[Goanet-news]GOANET READER -- Colonial cousins, Goa's northern counterpart
## # Don't just read the news... discuss it. Learn more about Goa via Goanet# # Goanet is a 10-year-old network launched by Herman Carneiro in 1994. # # See all archives http://news.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/ # # To join, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask to join GoanetDigest. # ## COLONIAL COUSINS: GOA'S FORGOTTEN COUNTERPART FROM THE 'NORTH' By Frederick Noronha fred at bytesforall.org For many of our generation, Bassein surely would be a remote place, hardly heard of in today's Goa. Bassein is barely 50 kilometres north of Bombay. But what's its relevance in history? How does it's history link up with that of Goa? Are these two just random regions along the west coast of India? Or did their historic relevance have something to do with their importance in Europe-Asian relations in the early days of the inter-continental encounter? Once Portuguese power grew in the North Konkan, Bassein became known as the chief city of the 'north' (a Corte do Norte). In the latter half of the sixteenth century, Bassein's jurisdiction extended over the entire coast from Damaun to Caranja. Someone called it a land brimful of history. Damaun itself, at one point of colonial history, had four districts under it -- Sanjan, Dahanu, Tarapur and Mahim. Bassein had seven -- Asheri, Manor, Thana, Salcete, Bombay, Belapur and Caranja. These districts comprised of two thousand villages with luxurious gardens yielding much produce. A new coffee-table, light-reading book titled 'Bassein: The Portuguese Interlude' (2004, Mumbai) authored by historian Dr Teresa Albuquerque teresalb at vsnl.com throws up a lot of light on this seemingly-remote (and, from Goa's perspectively, largely forgotten) region. Albuquerque explains the importance in her preface: When Bombay was still an insignificant fishing village, Bassein was the proud capital of the Portuguese province of the North, a focal point of commerce along the international trade route. Bassein and its surroundings played a major role in global history. This North Konkan region -- with ports like Kalyan, Thana, Chaul and Sopara -- had trade links with ancient Egypt, Phoenicia and Babylon. Solomon's legendary Ophir, mentioned in the Bible, is probably Sopara, today a disused port on the outskirts of modern Bassein. Paulo Varela Gomes, many in Goa would remember him as the suave and articulate Delegate in India of Fundacao Oriente, also adds to the background in his foreward, which incidentally was written in 1998. This gives a hint that the book, like many related to Goa and Indo-Portuguese history, took quite some time to get published. Comments Varela Gomes: This book is the first on Bassein (Bacaim) which is really worth calling a monograph. Scholars and enlightened tourists have been writing about the city for over a century. But there was no comprehensive history of the old city. Bassein had a history of maritime trade and agricultural production. It also became a great entrepot, a ship-building centre, and more. Bassein is known for its excellent black basalt rock, as fine and hard as granite, and of ancient volcanic origin. The Portuguese had targeted Diu; but took Bassein on the way in 1534 from Bahadur Shah. (Diu was then the prime emporium of trade in India, Persia and Arabia.) Centuries later, they bartered it away to the Marathas, to save their hold on Goa. Arabs and Persian traders and refugees established settlements along the Thana coast, around 640 AD, centuries before what Albuquerque terms the Brahmin influx. Bassein's is not just a story of one small pocket of land. Nor is it just a story of early European colonialism (and Portuguese colonialism) in India. Dr Albuquerque has been in this field for long enough to realise the need to situate this story of a small place into the wider context of global history. We get hints of how western coastal India was a happy hunting ground for early European colonial powers. Portugal was the first of the European power to make its presence felt along the Indian coast. Its intentions were less to set up factories and conquer land, and more to dominate the crucial sea-lanes that then controlled global trade. But, there were other dramatis personnae too. Portugal was itself subjugated by Spain from 1581 to 1640. Brazil played a role indirectly; its opening up meant lesser Portuguese emphasis on the western Indian coast. The Dutch had their own goals; they conquered the Portuguese strong-holds of Malacca and Ceylon, and laid a prolonged seize of Goa. Then, in 1609, the English arrived. In 1579, an English Jesuit priest believed to be the first Englishman in India, Thomas Stevens, had written to his father who was a
Re: [Goanet]Leave Kuwait,...?? Are you...??
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Elton bab, I stand and salute the one who wrote this article. Thanks for this lovely forward to GoaNet Lino *** Leave Kuwait, and miss the Houmos and Mutabel and all the Vaasta you built up, are you kidding?.. Most people I know here came to Kuwait, the Promised Land, for maximum two years, or to make enough money' and go back home.Countless Felafel and Shawerma sandwich years later, they are all still here, grayed quite a bit, but very much here. Kuwait is like that. One starts off earnestly in a job, wants to work hard (and hopefully continues to do so). You share an apartment with some kind folks (who pass on Sambhar and Chutney to you on bad days, on the good they pass on some fried Zubaidi). You begin to get comfortable with the non-iron bedsheets and Jamaiyas laden with easy to serve yogurt and long life milk.By then your status has risen back home because you work in this oil-rich, highest per capita income Wonderland. Ma beckons from home that they have found a nice, homely girl for you. So you rent your own one bedroom apartment, put out few cheap Banta chairs, and blend in some Ikea As Is furniture just for it to not look so cheap. Few Friday market visits later, your house and heart are ready to receive the new bride. If winter is here can spring be far behind? Stacks of Pampers (whatever would young mothers do without them?) appear in the by now crowded home. The patter of tiny feet, Cartoon Network, pushchairs and colic occupy your waking and sleeping hours. The MBA you well intended is long forgotten with the stress of how to ask the boss for a raise, now that your child will start playschool, and you can't cope with the installments for your new place back home. The raise never comes, or if it does it is too meager to write home about.The luckier ones find fresh opportunities and move up the economic ladder, but never out of Kuwait. You upgrade your car and home, and generally grow to be a part of Kuwait, or rather Kuwait like a sandy desert spirit becomes ingrained into you, and fourth and fifth ring roads become your best weekend hangouts. Just because it seems the in thing to do, you apply for migration to a western country, knowing full well in your heart that you may never be able to start a new life in another strange land. The taxation everywhere else hurts. So do the residence fees here, but can you leave Kuwait? The general view was that once the health insurance was levied, there would be an influx of expats fleeing Kuwait. No one I know has left for those reasons. Leave Kuwait, and miss the Houmos and Mutabel and all the Vaasta you built up, are you kidding? Life