Re: Core release, Wed

2005-07-21 Thread Adam Fedor


On Jul 21, 2005, at 4:31 PM, Fred Kiefer wrote:
Are you making a release of GUI and back as well? In the last few days 
I
did get the basic cairo backend working again on the changed cairo 
code.
If the back release isn't due in the next few days I'll add that code 
to

CVS, if it's going out soon, I'll wait til after that.

Greg asked me to hold Gui until he checks some things. I don't know how 
long that will be.




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Re: Core release, Wed

2005-07-21 Thread Gregory John Casamento
All,

--- Adam Fedor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jul 21, 2005, at 4:31 PM, Fred Kiefer wrote:
  Are you making a release of GUI and back as well? In the last few days 
  I
  did get the basic cairo backend working again on the changed cairo 
  code.
  If the back release isn't due in the next few days I'll add that code 
  to
  CVS, if it's going out soon, I'll wait til after that.
 
 Greg asked me to hold Gui until he checks some things. I don't know how 
 long that will be.

I'm done.  I needed to check a change I made to GSWindowTemplate for custom
window classes.  My tests indicate it's working properly.

Please go ahead with the release.  Sorry for the delay, but I was at work a
little late today. :)

Thanks, GJC

Gregory John Casamento 
-- CEO/President Open Logic Corp. (A MD Corp.)
## Maintainer of Gorm (IB Equiv.) for GNUstep.


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Re: Core release, Wed

2005-07-20 Thread Adam Fedor


On Jul 20, 2005, at 6:14 AM, Nicola Pero wrote:

I believe the problem is that if you switch to the new -make package, 
you
have to recompile everything from scratch (which I didn't, I reverted 
to

the old gnustep-make as you did). :-(

My understanding is that before the change, we linked a tool against
-lgnustep-base and -lobjc.  gnustep-base itself was not linked against
libobjc.

After the change, we now link a tool just against -lgnustep-base.
gnustep-base itself is now linked to libobjc.

So if your gnustep-base was built with the old gnustep-make, but you're
using the new gnustep-make to link a tool, libobjc is not linked into
gnustep-base (old building style), and will not be linked into the tool
(new building style), so you get undefined symbols because libobjc is
never linked.

Rebuilding only gnustep-base might be enough to fix the problem ... I'd
still rebuild everything just to be sure.

This makes upgrades a bit cumbersome as you have to upgrade everything,
but well that's why we're making a major release I suppose. ;-)



Well, I can revert the make part of the patch. It shouldn't be a 
problem to have lobjc linked multiple times.




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Re: Core release, Wed

2005-07-20 Thread Nicola Pero

  This makes upgrades a bit cumbersome as you have to upgrade everything,
  but well that's why we're making a major release I suppose. ;-)
 
 
 Well, I can revert the make part of the patch. It shouldn't be a 
 problem to have lobjc linked multiple times.

My personal suggestion would be to leave the change in, but add a clear
explanation (that you need to recompile everything) in the release notes.

Eg, taking us (Brainstorm/Opera Telecom) as an example, ordinately
rebuilding all software on our live systems when we do our next upgrade
should not be too much of a problem ... the important thing is that we
know we have to do it!  :-)

I'm happy with any other solution (including reverting the make part of
the patch), I don't think it is particularly important -- the most
important thing is having a clear understanding of what is needed to
upgrade without problems, and communicating it to users.

Thanks



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Re: Core release, Wed

2005-07-18 Thread Adam Fedor


On Jul 18, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Nicola Pero wrote:




I'm mostly satisfied with the libraries now, which is to say, I don't
really have any time to make any significant changes. So I'll plan on
freezing the release this Wednesday. Unless there are any objections.


The Windows pseudo-framework support needs more polishing ...  
hopefully I
can do some more tomorrow (there are nice patches and suggestions 
pending

-- thanks!).

It's probably not a release-critical issue though ?



Yes. Do what you can do.  I find that things don't really get tested 
until after I make a release anyway. So it's more than likely I'll have 
a patch release within a few weeks.




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Re: Core release, Wed

2005-07-18 Thread Fred Kiefer
Adam Fedor wrote:
 I'm mostly satisfied with the libraries now, which is to say, I don't
 really have any time to make any significant changes. So I'll plan on
 freezing the release this Wednesday. Unless there are any objections.
 
Fine for me. I am still investigating on how best to implement the
pattern colours, so this will only go into the release after.

Cheers
Fred


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