[Goanet]RE: Antwort: why Sonia? Are we all Indians/ or Indian passort holders?

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:56:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Neal Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have no problem with Sonia Gandhi's ethnicity.

My wife is Italian.  Sometimes, she's more "Indian" than I am. :-)

It's all good.

Neal Pinto
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http://www.nealpinto.com

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 --- On Tue 04/20,  < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

From:  [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:21:00 +0200

Please add to Gracias article.Mogall Goiemkars,To say that 
Mrs. Sonia Gandhi is not indian because she is white colouredwoman or not 
born in India or some other insignificant words dedicated toher,is 
ridiculous. 

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[Goanet]As voting begins....more election stories

[Bosco D'Mello]

Parrikar's prestige is at stake in Goa
Times of India - India
PANAJI: Much is at stake for the ruling BJP in the coastal state of Goa which
has two Lok Sabha seats going to polls on April 26. The party is trying hard to
retain both the seats which it won in 1999 to prove Goa is a model state for the
BJP-led NDA government.



INDIA News > Goa slum dwellers find polls a platform to put forth ... 
New Kerala - Ernakulam,Kerala,India
... ignore it. Many of the slum- dwellers are migrants from the neighbouring
state Karnataka who settled in Goa several decades ago. But ...
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WOMEN voters take centrestage in Goa
Times of India - India
PANAJI: Of the 40 assembly constituencies comprising the two Lok Sabha seats in
Goa, 11 have more women voters than men while in two, both the sexes are equal
...
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Re: [Goanet]Goan chutzpah

[Helga do Rosario Gomes]

Can I write about Sulfur reducing bacteria instead? They are more fun!
--Helga

> 
> I would like to take this opportunity to invite Helga or any resident of
> Goa (Are Goan writers and padres reading?) to write an assay on "Goan
> Christian culture without faith". Look forward to reading it. Thanks
> Regards.


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[Goanet]Frantic appeals..... hold on, Goans living in Goa cannot be influenced just like that!

[Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com]

Frantic appeals. hold on, Goans living in Goa
cannot be influenced just like that?

Of late, I have read, heard comments as well as
received even threatening emails for my support to the
present set of MLAs and that includes the CM, Manohar
Parrikar. (Parra, being my village, I am also called
Porrikar, by the elders and the surrounding village
faternity within the Saligao constituency). I am not
contesting the elections, not for the foreseeable
future, though, I am tempted to. Although I have the
ability to convince to get myself elected unopposed -
atleast among the Goans here for the last two decades!
 And the tradition continues to-date!

Back in Amchem Goa, Goans know whom to vote and whom
to empower.  We do not need frantic appeals via the
emails/telephones to 'tell' our folks home whom to
vote?  Isn't this undemocratic to influence 'voting'?
 
Goa politics has seen a tumultuous time in the last
decades. The Congress, which won, a few years ago,
with a simple majority of 21 in the Assembly, split
twice, allowing a rag-tag coalition led by the BJP to
seize power.  The end result, both MPs of the BJP,
sprinted towards Delhi, and we are proud of their
achivements!  

If now we 'tell our folks' to vote for the 
'hand', 'simply' because we do not like the 'lotus' or
its colour what happens if the above situation is
repeated!  Will not the 'lotus' bloom once again and
will our 'Christians' supporters resign?

Observers say what may swing matters also in favour of
the BJP in case of a close contest is the fact that it
is ruling at the Centre (NDA outfit) and the
progressive completion of its full term (a rarity in
our times, infact the previous governments were a
nuisance, if not shame).  I distinctly remember what
the Deputy PM, L.K. Advani repeated during his 'rally
speech' at the Mapusa Taxi Stand pedestal on his first
trip to Goa after the last central government was
sworn in. 'HAM'  'We will complete the full term
and we will show that we have the ability, resources
and the determination to be successful'.  How true? 
Who can deny this statement?

Which party has developed Goa's infrastructure, as is
done by the last government?  We are moving ahead! 
Ahead of other States - a shining example indeed.

What may swing matters in favour of the BJP in case of
a close contest is the fact that it is ruling at the
Centre, and have achieved progressive growth (see the
dollar rate)! 

For those Goans who have alligence to the regional
parties will tend to keep that in mind if they have to
cast their lot with one of the national parties. 

Goa may be a small state, but the timing of the
election has made it crucial for all sides. For the
BJP, a win here will come as a big morale booster.

For the Congress, bagging Goa would endorse its
already strengthening position, although at at slower
pace, in the state.  