goes on, with bodies and souls flirting in and out of The Sultan Center, Souk Sharq, Caesar's Restaurants, all the new new malls that have sprung up like mushrooms, and hey don't forget Edee Stores. Soon one Thursday blends into another (another weekend, so quickly?) and next thing you know you are boarding a flight to drop your son or daughter to University. Time has flown, and you and your friends of yesteryears still meet occasionally, and discuss who has grayed more, and who's cholesterol is threatening. The whole pointof who made enough money but never returned home is never brought up. Endless weekend dinners, get togethers, beach picnics, potlucks and problems, growing up pains, career ups and downs, friends who are like family, birthdays and anniversaries, visit visas and residences later, Kuwait is home. Source Unknown Terminology : Houmos and Mutabel - Arabic Food Vaasta - Influence Zubaidi - Pomfrets Felafel and Shawerma - Arabic Sandwiches Jamaiyas - Shops/Co-operative Society's Ikea - Product Brand = http://www.goa-world.net/poems http://www.goa-world.net/poems/lino __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
[Goanet]Why men should not marray
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ## # If Why men should not marry. All the older guys I know, guys that are 55 and older are telling me the same story; don't do it. It just turns to crap no matter what you do. They'd rather be independent. At best it's a tedious bore. At worst a living hell with financial ruin thrown in for good measure. The problem is that when you're young, you just naturally fall into this mind set where your whole self image is based on how women regard you, and so you spend all your money and energy trying to make yourself acceptable to them. Then later in life the shine wears off and you finally realize that you've wasted yourself on a bunch of crap. Nowadays it might be more profitable to become a priest instead, especially if you are posted in Goa. :-) regards, Samir
[Goanet]Re: WHERE ARE YOU HIDING MARIA RODRIGUES
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Interesting, How did you find out whether Maria is HE or SHE? Remember Remo's song Maria Pittache?... ...Or is this Wendell effect??? Lapit Hi Aires, I don't think your above conclusion is warrnated or valid. In fact, if you're searching for Maria, I'm pretty certain he's not there! FN http://www.goa-world.net/poems http://www.goa-world.net/poems/lino
[Goanet]MOLESTATION CASE: UNCLE OF VICTIM WITHDRAWS PAL TO FAST
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I have yesterday successfully prevailed upon Mr. Anthony Frois, uncle of the 13 year old girl allegedly molested by Ribandar Parish Priest Fr. Newton Rodrigues not to go on his scheduled hunger strike. Mr. Frois was to sit on a hunger strike on Saturday 9th October before the residence of Chief Minister at Althinho in protest against the Goa Police for dragging its feet in the investigations of the molestation case. In an hour-long meeting with Mr. Frois yesterday in the presence of seniors from the village, I appealed to Mr. Frois that the police be given time to complete its investigations and charge sheet the Parish Priest as undertaken by the Police in the High Court on 16th September. Admitting with Mr. Frois that the parish priest's conduct had tarnished the name of the village I expressed confidence that the sacrifices made by the Ribandar parishioners would bring justice to parishioners across Goa who may be facing such acts of sexual exploitation. It was also agreed that immediate action should be taken against those who are pressuring the victim and her mother to hush up the matter by withdrawing their complaint against the parish priest. There is no denying that the charge of molestation registered against Fr. Newton Rodrigues is of a very serious nature especially in view of the fact that the victim is a minor girl and that the Parish Priest had allegedly committed the offence in the Church premises and that the law does not discriminate on the social status of the offender. Aires Rodrigues Ribandar
Re: [Goanet]Church of Christ and Latter Day saints
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Hi Vivian, I cant remember who told me this but I too have heard that Mormons do document every person they can get hold of - its something to do with their beliefs or a kind of proselytizing. But before they do that they convert them (posthumously of course) to a Mormon. So many Americans who cant find their records and are thrilled to finally locate them in these Mormon records are not always happy to find that their ancestors are now converted Mormons. Is there any truth to this? Helga Followers of the Mormon church, are wonderful people, who eschew all stimulants including alcohol, drugs, coffee, tea and chocolate. They believe in having strong family lives, and treat the human body as a temple of Christ to be cared and looked after. As part of their beliefs, church members do extensive genealogical searches and retrocactovely convert and baptise their ancestors as Mormons, going back as far as they can. They are acknowledged to have the best
[Goanet]All Football Lovers
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Hi Guys, For all football lovers on the goanet. Watch this amazing guy. He is unbelievable. http://video.premiumtv.co.uk/rangersfc/video/mrwoo_hi.wmv Rex
[Goanet]Re: ENDORSEMENT RELEASE (National Wildlife Week, October
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## On the Occasion of Willdlife week in India;pointers to Goa. Seby. Dear Mr. Saldhana, Thanks for your e-mail. Please include in the letter bio-degradation of the Goa landscape and the waters which is threatening wildlife and lowering the potential of the Peoples of Goa. We at NEST ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) held a series of conferences in February 2004 and had discussed on Neurological deseases affecting the humans which have direct bearing on Environment. We had also discussed about the threat to the Western Ghats Forest due to iron ore and Manganese mining within the territory of Goa. We also touched on the potential of the Dudhasagar waterfalls for hydro-electric power generation as well as for the irrigation of the farms. We have been sensitive to the plight of the villagers inhabiting the lowlying areas of the waterfalls. The forest reserves of this tiny territory and it's ecological balance of the land and the water; and the plants and animal settlement is being disturbed. Tourism is one of the main industries of this place. If look at the canary islands in the Southern atlantics, although tourism has brought prosperity to those islands, these islands have been subjected to natural climate change. Although we in Goa feel such things like rainstorms, unseasonal rains, cyclones and tornados, drying up of some of our rivers, these may be the warning signs of the greater danger that may befall us in this tiny territory.we may be sitting on Powder keg if we ignore this deliberate ignorance of the life processes which is true even for this small territory Goa as it is true for the Upper reaches of the Indo-Gangetic plains. I suspect therefore although we have good rains this year as compared to last year, the water table of this region is drying up. And we may have to take corrective measures with human ingenuinity to bring water table to a level which can sustain life, and therfore correct some of the imbalances in the