[Goanet]Re: Goan entrepreneurship

2003-09-17 Thread JL Carvalho
Hello to all,

My name is Jay Carvalho, I have been a member of this list for a long time
now - a few years in fact.  When Goacom first came online i noticed it.
Over the last little while I have been personally thinking of going back to
GOA to deal in teaching students there about Entrepreneurship.
Funny that George wrote this email.  I am 24, I live in Victoria, B.C
Canada.  I currently run two not-for profit organizations. One is called The
Greater Victoria Entrepreneurs Challenge www.gvec.ca  the second, recently
started is www.secvictoria.com or the Social Entrepreneurship Challenge.  I
run two businesses and work as Business Development officer for a major
company here in Victoria.  I am quite involved in the community and the
local schools and all three universities on the island.  My challenges give
away money (10,000+) to young start-ups.  I am currently finishing a BCOm in
admin and management and a degree in psycholgoy from the University of
Victoria.   My parents are originally from GOA and i have been back many
times - the last time however was sometime ago.  I was thinking of going to
Banglore to talk with some of the major companies that are starting to be
recognized here in the West, however I would love to start bringing together
goans and Entrepreneurship.

George - I would love to work with you on this - and what i mean by this is
actually starting up a site for goan entrepreneurship and I would like to do
this as soon as possible.  Are there any goan business individuals on this
network that could contribute their time and sponsorship for a website
strictly devoted to this?
My phone number in Victoria (mobile number ) is 1 250 418 0706 and would
love to talk to anyone very much interested in this venture. George - if you
yourself would like to chat I wouldn't mind touching base on this front. I
have family in Montreal and Toronto that I could pitch this too.

Funny enough last month i did a bit of research on Indians in
Entrepreneurship and there are a few major ones during the DOT.COM days that
did very well and are well established in Silicon Valley.  I am very well
skilled in setting up organizations and raising money.  My current project
has a student doing her master's thesis on it and support for it is growing
and growing. www.gvec.ca has been around for three years and i recently
landed IBM among others on board for the infrastructure backup support.

It's funny how this has come up and believe it's time to seize the day on
this as I have been thinking about if for a while now.

www.goaentrepreneurship.com or www.goanentrepreneurship.com could be
purchased and I have a company of my own in Vancouver, B.C that could build
a very professional site and we could stream line goans towards it .

I really believe in this and I believe I am at a level now where
international work is something that I would like to take on and building an
international network for Goan Entrepreneurs would be a great start.

George if we could be in direct contact that would be great. I imagine you
have much on your plate but would love to touch base about this and see how
we use goacom.com to really focus in on making this a reality.

For all those out there you can contact me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


There is much to do on this front and any support and reply would be
fantastic.   Please label all incoming email accordingly  ie. Goan
Entrepreneurship Venture

I look forward to hearing from those interested,



J.L Carvalho

www.gvec.ca Co-Founder and Vice President [EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.secvictoria.com Co-Founder and Chair

www.igeninc.com Partner
Vancouver, B.C

- Original Message -
From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:43 PM
Subject: Goan entrepreneurship


 There is a need for greater Goan entrepreneurship (going into business for
oneself), to be able to
 control one's financial destiny and by extension, our life's goals and not
be subject to the
 machinations of the job market, corporate  political worlds.  Economic
independence can lead to
 greater freedom (this is pithe statement but is true nonetheless).

 I am forwarding a website below which provides a straightforward business
plan.  Any new venture
 (or even an existing one) ought to take stock in some similar (though not
exact) manner.  So
 whether one is starting a weekly newspaper or political party or cyber
discussion group, it is
 important to think through the various issues using such a plan.

 Often I receive ideas on a number of fronts for various plans which are
terribly weak because
 people have not thought through all the issues.  I hope Goan
entrepreneurship will grow and
 flourish - being one's own boss, setting the agenda in an ethical manner,
and finally enjoying the
 fruits of one's labors.

 Regards,
 George


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Re: [Goanet]Miguel Dave...and 'charter thrash'

2003-09-17 Thread Auspicio F.M.Rodrigues
Well,I think many of will agree with you Cecil  !
There is no point in getting into a mess over which GOAN,has contributed
more for GOA!
We as a people are certainly called to contribute our mite to our soil and
each of us contributes as best we can.
We owe it to our soil!
OnThe Internet!
Auspicio F.M. Rodrigues

- Original Message -
From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:15 PM
Subject: [Goanet]Miguel  Dave...and 'charter thrash'


 Eddie Fernandes wrote...

 
 It is Fred who is pushing the discussion off track. Can he let us know if
 he feels that Miguel is justified in asking David Futers not to visit Goa
 every year.
 Yes or No or even a Maybe?
 Cheers,
 -


 My take

 1) Miguel, if he did indeed ask David Futers not to visit Goa every year,
 is NOT justified in doing so. Nor in questioning Dave's or Marlon's
 contributions to Goa. He should have checked first. Both Dave's and
 Marlon's contributions to Goa are well recorded and appreciated.

 BUT ALSO..

 2) Marlon has no right to compare the relative contributions of Dave and
 Miguel to Goa and Goans.

 How can you compare one individual's contributions against another's,
 specially when you don't even know much about one of the individuals?

 Has Fred contributed more to Goa than Rajan Narayan?
 Has Marlon contributed more to Goa than Herman?
 Has Dr. Santosh Helekar done more for Goa than Uday Bhembre?

 These are stupid questions. We cannot compare.

 Also Marlon said to Miguel  ..more for Goa than you ever have or ever
will.

 How can Marlon prophesize (?) what more Miguel will do for Goa?



 3) Maybe Fred is indeed pushing the discussion off track. Maybe it
deserves
 to be taken off track before it becomes about personalities rather than
issues.

 I believe that the average guy on the street here is not bothered about
 'charter tourists' in general. It is the 'charter thrash' which is
 offensive. There are thousands of people who come in by the charters who
 are most welcome. The expat Goans who just use the flight facilities
 because they are cheaper. The wonderful people like Dave who give their
 time, talents and money for improving the lot of Goans. The researchers,
 cultural historians, nature lovers, birdwatchers, artists, business
people,
 musicians And even the plain beachlovers, beer swillers, sunbathers
and
 lazers around swimming pools. All these are most welcome. As long as they
 behave decently.

 But there are the others who I refer to as 'charter thrash'. They are
slobs
 from the bottom of the barrel of British society. They are ill mannered
 rude and miserly. They spend precious zilch and bargain all the while.
 Their behaviour is atrocious and they seem to think that their skin colour
 and currency advantage makes them superior beings.

 They complain about everything. But yet they come back every year NOT
 because of any great love for Goa and Goans but only because they get the
 best value for their pounds here. And a little respect, which they would
 never have got in UK being the scum they are.

 When the next big 'cheap' tourist destination opens up this 'charter
 thrash' will be there in a jiffy without a second thought to Goa.

 Then the cheap hoteliers will regret for having even entertained and
 pandered to them for short term and fragile benefits.


 4) Some time back Eddie, you had raised a very valid point about what type
 of tourists Goa really wants. We don't seem to want back-packers, nor 5
 Star clientele, nor charter thrash, nor domestic tourists nor Very
true.

 A more productive debate would be if we could discuss this issue.
 What type of tourists does Goa need? And why?

 While discussing this the tourism industry also has to be involved in the
 debate but with caution. Most of them have VERY short term interests.

