[Goanet] Peas of the same pod - BJP/Congress
Interestingly enough this news did not make it to the forum yet...so I am posting it. It just confirms my remarks a few days ago that although the BJP committed the violence in Gujarat (following the Congress led Godhra incident) it is the Congress that is continuing to perpetrate violence there since it is no longer in BJP's interest for the violence to continue (with the Central Govt. in gross trouble). This news also confirms my contention that all political parties are communal and unsecular. Cheers, Sunila www.thenewspapertoday.com BJP alleges Congress hand behind renewed violence UDAI MAHURKAR Ahmedabad, April 28, 21:38 Violence erupted again in Ahmedabad on Sunday barely a few hours after Union Ministers George Fernandes, Arun Jetley and Chief Minister Narendra Modi led a peace march this morning through Kalupur - a Muslim-dominated area, which remained relatively peaceful for quite some time. Plus, in the Gomatipur area, one person was killed and another knifed. It triggered massive group clashes all over the area, forcing the administration to impose an indefinite curfew. An indefinite curfew was imposed at Kalupur this evening after several group clashes broke out in the area, forcing the police to open fire. Private firearms were used in the clashes in which mobs from rival communities indulged in heavy stone pelting. What apparently lends credence to the charge being levelled by the ruling BJP government that there is a political hand behind the current round of violence is that violence engulfed the very route through which the peace marchers passed today. The BJP allegation followed the sudden breakout of violence with the killing of a police constable a week ago when there were indications that peace was returning to the city. The killing took place soon after a Muslim group - led allegedly by some Congress leaders and dominated by the radical Islamic Tableeghi Jamaat - had urged Muslim students to boycott the rescheduled secondary and higher secondary examinations. Minister of State for Home Gordhan Jhadaphiya said: The sudden eruption of violence after the excitement over the exam boycott call petered out and the pattern of violence make it clear that the Congress is behind it. The Congress wants Narendra Modis exit by hook or by crook. But Gujarat Congress chief Amarsinh Chaudhary said: It is ridiculous that the BJP should blame the Congress for its failure to contain violence. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] Mental health -- a Goan myth
Margaret Mascarenhas Mental health-a Goan myth As I write, a Voyager van has pulled up in front of the outdoor coffee shop where I'm seated. On the side, it says, Coconut Creek, Goa's best kept secret. The advertisers have got it all wrong. Coconut Creek isn't Goa's best kept secret. I'll tell you what Goa's best kept secret is: how to obtain a copy of a birth certificate in Goa without committing yourself and some other people to the Mental Hospital in the process. My dad called a couple of weeks ago from America. Listen, sweetie, he said, the paper of my birth certificate is disintegrating. Get me another one. Sure, Dad, I said, no problem. I retrospect, I laugh sardonically at my incredible naivete. Someone pointed me towards the Municipality. But no, that's only for those born after 1970. Try the Archives, said one of the municipality guys. So then I went to the Archives. No, they said, we only have those born prior to 1921, try the Sub-registrar. By then I needed some tea. I went over to my aunt's house, where my cousin told me that once he'd applied for a birth certificate at the sub-registrar and no one could find the requisite registry. This turned out to be because some of the registry books were being utilized as bricks to make one of the staff tables higher. So, I was not especially looking forward to the next stop in my journey towards Birth Certificate Acquisition. When I arrived at the Civil Registrar, a man told me I should return the following morning, because they only accept birth certificate applications between 9 am and 1 pm. He was very pleasant about it, though, and my spirits were lifted. By the way, I said, chattily, as I was leaving, Do you have any idea how long it will take to obtain the birth certificate? The pleasant man sighed, If you don't have the registration number, it could take up to one month. We sometimes can't find the books. And, looking around, I could see why. The CM came here and said we should be computerized, but. his voice faded off and he shrugged his shoulders to indicate his helplessness (or was it hopelessness?) in the matter. What do you mean by Registration number? my father, who has been living in the Land of Convenience and Instant Gratification for many years, asked. I explained it was a number that would be somewhere on the birth certificate in his possession. I was clued in by then. Then he explained. He said maybe he'd have been able to accommodate