degraded landscapes and human, plant and animal settlements. This is the task for all of us; to highlight to the ministry of Environment and Forest. On behalf of NEST we wish to inform you of our 8th annual NEST conference on Indigenous People to be held at Social development Cenre, Ranchi, Jharkhand from 16-18 November 2004. You are invited to participate in the same and present the paper. Formal invitation will posted to you shortly. Dr.Rajendra B. Kenkre, MD.FRS Neurologist ESG India S2L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ENDORSEMENT RELEASE National Wildlife Week, October 2-8, 2004 WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT CONTINUING TO 'CLEAR' CRITICAL WILDLIFE HABITATS? OPEN LETTER TO THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS In commemoration of National Wildlife Week, it has become ritualistic for Government agencies to organise a variety of events. One hopes that the commitments renewed and the new commitments made would be lived through in the weeks and months that follow, and the country's wildlife populations would be more secure. Recent decisions of the Ministry of Environment and Forests, and thereby those of all agencies connected with its decisions, however, hardly give us the confidence that the country is adopting a mature and progressive policy on wildlife protection. Instead we are confronted with expedient decisions that aim to support industrial development at any cost, excellent biodiversity enclaves are threatened with interference by such developments, and in some cases large scale submergence by dams, and the involvement of public at large is considerably weakened by pursuing policies that make agencies stronger and their decisions increasingly in-transparent. Keeping this in view, it has become imperative for groups and individuals across the country to come together to make a strong statement on how our wildlife protection laws and policies are simply being wished away by the very actions of the State. Highlighting significant concerns a letter addressing many problems and weaknesses in the system of decision making, and its implications to wildlife populations and their habitats has been sent to the Union Ministry of Environment and Forests and is enclosed. We request you to kindly endorse this letter and send a copy to the Union Ministry of Environment and Forests. Please mark a copy to Neeraj Vagholikar of Kalpavriksh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for archiving and follow up requirements. Your effort would help pressurize the Ministry to genuinely reform its ongoing thoughtless programme of decimating wildlife habitats, even as it continues to ignore the excellent range of expertise
[Goanet]Re: AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP (THOUGHT FOR TODAY) Oct. 2, 2004!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Munis aplea kanam poros dolleank unnem patieta. (Men trust their ears less than their eyes.) Some Error??? Should it be this way.. Munis aplea kanam poros dolleank unnem patieta. (Men trust their eyes less than their ears.)
[Goanet]Church of Christ and Latter Day saints
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## It is no surprise to those who are familiar with the Church of Christ and Latter Day Saints who are commonly known as the Mormons, that they would have extensive genealogical records that also go back as far as church records in Goa. Followers of the Mormon church, are wonderful people, who eschew all stimulants including alcohol, drugs, coffee, tea and chocolate. They believe in having strong family lives, and treat the human body as a temple of Christ to be cared and looked after. As part of their beliefs, church members do extensive genealogical searches and retrocactovely convert and baptise their ancestors as Mormons, going back as far as they can. They are acknowledged to have the best genealogical records in the USA. When Mormon youngsters reach a certain age (18 I believe) they give a year or two of their lives to become missionaries for their faith, trying to convince others to join their ranks. If one rigidly follows the dictates of the church, which also requires tithing or giving 10 percent of one's income to the church, one is set for life, as the community looks after their own when someone loses his job etc. They are truly nice people, who have suffered a great deal of discrimination in the USA a couple of centuries or so ago. I will not be surprised to learn that some Goans have become Mormons, which would account for their interest in genealogical records in Goa.
Re: [Goanet]Dabolim Airport Parliamentary Question
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## The Dabolim situation is imperalism of the 21st century by india. Just as the US holds Cuba by it throat with the economic blockade and its ideas of invading that country. B. Colaço A follow up to this response should consist of enquiring which of the airports listed, besides Dabolim, are controlled by the Navy. Perhaps Vishakhapatnam and possibly Jamnagar. Also what exactly is the Navy using the Dabolim airport for (subject of course to security considerations). ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Goans in East Africa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:49 PM Subject: [Goanet]Goans in East Africa I read the article about the early years of the British in East Africa. Obviously of interest to me was mention of the role of Indians in the time period and specially that of Goans. I was disappointed to read only a 1-2 line reference of their contribution. Perhaps this report was written before the Goans and other Indians arrived in significant numbers. RESPONSE: The same author wrote about Goans in Kenya - perhaps that would fit the bill. I have found it difficult to buy a copy for my friends. I bought one years ago. cheers, Gabe.
[Goanet]The Nairobi Institute ............. Goan Overseas Associations
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## 00 It is my pleasure to circulate this message to The World Goan Organisations , this is being done at the request of Peter Braganza , the General Sec.of The Nairobi Institute , Nairobi , Kenya. www.nicentenary.com rene barreto 00 1st October 2004 Goan Overseas Associations Dear All, RE: CENTENARY MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE ELECTED IN NAIROBI KENYA. At the 99thAnnual General Meeting of the Nairobi Institute (formerly The Goan Institute) concluded on 15thSeptember 2004, the following were elected as Office Bearers for the Management Committee 2004/2005 (Centenary Year). Chairman Mr. Vincent Azavedo Vice-Chairman Mr. Tony Gomes Hon. General Secretary Mr. Peter Braganza Hon. Treasurer Mr. Colin Carneiro Hon. Asst. Secretary Mr. Abhijeet Sarkar Hon. Asst. Treasurer Bar Mr. Rolen Braganza Hon. Asst. Treasurer Subscriptions Mr. Brian D'Souza Hon. Asst. Treasurer Catering Ms. Maria D'Souza Hon. Secretary for Sports Mr. Ian Rebello Hon. Secretary for Socials Mr. Santano Fernandes Secretary for Dramatics Mr. Jack Fernandes Secretary for Buildings and Grounds Mr. Peter D'Costa Committee Members Mr. Tony (A.P.) D'Costa Mr. Joe Pereira Mr. Maurice Vaz Mr. V.M. (Manu) Carvalho Mr. Karim Shamshudin Chief Internal Auditor Yours sincerely, Peter Braganza Hon. General Secretary For The Nairobi Institute , P.o. Box 40197,00100 GPO Nairobi, Kenya. Tel: 25426761043. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.nicentenary.com
Re: [Goanet]Fatima, Portugal, Rome...
