Re: FAQ, take two

2012-06-06 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue,  5 Jun 2012 22:26, kloec...@kde.org said:

 Supports GnuPG versions: 1.4, 2.0

FWIW: Kontact Touch has been developed against GnuPG 2.1.  I am not sure
whether it works with 2.0.  The Linux version will likely work but the
WindowsCE version won't work - but well, nobody is using the latter.


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Re: FAQ, take two

2012-06-06 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue,  5 Jun 2012 19:22, r...@sixdemonbag.org said:

 I can add these: it shouldn't be a problem.  The reason I'm using XHTML,
 incidentally, is to make it as easy as possible for you to convert it
 into org-mode: an hour's work with a SAX parser should be able to take
 care of most of it.  If I knew the first thing about org-mode I'd write
 the script myself.

org-mode is pretty easy to understand.  The current faq.org should be
sufficent as an example.  Redering it to txt and html is a quick 10
lines rule in doc/Makefile.am.  Add ~4 lines for each other format (PDF,
ODT, Latex, XOXO, DocBook).

Let me give the conversion a try once you are finished.


Shalom-Salam,

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Re: scdaemon needs restarting after removing OpenPGP smartcard

2012-06-06 Thread NIIBE Yutaka
On 2012-06-05 at 17:55 +0200, Werner Koch wrote:
 gniibe: You reported a couple of other possible problems.  Do you thing
 we should go after them for a 2.0.20?

My changes are basically two areas in master branch.

(1) Fix of ccid-driver.c for partial support of extended APDU.
This was needed for Gnuk ( version 0.16).

(2) Pinpad input enhancement for passphrase modification.

Besides, I know there is a problem in scd_update_reader_status_file,
which was repoprted the other day, but I haven't fixed yet.  I think
that access to the object of struct slot_status_s should be locked.

I'll lock into those for backporting.
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can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?

2012-06-06 Thread Sam Smith

Can someone please verify that I have the legit public key to verify GnuPG 
with? I checked the website but the Fingerprint is not given anywhere.

I got this Fingerprint for the Public Key I downloaded

D869 2123 C406 5DEA 5E0F  3AB5 249B 39D2 4F25 E3B6



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Re: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?

2012-06-06 Thread Charly Avital
Sam Smith snt123-w473749522376a8d4b7b6eac2...@phx.gbl June 6, 2012
9:25:37 AM wrote:
Sam Smith wrote on 6/6/12 8:54 AM:
 Can someone please verify that I have the legit public key to verify
 GnuPG with? I checked the website but the Fingerprint is not given anywhere.
 
 I got this Fingerprint for the Public Key I downloaded
 
 D869 2123 C406 5DEA 5E0F  3AB5 249B 39D2 4F25 E3B6

That's the fingerprint for Werner Koch (dist sig):

pub 2048R/4F25E3B6 created: 2011-01-12  expires: 2019-12-31  usage: SC
 trust: [] validity: []
sub 2048R/AC87C71A created: 2011-01-12  expires: 2019-12-31  usage: A
[] (1). Werner Koch (dist sig)
pub   2048R/4F25E3B6 2011-01-12 Werner Koch (dist sig)
Primary key fingerprint: D869 2123 C406 5DEA 5E0F 3AB5 249B 39D2 4F25 E3B6



Hope this is what you were looking for.
Charly
Mac OS X 10.7.4 (11E52) MacBook Intel C2Duo MacGPG2-2.0.17-9
Thunderbird 13.0 Enigmail 1.4.2 (20120519-0100)

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RE: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?

2012-06-06 Thread Sam Smith

Yeah, thanks. It's the key that signed the .sig and the one I needed to 
download to verify. I downloaded it from a Key Server--don't know how else to 
get the public key.

I checked the gpg package legitimacy on a computer that already had gpg 
installed. But wanted to make sure I had a legit pub key for the new machine i 
was building. Thanks!

Is there another way to verify the legitimacy of a downloaded public key? 
(assuming you don't know any of the other sigs on the pub key that is, 
obviously). Or is asking on a user list like this the recommended way?



