Re: [GNC] Your confirmation is required to join the gnucash-user mailing list
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[GNC] Starting a new topic in the mailing list
Re-sending because I failed to observe best practice in subject lines myself. Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com On 2023-06-17 15:37, Stan Brown wrote: > Bill, > > Please don't reply to a digest without doing proper editing. > > In your case, unless I missed it, you're not even replying, just > starting a new thread. In that case, you should delete the entire text > of the digest message. > > And whether replying or starting a new topic, please us an appropriate > subject line. Many of us get hundreds of emails a day, and a subject > line like "Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 243, Issue 24" doesn't > give any useful indication of what's in the message. > > I don't use the trading features, so I can't comment on those, but I > suspect you'll need to give some more details to get a useful response. > > Stan Brown > Tehachapi, CA, USA > https://BrownMath.com > > On 2023-06-17 14:19, Bill Swanson wrote: >> The number of shares for some of the mutual funds does not show up on the >> Account Totals. I am using SQLIte for the database. >> How can I fix this? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Mailing list options (was Re: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 90)
I got it because digest is turned off but I get the stray one. I certainly did get the request to not use it as the subject of a reply: however, Robert was giving someone instructions on registering and/or adjusting their options so I went to check mine. One of the options seems to indicate you can limit the topics you receive and should probably be deleted from the options list. By the way, I use gmail and am able to choose reply all. I do routinely just delete subjects that don’t interest me. Had a senior moment and couldn’t figure how to reply to Robert in a new thread. DUH, Guess copy/paste might have worked… Thanks for sticking up for me Liz. > On Aug 31, 2022, at 8:19 PM, Liz Dodd wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:48:41 -0700 > Stan Brown wrote: > >>> On 2022-08-31 15:15, Phyllis Bruce wrote: >>> Robert, I am not interested in any of the business accounting or >>> stock accounting questions. I followed your instructions to change >>> my options which were already set as you suggested. However, I was >>> unable to find a list of topics to limit what I will receive, or a >>> way to enter said topics once I find the list. >> >> Please don't use the digest title as a subject line. > > Phyllis has not been a person who has used the digest, nor used the > digest title as a subject line. > > I'm not sure how she got tangled up in this thread. > > Liz > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Mailing list options (was Re: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 90)
On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:48:41 -0700 Stan Brown wrote: > On 2022-08-31 15:15, Phyllis Bruce wrote: > > Robert, I am not interested in any of the business accounting or > > stock accounting questions. I followed your instructions to change > > my options which were already set as you suggested. However, I was > > unable to find a list of topics to limit what I will receive, or a > > way to enter said topics once I find the list. > > Please don't use the digest title as a subject line. Phyllis has not been a person who has used the digest, nor used the digest title as a subject line. I'm not sure how she got tangled up in this thread. Liz _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Mailing list options (was Re: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 90)
Usenet doesn't exist for a large swath of users as ISPs have dropped access to it. Though if it ever was resurrected, I would prefer it too. In the meantime, I'm accessing the list via Gmane. (which reminds me, I am seriously derelict in writing up a How To on the Wiki) Regards, Adrien On 8/31/22 6:48 PM, Stan Brown wrote: This kind of filtering would be child's play in Usenet. I've never understood the objections to that approach, but they exist so I'm not attempting to reopen the question here. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Mailing list options (was Re: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 90)
On 2022-08-31 15:15, Phyllis Bruce wrote: > Robert, I am not interested in any of the business accounting or > stock accounting questions. I followed your instructions to change my > options which were already set as you suggested. However, I was > unable to find a list of topics to limit what I will receive, or a way > to enter said topics once I find the list. Please don't use the digest title as a subject line. The mailing list doesn't offer that kind of granularity, Phyllis. (It's pretty standard 1980s or 1990s vintage mailing list software, from what I can tell.) There couldn't be "a list of topics to limit what I will receive", because there's no way to predict what subject lines people will use -- also, of course, because unfortunately a lot of people use the digest title as a subject line, so there's no way to know what's in the message without reading it. If you set digest off, each message will be separate, and your own mail program will probably let you filter out threads you don't want to see. This kind of filtering would be child's play in Usenet. I've never understood the objections to that approach, but they exist so I'm not attempting to reopen the question here. Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best practices for mailing list
> Please help to keep the mailing list useful. +1! — Enneco-Gotzon Ares ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Best practices for mailing list
Please help to keep the mailing list useful. 1. If you're starting a new topic, just start it. Don't quote anything. 2. If you're answering a question or commenting on something somebody wrote, trim away _everything_ except what you're responding to, and the line that says who write it. Never quote a whole issue of the digest. 3. Always use helpful and specific subject lines, not something like "gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 90". Thanks! Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com On 2022-08-31 10:43, James Baxter via gnucash-user wrote: > Gnucash to do with buying stocks > Ok, So stocks are called tickers. (I Think) So when enter tthem into Gnucash. > when the cost or price goes up. Does this happen with them on Gnucash. > If so, How do you place it on the srceen. I have been reading about them of > this. but I don't see how this happens. > thanksJames baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com (155 completely irrelevant lines trimmed) _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Ineffective Mailing List Searching
I raised this issue because despite asking users to search the mailing lists this demonstrates the provided searches have little value. I followed mailing list search instructions - https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user (note Nabble is inoperational and the only other search is Google.ca). I agree, that search returns quite a few results - only 3 since 2013. Again, no results are returned with a filter of the last year, despite Chris Good linking to one from this month. This mailing list runs on MailMan version 2.1.29 but MailMan V3 (released many years ago) has a lot of new features including improved searching (and replying). I raised MailMan V3 in April '20 for a different issue but it is not a priority - https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797702#c4 > https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2021-August/097501.html > Regarding your search: I get results from: https://www.google.com/search?q=franking+site%3Agnucash.org > > I'm not sure why Google.ca would have different results, or whether my broader site designation draws in more. Mind you, they're older than the previous year, but this discussion has occurred. > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2021-August/097500.html >> btw, Google search isn't returning anything for Franking over the last year: https://www.google.ca/search?q=site:lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user+franking=lnt=qdr:ybih=1003 <https://www.google.ca/search?q=site:lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user+franking=lnt=qdr:y=1003> _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Nabble interface to the GnuCash mailing List
Someone named Israel in the Nabble list fixed mine about 2 weeks ago -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Nabble interface to the GnuCash mailing List
For those who use the Nabble web interface to the GNuCash mailing lists even though it is not supported officially by the GnuCash community, it does now appear to be functioning normally and you can post to the lists and access the lists from it again. David - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Removing myself from this mailing list
I’d wager tht Ray is subscribed through “Nabble”. Ray, you should unsubscribe frmo the Nabble. > On May 26, 2019, at 6:55 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: > > indeed. > The email address "ray.bergm...@yandex.com" is not subscribed to any > gnucash email address. > -derek > > On Sun, May 26, 2019 9:07 am, Kenneth Schneider wrote: >> Then you’re not using the email used to subscribe to the email list. Do >> you use other email addresses? Verify that the email address in the header >> is the one you use. >> >> Ken Schneider >> >>> On May 25, 2019, at 11:12 PM, Ray Bergmann >>> wrote: >>> >>> It doesn't work, Ken! The page where one is supposed to UNSUBSCRIBE says >>> "If you are a list member, a confirmation email has been sent." However >>> I am not a list member, and so NO CONFIRMATION EMAIL EVER ARRIVES! My >>> email address ray.bergm...@yandex.com is condemned to be innunated with >>> hundreds of GNU messages with no way of stopping them!. No way to >>> unsubscribe from a list I'm apparently no a member of >>> >>> Ray Bergmann >>> >>> 12.03.2019, 02:14, "Ken Schneider" : >>> On 3/11/19 10:45 AM, Clair Garman wrote: >>> >>> How can I remove myself from this mailing list?? >>> >>> This is at the bottom of most emails i get from the list. Just click on >>> the link. >>> >>> >>> __ >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> >>> Ken >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >>> - >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > > -- > Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 > de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com > Computer and Internet Security Consultant > > _______ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Removing myself from this mailing list
indeed. The email address "ray.bergm...@yandex.com" is not subscribed to any gnucash email address. -derek On Sun, May 26, 2019 9:07 am, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > Then you’re not using the email used to subscribe to the email list. Do > you use other email addresses? Verify that the email address in the header > is the one you use. > > Ken Schneider > >> On May 25, 2019, at 11:12 PM, Ray Bergmann >> wrote: >> >> It doesn't work, Ken! The page where one is supposed to UNSUBSCRIBE says >> "If you are a list member, a confirmation email has been sent." However >> I am not a list member, and so NO CONFIRMATION EMAIL EVER ARRIVES! My >> email address ray.bergm...@yandex.com is condemned to be innunated with >> hundreds of GNU messages with no way of stopping them!. No way to >> unsubscribe from a list I'm apparently no a member of >> >> Ray Bergmann >> >> 12.03.2019, 02:14, "Ken Schneider" : >> On 3/11/19 10:45 AM, Clair Garman wrote: >> >> How can I remove myself from this mailing list?? >> >> This is at the bottom of most emails i get from the list. Just click on >> the link. >> >> >>__ >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> >> Ken >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Removing myself from this mailing list
Then you’re not using the email used to subscribe to the email list. Do you use other email addresses? Verify that the email address in the header is the one you use. Ken Schneider > On May 25, 2019, at 11:12 PM, Ray Bergmann wrote: > > It doesn't work, Ken! The page where one is supposed to UNSUBSCRIBE says "If > you are a list member, a confirmation email has been sent." However I am not > a list member, and so NO CONFIRMATION EMAIL EVER ARRIVES! My email address > ray.bergm...@yandex.com is condemned to be innunated with hundreds of GNU > messages with no way of stopping them!. No way to unsubscribe from a list I'm > apparently no a member of > > Ray Bergmann > > 12.03.2019, 02:14, "Ken Schneider" : > On 3/11/19 10:45 AM, Clair Garman wrote: > > How can I remove myself from this mailing list?? > > This is at the bottom of most emails i get from the list. Just click on > the link. > > >__ > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > Ken > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Removing myself from this mailing list
On 3/11/19 10:45 AM, Clair Garman wrote: How can I remove myself from this mailing list?? This is at the bottom of most emails i get from the list. Just click on the link. __ To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user Ken ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Removing myself from this mailing list
Seriously. Read the bottom of the message and follow the instructions. On March 11, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Clair Garman wrote: How can I remove myself from this mailing list?? -- __ ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Test email to Mailing List: I've been having Issues Sending to list
Hi I see it. Maf. On Wednesday, 6 March 2019 10:32:42 GMT Gnucash Xboxboy Mageia wrote: > Hi guys, > just a test email to see if I send to the mailing list: I seem to have been > getting bounced: so I've updated my 'from' address. > > Can one or two kind souls please reply if this comes through on your end? > > Many thanks, > Xboxboy > _______ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Maf. King PGP Key fingerprint = 8D68 A91F 733B 2C1F 43B7 2B7C E591 E8E1 0DE7 C542 _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Test email to Mailing List: I've been having Issues Sending to list
Hi guys, just a test email to see if I send to the mailing list: I seem to have been getting bounced: so I've updated my 'from' address. Can one or two kind souls please reply if this comes through on your end? Many thanks, Xboxboy ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Mailing list filter no longer working
Mine is fine. Reinstall TB? (Save profile first) Cheerio Graham On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 6:30 pm elvis, wrote: > Just wondering if something changed in the list-ID, Thunderbird no > longer recognises gnucash emails > > -- > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Mailing list filter no longer working
Hi, On Fri, June 8, 2018 8:36 am, elvis wrote: > Just wondering if something changed in the list-ID, Thunderbird no > longer recognises gnucash emails AFAIK there has been no changes. Indeed, this messages says: List-Id: General Accounting Discussions HOWEVER, IMNSHO you should be using To and CC and not List-Id -- because *THIS* message (from me) will not have it since I did a Reply All so the message to you is not going through the list. > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Mailing list filter no longer working
