[GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

2012-01-04 Thread Arthur Sale
Thank you Andrew.  Exactly true, but that simply says that the task is
harder; it does not make it undesirable. I simply am not interested in
counting articles except as this helps in establishing the question I asked.
Counting articles has been done many times by people with more money than I
have and the estimates are still quite wide-spread, though satisfactory as
engineering estimates. Similar problems arise win publications with the fake
journals and the quality spectrum (exactly the same problem you referred to
in relation to counting researchers).

 

To tease out another category you did not mention I have coined the terms 

(1)'producing researcher' to be a person who adds to the scholarly
literature as an author or co-author at least once every three years, and

(2)'non-productive researcher' as a person who researches the scholarly
literature but has no intention of adding to the corpus, such as a teacher
(school to university-level), a science journalist, most undergraduate
students, or a member of the general public.

The words 'active' vs 'non-active' simply will not do. 

 

I have been pointed to a UNESCO Report which is proving very useful. I'll
post something when I have more to write and a better estimate than 1M  N
10M.

 

Best wishes

 

Arthur Sale

University of Tasmania, Australia

 

-Original Message-
From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf
Of Andrew Odlyzko
Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2012 12:02 AM
To: goal at eprints.org
Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

 

Arthur,

 

There is far more difficulty in counting researchers than in counting

articles.  The problem is the inherent ambiguity in the term researcher.

Who qualifies?  How do you tell the difference between research and

development?  What do you do about all the support staff (such as the

technicians who run the often ultra-sophisticated equipment)?  How do

you count students (graduate and undergraduate) who get involved in

researchy projects?

 

One can certainly do something, but one needs to define the terms

one uses with some precision.

 

Andrew

 

 

 

 

Arthur Sale ahjs at ozemail.com.au wrote:

 

 Thank you Arif.  I have read the article this afternoon (3 January) and
will

 download and look through your thesis asap.

 

  

 

 However I feel compelled to re-emphasize to the list that I am not looking

 for an estimate of how many articles are published annually, or ever. The

 first of those pieces of data is useful for estimating what I really want
to

 know: how many active researchers are employed in year y? Particularly
2011.

 Of course, it will be useful to have article counts by discipline, however

 rough, because publication practices differ widely between disciplines. A

 publication in some disciplines is worth far less than in others, the
number

 of authors/article differs widely, and journal prestige varies at least as

 much.

 

  

 

 There are many other confusing factors in estimates based on article

 production rates which I touched on in my reply to Stevan Harnad, not
least

 of which is the frequency of publication of equally highly respected

 researchers. Some publish rarely (say once every three years), others

 produce multiple articles per year. There are distributions in all these

 things which we should understand. If I mention just one, the huge
disparity

 between articles/title in ISI and non-ISI journals listed in your article

 (111 vs 26, from Bjork et al) must give anyone cause to reflect! That's
over

 4:1, too big to gloss over.

 

  

 

 I know of course that I cannot determine exactly the number of researchers

 in the world, any more than anyone else can determine exactly how many

 articles were written or published.  As an engineer in a previous career,

 absolute precision in these matters is not required, rather sufficient

 confidence that we are in the right ballpark. Anyway, thank you very much

 for your help and links, which I greatly appreciate.

 

  

 

 Arthur Sale

 

 University of Tasmania

 

  

 

  

 

 From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On 
 Behalf

 Of Arif Jinha

 Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012 5:26 AM

 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)

 Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

 

  

 

 Arthur,

 

  

 

 You're not going to be able to determine the exact number of researchers
in

 the world and you will have to make good estimates. But there are direct

 relationships between the number of researchers, the number of articles

 published annually and the number of active peer-reviewed journals. Good

 sources for methodology are my thesis

 http://arif.jinhabrothers.com/sites/arif.jinhabrothers.com/files/aj.pdf
-

 http://arif.jinhabrothers.com/sites/arif.jinhabrothers.com/files/aj.pdf

 (defended and submitted this fall)

 

 - Article 50 million -


http://www.mendeley.com/research/article

[GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

2012-01-04 Thread Arthur Sale

Thank you Andrew.  Exactly true, but that simply says that the task is harder;
it does not make it undesirable. I simply am not interested in counting articles
except as this helps in establishing the question I asked. Counting articles has
been done many times by people with more money than I have and the estimates are
still quite wide-spread, though satisfactory as engineering estimates. Similar
problems arise win publications with the fake journals and the quality spectrum
(exactly the same problem you referred to in relation to counting researchers).

 

To tease out another category you did not mention I have coined the terms

(1)    'producing researcher' to be a person who adds to the scholarly
literature as an author or co-author at least once every three years, and

(2)    'non-productive researcher' as a person who researches the scholarly
literature but has no intention of adding to the corpus, such as a teacher
(school to university-level), a science journalist, most undergraduate students,
or a member of the general public.

The words 'active' vs 'non-active' simply will not do.

 

I have been pointed to a UNESCO Report which is proving very useful. I’ll post
something when I have more to write and a better estimate than 1M  N 10M.

 

Best wishes

 

Arthur Sale

University of Tasmania, Australia

 

-Original Message-
From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of
Andrew Odlyzko
Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2012 12:02 AM
To: goal@eprints.org
Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

 

Arthur,

 

There is far more difficulty in counting researchers than in counting

articles.  The problem is the inherent ambiguity in the term researcher.