 Take for example the River Princess in Candolim. Two years back the very
 same hoteliers in the vicinity who were being effected by this eyesore
made
 great efforts to convey to the International community that there was no
 danger absolutely in the ship being there. Why? Because they are blinkered
 and cannot see beyond the current 'season'.

 We need a discussion among people who can see further than that. And who
 have the benefits of the entire Goa in mind and not just the current
 tourist areas.

 Cheers!

 Cecil
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[Goanet]Goan entrepreneurship

2003-09-17 Thread George Pinto
There is a need for greater Goan entrepreneurship (going into business for oneself), 
to be able to
control one's financial destiny and by extension, our life's goals and not be subject 
to the
machinations of the job market, corporate  political worlds.  Economic independence 
can lead to
greater freedom (this is pithe statement but is true nonetheless).

I am forwarding a website below which provides a straightforward business plan.  Any 
new venture
(or even an existing one) ought to take stock in some similar (though not exact) 
manner.  So
whether one is starting a weekly newspaper or political party or cyber discussion 
group, it is
important to think through the various issues using such a plan.  

Often I receive ideas on a number of fronts for various plans which are terribly weak 
because
people have not thought through all the issues.  I hope Goan entrepreneurship will 
grow and
flourish - being one's own boss, setting the agenda in an ethical manner, and finally 
enjoying the
fruits of one's labors.

Regards,
George


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How To Format A Plan

We like business plans that present a lot of information in as few words as possible. 
The topics
that interest us most are a description of the market the company plans to attack, an 
overview of
the company's initial product and planned products, a description of distribution 
channels, a
summary of the backgrounds of the management team, a five year summary of financial 
projections,
and a capitalization table. We are very skeptical about detailed financial projections 
beyond the
first 12-18 months of a company's operations and have a jaundiced view of reams of 
financial data.

We have found that the following format provides a good overview of a prospective 
investment. It
usually works best when limited to around 15-20 slides, either in overhead foils or 
driven from a
PC.

Business 
Company's business (description short enough to fit on a business card) 
Mission statement 
Products 
Product description 
Development schedule 
Differentiation 
Price point 
Market 
Trends 
Historic and projected sizes in dollars 
Product match to market definition 
Distribution 
Sales channels 
Partnerships 
Customers 
Competition 
Competitors 
Competitive advantages 
Team 
Background of management 
Board composition 
Financials 
Historic and projected PL (first two years by quarters) 
Projected cash flow (first two years by quarters) 
Current balance sheet 
Projected head count by functional area (RD, sales, marketing, GA) 
Capitalization schedule 
Deal 
Amount raised 
Valuation asked 
Use of proceeds 

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[Goanet]Rajan Narayan and Bairo do Sao Tome- Panjim

2003-09-17 Thread Edgar D Furtado

Parrikar's government attracted compassionate-saffronised Goans to the
polls, while the Government disguised its innuendos under a veil of
virtues.  

Rajan Narayan embarassed the Congress Government in telling Goans what
they should know about their leaders and not what they need to know . 

Rajan Narayan had is office at Rua Sao Tome and one of my Paternal Homes
is on Rua Luis De Menezes, Panjim Goa.  

We both shared the same bairo do Sao Tome and we also shared the same
neighbors and our favorite Capela do Sao Tome.

Rajan Narayan is known to me from my affiliation with the owners of the
Herald.  

Casa J.D Fernandes was a highly reputed Tipogrpahia back in the old
days.

I once asked a senior partner at the Herald why is that non-Goan
Journalist flood our territory while NORMAN DANTAS and other unspoken
Goan Journalists are never allowed to cover inner circles?  

He replied its all politics.

Rajan Narayan came to Herald when Goa was being ripped apart at the seams
with the Konkani language issue.  

Herald's coverage on the language issue gave Rajan Narayn a new breadth
to exploring esoteric politicians such as Mauvin Godinho et al.

Exposing Parrikar's regime should not be a reason for Rajan Narayan to
quit.

There is more to it than we all know.  For lack of a better word we only
know what we need to know and what we should be knowing.

Was Rajan Narayan being politically incorrect


EF

Boston, MA  

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Re: [Goanet]Miguel Dave...and 'charter thrash'

2003-09-17 Thread Tim de Mello
Cecil said:

 . . . How can you compare one individual's contributions against 
another's, specially when you don't even know much about one of the 
individuals?

Has Fred contributed more to Goa than Rajan Narayan?
Has Marlon contributed more to Goa than Herman?
Has Dr. Santosh Helekar done more for Goa than Uday Bhembre?
These are stupid questions. We cannot compare.
.
.


Very true. This debate is ridiculous.
The implication is that the person who has done the most for Goa has more 
moral authority to speak out than others.

And that is simply garbage.

All who have the good of Goa in their heart and voice opinions on this forum 
need to be heard from - even if they have not yet contributed one paise 
worth towards Goa's development.

I am sure that we all mean well. So lets stop personalizing this debate and 
antogonizing our members. Just discuss the issues. Everyone's point of view 
is welcome . . . .  and valid.

Tim de Mello
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Re: [Goanet](no subject)

2003-09-17 Thread akash shah
Dear Shaikh chandsab

I like your efforts you are doing to go to canada, but unfortunetly your 
request to send you invitation is to a wrong person, i am sorry to tell you 
that i am not in canada,
best of luck.
allah hafiz







From: Shaikh Chandsab [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet](no subject)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:14:41 -0700
 Hi sir i am a   indian national my name is shaikh chandsab and i am from
goa  from Merces goa  sir i  apply for canada immigaration but unfortunate
i score only 69 Marks  actually i apply throuhg one agents after seven
Months i got a letter saying that i score only 69 so now i am looking goans
brother help at least to send me  invitation letter  from canada to come to
canada  here in doha  all goans  are telling me that in canada  all goans
are very helpful  hope you will try to help me in this matter at present i
am working in  doha qatar sir i am ready to pay your fees whateve it is ok
then  bye have a nice day  take care best regards give my regards to all
goans bye hope you will give my reply as early as possible ok bye
yours sincerely
shaikh chandsab


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Re: [Goanet]Airport Tax

2003-09-17 Thread Tim de Mello
Before anyone jumps on me for not knowing the current tax being levied let 
me explain that even though I am frequent visitor to Goa I go through Mumbai 
and return the same way.

I have not been asked to pay airport tax in Mumbai (perhaps it is included 
in  the ticket price?). I guess there is no airport tax in Goa from domestic 
flights.

Tim de Mello
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CANADA




From: Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Airport Tax
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:31:49 -0400
Sounds like a reasonable idea.
Rs. 20/- per head for people using air travel does not seem exorbitant. 
Even Rs. 50/- per head seems O.K. to me.

Why has this not been implemented?

Some airports in Canada (e.g. Vancouver) charge a lot, lot more. The money 
is used to improve/expand the airport.



Tim de Mello
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CANADA




From: R.PACHECO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet]Airport Tax
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 01:33:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
So--600 charter flights are expected!
 Why don't the Dabolim Airport Authorities  introduce an Airport tax of 
say
20 rupees per head.This should be a one time fee only.That revenue could
generate income to subsidies urgently required renovations.That Dabolim
Airport is a definitely sore sight for tourist and visitors
arriving/departing. This airport tax is not new. It is a very effective
method done all over the world.
Cheers!
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[Goanet]Semente de Aguai / Chapeu de Napoleao

2003-09-17 Thread The Thaumaturgist
Chirputtam (Physalis peruviana) is not the only 
Peruviana specie in Goa.