my request, had it not been for the incontrovertible fact that the document in his possession was in bits and pieces. That's why I want another one, he said. His tone was that of a benevolent and tolerant adult speaking to a beloved, but retarded, child. A few days later, while I was fighting off all the line cutters at the Civil Registrar in the queue for applying for birth certificates (which is, thankfully, shorter than the queue for reconnecting your telephone), I met a mechanic friend of mine who told me he was migrating to Portugal. He was very excited about his plans. I asked him how long it had taken for him to process his papers for a Portuguese passport. A few months, he said, and I was so distracted by his reply, that one of the cutters managed to slip in ahead of me. The mechanic confided that the entire process had been expedited because he paid an agent in Lisbon 500 USD to follow up on that end. That's interesting, I thought, because one of my friends paid a lawyer around that amount almost four years ago to do the same thing, and she still hasn't managed to get her documentation in order. She told me her lawyer is a former High Court judge from Margao, now residing in Lisbon. Now, why a High Court judge would leave his job in Goa to fiddle around with passport papers in Portugal (especially when he clearly isn't very good at it), is beyond me. If you ask me, that surely qualifies for contempt more than Arundhatti Roy's dabblings in polemics. Personally, I wish Roy would give up this Noam Chomsky impersonation and stick to fiction which is her forte, but that's another story. Meanwhile, I have another date with the Civil Registrar in two weeks. If you don't hear from me before then, look me up at the Mental Hospital. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
goanet-digest V1 #3897
goanet-digest Monday, April 29 2002 Volume 01 : Number 3897 - In this issue: [Goanet] 28 Apr: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS Re: [Goanet] Money Talks ! - a response to Sunila Muzawar [Goanet] Peas of the same pod - BJP/Congress [Goanet] Mental health -- a Goan myth See end of digest for information on subscribing/unsusbcribing. -- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:10:10 +0530 From: Joel D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] 28 Apr: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS 28 APRIL 2002 CONGRESS TO MOVE EC: Former leader of Opposition, Luizinho Faleiro, said the Congress Party would complain to the Election Commission about the flagrant violation of the model code of conduct by the Parrikar government through mass appointments and misuse of machinery. (WE-GT) FALEIRO SEES ULTERIOR MOTIVE: Addressing a press conference in Panjim yesterday, Congress Leader Luizinho Faleiro claimed that a recent circular issued by the State's Education Department, fixing a ceiling of 40 students per class, had put several reputed institutions, mostly minority run, in deep trouble, as also parents. This, he said, is obviously aimed at diverting students from the better run schools to those privatised government schools, which had failed to cut any ice with the Goan students. (H) CONGRESS SEEKS REMOVAL OF POLICE OFFICERS: The Congress will write to the Election Commission seeking removal of some police officials, who are allegedly conspiring with the BJP government to manipulate the outcome of the elections to the State assembly. (NT) TALKS FOR THIRD FRONT CONTINUE: The discussions of seat sharing amongst the UGDP, CPI, CPI(M) and the MGP are still in progress and the chances of formation of the third front to challenge both the Congress and the BJP are bright, remarked GPI generally secretary, Mr Christopher Fonseca. (NT) UGDP REJECTS CONGRESS OFFER: The United Goans Democratic Party on Saturday rejected the offer made by the Congress Party for seat sharing and reiterated that the party would go ahead on its own in the ensuing polls. He said, The people of Goa are disgusted with 17 years of Congress rule and 17 months of BJP rule. (H) KONKANI MUST BE 'UNAVOIDABLE' SUBJECT: We cannot stop anyone from taking Marathi or any other language but we want Konkani to be an 'unavoidable' subject up to std tenth. It will be profitable to Goa, to the people and even to the government. Let there be an open debate on this, said Dr Tanaji Halarnakar, the president of the All India Konkani Parishad, in an interview with Damodar Ghanekar of NT. FREEDOM FIGHTERS TO EDUCATE ELECTORATE: Chandrakant Keni, while delivering a talk on Expectation from the Freedom Fighters, said that they can make themselves heard and influence happenings on the socio-political field in Goa. He lamented that politicians had been using religion and caste for selfish interests and seemingly want to turn Goa into another Gujarat. (WE-GT) BUS SHED SET ABLAZE: The bus shed at Dhavkhond-Dharbandora near Codli Tisk, which was gutted in a recent fire, has caused hardship to the passengers. Village sources informed