But only around mid-May will we know how many ads will
appear in the press to congratulate the ex-CM, ex-MP
and Benaulim's great son of the soil who is contesting
on the Congress ticket?

If the current set-up of MPs get themselves
re-elected, not only in Goa, but also in other states,
we will continue to have 'shining India' forward its
path towards progress and development.

Possibly we will get our rightful place among the UN
Security Council too!

Only time will tell.  

Gaspar Almeida (Q8)   25th April 2004
Associate, www.goa-world.com

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Re: [Goanet]DEAR FELLOW NETTERS

[halur rasho]

Mr Churchill Alemao, a paragon of secularism ? We are
all not brainless idiots , you know.





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[Goanet]The Passion

[Gilbert Lawrence]

The Passion
from Jyotiba Patil:

As I stood outside the doors..

With Best Regards,
Jyotiba Patil

Gilbert Lawrence:
Thanks Jyotiba for your post 
We sincerely needed it.
Regards and Good wishes.


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[Goanet]Tourists overdose on drugs, fun in Goa: Washington Times.

[Eddie Fernandes]

[Note:  I cannot but help being skeptical of the names of some of the
experts and the quotes attributed to them.  Is Joel De Souza a restaurant
owner in Anjuna?  Eddie Fernandes]

Headline: Tourists overdose on drugs, fun in Goa
By Shaikh Azizur Rahman
Source: The Washington Times. 24 Apr. 2004 at
http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20040423-093652-1618r.htm

Text:

GOA, India. The peaceful, fun-loving and tourist-friendly image of India's
western beach state of Goa has suffered a major blow after a new police
report pointed to at least 59 "mysterious deaths" of foreign tourists in the
past 15 months.

Twenty-five of the visitors died in a three-month period - the peak
tourist season between December 2003 and February 2004 - and many suspect
most of the deaths were caused by drug overdoses.

"Up to 10 foreign tourists had died here almost every year, and it
hardly made any news. But this time the toll was sensationally high," said
David Lobo who runs a restaurant at Calangute, a beach popular among foreign
tourists.

Although police linked only five deaths to drugs last year, activists
campaigning for a "clean and drug free Goa" believe that overdoses of heroin
and a killer cocktail of other drugs openly available at local pharmacists
caused the "mysterious deaths" of 59 foreign tourists.

A Goa Medical College forensic medicine specialist, who asked not to be
named, said that because of "inordinate delay" by police in collecting the
viscera from bodies of dead tourists, traces of ketamine were going
undetected.

Since the "plasma half-life of ketamine is just 2 to 4 hours, the
viscera [in cases of suspected ketamine deaths] should be collected soon -
if possible within 24 hours of death. But in as many as 90 percent of cases,
this [doesn't happen] ... making detection of traces of heavily decomposed
ketamine in the viscera difficult.

"In quite a few cases, tourists admit in their dying statements to have
taken ketamine. But later, forensic experts fail to find any of the drug in
the viscera after death, obviously because of a delay in collecting the
viscera. ... In such cases police cannot link the death to ketamine."

Ketamine hydrochloride, or ketamine, was originally used as an
anaesthetic for American soldiers in the Vietnam War. It resurfaced as
"Special K" in the 1990s, and became popular at rave parties, used with
cannabis, heroin, cocaine and Ecstasy.

"Under the influence of ketamine, which gives its users an 'out of body'
or 'near death' feeling, some tourists dived into the sea without knowing
how to swim, and died. Later, police registered them as ordinary drowning
deaths," said Joel De Souza, a restaurant owner in Anjuna, another popular
beach in Goa.

Of the 59 foreigners who died, the largest number, 28, came from
Britain. Ian Hughes, the British deputy high commissioner in Bombay, visited
Goa recently to meet with police officials, members of narcotic squads and
doctors at Goa Medical College to discuss the deaths.

About 20,000 British backpackers visit Goa every year, far outnumbering
tourists from other countries. It could be one reason why nearly half the
drug fatalities in Goa are from Britain.

An officer at police headquarters in Panaji said: "Some professional
British drug traffickers have probably started operating on this circuit,
smuggling ketamine and other drugs to the UK and other European
destinations. Only a few 'small fries' have been caught, but it is only the
tip of the iceberg."

A federal Narcotics Control Bureau official from New Delhi said:
"Because of the well-publicized crackdown on drug cartels in Thailand last
year, the price of heroin and other drugs shot up there. So, in recent
months an increasing number of foreign drug users have switched to Goa and
Manali, where they find a variety of drugs easily available in the
underground market."

Manali is a hill station in the northern Indian state of Himachal
Pradesh, the gateway to the Himalayas.

