Re: [Goanet] KONKANI - NOT A DIALECT OF MARATHI -
Mr. Magno like I, have been experiencing difficulties to post on goa net. We are reminded to post using Plain instead of HTML. I have contacted the carrier, AOL who inform me that HTML is a superior language to plain and they have switched to HTML but this does not help a netter to post on Goa Net. The newest version of AOL - 8.0 uses HTML and I am compelled to use AOL.5.0 as I feel I am in a 1945 model T Ford who cannot drive a Caddillac 2003 because the road is too narrow. I may be wrong. I would appeal to the Admin. of goa-net to rework their software to make it easier for netters to post using HTML. I can understand Bosco and Viviana when they write to explain why postings cannot be sent, Thanks. Edgar Martins ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] TidBit.019 (The New Telephone Directory)
TidBits.019 ( The New Telephone Directory ) Most of you, by, now have taken delivery of your new telephone directory. What you have done is returned the bulky old directory along with a xerox of your latest telephone bill which has cost you an additional one rupee and the added inconvenience. You have used your vital time and burnt the expensive petrol to visit the exchange. Or you have changed one or more Goan pride buses to get to the exchange and back. And you have proudly brought home an even more bulkier new telephone directory and you have been happy about the whole thing. But you never realized that what you have just brought home was a load of toilet paper. I am sure that you have had to sit with a paper knife to slit the umpteen joined pages. Then, to your horror, you noticed that the number you were searching for is only half, the other half having been eaten by Alekhya Graphics, the printers. Then you had another shock coming. You dialed a number from the directory, the number you have always been dialing and the impudent female voice has coldly told you that the number does not exist. Then you have invested in another unwanted call to 197 to get the correct number. Your telephone bill has begun to grow. Also, by now you have grown a lot of bile and acid in your system. It is just that what happened to me today. I needed to call the banks where we have our accounts (goasuraj) to have them send us the bank statements for the financial year 2002-2003. The call to the bank of India, Miramar Branch, got the impudent answer that the telephones do not exist. It got me wondering if the Bank had packed off without telling us. Cannot trust banks these days after Ramakant Khalap has been having his way around with public funds. I had to call the BOI Taleigao branch to get the Miramar numbers. Fine. The acid and the bile was under control yet. Then I called the Corporation Bank, Panjim and I got the same impudent voice telling me that the number that I have known for a long long time does not exist. Never mind. I have my trip to Panjim tomorrow. I'll get the statement personally. And it so happened that I have been drafting a congratulatory letter to the Recovery Manager Mr. Mohandas Ramdas of the Mapusa Urban Co-op Bank for filing the FIR and the criminal charges against his long time colleague in the Bank, Mr. Ramakant Khalap. And since Ramdas was my class mate in the Xavier's College (Bastora), a long time ago , I had forgotten his surname. So I decided to look up the MUCB in the new directory so I could ask someone in the bank for the details. This exercise got me the same impudent voice telling me that the numbers does not exist. Still, my bile and the acid was under control, but getting the better of me. Since the MUCB is coming under the Reserve Bank, I had decided to forward a copy of the same congratulatory letter to the head of the Reserve Bank in Goa. I wanted to find out from someone there at the RB who I should address it to. Therefore I looked up the new directory and the same impudent voice told me that the numbers do not exist. Well that was it. The bile was uncontrollable and threatening to spill . I looked up my visiting card holder and found the one belonging to the General Manager, Telecom. Panjim. Mr. A Thomas. I knew that now it was Chenchaiah. I dialed the office number, a number that I had called very often and to my chagrin, some cook in some home answered the call. That was it. The bile had already soiled my desk. I managed to get the right telephone number of the GM and I don't think that he will recover from the acid and bile attack he was under for a full 15 minutes, in a jiffy. And of course, I spoke to him as the President of the Goa Su-Raj Party. I have made no bones about telling him that his new directory is nothing but toilet paper which is full of the matter of the toilets. I have told him that if he does not offer a public apology in the form of advertisement in the newspapers within this week, he can see himself standing in the High Court. When he started giving excuses that the contractor has defaulted, I have told him that as far as we the consumers are concerned it is him that has defaulted and we hold him fully responsible. I have told him that in the days of internet and computers, it was a matter of just days when the entire database could have been corrected before going in print. Overall, Mr. Chenchaiah has been most apologetic and decent and has promised to send me a CD ROM as soon as possible. This is the age of bribes.And bribes work, you know!. In my case it has cooled down my bile, and it has diluted my acid. He has also promised to put the entire Goa telephone directory database on the internet .. S..n, whenever that may be. All said and done, I still have to call 197 to get the Reserve Bank of India, Goa branch. Cheers Floriano ## # Send submiss
[Goanet] NEWS-Goa: Women's groups angered at rape case handling
Women's groups angered at rape case handling >From Pamela D'Mello Panaji: Police and political mishandling of a ghastly gang rape of a fine arts student on her college campus has created a furore here among women's groups. The victim's mother has complained that on 17 May, the 18 year old girl was handed a drug laced cigarette at a college farewell party, and later raped in a toilet by five of her seniors and the college canteen contractor in an unpredendented crime that has shocked this relatively safe state. While police have arrested all the six accused over the past week, the delay in registration of the crime, character assasination of the victim by senior police officials and sections of the local press and faillure to conduct a speedy medical report has angered womens' groups here. The girl's mother was able to register a complaint nearly a week after the incident as the heavily drugged victim was intially coping with the drug's hallucinatory effects and the inability of two state run hospitals to adequately detoxify her. When the victim recalled the crime, police officials at first deterred the victim's mother from filing a complaint, reflective of the reportedly high burking rates in the state's police department. Women's groups are also angered that a proper medical examination was not conducted initially, yet official police statements cast aspersions on the victim's background. What has complicated the case now, is that forensic reports conducted a week after the incident suggest the girl's hymen is intact, though the victim's accounts suggest she was sexually abused in an unnatural manner, while in a highly drugged state. A medical team appointed to verify the facts of this now high-profile case, is divided in its opinion. It is learnt that both female doctors on the panel have pointed to other aspects of the sexual assault, while the other panelists have confirmed the forensic report given earlier. In an interview to a local paper, the victim's mother has now suggested that complaints against four of the accused may be amended, while the still dazed victim is narrowing down to two fellow students as her attackers. Meanwhile opposition Congress leaders have sought the resignation of the chief minister over lapses in the case, the easy availability of narcotics on college campuses and increasingly audacious crimes against women. Last month, a young teacher was burnt to death in an acid attack, while months earlier another young girl was shot dead while returning from her workplace. While police have yet to make a breakthrough in both cases, Congress President Ms Nirmala Sawant has objected to the state's chief minister disclosing intimate and damaging details of one of the deceased victims.(ends) ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Goan culture: Rice and curry?
The recent comments during the bharati sammelan by an outsider (Negi)in regard to mass migration that Goans would not lose their rice and curry goes to show how much these people know about Goa. The publication by dr. Gilbert and Philomena Lawerence, 'Amchi Khobor' will go a long way to help these people understand what Goa is all about. I believe that the situation in Goa is not dire as yet where Goans have to sell their body parts and kids for basic survival. Colaco __ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] Rape and repercussions.
At 12:53 PM 6/1/2003 +0100, you wrote: First and foremost, it should be noted that the alleged victim did not report the incident immediately. How do you expect someone who is in trauma & not in a proper frame to mind to report what has happened immediately? The news tells us that the victim's mother made a police complaint after she came to know what happened to her daughter, but did the police take immediate action? I ask as well why is the Government getting involved in the judicial process, the C.M. has no right to put pressure on the Courts to convict the youths if there is no evidence. The C.M. should not pander to the crowd just to gain kudos. There are the Courts and they should be allowed to do their job unhindered. The C.M./Government had better get involved if they are interested in getting justice done. After all, they are a "government of the people, for the people & by the people" & just like us, they too belong to this State of Goa & are free to express their views & concerns. Besides, they are in a better & more influential position to get justice done, unlike us who can only discuss this issue & not actually involved & do something about it. Also, political influence is used so often for other unfair purposes, so why should they not use it now for a worthwhile cause. Also the Police should not bring the case to Court unless they have strong evidence to bring to bear against the youth concerned. Is there any way to check if a guy is a virgin (not had intercourse)? What evidence can they show? Secondly, why isn't the statement of these culprits taken & published? At least one of them may have confessed the truth if they were given a good flogging & to get the truth out of them. And what evidence will be left on the victim's body on examination a few days after the incident has taken place? The clothes she was wearing during that unfortunate incident were perhaps already washed & she too surely isn't going to stay dirty without a wash & wait till the police investigate & get a team to examine her. But what does the report of the examination at the hospital where she was admitted in Mapusa have to say? Could some one also tell me the difference between the alleged rape committed by three Goan youth working for a cruise ship and in which the G.O.A (U.K.) has gotten involved with and the alleged rape committed in Goa? We are asked to support the youth here in England and you are ready to string the youth up in Goa. Gabriel V Menezes As Zelma De Souza has said in her posting & I fully agree to that, the culprits should be flogged by the police at the premises of the incident in front of the management, students/staff & then put behind bars. Regarding that incident you are trying to differentiate on the cruise ship, whoever has been supporting those Goan youth who committed the rape, deserve a flogging too for trying to stop justice being done to the victim. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
[Goanet] Cybermatrimonials: June # 1 (Mumbai, London, Delhi...)
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[Goanet] For the Borkar family, no water scarcity in summer withrainwater harvesting.
--- Documented by Goa Desc Documentation Service & circulated by Goa Civic & Consumer Action Network (GOA CAN)<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ph:2252660 --- - No scarcity of water in summer - by Rupesh Samant The prelude to monsoons is marked with reports of water scarcity and people walking kms to fetch a bucket of water. But the story of Dr Audhut Borkar's family in Madkai is totally different. They never face water scarcity even in summer and they have a technique which can be practiced by the people who face water scarcity. No tankers or continuously flowing taps, but this family never faces water scarcity. Thanks to their timely step towards rainwater harvesting, which makes this family of four, different from the rest in Madkai village. Their success story is related to its unique example of how roof tops can be used for rainwater harvesting. Every drop falling on their roof is channelised into a tank constructed beneath their house. The house architecture is such that the structure is constructed on two tanks one below their main hall with a capacity of 30,000 cubic litres and another beneath their gallery with the storing capacity of 20,000 cubic litres. Explains Dr Borkar,"the water from the roof is channelised into the tank beneath the house. The 10 by 5 metres roof top has the capacity to harvest around 1 million litres of water." And the water requirement for family is a meager 80,000 cubic litres per year for domestic purpose. For this the water collected from the roof top is more than enough for the family to serve their water requirement throughout the year.This kind of architecture may not be popular but the tanks beneath not only store water but also give a cooling effect to the entire structure. "There is no extra cost involved. Instead of filling the land with mud, we have constructed the tanks," stated Ms Gulab Borkar.The house situated next to Madkai industrial estate would have faced acute water scarcity due to its location. The Borkar family recalls how their initial efforts to dig up a well went in vain. "We later realised that water harvesting is much better solution," stated Ms Borkar. The tanks are built with ferro-cement technology in which a wire mesh is attached to the stones and later plastered. "This makes the construction economical and strong," opines Dr Borkar.It's ironical that Dr Borkar's house is situated in the Madkai village, which has shown its dependence on tap water, letting the water bodies die down. A survey by a non-governmental organisation revealed that out of the 169 wells in the village, more than fifty per cent were not being used. And the situation is worse now with not even 10 wells being used. This is in addition to 11 ponds existing in the village awaiting maintenance. --- The Navhind Times 31/5/03 --- === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development & Democracy === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Re:Moral values and religion
I consider myself an agnostic too, I keep saying I don't know and keep brooding over questions. I often wonder where human thought is heading over the centuries. After Socrates, Plato, Russell, Kant, Nietzsche, religions, cults et al, as time progresses will we evolve in thought (or through thought)? Or is the entire spectrum a finite playground for us, limited by our animal grounding. When we create robots and artificial intelligence, we are acutely aware that our machines cannot know more than us, nor think (if they could) any better than us. So we could also be just limited entities who cannot go beyond the envelope that the very intelligent forces that have made us have programmed for us. Or is it otherwise ? The machines and AI entities that we create are non-living objects, while we are living creatures.A computer may tap into the Internet, but we can tap, as most spiritualists believe, into the Collective Consciousness. We think, fret, invent, philosophise and we are continually butting our heads against the frontiers of knowledge in the search for the Truth deep within.Will we break through in the future and confront our Maker ? An essential, nay fundamental trait of our concept of a living being is the ability to reproduce.If we believe our maker to be a living entity, it/he/she must be capable of reproducing. Having been around for many eons, this entity must be having a vast progeny scattered all over the place.Another trait of a living being is the inevitable death of the being. So the maker-entity must die (Nietzsche notwithstanding). Even with a lifetime in multiples of Methuselah many times, the Being must die. But religion holds that God does not die. So, if we have an entity that does not reproduce or die, then according to our definition, the entity is non-living. So did a non-living entity make us ? That would be a nice joke on us, a 'machine' created us, the living ! Extended further, is it possible that non-living intelligent beings exist ? All our concepts of life are is as per OUR criteria of living, so it is quite possible that life exists outside our criteria and definitions.When we look for life in deep space, we search within our narrow definitions. There is a belief held by some cults/groups that the Earth in its entirety is a living being with its soul 'Gaya' deep within the core and that it reacts with quakes, eruptions, floods to the provocation at the crust. Sounds possible, going by these thoughts. -Jose Lourenco __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] Novel set in Goa...