Herald that some miscreants set fire to the bus shed, which was covered with coconut leaves (thatched) by the villagers. (H) NEW LOOK FOR COMUNIDADE BLDG: The Administrator of South Goa Comunidades, Shefali M Majrekar, who took over just a month back, has not only taken steps to streamline the working in the office but also is working to improve the maintenance of the building which houses the office of the Administrator of Comunidades (in Margao). (WE-GT) SHIVDAS PLANS TO CONTEST: Well-known writer and social activist N Shivdas, has planned to contest the forthcoming assembly polls to take the temple issue as an election issue. He alleged that the Hindu Bahujan Samaj has been socially discriminated, kept outside the 'garbhakud' and not allowed to perform religious rites such 'abhixeka' on caste line in the temples. He has been agitating over the issue for the last 22 years. (H) MARTYR'S BODY ARRIVES: The body of Mahesh Binnar, an army jawan from New Vaddem-Vasco, who became a martyr while fighting against terrorists at Jammu and Kashmir, was brought to Goa yesterday. Binnar (23), succumbed to gun shot wounds after he and other army men were attacked by militants at Jammu on 25 April. (WE-GT) SEMINAR ON GOA IN NEW DELHI: Delhi-based Goenkarancho Ekvott is organising a seminar on Goa Today-Tomorrow on 4 May at the Institute of Town Planners, India, New Delhi. (WE-GT) NIGHT VIGIL AT MANDUR: The parishioners of Our Lady of Amparo Church, Mandur, will organise and All Goa Nigh Vigil at the Mandur Church ground on 30 April at 8 pm. (WE-GT) BAIL PLEA REJECTED: South Goa Session and District Court yesterday rejected the bail
[Goanet] Brief History of Mothers' Day
In the U.S. Mothers' Day is a holiday celebrated on second Sunday in May. It is a day when children honor their mothers with cards, gifts, and flowers. First observance in Philadelphia, Pa. in 1907, it is based on suggestions by Julia Ward Howe in 1872 and Anna Jarvis in 1907. Although it wasn't celebrated in the U.S. until 1907, there were days honoring mothers even in the days of ancient Greece. In those days, however, it was Rhea, the Mother of the gods that was given honor. Later, in the 1600's, in England there was an annual observance called Mothering Sunday. It was celebrated during Lent, on the fourth Sunday. On Mothering Sunday, the servants, who generally lived with their employers, were encouraged to return home and honor their mothers. It was traditional for them to bring a special cake along to celebrate the occasion. In the U.S., in 1907 Ana Jarvis, from Philadelphia, began a campaign to establish a national Mother's Day. Jarvis persuaded her mother's church in Grafton, West Virginia to celebrate Mother's Day on the second anniversary of her mother's death, the 2nd Sunday of May. The next year Mother's Day was also celebrated in Philadelphia. Jarvis and others began a letter-writing campaign to ministers, businessmen, and politicians in their quest to establish a national Mother's Day. They were successful. President Woodrow Wilson, in 1914, made the official announcement proclaiming Mother's Day a national observance that was to be held each year on the 2nd Sunday of May. Many other countries of the world celebrate their own Mother's Day at different times throughout the year. Denmark, Finland, Italy, Turkey, Australia, and Belgium celebrate Mother's Day on the second Sunday in May, as in the U.S. This year Mothers Day is on the 12th of May. Greet your loved ones in Goa with flowers! http://www.goa-world.net/expressions/ Check out the Mothers' Day offer for 12th May http://www.goa-world.net/expressions/mothersday/ EXPRESSIONS - The Flower Shop World famous all over Goa! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] Todays headline
People who are shouting the loudest against the BJP over the Gujarat incidents are the ones who are responsible for communal violence that the country has suffered since Independence, the Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar said. He was speaking as chief guest at the inaugural Kannada Samaj Sammelan in Panaji on April 28. Strongly countering the hate campaign that the opponents of the BJP had launched against the party and its leaders on the Gujarat issue, Mr Parrikar said the Congress, which was making the most noise, was responsible for large scale communal backlash in Punjab in the eighties when the Sikhs and later Hindus became targets of fundamentalists propped up by the party. Taking a swipe at the Congress party in the state, the Chief Minister said that in the eighties, a campaign had been launched against sections of people in the port town of Vasco da Gama wherein they were terrorized and virtually forced to abandon their homes. This was done at the behest of those who were now in the forefront criticizing the BJP government for allegedly spreading communal hatred. Referring to the unrest in J K, he commented that the minorities there were facing virtual ethnic cleansing and the