Thevetia peruviana is the scientific name of a 
flower that is known in English as Lucky Nut 
or Yellow Oleander or Napoleon's Hat.

There are 3 color variations: Yellow, Bright Yellow 
and Orange.

The most common variety here in Florida is the 
Orange one.

Here are my 2 photos:

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[Goanet-news]18 SEP 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2003-09-17 Thread Joel D'Souza
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
18 Sep 2003

TWO MORE PERISH ON VERNA BY-PASS: Two persons, Santosh Salelkar (44) of
Margao and Hussein Shaikh (13), died on the spot while Santosh's son,
Mangirish (13) and two others injured in road accident involving five
vehicles on the Verna by-pass on September 17. Around 1.15 pm Santosh from
Colva was driving his son for a cricket coaching camp at Panaji. En route he
gave Hussein and Rahul Bandekar (14), both students of Agnel Ashram, a lift.
After Santosh got on to the Verna bypass the car suddenly swerved and
crashed into an oncoming tanker. Following the collision the tanker driver
lost control and hit the second car driven by advocate Sandra Correia with
her husband Savio and father-in-law Philip in it. They received light
injuries. The tanker than hit a Vespa scooter and a Hero Honda motorcycle
driven by Lino Fernandes, Chandor. (GT)

CM HINTS AT FLYOVER: There is a possibility of a flyover being constructed
to ease traffic congestion at the capital's entry points, claimed Chief
Minister Manohar Parrikar, at a Panjim constituency workers meeting on
September 17. The Chief Minister hinted at the possibility, claiming that
with the International Film Festival of India being hosted in Panjim, the
problem of traffic chaos at entry-points would have to be resolved either by
building a flyover or some other means. (H)

CENTRAL'S APPROVAL SOUGHT FOR MOPA AIRPORT: The State government has sough
the Central government approval for signing the agreement with the
International Civil Aviation Organisation for a techno-feasibility report.
CM Manohar Parrikar has taken up the matter with Union Ministry for Civil
Aviation Rajiv Pratap Rudy and the approval is expected shortly. (GT)

GOVERNMENT HELP TO HOTELIERS: The Goa Hotel and Restaurant Association
president, Mr Prakash Naik, yesterday said that authorities had agreed to
provide subsidy for training hotel staff in maintaining hygiene and
cleanliness in the hotel as well as personnel at the Institute of Hotel
Management and catering Technology. (NT)

PACKED HOUSE AT BJP'S NAVELIM MEET: Sarpanchas of seven out of the nine
panchayats in the Navelim constituency (represented by Luizinho Faleiro for
23 years) shared the dais with the BJP party's top leadership at the block
level meet yesterday. Benaulim ZP member Kennedy Alemao was among the noted
persons seated among the audience in the front row. Around 90 per cent of
the audience comprised of Christian OBC women, who were one time staunch
supporters of the Congress. (H)

TO LOOK AFTER BAR COUNCILS: The Supreme Court has appointed a special
committee headed by advocate general of Maharashtra Goolam Vahanvati to look
after the functions of Bar Council of Maharashtra and Goa. (GT)

PARRIKAR REFUTES CONGRESS ALLEGATIONS: The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar
Parrikar, yesterday refuted the allegation made by the Goa Pradesh Congress
Committee president, Mr Luizinho Faleiro, that the state's financial
condition was precarious and added that Goa's financial position was sound
and health. He dubbed Mr Faleiro's statement as ridiculous and based on
faulty figures. (NT)

GOOF-UPS IN SCIENCE LAB MANUAL: After mistakes in school text books, now
there are goof-ups in the Science Laboratory Manual for Std VIII and IX
prepared by the Goa Board which have irked secondary school science teachers
to the core. Page 67 of the manual circulated four months behind schedule is
handwritten, with diagrams barely visible on account of poor printing. There
is miss-match of diagrams in the very first experiment enlisted in the
manual. (H)

INDO-PORTUGUESE FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY PANEL: The general body panel led by Dr
Wilfred M Mesquita and the governing body headed by Elinio Colaco were
unanimously elected at the biennial elections of the Indo-Portuguese
Friendship Society yesterday. (H)

DELMON'S GOMANTAK FOOD FIESTA: Gomantak Food Fiesta named Amchem Jehvan
has commenced at Hotel Delmon in Panaji from yesterday. The typical Goan
non-vegetarian food festival will be on till September 28 and the
mouth-watering seafood dishes include 'sungtanchem umann', 'suke',
'dhadhabit', 'tonddak', 'uddamethi', etc.Rock crabs, tisreo, kalvam and
khube too. (GT)

ITALIAN COURSE: The Italian government has displayed keen interest in
starting an advanced course in Italian at the Goa University, but has tossed
the ball of making the first move into the University's court. Presently, 28
students are attending a certificate course. Ms Patrizia Raveggi, the
Director of the Italian Embassy Cultural Centre, India, said that she was
very pleasantly surprised when she visited the Goa University as part of her
tour of all the eleven Universities offering Italian in India. (H)

HIS FIGHT TO READ BEGINS IN GOA: Five years after the Goa Central Jail
inmate, Sudhir Sharma (39), won his right to read inside the prison, he is
out and running a library in Jokehra, a remote village in Azamgarh. When his
girlfriend was killed, Sharma became and 

[Goanet]18 SEP 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2003-09-17 Thread Joel D'Souza
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
18 Sep 2003

TWO MORE PERISH ON VERNA BY-PASS: Two persons, Santosh Salelkar (44) of
Margao and Hussein Shaikh (13), died on the spot while Santosh's son,
Mangirish (13) and two others injured in road accident involving five
vehicles on the Verna by-pass on September 17. Around 1.15 pm Santosh from
Colva was driving his son for a cricket coaching camp at Panaji. En route he
gave Hussein and Rahul Bandekar (14), both students of Agnel Ashram, a lift.
After Santosh got on to the Verna bypass the car suddenly swerved and
crashed into an oncoming tanker. Following the collision the tanker driver
lost control and hit the second car driven by advocate Sandra Correia with
her husband Savio and father-in-law Philip in it. They received light
injuries. The tanker than hit a Vespa scooter and a Hero Honda motorcycle
driven by Lino Fernandes, Chandor. (GT)

CM HINTS AT FLYOVER: There is a possibility of a flyover being constructed
to ease traffic congestion at the capital's entry points, claimed Chief
Minister Manohar Parrikar, at a Panjim constituency workers meeting on
September 17. The Chief Minister hinted at the possibility, claiming that
with the International Film Festival of India being hosted in Panjim, the
problem of traffic chaos at entry-points would have to be resolved either by
building a flyover or some other means. (H)

CENTRAL'S APPROVAL SOUGHT FOR MOPA AIRPORT: The State government has sough
the Central government approval for signing the agreement with the
International Civil Aviation Organisation for a techno-feasibility report.
CM Manohar Parrikar has taken up the matter with Union Ministry for Civil
Aviation Rajiv Pratap Rudy and the approval is expected shortly. (GT)

GOVERNMENT HELP TO HOTELIERS: The Goa Hotel and Restaurant Association
president, Mr Prakash Naik, yesterday said that authorities had agreed to
provide subsidy for training hotel staff in maintaining hygiene and
cleanliness in the hotel as well as personnel at the Institute of Hotel
Management and catering Technology. (NT)