Who qualifies?  How do you tell the difference between research and

development?  What do you do about all the support staff (such as the

technicians who run the often ultra-sophisticated equipment)?  How do

you count students (graduate and undergraduate) who get involved in

researchy projects?

 

One can certainly do something, but one needs to define the terms

one uses with some precision.

 

Andrew

 

 

 

 

Arthur Sale a...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 

 Thank you Arif.  I have read the article this afternoon (3 January) and will

 download and look through your thesis asap.

 

 

 

 However I feel compelled to re-emphasize to the list that I am not looking

 for an estimate of how many articles are published annually, or ever. The

 first of those pieces of data is useful for estimating what I really want to

 know: how many active researchers are employed in year y? Particularly 2011.

 Of course, it will be useful to have article counts by discipline, however

 rough, because publication practices differ widely between disciplines. A

 publication in some disciplines is worth far less than in others, the number

 of authors/article differs widely, and journal prestige varies at least as

 much.

 

 

 

 There are many other confusing factors in estimates based on article

 production rates which I touched on in my reply to Stevan Harnad, not least

 of which is the frequency of publication of equally highly respected

 researchers. Some publish rarely (say once every three years), others

 produce multiple articles per year. There are distributions in all these

 things which we should understand. If I mention just one, the huge disparity

 between articles/title in ISI and non-ISI journals listed in your article

 (111 vs 26, from Bjork et al) must give anyone cause to reflect! That's over

 4:1, too big to gloss over.

 

 

 

 I know of course that I cannot determine exactly the number of researchers

 in the world, any more than anyone else can determine exactly how many

 articles were written or published.  As an engineer in a previous career,

 absolute precision in these matters is not required, rather sufficient

 confidence that we are in the right ballpark. Anyway, thank you very much

 for your help and links, which I greatly appreciate.

 

 

 

 Arthur Sale

 

 University of Tasmania

 

 

 

 

 

 From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf

 Of Arif Jinha

 Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012 5:26 AM

 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)

 Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

 

 

 

 Arthur,

 

 

 

 You're not going to be able to determine the exact number of researchers in

 the world and you will have to make good estimates. But there are direct

 relationships between the number of researchers, the number of articles

 published annually and the number of active peer-reviewed journals. Good

 sources for methodology are my thesis

 http://arif.jinhabrothers.com/sites/arif.jinhabrothers.com/files/aj.pdf -

 http://arif.jinhabrothers.com/sites/arif.jinhabrothers.com/files/aj.pdf

 (defended and submitted this fall)

 

 - Article 50 million -

 http

[GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

2012-01-04 Thread Jan Velterop
 about the nature of reality, all of which were 
rejected by modern physics 50 years ago. 

University today is oppression by debt and drudgery and old white folks who feel
g guilty about global decline.  This will be the case until it is occupied by th
e love of wisdom again.  Access to scholarship and Open Science marks the end of
 exclusivity to scholarship reserved for elites who are members of rich institut
ions, and ends the cultural hegemony of accreditated knowledge. 

Tomorrow's researchers are going to take knowledge into vast new dimensions of i
ntegrated understanding together with the need to raise children in a world that
 one must admit is schizoprhenic, bipolar and personality-disordered! It is chao
tic and it can only be tolerated by a student who becomes a Master, who grounds 
themselves in enlightenment - intellectual, spiritual, mystical and devotional. 
 My child's studies in Sufism will be as important as their studies in maths. Th
ere is no university today that understands any of this. 

Because the OA trend is irreversible and people do not require nor reasonably sh
ould place trust in peer-review anymore, all of the topics we are now interested
 in quickly fade, and we become interested in the action of sharing knowledge an
d being their own filter, doing it rather than letting institutions do it.  It w
ould be unwise for today's university teachers to place great emphasis on publis
hing in journals anyway, but it would be wise for them to teach their students h
ow to be leaders in contemporary thought, how to navigate truth and reality, and
 to be informationally wise, and to be fearless about the Openness paradigm - sh
are your work! For me it's like the Blues Brothers - 'I'm on a mission from God'
. lol. 

Now that I've finished my MA, I don't have to conform anymore and I can be mysel
f again - mystic-philosopher-entrepreneur-occupier.  There is a lot of bitternes
s I need to transform into beauty, which is why I Occupy myself with the Creativ
e Arts at the moment. Poetry, literature, music, visual art, photography, creati
ve capitalism and mutual aid.  This was dashed off quickly, and I really ought t
o be on my zafu doing anapasati (that's Buddhist for 'sitting around').  Do you 
think, though, that there will ever space in the future for the Bohemian at univ
ersity - the Alan Watts type? I hope so.  Otherwise, you'll just say to people '
I got this strange letter from this student who is probably mentally ill or on d
rugs'.  Ugggh. That is the Brave New World we are in.

If this stuff is less fun and interesting to read than my thesis, I've lost you!
 I wish you greatness in life, the depth of being human, and a good death.

'I believe that unconditional love and unarmed truth will have the final say in 
reality' - MLK.

all the best,

Arif

yo

  - Original Message - 
  From: Arthur Sale 
  To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)' 
  Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:43 PM
  Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?


  Thank you Arif.  I have read the article this afternoon (3 January) and will d
ownload and look through your thesis asap.

