble.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hello,

I just migrated from Quicken to Gnucash. Loving it so far!

The question i have is: Will Gnucash 3.2 be available for Linux Mint 18.2?
The software manager installed 2.6.12
i did the apt update and upgrade and still same version is listed.

i also tried the getweb but got the same version, at least it told me the
same version was installed already.

I see the new version can be built from the source, but I am far from being
a Linux expert and never done that before.

I also have a MacOS running the 3.2 version, so wanted to match both version
on both systems in order to avoid possible bugs between the different
releases.

Regards

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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Colin Law]

On 28 July 2018 at 11:35, Colin Law  wrote:

> ...
>
> sudo flatpak install flathub org.gnucash.GnuCash
>


and to uninstall it:
sudo flatpak uninstall org.gnucash.GnuCash

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Colin Law]

On 28 July 2018 at 10:28, Plutocrat  wrote:

> The state of Gnucash in Ubuntu is not a happy one. Its packages are
> inherited from Debian, and for whatever reason, they've been lagging
> behind. I've tried to suggest upgrading a couple of times but to no avail,
> although one person did suggest that if I couched it as a Bug (i.e. version
> 3.2 fixes a lot of bugs) then I'd stand a better chance.
>
> There is a version 3.2 coming through in Debian unstable. Seems like it
> might make it into 18.10, but that wouldn't get it into 18.04 or Mint 18.2.
> Getdeb used to be an option, but it died with no explanation last
> September. There was also an Ubuntu PPA which died. I offered my services
> to try compiling 3.2 but received no response.
>
> It seems like perhaps your best option is one recently suggested on this
> list, which is to uninstall your current version and install the flatpack
> version, (a sort of app container, which includes all the dependencies). I
> installed this on a spare laptop, and it seemed to work and opened my 2.6
> file without issue, but I haven't really kicked the tyres on it.
> https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnucash.GnuCash
>
> I think Linux Mint includes flatpack by default, so it may just be as
> simple as
> flatpak install flathub org.gnucash.GnuCash
> flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash
>
> Of course, backup your accounts files, config etc first, so you can go
> back to 2.6 should you need to.
>


On Ubuntu 18.04 I did
sudo apt install flatpak
sudo flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists flathub
https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo

sudo flatpak install flathub org.gnucash.GnuCash
flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash

Then can right click - add to favourites to keep it in the launcher.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Les]

I have a test laptop running LM 19.  I installed the GC 3.2 unsing 
Flatpac and it went without a hitch.  However, there was no support for 
obtaining quotes for stocks or currencies, even though F::Q 1.47 was 
installed and with an AlphaVantage key in the environment.


I am still using LM 18.2 on my production laptop running GC 2.6.21 which 
was installed using Snap.


Les


On 07/28/2018 04:28 AM, Plutocrat wrote:

The state of Gnucash in Ubuntu is not a happy one. Its packages are inherited 
from Debian, and for whatever reason, they've been lagging behind. I've tried 
to suggest upgrading a couple of times but to no avail, although one person did 
suggest that if I couched it as a Bug (i.e. version 3.2 fixes a lot of bugs) 
then I'd stand a better chance.

There is a version 3.2 coming through in Debian unstable. Seems like it might 
make it into 18.10, but that wouldn't get it into 18.04 or Mint 18.2. Getdeb 
used to be an option, but it died with no explanation last September. There was 
also an Ubuntu PPA which died. I offered my services to try compiling 3.2 but 
received no response.

It seems like perhaps your best option is one recently suggested on this list, 
which is to uninstall your current version and install the flatpack version, (a 
sort of app container, which includes all the dependencies). I installed this 
on a spare laptop, and it seemed to work and opened my 2.6 file without issue, 
but I haven't really kicked the tyres on it.
https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnucash.GnuCash

I think Linux Mint includes flatpack by default, so it may just be as simple as
flatpak install flathub org.gnucash.GnuCash
flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash

Of course, backup your accounts files, config etc first, so you can go back to 
2.6 should you need to.

P.


gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote on Saturday, 28 July, 2018 03:05 PM:

Subject:
[GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2
From:
"Shabuboy.joy" 
Date:
Sat, 28 Jul 2018 01:11:08 -0500 (CDT)
I just migrated from Quicken to Gnucash. Loving it so far!

The question i have is: Will Gnucash 3.2 be available for Linux Mint 18.2?
The software manager installed 2.6.12
i did the apt update and upgrade and still same version is listed.

i also tried the getweb but got the same version, at least it told me the
same version was installed already.

I see the new version can be built from the source, but I am far from being
a Linux expert and never done that before.

