Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[Gyle McCollam]

Already did a rfe in bug tracker,  thanks



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 Original message 
From: Vincent Dawans 
Date: 5/6/23 2:56 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: AC 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

I personally think it would be easier to keep track of enhancement requests
via the bug tracking system. https://bugs.gnucash.org/

You can select "enhancement" under the "severity" option when creating a
"bug". Also it helps to start the description with  "RFE:" which stands for
"request for enhancement" to make it easier to search or more obvious this
is not a "bug".

Because enhancements can take years to implement (if ever) due to time and
resource constraints, I feel we lose a lot of valuable feedback in terms of
use case and functionality when it is only discussed in the mailing list.
It doesn't mean it cannot be discussed here to try to get more users to
provide feedback, but then important points or conclusions should be posted
as comments in the bug database so that they can be referred to easily even
years later. I certainly try to do that with my own comments and see others
do as well.

As for the 2 ideas in this thread:
- the undo feature (beyond the cancel). There is already an RFE for this
here https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509267 so it would be good to
review what's already there and put new ideas, which can be discussed there
or here in the mailing list
- the original search and replace. A quick search doesn't return anything.
There is a somewhat related one but it's not quite the same
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680764 So possibly creating a new
RFE there and try to get people to react to it by posting here on the
mailing list?


On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 11:36 AM AC  wrote:

> I'm a bit disappointed that this thread went off in a different
> direction and never addressed actual search and replace.
>
> Is it even on the roadmap or do I still have to resort to butchering the
> XML file?
>
> On 2023-04-29 10:58, Stan Brown wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 2023-04-29 08:32, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> >> On your second point, there’s also  menu option Transaction-> Cancel>
> Transaction to undo any unwanted changes.
> >
> > I was unaware that this existed. The description in the help manual
> > makes it sound just like clicking Delete on an unfinished transaction.
> >
> > By experiment I found that Cancel Transaction doesn't do anything on a
> > transaction that has been committed with the Enter key. Is that the only
> > difference between Cancel and Delete, or are there others?
> >
>
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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[Vincent Dawans]

I personally think it would be easier to keep track of enhancement requests
via the bug tracking system. https://bugs.gnucash.org/

You can select "enhancement" under the "severity" option when creating a
"bug". Also it helps to start the description with  "RFE:" which stands for
"request for enhancement" to make it easier to search or more obvious this
is not a "bug".

Because enhancements can take years to implement (if ever) due to time and
resource constraints, I feel we lose a lot of valuable feedback in terms of
use case and functionality when it is only discussed in the mailing list.
It doesn't mean it cannot be discussed here to try to get more users to
provide feedback, but then important points or conclusions should be posted
as comments in the bug database so that they can be referred to easily even
years later. I certainly try to do that with my own comments and see others
do as well.

As for the 2 ideas in this thread:
- the undo feature (beyond the cancel). There is already an RFE for this
here https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509267 so it would be good to
review what's already there and put new ideas, which can be discussed there
or here in the mailing list
- the original search and replace. A quick search doesn't return anything.
There is a somewhat related one but it's not quite the same
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680764 So possibly creating a new
RFE there and try to get people to react to it by posting here on the
mailing list?


On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 11:36 AM AC  wrote:

> I'm a bit disappointed that this thread went off in a different
> direction and never addressed actual search and replace.
>
> Is it even on the roadmap or do I still have to resort to butchering the
> XML file?
>
> On 2023-04-29 10:58, Stan Brown wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 2023-04-29 08:32, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> >> On your second point, there’s also  menu option Transaction-> Cancel>
> Transaction to undo any unwanted changes.
> >
> > I was unaware that this existed. The description in the help manual
> > makes it sound just like clicking Delete on an unfinished transaction.
> >
> > By experiment I found that Cancel Transaction doesn't do anything on a
> > transaction that has been committed with the Enter key. Is that the only
> > difference between Cancel and Delete, or are there others?
> >
>
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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[AC]

I'm a bit disappointed that this thread went off in a different 
direction and never addressed actual search and replace.


Is it even on the roadmap or do I still have to resort to butchering the 
XML file?


On 2023-04-29 10:58, Stan Brown wrote:



On 2023-04-29 08:32, Gyle McCollam wrote:

On your second point, there’s also  menu option Transaction-> Cancel> 
Transaction to undo any unwanted changes.


I was unaware that this existed. The description in the help manual
makes it sound just like clicking Delete on an unfinished transaction.

By experiment I found that Cancel Transaction doesn't do anything on a
transaction that has been committed with the Enter key. Is that the only
difference between Cancel and Delete, or are there others?



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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[Stan Brown]

On 2023-04-29 08:32, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> On your second point, there’s also  menu option Transaction-> Cancel> 
> Transaction to undo any unwanted changes.

I was unaware that this existed. The description in the help manual
makes it sound just like clicking Delete on an unfinished transaction.

By experiment I found that Cancel Transaction doesn't do anything on a
transaction that has been committed with the Enter key. Is that the only
difference between Cancel and Delete, or are there others?

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[Gyle McCollam]

John,
I see said the blind man as he felt the elephant's trunk or Can't see the 
forest for the trees.  Yes, just like that one!  My apologies.  However, my 
buttons aren't as colorful as yours.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: john 
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 12:21 PM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: dev...@asia.com ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Search and Replace



> On Apr 29, 2023, at 8:32 AM, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
> On my 2nd point, thank you so much, cancel works just fine.  I wish there was 
> a toolbar button so I wouldn't forget it is available, but you can't have 
> everything.
>

You mean like this one?