PACKED HOUSE AT BJP'S NAVELIM MEET: Sarpanchas of seven out of the nine
panchayats in the Navelim constituency (represented by Luizinho Faleiro for
23 years) shared the dais with the BJP party's top leadership at the block
level meet yesterday. Benaulim ZP member Kennedy Alemao was among the noted
persons seated among the audience in the front row. Around 90 per cent of
the audience comprised of Christian OBC women, who were one time staunch
supporters of the Congress. (H)

TO LOOK AFTER BAR COUNCILS: The Supreme Court has appointed a special
committee headed by advocate general of Maharashtra Goolam Vahanvati to look
after the functions of Bar Council of Maharashtra and Goa. (GT)

PARRIKAR REFUTES CONGRESS ALLEGATIONS: The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar
Parrikar, yesterday refuted the allegation made by the Goa Pradesh Congress
Committee president, Mr Luizinho Faleiro, that the state's financial
condition was precarious and added that Goa's financial position was sound
and health. He dubbed Mr Faleiro's statement as ridiculous and based on
faulty figures. (NT)

GOOF-UPS IN SCIENCE LAB MANUAL: After mistakes in school text books, now
there are goof-ups in the Science Laboratory Manual for Std VIII and IX
prepared by the Goa Board which have irked secondary school science teachers
to the core. Page 67 of the manual circulated four months behind schedule is
handwritten, with diagrams barely visible on account of poor printing. There
is miss-match of diagrams in the very first experiment enlisted in the
manual. (H)

INDO-PORTUGUESE FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY PANEL: The general body panel led by Dr
Wilfred M Mesquita and the governing body headed by Elinio Colaco were
unanimously elected at the biennial elections of the Indo-Portuguese
Friendship Society yesterday. (H)

DELMON'S GOMANTAK FOOD FIESTA: Gomantak Food Fiesta named Amchem Jehvan
has commenced at Hotel Delmon in Panaji from yesterday. The typical Goan
non-vegetarian food festival will be on till September 28 and the
mouth-watering seafood dishes include 'sungtanchem umann', 'suke',
'dhadhabit', 'tonddak', 'uddamethi', etc.Rock crabs, tisreo, kalvam and
khube too. (GT)

ITALIAN COURSE: The Italian government has displayed keen interest in
starting an advanced course in Italian at the Goa University, but has tossed
the ball of making the first move into the University's court. Presently, 28
students are attending a certificate course. Ms Patrizia Raveggi, the
Director of the Italian Embassy Cultural Centre, India, said that she was
very pleasantly surprised when she visited the Goa University as part of her
tour of all the eleven Universities offering Italian in India. (H)

HIS FIGHT TO READ BEGINS IN GOA: Five years after the Goa Central Jail
inmate, Sudhir Sharma (39), won his right to read inside the prison, he is
out and running a library in Jokehra, a remote village in Azamgarh. When his
girlfriend was killed, Sharma became and 

Re: [Goanet]Journalists in Goa

2003-09-17 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, [iso-8859-1] Bernado Colaco wrote:

 Before Edgar and myself critcised you every thing was
 beautiful in flourishing democratic Goa innit?

 On the other hand you and fellow journos divert Goa's
 failures by Portuguese bashing, it is not your fault
 this has been going on for 40 years. As for e-book I
 suppose one can read it on the net! 

Hi Bernado: 

If you are not aware of what has been done, it doesn't mean to say that 
nothing has been done ;-) 

Journalism, like any other profession, has its many problems. Goa is no 
exception to this trend. And this is not restricted to the one problem you 
continually harp about -- 'Portuguese-bashing' to supposedly distract 
attention -- is relatively minor to the many other problems issues we need 
to grapple with.

For our part, we have been trying to highlight these problems. I have 
personally been involved with NEWS-SPEAK, a journal brought out by the Goa 
Union of Journalism in the 'eighties critiquing the practise of journalism 
in Goa. One of my longer essays on the Press and popular protest forms 
part of the late Norman Dantas (ed.) book on Goa. A paper was presented 
at a seminar organised by the Quepem government college on the similar 
theme. Concerns over the BJP government's attitude towards the press has 
been the subject of another article published in the widely-read academic 
journal Economic and Political Weekly. I've been a contributor to the 
journal CRITIQUE, which critically studies media issues across India. The 
e-book we are currently working on will offer many perspectives on the 
subject, from a wide variety of voices. 

Besides me, there have been other critical voices talking about the 
problems besetting journalism in Goa. Mayabhushan Nagvenkar ran a column 
that took a critical look at the local language media (a world which many 
of us are not even aware of) in the Herald. Other journalists brought out 
a satirical Samizdat publication, called SUBSTANDARD, which came out 
infrequently. Dr Teotonio even held a seminar on the history of the Press 
during his Goa days. We have come a long way from the 'sixties and 
'seventies, when the press here was largely defensive about its role.

Yet, you keep harping about one aspect of the problem. It's pretty clear 
what your real intentions (and identity) is, innit ;-) You've been away 
for too long, and still carry the scars of the transition times of 
the 'sixties with you. FN

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[Goanet]RECIPE FOR SPICY SORPOTEL

2003-09-17 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:30:42 -0400 (EDT), Richard de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Good morning!

I'd love to see a good spicy recipe for SORPOTEL! I reside in Canada and
hopefull;y all the ingredients that go into it, will be available here!

Many thanks!

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[Goanet]Re: Un-necessary villification of Dave Futers.

2003-09-17 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:16:45 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dave Futers deserves an apology. Will the culprit 'eat crow' as a result of his
pontification. More people are hung by their tongues than by the rope. The
Russians say, 'When a donkey gets too bold, he goes on the ice and tries to
skate.'

I am in total agreement with Paolo.

Edgar Martins

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[Goanet]Dilbert pokes fun at IIT grads

2003-09-17 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 04:21:02 -0700 (PDT), Lawrie D'souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


KANKANA DATTA

ECONOMICTIMES.COM[ TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16, 2003 02:30:36 PM ]

Jokes apart, the ongoing backlash in the US against job losses to Indian techies
has found a place even in the famous cartoon strip Dilbert.

In a new series starting September 15, cartoonist Scott Adams' cult strip goes
on to take a dig at IIT grads from India. In the first episode, Asok, the
brilliant but naive Indian trainee, the cynical Wally and the ever-sceptical
Alice are sitting in the boardroom with the pointy-haired Boss. Asok says that
though he was the project manager, nobody replied to his e-mail.

However, he is proud of the fact that he is an IIT graduate and considers
himself superior to his counterparts and thus had been able to finish the
project himself. When Wally asks him, Are you tired?, he replies: I am
trained to only sleep during National Holidays.

It doesn't end there. Asok is seen to continue demonstrating his perceived
superiority as an IIT grad, declaring that he tries not to frighten ordinary
people with any gratutious displays of mental superiority. Proof? He no longer
reheats his tea by holding the cup to his forehead and imagining fire!

If the spoof shows up the IIT grad as a bizarre geek, it also offers a voice to
the Indian takeover of the world of hi-tech professionals.

Behind the portrayal of the Indian techie - the IITian - as a work maniac who
has inhuman abilities to slog and thus outpace his American counterparts lies
the growing negativity towards this breed on the part of Americans who feel
they're losing their jobs to more competent Indians.