In the last three months, Goa's Food and Drugs Administration seized
ketamine and methamphetamine worth about U.S. $10,200 from four unauthorized
pharmacists around Goa's popular beaches.

When Nicholas Thiery Sabrice Borjnat, 30, a French citizen, was found
dead in his hotel room off Anjuna beach on Jan. 25 this year, police found
an empty vial of ketamine.

In the room of British tourist Nicholas Roy Beckett, 37, who died Dec.
9, 2003, police found empty vials of ketamine and methamphetamine. Later,
the postmortem report confirmed that he died of acute pulmonary and brain
edema caused by a drug overdose.

A 37-year-old British jeweler and his French companion died in December,
also at Anjuna beach, after the two overdosed on ultra-pure heroin bought
from a local trafficker.

Among the 59 foreign tourists who died mysteriously in the past 15
months, most were between 20 and 45 years old. Twenty-two were from European
countries other than Britain - G

[Goanet]DEAR FELLOW NETTERS

[airesrod]

Dear Fellow Netters,

Tomorrow is the day,  its 26th April and Goans will be
voting to elect two representatives to India's 14th
Parliament ( Lok Sabha ). 

These elections are crucial and an opportunity to
defeat the divisive, communal and fascist plans of the
BJP.

Could I take the liberty of appealing to you that
wherever you are please call your family and friends
in Goa and request them to vote for the Congress- NCP
alliance candidates.

Your near and dear ones can restore communal harmony
in Goa by voting

In North Goa - Dr Wilfred De  Sousa - symbol - CLOCK

In South Goa  - Mr Churchill Alemao - symbol - HAND 

Goa needs your help, we all have a role to play. So
please pick up the phone to restore secularism in Goa.

With best regards,

Aires Rodrigues
Ribandar









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[Goanet]Branding India (by Sunil Khilnani)

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:21:48 +0530 (IST)
From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This essay is by a noted writer and scholar (author of *The Idea of 
India*) who incidentally also has a home in Saligao. FN

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  Branding India
  
  By Sunil Khilnani in Delhi
  Seminar / 15 December 2003
  http://www.india-seminar.com/2004/533/533%20sunil%20khilnani.htm
  
DEFINITIONS of national identity are never fixed, immutable, graven 
images: they are protean, changeable, fabulous beasts. National 
identity is a form of story telling, a public narration of tales 
about who `we' are, and such identities are remade to suit current 
tastes and requirements. So, when Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee 
recently announced that `today the "Made in India" brand is making 
waves across the globe… there is a big demand for "Bharat Brand",' 
while on TV and in magazines, campaigns advertising `Shining India' 
and `Incredible India' are burning up taxpayers money, we need to 
ask: what exactly is the brand that is being projected?

In the current debates about the future of the international order, 
the values and principles that nations embody and seek to project 
have once again acquired great importance. Today, we live in a world 
where what has been called the `battle of ideas', and of images, is a 
crucial terrain of action. Even countries that have great economic 
and military power require what Joseph Nye has called `soft power'; 
and this is especially true for countries that do not have such 
material power, as Mahatma Gandhi – an early exponent of such soft 
power – long ago recognised.

It is somewhat ironic, therefore, that at the moment when India 
wishes for a more active presence on the world stage, the world's 
sense of India, of what it stands for and what it wishes to become, 
seems as confused and divided today as is India's own sense of itself.

Let me put it in short hand. Is India's future direction embodied and 
indicated by the present reality of Bangalore? Recently, the magazine 
Businessweek (1/12/2003), in a rather lyrical portrait of Bangalore's 
shiny research centres, put it thus: `Except for the female engineers 
wearing saris and the soothing Indian pop music wafting through… this 
could be GE's giant research and development facility in the upstate 
New York town of Niskayuna.' Or, on the other hand, is India's 
present and future reality captured by the images of horror unleashed 
in Gujarat last year? The pictures there were of murderous Hindu 
gangs, led by the rich and educated: doctors, advocates, shopkeepers 
roved in cars, punched mobile phones and used government supplied 
computer printouts of Muslim addresses to conduct their systematic 
mayhem.

In Bangalore, one senses the enchanting promise of technology to 
transform and uplift lives, to take India forward into the global 
economy. In Gujarat, one feels the brute fact of technology at the 
service of state sponsored massacres which threaten to drag India 
back into a dark world of religious bloodshed.