Fred, The book is by a very famous author. The novel "Stephanie" was published in '92. The novelist wrote 2 subsequent books. More information about the book can be retrieved by contacting the publisher, Ulverscroft Large Print Books. * Bibliography on the author: "Winston Mawdsley Graham was born in Manchesterin 1909. In the late 1920s he moved with his parents to Perraporth, a small village on the coast of Cornwall. After he finished his education, he began writing. By the time he was twenty-three, he was able to make a reasonable living. He also writes historical novels, like the famous 'Poldark' saga." * Attached to this email you will find a number of reviews (taken from Amazon Books) I thought you would be interested in. The reviews briefly summarize the plot of the book: This atmospheric suspense thriller by the author of the Poldark series and Marnie roams from India to England. James Locke, a disabled WW II hero and gardener extraordinaire, refuses to accept an inquest's ruling that his daughter Stephanie's death was "by misadventure." A "cheerful rebel" of 21, Stephanie had taken up with 38-year-old, twice-married Errol Colton, a photographer involved with international "tourist development." On a business trip to sweltering, sultry Goa, India, Stephanie discovers that Errol's briefcase holds a suspicious wad of money along with receipts for flax (code jargon for heroin). At the same time, young law clerk Narish Prasad is forced by a loan shark who backed his gambling debuts to ingest 80 condom-clad packets of heroin to smuggle into England. Their stories collide when Locke pursues the trail of an "accumulation of untoward circumstances," including a grammatically incorrect suicide note and a long-ago murder in Edinburgh. Intriguing characters range from a philanthropist who is about to receive Oxford University's highest honor to nefarious underworld thugs who are involved in a drug ring that stretches from India to Corfu to England. Graham's page-turner combines characters with rich dimensions and spiraling plot twists, and the penultimate scene in Cardiff, Wales's Llandaff Cathedral is mortifyingly trenchant. Copyright 1993 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title. Stephanie Locke is a 21-year-old student at Oxford who has an affair with 38-year-old Errol Colton, a married man. Shortly after she and Errol return from a trip to Goa, Stephanie is found dead in bed, an apparent suicide. At the inquest, Errol testifies that Stephanie became despondent when he decided to stop seeing her, but Stephanie's father knows that something happened during the couple's holiday that so distressed his daughter that she decided to end the affair although she was still very much in love. James Locke's refusal to believe his daughter committed suicide, and his determination to investigate her death, make some people very nervous. The reader travels from Goa and India to Oxford and London in this well-written, suspenseful novel by the author of A Green Flash ( LJ 9/1/87). Strongly recommended. - Elizabeth Mellett, Brookline P.L., Mass. Copyright 1993 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title. Vacationing in India with her married lover Errol Colton, Stephanie Locke accidentally discovers his connection with the drug trade and returns home uncertain about what to do--and, on the evidence, still undecided at the time of her death of a barbiturate overdose shortly thereafter. As her crippled war-hero father James, determined to get revenge on Colton, begins the dogged rounds of his own investigation, Naresh Prasad, recruited as a heroin carrier by Errol's associates, arrives in England and his own personal nightmare. Both James and Naresh, in their different ways, soon develop ambiguous relationships with the police: to say more would spoil the fun. Not much real mystery or detection here, but plenty of surprises from old pro Graham (Ross Poldark, etc., etc.). -- Copyright ©1993, Kirkus Associates, LP. All rights reserved. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title. Stephanie, a young woman with a brilliant future, finds that future at risk when she discovers that Errol, her worldly lover, may have had something to do with the recent murder of a prominent gentleman's daughter. 30,000 first printing. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, t
[Goanet] Birthday on 2nd June 2003
Wishing a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY on behalf of GoaNetters to 2-JunReggie Fernandes Thanks, Vincente. NOTE: Please send your Birthday's details for those who haven't done so far to following e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] 8th B'day wishes for Scelvin
2-JunScelvin Afonso Majorda/Kuwait "Happy Birthday Our Darling Baba Scelvin Afonso, May the Almgihty Good God Makes You a Brilliant and Successful Child in our Family, May he protects U and Keeps U in good health always. Wishes coming from your loving Dad: Santana, Mom: Scelina and your loving Sister: Scelzzy Afonso and Uncle Rafael de Majorda - from Kuwait". NOTE: Please send your Birthday's details for those who haven't done so far to following e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks, Vincente. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] Re: Moral values and religion
In a message dated 06/01/2003 2:37:00 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I am not an atheist. I only claim not to have any knowledge of the existence of a supernatural being. >> Admittedly there is a very fine line of distinction between agnostics and atheists, and the error is regretted :( << There is no fallacy in George's theory. >> You wrote earlier on May 30: << I hope you are not equating atheists and impious people whose moral values are grounded on non-religious philosophies, with criminals and members of Satanic cults >> George first used this equation theory on May 29, and that is all I was alluding to: << there are many atheists who lead moral lives just as there are many people of God leading immoral lives. >> And you now introduce another equation "Even animals have rudiments of morals tied to their social instincts." in comparison to homo sapiens, I guess :-) And so we can go on, ad infinitum! When I last signed off with "In God We Trust" it was as a citizen of the United States of America. You, I, Buddhists, et al. in the US notice it each time a dollar bill changes hands. I am aware of attempts to have that bold declaration changed. Unless and until it does happen, opponents can choose to exercise their option to relocate anywhere. Proud to be a Goan in America: Pat de Sousa Maryland, USA PS: Religion, we all know is something personal and spiritual. It can be argued "there is no need for the emergence of religion," but this world is religion-centered. http://www.catholic-goan-network.net/";> http://www.catholic-goan-network.net ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
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Thanx for sending all the news fr Goa, I m very greatful to u guys. Again thank u very much Love, Anthony Vaz _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]02 JUNE 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS June 02, 2003 CBI SLEUTHS RAID ASST LABOUR COMMISSIONER: A Central Bureau of Investigation raid at the residence of an assistant labour commissioner attached to the central labour ministry, unearthed a booty of Rs 1.42 lakh in cash and property-related documents to the tune of Rs 22 lakh approximately. Judicial sources informed, that the assistant commissioner C P Audichya was raided, after he collected Rs 10,000, the first installment of a bribe from a civil contractor B Chandrashekhar at his residence. (H) COAL POLLUTION BEING MADE A POLITICAL ISSUE: The Vasco MLA, Mr Rajendra Arlekar yesterday stated that the agitation by some individuals is only to gain political mileage in the coal pollution issue. He stated that the people are aware that the Chief Minister had given a six-week deadline in April to the Mormugao Port Trust (MPT) to take necessary steps to control the pollution and added that all necessary efforts would be made to safeguard the health and interest of the people of the port town. Mr Arlekar squarely blamed the MPT management for failing in its responsibility to control coal pollution. He pointed out that he had raised a 'calling attention' motion in the Assembly against coal pollution in Vasco. (NT) SERVANT HELD: The Margao police arrested a person who was working as a servant in a house at Margao in connection with theft of cash and gold ornaments worth Rs 84,000. The alleged accused was produced before Judicial Magistrate First Class (JMFC), Margao and a remand was taken. According to the information available from police sub-inspector, Mr Sudesh Naik, Oswald Coutinho was working with Mr Joe Luis Rodrigues for the past seven months. Police said that on Friday he effected entry in the house and stole cash Rs 72,000, a gold chain, gold cross and other items. (NT) FLAT BURGLED IN PORVORIM: A flat situated at Shantinagar, Porvorim, was burgled by unidentified persons recently. According to a complaint lodged by Aureo Miguel D'Souza, the theft occurred between 30 April to 20 May when the inmates had gone out. (GT) NRI CELL TO BE UPGRADED: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar has said that NRI Facilitation Cell would be upgraded to redress the problems faced by non-resident Goans and matters pertaining to create opportunities for the children of NRIs. Participation of non-resident Goans will be sought in the overall development of the State, he said. Parrikar was replying during the questions and answer session at the meet of Goans-Gomant Bharati Sammelan organised at Rajiv Kala Mandir, Ponda. (http://oherald.com/newherald/newsBRN.asp?qId=2992&qSec=BRN&qNType=R) GOLF COURSES WILL ATTRACT RICH TOURISTS: Hotel and Restaurant Association (Western India) president, Vivek Nair, stated that the government of Goa should promote convention tourism and world-class golf courses to attract high-spending tourists in the State. He was participating in a discussion on tourism at the Gomant Bharati Sammelan at Rajiv Kala Mandir on Saturday. Nair said that the convention tourist was the fastest growing segment of world tourism with an annual growth of more than 20 per cent. (GT) "MY NEPHEW WAS FRAMED": John Claro is one of the several elderly persons, with long, drawn-out faces, camping throughout the day under a large mango tree in the Police Head Quarters, Panjim, from May 24. Claro, a veteran tiatrist, is the uncle of Norman Tagore, one of the accused in the alleged gang-rape of an 18-year-old IIIrd year student at the Goa College of Art, Altinho on May 17. He claimed that Norman, a resident of Aquem, Margao, and his four friends were 'framed', by a suspended student of the Fine Arts college, who he claimed had "feelings" for the victim. (http://oherald.com/newherald/newsBRN.asp?qId=2991&qSec=BRN&qNType=R) MARGAO JAYCEES TO HOLD CONFERENCE: The Megh Malhar (South regional conference) will be hosted by Margao Jaycees for the LOMs of South region of Zone XI. This conference, which will be chaired by Nitin Prabhu, will be held on June 8 at Grace Church hall, Margao. Many prominent Jaycees along with zone president, Sadhashiv Sirsat will attend the conference. (H) CCI CHIEF CRITICAL OF GOA'S TOP PLACE: President of Confederation of Indian Industry (CII), Goa Chapter, Yatin Kakodkar, was extremely critical in his views on the country's numero uno State. "Dearth of industrial expertise and intelligence, local-centric mind-set and short-sightedness," are some of the nuggets on Goa, which he had reserved, in the speech, he delivered during a seminar on industry, in the second session of the Gomant Bharati Sammelan held at Rajiv Kala Mandir, Ponda on Saturday afternoon Sanjeev Kerkar, explaining how the State government can induce industrial growth stressed the need for giving impetus to service sector. "In this sector Goa can make advancement in education, call centers, film production, tourism with special emphasis on