Regards,
John Ralls
[cid:9e0b0110-2779-43ee-9136-2b43493a6372@namprd10.prod.outlook.com]
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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[john]

> On Apr 29, 2023, at 8:32 AM, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
> 
> On my 2nd point, thank you so much, cancel works just fine.  I wish there was 
> a toolbar button so I wouldn't forget it is available, but you can't have 
> everything.
> 

You mean like this one?

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[Gyle McCollam]

On my 2nd point, thank you so much, cancel works just fine.  I wish there was a 
toolbar button so I wouldn't forget it is available, but you can't have 
everything.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of dev...@asia.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 10:09 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Search and Replace


On your second point, there’s also  menu option Transaction-> Cancel 
Transaction to undo any unwanted changes.

Cheers.

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From: Gyle McCollam 
To: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
Subject: [GNC] Search and Replace
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Now that V5.0 offers choices when you start typing in the description, I find 
errors in spelling and other differences in the way I've entered names.  I try 
to clean these up, but sometimes there are n excess of a hundred, because they 
were repeated when earlier versions showed suggestions.  In order to eliminate 
V5.0 offering this bad spelling along with the proper spelling the incorrect 
spelling needs to be changed.  It would be helpful if Gnucash offer a llokup 
and replace function.  I haven't found one, am I missing it or doesn't it 
exist.  If not I will suggest it for a future enhancement.

While on the subject of enhancements, It would be helpful to have an undo and 
redo function as in Libre Office and many other spreadsheet programs.  I have 
sometimes accidentally changed a transaction or eliminated what is in a field 
and would like to exit the transaction with no changes.  Is there a way to do 
that now?


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[Glenn Fowler]

What I have found useful is to turn off auto-save and enable the timeout on
"save changes on closing".  This allows to easily save changes or revert on
closing.
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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[devaps]

On your second point, there’s also  menu option Transaction-> Cancel 
Transaction to undo any unwanted changes. 

Cheers. 

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From: Gyle McCollam 
To: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
Subject: [GNC] Search and Replace
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Now that V5.0 offers choices when you start typing in the description, I find 
errors in spelling and other differences in the way I've entered names.  I try 
to clean these up, but sometimes there are n excess of a hundred, because they 
were repeated when earlier versions showed suggestions.  In order to eliminate 
V5.0 offering this bad spelling along with the proper spelling the incorrect 
spelling needs to be changed.  It would be helpful if Gnucash offer a llokup 
and replace function.  I haven't found one, am I missing it or doesn't it 
exist.  If not I will suggest it for a future enhancement.

While on the subject of enhancements, It would be helpful to have an undo and 
redo function as in Libre Office and many other spreadsheet programs.  I have 
sometimes accidentally changed a transaction or eliminated what is in a field 
and would like to exit the transaction with no changes.  Is there a way to do 
that now?


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[edodd]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 00:18:56 +
Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> While on the subject of enhancements, It would be helpful to have an
> undo and redo function as in Libre Office and many other spreadsheet
> programs.  I have sometimes accidentally changed a transaction or
> eliminated what is in a field and would like to exit the transaction
> with no changes.  Is there a way to do that now?
> 

The way I do that is to exit without saving.
Then reopen.

However, I don't use autosave, and save after each "batch" of work
because I've been doing that since before autosave. So if I mess
something up I can sort that out, with some good idea of when I last
saved my data.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[David Carlson]

Regarding search and replace, I wouldn't want to get too aggressive with
that in existing transactions, especially reconciled transactions.   It
could easily overwrite intentional spelling choices.  However, I would also
like to only have a limited selection of choices for new transaction s,
preferably correctly spelled, unless I use a lot acronyms meaningful to
only a very select audience.
Not knowing how to decide which suggestion s would be good, I don't see a
good way prevent bad choices from being included unless the user creates a
custom dictionary. That could get very cumbersome.

On the second idea, I would love to have an undo/redo feature similar to
the one in the office suites.

On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, 7:19 PM Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> Now that V5.0 offers choices when you start typing in the description, I
> find errors in spelling and other differences in the way I've entered
> names.  I try to clean these up, but sometimes there are n excess of a
> hundred, because they were repeated when earlier versions showed
> suggestions.  In order to eliminate V5.0 offering this bad spelling along
> with the proper spelling the incorrect spelling needs to be changed.  It
> would be helpful if Gnucash offer a llokup and replace function.  I haven't
> found one, am I missing it or doesn't it exist.  If not I will suggest it
> for a future enhancement.
>
> While on the subject of enhancements, It would be helpful to have an undo
> and redo function as in Libre Office and many other spreadsheet programs.
> I have sometimes accidentally changed a transaction or eliminated what is
> in a field and would like to exit the transaction with no changes.  Is
> there a way to do that now?
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> gmccol...@live.com   email
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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[Jamestk]

John Ralls-2 wrote
> On Sep 21, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Jamestk 

> davidjamestk@.co

>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello folks, just a quick check to see if this feature has been added,
>> been a
>> while with quite a few updates in between.
> 
> If you mean bulk editing, no it hasn't and it isn't likely to be until
> we've converted GnuCash to a full database application. That will take
> many more years.
> 
> Regards,
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Thanks John, not important really, plenty of small workarounds but wanted to
check anyway.

Keep up the great work.

Thanks again,

David



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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[John Ralls]

On Sep 21, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Jamestk  wrote:
> 
> Hello folks, just a quick check to see if this feature has been added, been a
> while with quite a few updates in between.

If you mean bulk editing, no it hasn't and it isn't likely to be until we've 
converted GnuCash to a full database application. That will take many more 
years.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Search and Replace

[Jamestk]

Hello folks, just a quick check to see if this feature has been added, been a
while with quite a few updates in between.

Thank you



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