India's IITs have, of course, been the subject of admiration - now bordering on
envy - in corporate America for more than five years now. A 1998 BusinessWeek
article on India's whiz kids has this to say for IITians: The rise of IITians,
as they are known, is a telling example of how global capitalism works today.
The best companies draw on the best brains from around the world, and the result
is a global class of worker: the highly educated, intensely ambitious college
grad who seeks out a challenging career, even if it is thousands of miles from
home. By rising to the top of Corporate America, these alumni lead all other
Asians in their ability to reach the upper echelons of world-class companies.

A researcher at UC Berkeley estimated that fully 20 per cent of start-ups in
Silicon Valley are IITian-owned. Amazon.com CEO and founder Jeff Bezos has
described the Indian IITian as a world treasure. Bill Gates says the computer
industry has benefited greatly from them.

Besides graduates of the prestigious IITs, where the quality of technical
training is comparable to the best of the educational institutes in the world,
India has a growing bank of 4.1 million technical workers, supplied by over
1,800 educational institutions and polytechnics. These train more than 67,785
computer software professionals every year - many of whom are a threat to
America's homegrown computer jocks in the competetion for jobs.

With the recent swell in outsourcing key software development jobs to India -
coming on top of the BPO migration - a mixture of awe and resentment about
India's brainpower is beginnning to develop. The American media have so far been
mostly kind to IITs and IITians. CBS 60 Minutes had a very flattering portrayal
of IITs recently. In fact, a co-anchor on CBS 60 Minutes had gone on to describe
IIT Bombay thus: Put Harvard, MIT and Princeton together, and you begin to get
an idea of the status of this school in India.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/19/60minutes/main559476.shtml

But as usual, cartoonist Scott Adams - who draws and writes the Dilbert strip
six days a week - is probably ahead of the pack in anticipating media and public
opinion about IIT grads.

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[Goanet]Tiatr somplo - comming to Gujarat

2003-09-17 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:46:29 +0530, figi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

TIATR SOMPLO: The 'tragedy King' of the Konkani stage, Mario Menezes, will be
visiting Gujarat in the last week of September with his hit drama Tiatr Somplo
Cholat Ghara. The Tiatr will be held in major cities of Gujarat including
Baroda and Ahmedabad.

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[Goanet]Job situation in the Gulf

2003-09-17 Thread Eddie
The situation in Iraq has not improved yet. Everyday we hear of bomb attacks
and US soldiers and innocent people being killed. The living conditions are
still bad,  there is a shortage of water, food and electricity. In such
times I would advise my Goan friends to take care while taking up jobs in
Iraq, Kuwait and Jordan, till the situation is calm. Some of the recruiting
agents in Mumbai recruit people for Kuwait and Jordan and later on transfer
them to Iraq. They offer them higher salaries compared to the other gulf
states. A friend of mine working in Kuwait has this to say:

Please inform the people of Goa to take caution while seeking a job in
Kuwait.  Because so many boys are being recruited from goa saying that they
will be taken to Kuwait for job.  From here they took them to Iraq (Tikrit)
and have dumped them there.  Many of the boys are crying to come back to
Kuwait.  I know this incident because our company has started logistic
services.  The Pakistani and Indian drivers are delivering food to Iraq. One
Pakistani driver came to me and said he brought two Goans from Tikrit, they
are about 21 or 22 yrs old. It seems they were crying.  I told him you could
have brought all of them by truck he said he could accommodate two in the
front seat.

It seems on the same day four bus loads of boys from Goa came from Jordan to
Tikrit.  These boys were shocked to know that they are in Iraq.  Because
while recruiting them they were told that they would be working in Jordan.
Unfortunately they were taken from Bombay to Jordan by flight and from
Jordan to Iraq by bus. It took them four days to reach Tikrit.  On the way
they were not given neither water nor food to drink.

Eddie


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Re: [Goanet]Airport Tax

2003-09-17 Thread Tim de Mello
Sounds like a reasonable idea.
Rs. 20/- per head for people using air travel does not seem exorbitant. Even 
Rs. 50/- per head seems O.K. to me.

Why has this not been implemented?

Some airports in Canada (e.g. Vancouver) charge a lot, lot more. The money 
is used to improve/expand the airport.



Tim de Mello
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CANADA




From: R.PACHECO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet]Airport Tax
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 01:33:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
So--600 charter flights are expected!
 Why don't the Dabolim Airport Authorities  introduce an Airport tax of 
say
20 rupees per head.This should be a one time fee only.That revenue could
generate income to subsidies urgently required renovations.That Dabolim
Airport is a definitely sore sight for tourist and visitors
arriving/departing. This airport tax is not new. It is a very effective
method done all over the world.
Cheers!
Roy
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[Goanet]Light relief

2003-09-17 Thread Tim de Mello
With all this discussion of who does what (or who) for Goa . . . .

Take a moment . . .

Our friend from Moira, Santosh Pednekar, appears on the Indian version of 
Who Wants To Be A Millionaire and towards the end of the programme had 
already won Rs. 50,00,000.

You've done very well so far, said Amitabh Bachan, the show's presenter, 
but for Rs. 1 crore you've only got one lifeline left - Phone a Friend.

Everything is riding on this question...will you go for it?

Sure, said Santosh. I'll have a go!

OK.

The question is: Which of the following birds does NOT build its own nest ?

(a) Robin, (b) Sparrow, (c) Cuckoo, or (d) Crow

I haven't got a clue, said Santosh, so I'll use my last lifeline and 
phone my friend Benny Coelho from Mumbai. He's a Moidekar, but since he was 
born and brought up in Mumbai he's very smart and knowledgeable. 

Santosh called up his friend in Mumbai, told him the circumstances and 
repeated the question to him.

Arree Baba Santosh! cried Benny, Simple yaaar...it's a cuckoo.

Are you sure, Benny? asked Santosh.

Arrre bhai hundred percent sure mn! Pakka!

Santosh hung up the phone and told Amitabh Bachan , I'll go with Cuckoo as 
my answer.

Is that your final answer? asked Amitabh Bachan.

Sure, Sir!

There was a long, long pause, then Amitabh Bachan screamed, Cuckoo is the 
correct answer! Santosh, you've just won Rs. One Crore!!!

The next night, Santosh threw a big party for all Moidekars at the Moira 
Club. Benny was specially flown in from Mumbai as the Chief Guest.

When the time for speeches come Santosh takes the mike and asks Benny, Tell 
me, Benny? How on earth did you know it was the cuckoo that doesn't build 
its own nest? I mean you know precious nothing about birds otherwise.

C'mon yaaar! Baskya! laughed Benny. You Govans are so foolish yr. 
Everybody knows a cuckoo lives in a clock!

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[Goanet]re:- Airport Taxes.

2003-09-17 Thread goanet
In answer to Roy's suggestion of introducing an airport tax I can
confirm that they do levy a tax on foreign tourists on leaving the
country.  I am not sure what it stands at the moment but I do believe
its in the region of 350 to 500 Rs. 

At one time you had to purchase this at a very small window at the
airport and the person never was able to give you change (not a problem
as your not allowed to take Indian Rs out of the country,  do I smell a
scam)  

No it is incorporated into your ticket price as flights were delayed
because the beuacratic method of collecting it help up the checking in
of passengers.

