Re: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

2003-01-31 Thread Damian Lobo
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To all Bike Riders

I thought I should contribute to this issue as a Bikie myself.  Safety is
utmost when riding a motorbike.  Wear your helmet and if its law - it is
good - just do it.  Stop complaining for f.sake.  If you want to
live you have to wear a helmet.  This goes for the pilion passenger too not
just the rider.

Regards

Damian Lobo
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From: Luiza de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:35 PM
Subject: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...



 Here we go again with the helmet issue... It was all of a sudden
 implemented last year. Then after the helmet manufacturers, dealers  the
 politicians made their money, the rule was scrapped as suddenly as it was
 imposed. Definitely looks like they didn't make enough, so here they go
 once again this year.

 Everyone knows that it is safe to wear a helmet while riding because you
 never know when it's going to be your bad day. You could be riding
 carefully, but someone else could knock you down, or you could skid due to
 a puncture or oil on the road there could be a lot of silly excuses
for
 an accident. So it would definitely be safe to wear a helmet.

 But then besides accidents caused by carelessness, there are those which
 are caused due to pure negligence of the government.

 Before enforcing the helmet rule, there are a whole lot of other hazardous
 excuses for accidents which the government should give priority to first.
 To mention just a few: stray cattle, stray dogs, improper road lighting,
 proper levelling of roads dug up for laying of pipelines / cables / water
 connections, full headlights blinding other drivers on the road, ban on
 using blaring air horns which startle other drivers, proper traffic sign
 boards, direction boards,  there are still some more to add, but
 let the government work on these for starters.

 Once all the above have been looked into  then the helmet rule is
imposed,
 then only riders will be convinced that the government is really concerned
 about our safety. Right now everyone knows the obvious reasons for the
 sudden enforcing of the rule.

 And to all other riders  drivers, each one knows that it is a privilege
 for us drive  each of us has a right on the road, and just as our lives
 are precious of us, think of the rest on the road too. Drive carefully,
 don't over-take without horning, don't over-take from the left side, use
 indicators when turning I'm not teaching you. You know how to drive.
 You simply didn't get a license without knowing how to. or did you pay
 a bribe to get one?








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Re: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

2003-01-31 Thread Luiza de Mello
I myself am a bike rider  always use a helmet, but that doesn't mean that 
I'm safe on the road  that it will stop me from having an accident. Let me 
tell you of one of my bad experiences on the road (that too while riding  
wearing a helmet). It happened to me a second time just a few months back 
during the rainy season. First of all, the roads are wet  then there's 
traffic coming in the opposite direction, some of them with their lights 
full beam which reflects on the wet road, as well as on the visor of the 
helmet, making it very difficult to see anything ahead in the night. And to 
add to it, there were no street lights on at that particular sharp turn in 
Sangolda  there was a big black bull sitting right in the middle of the 
road which if I wasn't riding very slow, would have missed seeing it  rode 
straight into it.

I do agree with you that it is safe to wear a helmet while riding, but like 
Mr. Antonia D'Silva said in an earlier posting  I repeat it again, the 
government has to first provide us with a safe environment.

Luiza


To all Bike Riders

I thought I should contribute to this issue as a Bikie myself.  Safety is
utmost when riding a motorbike.  Wear your helmet and if its law - it is
good - just do it.  Stop complaining for f.sake.  If you want to
live you have to wear a helmet.  This goes for the pilion passenger too not
just the rider.

Regards

Damian Lobo




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RE: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

2003-01-29 Thread D'Silva, Antonio
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I don't understand what the whole issue is about.

Lets face it - Goans are the government of Goa - simple definition of
democracy Government of the people, by the people and for the people -
did I get that right?

We have rights and all these rights have equal amount of duties i.e. If
I drive, then I am duty bound to ensure my safety and safety of others.

If the traffic police wants me to be safe then he enforces safety
measures on me but not before providing me with an equal amount of safe
environment. 

You see everything is linked or at least to some extent and this is true
in all developed places except in our case, although we are the
government.