responsibility for the situation there lies with the Congress. Mr Parrikar also made a mention of the situation in the North-East and said that large sections of people there were feeling insecure. The BJP was surely not responsible for the communal discord that had been created decades ago in these regions, he pointed out. Strongly condemning the violence in Gujarat, Mr Parrikar stated that unfortunately Indian society has had to pass through troubled times over the decades as a result of faulty Congress policies. While there could be a number of reasons for communal flare-ups, the root cause of social unrest often could be traced to frustration among people due to rising unemployment etc. He said that only good governance could effectively tackle such unrest. Mr Parrikar said the BJP government in the state had in the last 18 months provided good governance and that it was sure of gaining the confidence of and mandate of the people to continue with the effort to make Goa into a model state. PLEASE VISIT US a href = 'http://www.goabjp.com' www.goabjp.com/a FOR MORE ARTICLES COLUMNS. THANK YOU. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] NEWS: Hindu leaders silently supporting rightwing British party
Hindu leaders silently supporting rightwing British party By Sanjay Suri, Indo-Asian News Service London, Apr 28 (IANS) Several Hindu leaders have begun silently supporting the far-right British National Party in local elections in towns hit by race riots last year. Rioting in Bradford, Oldham and Burnley towns, the worst that Britain has seen in 20 years, had led to continuing clashes between white youths and Pakistanis and Bangladeshis on the other, but did not involve any youths of Indian origin. The BNP has since then made a policy shift from opposing all immigrants to opposing Muslim immigrants. The BNP has set up an Ethnic Liaison Committee to launch a joint effort with Sikhs and Hindus. Sikh and Hindu leaders in the area are believed to have given their support to a Campaign Against Islam launched by the BNP. The BNP has been distributing CDs and audio tapes of its policies which include a warning to the British people by someone who describes himself as Sikh and who talks of his father hacked to death by mobs during the partition of the Indian subcontinent in 1947. Several leaders have warned that the BNP is using Hindu and Sikh leaders for tactical purposes and has not given up its anti-immigrant policies. Continuing talks between BNP leader Nick Griffin and Hindu and Sikh leaders since then is now finding expression in the local elections due May 2, according to both BNP leaders and Hindu leaders. We have had the support of Hindus and Sikhs before and now we have that support again, a leader at the BNP campaign office told IANS. The support earlier came in a by-election in Burnley in November 2001 when the BNP took 19 percent of the vote in Trinity Ward and 23 percent of the vote in Lower House ward. Hindu leaders have stopped short of boasting of the alliance with the BNP publicly. But Hasmukh Shah, one of the most influential Hindu leaders in north England, was reported to have met Griffin about that time. Several other leaders within the Indian community warned against any deal with rightwing racists. The BNP's Burnley organiser, local accountant Steve Smith, said after the by-election results: Our rapidly rising vote shows that it's only a matter of time before we win in Burnley. Just over a couple of years ago we only had two members in the town; now we're getting more than one in five votes. --Indo-Asian News Service =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] Re: Mangoes
Dear Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha, You wrote: 1. Coloration and colouration are both found in an English dictionary, so they are both acceptable 2. ...mankurad ... has entered the current Konkani (and, by way of it, also the current English) vocabulary Thank you! Eddie =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Fwd: Re: [Goanet] Re: Mangoes
Dear cybergoans, I apologise(profusely) for starting this long, argumentative, endless, and ridiculous discussion about mangoes, a week ago, with a seemingly innocent post about malcurada mangoes, which are going at Rs. 200 a doz. in the margao market today, a price which I can ill afford, because I like to go through 3 at 1 sitting. Hope the season is better next year. regards--Gilbert. ... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Eddie, OK, agreed that recent literature refers to malcorada as mankurad; but this doesn't mean that mankurad is correct, does it? *Yes, it does, particularly as there was incorrect description in the first =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
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Re: [Goanet] Jose being fair
