Re: Optimizing OA Self-Archiving Mandates

2007-11-30 Thread FrederickFriend
Trade unions may not strike over copyright, but I still have the bruises to
prove that copyright can cause a furore. At UCL a few years ago I dared to
suggest that UCL might own the copyright in some of the work of its academic
staff. I was vilified internally, the AUT (as it was then) were up in arms,
and I was pilloried in "Private Eye" for daring to make the suggestion. As
you can tell I survived to tell the tale, and appearing in "Private Eye" did
wonders for my image, but don't under-estimate the seething passions under
the calm surface of copyright.

Fred Friend

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From: "j.f.rowl...@lboro.ac.uk" 
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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: Optimizing OA Self-Archiving Mandates


'the general fear of the employer about possible trade union action based on
copyright issues relating to academic research'

A fanciful argument.  As Stevan often points out, scholarly papers - the
subject of this forum - are not money-making propositions anyway.  Campus
trade unions and university managements have much more important issues to
fight about.  I can't imagine a strike about copyright!

Fytton Rowland, Loughborough University, UK (President, Loughborough
University branch of the Association of University Teachers, 1999-2003)


Re: Optimizing OA Self-Archiving Mandates

2007-11-30 Thread j.f.rowl...@lboro.ac.uk
'the general fear of the employer about possible trade union action based on 
copyright issues relating to academic research'

A fanciful argument.  As Stevan often points out, scholarly papers - the 
subject of this forum - are not money-making propositions anyway.  Campus trade 
unions and university managements have much more important issues to fight 
about.  I can't imagine a strike about copyright!

Fytton Rowland, Loughborough University, UK (President, Loughborough University 
branch of the Association of University Teachers, 1999-2003)


Re: Optimizing OA Self-Archiving Mandates

2007-11-30 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Talat Chaudhri [tac] wrote:

>   [A] reason why it might be that student theses are mandated sooner
>   than staff research [is] the general fear of the employer about
>   possible trade union action based on copyright issues relating to
>   academic research

Talat, this is the canard that institutional OA activists like you should
set as your highest priority target for debunking! I think that it is an
even bigger obstacle to the adoption of Green OA self-archiving mandates
than the (equally groundless) worry that staff would resent or fail to
comply with a mandate.

There is a simple, legal, decisive, and universal solution to all
copyright-related worries: Do not mandate OA. Mandate *deposit*, and leave
the decision as to whether to set access to the deposit as Open Access
or Closed Access (only the bibliographic metadata accessible) up to
the author.

This is the Immediate-Deposit/Optional-Access (ID/OA) mandate, and it is
the default mandate that all OA activists should be aiming for (unless,
of course, they can get an even stronger one without any opposition or
delay).

Nature, and human nature, will take care of the rest.

The Immediate-Deposit/Optional Access (ID/OA) Mandate:
Rationale and Model
http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/71-guid.html

Optimizing OA Self-Archiving Mandates:
What? Where? When? Why? How?
http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/136-guid.html

How the Immediate-Deposit/Optional-Access Mandate
+ the "Fair Use" Button Work
http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/274-guid.html

Stevan Harnad
AMERICAN SCIENTIST OPEN ACCESS FORUM:
http://amsci-forum.amsci.org/archives/American-Scientist-Open-Access-Forum.h
tml
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/

UNIVERSITIES and RESEARCH FUNDERS:
If you have adopted or plan to adopt a policy of providing Open Access
to your own research article output, please describe your policy at:
http://www.eprints.org/signup/sign.php
http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/71-guid.html
http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/136-guid.html

OPEN-ACCESS-PROVISION POLICY:
BOAI-1 ("Green"): Publish your article in a suitable toll-access journal
http://romeo.eprints.org/
OR
BOAI-2 ("Gold"): Publish your article in an open-access journal if/when
a suitable one exists.
http://www.doaj.org/
AND
in BOTH cases self-archive a supplementary version of your article
in your own institutional repository.
http://www.eprints.org/self-faq/
http://archives.eprints.org/
http://openaccess.eprints.org/


Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-30 Thread Talat Chaudhri [tac]
Hi Steve, 

Thanks for your kind remarks.

We are fortunate in that the repository came about as an experimental
project in the IT section of our converged library/IT department but was
then capitalised upon by a forward thinking IS director, and it appears
that our luck is holding with two pro VCs who so far have seemed to show
great interest in OA. This seems thus far to be giving the levers that,
as you say, some lack. I am the one managing the repository, but my
superiors in the library are supportive and allow me possibly the most
significant role in forming policy. I'm sure other models also work with
equal success. I just hope that our progress thus far will translate
into a mandate at some point.

In general you are quite right to say that the gap, in terms of both
understanding and policy agenda, between us and the senior managers
needs to be bridged. I feel that it is part of my job to make those
connections, but it may not be the same for every repository manager or
administrator, as some institutions have a much less devolved structure
than ours.

> The institutional mandate is the affirmation of the *institutional*
repository.

Well, considering that there are certain costs involved, and the success
of individual repositories varies, I can understand why some senior
managers take a cautious approach, especially as copyright risk is also
involved. Perhaps seeing it from their point of view may help us bridge
the gap.