[Goanet] 02 JUNE 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS June 02, 2003 CBI SLEUTHS RAID ASST LABOUR COMMISSIONER: A Central Bureau of Investigation raid at the residence of an assistant labour commissioner attached to the central labour ministry, unearthed a booty of Rs 1.42 lakh in cash and property-related documents to the tune of Rs 22 lakh approximately. Judicial sources informed, that the assistant commissioner C P Audichya was raided, after he collected Rs 10,000, the first installment of a bribe from a civil contractor B Chandrashekhar at his residence. (H) COAL POLLUTION BEING MADE A POLITICAL ISSUE: The Vasco MLA, Mr Rajendra Arlekar yesterday stated that the agitation by some individuals is only to gain political mileage in the coal pollution issue. He stated that the people are aware that the Chief Minister had given a six-week deadline in April to the Mormugao Port Trust (MPT) to take necessary steps to control the pollution and added that all necessary efforts would be made to safeguard the health and interest of the people of the port town. Mr Arlekar squarely blamed the MPT management for failing in its responsibility to control coal pollution. He pointed out that he had raised a 'calling attention' motion in the Assembly against coal pollution in Vasco. (NT) SERVANT HELD: The Margao police arrested a person who was working as a servant in a house at Margao in connection with theft of cash and gold ornaments worth Rs 84,000. The alleged accused was produced before Judicial Magistrate First Class (JMFC), Margao and a remand was taken. According to the information available from police sub-inspector, Mr Sudesh Naik, Oswald Coutinho was working with Mr Joe Luis Rodrigues for the past seven months. Police said that on Friday he effected entry in the house and stole cash Rs 72,000, a gold chain, gold cross and other items. (NT) FLAT BURGLED IN PORVORIM: A flat situated at Shantinagar, Porvorim, was burgled by unidentified persons recently. According to a complaint lodged by Aureo Miguel D'Souza, the theft occurred between 30 April to 20 May when the inmates had gone out. (GT) NRI CELL TO BE UPGRADED: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar has said that NRI Facilitation Cell would be upgraded to redress the problems faced by non-resident Goans and matters pertaining to create opportunities for the children of NRIs. Participation of non-resident Goans will be sought in the overall development of the State, he said. Parrikar was replying during the questions and answer session at the meet of Goans-Gomant Bharati Sammelan organised at Rajiv Kala Mandir, Ponda. (http://oherald.com/newherald/newsBRN.asp?qId=2992&qSec=BRN&qNType=R) GOLF COURSES WILL ATTRACT RICH TOURISTS: Hotel and Restaurant Association (Western India) president, Vivek Nair, stated that the government of Goa should promote convention tourism and world-class golf courses to attract high-spending tourists in the State. He was participating in a discussion on tourism at the Gomant Bharati Sammelan at Rajiv Kala Mandir on Saturday. Nair said that the convention tourist was the fastest growing segment of world tourism with an annual growth of more than 20 per cent. (GT) "MY NEPHEW WAS FRAMED": John Claro is one of the several elderly persons, with long, drawn-out faces, camping throughout the day under a large mango tree in the Police Head Quarters, Panjim, from May 24. Claro, a veteran tiatrist, is the uncle of Norman Tagore, one of the accused in the alleged gang-rape of an 18-year-old IIIrd year student at the Goa College of Art, Altinho on May 17. He claimed that Norman, a resident of Aquem, Margao, and his four friends were 'framed', by a suspended student of the Fine Arts college, who he claimed had "feelings" for the victim. (http://oherald.com/newherald/newsBRN.asp?qId=2991&qSec=BRN&qNType=R) MARGAO JAYCEES TO HOLD CONFERENCE: The Megh Malhar (South regional conference) will be hosted by Margao Jaycees for the LOMs of South region of Zone XI. This conference, which will be chaired by Nitin Prabhu, will be held on June 8 at Grace Church hall, Margao. Many prominent Jaycees along with zone president, Sadhashiv Sirsat will attend the conference. (H) CCI CHIEF CRITICAL OF GOA'S TOP PLACE: President of Confederation of Indian Industry (CII), Goa Chapter, Yatin Kakodkar, was extremely critical in his views on the country's numero uno State. "Dearth of industrial expertise and intelligence, local-centric mind-set and short-sightedness," are some of the nuggets on Goa, which he had reserved, in the speech, he delivered during a seminar on industry, in the second session of the Gomant Bharati Sammelan held at Rajiv Kala Mandir, Ponda on Saturday afternoon Sanjeev Kerkar, explaining how the State government can induce industrial growth stressed the need for giving impetus to service sector. "In this sector Goa can make advancement in education, call centers, film production, tourism with special emphasis on
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goan soccer lovers ! With reference to Mervyn Lobo's posting on goans playing soccer in Tanzania, I would like to add that Ronnie Fernandes also played for the Eastern Province in addition to the two players he mentioned- Edward Fernandes and Ronnie's younger brother - goal-keeper Michael Fernandes. I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that goans in Dar es Salaam- the capital and main city of Tanzania won the league championships in 1951 and 1960. Leo Fortes from Mwanza - the Lake Victoria port in north-east Tanzania also played for the Mwanza Co-op soccer club- one of eight soccer teams seeded in the National Club Chmapionships. Leo,who is also a very good field hockey goal-keeper,also played for Mwanza region. These are the only players I could think of. There were also many goans in Tanzania who played for major soccer clubs in India in their prime. These included Fenelon Almeida who played for India's noted Tartars team, and the late Francis DeSouza whose last posting was the Physical Education Director of Goa 's Dempo College. Fenny and Francis were members of the 1952 Goan Institute hockey team that won the M.R. D'Souza Gold Cup tournament- the "blue ribbon" of East African hockey. It must be borne in mind that prior to 1957 in East Africa, no non- Africans could represent the four British dependencies- Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda and Zanzibar in the annual tournament for the Gossage Cup- the fore-runner of the East African Challenge tournament. And since these were colonies and trust territories, there were no sports contacts with many soccer nations. Tony Barros, New Jersey. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] Gomant Bharati Sammelan - Rajiv Gandhi Kala Mandir Ponda Goa -- areport
Very interesting account Godfrey. I am sorry that I could not attend due to personal circumstances. Some of the points that caught my attention were: "What was extremely riduculous was that while the function should have actually tried to ascertain the views of the several Goan delegates who had moved outside Goa by "compulsion or choice to better their educational economic or social advancement", or to ascertain their views on what they thought of Goa after 41 years of Liberation or 16 years after attaining Statehood and whether they would like to come back to their roots given the conducive opportunities for the same and if in the afirmative what assitance they would require from the Goa government in this regard.. " . . "Sadly there were no signs of the Catholic Community Goans from the from the Old Conquests. . ." . . "In the process much of the Sammelan objectives lost its purpose." . "According to SGPIAG many of the Goans would be ready to settle in the land of their roots but they wanted the Government to assist them on retrieving their properties from illegal encroachements, expediting inventory partition and mutation cases, and relaxation of domicile and language requirements for employment and education their children once the Goan identity or parentage was ascertained, and finally relaxation in subsidy emtitlement for setting up industries." . . "A definition of who is a Goan emerged as one who is acquainted with -- a gaunkari, a mandd a barazan,Satteri Shantadurga Milagres Pir sannas sorpotel bebinca ghumat deuchar intruz --- the one who maintains "Dharmik Sloka: - communal harmony and one who believes culture as different from religion and accepts Konakni as mother tongue emerged from Mr Vinayak Khedekar." . . "He also ridiculed the Konakni protoganists that while it was easier to speak Konkani its reading was difficult and the Konkani protoganists need to address themselves to this aspect." Perhaps the next Sammelan will address the deficiencies of this initial one. Let us hope anyway. And, Oh! Yes! VIVA GOA!!! Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goa, INDIA _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] Would a helmet have helped?
Aloysius D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Time, > > Maybe you should wear a helmet in bed -- far more > people die in bed than > from the consequences of two-wheeler accidents -- > > Sleep well with a helmet on > > Aloysius D'Souza Folks, I believe I am going to start awarding prize's for the dumbest post here on Goanet. I already have the cash for the winners. CAD$50 for the worst posting CAD$75 for the next worse and CAD $100 for the third placed. And don't you worry. The loser's will be chosen only from the posting made BEFORE 31st May 2003. Those of you who want to nominate your postings for the prize, please contact me. Mervyn D'thru Lobo Toronto, Canada __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet] KONKANI - NOT A DIALECT OF MARATHI -
This past weekend, I was at a wedding where I met a Pakistani lady from Karachi. She had met many Goans in Karachi and was told by them that Konkani was actually a MIX of Hindi and Portuguese like it's some sort of Creole or something. Now we ALL should know that there's nothing further from the truth than the above claim. Has anyone else ever heard anyone make such a statement about the Konkani language? Neal Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nealpinto.com - --- On Thu 05/29, Bosco - Goanet Volunteer < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: From: Bosco - Goanet Volunteer [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 19:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Goanet] KONKANI - NOT A DIALECT OF MARATHI - On Thu, 29 May 2003 10:29:01 +0200, "Magno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" wrote:KONKANI - NOT A DIALECT OF MARATHIby Basilio Magno (Spain)The long article in the Navhind Times early in May, titled: "Future of Konkaniis Not Very Bright" has caught the Goan community overseas by surprise and asense of rage that Shri Subash Bhende had the audacity to say that Konkani is adialect of Marathi. I guess, he is only exercising His Master's Voice, havingbeen elected in Maharashtra as the President of All India Marathi SahityaSamelan. Maharashtra's expansionistic designs on Goa is no secret and perhaps ShriBhende's interview is an attempt to furthe their cause. After sixteen yearssince Konkani was recognized as State language, the Marathiwallas have nowresurrected the language polemics in order to claim Marathi to be Goa's Statelanguage branding Konkani as a dialect of Marathi. But how dare Shri Bhende saythat "Konkani is a dialect of Marathi," when there are all the testimonies toprove that Konkani is an independent Indo-Aryan language, derived from Prakritsand Sanskrit. The fact that Bhende himself says he speaks at home Konkani andhas been teaching his seven-year-old grandson, is enough proof that Konkani isalso the Mothertongue of the Hindus in Goa and they have been respecting it tillnow.The Konkani language problem, Shri Bhende must be reminded, has been resolvedand sealed in 1987, and the double seal was placed on it on 20 August 1992, whenit entered the 8th Schedule of the Indian Constitution. That the Konkanilanguage is not a dialect of Marathi and that it is an independent language hasbeen shown by many prominent philologists, notably among them the renownedKonkani lexicographer Mgr. Sebastian Rudolpho Dalgado.In the Introduction to his book Konkani-Portuguese Dictionary - first publishedin 1893 in Portugal, Mgr. Dalgado w rites: "...From that I conclude briefly that(1) the Konkani language is Aryan and inflexive and not dravidian oragglutinative. (2) it assimilates much to Balabasha. (3) It distances lessfrom Sanskrit in grammar and vocabulary than of Marathi. (4) It is not adialect or corruption of Marathietc.Another philologist - Gerson da Cunha (1884-1900) in a book "Konkani a Language" by Dr. Jose Pereira, says: " It is said that the Marathi language is thenearest to Sanskrit of all the vernacular languages of India, but as far asordinary expressions in use are concerned, Konkani may perhaps claim to be notonly the Southernmost, but also the North India or Aryan family of languages. Although Konkani has many words in common with Marathistill there are wordscurrent among the Konkanas which cannot have been derived from Marathi.In evidence da Cunha gives the following table:" I - Konkani: ahum, Sanskrit:aham, M arathi: mi; Parrot: kir-kira-popat; Crane: bokem-baka-bagala; Dog: sunnem-svan-kutra; Thigh: zang-janga-mandi; Cheek: polo-kapola-gal; Bracelet:kankonn-kankana-bangadi; Cord: razu-rajju-dori. In all these words the Konkaniwords are based on the Sanskrit, the Marathi ones not. The same is true ofwords like polleum, uloum, apoum, votsum, etc."Dr. Jose Pereira in his Foreword to the book: "Konkani Self Taught" by Deorai,writes: "Besides, Konkani was the first of modern Indo-Aryan languages to bestandardized. It is usually grammar and prose, and not verse, that fix alanguage. The first grammar on any modern Indian tongue was one on Konkanicomposed by an unknown Goan lay brother of the College of St. Paul in Old Goa in1560." Dr. Pereira further in the same Foreword mentions the great prose-workin Konkani, saying: "Our effort of this age survives a large tome containingtales from the 'Mahabharata' and 'Ramayana' pr eserved in MS form in the PublicLibrary at Braga, in Portugal."Those who are interested to know the true status of the Konkani language woulddo well to read Dr. Jose Pereira's book: "KONKANI A LANGUAGE" - History ofthe Konkan-Marathi Controversy, published in 1971 by the Karnatak University,Darwar, India. Dr. Pereira is a post-graduate in Sanskrit and has specializedin ancient Indian Culture. He is presently a Professor at the FordhamUniversity in New York, USA.#
[Goanet] Re: Getting Connected [Goanet-news]
Dear All: Thanks to some tinkering, I have lost all my connections and all my address . Can anybody put me in contact with Rene Barretto, Vivian Desouza. etc Adolfo Mascarenhas Dar es Salaam ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] Would a helmet have helped?