I have analyzed prior situations, (this is nothing new), Someone makes
an issue of a dried leaf falling on the road and convinces all to jump
onto his bandwagon to the secretariat where only he and he alone is
offered the seat of Minister of Leaf Works.  Comes the rain, someone
slips on the leaf, falls and dies and we all bury him and leave happily
after.  The leaf is still there on the road - no wind to blow it away
and than the guy who stirred the entire ruckus still drives day after
day over the dried leaf. Only thing is we cannot pray (or is it do)
enough for his government gifted four wheeler to slip over the dried
leaf and turn turtle

And yet the absolute truth is : we are the government.

Like imagine, we pay 100 bucks to jump a queue to save 15 minutes and
then spend 30 minutes waiting at the gas station or standing in a
crowded bus (sardine can)at the Prasar (hope I got that right) to get
home.

Our mentality both MINE  yours.
 

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From: noel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

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I dont believe the other issues you mention should take priority over
the
compulsory use of helmets.  Our civic sense and road protocol, menace of
dogs and pigs etc cannot entirely be blamed on the government. We have
an
obligation and duty of care to ourselves and to others to ensure that we
have a safe sense.
- Original Message -
From: Luiza de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:35 PM
Subject: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...



 Here we go again with the helmet issue... It was all of a sudden
 implemented last year. Then after the helmet manufacturers, dealers 
the
 politicians made their money, the rule was scrapped as suddenly as it
was
 imposed. Definitely looks like they didn't make enough, so here they
go
 once again this year.

 Everyone knows that it is safe to wear a helmet while riding because
you
 never know when it's going to be your bad day. You could be riding
 carefully, but someone else could knock you down, or you could skid
due to
 a puncture or oil on the road there could be a lot of silly
excuses
for
 an accident. So it would definitely be safe to wear a helmet.

 But then besides accidents caused by carelessness, there are those
which
 are caused due to pure negligence of the government.

 Before enforcing the helmet rule, there are a whole lot of other
hazardous
 excuses for accidents which the government should give priority to
first.
 To mention just a few: stray cattle, stray dogs, improper road
lighting,
 proper levelling of roads dug up for laying of pipelines / cables /
water
 connections, full headlights blinding other drivers on the road, ban
on
 using blaring air horns which startle other drivers, proper traffic
sign
 boards, direction boards,  there are still some more to add,
but
 let the government work on these for starters.

 Once all the above have been looked into  then the helmet rule is
imposed,
 then only riders will be convinced that the government is really
concerned
 about our safety. Right now everyone knows the obvious reasons for the
 sudden enforcing of the rule.

 And to all other riders  drivers, each one knows that it is a
privilege
 for us drive  each of us has a right on the road, and just as our
lives
 are precious of us, think of the rest on the road too. Drive
carefully,
 don't over-take without horning, don't over-take from the left side,
use
 indicators when turning I'm not teaching you. You know how to
drive.
 You simply didn't get a license without knowing how to. or did you
pay
 a bribe to get one?









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Re: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

2003-01-29 Thread noel
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I could be wrong Mr D'Silva, but I do get the impression that you agree with
me.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...


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 I don't understand what the whole issue is about.

 Lets face it - Goans are the government of Goa - simple definition of
 democracy Government of the people, by the people and for the people -
 did I get that right?

 We have rights and all these rights have equal amount of duties i.e. If
 I drive, then I am duty bound to ensure my safety and safety of others.

 If the traffic police wants me to be safe then he enforces safety
 measures on me but not before providing me with an equal amount of safe
 environment.

 You see everything is linked or at least to some extent and this is true
 in all developed places except in our case, although we are the
 government.

 I have analyzed prior situations, (this is nothing new), Someone makes
 an issue of a dried leaf falling on the road and convinces all to jump
 onto his bandwagon to the secretariat where only he and he alone is
 offered the seat of Minister of Leaf Works.  Comes the rain, someone
 slips on the leaf, falls and dies and we all bury him and leave happily
 after.  The leaf is still there on the road - no wind to blow it away
 and than the guy who stirred the entire ruckus still drives day after
 day over the dried leaf. Only thing is we cannot pray (or is it do)
 enough for his government gifted four wheeler to slip over the dried
 leaf and turn turtle

 And yet the absolute truth is : we are the government.