 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:31:15 -0400
 From: shavi...@gmail.com
 To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org
 Subject: Re: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?
 
 Sam Smith snt123-w473749522376a8d4b7b6eac2...@phx.gbl June 6, 2012
 9:25:37 AM wrote:
 Sam Smith wrote on 6/6/12 8:54 AM:
  Can someone please verify that I have the legit public key to verify
  GnuPG with? I checked the website but the Fingerprint is not given anywhere.
  
  I got this Fingerprint for the Public Key I downloaded
  
  D869 2123 C406 5DEA 5E0F  3AB5 249B 39D2 4F25 E3B6
 
 That's the fingerprint for Werner Koch (dist sig):
 
 pub 2048R/4F25E3B6 created: 2011-01-12  expires: 2019-12-31  usage: SC
  trust: [] validity: []
 sub 2048R/AC87C71A created: 2011-01-12  expires: 2019-12-31  usage: A
 [] (1). Werner Koch (dist sig)
 pub   2048R/4F25E3B6 2011-01-12 Werner Koch (dist sig)
 Primary key fingerprint: D869 2123 C406 5DEA 5E0F 3AB5 249B 39D2 4F25 E3B6
 
 
 
 Hope this is what you were looking for.
 Charly
 Mac OS X 10.7.4 (11E52) MacBook Intel C2Duo MacGPG2-2.0.17-9
 Thunderbird 13.0 Enigmail 1.4.2 (20120519-0100)
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Re: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?

2012-06-06 Thread Hubert Kario
On Wednesday 06 of June 2012 09:39:12 Sam Smith wrote:
 Yeah, thanks. It's the key that signed the .sig and the one I needed to
 download to verify. I downloaded it from a Key Server--don't know how else
 to get the public key.
 
 I checked the gpg package legitimacy on a computer that already had gpg
 installed. But wanted to make sure I had a legit pub key for the new
 machine i was building. Thanks!
 
 Is there another way to verify the legitimacy of a downloaded public key?
 (assuming you don't know any of the other sigs on the pub key that is,
 obviously). Or is asking on a user list like this the recommended way?

From security perspective, the public key and (long) fingerprint are 
synonymous.

In other words, as long as the fingerprint matches the certificate, it doesn't 
matter where you get the certificate from. But this only holds true if you 
trust the validity of fingerprint.

Regards, 
Hubert Kario

  Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:31:15 -0400
  From: shavi...@gmail.com
  To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org
  Subject: Re: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?
  
  Sam Smith snt123-w473749522376a8d4b7b6eac2...@phx.gbl June 6, 2012
  9:25:37 AM wrote:
  
  Sam Smith wrote on 6/6/12 8:54 AM:
   Can someone please verify that I have the legit public key to verify
   GnuPG with? I checked the website but the Fingerprint is not given
   anywhere.
   
   I got this Fingerprint for the Public Key I downloaded
   
   D869 2123 C406 5DEA 5E0F  3AB5 249B 39D2 4F25 E3B6
  
  That's the fingerprint for Werner Koch (dist sig):
  
  pub 2048R/4F25E3B6 created: 2011-01-12  expires: 2019-12-31  usage: SC
  
   trust: [] validity: []
  
  sub 2048R/AC87C71A created: 2011-01-12  expires: 2019-12-31  usage: A
  [] (1). Werner Koch (dist sig)
  pub   2048R/4F25E3B6 2011-01-12 Werner Koch (dist sig)
  Primary key fingerprint: D869 2123 C406 5DEA 5E0F 3AB5 249B 39D2 4F25 E3B6
  
  
  
  Hope this is what you were looking for.
  Charly
  Mac OS X 10.7.4 (11E52) MacBook Intel C2Duo MacGPG2-2.0.17-9
  Thunderbird 13.0 Enigmail 1.4.2 (20120519-0100)
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Re: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?

2012-06-06 Thread da...@gbenet.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 06/06/12 13:54, Sam Smith wrote:
 Can someone please verify that I have the legit public key to verify GnuPG 
 with? I checked
 the website but the Fingerprint is not given anywhere.
 