Do you think that it's funny ??? "Tim de Mello" than ask yourself " khauvn Mello"? and you will learn when to use your helmet issue... > > I wonder if a helmet would have helped dear Mr. Colaco? RIP. > > > And, Oh! Yes! > > VIVA GOA!!! > > Tim de Mello > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Goa, INDIA - Original Message - From: "Tim de Mello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: [Goanet] Would a helmet have helped? > BID TO RETRIEVE POT COSTS LIFE: An attempt to retrieve a pot from the well > proved costly, when a 38-year-old man from Shetye waddo in Duler drowned in > the well on Friday. Mapusa police said Mario S Colaco, a native of Verna, > descended into the nearby well at about 9.45 am, in order to retrieve a pot > which had fallen in the well a few days earlier. Colaco removed the pot and > was coming up without the assistance of a rope, when he slipped and fell > into the well. Those present above then lowered a rope to aid Colaco's climb > and as Colaco was climbing up, he slipped for the second time and drowned in > the well. (H) > > == > > I wonder if a helmet would have helped dear Mr. Colaco? RIP. > > > And, Oh! Yes! > > VIVA GOA!!! > > Tim de Mello > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Goa, INDIA > > _ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > ## > # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # > # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # > # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # > ## ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] NEWS: Goa hopes to become a mini-Cannes with Delhi's backing soon
Goa hopes to become a mini-Cannes with Delhi's backing soon By Frederick Noronha PANAJI (Goa), May 31: India's tourism destination of Goa could see visitors get another reason to stop by, as the government here is confident this state could replicate a smaller version of the Cannes international film festivals. Goa's delegation which recently returned from the international film festival on the French coast say they are confident "we can do it". New Delhi is seen here as seriously considering shifting away the international film festival from Delhi to Goa, possibly by 2004. "A formal decision is expected (from the Government of India) in the second week of June," official sources told IANS here. Egged on by CII, the Confederation of Indian Industry, which were among the early backers of this idea, Goa feels it could do a good job of the film festivals, notwithstanding it current lack of large film auditoria, and transport and related infrastructure needed for such a meet. "To begin with, we would need a hall of 1000-1500 seater capacity, and others of 500 or 250 seater capacity. But there have also been suggestions of open screenings, on beaches, as done in festivals like Nogarno (Japan) where huge hangers with mounted screens are set up," sources told IANS. Last fortnight, a three-member team -- consisting of Health Minister Suresh Amonkar (in his capacity as the CM's representative), Information Secretary Ms. Jayashree Raghuraman and Director Information Rajesh Singh -- went to Cannes. Goa had a pavillion there, making this perhaps the first Indian state to show its direct interest at the international film festival. Till New Delhi first started talking about the possibility of doing a Cannes in Goa, there was little thought about this possiblity here. Together with this unlikely tiny state were other giant Indian private players like Ramoji Films (US), the Hindujas' films network, one of the largest distributors of Indian films globally Eros International, among others. If it can't get the scale right, this small state believes it could manage a smaller version of international film fests currently held at Cannes, Berlin, Moscow, Nogarno (Japan), Pusan (South Korea) or Milan. Chief minister Manohar Parrikar, one of the few surviving BJP chief ministers enjoying regional power, has committed upto Rs 800 million (Rs 80 crore) of state funding if "nobody" else comes ahead from the private sector. Film-critics point to the lack of film-viewing culture in Goa, of any significant standard. But others point to the ambience here, and the fact that tourist-destination Goa is a recognised 'brand name' internationally. Official quarters here were upbeat that even if Goa "starts from scratch" it could build up some presence globally in a decade-and-half. Cannes had offered Goa consultancy, at a cost, for its endeavours. Goa could help give Bollywood, some 600 kms north and centred around Mumbai, a chance to build up a more organised film market for itself, argues this state. Even the infrastructure created would not go waste, as it could be used hosting a convention centre for the rest of the year, it is argued. To build up Goa's USP -- from an unknown player to international contender -- one strategy being suggested is that this place builds up its reputation as a centre for Asian-Australian films. (ENDS) ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Novel set in Goa...
DOES ANYONE know more about this book? I came across an edited version in Reader's Digest Condensed Books (1993), London: STEPHANIE by Winston Graham. Illustrated by John Hancock. "On the beaches of Goa, twenty-one-year-old Stephanie Locke is is having the time of her life, basking in the pleasure of her relatiionship with Errol Colton, a man whose business dealings may be veiled in secrecy, but whose passion for Stephanie is very apparent. "At the same time, in a backstreet tea-house in Bombay, a young Indian clerk named Nari is facing the terrifying prospect of risking his life in order to settle a loan he cannot possibly repay. "Though these two will never meet, their fates are linked. Both are about to become the victims of a highly lucrative, illicit trade... "Winston Graham weaves a powerful tale of deception and greed in this brand-new novel which adds distinction to his reputation as one of Britain's finest storytellers" -- - Frederick Noronha (FN)| http://www.fredericknoronha.net Freelance Journalist | http://www.bytesforall.org http://goalinks.pitas.com | http://joingoanet.shorturl.com http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks - T: 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 M: 0 9822 122436 - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]Women's groups angered at rape case handling
Panaji, May 29:Police and political mishandling of a ghastly gang rape of a fine arts student on her college campus has created a furore here among women's groups. The victim's mother has complained that on 17 May, the 18 year old girl was handed a drug laced cigarette at a college farewell party, and later raped in a toilet by five of her seniors and the college canteen contractor in an unpredendented crime that has shocked this relatively safe state. While police have arrested all the six accused over the past week, the delay in registration of the crime, character assasination of the victim by senior police officials and sections of the local press and faillure to conduct a speedy medical report has angered womens' groups here. The girl's mother was able to register a complaint nearly a week after the incident as the heavily drugged victim was intially coping with the drug's hallucinatory effects and the inability of two state run hospitals to adequately detoxify her. When the victim recalled the crime, police officials at first deterred the victim's mother from filing a complaint, reflective of the reportedly high burking rates in the state's police department. Women's groups are also angered that a proper medical examination was not conducted initially, yet official police statements cast aspersions on the victim's background. What has complicated the case now, is that forensic reports conducted a week after the incident suggest the girl's hymen is intact, though the victim's accounts suggest she was sexually abused in an unnatural manner, while in a highly drugged state. A medical team appointed to verify the facts of this now high-profile case, is divided in its opinion. It is learnt that both female doctors on the panel have pointed to other aspects of the sexual assault, while the other panelists have confirmed the forensic report given earlier. In an interview to a local paper, the victim's mother has now suggested that complaints against four of the accused may be amended, while the still dazed victim is narrowing down to two fellow students as her attackers. Meanwhile opposition Congress leaders have sought the resignation of the chief minister over lapses in the case, the easy availability of narcotics on college campuses and increasingly audacious crimes against women. Last month, a young teacher was burnt to death in an acid attack, while months earlier another young girl was shot dead while returning from her workplace. While police have yet to make a breakthrough in both cases, Congress President Ms Nirmala Sawant has objected to the state's chief minister disclosing intimate and damaging details of one of the deceased victims.(ends) --- ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ___ Goanet-news mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet-news
[Goanet] Re: Moral values and religion
Paddy wrote: > >Of course I was aware that you are an avowed athiest on Goanet but >certainly wasn't equating anything. > I am not an atheist. I only claim not to have any knowledge of the existence of a supernatural being. But I respect the right of those who claim to have such knowledge without being convinced they do. > >I was simply expounding the fallacy of such a theory. It is a well >established fact that had it not been for religious or social >restraints, homo sapiens would be no different from counterparts in >the animal kingdom. There might is right, with the survival of the >fittest instinct :( > There is no fallacy in George's theory. A belief in God is not required to be considered a moral person. Period. The emergence of social structure and restraints is important, but there is no need for the emergence of religion. Even animals have rudiments of morals tied to their social instincts. Elephants do not kill their own, and they grieve the death of a family member for a very long time, for instance, by holding its bones in its trunk while assuming a solemn posture. You are simply wrong about what you consider as established facts. I think Floriano's following quote is more on the mark. " In whatever we do, each one of us are morally justified in our own way through our own conscience. The problem is the conscience. It is universal and knows right from wrong." > >In God We Trust: > A substantial population of the world doesn't, including some who are very religious and spiritual, such as the Buddhists. Cheers, Santosh ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] The Guardian: There's more to Goa than raves and beaches.
I am taking the liberty of proffering a small comment on Stephanie Debere's description of things Goan. I do feel that erudite writers, like her, in particular should take a second's time to consult a dictionary on words unfamilar to him/her. The word sossegado (no r, there, mind you) means laid-back or relaxed. It is a bit difficult to find the exact equivalent for it in English. Living here in Portugal I seldom,if ever hear, that word being employed here. They have apparently forgotten the richness of that word "sossegado" which translates so truly the relaxed, care-free attitude of Goans in general. That is the only outburst, which I could not help releasing from my bosom. I hope Netters won't mind... Fernando Peres da Costa ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Quotable Quote
= All things are possible until they are proved impossible - and even the impossible may only be so, as of now. - Pearl S. Buck (1892-1973) = ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Info.