Just wondering if something changed in the list-ID, Thunderbird no longer recognises gnucash emails -- ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] ENDED: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 09:39:36 -0400 johnny <js0...@gmail.com> wrote: > hola > > On 04/10/2018 16:20, listreader wrote: > > The prefix is EXTREMELY useful to me. So add me to the 'approve' > > side of your tally. > me too. > > and really- what is all this bitching about? 5 extra chars at the > front of an email subject ... > > humans have a great ability to not see what is right in front of > their faces. talk to some of your least favorite family members or > acquaintances if you don't believe me. so just use those skills to > ignore this filtering prefix that is widely used and appreciated and > very helpful to many of the list readers. > > thank you Thankyou johnny. The number count made further up the thread indicated that less than 1.5% of Gnucash-user mailing list members were keen for the removal of the prefix. I wish to read nothing more on this subject. Liz Moderator. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Dave H <hell...@gmail.com> writes: Hello Dave, > There is one at Nabble - http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/ ? Thanks for the info, although my comment was just a joke...usually discussion of people not happy with the mailing lists turns into suggestion to create web forum as panacea for all the problems. :-D But, we won't feed this thread any more. ;) Sincerely, Gour -- Many, many births both you and I have passed. I can remember all of them, but you cannot, O subduer of the enemy! ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Gour, There is one at Nabble - http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/ ? Cheers Dave H. On 13 April 2018 at 01:57, Saša Janiška <g...@atmarama.com> wrote: > George Riner <georgeri...@mycogeo.com> writes: > > > I also am subscribed to about 20 email lists and Gnucash was the only > > one that did *not* have bracketed tag in the subject line. > > I still haven't seen list of mailing clients which are *not* capable to > perform filtering by List-Id and if it is really such a problem, maybe > the solution is to turn mailing lists into web forum? > > > Sincerely, > Gour > > -- > As fire is covered by smoke, as a mirror is covered by dust, > or as the embryo is covered by the womb, the living entity is > similarly covered by different degrees of this lust. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
George Riner <georgeri...@mycogeo.com> writes: > I also am subscribed to about 20 email lists and Gnucash was the only > one that did *not* have bracketed tag in the subject line. I still haven't seen list of mailing clients which are *not* capable to perform filtering by List-Id and if it is really such a problem, maybe the solution is to turn mailing lists into web forum? Sincerely, Gour -- As fire is covered by smoke, as a mirror is covered by dust, or as the embryo is covered by the womb, the living entity is similarly covered by different degrees of this lust. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 07:14:36AM -0700, George Riner wrote: > I also am subscribed to about 20 email lists and Gnucash was the only one > that did *not* have bracketed tag in the subject line. +1 -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: https://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php #include ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I also am subscribed to about 20 email lists and Gnucash was the only one that did *not* have bracketed tag in the subject line. : George -- -- -- Sent by Droid. On April 12, 2018 1:34:08 AM PDT, "Saša Janiška" <g...@atmarama.com> wrote: >William Bixby <wbi...@usa.net> writes: > >> I'm surprised at the objections, as my experience is that mail lists >> adding the list ID in the subject is the 'norm' and very common. The >> few, like gnucash was, that don't are the outlier. > >I follow about 20 mailing lists and gnucash-users is the only one >having >prefix. > >For those which do not want or can't use Gmane, they ca filter either >locally or at the server level by using List-ID, so I simply do not see >the reason for this poor-man's filtering... > > >Sincerely, >Gour > >-- >While contemplating the objects of the senses, a person >develops attachment for them, and from such attachment lust >develops, and from lust anger arises. > >___ >gnucash-user mailing list >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >- >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
William Bixby <wbi...@usa.net> writes: > I'm surprised at the objections, as my experience is that mail lists > adding the list ID in the subject is the 'norm' and very common. The > few, like gnucash was, that don't are the outlier. I follow about 20 mailing lists and gnucash-users is the only one having prefix. For those which do not want or can't use Gmane, they ca filter either locally or at the server level by using List-ID, so I simply do not see the reason for this poor-man's filtering... Sincerely, Gour -- While contemplating the objects of the senses, a person develops attachment for them, and from such attachment lust develops, and from lust anger arises. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:17:59 -0500 Adrien Monteleone <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > My questions were rhetorical as I noted in a later reply to him. I > knew what his mail client was and what its abilities are. (I could > see it in the header) My point was that if he wants to ‘filter’ his > mail, he has the tools to do so and they are not difficult to use. In > fact, in his reply, he noted that he does physically filter mail into > some 80 folders with about 154 different filtering rules. He just > doesn’t *feel* like doing it with the list. 'He' is obviously me, and you are misrepresenting my words. Neither truthful nor nice, Adrien. I do indeed filter this list. It is filtered into the same folder I filter all my other mailing lists into, heck I even have a dedicated email address just for mailing lists, it just doesn't get its own folder as I prefer it that way. This is a preference not laziness. I also prefer to buy my meat at a market rather than hunt my own dinner, even though I could easily do the latter: I have 'the tools to do so and they are not difficult to use' in your words. Would you have a problem with that preference, also? The prefix addition was a GOOD change. Leave it alone. Ralph _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Adrien: You have hit the nail on the head! Given all the time given to this thread, I think it is high time to end it. It has been a hugh distraction from what this list is all about. Just my $.02 worth. Les On 04/11/2018 10:17 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I think this thread also illustrates that how people hit ‘reply/reply-all’ and to which message can break threads. So far I think it has at least 5 parts. I’d have to look at the archive page to be sure. Now we’re at a point where people are replying to broken off or stalled sections of the thread. My questions were rhetorical as I noted in a later reply to him. I knew what his mail client was and what its abilities are. (I could see it in the header) My point was that if he wants to ‘filter’ his mail, he has the tools to do so and they are not difficult to use. In fact, in his reply, he noted that he does physically filter mail into some 80 folders with about 154 different filtering rules. He just doesn’t *feel* like doing it with the list. Another user seemed to imply that his mail client could not do filtering. I found excerpts (and provided links) to the manual which described specifically how to manage mailing-list mail. Perhaps he wasn’t aware of this feature. I haven’t heard back. Seriously? Everyone has to have this tag added because *some* people either don’t know how or don’t *want* to use the features of their own e-mail client? Could you imagine what GnuCash would look like if the devs treated the app the same way? If they added (or removed) features, or re-arranged the UI simply because some people don’t *feel* like using it the way it was designed and intended to be used? On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:44 AM, johnny <js0...@gmail.com> wrote: hi On 04/10/2018 17:17, Adrien Monteleone wrote: What is your e-mail client? Can it not filter mail? Can it not tag mail? Can it not handle mailing-lists? isn't that up to each of us to decide what client to use? and how to manage our own email flows? shouldn't it be irrelevant to this discussion? or maybe this is "tech shaming" in some way to cloud the issue? (also revealing about humans that this issue generates the most traffic [although 3.0 upgrade was a big one too]) ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I think this thread also illustrates that how people hit ‘reply/reply-all’ and to which message can break threads. So far I think it has at least 5 parts. I’d have to look at the archive page to be sure. Now we’re at a point where people are replying to broken off or stalled sections of the thread. My questions were rhetorical as I noted in a later reply to him. I knew what his mail client was and what its abilities are. (I could see it in the header) My point was that if he wants to ‘filter’ his mail, he has the tools to do so and they are not difficult to use. In fact, in his reply, he noted that he does physically filter mail into some 80 folders with about 154 different filtering rules. He just doesn’t *feel* like doing it with the list. Another user seemed to imply that his mail client could not do filtering. I found excerpts (and provided links) to the manual which described specifically how to manage mailing-list mail. Perhaps he wasn’t aware of this feature. I haven’t heard back. Seriously? Everyone has to have this tag added because *some* people either don’t know how or don’t *want* to use the features of their own e-mail client? Could you imagine what GnuCash would look like if the devs treated the app the same way? If they added (or removed) features, or re-arranged the UI simply because some people don’t *feel* like using it the way it was designed and intended to be used? > On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:44 AM, johnny <js0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > hi > > > On 04/10/2018 17:17, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> What is your e-mail client? Can it not filter mail? Can it not tag mail? Can >> it not handle mailing-lists? > isn't that up to each of us to decide what client to use? and how to manage > our own email flows? shouldn't it be irrelevant to this discussion? > > or maybe this is "tech shaming" in some way to cloud the issue? > > (also revealing about humans that this issue generates the most traffic > [although 3.0 upgrade was a big one too]) > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
hi On 04/10/2018 17:17, Adrien Monteleone wrote: What is your e-mail client? Can it not filter mail? Can it not tag mail? Can it not handle mailing-lists? isn't that up to each of us to decide what client to use? and how to manage our own email flows? shouldn't it be irrelevant to this discussion? or maybe this is "tech shaming" in some way to cloud the issue? (also revealing about humans that this issue generates the most traffic [although 3.0 upgrade was a big one too]) ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
2018-04-11T08:31:28+0100 Colin Law wrote: > If we are not supposed to use Reply All then could someone please > adjust the list settings so that Reply goes back to the list and not Technically, according to some RFCs, this isn't a good idea, also see ([1]). Munging makes the direct contact with the poster lost, in case of sensitive subject, you will want to contact that person privately, and munging makes that difficult. [1] <http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html>. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
hola On 04/10/2018 16:20, listreader wrote: The prefix is EXTREMELY useful to me. So add me to the 'approve' side of your tally. me too. and really- what is all this bitching about? 5 extra chars at the front of an email subject ... humans have a great ability to not see what is right in front of their faces. talk to some of your least favorite family members or acquaintances if you don't believe me. so just use those skills to ignore this filtering prefix that is widely used and appreciated and very helpful to many of the list readers. thank you ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I'm against it too. We use [] tags at work to indicate the relevant project for an email thread, but with this mailing list gmail can use the 'gnucash-user' email to tag all mails from this thread. I would assume that many other email clients also offer such facilities. -- __̴ı ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡| ̲▫̲͡ π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l.___Patrick Byrne On 10 April 2018 at 11:34, Mark Lawrence <breamore...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 09/04/18 13:41, Stephen Albert wrote: > >> I'd also prefer [GC] over [GNC]. >> >> > I prefer nothing. The [GNC] looks quite dreadful as it is completely > unneeded. I'm on gmane.comp.gnome.apps.gnucash.user, why do I need some > stupid piece of data confirming something that I all ready know? > > -- > My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask > what you can do for our language. > > Mark Lawrence > > _______ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I also prefer keeping the subject prefix. Ray On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > Ralph, > > What is your e-mail client? Can it not filter mail? Can it not tag mail? > Can it not handle mailing-lists? > > Regards, > Adrien > > > On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:20 PM, listreader <susel...@cableone.net> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 22:00:33 +0500 > > "David T. via gnucash-user" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > > > >> I have tallied up the responses regarding subject prefixes thus far, > >> and it appears that 7 people are in favor of this change. > >> > >> In contrast, 20 people (including three of the development team) have > >> expressed negative opinions regarding this addition. [In the interest > >> of objectivity, I am one of this group.] > >> > >> It is unclear to me why such a change would be implemented based on > >> the opinions of two readers (the total number of positive replies > >> prior to implementation), and then not reverted when nearly three > >> times the number of readers expressed their objectons to it. > > > > Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means. In my > > experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes' > > they don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the > > same 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater. > > > > I subscribe to around 20 very busy mailing lists, all intentionally > > sent to the same mailbox folder so as not to interfere with all my > > other more urgent business and personal mailbox folders, and all but > > GnuCash have always used a subject prefix. (including one which uses the > > useless/annoying '[Users]' as its prefix but that is another story). > > The prefix is EXTREMELY useful to me. So add me to the 'approve' side > > of your tally. > > > > Ralph > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On 09/04/18 13:41, Stephen Albert wrote: I'd also prefer [GC] over [GNC]. I prefer nothing. The [GNC] looks quite dreadful as it is completely unneeded. I'm on gmane.comp.gnome.apps.gnucash.user, why do I need some stupid piece of data confirming something that I all ready know? