Re: [GNC] Plot Size on Piechart reports
Op donderdag 15 augustus 2019 06:52:45 CEST schreef David T.: > Geert, > > I was beginning to understand this point as well. Not that it makes > sense in any way. Why would a user choose to define an image along with > its accompanying text box by pixel? I appreciate your user perspective on this and I can see the usefulness of strictly defining only the plot size in some way. While obvious from the outside it's unfortunately much less so when trying to implement this. Assuming we define the plot size only, then where should the legend be rendered ? On-screen you could argue the canvas size is infinite so it can go next to the plot even beyond the borders of the window. But what should happen with it when printed ? Note the choice for pixels is historical. Nowadays people are more interested in millimeters or inches. That adds the challenge of getting proper screen resolutions from the system to convert this back to pixels on-screen. And there are plenty more technical challenges. I believe most likely all can be solved, but it requires some thorough analysis of the report use cases, wishes and constraints. > Further: the setting is "Plot width" > --and not "Width of pie and accompanying text box" or something equally > dense but accurate. "Plot" to me means "the image portion of this report." > I presume "Plot width" was the most dense the original author of that code could come up with a long time ago. Or originally there were no legends for the charts. Or we have changed chart rendering engines three times by now (and four times soon). Perhaps the original rendering engine did it differently. > I won't even go into the odd ways that these reports get jammed into a > multi column report, since I can't begin to understand what the various > factor are there. Suffice to say the result is not predictable or expected. > > Now that I understand the idiosyncrasy, I will let the matter drop. > Maybe someday someone will investigate an improved method for rendering > these reports It will first require someone to clearly describe the exact requirements of such an improved method of rendering. Feel free to focus your thoughts in an enhancement request! Geert ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Plot Size on Piechart reports
Geert, I was beginning to understand this point as well. Not that it makes sense in any way. Why would a user choose to define an image along with its accompanying text box by pixel? Further: the setting is "Plot width" --and not "Width of pie and accompanying text box" or something equally dense but accurate. "Plot" to me means "the image portion of this report." I won't even go into the odd ways that these reports get jammed into a multi column report, since I can't begin to understand what the various factor are there. Suffice to say the result is not predictable or expected. Now that I understand the idiosyncrasy, I will let the matter drop. Maybe someday someone will investigate an improved method for rendering these reports Thanks, David T. On 8/14/2019 6:44 PM, Geert Janssens wrote: Your screenshot doesn't show this, but did you report also display a legend ? I believe the legend and chart together are fitted into the dimensions you set. If the text in the legend varies from report to report, that my explain why the charts themselves vary as well. Geert Op dinsdag 13 augustus 2019 10:47:43 CEST schreef David T. via gnucash-user: I'm pretty sure that this code isn't making sizing decisions based on readability-- at least not in my experience. It is perfectly happy to cram huge amounts of data into tiny on screen areas... Percentages default to 100%, but remember previously stored values. On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 13:24, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I could see how more actual slices (regardless of how many accounts were chosen) would maybe trigger a larger size than a really small one specified for readability. But still, that should be only a default behavior and should not override a specified size. I think yes, the percentage is based on the width of the ???printable??? area of the report. (and it looks like the default is 100% or else it just remembers what I used last) Regards, Adrien On Aug 13, 2019, at 2:45 AM, David T. wrote: I will try using percentages, although why a percentage (based off what? Window dimensions?) would be more reliable is beyond my ability to comprehend. As for number of slices, they all are set to the same value; it's just that the number of matching accounts is limited. Again, why that would affect overall pie size goes beyond my comprehension. David ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Plot Size on Piechart reports