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 17:22:27 +, "Ives Pereira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" wrote: Hello: I wonder whether you have a nomenclature of private homes in Goa offering clean and reasonably priced accommodation with cooking facilities. Most retirees from Canada and elsewhere would like to holiday away from the noise that generally plagues hotels in Goa. They would also like to detach themselves from the exorbitant prices that many hotels demand. If there is a nomenclature in existence please give me a clue as how to get at it. I believe that one way to spread the wealth among Goans is to support the ordinary hard working Goan who would like to better his income. Most retirees like me generally come to Goa for three months every year. My host is a Goan family who make a tidy income each year from two apartments that it owns. I would appreciate your assistance. Sincerely, Ives Pereira ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]01 JUNE 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS June 01, 2003 KONKANI IS CORE OF GOAN IDENTITY: MEET: The Gomant Bharati Sammelan, a convention of Goan diaspora in the country, made it clear that that Konkani is the core of the Goan identity. Vinayak Khedekar, former secretary, Kala Academy, and a known staunch Maharastrawadi addressed the gathering during the cultural session on Saturday evening, in Konkani. Damu Kenkre, founder member secretary and director of Kala Academy, however, disagreed, and pointed out that culture is never static and that leading Goan artist Mukibai Kaldekar to Kesarbai Kerkar to Gaitonde (painter) to Remo, all had developed on the Goan groups and assimilated the culture of other places without forgetting their roots. GKA chief Pundalik Naik who chaired the session on culture and noted Konkani poet Manoharrai Sardesai also reiterated that Goan identity was rooted in the Konkani language. George Menezes and Dinar Tarcar were the moderators for the question answer session. The chief minister was participating in a question-answer session. Prominent among those present were Cortalim MLA (UGDP), Mathany Saldanha and former chief minister, Shashikala Kakodkar. The sammelan was co-ordinated by Pramod Shetye, Anil Tendulkar and Dinar Tarcar among others. Chief Secretary Dev Singh Negi inaugurated the Sammelan in the presence of General (retired) Sunit Rodrigues, Sammelan convenor Dinar Bhatkar, Chandrakant Keni and Jagdish Wagh. NRI Cell chairman Chandrakant Keni welcomed the gathering, while Sammelan convenor Dinar Bhatkar later proposed the vote of thanks. (H) RESOURCES FOR NRGS: CM Manohar Parrikar yesterday stated that the government intents to utilise the resources for non-resident Goans (NRGs) in the overall development of the State and put the wheels of economy on the right tracks. For this he banked on human resources of the Goan diaspora scattered in the country, he added, at the Rajiv Kala Mandir, Ponda, yesterday. (WE-GT) NON-RESIDENT GOANS URGE BJP GOVT TO IMPROVE TOURISM: The non-resident Goans, who participated in the day-long Gomant Bharati Sammelan held at Ponda, have called for good governance, strong tourism, augmented industry and improvement in education and health care in the state General Sunith Rodrigues termed the event as historic as it was a dream-come-dream event. He said that it was important that the people of the common origin had come together to exchange their views on vital topics. Education, industry and tourism in Goa were discussed in various sessions of the conference with various intellectuals calling for improvement in the same. (http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=060127) SELAULIM BOTANICAL PARK: The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar has said that services of five major corporations such as Goa Tourism Development Corporation (GTDC), Economic Development Corporation (EDC), GFDC, Industrial Development Corporation (IDC) and KVIC will be effectively utilised to achieve all-round development of the state. He was speaking as the chief guest after laying the foundation stone for the proposed Rs 15.47 crore botanical garden-cum-eco recreational park at the Salaulim Dam site on the occasion of Goa Statehood Day . (http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=060123) CLOSURE OF CHANDEL WATER PROJECT: The Pernem MLA and Congress Legislature Party (CLP) spokesperson, Mr Jeetendra Deshprabhu said that Pernem taluka has found itself in a major crisis because of limited or no drinking water supply, due to the forced closure of Chandel Water Works since the morning of May 31. "The treatment plant at Chandel Water Works could not be operated as no water from Kal or Kalna river, which is drawn to support the entire need of water of the Pernem taluka, was available," he added. The present capacity of the plant is 15 MLD. (NT) 'TRADING OF MOTHERLAND' SHOULD STOP, SAYS KENI: The senior journalist and noted writer, Mr Chandrakant Keni, said that environmental pollution, unlimited tourism and non-Goans settling in Goa in large numbers are the major problems, which the state would be facing in the near future. Mr Keni who was presenting his views during a debate on the topic Goem Rajyachi Bhashik ani Rajaki Bunyad, the linguistic and political foundation of Goa state, organised by Konkan Times in the city, further observed, "the foundation of Goa's statehood is based on the Konkani language and any harm to it would do irreversible damage to the state." (NT) WOES OF KERAL'S KUDUMBI COMMUNITY: The conclave of illustrious Goans at the Gomant Bharati Sammelan (GBS) was also attended by a few little known exceptions. The members of Kudumbi community who had migrated from Goa to Kerala fearing religious prosecution were today the odd ones out. Clad in lungis and shirts as compared to the well-dressed sons of soil the group led by practising lawyer, Mr O S Ramakrishnan, nurtured high hope
Re: [Goanet] KONKANI - NOT A DIALECT OF MARATHI -
Dear Bosco, Thank you for your e-mail, and for forwarding my article to Goanet. I cannot understand what is meant by ¡Plain Text' Viviana too once wrote to me the same thing. Please explain what is meant by PLAIN TEXT, and why sometimes the messages go through without difficulty, even though I send them from the same computer or software. I have had no such problem with other nets. You want to know what I use as my e-mail client. I don't know what that meansbut I presume the software. I use MICROSOFT OUTLOOK EXPRESS 5 Will be most grateful to you for your help. I am really a computer-ignorant. All I know is to send an e-mail... nothing more. Kind regards. Basilio Magno (Spain) - Original Message - From: "Bosco - Goanet Volunteer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 4:03 AM Subject: [Goanet] KONKANI - NOT A DIALECT OF MARATHI - > On Thu, 29 May 2003 10:29:01 +0200, "Magno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" wrote: > > KONKANI - NOT A DIALECT OF MARATHI > > by Basilio Magno (Spain) > > The long article in the Navhind Times early in May, titled: "Future of Konkani > is Not Very Bright" has caught the Goan community overseas by surprise and a > sense of rage that Shri Subash Bhende had the audacity to say that Konkani is a > dialect of Marathi. I guess, he is only exercising His Master's Voice, having > been elected in Maharashtra as the President of All India Marathi Sahitya > Samelan. > > Maharashtra's expansionistic designs on Goa is no secret and perhaps Shri > Bhende's interview is an attempt to furthe their cause. After sixteen years > since Konkani was recognized as State language, the Marathiwallas have now > resurrected the language polemics in order to claim Marathi to be Goa's State > language branding Konkani as a dialect of Marathi. But how dare Shri Bhende say > that "Konkani is a dialect of Marathi," when there are all the testimonies to > prove that Konkani is an independent Indo-Aryan language, derived from Prakrits > and Sanskrit. The fact that Bhende himself says he speaks at home Konkani and > has been teaching his seven-year-old grandson, is enough proof that Konkani is > also the Mothertongue of the Hindus in Goa and they have been respecting it till > now. > > The Konkani language problem, Shri Bhende must be reminded, has been resolved > and sealed in 1987, and the double seal was placed on it on 20 August 1992, when > it entered the 8th Schedule of the Indian Constitution. That the Konkani > language is not a dialect of Marathi and that it is an independent language has > been shown by many prominent philologists, notably among them the renowned > Konkani lexicographer Mgr. Sebastian Rudolpho Dalgado. > > In the Introduction to his book Konkani-Portuguese Dictionary - first published > in 1893 in Portugal, Mgr. Dalgado writes: "...From that I conclude briefly that > (1) the Konkani language is Aryan and inflexive and not dravidian or > agglutinative. (2) it assimilates much to Balabasha. (3) It distances less > from Sanskrit in grammar and vocabulary than of Marathi. (4) It is not a > dialect or corruption of Marathietc. > > Another philologist - Gerson da Cunha (1884-1900) in a book "Konkani a Language" > by Dr. Jose Pereira, says: " It is said that the Marathi language is the > nearest to Sanskrit of all the vernacular languages of India, but as far as > ordinary expressions in use are concerned, Konkani may perhaps claim to be not > only the Southernmost, but also the North India or Aryan family of languages. > Although Konkani has many words in common with Marathistill there are words > current among the Konkanas which cannot have been derived from Marathi. > > In evidence da Cunha gives the following table:" I - Konkani: ahum, Sanskrit: > aham, Marathi: mi; Parrot: kir-kira-popat; Crane: bokem-baka-bagala; Dog: > sunnem-svan-kutra; Thigh: zang-janga-mandi; Cheek: polo-kapola-gal; Bracelet: > kankonn-kankana-bangadi; Cord: razu-rajju-dori. In all these words the Konkani > words are based on the Sanskrit, the Marathi ones not. The same is true of > words like polleum, uloum, apoum, votsum, etc." > > Dr. Jose Pereira in his Foreword to the book: "Konkani Self Taught" by Deorai, > writes: "Besides, Konkani was the first of modern Indo-Aryan languages to be > standardized. It is usually grammar and prose, and not verse, that fix a > language. The first grammar on any modern Indian tongue was one on Konkani > composed by an unknown Goan lay brother of the College of St. Paul in Old Goa in > 1560." Dr. Pereira further in the same Foreword mentions the great prose-work > in Konkani, saying: "Our effort of this age survives a large tome containing > tales from the 'Mahabharata' and 'Ramayana' preserved in MS form in the Public > Library at Braga, in Portugal." > > Those who are interested to know the true status of the Konkani language would > do well to read Dr. Jose Pereira's book: "KONKANI A LANGUAGE"
[Goanet] Gomant Bharati Sammelan - Rajiv Gandhi Kala Mandir Ponda Goa -- a report
It was billed as an unique gathering of Goans who migrated to States outside Goa but within India (the earlier emphasis was on the Goan diaspora worldwide)the first of its kind. "Together for Goa" as the brochure edited by Mr. Jagdish B. Wagh and released on the ocassion suggested. The technocrat, Chief Minister, and Chief Patron of the Sammelan, Sri Manohar Gopalkrishna Prabhu Parrikar mooted this gathering and got the Non Resident Indian Facilitation Centre which comes under the Home Ministry, to chalk out a day long programme on an otherwise hot summer day on 31.5.2003 But as Mr. Dinar Bhatkar who appropriated to himself the title of "Promoter " of the Sammelan apparently owing to his close proximity to the Chief Minister candidly admitted that unlike other Sammelans this one did not have a ready blue print to rely on and hence there had been many slips and deviation in the schedule Indeed so much for the paucity of time running out that one veteran educationist and panelist on Education Manguesh Korgaonkar had to candidly admit "there was never an ocassion in his lifetime where he had to make a presentation on education at such a short duration of two minutes". There were other issues that surprised delegates like Atul Kamat aged 72 years from Sirsi,"why Ponda should earn the distinction of hosting the first Sammelan of this kind? he enquired of this writer " this Central Taluka in the New Conquests came under Portuguese rule only in 1763 "when the chunk of the Goans who migrated outside Goa within India, were mainly from the coastal Talukas or the Old Conquests under Portuguese rule from 1510 upto 1961". Notwithstanding the official version that Ponda was being promoted as the "Convention Centre" for the future, this writer observed from the Register maintained for those coming from "outside Goa" at the venue that most of the delegates were from Jogeshwar, Thane,Girgaum, Andheri,Vile Parle all settled in amchi Mumbaiand their roots belonged to Priol, Savoi Verem, Mangueshi Ponda . They were members of some of the over 16 Organisations in Mumbai viz; Gomant Seva Sangh and the Goan Hindu Association. There was also the President of the "Goenkarocho Ekvott" Ms. Suman Kurade whose association has become vibrant the advent of the BJP regime in Goa since October 2000 Goan Association in New Delhi.Hence the venue was close to their roots. There were others from Mangalore, Uttar Kanara Belgaum and Trichur in Kerala. One participant Ms. Leela Singbal from Juhu pointed out to a mistake on the official placard reading as Rajiv meaning "Lotus" while the Hall was actually christened as Rajiv Gandhi Kala Mandir in memory of the late Indian Prime Minister. "Could this be a political twist to suit the current dispensation in power in the State?" asked Ms. Singbal with a mischievous wink. There was no doubt that the BJP Government had made the deliberate ommission and what is ridiculous is that the local Press did not condemn this stunt by the Government. Sadly there were no signs of the Catholic Community Goans from the from the Old Conquests. The Goans who have registered their indelible mark on the rest of India. Those that migrated to Mumbai, Nasik, Nagpur, Belgaum,Kolkatta ,Bassein , Pune,Vasai, Bhopal Madurai,Cochin etc. The several who worked for the adminstration under British India rule or in the Nawab Palaces or Defence establishment. The Goans who worked in the Andaman & Nicobar Island or Patna Jamshedpur, Jaipur, Baroda, Karwar, Mangalore Ahmedabad. Among those felicited with Gomant Bharati Awards were General Sunith Rodrigues ex Chief of Army , Fr. John Correa Afonso, Mr. Jaiwant E . Talulikar, ex MD of TELCO, Mr. Antonio Prabhu Gonsalves , music composer, Dr. Ajit Kerkar, ex-Managing Director of Indian Hotels Company Limited , Mr Damu Kenkre, ex-Director of Cultural Affairs Govt of Maharashtra and Mario Miranda cartoonist in absentia. Infact many of the participants were dismayed by the organisors of the functions. It was not clear who was running the show as things started drifting. The function commenced an hour late and the official excuse was that the Chief Minister had not arrived. This has been the common alibi ever since the BJP Government came to power, giving the impression that the CM runs the adminstration alone while other Ministers are ---you guessed what. What was extremely riduculous was that while the function should have actually tried to ascertain the views of the several Goan delegates who had moved outside Goa by "compulsion or choice to better their educational economic or social advancement", or to ascertain their views on what they thought of Goa after 41 years of Liberation or 16 years after attaining Statehood and whether they would like to come back to their roots given the conducive opportunities for the same and if in the afirmative what assitance they would require from the Goa government in this regard..