 Like imagine, we pay 100 bucks to jump a queue to save 15 minutes and
 then spend 30 minutes waiting at the gas station or standing in a
 crowded bus (sardine can)at the Prasar (hope I got that right) to get
 home.

 Our mentality both MINE  yours.


 -Original Message-
 From: noel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

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 I dont believe the other issues you mention should take priority over
 the
 compulsory use of helmets.  Our civic sense and road protocol, menace of
 dogs and pigs etc cannot entirely be blamed on the government. We have
 an
 obligation and duty of care to ourselves and to others to ensure that we
 have a safe sense.
 - Original Message -
 From: Luiza de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:35 PM
 Subject: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...


 
  Here we go again with the helmet issue... It was all of a sudden
  implemented last year. Then after the helmet manufacturers, dealers 
 the
  politicians made their money, the rule was scrapped as suddenly as it
 was
  imposed. Definitely looks like they didn't make enough, so here they
 go
  once again this year.
 
  Everyone knows that it is safe to wear a helmet while riding because
 you
  never know when it's going to be your bad day. You could be riding
  carefully, but someone else could knock you down, or you could skid
 due to
  a puncture or oil on the road there could be a lot of silly
 excuses
 for
  an accident. So it would definitely be safe to wear a helmet.
 
  But then besides accidents caused by carelessness, there are those
 which
  are caused due to pure negligence of the government.
 
  Before enforcing the helmet rule, there are a whole lot of other
 hazardous
  excuses for accidents which the government should give priority to
 first.
  To mention just a few: stray cattle, stray dogs, improper road
 lighting,
  proper levelling of roads dug up for laying of pipelines / cables /
 water
  connections, full headlights blinding other drivers on the road, ban
 on
  using blaring air horns which startle other drivers, proper traffic
 sign
  boards, direction boards,  there are still some more to add,
 but
  let the government work on these for starters.
 
  Once all the above have been looked into  then the helmet rule is
 imposed,
  then only riders will be convinced that the government is really
 concerned
  about our safety. Right now everyone knows the obvious reasons for the
  sudden enforcing of the rule.
 
  And to all other riders  drivers, each one knows

Re: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

2003-01-28 Thread noel
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I dont believe the other issues you mention should take priority over the
compulsory use of helmets.  Our civic sense and road protocol, menace of
dogs and pigs etc cannot entirely be blamed on the government. We have an
obligation and duty of care to ourselves and to others to ensure that we
have a safe sense.
- Original Message -
From: Luiza de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:35 PM
Subject: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...



 Here we go again with the helmet issue... It was all of a sudden
 implemented last year. Then after the helmet manufacturers, dealers  the
 politicians made their money, the rule was scrapped as suddenly as it was
 imposed. Definitely looks like they didn't make enough, so here they go
 once again this year.

 Everyone knows that it is safe to wear a helmet while riding because you
 never know when it's going to be your bad day. You could be riding
 carefully, but someone else could knock you down, or you could skid due to
 a puncture or oil on the road there could be a lot of silly excuses
for
 an accident. So it would definitely be safe to wear a helmet.

 But then besides accidents caused by carelessness, there are those which
 are caused due to pure negligence of the government.

 Before enforcing the helmet rule, there are a whole lot of other hazardous
 excuses for accidents which the government should give priority to first.
 To mention just a few: stray cattle, stray dogs, improper road lighting,
 proper levelling of roads dug up for laying of pipelines / cables / water
 connections, full headlights blinding other drivers on the road, ban on
 using blaring air horns which startle other drivers, proper traffic sign
 boards, direction boards,  there are still some more to add, but
 let the government work on these for starters.

 Once all the above have been looked into  then the helmet rule is
imposed,
 then only riders will be convinced that the government is really concerned
 about our safety. Right now everyone knows the obvious reasons for the
 sudden enforcing of the rule.

 And to all other riders  drivers, each one knows that it is a privilege
 for us drive  each of us has a right on the road, and just as our lives
 are precious of us, think of the rest on the road too. Drive carefully,
 don't over-take without horning, don't over-take from the left side, use
 indicators when turning I'm not teaching you. You know how to drive.
 You simply didn't get a license without knowing how to. or did you pay
 a bribe to get one?








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