Re: New features

2009-11-01 Thread Fred Kiefer
Germán Arias schrieb:
> Hi Fred, If you are agree I will add the variables
> GSUseWindowFrameColorToMenu and GSMenuItemsBordered to GUI, but I don't
> know in what file are seated the defaults values of the variables. 
> 
> And I don't know if you are agree to add GSTaskBar (or whatever you want
> call it). To do this I need add some changes on NSApplication and
> NSWindow, and add another variable for use this, maybe GSUseGSTaskBar.
> Of course this need a tool that I call "gstb". Greetings. 

Hi German,

as for the changes to the menu drawing I would prefer to see the whole
drawing here moved over into GSTheme and then it would be very simple to
implement everything you want to do by a new specialised theme that just
draws the menu differently. There isn't much point in inventing a
special mechanism to handle one specific drawing aspect when there
already is a perfect concept to deal with the whole thing.

Specifically for the menu item colour I am thinking about making the
system extension colour list, that is already used in GSToolbarView an
official GNUstep mechanism, move the code over to NSColor and to add all
the other colour definitions we have scattered in GNUstep gui (I think
NSTableView uses some, hints to other places are welcome). That way a
theme would just need to override one extra colour list.

Is this a feasible approach for you? Or do you see a reason to do things
differently?

As for GSTaskBar I already replied on the discussion list. What I would
like to know about the implementation is what change will be required in
NSApplication and NSWindow. We should try to come up with a generic way
to handle application icons here, so that we don't need to change our
gui code the next time somebody comes up with an idea for a task bar tool.

Fred


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Re: New features

2009-11-01 Thread Germán Arias
El dom, 01-11-2009 a las 17:29 +0100, Fred Kiefer escribió:
> Germán Arias schrieb:
> > Hi Fred, If you are agree I will add the variables
> > GSUseWindowFrameColorToMenu and GSMenuItemsBordered to GUI, but I don't
> > know in what file are seated the defaults values of the variables. 
> > 
> > And I don't know if you are agree to add GSTaskBar (or whatever you want
> > call it). To do this I need add some changes on NSApplication and
> > NSWindow, and add another variable for use this, maybe GSUseGSTaskBar.
> > Of course this need a tool that I call "gstb". Greetings. 
> 
> Hi German,
> 
> as for the changes to the menu drawing I would prefer to see the whole
> drawing here moved over into GSTheme and then it would be very simple to
> implement everything you want to do by a new specialised theme that just
> draws the menu differently. There isn't much point in inventing a
> special mechanism to handle one specific drawing aspect when there
> already is a perfect concept to deal with the whole thing.

To me this is good, the reason because I use a variable is because was
the more easy way (At this moment I don't understand exactly how GSTheme
work).

> 
> Specifically for the menu item colour I am thinking about making the
> system extension colour list, that is already used in GSToolbarView an
> official GNUstep mechanism, move the code over to NSColor and to add all
> the other colour definitions we have scattered in GNUstep gui (I think
> NSTableView uses some, hints to other places are welcome). That way a
> theme would just need to override one extra colour list.
> 
> Is this a feasible approach for you? Or do you see a reason to do things
> differently?

in fact, that was my first intention on this. But when I saw that there
wasn't a color for this, then I changed this on NSTitleView. But of
course, a new color on this list is better.


> 
> As for GSTaskBar I already replied on the discussion list. What I would
> like to know about the implementation is what change will be required in
> NSApplication and NSWindow. We should try to come up with a generic way
> to handle application icons here, so that we don't need to change our
> gui code the next time somebody comes up with an idea for a task bar tool.
> 
> Fred



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Re: New features

2009-11-01 Thread Riccardo Mottola

Hi,


Specifically for the menu item colour I am thinking about making the
system extension colour list, that is already used in GSToolbarView an
official GNUstep mechanism, move the code over to NSColor and to add all
the other colour definitions we have scattered in GNUstep gui (I think
NSTableView uses some, hints to other places are welcome). That way a
theme would just need to override one extra colour list.

Is this a feasible approach for you? Or do you see a reason to do things
differently?
  


Having a separate color for the "menu bar" and for the menus themselves 
would help also in making a better Windows theme, since WinXP and Vista 
have separate colors for that. Thank you.

As for GSTaskBar I already replied on the discussion list. What I would
like to know about the implementation is what change will be required in
NSApplication and NSWindow. We should try to come up with a generic way
to handle application icons here, so that we don't need to change our
gui code the next time somebody comes up with an idea for a task bar tool.
  

I miss to understand what's really about too.

Riccardo


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