[Goanet] 01 JUNE 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS June 01, 2003 KONKANI IS CORE OF GOAN IDENTITY: MEET: The Gomant Bharati Sammelan, a convention of Goan diaspora in the country, made it clear that that Konkani is the core of the Goan identity. Vinayak Khedekar, former secretary, Kala Academy, and a known staunch Maharastrawadi addressed the gathering during the cultural session on Saturday evening, in Konkani. Damu Kenkre, founder member secretary and director of Kala Academy, however, disagreed, and pointed out that culture is never static and that leading Goan artist Mukibai Kaldekar to Kesarbai Kerkar to Gaitonde (painter) to Remo, all had developed on the Goan groups and assimilated the culture of other places without forgetting their roots. GKA chief Pundalik Naik who chaired the session on culture and noted Konkani poet Manoharrai Sardesai also reiterated that Goan identity was rooted in the Konkani language. George Menezes and Dinar Tarcar were the moderators for the question answer session. The chief minister was participating in a question-answer session. Prominent among those present were Cortalim MLA (UGDP), Mathany Saldanha and former chief minister, Shashikala Kakodkar. The sammelan was co-ordinated by Pramod Shetye, Anil Tendulkar and Dinar Tarcar among others. Chief Secretary Dev Singh Negi inaugurated the Sammelan in the presence of General (retired) Sunit Rodrigues, Sammelan convenor Dinar Bhatkar, Chandrakant Keni and Jagdish Wagh. NRI Cell chairman Chandrakant Keni welcomed the gathering, while Sammelan convenor Dinar Bhatkar later proposed the vote of thanks. (H) RESOURCES FOR NRGS: CM Manohar Parrikar yesterday stated that the government intents to utilise the resources for non-resident Goans (NRGs) in the overall development of the State and put the wheels of economy on the right tracks. For this he banked on human resources of the Goan diaspora scattered in the country, he added, at the Rajiv Kala Mandir, Ponda, yesterday. (WE-GT) NON-RESIDENT GOANS URGE BJP GOVT TO IMPROVE TOURISM: The non-resident Goans, who participated in the day-long Gomant Bharati Sammelan held at Ponda, have called for good governance, strong tourism, augmented industry and improvement in education and health care in the state General Sunith Rodrigues termed the event as historic as it was a dream-come-dream event. He said that it was important that the people of the common origin had come together to exchange their views on vital topics. Education, industry and tourism in Goa were discussed in various sessions of the conference with various intellectuals calling for improvement in the same. (http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=060127) SELAULIM BOTANICAL PARK: The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar has said that services of five major corporations such as Goa Tourism Development Corporation (GTDC), Economic Development Corporation (EDC), GFDC, Industrial Development Corporation (IDC) and KVIC will be effectively utilised to achieve all-round development of the state. He was speaking as the chief guest after laying the foundation stone for the proposed Rs 15.47 crore botanical garden-cum-eco recreational park at the Salaulim Dam site on the occasion of Goa Statehood Day . (http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=060123) CLOSURE OF CHANDEL WATER PROJECT: The Pernem MLA and Congress Legislature Party (CLP) spokesperson, Mr Jeetendra Deshprabhu said that Pernem taluka has found itself in a major crisis because of limited or no drinking water supply, due to the forced closure of Chandel Water Works since the morning of May 31. "The treatment plant at Chandel Water Works could not be operated as no water from Kal or Kalna river, which is drawn to support the entire need of water of the Pernem taluka, was available," he added. The present capacity of the plant is 15 MLD. (NT) 'TRADING OF MOTHERLAND' SHOULD STOP, SAYS KENI: The senior journalist and noted writer, Mr Chandrakant Keni, said that environmental pollution, unlimited tourism and non-Goans settling in Goa in large numbers are the major problems, which the state would be facing in the near future. Mr Keni who was presenting his views during a debate on the topic Goem Rajyachi Bhashik ani Rajaki Bunyad, the linguistic and political foundation of Goa state, organised by Konkan Times in the city, further observed, "the foundation of Goa's statehood is based on the Konkani language and any harm to it would do irreversible damage to the state." (NT) WOES OF KERAL'S KUDUMBI COMMUNITY: The conclave of illustrious Goans at the Gomant Bharati Sammelan (GBS) was also attended by a few little known exceptions. The members of Kudumbi community who had migrated from Goa to Kerala fearing religious prosecution were today the odd ones out. Clad in lungis and shirts as compared to the well-dressed sons of soil the group led by practising lawyer, Mr O S Ramakrishnan, nurtured high hope
[Goanet] HOLY FAMILY CHOIR ORGANIZED LITANY IN KUWAIT.
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 07:16:06 -0700 (PDT), "www.goa-world.com -Goa's Pride" wrote: HOLY FAMILY CHOIR ORGANIZED LITANY IN KUWAIT. Kyrie eleison. Kyrie eleison. Christe eleison. Christe eleison. Kyrie eleison. Kyrie eleison.. On Saturday, 31st May 2003, being "The Visitation of the Blessed Virgin Mary" there was a procession from the Church to the Grotto of our Lady of Lourdes after the 6:30 p.m. mass. As the procession reached the Grotto, the Holy Rosary and Litany (in Latin) organized by Holy Family Choir, commenced. This Holy Rosary & Litany was organized in reverence to the devotion of Mother Mary. The Holy Rosary was in English & Litany in Latin. The Bishop of Kuwait, His Lordship Francis Micallef started the proceedings and then gave his blessings in the final prayer. His Lordship needs to be applauded for his overwhelming support in organizing such a great event. Lets Pray to God to give His Lordship good health and a long life so that such events on a larger scale will be organized in the near future. Chants of the litany echoed in the Church compound. Christe, audi nos. Christe, exaudi nos. Pater de caelis Deus, miserere nobis. Fili redemptor mundi Deus, miserere nobis. Spiritus Sancte Deus, miserere nobis. Sancta Trinitas unus Deus, miserere nobis. Rarely we see such a multitude of devotees attending and participating in the Holy Rosary & Litany. Being a working day, the devotees had put in an extra effort and sacrifice to join in the Ladainha. The major credit for organizing such a wonderful and nostalgic event surely goes to the entire Holy Family Choir members, headed by Mario Fernandes, who arranged the hymns and the litany musically well. The recitation of the Holy Rosary was done by Ms. Janet Franco Fernandes along with the beautiful PowerPoint presentation (first time ever for such a occasion) by Ms. Gina Pontis which enabled the entire congregation to join in Praying and Singing praises to Our Lady. As the Litany progressed, echoes of the timeless verses, going thus: Sancta Maria, ora pro nobis. Sancta Dei Genitrix, ora pro nobis. Sancta Virgo virginum, ora pro nobis. Mater Christi, ora pro nobis. Mater divinae gratiae, ora pro nobis. Mater purissima, ora pro nobis. The musical part was very well played by Francis Almeida (Shahu) on the Keyboards, Mario Fernandes on the Semi-Acoustic Guitar and Maestro Francis Marchado on the Violin, who displayed his exorbitant talent in playing the Litany to the delight of the devotees: Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi: Parce nobis, Domine. Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi: Exaudi nos, Domine. Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi: Miserere nobis. The participation of the entire gathering of the faithful that rendered their voices in unison - singing the hymns and the Litany added significance to the whole solemn scenario: Ora pro nobis, sancta Dei Genetrix, Ut digni efficiamur promissionibus Christi. Oremus. And with this the Latiny ended with everyone seemingly pleased with their rendition. Keeping up with true traditional values back home in Goa, Boiled Grams (Ukkodlole Chonnem) - specially packed in plastic zipper bags - along with juice packets (courtesy: Holy Family Choir) were distributed to all. By being a part of such religious activities, the Holy Family Choir is trying their level best to spread joy and happiness and in a way unite the people for the betterment of society and our community. Pray for us, Most Holy Mother of God, That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ. - Links: http://www.catholic-church.org/kuwait/ http://www.goa-world.com/Ladainha/...for the Latin hymns and translations. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] PWD Tenders
The following tender notice has appeared in NT dtd. May 22, 2003 (Page 6) PWD Ponda Desilting of Assonora River from Water Treatment Plant to Assonora Bandhara Estimated cost of tender =Rs. 8,15,281.00 Last date for receipt of applications 26/5/03 Date of opening tenders 28/5/03 The Following tender has appeared in Herald dtd. May 23, 2003 (Page 5) PWD St. Inez, Panaji. Desilting of Nallah at Se Old Goa - Shifting of C.I. conveying mains Estimated cost of tender Rs.1,66,124.00 Date of receipt of tenders/Date of opening tenders 29/5/03 Note the salient features of these tenders: 1. Both timed for the end of May. 2. Last year monsoons started in mid May. 3. How effectively the PWD liaises with the meteorological dept. is a question to ponder. 4. Desilting the Nallah at Se would probably be OK. 5. Desilting of the Assonora River at this time of the year is not Ok for it takes 8+ lacs of rupees. 6. If it rains for a couple of days (even a freak storm) the desilting process will have to be abandoned. 7. That means 8 + lacs down the drain. 8. Should the PWD wait until end of May to pass such tenders? 9. Is it a money making racket or real genuine execution of work. 10. Executive Eng. Ponda not available for confirmation (on Phone) 11.When was the Assonora River effectively desilted? 12. And we hear the excuse that there is water shortage come summer each year. 13. We shall be monitoring this Assonora river desilting operations with interest. Floriano Lobo goasuraj ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Konkani is core of Goan identity
Konkani is core of Goan identity: PANJIM, MAY 31 - BY HERALD REPORTER The Gomant Bharati Sammelan, a convention of Goan diaspora in the country, made it clear that that Konkani is the core of the Goan identity. Vinayak Khedekar, former secretary, Kala Academy, and a known staunch Maharastrawadi addressed the gathering during the cultural session on Saturday evening, in Konkani. Even as he said that culture was distinct from religion, he sought to to condemn the false depiction of Goan culture as carnival-centered. He pointed out that the prize-winning carnival float the Republic Day parade indicated that there was a great appreciation for the true Goan culture. Damu Kenkre, founder member secretary and director of Kala Academy, however, disagreed, and pointed out that culture is never static and that leading Goan artist Mukibai Kaldekar to Kesarbai Kerkar to Gaitonde (painter) to Remo, all had developed on the Goan groups and assimilated the culture of other places without forgetting their roots. GKA chief Pundalik Naik who chaired the session on culture and noted Konkani poet Manoharrai Sardesai also reiterated that Goan identity was rooted in the Konkani language. Naik went to the extent of suggesting that attempt should be made by the department of culture to spread the Konkani language and culture in other parts of the country which have large Konkani population. The Chief Minister, Manohar Parrikar who started off by saying that he would speak in Konkani, also made a speech in English which he said was for the benefit of the Chief Secretary, Negi. George Menezes and Dinar Tarcar were the moderators for the question answer session. The chief minister was participating in a question-answer session. The chief minister when asked about his government practice of giving equal grants to Konkani and Marathi, he said, this was because the Konkani Academy has not come out with an appropriate scheme and programme. He said it was also because Marathi enjoyed equal status. The chief minister said that he would be willing to give even Rs 50-60 lakh to Konkani academy if they came up with appropriate proposals. George Menezes suggested that the department of culture should open centres in other regions to familiarise the people of the native states with Konkani language and culture. Interestingly, though the Sammelan was held in Ponda, none of the local politicians from Ponda taluka were present for the session on culture. Prominent among those present were Cortalim MLA (UGDP), Mathany Saldanha and former chief minister, Shashikala Kakodkar. Conspicuous by his absence was former chief minister and chairman of the Kala Academy Pratapsing Rane who had summarily sacked the then director Damu Kenkre unceremoniously in 1983 for not indulging his wife's Vijayadevi's demand in respect of the Indian Music Choir. The sammelan was co-ordinated by Pramod Shetye, Anil Tendulkar and Dinar Tarcar among others. Ponda Correspondent adds: Earlier in the morning, Chief Secretary Dev Singh Negi inaugurated the Sammelan in the presence of General (retired) Sunit Rodrigues, Sammelan convenor Dinar Bhatkar, Chandrakant Keni and Jagdish Wagh. Addressing the delegates, Negi said India is transforming enormously and that Goa is also keeping pace with the rest of the country. He called upon the Goans residing outside the State to contribute for the development of Goa. While highlighting the increasing number of non-Goans, the chief secretary insisted that Goans need not fear their presence in the state. "This immigration cannot change the taste of Goan fish and curry," Negi said. In his address, Gen Sunit Rodrigues said political leaders must be people of character and should be prompt in the decision making process. He stated that credit for developmental work should not be taken by individual politicians, but that it should be shared with others. "This sammelan is a good example of fusion and synergy of Goans who have gone outside the State," felt Gen Rodrigues and added that this has been a historic opportunity to lift Goa to its maximum height. NRI Cell chairman Chandrakant Keni welcomed the gathering, while Sammelan convenor Dinar Bhatkar later proposed the vote of thanks. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] More on mudhouses
Edgar,
Old mudhouses were built crudely with wooden planking
as formwork for the rammed mud. Today rammed earth
houses are built using plywood forms with uniform
width and smooth texture.The walls can then be
finished with lime(neeru)coat. The width of the walls
can be just 40 cm. RCC and stone houses walls are 23
to 30 cm thick.
In Goa, we mostly hear of burglaries taking place in
modern RCC houses as compared to old stone-mud-tile
roof houses. Its easy to break into any house by
chiselling open the lock or main door or cutting
grills. It is best to secure valuables in a bank
locker or make just one room more secure than the
others by having an RCC slab or insure the house
against theft.Paranoia and obsessive worry over
material goods makes people stressed out and build a
Fort Knox instead of a simple,open house.
The white finish of the interior walls and optimun
windows for ventilation will give a well lit house.One
can build even a two storied house using only mud,
without an RCC slab or wooden flooring. The mud walls
(wider than normal mudwalls to take care of lateral
thrust) have to be extended upwards in an arch to form
the roof. Above the ground floor, the mud walls can be
taken further upwards to form the first floor dome
roof. Basically the anthill-principle.
Amazing isn't it ? The giant anthills that we often
see in the forests are actually vast multi-storied
housing complexes built only in mud. The sticky
secretions that the ants mix with the mud makes the
anthill ('rhoinn' in Konkani)hard and waterproof, thus
ensuring its survival in the harsh monsoons.The
'rhoinn' is believed to embody Santeri Devi, the Earth
goddess much beloved and worshipped in Goa.
The thought of cool, cheap housing without stone,
sand,steel and cement might give some dealers and
manufactures the jitters. Mud houses may never become
as prevalent as in ancient times, but the choice of
building a naturally cool, economical mudhouse
improved with modern technology should be available to
the common man in Goa. A rammed earth house can have
concealed electric wiring, ceramic tiles, state of the
art toilets, etc. There need not be any compromise on
these modern fittings.The best of both worlds can be
had in a mudhouse.
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[Goanet] TidBits.018 "Ora et Labora"
TidBits .018 - 'Ora et Labora' (Pray and Work- The motto of St. Xavier's High School- Moira) The following reports appeared in Herald: 1) July 22, 2002 " Bright student accuses best teacher of mental torture" 2) July 24, 2002 " Give back our teacher, cry Moira students" These two reports and the others that have appeared in The Navhind Times have been the result of the internal managerial deficiencies of the St. Xavier's High School, Moira in the handling of the teacher -student - PTA relationships. There was no reason for this foul-up , which is now threatening to spill into the Courts, if the school management had done just what it is supposed to do i.e. contain the conflict within the four walls of the school and judiciously solve the same to the satisfaction of all concerned. When I talk about the school management, I talk about the Secretary of the DSE, the manager (principal) of the school who is the parish priest of Moira church and the headmistress of the school. If one goes through the chronology of events (not included here) one will get the drift that led to this foul-up. I had sought to get the overall picture concerning this conflict, being an ex-student of this school and also by virtue of personally knowing the families of the students concerned, by meeting with the headmistress well before the foul-up. After the concerned teacher was transferred, in my telephone call to the DSE secretary I had told him that the transfer of the primary school teacher immediately following the transfer of the controversial teacher, would be viewed as victimization, specially, since the primary school teacher was the blood relation of one of the victim students. The conflict graduated into the parents of the two concerned supposedly bright students engaging legal counsel and wanting to take the fight into the courts. In the following mediatory proceedings between the Legal counsel engaged by the concerned parents, the DSE and the Education Department, the fact that has come to light is that the headmistress has been very actively seeking revenge for not having gotten her way to retain the controversial teacher and has been making it difficult for maintaining the calm in the atmosphere within the school. There are quite a few senior teachers in the school. Not all seem to toe the line of the headmistress in her support for the controversial teacher. The second news item captioned "Give Back our teacher, cry Moira students" was infact the faux pas by the headmistress to get media/public support. This becomes evident (as per the newspaper report) that the student of 8, 9 &10 standards were involved in the protest. This is highly improbable since the controversial teacher was the undergraduate teacher and her teaching jurisdiction was upto standard 7. Infact, no such protest was seen coming forth when the primary teacher was transferred on a 24 hour notice period. I am given to understand that DSE has a rule that any teacher who is an ex-student of the school and is a villager, gets consideration over the other non complying teaching staff as far as transfers are concerned. Also, that such transfers, if necessary, require a notice period of minimum 48 hours.The 24 hour notice period here becomes relevant when the recipient school where the primary teacher was transferred to, had not filled this vacancy for more than 4 months, even after the schools had started in June, 2002. Besides, there was a surplus teacher available at St. Xavier's High School who was from Aldona and who could have been transferred to 'Khorjuem ' in Aldona, just as well. Inspite of threats that the concerned two boys will not pass in the final examinations (9th), both have done exceedingly well. The parents of the two boys are however complaining that the adding up of the marks and arriving at the respective percentages is deliberately flawed to bring down their relevant percentages, a matter that is likely to be taken up to the Education Department. The sad part is that a very senior Maths teacher who has completed 27 years in this school and who is in-charge of the school faculty and who has only a few years to retire is being transferred to far away Curtorim (Salcete). This lady teacher is a permanent resident of Bardez of as many years as is her service in this school. The pretext for the transfer is that her permanent address is given as Salcete. No consideration has been given to the basis that she has no permanent roots in Salcete any longer. Further, in May 2002, this same teacher was short listed by the DSE for the post of the headmistress of a school in Betalbatim which she had declined, due to the school's distant location. Therefore, this transfer order to Curtorim smacks more of victimization than a normal routine transfer. The concerned teacher is believed to have prayed for a stay on this transfer with the Education Department. The Asst. Dir. Of Education has confirmed that such
[Goanet] On This Day In History... 01 Jun 2003
Today is Sunday, June 1, the 152nd day of 2003 with 213 to follow. On this day, June 1, in history: 1533 - Anna Boleyn crowned queen of England 1568 - Duke of Alba beheads 18 nobles in Brussels 1774 - Boston Port Bill: British government orders Port of Boston closed 1779 - Benedict Arnold is court-martialed 1783 - Last British troops sail from New York 1812 - Madison gave the call to Congress to declare war on Great Britain. 1855 - US adventurer Wm Walker conquers Nicaragua, reestablishes slavery 1861 - 1st skirmish in Civil War, Fairfax Court House, Va 1861 - US & Confederacy simultaneously stop mail interchange 1862 - General Robert E. Lee appointed commander of the Army of Northern Virginia after Joe Johnston is injured at 7 Pines 1862 - Slavery abolished in all US possessions 1869 - Voting machine patented (Thomas A Edison) 1880 - The first pay telephone service began on June 1, 1880, in New Haven, Connecticut. 1888 - California gets its 1st seismograph 1890 - Counting machines used in census the machines where produced by the Tabulating Machine Company which through a series of mergers and reorganizations, the company eventually became IBM. 1915 - 1st Zeppelin air raid over England 1938 - Protective baseball helmets were worn by batters for the very first time. The helmets were pressed into use in a game between the Springfield Greys and the House of David in New York City. 1943 - A civilian flight from Lisbon to London was shot down by the Germans during World War II, killing all aboard, including actor Leslie Howard. 1944 - The government of Mexico decided to abolish the siesta. Now there's a decision that really caught on... 1947 - Photosensitive glass developed 1958 - Charles de Gaulle became premier of France, reassumes French Leadership 1961 - FM multiplex stereo broadcasting 1st heard 1976 - Great-Britain & Iceland terminate codfish war 1977 - The Soviet Union formally charged Jewish human rights activist Anatoly Shcharansky with treason. (Shcharansky was imprisoned, then released in 1986.) 1980 - 1st transmission of CNN, Cable News Network 1990 - At a superpowers summit meeting in Washington, D.C., U.S. President George Bush and Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev signed a historic agreement to cease production of chemical weapons and to begin destruction of both nations' sizable reserves. 1991 - The United States and the Soviet Union resolved differences over the Conventional Forces in Europe treaty, clearing the way for a superpower summit. 1991 - NASA scrubbed the launch of the space shuttle Columbia after a navigational unit failed. 1996 - An estimated 200,000 participants, most of them schoolchildren, gathered at the Lincoln Memorial to protest government cuts for social and educational programs. 2000 - With about half an hour to spare, Texas Gov. George W. Bush blocked the scheduled execution of convicted killer Ricky McGinn so that possibly exculpatory DNA evidence could be reviewed. (The DNA tests failed to establish McGinn's innocence, and he was put to death by injection the following September.) GOA 2002 - Former advisor to Governor, Albano Couto, released a book "The Heritage of Govapuri" written by Fr Cosme Costa, sfx, at the Pilar Seminary. === Let's compile a chronicle of Goan History. If you have an authentic date and event in Goan History, please e-mail the details to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] Would a helmet have helped?