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## There is no truth in the story. It originated in a Fatima catholic conservative organisation from Canada, who not only protested against the religious ceremonies held at the Fatima (Portuigal) Sanctuary by the Dalai Lama and later by a Hindu Swami, but even demanded the banning of three or four cardinals based in Rome because of such overtures to other religions. There was no pressure at all from the Vatican upon the Bishops' Conference of Portugal (the President of which is presently the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon) for the ousting of the Rector of that Sanctuary and the replacement of the Bishop of Leiria-Fatima. And, in fact, that Sanctuary being a Portuguese national institution, there was no way how the Vatican could take possession of it. It would create a diplomatic issue between two sovereign states. Jorge - Original Message - From: Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:47 PM Subject: [Goanet]Fatima, Portugal, Rome... Could someone in Portugal tell us if there has been any development on this front? FN http://www.the-news.net/ A newspaper report published this week states that the Vatican is one step away from assuming full control of Portugal's holiest religious site. While no official measures have been taken, the Correio da Manha~ (CM) newspaper on Wednesday alleges the Vatican's disapproval of the Dalai Lama and a Hindu priest praying at the Fa'tima Sanctuary on two separate occasions to be at the centre of Rome's reported intentions for Fa'tima. But Portuguese clergymen have been swift in their response to these reports, arguing either that they are false, or that the Vatican gave its blessing for the interfaith gatherings, or that financially-powerful international groups are responsible for these reports
[Goanet]Goans in East Africa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I read the article about the early years of the British in East Africa. Obviously of interest to me was mention of the role of Indians in the time period and specially that of Goans. I was disappointed to read only a 1-2 line reference of their contribution. Perhaps this report was written before the Goans and other Indians arrived in significant numbers. Can someone quote from some authoritative source the contributions of Goans and Indians to British East Africa? I am not seeking solitary examples or anecdotal cases but rather a systematic study of the Goan contributions; and British appreciation of that contribution if any. Thanks PS. On my trip of South Africa, I managed to find / purchase two books (written about 100 years ago) on S. African wild life with left-hand pages written in Afrikaner and the opposite-pages in English. The pictures were blank squares and were filled in from pictures obtained from cigarette packets sold in that period. Interesting win-win situation where I presume the sale of the books was tied to cigarette sales.
[Goanet]Tracing ancestors... and Goa church records
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## By happenstance I stumbled across this link, http://users.rootsweb.com/~indwgw/FIBIS/LDSGoa.htm and was amazed to find that the Church of the Latter Day Saints had records even from a number of parishes in Goa, mainly from the 20th century right upto the 1990s. Check this out! Vaguely recall this being mentioned on Goanet earlier. Did Eddie Fernandes put out the link? The Latter Day Saints seem to have some specific beliefs which make even genealogy software programs treat them as a separate category, needing additional software functionality. So, I guess they have some interest in keeping track of church records in Goa too. Incidentally, I don't yet know how to access these records online. But it would be very interesting. -FN -- Frederick Noronha (FN) Nr Convent Saligao 403511 Goa India Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronhahttp://fn-floss.notlong.com =
Re: [Goanet]No development unless you are with BJP?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## WHO will make it on the 13th ? Congress or BJP ? ... maybe BJP will. rene - Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:44 AM Subject: [Goanet]No development unless you are with BJP? BJP, Cong leaders step up efforts to woo Poinguinim voters NT News Service
[Goanet]GOAN THEATRES TO GET LOANS, SUBSIDY
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## GOAN THEATRES TO GET LOANS, SUBSIDY: In view of the forthcoming International Film Festival of India, the State government has okayed subsidy and interest-free loan scheme to the cinema houses in the State to provide financial aid for upgradation of facilities in cinema houses in the state. (NT) GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS Oct 06, 2004 The above news made me wonder, whether Mr. Parrikar is now trying to dangle carrots before Mr.Harish Zantye, the MLA from Bicholim so as to soften him to join the Lotus wagon. Parrikar is very well aware that two of his saffron brigades from Vasco and Mandrem will be disqualified soon. And now the Poinguinim too does not show much sun-shine with Isidore as their candidate. Hence this is yet another trick to 'chaska-maska' Zantye with such loans and subsidies. Btw, Does the general public benefit by this interest-free loans ?? - Alfonso Bond Braganza
[Goanet]Questions for you.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## There are the 2 very simple questions for you. Don't think or worry too much about it. 1. What do you call a mouse with two legs? Make a guess BEFORE u look for the answer. Did you get it? - if not, never mind try the second question) 2. What do you call a duck with two legs? Test your thinking. 3. This is an authentic psychological test. It is a story about a girl. While at the funeral of her mother, she met a man whom she did not know. She thought he was amazing, her dream guy, and she fell in love with him but never asked for his number and could not find him after the funeral. A few days later the girl killed her sister. Question: What was her motive in killing her sister? Give this some thought before you ANSWER. Answer for question 1. Mickey Mouse. THE ANSWERS 4 REST WILL BE FOLLOWED NXT DAY. Take Care ~~~ Luv n Regards *~#~Jyotiba @ Bantu~#~* * Parents' healthy food confusion * Many parents struggle to know which foods are healthy for their children, a survey shows. Full story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/-/1/hi/health/3694842.stm
[Goanet]Admin: MIME, non-plaintext postings
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[Goanet]No development unless you are with BJP?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## BJP, Cong leaders step up efforts to woo Poinguinim voters NT News Service Poinguinim Oct 5: Power Minister, Mr Digambar Kamat and Health Minister, Dr Suresh Amonkar along with local leaders visited the areas of Partagall, Sadolxem, Welwadda in Poinguinim and urged the villagers to vote for the Bharatiya Janata Party for stable governance in the state. During their door-to-door visits, these leaders also explained to the locals the development of Poinguinim was the reason behind Mr Isidore Fernandes leaving the Congress party and joining the BJP. Meanwhile, the Poinguinim Congress block president, Mr Janardhan Bandari and Curtorim MLA, Mr Francisco Sardinha met the voters of Loliem-Pollem, Shellim and urged them to vote for Congress candidate, Mr Jagdish Acharya. Mr Churchill Alemao, South Goa MP also held door-to-door visits and urged the locals to vote for the Congress. Ponda MLA, Mr Ravi Naik, who has been selected as a Congress party observer for Maharashtra elections also visited the areas of Kolsor, Galgibaga along with Mr Girish Chodankar, Youth Congress president and appealed to the constituents to vote for the Congress. RESPONSE: This takes me back to Singapore when there was a sole opposition member Jayerrathnam ( I think was his name) His constituency was neglected by the Govt. as punishment for them not voting for the Ruling Party. Now can some one from Goa kindly inform us whether this is true, also of Goa? Cheers, Gabe.