 I got this Fingerprint for the Public Key I downloaded
 
 D869 2123 C406 5DEA 5E0F  3AB5 249B 39D2 4F25 E3B6
 
 
 
 
 
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Hello,

You want to go to this link  http://gnupg.org/signature_key.en.html and select 
the public
key block - then copy then open whatever gnupg frontend you have and import 
from clipboard

David

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Re: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?

2012-06-06 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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On 06.06.2012 15:54, Sam Smith wrote:
 Can someone please verify that I have the legit public key to
 verify GnuPG with? I checked the website but the Fingerprint is not
 given anywhere.
 
 I got this Fingerprint for the Public Key I downloaded
 
 D869 2123 C406 5DEA 5E0F  3AB5 249B 39D2 4F25 E3B6
Looks correct.

```
% gpg --recv-keys D8692123C4065DEA5E0F3AB5249B39D24F25E3B6
gpg: requesting key 4F25E3B6 from hkp server pool.sks-keyservers.net
gpg: key 4F25E3B6: public key Werner Koch (dist sig) imported
gpg: waiting for lock (held by 9266) ...
gpg: waiting for lock (held by 9266) ...
gpg: 3 marginal(s) needed, 1 complete(s) needed, PGP trust model
gpg: depth: 0  valid:   2  signed:   4  trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 2u
gpg: depth: 1  valid:   4  signed:  11  trust: 3-, 0q, 0n, 1m, 0f, 0u
gpg: next trustdb check due at 2012-07-29
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:   imported: 1  (RSA: 1)
```

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Re: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?

2012-06-06 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 06/06/12 17:58, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 D869 2123 C406 5DEA 5E0F  3AB5 249B 39D2 4F25 E3B6
 Looks correct.
 
 ``` % gpg --recv-keys D8692123C4065DEA5E0F3AB5249B39D24F25E3B6 gpg:
 requesting key 4F25E3B6 from hkp server pool.sks-keyservers.net gpg: key
 4F25E3B6: public key Werner Koch (dist sig) imported

I agree it appears he has the correct key. I did a local sig on it after what
checking I seemed to be able to do without meeting people in person.

But it's a bit unclear to me on what basis you decided it looked correct? Your
mail suggests to me that you decided that based on the fact that the UID on
that key is Werner Koch (dist sig). But that would be the very first thing a
potential attacker would duplicate in his effort to fool our OP. Even if he's
using MITM tricks to subvert his system, he can still post his personally
generated key to the keyserver with this UID.

Peter.

PS: I briefly considered signing this message, because the attacker might MITM
my message to the OP. Then I realised what good that signature would do :).

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RE: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?

2012-06-06 Thread Sam Smith

yes, impersonation of the UID [Werner Koch (dist sig)] is what I'm trying to 
guard against. 

My efforts to verify the fingerprint are the best way to do this, correct?




 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:54:01 +0200
 From: pe...@digitalbrains.com
 To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org
 Subject: Re: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?
 
 On 06/06/12 17:58, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
  D869 2123 C406 5DEA 5E0F  3AB5 249B 39D2 4F25 E3B6
  Looks correct.
  
  ``` % gpg --recv-keys D8692123C4065DEA5E0F3AB5249B39D24F25E3B6 gpg:
  requesting key 4F25E3B6 from hkp server pool.sks-keyservers.net gpg: key
  4F25E3B6: public key Werner Koch (dist sig) imported
 
 I agree it appears he has the correct key. I did a local sig on it after what
 checking I seemed to be able to do without meeting people in person.
 
 But it's a bit unclear to me on what basis you decided it looked correct? Your
 mail suggests to me that you decided that based on the fact that the UID on
 that key is Werner Koch (dist sig). But that would be the very first thing a
 potential attacker would duplicate in his effort to fool our OP. Even if he's
 using MITM tricks to subvert his system, he can still post his personally
 generated key to the keyserver with this UID.
 
 Peter.
 