   

  However I feel compelled to re-emphasize to the list that I am not looking for
 an estimate of how many articles are published annually, or ever. The first of 
those pieces of data is useful for estimating what I really want to know: how ma
ny active researchers are employed in year y? Particularly 2011. Of course, it w
ill be useful to have article counts by discipline, however rough, because publi
cation practices differ widely between disciplines. A publication in some discip
lines is worth far less than in others, the number of authors/article differs wi
dely, and journal prestige varies at least as much.

   

  There are many other confusing factors in estimates based on article productio
n rates which I touched on in my reply to Stevan Harnad, not least of which is t
he frequency of publication of equally highly respected researchers. Some publis
h rarely (say once every three years), others produce multiple articles per year
. There are distributions in all these things which we should understand. If I m
ention just one, the huge disparity between articles/title in ISI and non-ISI jo
urnals listed in your article (111 vs 26, from Bjork et al) must give anyone cau
se to reflect! That's over 4:1, too big to gloss over.

   

  I know of course that I cannot determine exactly the number of researchers in 
the world, any more than anyone else can determine exactly how many articles wer
e written or published.  As an engineer in a previous career, absolute precision
 in these matters is not required, rather sufficient confidence that we are in t
he right ballpark. Anyway, thank you very much for your help and links, which I 
greatly appreciate.

   

  Arthur Sale

  University of Tasmania

   

   

  From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of 
Arif Jinha
  Sent

[GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

2012-01-03 Thread Arif Jinha
 anymore and I can be 
myself again - mystic-philosopher-entrepreneur-occupier.  There is a lot of 
bitterness I need to transform into beauty, which is why I Occupy myself with 
the Creative Arts at the moment. Poetry, literature, music, visual art, 
photography, creative capitalism and mutual aid.  This was dashed off quickly, 
and I really ought to be on my zafu doing anapasati (that's Buddhist for 
'sitting around').  Do you think, though, that there will ever space in the 
future for the Bohemian at university - the Alan Watts type? I hope so.  
Otherwise, you'll just say to people 'I got this strange letter from this 
student who is probably mentally ill or on drugs'.  Ugggh. That is the Brave 
New World we are in.

If this stuff is less fun and interesting to read than my thesis, I've lost 
you! I wish you greatness in life, the depth of being human, and a good death.

'I believe that unconditional love and unarmed truth will have the final say in 
reality' - MLK.

all the best,

Arif

yo

  - Original Message - 
  From: Arthur Sale 
  To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)' 
  Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:43 PM
  Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?


  Thank you Arif.  I have read the article this afternoon (3 January) and will 
download and look through your thesis asap.

   

  However I feel compelled to re-emphasize to the list that I am not looking 
for an estimate of how many articles are published annually, or ever. The first 
of those pieces of data is useful for estimating what I really want to know: 
how many active researchers are employed in year y? Particularly 2011. Of 
course, it will be useful to have article counts by discipline, however rough, 
because publication practices differ widely between disciplines. A publication 
in some disciplines is worth far less than in others, the number of 
authors/article differs widely, and journal prestige varies at least as much.

   

  There are many other confusing factors in estimates based on article 
production rates which I touched on in my reply to Stevan Harnad, not least of 
which is the frequency of publication of equally highly respected researchers. 
Some publish rarely (say once every three years), others produce multiple 
articles per year. There are distributions in all these things which we should 
understand. If I mention just one, the huge disparity between articles/title in 
ISI and non-ISI journals listed in your article (111 vs 26, from Bjork et al) 
must give anyone cause to reflect! That's over 4:1, too big to gloss over.

   

  I know of course that I cannot determine exactly the number of researchers in 
the world, any more than anyone else can determine exactly how many articles 
were written or published.  As an engineer in a previous career, absolute 
precision in these matters is not required, rather sufficient confidence that 
we are in the right ballpark. Anyway, thank you very much for your help and 
links, which I greatly appreciate.

   

  Arthur Sale

  University of Tasmania

   

   

  From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On 
Behalf Of Arif Jinha
  Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012 5:26 AM
  To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
  Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

   

  Arthur,

   

  You're not going to be able to determine the exact number of researchers in 
the world and you will have to make good estimates. But there are direct 
relationships between the number of researchers, the number of articles 
published annually and the number of active peer-reviewed journals. Good 
sources for methodology are my thesis - 
http://arif.jinhabrothers.com/sites/arif.jinhabrothers.com/files/aj.pdf 
(defended and submitted this fall)

  - Article 50 million - 
http://www.mendeley.com/research/article-50-million-estimate-number-scholarly-articles-existence-6/

  Methods and data are based chiefly on:

  Bjork et al's studies on OA share growth 2006 to current

  Mabe and Amin, Tenopir and King - works 1990s to early 2000s

  Derek De Sallo Price - 1960s - the 'father of scientometrics.

  - you can get the number of article from Bjork's methods and data and mine.

  - you can get the number of researchers from UN data but there is ratio of 
researchers to publishing researchers, and publishing researchers publish an 
average of 1 article per year, so if you can determine good estimate for that 
ratio you are on your way. You have good data on growth rates of researchers, 
articles and journals, but growth rates have increased dramatically since 2000 
as demonstrated in my thesis.  It got a bit complex and I tried to sort it best 
I could in my thesis.