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Yep, as noted earlier in the thread (and another thread some weeks ago) I don’t think that Mailman setting is working properly. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 11, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Dave H <hell...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello people, > > Please note the following as Reply All apparently has unintended > consequences. > > Cheers Dave H. > > > Hello Dave... > > Please edit the message's 'to' list before you reply to a mailing list > message. I read the list, I get the message you send to the list, I > don't need an additional copy sent directly to me when it's not even my > message you are replying to. That's just lazy. Thanks. > _______ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I can see the X-mailer header. I’m aware of Claws Mail. The questions were rhetorical, sorry. Interesting though that you have 154 filters shoveling mail into 80 folders (with 28 of them top level) yet you prefer to ‘filter’ gnucash-user without any of that... You’re right, this is ridiculous. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:10 PM, listreader <susel...@cableone.net> wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:17:55 -0500 > Adrien Monteleone <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > >> What is your e-mail client? Can it not filter mail? Can it not tag >> mail? Can it not handle mailing-lists? > > Hello Adrien... > > Mail clients are usually identified in the email header (X-mailer, > User-Agent, or etc) so I'm not sure why you are asking since mine is > right there in front of you but whatever. You can see that mine is > Claws Mail. And, yes, of course it can filter, tag, and/or handle > mailing lists. It is, in fact, likely the most configurable gui mail > client there is in any OS, though I myself hardly use it to it's maximum > capabilities. > > I'm an old timer, left over from arpanet days, so I 'live' in email > probably far more than most people nowadays. I use 3 mail servers: (1) > my cable isp, (2) a 'free mail' provider whose name doesn't start with > the letter 'g', and (3) my owned domain's mail server. > > I 'filter' at the server level, I have completely separate email > accounts for many of my contacts, a different address for each, and > where volume is low to a particular contact, I use aliases, again at > the server level. This is supplemented at the client level with 154 > additional filters (yeah, I actually just counted them for this > message), some of which have multiple if/or sub-filters, all ending up > in 28 main folders with additional sub-folders below some of those, 80 > folders in total, not counting archive and spam folders. I think > that's enough, thanks, don't need more. So I prefer to 'filter' the > mailing list folder with just my eyes. > > And this discussion is all now so ridiculously off-topic to this list's > purpose that maybe we need a new subject prefix '[GNC-OT]' for 'off > topic' discussions, so we can filter it out :-) > > Ralph > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Fwd: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Hello people, Please note the following as Reply All apparently has unintended consequences. Cheers Dave H. Hello Dave... Please edit the message's 'to' list before you reply to a mailing list message. I read the list, I get the message you send to the list, I don't need an additional copy sent directly to me when it's not even my message you are replying to. That's just lazy. Thanks. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:11:43 +0500 D <sunfis...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I am fully aware of the limitations of self-selected surveys and > their validity of gauging sentiment. I was not intending to submit my > research to any peer reviewed journals. I *will* note that the > replies to my own non-scientific survey continue to trend at about > three to one against, which, while not necessarily statistically > valid, nevertheless tends to indicate an overall negative view of the > decision. > > I am more concerned that these changes were implemented at the urging > of (at the time) a grand total of TWO individual requests, all > without any request for feedback from the rest of the readership. And > now, when it has been raised as an issue, I'm not hearing any > indication of a reversal. > > So, if I suggest that the list prefix should use emojis instead > (like, say, []), and someone (perversely) agrees with that, will > that get implemented? It is distinctive, and one third shorter than > "GNC", after all. Hello David... I personally find the Prefix VERY useful, as explained in another post, but I could if I wished simply code a pre-processing of the incoming gnucash-user emails to add a '[GNC]' to the subject if it wasn't there, probably would take me a few seconds to do so, I just never thought to do so before. Likewise, you could write a pre-process that removes the '[GNC]' on your incoming emails if you so desired, assuming your email client supports it. IMHO, this is NOT a real issue to get aggravated about. Anyway, in my 'just a user' opinion this also isn't really the way to go about it. A technical mailing list is not a democratic institution. Take it up with the mailing list administrator directly, off list, and leave the list for actual GnuCash discussions. Just my 2 and 3/4 cents (inflation, you know...) Ralph ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:17:55 -0500 Adrien Monteleone <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > What is your e-mail client? Can it not filter mail? Can it not tag > mail? Can it not handle mailing-lists? Hello Adrien... Mail clients are usually identified in the email header (X-mailer, User-Agent, or etc) so I'm not sure why you are asking since mine is right there in front of you but whatever. You can see that mine is Claws Mail. And, yes, of course it can filter, tag, and/or handle mailing lists. It is, in fact, likely the most configurable gui mail client there is in any OS, though I myself hardly use it to it's maximum capabilities. I'm an old timer, left over from arpanet days, so I 'live' in email probably far more than most people nowadays. I use 3 mail servers: (1) my cable isp, (2) a 'free mail' provider whose name doesn't start with the letter 'g', and (3) my owned domain's mail server. I 'filter' at the server level, I have completely separate email accounts for many of my contacts, a different address for each, and where volume is low to a particular contact, I use aliases, again at the server level. This is supplemented at the client level with 154 additional filters (yeah, I actually just counted them for this message), some of which have multiple if/or sub-filters, all ending up in 28 main folders with additional sub-folders below some of those, 80 folders in total, not counting archive and spam folders. I think that's enough, thanks, don't need more. So I prefer to 'filter' the mailing list folder with just my eyes. And this discussion is all now so ridiculously off-topic to this list's purpose that maybe we need a new subject prefix '[GNC-OT]' for 'off topic' discussions, so we can filter it out :-) Ralph ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
To be fair, and as I noted in another reply, not often around these parts. But I have seen it on other lists. The most likely case would be devs from other projects (maybe GTK) getting involved in a discussion on the gnucash-devel list. However, I see the dev list now has their own tag, which is quite odd since I’ve yet to see a developer chime in support of this. The ones I recognize so far are all not particularly keen on it. I sure hope no one posts to both -dev and -user for the same message. What will we get when replies start flying from and to each? Oh, I take that back, I just stopped to check that list, and it seems JohnR cross-posts release announcements to both. (And possibly -announce as well) Tick-tock... Regards, Adrien > On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:50 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> I can see how cross-posted messages would turn into tag soup if every list >> followed this behavior. > > Adrien, > > Without intending to take the thread onto a different track, how common > are corss-posted messages? Where are they cross-posted? I've not seen any, > on any mail list to which I'm subscribed. > > Rich > _______ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
My copy of that message shows Dave copied you directly, you’re probably looking at that version which is why there are no associated list headers. You don’t need three separate filters. I attached a screenshot of the rules I set way back earlier in the thread. (as have others) the tl;dr is you just set three ‘any’ conditions, one each on To, CC, and From ‘contains’ ‘gnucash-user’ then either tag or file away as desired. You could probably even manage something that pre-pends the [GNC] if you like. It’s not difficult. We’re all people using double entry accounting for crying out loud. If we can manage that, we can manage e-mail filtering and tagging. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 10, 2018, at 8:44 PM, William Bixby <wbi...@usa.net> wrote: > > Interesting, in my emails from Gnucash I do not see any headers with tags > mailing-list > mailed-by > > On most of them I see a tag > List-id > But that is not a field I can filter on from my ISP > > In this message from Dave I see my email as the to: and > Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org as the CC: but there is no List-id > > The only lists I see in my inbox today with a mailing-list tag are from > yahoo-groups. > > So the filters Dave suggests would be incomplete, a CC is also needed. > Maybe also a 'From' just to be sure? > > The emails from the list seem to have a variety of header forms, perhaps > depending on the mailers used for the reply, or the reply-to or reply-list or > reply-all forms. Seems hard to keep track of all the possibilities. > > Instead of requiring 2-3 or more filters for each list, the subject code > allows a single filter to do the job, consistently, never misses. > > On 04/10/2018 08:43 PM, Dave H wrote: >> The headers include :- >> to:Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>> >> mailing list: gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >> mailed-by: gnucash.org <http://gnucash.org> >> if those aren't sufficient to filter on what is :-) >> Cheers Dave H. >> On 11 April 2018 at 10:11, William Bixby <wbi...@usa.net >> <mailto:wbi...@usa.net>> wrote: >>Adrien, my headers for your message show this email is from you, not >>the list: >>From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net >><mailto:adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net>> >>Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) >>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:17:55 -0500 >>To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org >><mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>> >>Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix >>List-Id: General Accounting Discussions ><http://gnucash-user.gnucash.org>> >>On 04/10/2018 06:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>The mail already *is* from the list. >>This can get flubbed when people start using reply-all and >>leaving the original senders in the mix. As this continues in >>the thread, individual e-mail addresses start bouncing around >>between To and CC and the list address usually gets relegated to >>CC permanently. But it doesn’t matter because one can always set >>their filters to include To, CC and From (if not also, or >>instead, reply-to) and there should be no issue. >>There is a case for reply-all, but it involves cross-posted >>messages (to other lists) or one-off participants who aren’t >>list members. This is pretty rare here. (Occasionally you’ll see >>a message posted on both -dev and -user but not often and so >>many are on both) I don’t think I’ve seen any cross-postings to >>outside lists. On the off chance a non-member participates (with >>moderator approval) it would likely be obvious and you could >>include their personal address. >>Regards, >>Adrien >>On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Dale Alspach >><alspac...@gmail.com <mailto:alspac...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>Question for those who want the [GNC] prefix: >>Would having the email from be from the list >>(gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>) >>instead of the user (original sender) serve as well? >>This would also help with the "remember to reply to the >>list" issue. Reply, >>Reply-all, Reply-list would include the list address. >>I believe the mailing list software would still put the &g
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I stand corrected. I could have sworn it was ‘from’ the list, but alas... Regards, Adrien > On Apr 10, 2018, at 7:11 PM, William Bixby <wbi...@usa.net> wrote: > > Adrien, my headers for your message show this email is from you, not the list: > From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> > Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:17:55 -0500 > To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix > List-Id: General Accounting Discussions > > > > On 04/10/2018 06:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> The mail already *is* from the list. >> This can get flubbed when people start using reply-all and leaving the >> original senders in the mix. As this continues in the thread, individual >> e-mail addresses start bouncing around between To and CC and the list >> address usually gets relegated to CC permanently. But it doesn’t matter >> because one can always set their filters to include To, CC and From (if not >> also, or instead, reply-to) and there should be no issue. >> There is a case for reply-all, but it involves cross-posted messages (to >> other lists) or one-off participants who aren’t list members. This is pretty >> rare here. (Occasionally you’ll see a message posted on both -dev and -user >> but not often and so many are on both) I don’t think I’ve seen any >> cross-postings to outside lists. On the off chance a non-member participates >> (with moderator approval) it would likely be obvious and you could include >> their personal address. >> Regards, >> Adrien >>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Dale Alspach <alspac...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Question for those who want the [GNC] prefix: >>> Would having the email from be from the list (gnucash-user@gnucash.org) >>> instead of the user (original sender) serve as well? >>> >>> This would also help with the "remember to reply to the list" issue. Reply, >>> Reply-all, Reply-list would include the list address. >>> I believe the mailing list software would still put the original sender >>> address in the headers so that an off-list reply would be possible. >>> >>> Some view this type of address munging as being bad but I believe that in >>> the case of gnucash-user this is the de facto preference of the maintainers >>> and developers. >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, listreader wrote: >>>> >>>> Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means. In my >>>>> experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes' they >>>>> don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the same >>>>> 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Please add my vote to the neutral category. I subscribe to about a dozen >>>> mail lists, most use a list-related prefix in brackets; a couple don't. >>>> Because incoming messages are sorted into list-specific files the only time >>>> the prepended tags matter is when multiple lists cover the same topic. >>>> >>>> GnuCash is the only bookkeeping application I use so a prepended tag >>>> makes >>>> no difference to me. But, for those who don't automatically sort incoming >>>> messages it could well be helpful. >>>> >>>> If having it present does no harm there's no reason to remove it, in my >>>> opinion. If you're reading e-mail on a phone, watch, or other small device >>>> and cannot see the entire subject line you probably have the ability to >>>> scroll horizontally as well as vertically. >>>> >>>> Rich >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> gnucash-user mailing list >>>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >>>> - >>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>>> >>>