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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[David Cousens]

Colin,
My take on that is that it is an issue with the flatpak maintainers for
GnuCash not having built the flatpak version with the required database
support. Ned Richards does not seem to be contactable directly and the
last commit was 4/7/18. Until he or the other maintainer responds there
is little anyone can do apart from fork their repository and add the
additional support. Looking at the files there, they look like they are
a few files specific to gnucash that feed into the system for building
tha flatpaks.
 It may be easier to build V3.2 with that support from the source code.
I tried to cover it in the instructions on the wiki using the notes
that were previously there but I don't use the sql backends at all so i
haven't been able to check whether they did cover everything. I'm
currently setting up to build Gnucash on Linux Mint 19 and am finding a
few dependencies I had missed  because they were already installed on
my previous system before I started buidling GnuCash.
David Cousens

On Sat, 2018-07-28 at 08:26 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
> On 28 July 2018 at 08:06, David Cousens 
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2018-07-28 at 01:11 -0500, Shabuboy.joy wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > I just migrated from Quicken to Gnucash. Loving it so far!
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > The question i have is: Will Gnucash 3.2 be available for Linux
> > Mint
> > 
> > > 18.2?
> > 
> > > The software manager installed 2.6.12
> > 
> > > i did the apt update and upgrade and still same version is
> > listed.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The software version installed by the Software Manager in LM is
> > usually
> > 
> > determined by the current version available when the the LM version
> > was
> > 
> > released or produced. Short answer is no from the Software Manager
> > for
> > 
> > 18.2. Alternatives are to upgrade to Linux Mint 19 (Tara) where
> > GnuCash
> > 
> >  v3.2 is available as a flatpak from the software manager
> 
> The flatpak version 3.2 can be installed in Ubuntu, but there are
> some bugs against that, which so far do not appear to be getting
> attention, such ashttps://github.com/flathub/org.gnucash.GnuCash/issu
> es/17
> Colin
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Colin Law]

On 28 July 2018 at 08:06, David Cousens  wrote:

> On Sat, 2018-07-28 at 01:11 -0500, Shabuboy.joy wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just migrated from Quicken to Gnucash. Loving it so far!
> >
> > The question i have is: Will Gnucash 3.2 be available for Linux Mint
> > 18.2?
> > The software manager installed 2.6.12
> > i did the apt update and upgrade and still same version is listed.
>
> The software version installed by the Software Manager in LM is usually
> determined by the current version available when the the LM version was
> released or produced. Short answer is no from the Software Manager for
> 18.2. Alternatives are to upgrade to Linux Mint 19 (Tara) where GnuCash
>  v3.2 is available as a flatpak from the software manager


The flatpak version 3.2 can be installed in Ubuntu, but there are some bugs
against that, which so far do not appear to be getting attention, such as
https://github.com/flathub/org.gnucash.GnuCash/issues/17

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[David Cousens]

You should find a Gnucash (flathub) version in the LM 18 repository as
well. That is V 3.2 and works well. I run it on a laptop under LM18.3

David
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[David Cousens]

On Sat, 2018-07-28 at 01:11 -0500, Shabuboy.joy wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just migrated from Quicken to Gnucash. Loving it so far!
> 
> The question i have is: Will Gnucash 3.2 be available for Linux Mint
> 18.2?
> The software manager installed 2.6.12
> i did the apt update and upgrade and still same version is listed.

The software version installed by the Software Manager in LM is usually
determined by the current version available when the the LM version was
released or produced. Short answer is no from the Software Manager for
18.2. Alternatives are to upgrade to Linux Mint 19 (Tara) where GnuCash
 v3.2 is available as a flatpak from the software manager or to build
GnuCash V3.2 from the sources (see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/BuildU
buntu16.04#Build_Gnucash for detailed instructions originally written
for LM18.3/Ubuntu16.04). I tried to make it complete and user friendly
but may still have missed a few points and is currently upgraded
whenever issues come to my or other user's attention. The dependencies
listed there may not be totally complete as it may have missed packages
on my system that were installed prior to building v3.2 on LM 18.3. I
am currently setting up to build on LM 19 after a clean LM 19 install. 

In any case when you run cmake it checks for all required dependencies
and will stop and display an error indicating which packages are not
installed. If you then install the package it bombed out on and then
run cmake again it will find the next missing package. Repeat until
cmake completes successfully then do the build and install as
described. If you have any problems come back to the forum.
> 
> i also tried the getweb but got the same version, at least it told me
> the
> same version was installed already.
> 
> I see the new version can be built from the source, but I am far from
> being
> a Linux expert and never done that before.

It is not as daunting as it looks at first.

> 
> I also have a MacOS running the 3.2 version, so wanted to match both
> version
> on both systems in order to avoid possible bugs between the different
> releases.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 

Good luck

David cousens
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