   

  all the best,

   

  Arif

   

   

   

  - Original Message - 

From: Arthur Sale 

To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)' 

Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:25 PM

Subject: [GOAL] How many researchers

[GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

2012-01-03 Thread Arthur Sale

Thank you Arif.  I have read the article this afternoon (3 January) and will
download and look through your thesis asap.

 

However I feel compelled to re-emphasize to the list that I am not looking for
an estimate of how many articles are published annually, or ever. The first of
those pieces of data is useful for estimating what I really want to know: how
many active researchers are employed in year y? Particularly 2011. Of course, it
will be useful to have article counts by discipline, however rough, because
publication practices differ widely between disciplines. A publication in some
disciplines is worth far less than in others, the number of authors/article
differs widely, and journal prestige varies at least as much.

 

There are many other confusing factors in estimates based on article production
rates which I touched on in my reply to Stevan Harnad, not least of which is the
frequency of publication of equally highly respected researchers. Some publish
rarely (say once every three years), others produce multiple articles per year.
There are distributions in all these things which we should understand. If I
mention just one, the huge disparity between articles/title in ISI and non-ISI
journals listed in your article (111 vs 26, from Bjork et al) must give anyone
cause to reflect! That’s over 4:1, too big to gloss over.

 

I know of course that I cannot determine exactly the number of researchers in
the world, any more than anyone else can determine exactly how many articles
were written or published.  As an engineer in a previous career, absolute
precision in these matters is not required, rather sufficient confidence that we
are in the right ballpark. Anyway, thank you very much for your help and links,
which I greatly appreciate.

 

Arthur Sale

University of Tasmania

 

 

From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of
Arif Jinha
Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012 5:26 AM
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

 

Arthur,

 

You're not going to be able to determine the exact number of researchers in the
world and you will have to make good estimates. But there are direct
relationships between the number of researchers, the number of articles
published annually and the number of active peer-reviewed journals. Good 
sources
for methodology are my thesis 
-http://arif.jinhabrothers.com/sites/arif.jinhabrothers.com/files/aj.pdf (defend
ed and submitted this fall)

- Article 50 million 
-http://www.mendeley.com/research/article-50-million-estimate-number-scholarly-a
rticles-existence-6/

Methods and data are based chiefly on:

Bjork et al's studies on OA share growth 2006 to current

Mabe and Amin, Tenopir and King - works 1990s to early 2000s

Derek De Sallo Price - 1960s - the 'father of scientometrics.

- you can get the number of article from Bjork's methods and data and mine.

- you can get the number of researchers from UN data but there is ratio of
researchers to publishing researchers, and publishing researchers publish an
average of 1 article per year, so if you can determine good estimate for that
ratio you are on your way. You have good data on growth rates of researchers,
articles and journals, but growth rates have increased dramatically since 2000
as demonstrated in my thesis.  It got a bit complex and I tried to sort it best
I could in my thesis.

 

all the best,

 

Arif

 

 

 

- Original Message -

  From: Arthur Sale

To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)'

Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:25 PM

Subject: [GOAL] How many researchers are there?

 

I am trying to get a rough estimate of the number of active researchers in
the world. Unfortunately all the estimates seem to be as rough as the
famous Drake equation for calculating the number of technological
civilizations in the universe: in other words all the factors are
extremely fuzzy.  I seek your help. My interest is that this is the number
of people who need to adopt OA for us to have 100% OA. (Actually, we will
approach that sooner, as the average publication has more than one author
and we need only one to make it OA.

 

To share some thinking, let me take Australia. In 2011 it had 35
universities and 29,226 academic staff with a PhD. Let me assume that this
is the number of research active staff. The average per institution is
835, and this spans big universities down to small ones. Australia
produces according to the OECD 2.5% of the world’s research, so let’s
estimate the number of active researchers in the world (taking Australia
as ‘typical’ of researchers) as 29226 / 0.025 = 1,169,040 researchers in
universities. Note that I have not counted non-university research
organizations (they’ll make a small difference) nor PhD students (there is
usually a supervisor listed in the author list of any publication they
produce).

 

Let’s take another tack. I have read

[GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

2012-01-03 Thread Andrew Odlyzko
Arthur,

There is far more difficulty in counting researchers than in counting
articles.  The problem is the inherent ambiguity in the term researcher.
Who qualifies?  How do you tell the difference between research and
development?  What do you do about all the support staff (such as the
technicians who run the often ultra-sophisticated equipment)?  How do
you count students (graduate and undergraduate) who get involved in
researchy projects?

One can certainly do something, but one needs to define the terms
one uses with some precision.

Andrew




Arthur Sale a...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 Thank you Arif.  I have read the article this afternoon (3 January) and will
 download and look through your thesis asap.

  

 However I feel compelled to re-emphasize to the list that I am not looking
 for an estimate of how many articles are published annually, or ever. The
 first of those pieces of data is useful for estimating what I really want to
 know: how many active researchers are employed in year y? Particularly 2011.
 Of course, it will be useful to have article counts by discipline, however
 rough, because publication practices differ widely between disciplines. A
 publication in some disciplines is worth far less than in others, the number
 of authors/article differs widely, and journal prestige varies at least as
 much.