Its no up to the local people to find out what this money is spent on.
It can not be improvements to Dabolim.  Its worse now than it was 19
years ago


Dave
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Subject: [Goanet]Journalists in Goa

2003-09-17 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
Why are the Journalists in Goa so scared to speak out in Goa? Is the Salazar
regime back there?
I have read Godfrey Gonsalves lashing out agaisnt RN. I have known Rajan
Narayan while still in Goa and admired his contribution to the Konkani cause
 I do not necessarily disagree with Godfrey. Neither with FN. Real life is
much more complex that what appears. But what bothers me and should bother
all on goanet, at least those who have to live and survive in Goa (not those
who can give can give bold advice from far away) is the fear of democracy!
Teotonio
 


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Re: [Goanet]Bigbox: Packaged to perfection

2003-09-17 Thread Bernado Colaco
 --- Cyril D'Cunha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Bigbox: Packaged to perfection
 
Timely intervention by Cyril to back the owners of O
Heraldo in wake of the Narayan issue.


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[Goanet](no subject)

2003-09-17 Thread Shaikh Chandsab
 Hi sir i am a   indian national my name is shaikh chandsab and i am from
goa  from Merces goa  sir i  apply for canada immigaration but unfortunate
i score only 69 Marks  actually i apply throuhg one agents after seven
Months i got a letter saying that i score only 69 so now i am looking goans
brother help at least to send me  invitation letter  from canada to come to
canada  here in doha  all goans  are telling me that in canada  all goans
are very helpful  hope you will try to help me in this matter at present i
am working in  doha qatar sir i am ready to pay your fees whateve it is ok
then  bye have a nice day  take care best regards give my regards to all
goans bye hope you will give my reply as early as possible ok bye
yours sincerely
shaikh chandsab



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Re: [Goanet]Bigbox: Packaged to perfection

2003-09-17 Thread Valmiki Faleiro
From: Cyril D'Cunha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:59 PM
Subject: [Goanet]Bigbox: Packaged to perfection


 exposed to a bee-hive of activity, with nearly 200 workers busy at their
 different tasks, of either printing the daily newspaper Herald, or
 churning out printed and finished packaging products that could rival the
 best in the world, says its proud owner Raul Fernandes.
 



Must we *package* congratulations in advance to Cyril?  ;-)

Without malice,
Valmiki



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[Goanet]Congrats Joaquim !!

2003-09-17 Thread sarabond
We are proud of you Joaquim.
Your had work has borne fruits. Keep it up !!

- Alfonso Bond Braganza
  Luizinha Stores
  Mapusa GOA
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[Goanet]Finally Goa Govt eyes waterways for transport tourism

2003-09-17 Thread Goa Desc
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Govt eyes waterways

The State government has commenced exploring the
possibility of introducing inland waterways as an additional
and cheaper means of passenger transportation within the
State of Goa.
Following a cabinet approval, the concept which was toyed
upon in the past, kicked off today with key government officials
sailing along one of the routes which is likely to be considered
for the inland water transport system.Though details and modalities
are still being worked out by the departments involved with inland
waterways, an important route on the list is the Panjim-Vasco route
while another is the Panjim-Sanquelim.
The old route from Dona Paula to Harbour has been struck out
in view of the inconvenience caused to commuters. Motor-boats
are also expected to add attraction to the new mode of
conveyance. According to information available, water transport
from Panjim to Sanquelim is around 22 kilometers as against
road transport calculated at 45 kilometers.
The new concept is likely to see the light of the day shortly
considering the fact that road transport in Goa is plagued with
accidents, while the lack of additional land to widen roads is
leading to congestion and increasing bottlenecks.
The government is also exploring the possibility of utilizing
inland waterways for transportation of goods and commodities
into Goa.The waterways which are endowed with a network of
rivers is also being looked upon as a facet for developing water
transport for tourism activities which could generate employment
directly and indirectly.
Besides opening waterways transport in the private sector in terms
of regular boats for passenger transportation, the government is also
proposing to introduce boat taxis for tourists, and also boat houses
in a bid to compete with the hotel industry.
Highly placed government officials said that waterways traffic would
be required to be strengthened to ensure safety. Similarly, rules for
licensing are also being worked on and strengthening of infrastructure
namely jetties, dredging of rivers, communication systems etc.
are also being considered.
The initial survey which commenced today was carried out
Development Commission Dr Vijay Madan, Secretary for Inland
Water Transport Rajiv Yaduvanshi, Director of Transport D A Hawaldar,
Managing Director of Goa Tourism Development Corporation
Pramod Shetye and Captain of Ports Captain A P Mascarenhas.
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[Goanet]CRIME IN GOA:Rape of a17 year old student from Davorlim

2003-09-17 Thread Goa Desc
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Youth arrested for raping teenager
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The Maina-Curtorim police have arrested an 18 year old
youth on charges of raping a teenager. According to the police,
mother of a 17 year old girl hailing from a village close to Margao,
has lodged a complaint alleging that her daughter was threatened,
assaulted and raped by a student of the same college, who
is a drop-out.
She further atated that the accused Amit Gaonkar from Uddo,
Raia stopped her daughter while she was on her way to college
and struck a conservation. Subsequently, he proposed to marry
her. When she refused, he allegedly threatened to stab her if
she did not come with him to meet his parents at that very
moment.
The complainant further states that out of fear the victim went
with the accused Amit at his residence only to find the house
locked. He allegedly assaulted her, dragged her inside the
house and raped her.
As the house is located in an isolated place nobody heard
her cries for help. After raping her, he let her go after which
she ran on to the road, took a lift and came to Margao, the
mother of the girl stated.
The girl related the incident to her mother in the evening.
PSI Uday Parab acting on the complaint picked-up the
accused Amit from his residence and placed him under
arrest on the charge of rape.
The victim and the accused were sent for a medical
check-up at the Goa Medical College.
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Re: [Goanet]Re: Airport Tax

2003-09-17 Thread Eddie Fernandes
Before anyone else get carried away...

The Dabolim airport  tax  is:

Rs 500 for International flights
Rs 150 for flights to neighbouring countries
Nil for internal flights.

Foreigners must also buy visas to enter India. The visa application fees
are:
£30 (Rs 2000)  minimum valid for up to 6 months.
£90 (Rs 6000) multi trip valid for up to 5 years.

It is claimed that 600 charter flights are expected this season. Who by?  I
will be most surprised if there are 400.

Dabolim International airport was recently voted India's third best in an
Indian national passenger survey.
It was also voted the world's worst International airport in a UK national
passenger survey two years ago.

Cheers,

Eddie
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:21:51 +1000, noel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The tax that would be introduced (and you are not the fist to think of it)
would
only increase in time and the result..Dabolim airport would
still be
s sore sight for everyone. I have to disagree with you, it is not an
effective
method, have you arrived/departed or transited Mumbai??