Dotor, let me first thank you for your balanced reaction to my last message to you. You have proved that we can all have civilized discussions on this forum without things deteriorating to blows and I truly appreciate your attitude. From: The Goan Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Sunila on fairness in reporting Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:09:19 -0700 (PDT) It is impossible for me to support extremists from any religion, country, whatever, especially the ones who see NO wrong that their OWN do but Holler at the top of their voices when a mouse from their political or emotional rival/competitor crosses their path. I agree with you completely BTW: those who made noise about the Staines' burning need to be commended for their noise. Sure. But don't forget Godhra again. While those who blamed the Church bombings on the Sangh Parivar, need to apologize for being distinctly prejudicial - automatically thinking that IF any group bombs Christian Churches...it MUST be HINDU. If they haven't apologized yet.there is still time! Well let us not wait for an apology. After all, the Pope refused to apologise for the Inquisition crimes when he last came to India. With the Pope being the representative of Christ and all that I would have thought the ego factor would have been non-existant in this person at least. But was unfortunately proved wrong. Christ to me is the embodiment of love and more love and more love. He is completely and truly beautiful. Unfortunately, with organised religion most of what is practised today is a travesty of his teachings. Otherwise the Pope would have turned the other cheek..and succeeded in taking the wind out of the VHP sails. Talking of apologies, do you think the VHP and Co. will ever apologise for the breakdown of the Babri Masjid ? I am certainly not waiting with bated breath. After all, this is the group that is trying to group the Hindus into following an organised religion which Hinduism fortunately is not. And while on the apology do you think we will ever get one out of Pakistan for killing 60,000 plus people in Kashmir in order to keep their own nation together with the promotion of collective hatred. And what about all the caste killings. Do you think any apologies will flow on those ? As I said I will not wait for the apology. And.ALL of us need to condemn the ethnic cleansing going on in Kashmir...where both Hindus Muslims are losing lives. Lives which could have been used productively. I hopeone day...this hate will end, and we will resume our lives with our resolve to do(legally ethically) the best we can for ourselves and our family. It will end Dotor when you and me and all others like you and me stand up and voice our concern loud and clear just like what we did with the Gujarat riots. Being an optimist, I have hope. After all what is living in this world without love and hope ? Cheers, Sunila _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] More on women in Gujarat
Reuters report... BC-INDIA-WOMEN Muslim women brutalized in India's Gujarat - report By Sugita Katyal NEW DELHI (Reuters) - The day after 59 people were burnt alive in a train in India's western state of Gujarat last month, a screaming mob chased Sultani Sheikh and her family with sticks, swords and cans of kerosene in their hands. My clothes were stripped and I was left stark naked. One by one the men raped me, Sultani, a Muslim woman from Delol village told a panel examining the impact on Muslim women of the country's worst religious bloodshed in a decade. I lost count after three, a report by the panel quotes her as saying. All the while I could hear my son crying. According to the report by a coalition of women's groups, many Muslim females suffered the most bestial forms of sexual violence including rape, insertion of objects into their bodies and burning in the violence. More than 750 people, most of them belonging to India's minority Muslim population, have died in a wave of reprisal killings and communal clashes in Gujarat since a Muslim mob torched the train carrying Hindu activists in Godhra. The six-member team of women's activists spoke to hundreds of witnesses and survivors of the religious mayhem to prepare the report, entitled How has the Gujarat Massacre Affected Minority Women: The Survivors Speak. Many of the women who were raped were then burnt to death, Malini Ghose, a member of the team, told Reuters on Thursday. But survivors and witnesses had horrific tales to tell the panel. FETUS THROWN ONTO BONFIRE Saira Banu, living in a refugee camp in Ahmedabad, Gujarat's main city which bore the brunt of the violence, says a group of men cut open her nine-month pregnant relative's stomach, took out her fetus with a sword and threw it into a blazing fire. Medina Mustafa Sheikh, another refugee in an Ahmedabad camp, says she heard her young daughter screaming for help as a group of men raped her in a maize field where her family had hidden to escape a bloodthirsty mob of 500 people. My daughter was screaming in pain asking the men to leave her alone. My mind was seething with fear and fury. I could do nothing to help my daughter