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Oh yes, I was looking at the detailed headers from my webmail version. only 4 tags displayed with details turned off, 43 header tags in detail. But no mailing-list, closest is list-id. Many of the tags are prefixed X- and appear to be tags added by the ISP's virus and spam processing or details of the message routing. examples X-Spam-Status X-Spam-Checker-Version: X-Virus-Status: X-USANET-Received X-USANET-Source X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Perhaps the ISP's Mailman translates the mailing-list tag to list-id. (and 5 other list- tags) If so, I wouldn't be surprised if other ISPs made comparable updates, so a general 'rule' to filter on mailing-list may not be as universal as suspected. No one filter plan works for all ISPs and mail agents and webmails, etc. Except for filtering by the subject line tag for the list. Hence for the preponderance of lists using subject line tags. On 04/10/2018 10:23 PM, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: 2018-04-10T21:44:15-0400 William Bixby wrote: Interesting, in my emails from Gnucash I do not see any headers with tags mailing-list mailed-by Depends on email reader software (or webmail if you use it), although good webmail also let's you inspect the message in raw form (which will of course show all header fields). On most of them I see a tag List-id But that is not a field I can filter on from my ISP In this message from Dave I see my email as the to: and Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org as the CC: but there is no List-id Note that since you don't see "List-id" it means that the email message came directly to the server of the email service provider you rely on --- that means it didn't pass over the mailing list at the time the message came to you ---, you should by now also have received a duplicated message that comes from the mailing list bouncer and which has the "List-id" header field. So the filters Dave suggests would be incomplete, a CC is also needed. Maybe also a 'From' just to be sure? The emails from the list seem to have a variety of header forms, perhaps depending on the mailers used for the reply, or the reply-to or reply-list or reply-all forms. Seems hard to keep track of all the possibilities. Instead of requiring 2-3 or more filters for each list, the subject code allows a single filter to do the job, consistently, never misses. Some filters allow you to match field names with a regular expression standard/syntax --- /e.g./: "^\(To\|Cc\|List-id\)" if they have separated space to match only the field *names*, or "^\(To\|Cc\|List-id\):.*gnucash-user@gnucash\.org" if they don't, both examples use GNU Emacs regular expressions but the email filter you use might require other syntax --- or the filter might also allow you to chain some condition checks --- /e.g./: ( To OR Cc OR List-id ) == "gnucash-user@gnucash.org". _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Bill Bixby Laconia NH _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
2018-04-10T21:44:15-0400 William Bixby wrote: > Interesting, in my emails from Gnucash I do not see any headers with tags > mailing-list > mailed-by Depends on email reader software (or webmail if you use it), although good webmail also let's you inspect the message in raw form (which will of course show all header fields). > On most of them I see a tag > List-id > But that is not a field I can filter on from my ISP > > In this message from Dave I see my email as the to: and > Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org as the CC: but there is no List-id Note that since you don't see "List-id" it means that the email message came directly to the server of the email service provider you rely on --- that means it didn't pass over the mailing list at the time the message came to you ---, you should by now also have received a duplicated message that comes from the mailing list bouncer and which has the "List-id" header field. > So the filters Dave suggests would be incomplete, a CC is also needed. > Maybe also a 'From' just to be sure? > > The emails from the list seem to have a variety of header forms, > perhaps depending on the mailers used for the reply, or the reply-to > or reply-list or reply-all forms. Seems hard to keep track of all the > possibilities. > > Instead of requiring 2-3 or more filters for each list, the subject > code allows a single filter to do the job, consistently, never misses. Some filters allow you to match field names with a regular expression standard/syntax --- /e.g./: "^\(To\|Cc\|List-id\)" if they have separated space to match only the field *names*, or "^\(To\|Cc\|List-id\):.*gnucash-user@gnucash\.org" if they don't, both examples use GNU Emacs regular expressions but the email filter you use might require other syntax --- or the filter might also allow you to chain some condition checks --- /e.g./: ( To OR Cc OR List-id ) == "gnucash-user@gnucash.org". ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Yes please can we have emojis instead :-) Your concerns are also mine, it was requested by one person who didn't seem to be a regular reader/contributor and someone else that also looked to be a non-contributor to the mailing list followed up with a wow this is a great idea. Despite a few people at the time saying they didn't want it, Liz chose to implement it and we haven't heard a dicky bird from her since. I would have much preferred some sort of survey of the list to gauge support for the proposal before arbitrarily forcing it on everyone. Might as well go off to Nabble and read all about it :-) Cheers Dave H. On 11 April 2018 at 12:11, D via gnucash-user <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > Ralph, > > I am fully aware of the limitations of self-selected surveys and their > validity of gauging sentiment. I was not intending to submit my research to > any peer reviewed journals. > > I *will* note that the replies to my own non-scientific survey continue to > trend at about three to one against, which, while not necessarily > statistically valid, nevertheless tends to indicate an overall negative > view of the decision. > > I am more concerned that these changes were implemented at the urging of > (at the time) a grand total of TWO individual requests, all without any > request for feedback from the rest of the readership. And now, when it has > been raised as an issue, I'm not hearing any indication of a reversal. > > So, if I suggest that the list prefix should use emojis instead (like, > say, []), and someone (perversely) agrees with that, will that get > implemented? It is distinctive, and one third shorter than "GNC", after all. > > David T. > > > > On April 11, 2018, at 1:20 AM, listreader <susel...@cableone.net> wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 22:00:33 +0500 > "David T. via gnucash-user" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > > > I have tallied up the responses regarding subject prefixes thus far, > > and it appears that 7 people are in favor of this change. > > > > In contrast, 20 people (including three of the development team) have > > expressed negative opinions regarding this addition. [In the interest > > of objectivity, I am one of this group.] > > > > It is unclear to me why such a change would be implemented based on > > the opinions of two readers (the total number of positive replies > > prior to implementation), and then not reverted when nearly three > > times the number of readers expressed their objectons to it. > > Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means. In my > experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes' > they don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the > same 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater. > > I subscribe to around 20 very busy mailing lists, all intentionally > sent to the same mailbox folder so as not to interfere with all my > other more urgent business and personal mailbox folders, and all but > GnuCash have always used a subject prefix. (including one which uses the > useless/annoying '[Users]' as its prefix but that is another story). > The prefix is EXTREMELY useful to me. So add me to the 'approve' side > of your tally. > > Ralph > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Ralph, I am fully aware of the limitations of self-selected surveys and their validity of gauging sentiment. I was not intending to submit my research to any peer reviewed journals. I *will* note that the replies to my own non-scientific survey continue to trend at about three to one against, which, while not necessarily statistically valid, nevertheless tends to indicate an overall negative view of the decision. I am more concerned that these changes were implemented at the urging of (at the time) a grand total of TWO individual requests, all without any request for feedback from the rest of the readership. And now, when it has been raised as an issue, I'm not hearing any indication of a reversal. So, if I suggest that the list prefix should use emojis instead (like, say, []), and someone (perversely) agrees with that, will that get implemented? It is distinctive, and one third shorter than "GNC", after all. David T. On April 11, 2018, at 1:20 AM, listreader <susel...@cableone.net> wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 22:00:33 +0500 "David T. via gnucash-user" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > I have tallied up the responses regarding subject prefixes thus far, > and it appears that 7 people are in favor of this change. > > In contrast, 20 people (including three of the development team) have > expressed negative opinions regarding this addition. [In the interest > of objectivity, I am one of this group.] > > It is unclear to me why such a change would be implemented based on > the opinions of two readers (the total number of positive replies > prior to implementation), and then not reverted when nearly three > times the number of readers expressed their objectons to it. Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means. In my experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes' they don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the same 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater. I subscribe to around 20 very busy mailing lists, all intentionally sent to the same mailbox folder so as not to interfere with all my other more urgent business and personal mailbox folders, and all but GnuCash have always used a subject prefix. (including one which uses the useless/annoying '[Users]' as its prefix but that is another story). The prefix is EXTREMELY useful to me. So add me to the 'approve' side of your tally. Ralph _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Interesting, in my emails from Gnucash I do not see any headers with tags
mailing-list
mailed-by
On most of them I see a tag
List-id
But that is not a field I can filter on from my ISP
In this message from Dave I see my email as the to: and
Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org as the CC: but there is no List-id
The only lists I see in my inbox today with a mailing-list tag are from
yahoo-groups.
So the filters Dave suggests would be incomplete, a CC is also needed.
Maybe also a 'From' just to be sure?
The emails from the list seem to have a variety of header forms, perhaps
depending on the mailers used for the reply, or the reply-to or
reply-list or reply-all forms. Seems hard to keep track of all the
possibilities.
Instead of requiring 2-3 or more filters for each list, the subject code
allows a single filter to do the job, consistently, never misses.
On 04/10/2018 08:43 PM, Dave H wrote:
The headers include :-
to: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org
<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
mailing list: gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
mailed-by: gnucash.org <http://gnucash.org>
if those aren't sufficient to filter on what is :-)
Cheers Dave H.
On 11 April 2018 at 10:11, William Bixby <wbi...@usa.net
<mailto:wbi...@usa.net>> wrote:
Adrien, my headers for your message show this email is from you, not
the list:
From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net
<mailto:adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net>>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\))
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:17:55 -0500
To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org
<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
List-Id: General Accounting Discussions http://gnucash-user.gnucash.org>>
On 04/10/2018 06:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
The mail already *is* from the list.
This can get flubbed when people start using reply-all and
leaving the original senders in the mix. As this continues in
the thread, individual e-mail addresses start bouncing around
between To and CC and the list address usually gets relegated to
CC permanently. But it doesn’t matter because one can always set
their filters to include To, CC and From (if not also, or
instead, reply-to) and there should be no issue.
There is a case for reply-all, but it involves cross-posted
messages (to other lists) or one-off participants who aren’t
list members. This is pretty rare here. (Occasionally you’ll see
a message posted on both -dev and -user but not often and so
many are on both) I don’t think I’ve seen any cross-postings to
outside lists. On the off chance a non-member participates (with
moderator approval) it would likely be obvious and you could
include their personal address.
Regards,
Adrien
On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Dale Alspach
<alspac...@gmail.com <mailto:alspac...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Question for those who want the [GNC] prefix:
Would having the email from be from the list
(gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>)
instead of the user (original sender) serve as well?