  

 There are many other confusing factors in estimates based on article
 production rates which I touched on in my reply to Stevan Harnad, not least
 of which is the frequency of publication of equally highly respected
 researchers. Some publish rarely (say once every three years), others
 produce multiple articles per year. There are distributions in all these
 things which we should understand. If I mention just one, the huge disparity
 between articles/title in ISI and non-ISI journals listed in your article
 (111 vs 26, from Bjork et al) must give anyone cause to reflect! That's over
 4:1, too big to gloss over.

  

 I know of course that I cannot determine exactly the number of researchers
 in the world, any more than anyone else can determine exactly how many
 articles were written or published.  As an engineer in a previous career,
 absolute precision in these matters is not required, rather sufficient
 confidence that we are in the right ballpark. Anyway, thank you very much
 for your help and links, which I greatly appreciate.

  

 Arthur Sale

 University of Tasmania

  

  

 From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf
 Of Arif Jinha
 Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012 5:26 AM
 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
 Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

  

 Arthur,

  

 You're not going to be able to determine the exact number of researchers in
 the world and you will have to make good estimates. But there are direct
 relationships between the number of researchers, the number of articles
 published annually and the number of active peer-reviewed journals. Good
 sources for methodology are my thesis
 http://arif.jinhabrothers.com/sites/arif.jinhabrothers.com/files/aj.pdf -
 http://arif.jinhabrothers.com/sites/arif.jinhabrothers.com/files/aj.pdf
 (defended and submitted this fall)

 - Article 50 million -
 http://www.mendeley.com/research/article-50-million-estimate-number-scholar
 ly-articles-existence-6/
 http://www.mendeley.com/research/article-50-million-estimate-number-scholarl
 y-articles-existence-6/

 Methods and data are based chiefly on:

 Bjork et al's studies on OA share growth 2006 to current

 Mabe and Amin, Tenopir and King - works 1990s to early 2000s

 Derek De Sallo Price - 1960s - the 'father of scientometrics.

 - you can get the number of article from Bjork's methods and data and mine.

 - you can get the number of researchers from UN data but there is ratio of
 researchers to publishing researchers, and publishing researchers publish an
 average of 1 article per year, so if you can determine good estimate for
 that ratio you are on your way. You have good data on growth rates of
 researchers, articles and journals, but growth rates have increased
 dramatically since 2000 as demonstrated in my thesis.  It got a bit complex
 and I tried to sort it best I could in my thesis.

  

 all the best,

  

 Arif

  

  

  

 - Original Message - 

 From: Arthur Sale mailto:a...@ozemail.com.au  

 To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)' mailto:goal@eprints.org


 Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:25 PM

 Subject: [GOAL] How many researchers are there?

  

 I am trying to get a rough estimate of the number of active researchers in
 the world. Unfortunately all the estimates seem to be as rough as the famous
 Drake equation for calculating the number of technological civilizations in
 the universe: in other words all the factors are extremely fuzzy.  I seek
 your help. My interest is that this is the number of people who need to
 adopt OA for us to have 100% OA. (Actually, we

[GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

2012-01-03 Thread Arif Jinha
 to conform anymore and I can be
myself again - mystic-philosopher-entrepreneur-occupier.  There is a lot of
bitterness I need to transform into beauty, which is why I Occupy myself with
the Creative Arts at the moment. Poetry, literature, music, visual art,
photography, creative capitalism and mutual aid.  This was dashed off quickly,
and I really ought to be on my zafu doing anapasati (that's Buddhist for
'sitting around').  Do you think, though, that there will ever space in the
future for the Bohemian at university - the Alan Watts type? I hope so. 
Otherwise, you'll just say to people 'I got this strange letter from this
student who is probably mentally ill or on drugs'.  Ugggh. That is the Brave 
New
World we are in.
 
If this stuff is less fun and interesting to read than my thesis, I've lost you!
I wish you greatness in life, the depth of being human, and a good death.
 
'I believe that unconditional love and unarmed truth will have the final say in
reality' - MLK.
 
all the best,
 
Arif
 
yo
 
  - Original Message -
From: Arthur Sale
To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)'
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:43 PM
Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

Thank you Arif.  I have read the article this afternoon (3 January) and
will download and look through your thesis asap.

 

However I feel compelled to re-emphasize to the list that I am not looking
for an estimate of how many articles are published annually, or ever. The
first of those pieces of data is useful for estimating what I really want
to know: how many active researchers are employed in year y? Particularly
2011. Of course, it will be useful to have article counts by discipline,
however rough, because publication practices differ widely between
disciplines. A publication in some disciplines is worth far less than in
others, the number of authors/article differs widely, and journal prestige
varies at least as much.

 

There are many other confusing factors in estimates based on article
production rates which I touched on in my reply to Stevan Harnad, not
least of which is the frequency of publication of equally highly respected
researchers. Some publish rarely (say once every three years), others
produce multiple articles per year. There are distributions in all these
things which we should understand. If I mention just one, the huge
disparity between articles/title in ISI and non-ISI journals listed in
your article (111 vs 26, from Bjork et al) must give anyone cause to
reflect! That?s over 4:1, too big to gloss over.

 

I know of course that I cannot determine exactly the number of researchers
in the world, any more than anyone else can determine exactly how many
articles were written or published.  As an engineer in a previous career,
absolute precision in these matters is not required, rather sufficient
confidence that we are in the right ballpark. Anyway, thank you very much
for your help and links, which I greatly appreciate.