from being assaulted sexually and tortured to death, Medina told the women's panel. My daughter was like a flower, still to see life...the monsters tore my beloved daughter to pieces, she said. Activists working at a relief camp in Ahmedabad said many women arrived naked at the camp. One woman was brought to the camp unconscious, bleeding profusely, her body covered with bites and marks and relief workers dressing her wounds said they had to removed pieces of wood that had been pushed up her vagina. Police say survivors of the religious violence have been filing more than 100 complaints a day, but activists say the issue of sexual violence has been grossly under-reported. This time round in Gujarat, far more than in previous episodes of communal violence, women have been fair game, the report said. Forced out of burning homes, running for their lives on violent streets, they have been targeted not only by rampaging mobs hellbent on hurting every Muslim woman, man and child in sight but far worse, by police whose job it was to protect them. Many Muslims, opposition parties and civil rights groups have accused the Hindu nationalist state government of failing to help Muslim survivors of the riots. They even allege the Bharatiya Janata Party state government turned a blind eye to the violence, allowing Hindu mobs free rein to kill, burn and loot -- accusations it has denied. Ashok Narayan, a senior official with the government, said the state had asked police to investigate the complaints made in the report. We have taken note of the report and have instructed the police to investigate all the complaints about sexual abuse, he said. If anything that has been mentioned in the report has taken place, we will take strict action. Nobody will be allowed to go scot free, Narayan said. REUTERS Reut09:29 04-18-02 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
goanet-digest V1 #3903
goanet-digest Monday, April 29 2002 Volume 01 : Number 3903 - In this issue: [none] [Goanet] Rules and Regulations Re: [Goanet] Jose being fair [Goanet] Report of the GOA CAN Earth Day meeting. See end of digest for information on subscribing/unsusbcribing. -- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:23:15 -0600 (MDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [none] The Dar es Salaam Institute presents THE MAY BALL 2002 on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 at 8:00pm Features: # THE SELECTION OF THE MAY QUEEN # KITI MOTO (Roast Pork) ** FREE AS LNG AS KITI IKO MTO ** # MBUZI CHOMA (Roast Goat/Mutton) ** FREE AS LNG MBUZI IK ** # 2000 WATT (BMbA !!) SUND SYSTEM # and LADZ OF FUN What else could you ask for?? Why would you wanna be anywhere else??? DRESS: SMART CASUAL ENTRANCE: Members TSH 1000/= Guests TSH 1500/= If you ARE in Dar es Salaam, this is one pArTy you don't wanna miss!! If you are NOT IN Dar ... You had better FLY (hahahahaha) to the HAVEN OF PEACE!! I know I'll see you all there!! SPREAD THE WORD 2, BE ALL THE HELP THAT U KNOW U CAN BE!! Thank you -- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:42:30 +0200 From: Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Rules and Regulations Netters - I've been remiss in reminding you all of GoaNet's Rules and Regulations. Please read them and follow them - they are few and reasonable. Thanks - Viviana * No posting allowed above 15K - this is to avoid repeating a post ad nauseum. Keep in mind that some GoaNetters pay by the minute or byte to access GoaNet. * All posts must be signed in the header and body. * No swearing or camouflaged swearing whatsoever. * Discussions originating on other lists should not be cross-posted to GoaNet - most members subscribe only to GoaNet so a response to something from another D-List is not only confusing but could be considered a waste of time and money. * No personal attacks... debate ideas, not persons. * Pseudonyms and concealed identities are strictly disallowed. * Commercial ads are disallowed - this means signature files as well as For Sale posts. People pay for advertising in the GoaNet footer. If you have something for sale, send a message to any one of the Admin Team and we'll decide if it should be posted. TIPS - You can post to GoaNet in PLAIN TEXT ONLY, or the post will bounce. If you don't know how to turn off your HTML editor, write to me and I'll let you know. It's a different procedure for different browsers. If you use the Reply function to respond to a post, you MUST MUST MUST remove the GoaNet footer from the quoted post, or the post will bounce. Please also remove any part of the quoted post which is not relevant to your response. Please keep in mind that some GoaNetters pay dearly to download GoaNet and it's unfair to make them pay to download the same post over and over again. If you're subscribed to the Digest version of GoaNet AND you want to use the Reply function, you must change the Subject line to something relevant to your response AND you must edit off ALL of the Digest which is not