Dear Time, Maybe you should wear a helmet in bed -- far more people die in bed than from the consequences of two-wheeler accidents -- Sleep well with a helmet on Aloysius D'Souza - Original Message - From: Tim de Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 1:10 PM Subject: [Goanet] Would a helmet have helped? > BID TO RETRIEVE POT COSTS LIFE: An attempt to retrieve a pot from the well > proved costly, when a 38-year-old man from Shetye waddo in Duler drowned in > the well on Friday. Mapusa police said Mario S Colaco, a native of Verna, > descended into the nearby well at about 9.45 am, in order to retrieve a pot > which had fallen in the well a few days earlier. Colaco removed the pot and > was coming up without the assistance of a rope, when he slipped and fell > into the well. Those present above then lowered a rope to aid Colaco's climb > and as Colaco was climbing up, he slipped for the second time and drowned in > the well. (H) > > == > > I wonder if a helmet would have helped dear Mr. Colaco? RIP. > > > And, Oh! Yes! > > VIVA GOA!!! > > Tim de Mello > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Goa, INDIA > > _ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > ## > # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # > # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # > # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # > ## > Quick Heal Version : 6.09 Virus Database : 28-05-2003 This mail is certified VIRUS FREE by Quick Heal. For more information visit: http://www.quickheal.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] RE: Goa's Pride
Re: Konkani Anthology The compilation of the Konkani words and idioms is Great Work. It is easy to use and fun at the same time. Congratulations to you, the author of the book Lynn Souza-Marquis and the Goa-World web-page for presenting the material. Every Goan should have this collection. A much needed project has been accomplished. Keep up the good work. This is indeed Goa's Pride. Now it is an opportunity for Presidents of various G.O.A. and Goan village and school alumni groups to bring this cultural anthology to its members at Goan social and cultural events. A definitely better substitute than Scotch. Regards, Gilbert. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Re: On This Day In History... 29 May 2003
Edgar wrote: >I would appreciate goan proverbs in Konkani >as they sound so poetic and full of wisdom. > > I like the one in Konkani 'Suneachi shempdi soddanch vandkri' which > means a dogs tail will never be straightened. Goan women of days gone by were > full of beautiful ideas. They thought deep and were poetic. > Edgar Martins Agree with you on this point Edgar. Does anyone know if there is a book/site on Konkani Oparieo? Let me share some too.."Fest Korta gaum, ani Presdentichem naum' and "Aplem ghor, Sothean mor". Appreciate to hear more of them from fellow goanetters. Eddie Verdes Saudi Arabia ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Goa Pics 2
Just thought I would share some more pics with you. Go to: http://photos.yahoo.com/timdemello3 and the album is GoaPics 2 As most you you surely know by now, Anjuna is one of the most beautiful places on earth. I have tried to capture some of its beauty for you. I am sure you will agree with me. For my friends: Aum khorem sangta: Ekdam tuvem sobit Anjuncho ganv ani sobit Anjuncho lokak poilear tuka sorg polleunchi goroz na. (I am telling you truthfully: Once you have seen the beauty of Anjuna and its people, you needn't see heaven) VIVA GOA!!! Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goa, INDIA _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Re: Application for a Driving Licence in Goa
In a message dated 5/31/03 7:06:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, EdgarStmartins writes: << << STATE of GOA DRIVING LICENSE APPLIKASON PHARM gt; NOTE: 1. If you dont know the answers, please copy from another applikason phorom and submit. For further instructions, see bottom applikason. 2. Please do not shoot the person at the applikason kounter. He will give you the lisence immediately. Last name:; (_) Fernandes ; (_) Rebello (_) Dias ; (_) Menezes (_) do not know First name: (_) Agnelo (_) Leo (_) Gabriel (_) Eddie (_) Dont know (Check appropriate box) Age: (_) Less than zero (_) Zero (_) Greater than zero (_) Don't know Sex: M _ F _ not sure _ not applicable Chappal Size: Left Right Occupation: (_) Politician (_) Botler (_) Paovalla (_) Kharvi (_) Un-employed Number of children living in household: ___ Number that are yours: ___ Mother\'s Name: ___ Father\'s Name: ___ (If not sure, leave blank) ; Ejjucason: 1 2 3 4 (Circle highest grade completed) Do you bathe? (_) Yes (_) No Not applicable If yes, how often do you bathe? (_) Weekly (_) Monthly (_) Yearly Color of teeth: (_) Yellow (_) Brownish-Yellow (_) Brown (_) Black (_) Others - Give exact color (call nearest Asian Paints dealer if U dont know the color of your teeth) How far is your home from a paved road? (_)1 mile (_)2 miles (_)don't know Your thumb imparesson If you are copying from another applikason pharom, please do not copy thumb impression also. Please provide your own thumb impression. · PLEASE DO NOT USE FINGERS OF YOUR LEGS. · Use thumb on your left hand only. If you dont have left hand, use your thumb on right hand. If you do not have right hand, use thumb on left hand. NOTE : IF YOU DONT HAVE BOTH HANDS, YOU CANNOT DRIVE __ Go to Punjab and you can be sure of getting a licence. Form printed by Govt. Press, Delhi >> >> ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] RE: For your Sunday Laughing Pleasure
Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Amcho Forsu seeing his brother shouts - aree Saiba, > aree Saiba ... rao > ree, rao ree, wait, wait, wait. Please, do not > flush; Please, do not flush! Regards, GL Nice posting, GL. > To the Canadians who have written that this laughing > is keeping them healthy, please send your OHIP > (health insurance) card.=:)). Gilbert, we know how much the barbarians on our southern border envy our OHIP cards. Sorry, we are going them. However, I may send you some of that other beloved Canadian treasure i.e. Canadian Tyre money. The way things are going, it soon will be worth more than your local currency :-) > Talking of the Canadians, when is the G.O.A. in > Toronto having their World Goa Day celebrations? G.O.A. in Toronto has a Viva Goa festival every year around the same time as World Goa Day. I think its just a matter of convincing the current officials to incorporate the World celebrations into their local festival. After all, they get appox 5,000 people attending the one day celebration in Toronto each year. Mervyn __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] Art College Incident not the first case!
In a message dated 5/31/03 8:44:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The rule applied in Goa is this, like in Iraq and with Sadaam's sons is: If politicians are involved in any fiasco as happened just a year ago, nothing is heard of the matter and these scandals are placed on the back burner. Sadaam's Son Uday has killed his father's Christian bodyguard and nothing happened. Goa on the surface is a tourist paradise and tranquil (it has to be so or else tourists will not come) but underneath it is a veritable inferno, a hornets nest. It is one thing to learn about a scandal and it is another when the matter is persued. How about the cricket scam when Narvekar and Phadke were involverd. I spoke with Phadke recently and he said that nothing will be done. We never hear of this matter. Edgar Martins << Way back in the early seventies, it was alleged that a group of Dhempe College hostelites gang raped a sex worker and left her for dead very close to the memorial of Bhausaheb Bandodkar. I am not to sure if the culprits were ever brought to book. Colaco >> ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Rape and repercussions.
I don't mean to be controversial and stir up an issue which has everybody in Goa and beyond upset and angry. First and foremost, it should be noted that the alleged victim did not report the incident immediately. This only makes it more difficult for the authorities as far as taking DNA evidence is concerned. One should also be mindful that the accused youth are also someone's sons. As the law stands they should be afforded proper justice not just convicted without proper evidence. It is difficult for me and I am sure for many, to equate the alleged rape with the findings of the medical committee. Why is the committee erring on the side of inconclusive evidence. My reading would be that there is no evidence and they are afraid to say so given the feelings of the broad community in Goa. I ask as well why is the Government getting involved in the judicial process, the C.M. has no right to put pressure on the Courts to convict the youths if there is no evidence. The C.M. should not pander to the crowd just to gain kudos. There are the Courts and they should be allowed to do their job unhindered. Also the Police should not bring the case to Court unless they have strong evidence to bring to bear against the youth concerned. Could it just be that it was Eve teasing which I understand goes on a lot in India ( I am not condoning this) that occurred and the girl just broke down mentally. Could some one also tell me the difference between the alleged rape committed by three Goan youth working for a cruise ship and in which the G.O.A (U.K.) has gotten involved with and the alleged rape committed in Goa? We are asked to support the youth here in England and you are ready to string the youth up in Goa. Sincerely, Gabriel V Menezes ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Ek Kovita: Xantichea Parveakui Daukulam Astat
Ek niall kovita rupan 'Xantichea Parveakui Daukulam Astat' Ontoskornachi chavi sandlea? Ollxig rebddant poddchea adim kadd soddun Nid'dukaichi zhor funtlea? Zhotnai ge! Boro sobav vochot vahun. Kombeak panttle ponddak lipoilo Dis uzvaddcho aslo to udelo Udok nastana chullir buddkulo dovorlo Nalileant funktana ujeacho agtto angar boslo. Sunknni rukhar bosun gitam gaitana Sobit pod* aikun xezari sontostalo Eklo dhados tor dusro mellsanichem vik vonktana Savlli ditolea rukhak dusman katrunk chintalo Jivitachea chicklant loutele zonvarak Nitoll baimchem udok nanoun faido na Oxir nodren polletolo dolle aslelea kudddeak Jigjigtolem bangar, lokond mhonnpak lozui disona. Dukh laglolo sorop sudd* getach Thoddeank khavpache ani dakhoupache dant veglle astat Nodichim sogllim tonddam somdirak melltach Ugddas dor! Xantichea parveakui daukulam astat. Lino B. Dourado (Utodddekar-Q8)Pod = tune Sudd = revenge = http://www.goa-world.net/poems http://www.goa-world.net/poems/lino __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] On This Day In History...
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 7:04 AM I would appreciate goan proverbs in Konkani as they sound so poetic and full of wisdom. > Edgar Martins Something like this, Edgar? : Kens (hair, singular) kadd ani ambear (mangotree) mar; Poddlear ambo (fruit) podd'llo; Gelear, kens ghelo. P.S:To avoid profanity and see this post through, I've replaced one the nouns above. The original, mind you, bears ethnic flavour! Rgds/Valmiki ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] kingfisher holiday home
hi joel please can you tell me if kingfisher holiday home is finished in candolim seqium beach next to don hill hotel we stayed in don hill hotel 2003 lots of building work next to hotel we would like to know if holiday home is conpleated from anne _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