Your screenshot doesn't show this, but did you report also display a legend ? I believe the legend and chart together are fitted into the dimensions you set. If the text in the legend varies from report to report, that my explain why the charts themselves vary as well. Geert Op dinsdag 13 augustus 2019 10:47:43 CEST schreef David T. via gnucash-user: > I'm pretty sure that this code isn't making sizing decisions based on > readability-- at least not in my experience. It is perfectly happy to cram > huge amounts of data into tiny on screen areas... Percentages default to > 100%, but remember previously stored values. > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 13:24, Adrien > Monteleone wrote: I could see how more > actual slices (regardless of how many accounts were chosen) would maybe > trigger a larger size than a really small one specified for readability. > But still, that should be only a default behavior and should not override a > specified size. > > I think yes, the percentage is based on the width of the ‘printable’ area of > the report. (and it looks like the default is 100% or else it just > remembers what I used last) > > Regards, > Adrien > > > On Aug 13, 2019, at 2:45 AM, David T. wrote: > > > > I will try using percentages, although why a percentage (based off what? > > Window dimensions?) would be more reliable is beyond my ability to > > comprehend. > > > > > > As for number of slices, they all are set to the same value; it's just > > that the number of matching accounts is limited. Again, why that would > > affect overall pie size goes beyond my comprehension. > > > > > > David > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Plot Size on Piechart reports
I'm pretty sure that this code isn't making sizing decisions based on readability-- at least not in my experience. It is perfectly happy to cram huge amounts of data into tiny on screen areas... Percentages default to 100%, but remember previously stored values. On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 13:24, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I could see how more actual slices (regardless of how many accounts were chosen) would maybe trigger a larger size than a really small one specified for readability. But still, that should be only a default behavior and should not override a specified size. I think yes, the percentage is based on the width of the ‘printable’ area of the report. (and it looks like the default is 100% or else it just remembers what I used last) Regards, Adrien > On Aug 13, 2019, at 2:45 AM, David T. wrote: > > I will try using percentages, although why a percentage (based off what? > Window dimensions?) would be more reliable is beyond my ability to > comprehend. > > > As for number of slices, they all are set to the same value; it's just that > the number of matching accounts is limited. Again, why that would affect > overall pie size goes beyond my comprehension. > > > David > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Plot Size on Piechart reports
I could see how more actual slices (regardless of how many accounts were chosen) would maybe trigger a larger size than a really small one specified for readability. But still, that should be only a default behavior and should not override a specified size. I think yes, the percentage is based on the width of the ‘printable’ area of the report. (and it looks like the default is 100% or else it just remembers what I used last) Regards, Adrien > On Aug 13, 2019, at 2:45 AM, David T. wrote: > > I will try using percentages, although why a percentage (based off what? > Window dimensions?) would be more reliable is beyond my ability to > comprehend. > > > As for number of slices, they all are set to the same value; it's just that > the number of matching accounts is limited. Again, why that would affect > overall pie size goes beyond my comprehension. > > > David > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Plot Size on Piechart reports
I will try using percentages, although why a percentage (based off what? Window dimensions?) would be more reliable is beyond my ability to comprehend. As for number of slices, they all are set to the same value; it's just that the number of matching accounts is limited. Again, why that would affect overall pie size goes beyond my comprehension. David On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:36, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I could understand why a chart with more slices might default to a larger size, but it appears the bottom two charts both have 3 slices, yet are different sizes. However, since they are set to all be the same size, they should all be the same size. What happens if you use the percentage option instead of pixels? Regards, Adrien > On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:43 AM, David T. via gnucash-user > wrote: > > ___ ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Plot Size on Piechart reports
I could understand why a chart with more slices might default to a larger size, but it appears the bottom two charts both have 3 slices, yet are different sizes. However, since they are set to all be the same size, they should all be the same size. What happens if you use the percentage option instead of pixels? Regards, Adrien > On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:43 AM, David T. via gnucash-user > wrote: > > ___ ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Plot Size on Piechart reports
Dang. New mail client ate my screen shot! Next try... On 8/12/2019 9:07 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote: Hello, The attached screen shot shows three iterations of a standard Piechart. Each has its own set of accounts and slices, but each is set to plot its chart to the same 485 by 240 dimensions--and yet, each one is clearly a different size! While the first is an Expense piechart, I believe that they all use the same base Scheme code. And that doesn't explain why the two different Income Charts (Primary and Cap Gains) are sized differently. Does anyone know why this is happening, and what might be done to get three identically-sized pie charts? David ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