Till its recent implosion, Gujarat epitomized a newly emerging India: 
its aspirational middle class, with strong links to the outside world 
and to the large, successful Gujarati diaspora, wore proudly a 
reputation for industry, entrepreneurship and civic mindedness. The 
conventional wisdom has it that economic progress and the emergence 
of a middle class promote mode-rate and centrist politics, and as 
such provide the conditions for a liberal democratic politics. Yet 
Gujarat is a troubling twist to this view.

If we allow that Bangalore represents a possible India, so too does 
Gujarat. Contrary to some views, Gujarat is not an `aberration' – it 
would be foolish to try to reassure ourselves in this way. For many 
it represents the first step in the creation of a Hindu rashtra, and 
what is happening there shows that economic development seems to be 
entirely compatible with extremist politics.

India seems on the face of it poised between such choices. On the one 
hand, there is a shrink-wrap, software-package India, where `brain 
arbitrage' is the new spice trade and where India is a global brand 
name advertising the world's electronic `back office'. On the other, 
there is a self-inflated, venomous redefinition of India in terms of 
the ideology of Hindutva – where, with mobile phone in one hand and 
trishul in the other, we see modern technology and medieval weapons 
turned to lethal ends. A choice between India as Brand Software or as 
Brand Saffron, between the promise of Bangalore and the threat of 
Gujarat.

And yet the alternatives are in fact more complicated and especially 
since 11 September 2001, the calculus of choice must be more nuanced. 
We need to examine the nature and stakes of this choice, a political 
choice, since there is one to be made. It has of late become 

[Goanet]Astrology- A pseudo-science

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:16:36 +0530
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Astrology- A pseudo-science

In his book “Flim Flam”, the well-known American conjuror James Randi recounted
how as a young man he briefly got the astrology job on a Montreal newspaper,
making up the horoscopes under the name ‘Zo-ran’. His method was to cut out the
forecasts from old astrology magazines, shuffle them in a hat, distribute them
at random among the 12 zodiacal signs and print the results. This was very
successful of course, because all the predictions were working on the "Barnum
principle", of saying things so vague and general that all readers would think
that it applied to them.

Belief in astrology has become so widespread that many able, highly
distinguished and intellectual people today indulge in it. There are many who
wish to live in a world governed by fantasy and mystical wonder; where the tall
and wild claims of astrologers are generally accepted as the unchallengeable
truth. Excessive attention to ‘Astrology’ is one of the superstitions that is
hurting India very badly. The continued uncritical dissemination of
astrological charts, forecasts and horoscopes has contributed to the growth of
irrationalism and obscurantism. 

To qualify as a scientific theory, an idea has to be logically consistent, both
internally (all of its claims must be consistent with each other) and
externally (unless there are good reasons, it must be consistent with theories
which are already known to be valid and true). Astrology fails on this score.
Neither its basic assumptions nor its predictions conform to the rigorous
discipline that science demands. So much of what is claimed about astrology
contradicts what is already known and proven in physics. The “twinkling stars”
tell us nothing. Astrology is nothing but hogwash and superstition.

As William Shakespeare states in “King Lear” in his inimitable style: ``This is
the excellent foppery of the world, that when we are sick in fortune -often the
surfeits of our own behaviour - we make guilty of our disasters the sun, the
moon and stars; as if we were villains on necessity; fools by heavenly
compulsion; knaves, thieves and traitors by spherical predominance; drunkards,
liars and adulterers by an enforced obedience of planetary influence; and all
that we are evil in by a divine thrusting on – an admirable evasion of
whoremaster man to lay his goatish disposition on the charge of a star!''

If we allow ourselves to be overrun by dangerous superstitions, society faces a
most dangerous plight. A society engulfed in superstition is a detriment to
itself. The time has come to challenge directly and forcefully this pretentious
science of "Astrology". The bunkum must be separated from the reality!

Sandeep Heble
Panaji-Goa


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[Goanet]Portugal ruled Indian state for 4-1/2 centuries (Washington Times)

[Frederick Noronha (FN)]

Portugal ruled Indian state for 4-1/2 centuries   
   
 
>From combined dispatches  

Portugal has been an independent country since the 12th century, when,
following the Crusades, it succeeded in expelling the Moors - Muslims who
had invaded the Iberian Peninsula from North Africa centuries before. Soon
it captured a foothold at Ceuta on the African side of the Strait of
Gibraltar, and others on the west coast of Africa, from which Portugal
sought a passage to Asia and its wealth of spices, gold and silk.