  - Original Message - 
  From: R.PACHECO
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:33 PM

So--600 charter flights are expected!
Why don't the Dabolim Airport
Authorities introduce an Airport tax of say 20 rupees per
head.This should be a one time fee only.That revenue could generate
income to subsidies urgently required renovations.That Dabolim
Airport
is a definitely sore sight for tourist and
visitors arriving/departing. This airport tax is not new. It is a
very effective method done all over the world.
Cheers!
Roy




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[Goanet]GOA:High Court: Lawyers eating into foundation of judiciary

2003-09-17 Thread Goa Desc
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Lawyers eating into foundation of judiciary: HC

The Panjim Bench of the Bombay High Court has observed
that it is most unfortunate that the rock bottom of the foundation
of the judiciary is being eaten slowly by the white ants like the
lawyers against whom their own clients have made serious
complaints and who have been finally punished for their misdeeds.
This observation was made in the judgement of Ranjit Satardekar
(advocate) v/s Rucmini Narvekar and others. In the judgement,
the court has taken a very serious view of illegalities committed
by lawyers and advocates in general.The petitioner had approached
the High Court challenging the Order of June 14, 2003 passed
by the Disciplinary Committee of the Bar Council of Maharastra
and Goa refusing to stay disciplinary proceedings against him
during the pendency of the criminal complaint in the same matter
before the Criminal Court at Panjim.
A disciplinary case had been initiated on the complaint filed by
Rucmini Raghunath Narvekar of Sawantwadi, making serious
allegations of professional misconduct by the petitioner causing
grave injury to her rights and property.
He allegedly misused his power of attorney and deprived Rucmini
and her deceased husband of property by a sale deed executed
by him, purporting to sell and transfer the property in the name
of his wife.
In their 22-page judgement the double bench comprising Justice
R J Kochar and Justice P V Hardas quoted Lord Halifax, - If laws
could speak for themselves, they would complain of lawyers in the
first place.
The court observed, it is indeed very unfortunate that the noble
profession of the legal fraternity has come under cloud. The present
is not the only solitary instance. There are a number of such complaints
which are pending before the Bar Council against the Advocates.
Stating that the recent developments and reported cases concerning
members of the legal fraternity have perturbed us more, the judges
pointed out that if the independent judiciary is the pillar of the Indian
democracy, the legal fraternity functioning in the independent judiciary
is the very foundation of the democracy.
Our profession has a very noble and great past history. We have
had a large number of legal luminaries who have set great ideals
of sacrifice, nobility and independence. It is however most unfortunate
that the rock bottom of the foundation of the judiciary is being eaten
slowly by the white ants like the lawyers against whom their own
clients have made serious complaints and who have been finally
punished for their misdeeds. The complaint against the petitioner
is also of the very same nature, the court observed.
The court observed that though it was possible that the charges
levelled against the petitioner would be proved and that he would
get appropriate punishment, the damage he had allegedly done
to his clients and to the legal profession can never be redeemed,
and the injury inflicted by his betrayal on the noble professions
would never be healed.
If he (advocate) commits any misdeed or misconduct as a member
of the legal fraternity, the system at large suffers and people tend
to lose confidence in the legal fraternity which is the foundation of
the rule of law. And once such unfortunate event takes place, large
number of people start suspecting all those who work in the judicial
system. Such diseases are infectious and they tend to spread very
fast if not cured timely.
The nature and character of such enquiry (before the Bar Council)
therefore cannot be put on par and can never be equated with the
disciplinary proceedings against the delinquent employees by their
employers.
We have to deal with very ruthlessly any black sheep amongst us
so that the course of justice is not polluted even slightly. In an
enquiry against an erring lawyer, he has to cleanse himself of even
the slightest doubt or aspersion cast on him. He must meet the
allegations before the disciplinary committee which is constituted
by his own peers.
As a legal fraternity, we must cherish our nobility not only in the
interest of the profession but in the interest of the whole judicial
system, observed the High Court while declining to stay the
disciplinary proceedings against the advocate.
Every such enquiry must be completed irrespective of the criminal
or civil proceedings even on the same set of facts and allegations,
it held.
Referring to the case, the court observed that prima facie it was
a totally improper act on the part of the petitioner. he ought not
to have fallen prey to such 

[Goanet]Re: Airport Tax

2003-09-17 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:21:51 +1000, noel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The tax that would be introduced (and you are not the fist to think of it) would
only increase in time and the result..Dabolim airport would still be
s sore sight for everyone. I have to disagree with you, it is not an effective
method, have you arrived/departed or transited Mumbai??


  - Original Message - 
  From: R.PACHECO 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:33 PM
  
So--600 charter flights are expected!
 Why don't the Dabolim Airport 
Authorities  introduce an Airport tax of say 20 rupees per 
head.This should be a one time fee only.That revenue could generate 
income to subsidies urgently required renovations.That Dabolim Airport 
is a definitely sore sight for tourist and 
visitors arriving/departing. This airport tax is not new. It is a 
very effective method done all over the world.
Cheers!
Roy

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[Goanet]Lesbians waiting to get out of the closet in Goa...

2003-09-17 Thread franky fernandes
Lesbians waiting to get out of the closet in Goa...

By Frankie Gerard

After the gays who are coming out in the open regarding their identity in
the State of Goa , it is the turn of the lesbians to further their cause and
seek recognition too.

We want to be what we are and feel so let us just live like that, stated
one lesbian who recently took up for the cause of Goans lesbians at a meet
at Mumbai.

And mind you this so called `unnatural sex' does not find favour only with
the weaker sections -- socially or educationally.

Says one 24-yr-old lesbian doctor who is presently doing her MBBS at Goa
Medical College -- Shilpa (not her real name) on whether she feels she took
the wrong decision somewhere along the `path', No. Not at all I think I made
the perfect move.

She  recently met with people of her community   at a conference organized
by ILGA ( International Lesbian Gay Association) in Mumbai and she said 
the Conference received wide support from Asia countries.

At the conference issues such as safe sex -- How can we be protected by
HIV/Aids or any other infections and the problems of the other countries and
how they are facing were discussed.

This conference not only served to educate and enhance our awareness on
these subjects; it also served as a meeting place for activists to meet and
exchange ideas on how best to serve their communities, she claimed.

The Women Support Group members who participated in the Conference gained
valuable insight into other activists and their work and were able to
network effectively with them creating a support base, she further
disclosed.

The story of Shilpa dates back when she was only 13 years old, she first
encountered sex with her cousin sister and she said that her cousin made her
arouse on bed and they both landed doing a lot of things and she felt like
that she was in Paradise.

Was it difficult to find a partner?, Shilpa claimed that she has steady
partner from Finland but when she is not here she would not hesitate to go
with someone else.

At 14 years of age I felt that this is really my life and I did'nt feel
like having a boyfriend. then I met many others from this community, she
pointed out.

When asked as to at the age of 14 years did she find some different behavior
from others?

Shilpa pointed out, Yeah I used to like to be a male, I never used to like
to wear earrings or any other ornaments such as Jewelery which signifies
that I am female.

But unfortunately her cousin had to leave for Gujarat and she had to change
partner and till date has had about seven partners she further adds We have
a problem to meet we cant meet like gays like Arun, she said expressing
fear of the Indian Penal Code.

At season times its easier to pick lesbians from Disco and pub like the
ones situated along the Northern coastal belt, but for the moment and this
time of the season we stick on internet or we friends share if we get, she
claimed.

Further she pointed out that to her knowledge and friends there are around
60 to 70 lesbians in the State of Goa but further adds: These I know but
with whom I dont have contact I cant tell about them. But there will be much
more than 500 who are either shy or afraid of the society.

We have a support group which is based in Margao, she pointed out.

Though Shilpa parents are not aware of her activities, Shilpa says: But
whenever they talk about my wedding I just shout at them, she further adds
If I got married I would have to separate from my parents.  Its the same if
I go with my girl friend. I have friends who are staying as husband and
wife. The only think is that they are scared to come out in the open.

Everyone in my friends circle know about me, she said and claimed that was
because she has made her looks like a male. I totally look like a male,
she said.

How would Shilpa try to understand members of her community or get in touch
with them and she says: Our all friends are a member of Lesbian Lounge.
Otherwise, while chatting itself we can make out.

Pointing out that internet has been a boom to his community Shilpa said: On
the Internet specially, we make up the quota for the season. We are already
doing so many lesbians who come to India. In Goa so we can book for us some
nights. Mostly British, Finland, and from other European countries, from the
age group 16 to 50 years or more.