 

Arthur Sale

University of Tasmania

 

 

From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf
Of Arif Jinha
Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012 5:26 AM
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

 

Arthur,

 

You're not going to be able to determine the exact number of researchers
in the world and you will have to make good estimates. But there are
direct relationships between the number of researchers, the number of
articles published annually and the number of active peer-reviewed
journals. Good sources for methodology are my thesis 
-http://arif.jinhabrothers.com/sites/arif.jinhabrothers.com/files/aj.pdf (defend
ed and submitted this fall)

- Article 50 million 
-http://www.mendeley.com/research/article-50-million-estimate-number-scholarly-a
rticles-existence-6/

Methods and data are based chiefly on:

Bjork et al's studies on OA share growth 2006 to current

Mabe and Amin, Tenopir and King - works 1990s to early 2000s

Derek De Sallo Price - 1960s - the 'father of scientometrics.

- you can get the number of article from Bjork's methods and data and
mine.

- you can get the number of researchers from UN data but there is ratio of
researchers to publishing researchers, and publishing researchers publish
an average of 1 article per year, so if you can determine good estimate
for that ratio you are on your way. You have good data on growth rates of
researchers, articles and journals, but growth rates have increased
dramatically since 2000 as demonstrated in my thesis.  It got a bit
complex and I tried to sort it best I could in my thesis.

 

all the best,

 

Arif

 

 

 

- Original Message -

  From: Arthur Sale

To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)'

Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:25 PM

Subject: [GOAL] How many researchers are there?

 

I am trying to get a rough estimate of the number of active
researchers in the world

[GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

2012-01-03 Thread Lee Giles
 dimensions of i
ntegrated understanding together with the need to raise children in a world that
 one must admit is schizoprhenic, bipolar and personality-disordered! It is chao
tic and it can only be tolerated by a student who becomes a Master, who grounds 
themselves in enlightenment - intellectual, spiritual, mystical and devotional. 
 My child's studies in Sufism will be as important as their studies in maths. Th
ere is no university today that understands any of this. 

Because the OA trend is irreversible and people do not require nor reasonably sh
ould place trust in peer-review anymore, all of the topics we are now interested
 in quickly fade, and we become interested in the action of sharing knowledge an
d being their own filter, doing it rather than letting institutions do it.  It w
ould be unwise for today's university teachers to place great emphasis on publis
hing in journals anyway, but it would be wise for them to teach their students h
ow to be leaders in contemporary thought, how to navigate truth and reality, and
 to be informationally wise, and to be fearless about the Openness paradigm - sh
are your work! For me it's like the Blues Brothers - 'I'm on a mission from God'
. lol. 

Now that I've finished my MA, I don't have to conform anymore and I can be mysel
f again - mystic-philosopher-entrepreneur-occupier.  There is a lot of bitternes
s I need to transform into beauty, which is why I Occupy myself with the Creativ
e Arts at the moment. Poetry, literature, music, visual art, photography, creati
ve capitalism and mutual aid.  This was dashed off quickly, and I really ought t
o be on my zafu doing anapasati (that's Buddhist for 'sitting around').  Do you 
think, though, that there will ever space in the future for the Bohemian at univ
ersity - the Alan Watts type? I hope so.  Otherwise, you'll just say to people '
I got this strange letter from this student who is probably mentally ill or on d
rugs'.  Ugggh. That is the Brave New World we are in.

If this stuff is less fun and interesting to read than my thesis, I've lost you!
 I wish you greatness in life, the depth of being human, and a good death.

'I believe that unconditional love and unarmed truth will have the final say in 
reality' - MLK.

all the best,

Arif

yo

  - Original Message - 
  From: Arthur Sale 
  To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)' 
  Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:43 PM
  Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?


  Thank you Arif.  I have read the article this afternoon (3 January) and will d
ownload and look through your thesis asap.

   

  However I feel compelled to re-emphasize to the list that I am not looking for
 an estimate of how many articles are published annually, or ever. The first of 
those pieces of data is useful for estimating what I really want to know: how ma
ny active researchers are employed in year y? Particularly 2011. Of course, it w
ill be useful to have article counts by discipline, however rough, because publi
cation practices differ widely between disciplines. A publication in some discip
lines is worth far less than in others, the number of authors/article differs wi
dely, and journal prestige varies at least as much.

   

  There are many other confusing factors in estimates based on article productio
n rates which I touched on in my reply to Stevan Harnad, not least of which is t
he frequency of publication of equally highly respected researchers. Some publis
h rarely (say once every three years), others produce multiple articles per year
. There are distributions in all these things which we should understand. If I m
ention just one, the huge disparity between articles/title in ISI and non-ISI jo
urnals listed in your article (111 vs 26, from Bjork et al) must give anyone cau
se to reflect! That's over 4:1, too big to gloss over.

   

  I know of course that I cannot determine exactly the number of researchers in 
the world, any more than anyone else can determine exactly how many articles wer
e written or published.  As an engineer in a previous career, absolute precision
 in these matters is not required, rather sufficient confidence that we are in t
he right ballpark. Anyway, thank you very much for your help and links, which I 
greatly appreciate.