[Goanet]Goa, If you find cheaper let me know!!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## London - Gatwick Updated: 05 Oct 04 11:34AM £309 selected dates15 Oct 04 - 30 Oct 04 Benz Travel Telephone Booking
[Goanet]Leave Kuwait,...?? Are you...??
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Leave Kuwait, and miss the Houmos and Mutabel and all the Vaasta you built up, are you kidding?.. Most people I know here came to Kuwait, the Promised Land, for maximum two years, or to make enough money' and go back home. Countless Felafel and Shawerma sandwich years later, they are all still here, grayed quite a bit, but very much here. Kuwait is like that. One starts off earnestly in a job, wants to work hard (and hopefully continues to do so). You share an apartment with some kind folks (who pass on Sambhar and Chutney to you on bad days, on the good they pass on some fried Zubaidi). You begin to get comfortable with the non-iron bedsheets and Jamaiyas laden with easy to serve yogurt and long life milk. By then your status has risen back home because you work in this oil-rich, highest per capita income Wonderland. Ma beckons from home that they have found a nice, homely girl for you. So you rent your own one bedroom apartment, put out few cheap Banta chairs, and blend in some Ikea As Is furniture just for it to not look so cheap. Few Friday market visits later, your house and heart are ready to receive the new bride. If winter is here can spring be far behind? Stacks of Pampers (whatever would young mothers do without them?) appear in the by now crowded home. The patter of tiny feet, Cartoon Network, pushchairs and colic occupy your waking and sleeping hours. The MBA you well intended is long forgotten with the stress of how to ask the boss for a raise, now that your child will start playschool, and you can't cope with the installments for your new place back home. The raise never comes, or if it does it is too meager to write home about. The luckier ones find fresh opportunities and move up the economic ladder, but never out of Kuwait. You upgrade your car and home, and generally grow to be a part of Kuwait, or rather Kuwait like a sandy desert spirit becomes ingrained into you, and fourth and fifth ring roads become your best weekend hangouts. Just because it seems the in thing to do, you apply for migration to a western country, knowing full well in your heart that you may never be able to start a new life in another strange land. The taxation everywhere else hurts. So do the residence fees here, but can you leave Kuwait? The general view was that once the health insurance was levied, there would be an influx of expats fleeing Kuwait. No one I know has left for those reasons. Leave Kuwait, and miss the Houmos and Mutabel and all the Vaasta you built up, are you kidding? Life goes on, with bodies and souls flirting in and out of The Sultan Center, Souk Sharq, Caesar's Restaurants, all the new new malls that have sprung up like mushrooms, and hey don't forget Edee Stores. Soon one Thursday blends into another (another weekend, so quickly?) and next thing you know you are boarding a flight to drop your son or daughter to University. Time has flown, and you and your friends of yesteryears still meet occasionally, and discuss who has grayed more, and who's cholesterol is threatening. The whole pointof who made enough money but never returned home is never brought up. Endless weekend dinners, get togethers, beach picnics, potlucks and problems, growing up pains, career ups and downs, friends who are like family, birthdays and anniversaries, visit visas and residences later, Kuwait is home. Source Unknown Terminology : Houmos and Mutabel - Arabic Food Vaasta - Influence Zubaidi - Pomfrets Felafel and Shawerma - Arabic Sandwiches Jamaiyas - Shops/Co-operative Society's Ikea - Product Brand
[Goanet]About blacklisted banks
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Friends, I received this forwarded email message from a friend I know in India this morning: quote According to DSP Merrill Lynch' latest report the following Banks have been blacklisted. 1) Karnataka Bank 2) Laxmi Vilas Bank 3) Citi Union Bank 4) Dhanalaxmi Bank 5) Karur Vyasya Bank 6) Bank of Punjab 7) Development Credit Bank 8) Federal Bank 9) Lord Krishna Bank This report is following Global Trust Bank and South Indian Bank's collapse. GTB merged with OBC but it is assumed problems will remain for depositors for atleast next 2 Yrs. IDBI and Kotak Mahindra bank are also found weak but after IDBI bank's merger with IDBI nothing to worry. Kotak Mahindra Bank already has support from the entire Kotak Mahindra Group, so no need to worry. Look Business India's latest issue for detail coverage and ranks of Indian banks.. So if you have account with these banks, you know what to do and please make sure you forward this to your friends and relatives... unquote Is this an email forwarding gimmick or a factual email. Could someone update me or verify the facts of this article in a brief reply, Elton
[Goanet]Voip - How to call US at Rs 1.60 per minute