 PS: I briefly considered signing this message, because the attacker might MITM
 my message to the OP. Then I realised what good that signature would do :).
 
 -- 
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Re: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?

2012-06-06 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 06/06/2012 07:15 PM, Sam Smith wrote:
 My efforts to verify the fingerprint are the best way to do this, correct?

Best is a relative term.

The gold standard for validation involves meeting someone who claims to
be Werner Koch, asking him for his passport, checking that his passport
identifies him as Werner Koch and that all the anti-forgery measures are
in place on the document, and having him tell you directly what his
certificate fingerprint is.

Of course, this just establishes you have the certificate of *a* Werner
Koch, and maybe not the one you want.

Certificate validation is a surprisingly hard thing to do.  Sorry.  :(

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Re: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?

2012-06-06 Thread da...@gbenet.com
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On 07/06/12 00:15, Sam Smith wrote:
 yes, impersonation of the UID [Werner Koch (dist sig)] is what I'm trying to 
 guard against.
 
 My efforts to verify the fingerprint are the best way to do this, correct?
 
 
 
 
 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:54:01 +0200
 From: pe...@digitalbrains.com
 To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org
 Subject: Re: can someone verify the gnupg Fingerprint for pubkey?

 On 06/06/12 17:58, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
  D869 2123 C406 5DEA 5E0F 3AB5 249B 39D2 4F25 E3B6
  Looks correct.
 
  ``` % gpg --recv-keys D8692123C4065DEA5E0F3AB5249B39D24F25E3B6 gpg:
  requesting key 4F25E3B6 from hkp server pool.sks-keyservers.net gpg: key
  4F25E3B6: public key Werner Koch (dist sig) imported

 I agree it appears he has the correct key. I did a local sig on it after what
 checking I seemed to be able to do without meeting people in person.

 But it's a bit unclear to me on what basis you decided it looked correct? 
 Your
 mail suggests to me that you decided that based on the fact that the UID on
 that key is Werner Koch (dist sig). But that would be the very first thing 
 a
 potential attacker would duplicate in his effort to fool our OP. Even if he's
 using MITM tricks to subvert his system, he can still post his personally
 generated key to the keyserver with this UID.

 Peter.

 PS: I briefly considered signing this message, because the attacker might 
 MITM
 my message to the OP. Then I realised what good that signature would do :).

 --
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 You can send me encrypted mail if you want some privacy.
 My key is available at http://wwwhome.cs.utwente.nl/~lebbing/pubkey.txt

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Sam,

You are a little confused - you ask ask can some one verify the gnupg 
fingerprint for
pubkey and you use Verners key to verify gnupg. Then you worry about 
impersonation - now
clearly Verner and gnupg have different keys. Or don't you know that?

Clearly you failed to follow my link and clearly you failed to check the public 
key for
gnupg. Now being a little confused try and get a clear question in your mind - 
is it
Verner's key that you have such a passion to verify or gnupg?

Verner's had about three keys two of which have expired - to the best of  my 
knowledge he's
a real person - he even maintains this list. You could always try encrypting  
an e-mail to
his public key asking him if he's a real person. I'd suggest you not do the 
same for the
public key of gnupg.

People generate a private and a public key imaginary people don't do this - 
granted some one
can set up a false ID and create a set of keys - but though they have created a 
false ID to
do so they are nevertheless real people.

If you are so concerned about Verner's key why not take a trip to Germany and 
arrange to
meet him? You can't meet the gnupg (as its a bit of software) but you can 
verify it's
running on your computer.

All your keys are untrusted. Everyone of them - apart from your own public 
key. They all
remain so until you actually meet that person and verify that they are who they 
say they
are. You carefully check their passport their driving licence.

But gnupg has not got a passport or a driving license. The only way you can 
check if gnupg
is real is to check if it's running on your computer gpg --version - this will 
tell you if
you have the software installed. If it's installed and working correctly it 
must be real.

What if that fails? Well you do the same thing gpg2 --version and hope that 
Verner does not
pop up and say Hello.

David


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