This would also help with the "remember to reply to the
list" issue. Reply,
Reply-all, Reply-list would include the list address.
I believe the mailing list software would still put the
original sender
address in the headers so that an off-list reply would be
possible.
Some view this type of address munging as being bad but I
believe that in
the case of gnucash-user this is the de facto preference of
the maintainers
and developers.
Dale
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Rich Shepard
<rshep...@appl-ecosys.com <mailto:rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>>
wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, listreader wrote:
Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it
means. In my
experience, far more people are likely to complain
about 'changes' they
don't like than are people who approve or are
neutral about the same
'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater.
Please add my vote to the neutral category. I
subscribe to about a dozen
mail lists, most use a list-related prefix in brackets;
a couple don't.
Because incoming messages are sorted into list-specific
files
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
The headers include :- to:Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> mailing list:gnucash-user@gnucash.org mailed-by:gnucash.org if those aren't sufficient to filter on what is :-) Cheers Dave H. On 11 April 2018 at 10:11, William Bixby <wbi...@usa.net> wrote: > Adrien, my headers for your message show this email is from you, not the > list: > From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> > Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:17:55 -0500 > To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix > List-Id: General Accounting Discussions > > > > > On 04/10/2018 06:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> The mail already *is* from the list. >> >> This can get flubbed when people start using reply-all and leaving the >> original senders in the mix. As this continues in the thread, individual >> e-mail addresses start bouncing around between To and CC and the list >> address usually gets relegated to CC permanently. But it doesn’t matter >> because one can always set their filters to include To, CC and From (if not >> also, or instead, reply-to) and there should be no issue. >> >> There is a case for reply-all, but it involves cross-posted messages (to >> other lists) or one-off participants who aren’t list members. This is >> pretty rare here. (Occasionally you’ll see a message posted on both -dev >> and -user but not often and so many are on both) I don’t think I’ve seen >> any cross-postings to outside lists. On the off chance a non-member >> participates (with moderator approval) it would likely be obvious and you >> could include their personal address. >> >> Regards, >> Adrien >> >> On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Dale Alspach <alspac...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Question for those who want the [GNC] prefix: >>> Would having the email from be from the list (gnucash-user@gnucash.org) >>> instead of the user (original sender) serve as well? >>> >>> This would also help with the "remember to reply to the list" issue. >>> Reply, >>> Reply-all, Reply-list would include the list address. >>> I believe the mailing list software would still put the original sender >>> address in the headers so that an off-list reply would be possible. >>> >>> Some view this type of address munging as being bad but I believe that in >>> the case of gnucash-user this is the de facto preference of the >>> maintainers >>> and developers. >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, listreader wrote: >>>> >>>> Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means. In my >>>> >>>>> experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes' they >>>>> don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the same >>>>> 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Please add my vote to the neutral category. I subscribe to about a >>>> dozen >>>> mail lists, most use a list-related prefix in brackets; a couple don't. >>>> Because incoming messages are sorted into list-specific files the only >>>> time >>>> the prepended tags matter is when multiple lists cover the same topic. >>>> >>>> GnuCash is the only bookkeeping application I use so a prepended tag >>>> makes >>>> no difference to me. But, for those who don't automatically sort >>>> incoming >>>> messages it could well be helpful. >>>> >>>> If having it present does no harm there's no reason to remove it, in >>>> my >>>> opinion. If you're reading e-mail on a phone, watch, or other small >>>> device >>>> and cannot see the entire subject line you probably have the ability to >>>> scroll horizontally as well as vertically. >>>> >>>> Rich >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> gnucash-user mailing list >>>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>>> https://wiki.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Adrien, my headers for your message show this email is from you, not the list: From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:17:55 -0500 To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix List-Id: General Accounting Discussions On 04/10/2018 06:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: The mail already *is* from the list. This can get flubbed when people start using reply-all and leaving the original senders in the mix. As this continues in the thread, individual e-mail addresses start bouncing around between To and CC and the list address usually gets relegated to CC permanently. But it doesn’t matter because one can always set their filters to include To, CC and From (if not also, or instead, reply-to) and there should be no issue. There is a case for reply-all, but it involves cross-posted messages (to other lists) or one-off participants who aren’t list members. This is pretty rare here. (Occasionally you’ll see a message posted on both -dev and -user but not often and so many are on both) I don’t think I’ve seen any cross-postings to outside lists. On the off chance a non-member participates (with moderator approval) it would likely be obvious and you could include their personal address. Regards, Adrien On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Dale Alspach <alspac...@gmail.com> wrote: Question for those who want the [GNC] prefix: Would having the email from be from the list (gnucash-user@gnucash.org) instead of the user (original sender) serve as well? This would also help with the "remember to reply to the list" issue. Reply, Reply-all, Reply-list would include the list address. I believe the mailing list software would still put the original sender address in the headers so that an off-list reply would be possible. Some view this type of address munging as being bad but I believe that in the case of gnucash-user this is the de facto preference of the maintainers and developers. Dale On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, listreader wrote: Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means. In my experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes' they don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the same 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater. Please add my vote to the neutral category. I subscribe to about a dozen mail lists, most use a list-related prefix in brackets; a couple don't. Because incoming messages are sorted into list-specific files the only time the prepended tags matter is when multiple lists cover the same topic. GnuCash is the only bookkeeping application I use so a prepended tag makes no difference to me. But, for those who don't automatically sort incoming messages it could well be helpful. If having it present does no harm there's no reason to remove it, in my opinion. If you're reading e-mail on a phone, watch, or other small device and cannot see the entire subject line you probably have the ability to scroll horizontally as well as vertically. Rich _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Bill Bixby Laconia NH _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I can see how cross-posted messages would turn into tag soup if every list followed this behavior. Adrien, Without intending to take the thread onto a different track, how common are corss-posted messages? Where are they cross-posted? I've not seen any, on any mail list to which I'm subscribed. Rich ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
The mail already *is* from the list. This can get flubbed when people start using reply-all and leaving the original senders in the mix. As this continues in the thread, individual e-mail addresses start bouncing around between To and CC and the list address usually gets relegated to CC permanently. But it doesn’t matter because one can always set their filters to include To, CC and From (if not also, or instead, reply-to) and there should be no issue. There is a case for reply-all, but it involves cross-posted messages (to other lists) or one-off participants who aren’t list members. This is pretty rare here. (Occasionally you’ll see a message posted on both -dev and -user but not often and so many are on both) I don’t think I’ve seen any cross-postings to outside lists. On the off chance a non-member participates (with moderator approval) it would likely be obvious and you could include their personal address. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Dale Alspach <alspac...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Question for those who want the [GNC] prefix: > Would having the email from be from the list (gnucash-user@gnucash.org) > instead of the user (original sender) serve as well? > > This would also help with the "remember to reply to the list" issue. Reply, > Reply-all, Reply-list would include the list address. > I believe the mailing list software would still put the original sender > address in the headers so that an off-list reply would be possible. > > Some view this type of address munging as being bad but I believe that in > the case of gnucash-user this is the de facto preference of the maintainers > and developers. > > Dale > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> > wrote: > >> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, listreader wrote: >> >> Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means. In my >>> experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes' they >>> don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the same >>> 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater. >>> >> >> Please add my vote to the neutral category. I subscribe to about a dozen >> mail lists, most use a list-related prefix in brackets; a couple don't. >> Because incoming messages are sorted into list-specific files the only time >> the prepended tags matter is when multiple lists cover the same topic. >> >> GnuCash is the only bookkeeping application I use so a prepended tag >> makes >> no difference to me. But, for those who don't automatically sort incoming >> messages it could well be helpful. >> >> If having it present does no harm there's no reason to remove it, in my >> opinion. If you're reading e-mail on a phone, watch, or other small device >> and cannot see the entire subject line you probably have the ability to >> scroll horizontally as well as vertically. >> >> Rich >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I do the same. I’ve noticed though that despite Mailman being set not to deliver duplicates if you are also in the To or CC fields, it does so anyway. I think it was Geert who did that as a test a few weeks back and I got two copies, one got filed (the list copy) and the other stayed in my inbox. (the one direct from him) I think the problem there is the list is going to send you at least one copy, but the individual sending the mail is including you in a To or CC field, which gets handled by their client and their mail provider - not the list. Thus there are still two independent routes. So I usually remove the personal addresses and move the list address up. While the tag it’s no skin off my nose, it is a tad annoying. It’s now visual clutter I have to filter out. (despite that I bother to filter the messages into their own folder) I can see how cross-posted messages would turn into tag soup if every list followed this behavior. And the real stickler for me on the whole topic, is this was added because some people don’t want to be bothered to configure their own mail client properly or don’t know how. (not to mention, it was added very quickly, even after the initial requestor withdrew the request!) I’ve yet to see the very few who like or asked for this change to give us an example of a mail client that can’t filter, tag or otherwise identify list mail. That’s my 2¢, or $1 factoring for inflation. Regards, Adrien p.s. - I wonder what will happen to some people’s threadings if I manually remove that [GNC] tag in the subject line after “Re:” ?? Certainly, a good mail client will thread off the message-id, but that’s not always the case. Will Mailman add it back? > On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, Dale Alspach wrote: > >> Question for those who want the [GNC] prefix: Would having the email from >> be from the list (gnucash-user@gnucash.org) instead of the user (original >> sender) serve as well? > > Dale, > > Doesn't matter to me, in most cases. When I reply to a message that has > both the sender's address and the list alpine puts the sender's address on > the To: line and the list address on the Cc: line. Before sending I delete > the former and move the latter up. > > There are times when a response to the individual rather than the list is > appropriate. This is when the response is off the thread and is either off > the mail list topic or is of a personal nature. Having both addresses > availalbe accommodates all situations. > >> This would also help with the "remember to reply to the list" issue. >> Reply, Reply-all, Reply-list would include the list address. I believe the >> mailing list software would still put the original sender address in the >> headers so that an off-list reply would be possible. > > When I respond to a message, such as this one, alpine asks me if I want to > respond to all. My fingers default to 'yes.' Often, both the sender and the > list are on the header and I adjust as desired, usually removing the > sender's address as they get a copy from the list in any case. > > All mail lists prefer threads to remain on the list so that future readers > can see the entire thread. > > I admit to not seeing where having [GNC] as a subject line prefix is > harmful to any list subscriber; perhaps that's because it is not an issue > for me either way. > > Regards, > > Rich > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, Dale Alspach wrote: Question for those who want the [GNC] prefix: Would having the email from be from the list (gnucash-user@gnucash.org) instead of the user (original sender) serve as well? Dale, Doesn't matter to me, in most cases. When I reply to a message that has both the sender's address and the list alpine puts the sender's address on the To: line and the list address on the Cc: line. Before sending I delete the former and move the latter up. There are times when a response to the individual rather than the list is appropriate. This is when the response is off the thread and is either off the mail list topic or is of a personal nature. Having both addresses availalbe accommodates all situations. This would also help with the "remember to reply to the list" issue. Reply, Reply-all, Reply-list would include the list address. I believe the mailing list software would still put the original sender address in the headers so that an off-list reply would be possible. When I respond to a message, such as this one, alpine asks me if I want to respond to all. My fingers default to 'yes.' Often, both the sender and the list are on the header and I adjust as desired, usually removing the sender's address as they get a copy from the list in any case. All mail lists prefer threads to remain on the list so that future readers can see the entire