relevant to your response, or the post will bounce. These filters may seem punitive but they're in place to ensure that the same post is not repeated over and over again AND to ensure that any subscriber will be able to decide if he/she wants to read the post before opening it. -- Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:54:13 +0400 From: Sunila Muzawar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Jose being fair Dotor, let me first thank you for your balanced reaction to my last message to you. You have proved that we can all have civilized discussions on this forum without things deteriorating to blows and I truly appreciate your attitude. From: The Goan Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Sunila on fairness in reporting Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:09:19 -0700 (PDT) It is impossible for me to support extremists from any religion, country, whatever, especially the ones who see NO wrong that their OWN do but Holler at the top of their voices when a mouse from their political or emotional rival/competitor crosses their path. I agree with you completely BTW: those who made noise about the Staines' burning need to be commended for their noise. Sure. But don't forget Godhra again. While those who blamed the Church bombings on the Sangh Parivar, need to apologize for being distinctly prejudicial - automatically thinking that IF any group bombs Christian Churches...it MUST be HINDU. If they haven't apologized yet.there is still time! Well let us not wait for an apology. After all, the Pope refused to apologise for the Inquisition crimes when he last came to India. With the Pope being the representative of Christ and all that I would have
Re: [Goanet] FW: Untold story of Godra, India
I have received this message several times now and if I recall right, it has already made it to goanet before. This message has obviously been circulated by the political parties who pretend to support Muslims e.g. Samajwadi Party, Congress Party, NCP, etc. I have also received another message a couple of times which tells the story from the other side. It focusses on the innocence of the Godhra victims and the harshness of the persons who set the train on fire. This message has obviously been circulated by the Sangh Parivar, BJP, etc. who pretend to support Hindus. Who should we believe? I guess it is upto you. Just remember some facts like the train stopped at Godhra for all of five minutes; fifty nine people were burnt alive, the majority of whom were women and childres (17 women and 25 children if I recall right); the fire stations were forcibly prevented from putting out the fire; Godhra is notorious in the past also for communal violence; the incident resulted in mass killings in the revenge vendetta that followed; hundreds of Muslims have had their homes burnt down, their relatives killed, raped, assaulted; etc. I would rather not take sides. After all whether a person is Hindu or Muslim he is first human. And a child is a child no matter who his/her parents are. And nothing and nobody can justify violence leading to deaths of men, women and children.at Godhra or the rest of Gujarat. Do you agree ? Also you guys must have heard that tale about the conspiracy behind the Sep 11 bombings wherein 4000-5000 Jews are supposed to have not reported to work at the WTC on that day. Well, 90% of one billion Muslims in the world believed this story the first time they heard it. 99% of the rest of the world did not believe it when they heard it. Some Muslims got convinced otherwise when it was pointed out that there was no way that the alleged Jewish absenteism could have been proven. What did you think ? I suppose many of us like to believe things according to our own fixed perceptions of people and events. Cheers, Sunila From: Francisco Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] FW: Untold story of Godra, India Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 18:52:37 -0700 (PDT) I received this from a friend. If it is true, it is very shocking indeed. Forwarded: From: Hari Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Godhra train incident Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:18:36 -0800 Dear friends: Conflicting news have been coming from various sources as to what actually happened at the Godhra station on Feb. 27, where a couple of train coaches were burnt, killing many Hindu Ram Sewaks and others, including women and children. Knowing India as I think I do, I found it extremely unlikely that an organized crowd of Muslims would undertake such a ghastly act in a pre-planned way, as has been widely asserted in the media. I wrote to some journalist friends of mine in India. And here is a version I have received from a highly reputed journalist and Human Rights activist, Mukundan Menon, based in Kerala. And I am pleased to share it with you. This story has already been published in some Kerala papers. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