I'd be interested to hear how other repository projects came about and
about the structure by which they are managed, to compare with our
experience. I hope this response is a useful synopsis of ours.

Thanks,


Talat


Re: Optimizing OA Self-Archiving Mandates

2007-11-30 Thread Jean-Claude Gu�don
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A much better way is to work with the union. Unions are not against
open access, especially when they understand the issues. The problem
is more one of ignorance than one of hostility.

Student unions can also be approached.

Jean-Claude Guédon


Le vendredi 30 novembre 2007 à 16:55 +, FrederickFriend a écrit :

 Trade unions may not strike over copyright, but I still have the bruises to
prove that copyright can cause a furore. At UCL a few years ago I dared to
suggest that UCL might own the copyright in some of the work of its academic
staff. I was vilified internally, the AUT (as it was then) were up in arms,
and I was pilloried in "Private Eye" for daring to make the suggestion. As
you can tell I survived to tell the tale, and appearing in "Private Eye" did
wonders for my image, but don't under-estimate the seething passions under
the calm surface of copyright.

Fred Friend

- Original Message -
From: "j.f.rowl...@lboro.ac.uk" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: Optimizing OA Self-Archiving Mandates


'the general fear of the employer about possible trade union action based on
copyright issues relating to academic research'

A fanciful argument.  As Stevan often points out, scholarly papers - the
subject of this forum - are not money-making propositions anyway.  Campus
trade unions and university managements have much more important issues to
fight about.  I can't imagine a strike about copyright!

Fytton Rowland, Loughborough University, UK (President, Loughborough
University branch of the Association of University Teachers, 1999-2003)




Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-30 Thread Steve Hitchcock
Talat has wonderful energy and enthusiasm for building his institution's
repository by means of advocacy, and Arthur presents clear evidence that
without a mandate there is an upper limit to the success of that approach.
Talat's best alternative, as for all repository managers in a similar
position, is the patchwork mandate.

The problem is that many, perhaps most, repository managers do not have the
levers for mandates. These discussions of practical repository issues,
whether it concerns mandates, copyright, really anything to do with policy,
appear to omit the key people, those who bear responsibility for the
institution's repository. They are:

1 The senior manager(s) who took the decision to introduce a repository
2 The manager within the part of the institution that is responsible for
managing the repository

They may or may not be the same person. They hold the keys to policy. But
who are they, and where are they? How does this relationship work, and how
much does it differ across institutions? What do they want from their IR? We
need to hear from them and find out what works best, for their benefit and
for others to follow.

Repository managers work within a framework determined, either actively or
passively, by 1 and/or 2, and it may not be a very comfortable place at all,
not least because 2 could be in a horribly conflicted or compromised
position too. I wonder if we are really aware of this reality.

Institutional mandates ultimately need to be authorised from the very top,
and much effort is being put into making those people aware of the issues.
But before we get there we have to understand the gap in the chain between
the most senior managers and the day-to-day repository manager. We have to
be more transparent about what is going on in that gap before we will see
management for the progress and benefit of repositories and the
institutions, rather than for IRs as awkward inconveniences to be tolerated
until the fuss dies down.

Repositories will not begin to reach out successfully to authors as
depositors - and this is what I think is behind the success of mandates too
- until they have clearly defined, effective management structures for
repositories within institutions. That is the essence of the institutional
repository, rather than the repository within the institution.

The institutional mandate is the affirmation of the *institutional*
repository.

Steve Hitchcock
IAM Group, School of Electronics and Computer Science
University of Southampton, SO17 1BJ, UK
Email: sh...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 7698Fax: +44 (0)23 8059 2865



Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-30 Thread Talat Chaudhri [tac]
Hi Arthur,

I am glad that you did not intend what came across as a slight to those
engaging in grass-roots advocacy where their institutions are still
relying on the voluntarist approach and have not yet achieved a mandate.
As I have said, even though I don't dispute that voluntarism fails to
fill repositories, it does form an important part of the initial
development of a repository - and it is important for yourselves as
advocates nearer to the political end of OA, with established
repositories youselves, to cast your minds back to how things used to be
when you were in this situation: the majority of repositories are not
yet so well established, as you know.

I take this approach because the case studies and content that have
already arisen from my engagement with academics volunteering to archive
their work form a major part of the resources that I can use to convince
the departments and management to support a mandate, as well as to raise
awareness amongst other academics before the event, essentially to get
them on side whether or not they are in practice too fundamentally lazy
to actually archive their papers without a prior mandate in place. I am
not, as you put it, fooling myself into thinking that I can get
compliance through voluntarism, but this is where we must start. I have
absolutely no choice in this matter, of course. I must lay the
groundwork on which a future mandate can work. Without such groundwork,
as I maintain, no mandate would be able to work in practice. In essence,
we need the first 15-20% before the rest is within our reach.

Thank you for the useful information about the Patchwork Mandate, which
I will look at with great interest. Another reason why it might be that
student theses are mandated sooner than staff research (apart from the
general fear of the employer about possible trade union action based on
copyright issues relating to academic research) is highlighted by the
experience of the average cataloguing librarian: the paper copies are
expensive and time-consuming to process, so it is an obvious cost
advantage to both students and libraries to work towards dispensing with
them.