   

  Arthur Sale

  University of Tasmania

   

   

  From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of 
Arif Jinha
  Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012 5:26 AM
  To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
  Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

   

  Arthur,

   

  You're not going to be able to determine the exact number of researchers in th
e world and you will have to make good estimates. But there are direct relations
hips between the number of researchers, the number of articles published annuall
y and the number of active peer-reviewed journals. Good sources for methodology 
are my thesis - http://arif.jinhabrothers.com/sites

[GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

2012-01-02 Thread Arthur Sale

Thanks Stevan. Unfortunately that does not answer the question I posed, but a
different question which is not relevant in the research being undertaken to see
the adoption of OA practices amongst researchers, as opposed to the application
of OA to articles which you have ably handled.

 

As you have recognized, it only needs one author of a multi-author article to
make the whole paper OA; however as we approach 100%, single-author articles
will require that sole author to make his or her paper OA. (The question is
irrelevant to Gold OA because all authors jointly agree to make the article OA,
once.) It would be an interesting study to see amongst Green OA, whether the
rate of making articles OA improves as the number of authors does. Hypothesis A:
it will, but not linearly. Secondly one could look at the number of times an
article is OA (ie the number of OA copies there are on the Internet). Hypothesis
B: this measure should increase with the number of authors, though probably not
linearly. Zipf’s law is more likely in these cases as earlier-listed authors 
are
probably the more likely to take OA action. Is your crawled data capable of
being re-interpreted this way?

 

I propose to do the following:

 

(1)   Estimate the total number of papers P published per year y, Py

(2)   Estimate the average number of authors per paper for this corpus, m.

(3)   Compute m x Py = N, an estimate of the number of active researchers.

 

The expected errors in N are:

·       The value of Py is not certain – neither ISI nor Scopus are 
complete.
This leads to an under-estimate.

·       Not all researchers publish every year. This means that the 
number of
researchers is again under-estimated.

·       Some researchers publish more than once per year. This is
double-counting and results in an over-estimate. ISI or Scopus may be able to
provide disambiguated estimates from their databases.

·       Unfortunately aggregating the number of years causes both the 
above
errors to change – the first reducing, the second increasing. I have seen
statements to the effect that an active researcher publishes at least once every
three years, so the effective limit is 3 successive years.

 

Still, the information will be interesting and perhaps useful.  It may be 
useful
to do a pilot study in a single institution. Australian universities have
complete citation databases of their publications, so it may be possible to
check this type of data for a single institution. If it is a big one, the data
may extrapolate.

 

Best wishes

 

Arthur

 

From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of
Stevan Harnad
Sent: Sunday, 1 January 2012 8:52 PM
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

 

Some suggestions:

 

(1) Estimate the total number of papers P published per year y, Py, rather than
the number of researchers.

 

(2) Start with the Thompson-Reuters-ISI-indexed (or SCOPUS-indexed) subset.

 

(3) For Py, sample the web (Google Scholar) to see what percentage of it is
freely available (OA).

 

Our latest rough estimate with this method, using a robot, is about 20%.

 

(Using estimates of the number of researchers, if the margin of error for the
total is 1M - 10M then the margin of error for the percentage OA would be 10% -
100%, which is too big. Using known, published papers as the estimator also
eliminates the multi-author problem.)

 

Cheers, Stevan

 

On 2011-12-31, at 6:25 PM, Arthur Sale wrote:



I am trying to get a rough estimate of the number of active researchers in the
world. Unfortunately all the estimates seem to be as rough as the famous Drake
equation for calculating the number of technological civilizations in the
universe: in other words all the factors are extremely fuzzy.  I seek your 
help.
My interest is that this is the number of people who need to adopt OA for us to
have 100% OA. (Actually, we will approach that sooner, as the average
publication has more than one author and we need only one to make it OA.

 

To share some thinking, let me take Australia. In 2011 it had 35 universities
and 29,226 academic staff with a PhD. Let me assume that this is the number of
research active staff. The average per institution is 835, and this spans big
universities down to small ones. Australia produces according to the OECD 2.5%
of the world’s research, so let’s estimate the number of active researchers 
in
the world (taking Australia as ‘typical’ of researchers) as 29226 / 0.025 =
1,169,040 researchers in universities. Note that I have not counted
non-university research organizations (they’ll make a small difference) nor 
PhD
students (there is usually a supervisor listed in the author list of any
publication they produce).

 

Let’s take another tack. I have read the number of 10,000 research 
universities
in the world bandied about. Let’s regard â

[GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

2012-01-02 Thread Arif Jinha
Arthur,
 
You're not going to be able to determine the exact number of researchers in the
world and you will have to make good estimates. But there are direct
relationships between the number of researchers, the number of articles
published annually and the number of active peer-reviewed journals. Good 
sources
for methodology are my thesis 
-http://arif.jinhabrothers.com/sites/arif.jinhabrothers.com/files/aj.pdf (defend
ed and submitted this fall)
- Article 50 million 
-http://www.mendeley.com/research/article-50-million-estimate-number-scholarly-a
rticles-existence-6/
Methods and data are based chiefly on:
Bjork et al's studies on OA share growth 2006 to current
Mabe and Amin, Tenopir and King - works 1990s to early 2000s
Derek De Sallo Price - 1960s - the 'father of scientometrics.
- you can get the number of article from Bjork's methods and data and mine.
- you can get the number of researchers from UN data but there is ratio of
researchers to publishing researchers, and publishing researchers publish an
average of 1 article per year, so if you can determine good estimate for that
ratio you are on your way. You have good data on growth rates of researchers,
articles and journals, but growth rates have increased dramatically since 2000
as demonstrated in my thesis.  It got a bit complex and I tried to sort it best
I could in my thesis.
 
all the best,
 
Arif
 
 
 
- Original Message -
  From: Arthur Sale
To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)'
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:25 PM
Subject: [GOAL] How many researchers are there?