thread. I admit to not seeing where having [GNC] as a subject line prefix is harmful to any list subscriber; perhaps that's because it is not an issue for me either way. Regards, Rich ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Question for those who want the [GNC] prefix: Would having the email from be from the list (gnucash-user@gnucash.org) instead of the user (original sender) serve as well? This would also help with the "remember to reply to the list" issue. Reply, Reply-all, Reply-list would include the list address. I believe the mailing list software would still put the original sender address in the headers so that an off-list reply would be possible. Some view this type of address munging as being bad but I believe that in the case of gnucash-user this is the de facto preference of the maintainers and developers. Dale On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, listreader wrote: > > Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means. In my >> experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes' they >> don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the same >> 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater. >> > > Please add my vote to the neutral category. I subscribe to about a dozen > mail lists, most use a list-related prefix in brackets; a couple don't. > Because incoming messages are sorted into list-specific files the only time > the prepended tags matter is when multiple lists cover the same topic. > > GnuCash is the only bookkeeping application I use so a prepended tag > makes > no difference to me. But, for those who don't automatically sort incoming > messages it could well be helpful. > > If having it present does no harm there's no reason to remove it, in my > opinion. If you're reading e-mail on a phone, watch, or other small device > and cannot see the entire subject line you probably have the ability to > scroll horizontally as well as vertically. > > Rich > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I like the GNC prefix. I have 20 mail lists that I subscribe to. 17 use the subject prefix which results in precise filtering to my folders at my ISP level (I don't need to filter locally, so I can access the emails in the proper folders no matter which platform and therefore email client I use, Linux, Windows, phone, tablet, etc.). I try to filter the 3 lists without subject prefixes using the available sender, to, and CC options my ISP provides (list ID is not included, subject is available for the good lists that use a subject prefix). But within each list the emails have the list name/address in various positions, it is not consistent. Sometimes my ISP doesn't match the filters and then tags the email as junk. But in the majority of my mail lists that DO use the subject prefix I have never had emails flagged as junk. The filtering to folders is more precise. I'm surprised at the objections, as my experience is that mail lists adding the list ID in the subject is the 'norm' and very common. The few, like gnucash was, that don't are the outlier. It may not be a 'standard' requirement for mail lists, but when almost all do it it becomes a 'defacto' standard and should be followed. On 04/10/2018 04:48 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, listreader wrote: Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means. In my experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes' they don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the same 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater. Please add my vote to the neutral category. I subscribe to about a dozen mail lists, most use a list-related prefix in brackets; a couple don't. Because incoming messages are sorted into list-specific files the only time the prepended tags matter is when multiple lists cover the same topic. GnuCash is the only bookkeeping application I use so a prepended tag makes no difference to me. But, for those who don't automatically sort incoming messages it could well be helpful. If having it present does no harm there's no reason to remove it, in my opinion. If you're reading e-mail on a phone, watch, or other small device and cannot see the entire subject line you probably have the ability to scroll horizontally as well as vertically. Rich ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Bill Bixby Laconia NH ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Ralph, What is your e-mail client? Can it not filter mail? Can it not tag mail? Can it not handle mailing-lists? Regards, Adrien > On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:20 PM, listreader <susel...@cableone.net> wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 22:00:33 +0500 > "David T. via gnucash-user" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > >> I have tallied up the responses regarding subject prefixes thus far, >> and it appears that 7 people are in favor of this change. >> >> In contrast, 20 people (including three of the development team) have >> expressed negative opinions regarding this addition. [In the interest >> of objectivity, I am one of this group.] >> >> It is unclear to me why such a change would be implemented based on >> the opinions of two readers (the total number of positive replies >> prior to implementation), and then not reverted when nearly three >> times the number of readers expressed their objectons to it. > > Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means. In my > experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes' > they don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the > same 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater. > > I subscribe to around 20 very busy mailing lists, all intentionally > sent to the same mailbox folder so as not to interfere with all my > other more urgent business and personal mailbox folders, and all but > GnuCash have always used a subject prefix. (including one which uses the > useless/annoying '[Users]' as its prefix but that is another story). > The prefix is EXTREMELY useful to me. So add me to the 'approve' side > of your tally. > > Ralph > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, listreader wrote: Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means. In my experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes' they don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the same 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater. Please add my vote to the neutral category. I subscribe to about a dozen mail lists, most use a list-related prefix in brackets; a couple don't. Because incoming messages are sorted into list-specific files the only time the prepended tags matter is when multiple lists cover the same topic. GnuCash is the only bookkeeping application I use so a prepended tag makes no difference to me. But, for those who don't automatically sort incoming messages it could well be helpful. If having it present does no harm there's no reason to remove it, in my opinion. If you're reading e-mail on a phone, watch, or other small device and cannot see the entire subject line you probably have the ability to scroll horizontally as well as vertically. Rich ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
That's interesting Ralph. I have a similar need (4 or 5 busy lists) and I send each one to it's own subfolder of the "MailingLists" folder. I really like not having them jumbled up together, but that's just me. I vote against having them especially, as Geert pointed out, if you think about cross posted messages. Michael On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 3:23 PM, David Carlson <david.carlson@gmail.com> wrote: > I vote against > > David C > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 2:13 PM Gary Holtum <diamondhranc...@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > 25 against! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: gnucash-user > > [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+diamondhranchqh=earthlink@gnucash.org] > On > > Behalf Of Alex Aycinena > > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:01 PM > > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix > > > > 24 against > > > > > > > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > > From: Les <lellio...@gmail.com> > > > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > > Cc: > > > Bcc: > > > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:15:29 -0500 > > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix 23. > > > > > > > > > On 04/10/2018 12:40 PM, Mike Evans wrote: > > > > > >> 22 > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> gnucash-user mailing list > > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > >> - > > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > >> > > > > > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I vote against David C On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 2:13 PM Gary Holtum <diamondhranc...@earthlink.net> wrote: > 25 against! > > -Original Message- > From: gnucash-user > [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+diamondhranchqh=earthlink@gnucash.org] On > Behalf Of Alex Aycinena > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:01 PM > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix > > 24 against > > > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Les <lellio...@gmail.com> > > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > Cc: > > Bcc: > > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:15:29 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix 23. > > > > > > On 04/10/2018 12:40 PM, Mike Evans wrote: > > > >> 22 > >> > >> ___ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >> - > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >> > > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 22:00:33 +0500 "David T. via gnucash-user" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > I have tallied up the responses regarding subject prefixes thus far, > and it appears that 7 people are in favor of this change. > > In contrast, 20 people (including three of the development team) have > expressed negative opinions regarding this addition. [In the interest > of objectivity, I am one of this group.] > > It is unclear to me why such a change would be implemented based on > the opinions of two readers (the total number of positive replies > prior to implementation), and then not reverted when nearly three > times the number of readers expressed their objectons to it. Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means. In my experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes' they don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the same 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater. I subscribe to around 20 very busy mailing lists, all intentionally sent to the same mailbox folder so as not to interfere with all my other more urgent business and personal mailbox folders, and all but GnuCash have always used a subject prefix. (including one which uses the useless/annoying '[Users]' as its prefix but that is another story). The prefix is EXTREMELY useful to me. So add me to the 'approve' side of your tally. Ralph _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
25 against! -Original Message- From: gnucash-user [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+diamondhranchqh=earthlink@gnucash.org] On Behalf Of Alex Aycinena Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:01 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix 24 against > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Les <lellio...@gmail.com> > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:15:29 -0500 > Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix 23. > > > On 04/10/2018 12:40 PM, Mike Evans wrote: > >> 22 >> >> _______ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
24 against > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Les <lellio...@gmail.com> > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:15:29 -0500 > Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix > 23. > > > On 04/10/2018 12:40 PM, Mike Evans wrote: > >> 22 >> >> _______ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
22 On 10 Apr 2018 at 11:28, Ronal B Morse wrote: > Make that 21. But, it's not a big issue for me. > > RBM > > On 04/10/2018 11:00 AM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am responding to the original email because there have been > quite a few responses to this thread. > > > > I have tallied up the responses regarding subject prefixes thus > far, and it appears that 7 people are in favor of this change. > > > > In contrast, 20 people (including three of the development team) > have expressed negative opinions regarding this addition. [In the > interest of objectivity, I am one of this group.] > > > > It is unclear to me why such a change would be implemented based > on the opinions of two readers (the total number of positive replies > prior to implementation), and then not reverted when nearly three > times the number of readers expressed their objectons to it. > > > > David T. > > > >> On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:08 AM, Steve Parry <spa...@vidar.com.au> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi everyone (especially Admins). > >> > >> > >> > >> Just wondering if you can add an automatic Subject Prefix in > MailMan to all emails from this list (eg [GNC]) so that list emails > have a subject like "[GNC] This is a sample Subject". This will > enable faster identification of the mailing list emails (of which > there are many) when eye scanning and the option to have a mail > client rule to filter them into a separate folder. > >> > >> > >> > >> Just a thought! > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks for all your great work > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> ...Steve > >> > >> ___ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >> - > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
23. On 04/10/2018 12:40 PM, Mike Evans wrote: 22 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