With regard to your last point, that you seek to promote realism rather
than discourage repository managers on this list, this is very welcome
indeed to hear. I am very grateful for the information, as I have no
doubt other repository managers are too. If you bear in mind the needs
of those managing embryonic repositories, please consider more often the
path as well as the goal, then perhaps no more of these unnecessary
disagreements will arise between us.

With best wishes,


Talat


Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-30 Thread Arthur Sale
Talat

Thank you for your robust reply, Stevan has already responded to most of
your points, but I should pick up a few myself since my post provoked it.

I do not say that advocacy is not useful. It is, mainly for acculturing
researchers, repository and departmental managers, and senior management to
the purposes of a repository. Indeed without advocacy where would we all be
now? And what am I doing writing emails like this one or the last?

What I wrote and what I will spell out again in absolutely clear language is
this: advocacy that researchers should voluntarily deposit has by itself
never achieved the filling or near-filling of a repository with all
available input (say, all papers published in a particular year). The norm
is in the range of 10 to 20% of available documents. This experience is
based on repositories on all continents, over four years of people trying
advocacy, is independent of the age of the repository, and despite every
advocacy idea that the collected intellect of repository managers can come
up with. 

No repository manager should fool themselves thinking otherwise - that their
ideas will have more effect than the rest of the world. The evidence is
absolutely incontrovertible. 100% of all universities with voluntary deposit
exhibit this feature. This applies to new foundations and those that have
been going for many years, regardless of university size. If there was one
exception I would have heard about it by now. Conversely 100% of all
universities or departments that adopt a mandate (requirement) achieve 80%
or more within three years. It probably takes this long for researchers to
internalize the minor additional workload as part of their normal required
duties.

You outlined that you were also seeking mandates. Great, and so you should
if you want to fill your repository. You also mentioned that you were trying
to get heads of departments and research directors to create local
departmental mandates. Great also. This strategy is called the Patchwork
Mandate http://dx.doi.org/10.1045/january2007-sale and is very useful while
you keep hammering away at obtuse senior executives.

You also asked if anyone knew why voluntary deposit coupled with advocacy
did not achieve significant goals. Unfortunately many universities which
fail in this way are reluctant to discuss why they have failed, probably
because they don't want to admit it even to themselves. Those that have
succeeded, all with institutional or departmental mandates, are very willing
to talk.

What seems clear is the primary answer I gave you: it is voluntary avoidable
work, and under pressure of work and other more enjoyable activities will be
avoided by most. However, there seems to be another factor working that
Stevan did not mention: researchers who are converted, do not stay
converted. So as rapidly as advocates convert new persons to deposit, others
backslide and drop out, for the above reason.

I can even show you a big university in Australia whose deposit-advocacy
policies are second to none in my opinion. They give out prizes and
publicise the most downloaded author, they run feature articles in the house
magazine and publish leaderboards, they provide usage statistics to their
authors, and they are well-known in the community for their advocacy policy.
They achieved close to the 20% of available documents annually that I
mentioned as the likely upper limit for voluntary policies. However, when
you look at the facts, in the last six months, the deposit rate has been
declining. The reasons why are not clear, but there could be factors such as
loss of converts, becoming blasé, other matters taking priority, etc. What
is not in dispute though is that the deposit rate is not going up! That's
factual.

So let's revisit the Patchwork Mandate. This is a strategy for divide and
conquer. Perhaps an advocate like yourself can manage to keep a set of
departmental heads or research directors converted by assiduous attention,
and then rely on them promulgating a requirement (mandate) to their staff.
When this set becomes big enough, the right people will be there for making
this requirement a university policy.

And as an aside, may I point out that over 50% of Australian universities
mandate that PhD graduates must deposit their final theses in a repository
indexed at http://adt.caul.edu.au/, and the number is steadily growing. Why?
The reason is equally obvious. Of course, it much easier for a university to
mandate student behavior than staff behavior.

Finally, let me say that I have no wish or intention of discouraging you or
anyone else. Indeed the reverse. But I want you and all people on this list
to be realists in their appreciation of the facts, which is why I, at least,
spend time writing papers and these posts. Better to act with factual
knowledge than delude yourself in ignorance. Best wishes.

Arthur Sale
Professor of Computer Science
University of Tasmania



Information about MEPs

2007-11-30 Thread N . Miradon
Information about MEPs (was Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback)

Thierry Chanier wrote
>Could someone give more information about which
>MEP belonging to which country are in favour of moving ?[1]

I have a (rather rough) Excel file of MEP's names,
addresses, and interests [2].

Copy already sent to Thierry Chanier.

I am happy to send this Excel to any one else who wants to
know about their MEP.

N.Miradon

[1]
http://listserver.sigmaxi.org/sc/wa.exe?A2=ind07&L=american-scientist-open-access-forum&D=1&O=D&F=l&S=&P=25


[2] made from the c.v.s of MEPs at
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/expert/alphaOrder.do?letter=A
...
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/expert/alphaOrder.do?letter=Z