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Can someone confirm if the internet calling cards are retailed in Goa and where they can be purchased. thanks Lawrie Baga/Kuwait = == Men are like steel: when they lose their temper, they lose their worth. ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Navhind..........school drop outs.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Easy money luring beach-belt school students Joaquim Fernandes Panaji Oct 6: Poverty as well as affluence are causing students to drop out of schools along the Calangute tourist belt. The poor children, mostly of immigrants, take up jobs in hotels, shacks, supermarkets and other commercial establishments. The late-night hours take a toll on their health and they finally drop out of school. The children of the nouveau rich, especially of those who run shacks, guesthouses or hotels are simply too distracted or too bored with studies. Despite the kind of work their parents put in, the feeling among them is explained as, if money is so easy to get, who needs to study?. It is some consolation that many children from both these categories end up in the open schools run by the government or NGOs. First, the have-nots. It is common for students, mostly of poor immigrants, to take up jobs as waiters, dish-washers, supermarket attendants, apprentice mechanics, etc, either to supplement their parent's meagre income or to substitute for an alcoholic father. According to the headmistress of Mark Fernandes Memorial High School, Calangute, Ms Flavia D'Souza, these students work well past midnight in the hotels or shacks but still attend school the next morning. They are unable to concentrate in class due to lack of sleep and some even complain of headaches, she said. Having experienced the heady feel of money, many drop out of school to earn money full-time, said Ms D'Souza, adding that last year itself, about eight students left the school and many of these were reported to have taken up jobs. On the other side of the drop-out crowd are the children of the newly affluent. According to a senior teacher from the Little Flower of Jesus, Calangute, many children of people owning guesthouses, shacks and other such tourism-related businesses are too enamoured of their foreign guests' bohemian lifestyles. In one season, their families make lakhs of rupees. I could not make that in my entire 15 years of service, said the teacher. She said with this easy money, comes motorcycles, mobile phones, flashy clothes, rings on the ears of young boys, who all want to ape the tourists. So aggrieved was the teacher, that she was moved to say: At least as far as our school is concerned, tourism, television and the Internet are not a blessing but a curse for today's children. The headmistress of Little Flower said around five students dropped out of the school last year. The headmaster of St Joseph's High School, Arpora, Mr Tomazinho Cardozo, says it is difficult to tell the exact number of students who actually drop out of school. Earlier, it was presumed that those who do not collect their leaving certificates had dropped out. But now students collect their leaving certificates saying they want to join another school. They then go and take up jobs and this is only known when other students inform the management. Last year alone, Mr Cardozo had requests from 17 students who wanted to leave the school. He advised them that to at least go to the government open school in Parra. Mr Cardozo says another reason why children in rural schools tend to drop out is because they have difficulty in coping with studies. In the open schools, they have to take only four subjects of their choice and may leave out difficult subjects like maths. Despite the perceived disparity in academic content, the SSCE certificate of open schools is equivalent to the SSCE certificate of normal schools. According to Mr Cardozo, more and more students are flocking to the open schools, such that in another five years, they may threaten the existence of the normal schools.
Re: [Goanet]Fatima, Portugal, Rome...
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Hindu Gujarati culture is today flourishing in Portugal. Just a week ago a Gujarati hindu wedding was presented on one of the channels of Portuguese national TV. The host of the show were dresssed with a sari and red dot (female) and kurta(male). Intricacies of the wedding were discussed, the bride performed some kind bollywood fusion dance to the tune of Lata Mangeshcara and the bridegroom stood like Rajesh Khanna huming the tune of Julie my heart is beating and only beating... Just a week before a kathak group performed on TV, as an introduction to later perform in one of the theatres of Porto. As for Fátima the shrine may be changed into a hindu temple since bhots have been invited to perform puja. Gujaratis in large numbers in Portugal have been visiting this sacred place. And the bishop and the rector of the shrine may get a kick on their back sides (for the bhot ponn). B. Colaço Could someone in Portugal tell us if there has been any development on this front? FN http://www.the-news.net/ A newspaper report published this week states that the Vatican is one step away from assuming full control of Portugal's holiest religious site. While no official measures have been taken, the Correio da Manha~ (CM) newspaper on Wednesday alleges the Vatican's disapproval of the Dalai Lama and a Hindu priest praying at the Fa'tima Sanctuary on two separate occasions to be at the centre of Rome's reported intentions for Fa'tima. But Portuguese clergymen have been swift in their response to these reports, arguing either that they are false, or that the Vatican gave its blessing for the interfaith gatherings, or that financially-powerful international groups are responsible for these reports ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Fw: [Goanet]East Africa remembered.......