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Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Make that 21. But, it's not a big issue for me. RBM On 04/10/2018 11:00 AM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote: Hello, I am responding to the original email because there have been quite a few responses to this thread. I have tallied up the responses regarding subject prefixes thus far, and it appears that 7 people are in favor of this change. In contrast, 20 people (including three of the development team) have expressed negative opinions regarding this addition. [In the interest of objectivity, I am one of this group.] It is unclear to me why such a change would be implemented based on the opinions of two readers (the total number of positive replies prior to implementation), and then not reverted when nearly three times the number of readers expressed their objectons to it. David T. On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:08 AM, Steve Parry <spa...@vidar.com.au> wrote: Hi everyone (especially Admins). Just wondering if you can add an automatic Subject Prefix in MailMan to all emails from this list (eg [GNC]) so that list emails have a subject like "[GNC] This is a sample Subject". This will enable faster identification of the mailing list emails (of which there are many) when eye scanning and the option to have a mail client rule to filter them into a separate folder. Just a thought! Thanks for all your great work Cheers ...Steve ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Hello, I am responding to the original email because there have been quite a few responses to this thread. I have tallied up the responses regarding subject prefixes thus far, and it appears that 7 people are in favor of this change. In contrast, 20 people (including three of the development team) have expressed negative opinions regarding this addition. [In the interest of objectivity, I am one of this group.] It is unclear to me why such a change would be implemented based on the opinions of two readers (the total number of positive replies prior to implementation), and then not reverted when nearly three times the number of readers expressed their objectons to it. David T. > On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:08 AM, Steve Parry <spa...@vidar.com.au> wrote: > > Hi everyone (especially Admins). > > > > Just wondering if you can add an automatic Subject Prefix in MailMan to all > emails from this list (eg [GNC]) so that list emails have a subject like > "[GNC] This is a sample Subject". This will enable faster identification of > the mailing list emails (of which there are many) when eye scanning and the > option to have a mail client rule to filter them into a separate folder. > > > > Just a thought! > > > > Thanks for all your great work > > Cheers > > ...Steve > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Alain, You said you use Mutt. You are one of the few (2 so far?) requesting and defending this change. Did you read the Mutt manual? Specifically: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#using-lists (and also: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#lists) "Mutt has a few configuration options that make dealing with large amounts of mail easier. The first thing you must do is to let Mutt know what addresses you consider to be mailing lists (technically this does not have to be a mailing list, but that is what it is most often used for), and what lists you are subscribed to. This is accomplished through the use of the lists and subscribe commands in your .muttrc. Now that Mutt knows what your mailing lists are, it can do several things, the first of which is the ability to show the name of a list through which you received a message (i.e., of a subscribed list) in the index menu display. This is useful to distinguish between personal and list mail in the same mailbox. In the $index_format variable, the expando “%L” will print the string “To ” when “list” appears in the “To” field, and “Cc ” when it appears in the “Cc” field (otherwise it prints the name of the author).” You can do this all on your own, without the rest of us having to see [GNC] or anything else pre-pended or appended to the subject line. Just configure your client properly. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Alain Williams <a...@phcomp.co.uk> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 01:48:13PM +, Buddha Buck wrote: > >> I concur. Gmail does server-side filtering and labelling, not client-side. > > Please be aware that not everyone uses gmail. > > -- > Alain Williams > Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT > Lecturer. > +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ > Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: > https://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php > #include > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I didn’t even have to tell Gmail anything. (at least for the webmail client) It automatically put all list mail in the ‘Forum’ tab for me. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 10, 2018, at 7:27 AM, Colin Law <clan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 10 April 2018 at 12:51, Adonay Felipe Nogueira <adf...@hyperbola.info> > wrote: >> 2018-04-10T09:51:58+0200 Saša Janiška wrote: >>> E.g. gnucash-users list uses Mailman which does provide e.g. List-Id >>> header for simple filtering... >> >> Probably some weak webmail client full of non-free software through >> client-side JavaScript, such as Gmail and Outlook's webmail. They do >> have filters, but not generally good, and are somewhat enticing in a way >> that the end-user never questions the features or misbehaviors provided, >> such that they just use it as it is. > > I have no problems filtering mailing lists with gmail. I just opened > one of the posts, told gmail to 'filter messages like this' told it > which folder to put them in and it works, as far as I can see, > flawlessly. Gnucash mails are automatically moved to the folder on > receipt. > > I also think this idea is just adding clutter. > > Colin > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Good point. Since filtering is a personal preference, I don’t think its method should be decided by the list. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 10, 2018, at 7:14 AM, Saša Janiška <g...@atmarama.com> wrote: > > Alain Williams <a...@phcomp.co.uk> writes: > >> All very nice if you want to do that; some do, some don't. > > Personally I do not mind too much since I use Gmane, but isn't it > strange that *all* users are paying the 'price' for users that "don't > want to do that" (aka mail filtering) ? ;) > > > Sincerely, > Gour > > -- > As the ignorant perform their duties with attachment to results, > the learned may similarly act, but without attachment, for the > sake of leading people on the right path. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I dislike it as well and would prefer not to have it. For your information it gets even worse for cross-posted messages. Such messages get all of the individual prefixes of each list added. I can't think what will happen when one replies to such a message... Geert Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:46:26 CEST schreef Buddha Buck: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:34 AM Alain Williams <a...@phcomp.co.uk> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 01:48:13PM +, Buddha Buck wrote: > > > I concur. Gmail does server-side filtering and labelling, not > > > > client-side. > > > > Please be aware that not everyone uses gmail. > > The topic of conversation was about which email clients didn't allow > filtering, and the example of gmail was brought up as a webclient-based > email client which doesn't allow filtering. I was concurring with Colin's > observation that gmail does provide filtering tools. > > I presume I just haven't gotten my copy of your admonition to Colin that > not everyone uses gmail? Or is there some particular reason why you have > picked me out in particular in this long thread? > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:34 AM Alain Williams <a...@phcomp.co.uk> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 01:48:13PM +, Buddha Buck wrote: > > > I concur. Gmail does server-side filtering and labelling, not > client-side. > > Please be aware that not everyone uses gmail. > The topic of conversation was about which email clients didn't allow filtering, and the example of gmail was brought up as a webclient-based email client which doesn't allow filtering. I was concurring with Colin's observation that gmail does provide filtering tools. I presume I just haven't gotten my copy of your admonition to Colin that not everyone uses gmail? Or is there some particular reason why you have picked me out in particular in this long thread? _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 01:48:13PM +, Buddha Buck wrote: > I concur. Gmail does server-side filtering and labelling, not client-side. Please be aware that not everyone uses gmail. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: https://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php #include ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 8:37 AM Colin Law <clan...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10 April 2018 at 12:51, Adonay Felipe Nogueira <adf...@hyperbola.info> > wrote: > > 2018-04-10T09:51:58+0200 Saša Janiška wrote: > >> E.g. gnucash-users list uses Mailman which does provide e.g. List-Id > >> header for simple filtering... > > > > Probably some weak webmail client full of non-free software through > > client-side JavaScript, such as Gmail and Outlook's webmail. They do > > have filters, but not generally good, and are somewhat enticing in a way > > that the end-user never questions the features or misbehaviors provided, > > such that they just use it as it is. > > I have no problems filtering mailing lists with gmail. I just opened > one of the posts, told gmail to 'filter messages like this' told it > which folder to put them in and it works, as far as I can see, > flawlessly. Gnucash mails are automatically moved to the folder on > receipt. > I concur. Gmail does server-side filtering and labelling, not client-side. When I go into my gmail settings, I can see a list of filters, one of which is "Matches: list:(gnucash-user@gnucash.org)/Do this: apply label 'gnucash/gnucash-user" and all my gnucash-user email is labelled as a gnucash-user email. Google Inbox is a different front-end for the same mail back-end, and it uses (again, serverside) a Bayesian categorizer to place emails in user-definable "bundles", such as "gnucash". It does this behind the scenes by adding a gmail label to the mail. Which means that when I look at this email in gmail, I'll see it listed as "gnucash gnucash/gnucash-user [GNC] Re: GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix", which is getting a bit ridiculous. > I also think this idea is just adding clutter. > > Colin > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On 10 April 2018 at 12:51, Adonay Felipe Nogueira <adf...@hyperbola.info> wrote: > 2018-04-10T09:51:58+0200 Saša Janiška wrote: >> E.g. gnucash-users list uses Mailman which does provide e.g. List-Id >> header for simple filtering... > > Probably some weak webmail client full of non-free software through > client-side JavaScript, such as Gmail and Outlook's webmail. They do > have filters, but not generally good, and are somewhat enticing in a way > that the end-user never questions the features or misbehaviors provided, > such that they just use it as it is. I have no problems filtering mailing lists with gmail. I just opened one of the posts, told gmail to 'filter messages like this' told it which folder to put them in and it works, as far as I can see, flawlessly. Gnucash mails are automatically moved to the folder on receipt. I also think this idea is just adding clutter. Colin _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Alain Williams <a...@phcomp.co.uk> writes: > All very nice if you want to do that; some do, some don't. Personally I do not mind too much since I use Gmane, but isn't it strange that *all* users are paying the 'price' for users that "don't want to do that" (aka mail filtering) ? ;) Sincerely, Gour -- As the ignorant perform their duties with attachment to results, the learned may similarly act, but without attachment, for the sake of leading people on the right path. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Is it possible to put [GNC] tag at the end of the subject. Those who filter on subject will still be able to use it and those who are disturbed by additional unnecessary tagging would be happy too. Amish. On Tuesday 10 April 2018 05:09 PM, Alain Williams wrote: The point is that different people choose different ones - for whatever reason. So: let's make it easy for people who are not using your chosen MUA to also distinguish GC/GNC email from the others in their mailbox. The price for those who do not need it on the Subject: line is a few characters - get over it! ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
2018-04-10T09:51:58+0200 Saša Janiška wrote: > E.g. gnucash-users list uses Mailman which does provide e.g. List-Id > header for simple filtering... Probably some weak webmail client full of non-free software through client-side JavaScript, such as Gmail and Outlook's webmail. They do have filters, but not generally good, and are somewhat enticing in a way that the end-user never questions the features or misbehaviors provided, such that they just use it as it is. A rule of thumb for those reading through webmail or starting to configure email clients: For emailing (not just mailing lists), use an email client with POP3 for receiving and SMTP for sending --- make sure to configure both with TLS and secure authentication ---, after this, go to the *webmail* and order it to *not* send email to "Spam" or "Junk" directories --- contact the webmail provider for details on how to do this ---, instead send those emails to "INBOX" and have the suspicious emails' subject appended with something like "*SPAM*", or do no subject change and instead make the *email client* itself split by an antispam header. Appending "*SPAM*" to the subject avoids having the annoying situation in which someone sends you an important message but it's forgotten in the junk/spam directory. I have sent a job application November last year, but only got the read receipt (disposition notification) last week, and the recipient had a Gmail/Hotmail email address. _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 08:31:32AM -0300, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: > 2018-04-06T11:08:57+1000 Steve Parry wrote: > > when eye scanning and the option to have a mail client rule to filter > > them into a separate folder. > > Some email clients, for example GNU Emacs Gnus, allows you to do email The clue to this is ''Some email clients''. The point is that different people choose different ones - for whatever reason. So: let's make it easy for people who are not using your chosen MUA to also distinguish GC/GNC email from the others in their mailbox. The price for those who do not need it on the Subject: line is a few characters - get over it! > splitting, in which you can make groups/directories that will hold email > messages that match a certain rule, and this can be done by testing for > the "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" email, or the corresponding bouncer. All very nice if you want to do that; some do, some don't. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: https://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php #include _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
2018-04-06T11:08:57+1000 Steve Parry wrote: > when eye scanning and the option to have a mail client rule to filter > them into a separate folder. Some email clients, for example GNU Emacs Gnus, allows you to do email splitting, in which you can make groups/directories that will hold email messages that match a certain rule, and this can be done by testing for the "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" email, or the corresponding bouncer. -- - Formas de contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard - Ativista do /software/ livre (não confundir com gratuito). Avaliador da liberdade de /software/ e de /sites/. - Membro do LibrePlanet Brasil: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Brasil - Comunicações sociais federadas padronizadas, onde o "social" permanece independente do fornecedor. - #DeleteWhatsApp. Use o pai dele, #XMPP, federado e com padrão internacional: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/XMPP.pt - #DeleteFacebook #DeleteInstagram #DeleteTwitter #DeleteYouTube. Use redes sociais federadas que suportam #ActivityPub, padrão internacional, como a rede Mastodon: https://joinmastodon.org/ - #DeleteNetflix #CancelNetflix. Evite #DRM: https://www.defectivebydesign.org/ - Quer enviar arquivos para mim? Veja: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#Arquivos - Quer doar para mim, ou me contratar? Veja: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#Suporte - Minhas contribuições: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#Contributions _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Mark Lawrence <breamore...@gmail.com> writes: > I see it as a fourth rate solution to a problem that simply does not > exist. As I've said previously just point your email/news reader app > at news.gmane.org and get all of the filtering done for free. +1 for Gmane, but I also wonder what mail clients do people use that do not provide simple filtering features? E.g. gnucash-users list uses Mailman which does provide e.g. List-Id header for simple filtering... Sincerely, Gour -- Abandoning all attachment to the results of his activities, ever satisfied and independent, he performs no fruitive action, although engaged in all kinds of undertakings. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 03:46:54PM +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > I see it as a fourth rate solution to a problem that simply does not > exist. As I've said previously just point your email/news reader > app at news.gmane.org and get all of the filtering done for free. > Setting this up takes at least a minute, plus seconds for each of > any of the thousands of mailing lists that you want to subscribe to. > What more could anybody want, blood on it? You have a very narrow view on how people read email. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: https://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php #include ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I'd also prefer [GC] over [GNC]. On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:06 AM, Andy Pastuszak <apastus...@gmail.com> wrote: > GNC happens to be the name of a vitamin store in the US that does a pretty > good job of spamming my inbox. I don't know if using GNC is the best > option. Why not just use GnuCash? > > Andy > > > On 4/8/2018 8:39 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> Drop the @ in the first rule and you can cut the second rule out. But >> really, what you have here isn’t difficult. >> >> You’d only need the 3rd one if JohnR sends you frequent PMs. When anyone >> does that for me, I just drag and drop on those off occasions after I’ve >> read it. (a PM is usually something I’d want to pay attention to anyway and >> not have it get lost in the list folder) >> >> Regards, >> Adrien >> >> On Apr 8, 2018, at 5:11 PM, Jean-David Beyer <jeandav...@verizon.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 04/08/2018 03:29 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: >>> >>>> Add me to the dislike list. A simple filtering of the "FROM" field >>>> works >>>> easily. I don't see what all the concern is about. >>>> >>>> >>> I guess it depends on what you mean by simple. >>> So far I need these three to catch everything I want in my GnuCash-ML >>> mailbox: >>> >>> To or Cc contains @gnucash.org >>> To or Cc contains @lists.gnucash.org >>> From contains jra...@ceridwen.us >>> >>> For some other mailing lists, more complex things are required. >>> >>> -- >>> .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. >>> /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. >>> /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net >>> ^^-^^ 18:00:01 up 2 days, 20:51, 2 users, load average: 4.48, 4.59, 5.13 >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >>> - >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>> >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >> ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On 09/04/18 15:18, Alain Williams wrote: On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 07:14:11PM +0500, D via gnucash-user wrote: I reiterate my objections to these changes, and note that as the prefixes get longer, it gets harder and harder for readers using small screens (think smart phones or tablets) to see the actual subject of a given email. I think that it is a considerable improvement. I can now easily see from the Subject: line what the email relates to; which means that I can ignore it until I am in ''gnucash mode'' - much more efficient! I see it as a fourth rate solution to a problem that simply does not exist. As I've said previously just point your email/news reader app at news.gmane.org and get all of the filtering done for free. Setting this up takes at least a minute, plus seconds for each of any of the thousands of mailing lists that you want to subscribe to. What more could anybody want, blood on it? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I like it. -- -chaz Charles Sliger "No matter where you go... There you are... Buckaroo Banzai" On Sun, 2018-04-08 at 08:58 +1000, Liz wrote: > James Triplett wrote: > > > > On (06/04/18 11:08), Steve Parry wrote: > > > > > > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 11:08:57 +1000 > > > From: Steve Parry <spa...@vidar.com.au> > > > To: 'Gnucash Users' <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > > > Subject: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix > > > Reply-To: spa...@vidar.com.au > > > > > > Hi everyone (especially Admins). > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering if you can add an automatic Subject Prefix in > > > MailMan to > all emails from this list (eg [GNC]) so that list emails have a > subject > like "[GNC] This is a sample Subject". This will enable faster > > > > > > > > identification of the mailing list emails (of which there are > > > many) > when eye scanning and the option to have a mail client rule to filter > them into a separate folder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it's a great idea. My email client makes this Subject > > Prefix > stand out very nicely. > > > > Yes, of course, I could design a filtering algorithm that could re- > > sort > my mail, blah, blah, blah. > > > > But the eye does it very nicely (in my INBOX of about a thousand > > items, > receiving about 100 per day). > > > > > > cheers, > > James > > (email sysadmin but newbie GC user) > I've put in GNC for this list, and GNC-dev for the development list. > While > others have mentioned filtering on the "To" field, it's also been > necessary to filter on the "CC" field. > Liz > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org > /wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 10:59:20AM -0400, Stan Brown wrote: > Or why not use nothing, since people who want to filter have the ability to > do that with or without a prefix? Because some of us don't mechanically filter, but use the Subject line to visually filter. This I do effectively, my MUA (mutt) has a threaded mode which groups everything in a conversation. The cost for those who mechanically filter is some 5 extra characters in the Subject: The benefit for those who do NOT mechanically filter is to be able to easily spot GNC related email. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: https://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php #include ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Or why not use nothing, since people who want to filter have the ability to do that with or without a prefix? -- Stan Brown the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm http://BrownMath.com http://OakRoadSystems.com/ On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Andy Pastuszak wrote: > GNC happens to be the name of a vitamin store in the US that does a > pretty good job of spamming my inbox. I don't know if using GNC is the > best option. Why not just use GnuCash? > > Andy ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 07:14:11PM +0500, D via gnucash-user wrote: > I reiterate my objections to these changes, and note that as the prefixes get > longer, it gets harder and harder for readers using small screens (think > smart phones or tablets) to see the actual subject of a given email. I think that it is a considerable improvement. I can now easily see from the Subject: line what the email relates to; which means that I can ignore it until I am in ''gnucash mode'' - much more efficient! -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: https://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php #include ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
I reiterate my objections to these changes, and note that as the prefixes get longer, it gets harder and harder for readers using small screens (think smart phones or tablets) to see the actual subject of a given email. Bleah! David T. On April 9, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Andy Pastuszak <apastus...@gmail.com> wrote: GNC happens to be the name of a vitamin store in the US that does a pretty good job of spamming my inbox. I don't know if using GNC is the best option. Why not just use GnuCash? Andy On 4/8/2018 8:39 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Drop the @ in the first rule and you can cut the second rule out. But really, > what you have here isn’t difficult. > > You’d only need the 3rd one if JohnR sends you frequent PMs. When anyone does > that for me, I just drag and drop on those off occasions after I’ve read it. > (a PM is usually something I’d want to pay attention to anyway and not have > it get lost in the list folder) > > Regards, > Adrien > >> On Apr 8, 2018, at 5:11 PM, Jean-David Beyer <jeandav...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> On 04/08/2018 03:29 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: >>> Add me to the dislike list. A simple filtering of the "FROM" field works >>> easily. I don't see what all the concern is about. >>> >> >> I guess it depends on what you mean by simple. >> So far I need these three to catch everything I want in my GnuCash-ML >> mailbox: >> >> To or Cc contains @gnucash.org >> To or Cc contains @lists.gnucash.org >> From contains jra...@ceridwen.us >> >> For some other mailing lists, more complex things are required. >> >> -- >> .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. >> /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. >> /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net >> ^^-^^ 18:00:01 up 2 days, 20:51, 2 users, load average: 4.48, 4.59, 5.13 >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
GNC happens to be the name of a vitamin store in the US that does a pretty good job of spamming my inbox. I don't know if using GNC is the best option. Why not just use GnuCash? Andy On 4/8/2018 8:39 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Drop the @ in the first rule and you can cut the second rule out. But really, what you have here isn’t difficult. You’d only need the 3rd one if JohnR sends you frequent PMs. When anyone does that for me, I just drag and drop on those off occasions after I’ve read it. (a PM is usually something I’d want to pay attention to anyway and not have it get lost in the list folder) Regards, Adrien On Apr 8, 2018, at 5:11 PM, Jean-David Beyer <jeandav...@verizon.net> wrote: On 04/08/2018 03:29 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: Add me to the dislike list. A simple filtering of the "FROM" field works easily. I don't see what all the concern is about. I guess it depends on what you mean by simple. So far I need these three to catch everything I want in my GnuCash-ML mailbox: To or Cc contains @gnucash.org To or Cc contains @lists.gnucash.org From contains jra...@ceridwen.us For some other mailing lists, more complex things are required. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net ^^-^^ 18:00:01 up 2 days, 20:51, 2 users, load average: 4.48, 4.59, 5.13 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Drop the @ in the first rule and you can cut the second rule out. But really, what you have here isn’t difficult. You’d only need the 3rd one if JohnR sends you frequent PMs. When anyone does that for me, I just drag and drop on those off occasions after I’ve read it. (a PM is usually something I’d want to pay attention to anyway and not have it get lost in the list folder) Regards, Adrien > On Apr 8, 2018, at 5:11 PM, Jean-David Beyer <jeandav...@verizon.net> wrote: > > On 04/08/2018 03:29 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: >> Add me to the dislike list. A simple filtering of the "FROM" field works >> easily. I don't see what all the concern is about. >> > > I guess it depends on what you mean by simple. > So far I need these three to catch everything I want in my GnuCash-ML > mailbox: > > To or Cc contains @gnucash.org > To or Cc contains @lists.gnucash.org > From contains jra...@ceridwen.us > > For some other mailing lists, more complex things are required. > > -- > .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. > /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. > /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net > ^^-^^ 18:00:01 up 2 days, 20:51, 2 users, load average: 4.48, 4.59, 5.13 > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Interesting. But this wasn’t that difficult even many moons ago to set up: Regards, Adrien > On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Chris Marusich <cmmarus...@gmail.com> wrote: > > http://david.woodhou.se/reply-to-list.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Another +1 for reverting it. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 8, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Stan Brown <the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > > +1++ > > :-) > > -- > Regards, > Stan Brown > Tompkins County, New York, USA > http://BrownMath.com > http://OakRoadSystems.com > > > On 2018-04-08 13:21, Saša Janiška wrote: >> John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> writes: >> >>> Add me to the list of folks who dislike this change. >> >> +1 > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
So not so difficult for you :-) Cheers Dave H. On 9 April 2018 at 08:11, Jean-David Beyer <jeandav...@verizon.net> wrote: > On 04/08/2018 03:29 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: > > Add me to the dislike list. A simple filtering of the "FROM" field works > > easily. I don't see what all the concern is about. > > > > I guess it depends on what you mean by simple. > So far I need these three to catch everything I want in my GnuCash-ML > mailbox: > > To or Cc contains @gnucash.org > To or Cc contains @lists.gnucash.org > From contains jra...@ceridwen.us > > For some other mailing lists, more complex things are required. > > -- > .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. > /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. > /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net > ^^-^^ 18:00:01 up 2 days, 20:51, 2 users, load average: 4.48, 4.59, 5.13 > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018, Fross, Michael wrote: Add me to the dislike list. A simple filtering of the "FROM" field works easily. I don't see what all the concern is about. Well, I'll throw in my $0.02 worth. I run Slackware linux and my own MTA (postfix) using procmail as the local delivery agent (MDA). I can filter incoming messages using anything I want. With this recipe: :0: * ^TO_.*@*(lists\.)?gnucash\.org accounting all incoming messages to, or CC'd to, either lists.gnucash.org or gnucash.org are placed in the 'accounting' file. Where I find list name prefixes within brackets useful is when I want several maillists (such as for spatial analyses) to be filed in the same place because they address the same subject matter. The bracketed name tells me which thread belongs to which mail list. Regards, Rich ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Add me to the dislike list. A simple filtering of the "FROM" field works easily. I don't see what all the concern is about. Michael On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Chris Marusich <cmmarus...@gmail.com> wrote: > "Liz" <ed...@billiau.net> writes: > > > While others have mentioned filtering on the "To" field, it's also > > been necessary to filter on the "CC" field. > > Anyone reading this thread might also be interested in the following > essay, which describes the pros and cons of various methods for > filtering list email: > > http://david.woodhou.se/reply-to-list.html > > Its thesis is that "the best way to filter list traffic is actually on > the Return-Path." That's what I do (when the list actually provides > such a header). So, this change won't affect my own filtering rules. > > Filtering based on the Subject is of course a common tactic when the > list adds a tag to the Subject, but most lists I've seen don't do that, > and it isn't discussed in that essay. > > -- > Chris > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
"Liz" <ed...@billiau.net> writes: > While others have mentioned filtering on the "To" field, it's also > been necessary to filter on the "CC" field. Anyone reading this thread might also be interested in the following essay, which describes the pros and cons of various methods for filtering list email: http://david.woodhou.se/reply-to-list.html Its thesis is that "the best way to filter list traffic is actually on the Return-Path." That's what I do (when the list actually provides such a header). So, this change won't affect my own filtering rules. Filtering based on the Subject is of course a common tactic when the list adds a tag to the Subject, but most lists I've seen don't do that, and it isn't discussed in that essay. -- Chris signature.asc Description: PGP signature _______ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