I am trying to get a rough estimate of the number of active researchers in
the world. Unfortunately all the estimates seem to be as rough as the
famous Drake equation for calculating the number of technological
civilizations in the universe: in other words all the factors are
extremely fuzzy.  I seek your help. My interest is that this is the number
of people who need to adopt OA for us to have 100% OA. (Actually, we will
approach that sooner, as the average publication has more than one author
and we need only one to make it OA.

 

To share some thinking, let me take Australia. In 2011 it had 35
universities and 29,226 academic staff with a PhD. Let me assume that this
is the number of research active staff. The average per institution is
835, and this spans big universities down to small ones. Australia
produces according to the OECD 2.5% of the world?s research, so let?s estimate
the number of active researchers in the world (taking Australia as ?typical?
of researchers) as 29226 / 0.025 = 1,169,040 researchers in universities.
Note that I have not counted non-university research organizations (they?ll
make a small difference) nor PhD students (there is usually a supervisor
listed in the author list of any publication they produce).

 

Let?s take another tack. I have read the number of 10,000 research
universities in the world bandied about. Let?s regard ?research university? as
equal to ?PhD-granting university?. If each of them have 1,000 research active
staff on average, then that implies 1 x 1000 = 10,000,000 researchers.

 

That narrows the estimate, rough as it is, to

         1.1M   no of researchers  10M

I can live with this, as it is only one power of ten (order of magnitude)
between the two bounds. The upper limit is around 0.2% of the world?s
population.

 

Another tactic is to try to estimate the number of people whose name
appeared in an author list in the last decade. Disambiguation of names
rears its ugly head. This will also include many non-researchers in big
labs, some of them will be dead, and there will be new researchers who
have just not yet published, but I am looking for ball-park figures, not
pinpoint accuracy. I haven?t done this work yet.

 

Can we do better than these estimates, in the face of different national
styles?  It is even difficult to get one number for PhD granting
universities in the US, and as for India and China @$#!

 

Arthur Sale

University of Tasmania, Australia

 

 



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[GOAL] Re: How many researchers are there?

2012-01-01 Thread Stevan Harnad
Some suggestions:
(1) Estimate the total number of papers P published per year y, Py, rather than
the number of researchers.

(2) Start with the Thompson-Reuters-ISI-indexed (or SCOPUS-indexed) subset.

(3) For Py, sample the web (Google Scholar) to see what percentage of it is
freely available (OA).

Our latest rough estimate with this method, using a robot, is about 20%.

(Using estimates of the number of researchers, if the margin of error for the
total is 1M - 10M then the margin of error for the percentage OA would be 10% -
100%, which is too big. Using known, published papers as the estimator also
eliminates the multi-author problem.)

Cheers, Stevan

On 2011-12-31, at 6:25 PM, Arthur Sale wrote:

  I am trying to get a rough estimate of the number of active
  researchers in the world. Unfortunately all the estimates seem to be
  as rough as the famous Drake equation for calculating the number of
  technological civilizations in the universe: in other words all the
  factors are extremely fuzzy.  I seek your help. My interest is that
  this is the number of people who need to adopt OA for us to have
  100% OA. (Actually, we will approach that sooner, as the average
  publication has more than one author and we need only one to make it
  OA.
 
To share some thinking, let me take Australia. In 2011 it had 35
universities and 29,226 academic staff with a PhD. Let me assume that this
is the number of research active staff. The average per institution is
835, and this spans big universities down to small ones. Australia
produces according to the OECD 2.5% of the world’s research, so let’s
estimate the number of active researchers in the world (taking Australia
as ‘typical’ of researchers) as 29226 / 0.025 = 1,169,040 researchers in
universities. Note that I have not counted non-university research
organizations (they’ll make a small difference) nor PhD students (there is
usually a supervisor listed in the author list of any publication they
produce).
 
Let’s take another tack. I have read the number of 10,000 research
universities in the world bandied about. Let’s regard ‘research
university’ as equal to ‘PhD-granting university’. If each of them have
1,000 research active staff on average, then that implies 1 x 1000 =
10,000,000 researchers.
 
That narrows the estimate, rough as it is, to
         1.1M   no of researchers  10M
I can live with this, as it is only one power of ten (order of magnitude)
between the two bounds. The upper limit is around 0.2% of the world’s
population.
 
Another tactic is to try to estimate the number of people whose name
appeared in an author list in the last decade. Disambiguation of names
rears its ugly head. This will also include many non-researchers in big
labs, some of them will be dead, and there will be new researchers who
have just not yet published, but I am looking for ball-park figures, not
pinpoint accuracy. I haven’t done this work yet.
 
Can we do better than these estimates, in the face of different national
styles?  It is even difficult to get one number for PhD granting
universities in the US, and as for India and China @$#!
 
Arthur Sale
University of Tasmania, Australia
 
 
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