Vasco da Gama (1460-1524) was the first European to round Africa's Cape of
Good Hope, leading a naval expedition from the South Atlantic to the Indian
Ocean in 1497 and stopping at trading ports in East Africa. The Muslims were
not happy to see European ships in their trade areas, but there was strong
rivalry among Arab-controlled ports and the Portuguese were not harmed. From
Kenya, da Gama's squadron took on a famous Arab navigator who guided the
Portuguese ships all the way to the west coast of India, which was then
divided among many rulers.

The Portuguese reached Calicut (now Kozhikode, on the Malabar coast in
present-day Kerala state), in May 1498, where the Hindu ruler was initially
pleased to meet da Gama and his men. But the Indians refused to trade after
seeing the paltry goods the Portuguese had brought, and the Europeans sailed
for home in August with instructions to bring gold, silver, coral and red
cloth if they wanted to barter. The trip home to Portugal took more than a
year because many of the sailors died of scurvy, but da Gama was greeted as
a hero in Lisbon where the king rewarded him lavishly.

Da Gama set out on his second expedition in February 1502 with 20 armed
ships and bent on revenge. En route, the Portuguese ruthlessly killed many
Muslims and Indians. When they reached Calicut at the end of October, its
ruler was willing to deal but da Gama's flotilla bombarded the city and
seized it. This facilitated subsequent Portuguese conquests in the East
Indies, and da Gama returned to Lisbon the following year.

On his last voyage to India, da Gama died of illness on Christmas Eve 1524,
and his remains were returned to Portugal for burial.

Goa, about 300 miles north of Calicut, was an ancient Hindu city that was
conquered by Muslim invaders in 1312 and had changed hands several times. It
surrendered without a fight to the Portuguese explorer Afonso de Albuquerque
in 1510, but was besieged by a Muslim army for several months that year
before the Portuguese escaped in their ships.

De Albuquerque returned to Goa with a larger force late the same year,
massacred the Muslims and appointed a Hindu governor.

Goa became the first Portuguese territory in Asia, and for four and a half
centuries it was the administrative center of Lisbon's empire in the Far
East. Except for temporary occupations by European rivals in the 19th
century, the small province remained Portuguese until December 1961, when it
was occupied by Indian military forces and incorporated into the Indian
union the following year.
   
 

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[Goanet]What does this mean in plain English? FN

[Frederick Noronha (FN)]

Environ Pollut 1990;67(4)

Effect of lead, mercury and cadmium on a sulphate-reducing bacterium.

Loka Bharathi PA, Sathe V, Chandramohan D

National Institute of Oceanography, Dona Paula, Goa-403004, India.

A sulphate-reducing bacterial strain isolated from the south-west coast of India resembling
Desulfosarcina in its physiology was tested for its behaviour towards HgCl(2), CdSO(4) and
Pb(NO(3))(2). The order of toxicity to growth of these metal salts in a lactate-based medium
at 50 microg ml(-1) concentrations was [Formula: see text] and to respiration [Formula: see
text]. Inhibitory concentrations (viz. 100 microg ml(-1) of HgCl(2) and 200 microg ml(-1) of
Pb(NO(3)(2)) had a stimulatory effect when the substrate was changed to acetate. With sodium
acetate at 0.1% concentration, Hg and Pb had maximum stimulatory effect for growth and
sulphide production. Experiments conducted directly with sediment slurries amended with
lactate showed that all three metals (at levels below their inhibitory concentrations, i.e.
50 microg ml(-1) of metal salt for Cd and Hg and 100 microg ml(-1) for Pb) inhibited
sulphate-reducing activity (SRA) with Pb decreasing the peak production by 68%. The order of
toxicity in both lactate and acetate-amended slurry was [Formula: see text], respectively.
With acetate, SRA in the presence of Cd and Hg was stimulated 110% and 27%, respectively. Pb
inhibited SRA by 11%. There is a general reduction in the inhibition of sulphide production
in slurries as compared with pure culture of the isolate.

PMID: 15092207[PM]

 




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RE: [Goanet]COMMENT: The Press we deserve

[Joe Vaz]

The best gift Goans can give to Goa is their “voice.”  The general public 
seldom ventures to voice their concerns or grievances via the print media.   
This is primarily the job of journalists and the press.

Having said that, times have changed, and the new electronic media provides 
for a wider, quicker and perhaps easier avenue for the public to express its 
views.  Albeit, access to the PC/email is required; fortunately, email is 
now available in Goa, in cyber cafés, -- for as low as Rs. 10 per hour.

Interested individuals should form a “team” and, along with the 
collaborative yet cooperative effort of local journalists, must periodically 
review and critique the performance of the Government.  They can even go the 
extra mile and forward potential concerns and/or grievances directly via 
emails to those in responsible positions in Government.