What are the common acts that are carried out and she replied: In our group
there is a person who act as a male and one as a passive fe-male.

In Goa we don't have any thing such as a sex shoppe' Shilpa pointed out and
claimed that it was in Mumbai that she would do the shopping for such sex
toys.

The to be doctor from GMC is presently negotiating with other gay activist
so as to have a collaboration and a stronger base in the state.

Lesbians come from all professions and anyone who has a feeling for such sex
feeling should come forward, Shilpa advocated and pointed out that there
were many students and those women married but not happy 

[Goanet]Bigbox: Packaged to perfection

2003-09-17 Thread Cyril D'Cunha
Bigbox: Packaged to perfection

The next time you reach for the medicine bottle, there is every chance, that
the container box, could have come from the stable of 'Bigbox', a unit
located in the Verna Industrial estate, specialising in the manufacture of
all aspects of packaging material.

A modest signboard points to a plain large shed, but once in, you are
exposed to a bee-hive of activity, with nearly 200 workers busy at their
different tasks, of either printing the daily newspaper Herald, or
churning out printed and finished packaging products that could rival the
best in the world, says its proud owner Raul Fernandes.

Whether by design or serendipity, Fernandes, a home-spun personality,
coupled with a shyness and an almost withdrawn modesty, has certainly added
a new dimension to his business of owning and printing the Herald, with
the simultaneous package manufacturing industry. The sweet smell of
newsprint and inks pervade the 5000 sq. mt. area of the shed with a high
dome, dotted with specialised machinery for different tasks, right from the
huge German Heidelbergs, UV printers, the compact and modern Repro or film
processing and designing department, foil printers, a workshop for inhouse
maintenance of machinery, and the small waste packaging compressor unit,
which Fernandes says, fetches him Rs.6 - Rs.7 per kilo of waste.

The 'Bigbox', may be a comparative fledgling - just a year and a half old -
but it is big enough by any standards, to give similar units elsewhere in
the country a run for their money, and as the name suggests, holds out great
promise of keeping on growing. Infact, expansion work has already started on
an adjoining 4-acre plot, with an additional investment of Rs. 25 crores for
package manufacture, in addition to the already invested Rs. 20 crores in
the present shed. Makes sense to use bank loans, says Fernandes with a
great measure of self-confidence, especially as the local banks have been
eager to oblige any borrowers. Already, his annual turnover is in the region
of Rs. 15 crores, per annum, he said. He disclosed that he had already been
approached by a party in New Zealand to set up a similar packaging unit
there and was debating the prospect, as he presently has his hands full,
with orders not only from Indian firms but also from multinationals.

As for infrastructure facilities provided at the Verna Industrial Estate, he
had no problems, as he got his power supply from Reliance and had his own
borewell for his water needs.

With no shortage of optism, Fernandes now has other diversification plans on
the anvil, like setting up of three authentic Italian, Chinese and Egyptian
restaurants, which he is confident will create a new experience for
gourmets.

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[Goanet]Roseferns' new tiatr

2003-09-17 Thread sarabond
The King of Centuries, playwright and director Roseferns is coming out with
his new play Maim... Tuzo Put Hanv !
This time it is not a non-stop khell tiatr but a full fledge Tiatr with
Kantaram and Kantorists. The first show will be
premiered in Mapusa on his birthday the 21st September 2003, in the morning.
He has lined -up a big cast with
three ace comedians John D'Silva, Agustinho and Crizon besides two child
artist baby Kezia and Roseanna.

The show is supposed to be staged only in major cities of Goa due to a large
setting including a Revolving stage
which he boost of being specially transported all the way from Delhi. In the
past veteran directors like Nelson
Alphonso, Prem Kumar and C.Alvares have presented the shows with Revolving
stage. And now it is yet another
great to prove his might to the Konkani audience.

Lets await for the novelty of this season.

- Alfonso Bond Braganza
  Luizinha Stores
  Mapusa Goa
  Ph: 2252975 / 9822121498



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Re: [Goanet]Marlon's comparison - Miguel Dave (really: tourism's impact on Goa)

2003-09-17 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
We're going off track. Knowing both Dave and Minguel, one feels their 
contribution to their respective fields is unquestionable. We need not 
turn this into a debate of who has done more for Goa. Dave has contributed 
in a great way to the SFX Girls High School in Mapusa. Miguel has been a 
livewire in non-profit initiatives since his President's Scouts days in 
the 'seventies, in rejuvenating the Botanical Society of Goa (want to 
join its free mailing list?), and a long list of other initiatives.

But this is not the point. The issue is getting sidetracked is what is 
mass tourism's impact on Goa, where charter tourism actually benefits the 
state significantly (or only helps certain pockets), whether locals in the 
industry get a good deal...

Miguel has raised all these questions. I think he has valid points. Those 
who come to Goa on charter holidays should not feel that the criticism is 
personally targeted at them, or that they have to defend their role 
personally. This is an issue related to the system, and one which Goa 
indeed needs to debate closely. Due to the clout of the tourism industry, 
this debate was never really possible in a significant way in the local 
press. Personally, one recalls a case when hoteliers were trying to even 
pull the plug off a report put up on the Net, which was critical of the 
environmental impact mass tourism (including charters) was having on the 
village of Calangute 

An increasing number of people in Goa feel that while a few gain from 
tourism, the social and economic price is quite heavy. This is an issue 
that is worthy of being debated. Goa University sociologist Alito 
Siqueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] was talking about this very issue at Goa Desc's 
Friday Balcao last Friday. Unfortunately one could not make it there... 
maybe Roland will update us on the perspectives emerging there. FN



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Re: [Goanet]Journalists in Goa

2003-09-17 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, [iso-8859-1] Bernado Colaco wrote:

  Kudos to Aires Rodrigues and Floriano Lobo for
  having
  the guts to speak out and expose the misdeeds of the
  politicians.  Unfortunately, their message has a
  narrow audience limited to cyberspace.
  Vivian A. D'Souza
  

 After Edgar and myself critcized Fred, it now seems
 that skeletons are coming out of the cupboard.
 Portuguese bashing was and is the norm of journalism
 in Goa for the past 40 years to walk the thin line of
 job security, in what is called a flourishing democracy.

Quite a nice troll! 

Everyone agrees that journalism in Goa has many defects and many problems, 
which naturally affect all of us practitioners here. We too are only human 
and have our failings too.

But Bernado Colaco is straying far away from reality by explaining all 
the problems that journalism suffers from in terms of Portuguese 
bashing. Like those few guys on the Goa-Goans mailing list, who blame the 
Press for every ill Goa is suffering, and then go on to somehow link this 
with the few (accurate or otherwise) reports critical of Portugual that 
have appeared in the local press, Bernado and the others are simply 
missing the point.

The newspapers offer limited scope for one to express their views. This is 
true in Goa, as in almost any other place of the so-called 'developed' 
world. As former journalist Ben Antao has rightly pointed out, the concept 
of a Free Press is a myth, regardless which part of the globe you're 
located in. The Net offers wider space for expression of one's views, but 
as pointed out by Vivian, reaches a limited audience.

Goa's media also faces its own specific problems, which need to be 
discussed and debated. Some of us journalists are working to come out with 
an e-book on Goa's media, that will look precisely at these issues. We 
look forward to having Bernado read it. But where are you really 
located? Should we send it to Macau, London or somewhere in the American 
continent? ;-) FN 

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