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Original Message - From: cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Havovy Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet]East Africa remembered... Desmond, Regarding the Man Eaters of Tsavo (Patterson, 1904), I feel that it will be of much particular interest to many Indians from East Africa to find out something about Roshan's lengthy Hindi poem as reported in one of your recent book-throve findings. As a youngster, I had travelled a lot on the railway between Mombasa and Nairobi and well beyond. Tsavo had a special fascination for me as I had read Patterson quite early on at school. When the train stopped at Tsavo station, around midnight, I struggled to keep awake and peer into absolute darkness (but for the fire flies), mentally living the historical period and imagining the ghosts of the maneaters in the vicinity. Much later, I drove through these areas on some pretty rough roads and was invariably stopped around Voi, by a particular 'rogue' elephant who seemed to get much pleasure in keeping the few cars stopped on the road for about fifteen minutes at a time before trumpeting and running off into the bush, only to hide and await his next car to repeat his pranks! Even then however, I had felt that Patterson took virtually all the credit for killing the maneaters when so many Indians helped in many ways, and especially, in erecting the special platforms upon which Patterson crouched for his rifle shots at the beasts. Needless to say, many Indian workers were killed by these particular lions which took a liking for human flesh and very deviously attacked people by even getting into the train compartments at Tsavo station. If Roshan's Hindi poem can be located, or anyone knows what happened to it, I would be most interested to follow his version of events. Of interest too would be the often rumoured account that a couple of Goans were also involved in eliminating the maneaters in Tsavo. By way of interest, a close relative of mine from Carmona, Goa, worked for the emerging administration in Nairobi before the East African railway line was completed. He told me personally, that he had been recruited by the Indian Railways in Bombay. To get to Mombasa from Goa, the passage was initially by dhow sailed by Arab seamen via Aden. Then, he and his party travelled by foot and on donkeys all the way from Mombasa to Nairobi, a distance of 330 miles. At night, they slept fitfully in a circle of fire built from brushwood and tree branches. The journey took them about twelve days at the time. I hope some Goanetters can throw more light, through oral history, on the early period in East Africa where our forefathers contributed so much to the initial development of Kenya and neighbouring countries and little of which has been published as yet. Cornel - Original Message - From: Havovy Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet]East Africa remembered
[Goanet]Halur Rasho's gender
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## George Pinto: I know Fred is trying to expand Goanet and add new members. Is this the first transgender member of Goanet? In 2014 will we be celebrating the 10 year anniversary of the first transgender member of Goanet? --- Dear George, Please check whether Halur Rasho's gender has been ascertained anywhere in his / her postings. I think he / she will take the prize for being completely gender free. Cecil
[Goanet]GOANETREADER -- Colonial cousins, Goa's northern counterpart
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## COLONIAL COUSINS: GOA'S FORGOTTEN COUNTERPART FROM THE 'NORTH' By Frederick Noronha fred at bytesforall.org For many of our generation, Bassein surely would be a remote place, hardly heard of in today's Goa. Bassein is barely 50 kilometres north of Bombay. But what's its relevance in history? How does it's history link up with that of Goa? Are these two just random regions along the west coast of India? Or did their historic relevance have something to do with their importance in Europe-Asian relations in the early days of the inter-continental encounter? Once Portuguese power grew in the North Konkan, Bassein became known as the chief city of the 'north' (a Corte do Norte). In the latter half of the sixteenth century, Bassein's jurisdiction extended over the entire coast from Damaun to Caranja. Someone called it a land brimful of history. Damaun itself, at one point of colonial history, had four districts under it -- Sanjan, Dahanu, Tarapur and Mahim. Bassein had seven -- Asheri, Manor, Thana, Salcete, Bombay, Belapur and Caranja. These districts comprised of two thousand villages with luxurious gardens yielding much produce. A new coffee-table, light-reading book titled 'Bassein: The Portuguese Interlude' (2004, Mumbai) authored by historian Dr Teresa Albuquerque teresalb at vsnl.com throws up a lot of light on this seemingly-remote (and, from Goa's perspectively, largely forgotten) region. Albuquerque explains the importance in her preface: When Bombay was still an insignificant fishing village, Bassein was the proud capital of the Portuguese province of the North, a focal point of commerce along the international trade route. Bassein and its surroundings played a major role in global history. This North Konkan region -- with ports like Kalyan, Thana, Chaul and Sopara -- had trade links with ancient Egypt, Phoenicia and Babylon. Solomon's legendary Ophir, mentioned in the Bible, is probably Sopara, today a disused port on the outskirts of modern Bassein. Paulo Varela Gomes, many in Goa would remember him as the suave and articulate Delegate in India of Fundacao Oriente, also adds to the background in his foreward, which incidentally was written in 1998. This gives a hint that the book, like many related to Goa and Indo-Portuguese history, took quite some time to get published. Comments Varela Gomes: This book is the first on Bassein (Bacaim) which is really worth calling a monograph. Scholars and enlightened tourists have been writing about the city for over a century. But there was no comprehensive history of the old city. Bassein had a history of maritime trade and agricultural production. It also became a great entrepot, a ship-building centre, and more. Bassein is known for its excellent black basalt rock, as fine and hard as granite, and of ancient volcanic origin. The Portuguese had targeted Diu; but took Bassein on the way in 1534 from Bahadur Shah. (Diu was then the prime emporium of trade in India, Persia and Arabia.) Centuries later, they bartered it away to the Marathas, to save their hold on Goa. Arabs and Persian traders and refugees established settlements along the Thana coast, around 640 AD, centuries before what Albuquerque terms the Brahmin influx. Bassein's is not just a story of one small pocket of land. Nor is it just a story of early European colonialism (and Portuguese colonialism) in India. Dr Albuquerque has been in this field for long enough to realise the need to situate this story of a small place into the wider context of global history. We get hints of how western coastal India was a happy hunting ground for early European colonial powers. Portugal was the first of the European power to make its presence felt along the Indian coast. Its intentions were less to set up factories and conquer land, and more to dominate the crucial sea-lanes that then controlled global trade. But, there were other dramatis personnae too. Portugal was itself subjugated by Spain from 1581 to 1640. Brazil played a role indirectly; its opening up meant lesser Portuguese emphasis on the western Indian coast. The Dutch had their own goals; they conquered the Portuguese strong-holds of Malacca and Ceylon, and laid a prolonged seize of Goa. Then, in 1609, the English arrived. In 1579, an English Jesuit priest believed to be the first Englishman in India, Thomas Stevens, had written to his father who was a merchant in London and had pointed to the distinct possibility for Indian trade