Mass emails to the elected representatives, in addition to publishing the 
text in local dailies will capture the attention of the Government, and keep 
them alert to public opinion.  Invariably, the “Press” plays a crucial role 
in keeping the Government in check, however, lack of will and certain amount 
of bias from the press (in playing favourites,) has eroded its reputation.

Joe Vaz

PS: Thanks Fred, for your well written post.



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From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 14:31:28 +0530 (IST)
The Press we deserve

"People  get  the  Press they deserve."  At  first  glance,  this argument
might seem very unfair on the reader. It implies that those responsible for
building the Press can dish out just about any quality and content, and then
turn around and blame it on the reader.  But, there's some element of truth
in the above assertion
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[Goanet]Vote For Shri Ani Shrimati Lokxai Ani Dhormatit Raj (Fr. Thomas Lobo)

[lino dourado]

V.Ixtt-achea Upkaran 24vi Abril 2004 

Vote For Shri Ani Shrimati Lokxai Ani Dhormatit Raj

Amcho Bharot ek rong-birongi des, zantunt
vegllea-vegllea bhasancho, Sonskrutaiancho,
Dhormancho, Zatincho lok jieta. Xekddeam pottim, hea
desacho lok maie-mogan ani xantin jieun aileat.
Ekamekachea sukha-dukhant vantto gheun veglleponnant
ekchar (unity in diversity) tannim dakholl kelo. Oslem
Bharotachem chitr ollkhun, jen’na Bharot desak suttka
mell’li, ten’na Bharotachea fuddareamni ek Ghottnna
(Constitution) ghoddun haddli. He ghottnnent, sogllea
bharoti nagrikank tanche odhikar ani hok’k spoxtt kele
ani vegllea-vegllea lokank ap-aple bhaxen jieunk
sompeponn dilem. 

Dusrem, Bharotachem raj mhollear Lokxai (Democracy).
Apleak zai toslo sorkar nivddun kaddunk lokxaient
lokak odhikar asa. Lokxaient, rajkarbhar
choloiteleamni lokxaieche nem’ samballunk zai.
Bezababdarponnan ani zulumxaien odhikar choloiteleak
lokxaient zago na ani osleak tache sodrevelo denvounk
lokak hok’k asa. 

Tisrem, Bharot ek dhormatit (Secular) raxttr. Hea
raxttrant jietolea vegllea-vegllea dhormachea lokank
ap- aplo dhorm jieunk ani porgottunk sompeponn disun
ieta. Sabar dhormanche lok zaitoch kall ekvottan ani
sovostkaien choltat ani ho zaun asa ek dhormik
daizacho obhiman. Bharotachem dhormatit soimb ani
dhormatit totvam samballunk dor eka raxttrik pokxan
pott’tiddken vavurchi nibel goroz. Rajkoronnak
mon’xamni ap-apleach dhormachea mon’xanchi seva korop
ani dusrea dhormanchea mon’xam sovem pokxpat korop
(discrimination) tem hea dhormatit rajeant sobona. Tem
raxttrik ghottnnecher add vochun guneanvkari zata.

Halinchea vorsamni amchea Bharotant dhormant
poromporavadi (fundamentalist) ani dhormvadi
(fanatics) vaddleat ani chodda promannan Bharotio
Janta Pokx sorkar sodrer ailoleak te odikuch vaddleat
oso arop kel’lo asa. Hea aropant zaitench sot asa.
Tor, aiz poromporavadi ani dhormvadi pongodd zoxe
Raxttrio Svoimsevak Songh (RSS), Bajrang Dal, Vixv
Hindu Parishad (VHP) BJP sorkaracho palov gheun ani
tache khustar aplim svarthi chintnam ani manddnneo
sadounk tozvit kortat ani zor’ran vavurtat. Oslea
pongddak lagun aiz amchea desant dhorma modem
uchambollai ani goir-somoz vaddla ani vegllea-vegllea
dhormachea mon’xam modem ixttagotiche sombond dil
zaleat. Hea sondorbhant amchea Goem Dhormprantant
halinch zal’le Gonvllik Porixoden aplo husko
porgottla. Porixodecho dakhlo 26“(Ponn halinchea
kallant bodol dista) ho husko disun ieta. Toxench
dakhlo 27 asa tantunt ho husko dista (“Oso Goeant
xekdde. zaun asa “).

Voilea dakhleamni distolo husko os’sol zaun asa.
Dhormachea nanvan aiz kaim Hindu poromporavadi amchea
desant ani Goeant olpsonkhecher (minorities)
ot’teachar kortana distat. Olpsonkhecho lok
choloitelea sonsthancho labh ghetat, tanchea
iskolamni, Kolejimni aple bhurgea-ballank xikxonn
ditat tanchea hospitalamni ilaz ghetat, adi. ani
olpsonkhechem boreponn melloun tancheruch bodmas zaun,
tancheruch hol’lo kortat. Oxem halinchea disamni
kristanv toxench musolman bhav-bhoinnancher hindu
dhormvadeamni dhormachea nanvan ot’teachar kel’le asat
ani je meren atancho sorkar tankam pattimbo dita te
meren te ot’teachar chaluch urtele.

Amchea Goenchea dhormik ani rajkornnik mollar ami
nodor marum-ia. 1991che lokgontte pormonnem Goenche
porje modem 64.68 ttoke Hindu, 29.86 ttoke Kristanv
ani sumar 5.25 ttoke musolman asat. “Tum omkea
dhormacho, hanv tumkea dhormacho “- oslo bhed- bhav
korinastana hea tinui dhormacho lok ekuch somudai
zal’le porim itlim vorsam ixttagotin jieun aila.
 
Ekamekachea suvalleamni toxench dhormik, somajik,
kuttumbik ani sonskrutik somorombhamni tannim vantto
ghetla ani ghet asat. Amchea Goeant sogllea lokam
modem aslolo dhormik sumell (religious harmony)
polleun, raxttrik toxench pordexi lok amchi toknnai
korta. Ponn halinchea vorsamni ani odik korun BJP
sorkar Goencho rajkarbar cholounk laglelean, amche
modem futt ghalun aplim svarthi chintnam fuddem
vhorunk kaim dhormvadi utpon’n zal’le asat ani amchea
fuddareachem tankam besanv ani fattboll asa. Tea bhair
Goencho Mukhel Montri Xri Monohar Parikar RSS-acho ek
niz vangddi ani alaxiro divpi. Tacheach fuddariponna
khal choltolo sorkar olpsonkhe sovem pokxapat adarta
ani aplo dhormvadit vichar-dhara (ideology) pormonnem
cholteleank sorkari nokreo ani unchle zage favo korta.

 RSS-acho dhorm palltteleank Pulis Khateant zage diun
olpsonkhecher oneai kortat. Dhormachea nanvan, dusrea
dhormachea mon’xanchim dhormik bhavnnam dukhoun
sod’deacho BJP-cho zodd sorkar raj choloita. Ani zorui
tor BJP bhoumotamni nivddun ieun, dusrea pokxancho
adar nastana sorkar cholounk laglo zalear,
olpsonkhechea lokak amchea desant ani Goeant anik
fuddar aschona. Thodde dis pattim Parrikar Mukhel
Montrean, Goem rajeant 30 ttoke motdarancho ankddo
olpsonkhecho astana-i BJP sorkar Vidhan Sobhecheo
Vechunnuko jikhun ailo oxem eke zomatint sanglem. 

Khorem mhollear, BJP-ik zor Goeant ievpak ani raj
choloupak sond mell’li zalear ti fokot lokak hea
sorkaracher visvas aslo mhonn nhoi, ponn Kongr

[Goanet]COMMENT: The Press we deserve

[Frederick Noronha (FN)]

The Press we deserve

"People  get  the  Press they deserve."  At  first  glance,  this argument
might seem very unfair on the reader. It implies that those responsible for
building the Press can dish out just about any quality and content, and then
turn around and blame it on the reader.  But, there's some element of truth
in the above assertion.

The  media  --  including the Press,  important  given  that  the electronic
media is still in a nascent stage in Goa, unlike in bigger States -- are
vital institutions to any society.  At one level, it is a business. But it
is surely more than that.  It remains a tool through which a society defines
and expresses its voice, its aspirations, its hopes and its goals.

By  building a shared perspective of what are the  priorities  of our State,
or how (in)efficient those governing us are, we are jointly defining how we
wish to shape our society.  The media plays a crucial role in sharing -- or
neglecting to share -- information that can make a vital difference in
forging our tomorrows.  It is too important an institution to be left in the
hands of a few dozen professionals. More so, in a small state like Goa, the
media needs to be actively shaped by the wider society around it. Yet how
many of us actually take the trouble to contribute our bit to making the
newspapers we read even more reflective of Goa and all her people?

In the 1990s, a World Bank survey asked thousands of the  poorest of the
poor to identify the biggest hurdle to their advancement.  Above even food
and shelter, the number one problem cited was access to a "voice". Medium
and smaller newspapers still offer another channel for such a purpose.
Surely, society needs to plan ahead to find its voice through such
institutions.