[Goanet]No lesson learnt from Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## No lesson learnt from Goa ASHLEY D'MELLO/TIMES NEWS NETWORK Events have come a full circle in the Anchorage case. This, however, could have happened earlier had the authorities learnt from the Freddy Peats case in Goa. Peats, an old man who ran a house for poor and orphan boys in a flat in South Goa, was sentenced to 20 years for sexual assault on children. This was the first case of a paedophile being convicted in India. Yet, when Peats was arrested in 1991, Goans refused to believe that he could be guilty. But as the case unfolded in the next few months, the Goan public watched in horror as it became clear that Peats, who was of Anglo-German descent, was part of an international network of child abusers who had been active in the state for years. Citizens' groups in Goa took up the case against Peats but the case kept dragging on till Mumbai-based social activist Sheela Barse pushed the police to present clinching evidence in the case. What made Freddy Peats operate in Goa for so many years before he was caught? The beach culture in Goa is fairly liberal and even though there might have been whispers that all was not well with the scores of boys at Freddy Peats shelter there was no concrete proof. There is also a strong tourism lobby with its own vested interest in playing down such incidents in the beach areas. In a small state where tourism is the second largest industry and the largest employer the clout of the tourism lobby is considerable. Added to this was the fact that not all journalists were willing to print Barse's accusations that Goa was fast becoming home to several international rings of paedophiles. Some journalists were even accused by their peers of making mountains out of molehills. When this correspondent accompanied several other journalists on police raid parties on the beach den of a suspected paedophiles, he found the suspect answering questions with brash confidence. ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]Re: WHERE ARE YOU HIDING MARIA RODRIGUES
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## If one reads the Mumbai newssheets like Mid-day or Afternoon Despatch and Courier ( www. cybernoon.com)...one sometimes comes across the name of a senior officer..(.methinks he`s the equivalent of Commissioner of the Central Railway Police.) called Rakesh Maria...now there`s no namby-pamby ( or trans-sexual -person) ! senior - Original Message - From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 1:21 PM Subject: [Goanet]Re: WHERE ARE YOU HIDING MARIA RODRIGUES ## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Aires Rodrigues wrote: The source of mischief and frustrated attempts to create conflicts is apparently the keyboard of the Ribandar Church computer What better place than a church to commit mischief. It's a short walk to the confessional. The people of Ribandar cannot be taken for a ride, not even in cyberworld. In some church fairs they have merry-go-rounds, giant (ferris) wheels, etc. Maybe those rides are being offered and this whole controversy rests on a simple confusion. --- Frederick Noronha(FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Aires, I don't think your above conclusion is warrnated or valid. In fact, if you're searching for Maria, I'm pretty certain he's not there! I know Fred is trying to expand Goanet and add new members. Is this the first transgender member of Goanet? In 2014 will we be celebrating the 10 year anniversary of the first transgender member of Goanet? Regards, George
[Goanet]06 OCT 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS Oct 06, 2004 THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Munis aplea kanam poros dolleank unnem patieta. (Men trust their ears less than their eyes.) domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] GOACOM VIDEO NEWS http://www.goacom.com/news Clips Release of GrooveA video clip on the release of a new lifestyle magazine Groove in English, on October 1. Edited by Ethel da Costa and published by Marathi daily Tarun Bharat, the new publication will be a supplement of the Marathi daily every Sunday. The magazine was released at the hands of Wendell Rodricks. WHAT'S NEW: Check Sports pictures of Sub-Juniors National Football tournament at http://www.goacom.com/goanow/whatsnew.htm JOINT INDO-US NAVAL EXERCISES BEGIN: The five-day Indo-US joint naval exercises got off to a rousing start off Goa coast in the Arabian Sea on October 5 morning. The joint exercises code-named Malabar 2004 are part of the exchanges between India and US, and aim to protect maritime interests besides the anti-terrorism aspect. The US navy ships USS Cowpens and nuclear submarine USS Alexandria and Indian navy ships INS Brahmaputra, INS Mysore, submarine INS Shankul and oil tanker INS Aditya moved in tandem while the aircrafts took off from the ships in a sequence. (H) GOAN THEATRES TO GET LOANS, SUBSIDY: In view of the forthcoming International Film Festival of India, the State government has okayed subsidy and interest-free loan scheme to the cinema houses in the State to provide financial aid for upgradation of facilities in cinema houses in the state. (NT) GROWING ATROCITIES ANGER WOMEN: Anger over the growing atrocities against women was clearly evident as women from different parts of Maharashtra, Daman, Delhi and Goa expressed their views at the All India Women's Conference, Western Zone Conference, hosted by the Goa Branch AIWC at the International Centre, Goa, on October 5. Adv Albertina Almeida spoke on the topic of atrocities against women in Goa. She said that though Goa has a high literacy rate and zero maternal mortality, unlawful practices like female infanticide and rapes are on the increase. Women are harassed from the womb to the tomb and what we need to find out at each stage is why this is happening, she added. (GT) SCHEME TO ADOPT AIDED SCHOOLS: At a meeting held on October 5, the Manohar Parrikar-led Cabinet approved a scheme to allow aided educational institutions/ managements to 'adopt' government primary and middle schools in a bid to prevent their closure for want of better management. The scheme is to be applicable to schools with less than 20 pupils and should be located in the vicinity of the institution seeking to adopt them. (H) DRUGS SEIZED: The anti-narcotics cell of the Goa police caught two persons red-handed while possessing two kg of charas worth Rs.2 lakh in the wee hours of October 5. The ANC accosted the Maruti car at Mesta campus building at Calangute-Arpora road and arrested Vinod Shabi Salgaonkar and Mahadev Mudaliyar both from Siolim, for illegally possessing drugs. (NT) VILLAGERS OPPOSE RIVERSIDE ORE LOADING TERMINUS: A proposal to set up a riverside ore loading terminus in the khazan area was opposed unanimously by the villagers of Neura on the ground that it would destroy agricultural land.The khazan land extending from Agassaim toe Neura and Mandur-Azossim to Carambolim, is one of the biggest expanses in Goa.The plant was earlier proposed to be set up at Xelvona, near Curchorem, but stalled by opposite from the locals. (GT) NO-TRUST MOTION AGAINST MMC CHIEF: Chairperson of the Mormugao Municipal Council who withdrew his resignation letter for the second time on October 5, seemed to have received a major set back with 13 councillors in the 20-member council moving a no-confidence motion against him. (H) 'RURAL WOMEN MUST BENEFIT': The Registrar of Goa University, Dr Jayant Budkuley, said that the strength of the country would mainly depend on the conditions of a large number of women residing in the rural areas, what science and technology can do for them and improvement in their life. Dr Budkuley was speaking at a three-day annual group monitoring workshop supported by the Department of Science and Technology, New Delhi, and Dhempe College of Art and Science at the International Centre on October 5. (NT) CASHEW FUTURES TRADING ON MCX PLATFORM: Multi Commodity Exchange of India Ltd has for the first time in the world launched trading of cashew traded on an online futures exchange. This would not only enable the Indian producers, processors and exporters to manage their price risk, but also facilitate the