Politicians  understand  how things work. Over  three  days,  one political
aide put in a couple of phone calls to voice grievances or queries over the
points made in editorials. You can expect a senior official to send back a
message saying a critical-sounding editorial "seems to have been written
somewhat in a hurry".  Not so long ago, a section of Goa's journalists were
stung to find themselves being hit back by a series of official
'clarifications' which, they felt, sought to obfuscate the issue rather than
state the facts.

There have also been those politicians who are quick to jump-upon anyone
writing anything they seem damaging their interests.  Through a mix of
rumour and allegation, some have tried to tarnish reputations.  There are
times when politicians of conflicting shades think those sections of the
media which exercises its critical faculties have sold out to the 'other
side'.

On the contrary, the average reader lacks the desired  pro-active nature.
Often, readers seem reluctant to buy the logic that they have a right to
shape their paper. There may be a handful of individuals who are quick to
make a point by writing in often; but this is not enough. Feedback, whether
negative or even positive, can be slow in coming.  This being ineffective in
ensuring that papers continue to better serve Goa's interest to the best.

We have argued in the past about the pressing need to "give Goa a voice". 
But unless we have more diverse individuals taught and encouraged to make
their point in print (in our case), the process of sharing ideas and opinion
formation will never quite be complete. One best gift anyone could make to
the place they care for, is to create a pool of people who can write on the
issues that matter, to focus on the good, and to critique the harmful.

At  the end of the day, unless society is more active in  shaping the Press
it deserves, it will have to remain content in accepting the Press it gets.
For our part, newspapers need to work hard to offer a diversity of voices
and multiplicity of views. In times when technology further expands the
reach of the international media, building local content is a critical task. 
If man does not live by bread alone, newspaper readers probably need more
than just a diet largely of political statements.  Critical points of view
and a culture of dissident is something that could help a society get ahead
too. Can our readers help us to do our job better?

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Re: [Goanet]An obvious fraud

[Seb dc]

I really wonder how this got past the Admin-Team. Sachin is right!
goanetters don't fall for this fraud.

Seb

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Subject: [Goanet]An obvious fraud


| I hope no one on this list will fall for this obvious fraud.
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Re: [Goanet]goa voting

[Eugene Correia]

--- Tony Luis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For the record
> 
> Willy has NO son and could not have obtained one
> during the election
> campaign
> So this allegation is FALSE
>
Inadvertently wrote son instead of son-in-law. my
apologies.

eugene




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Re: [Goanet]Re: AN APPEAL TO FELLOW NETTERS

[Seb dc]

26th April, all our votes go to Congress.
--- airesrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Netters,
>
> On 26th April people of Goa should come out in big
> numbers and vote  for the
> Congress - NCP alliance candidates Dr Wilfred D'
> Souza in the North and Mr.
> Churchill Alemao in South Goa to  ensure that
> communal harmony in Goa is
> preserved at all costs by not allowing the divisive
> and fascist elements of
> the BJP, RSS and Bajrang Dal to destroy our state.
>
> Goans should stand united and not split the anti BJP
> vote by voting the
> fringe parties like the UGDP, which would only
> indirectly benefit the BJP.
> Dear Netters please  call your friends and family
> and request them to vote
>
> In North Goa - Dr Wilfred D' Souza - symbol is CLOCK
>
> In South Goa - Mr. Churchill Alemao - symbol is HAND
>
> With best regards,
>
> Aires Rodrigues
> Ribandar
===
| On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:33:26 -0700 (PDT), milind sulse
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| wrote:
|
| I totally DISAGREE to this appeal. In Last 3 years, see the development
done in
| Goa. See the financial conditions of Govt. treasure. See the new Projects
coming
| up in Goa.
|


Probably you are partially right. but then you have been brain washed by
BJP/RSS combined. Though changes are taking place for the better, should
they be against with wishes of the citizens. Government should provide basic
amenities first, and then think of developments with active & transparent
plans for the people fo goa.

Have you heard of the attacks on the churches in goa & bias towards the
minorities. These things never took place under previous government. IT
takes place now, SO MY FRIEND THE APPEAL. It is good for the country, only
cause of the evil designs that BJP, RSS, VHP & Bajrang Dal follow, who are
communal to the core.

I totally agree with this appeal. come what may, goa needs to be saved from
this evil designs of the combine lot.

On 26th April, May God give GOANS the courage to Vote & elect the Right
Candidate.

Seb



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