[Goanet]re: dubai soccer
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I think Borg hasn't understood my post fully. I appreciated his posting the reports, but I wanted the whole world to know that they are published reports from an established paper. Borg makes a mistake in applying the Konkani phrase to me. You must know when and in what context to quote Konkani phrases or sayings. Since Borg took the initiative in posting the reports, why would others want to do? Carry on the good work. By acknowledging the source, you are given credit to both the newspaper and the reporter. I gave Wilfred's name to show that it's a Goan who is covering the tournament. It's just extra information. Eugene __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Fw: Meeting of the Minds - LOK ULOITAT - FUDARI AIKTAT- A Goan Inititative to Empower the People.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Original Message - From: goasuraj To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:37 AM Subject: Meeting of the Minds - LOK ULOITAT - FUDARI AIKTAT- A Goan Inititative to Empower the People. November 12, 2004 To, The Editor, V. Ixtt. Via e-mail. Dear Sir, Subject: Meeting of the Minds - LOK ULOITAT- FUDARI AIKTAT You are well aware of the existence of the Goa Su-Raj Party. It was formed to correct and/or to help bring about a reformation in the inconsistencies and anti people agendas of the leading National as well as Regional political parties of Goa by giving teeth to the people, the voters, to have a say in the matter in their own governance. An initiative in this regard will take place at CARITAS, St. Inez, Panjim on 20th. November, 2004 from 4.00 to 6.30 P.M. wherein an absolute departure from the traditional public meetings will be observed by not having guest/star speakers but allowing the people from the audience to speak on pre-selected political topics for a duration that will be decided by the moderator to give equal time for all speakers. Therefore, it goes without saying that those persons who are interested and or eager to put up their view points must indicated their willingness to do so, so that a list may be drawn-up to allocate equal slots for all speakers. Time permitting, open slots shall be given to the members of the audience to put across their view points. This has not happened in Goa as far as our knowledge goes. It has been observed that political parties have had their own respective agendas. And these agendas are forced on the people whether they agree or not. Mostly, these agendas are secret and unwritten, wherein the people at large are innocently drawn into the web of the vicious circle without their knowing or being conscious about it by creating an artificial and/or made to order hype. Through this initiative at CARITAS, people will be able to give voice to their inner feelings so that the powers that be listen and be guided accordingly to draw-up their agendas. Per se every single citizen of the state is a law abider. Those who disobey the laws know that there are reprimands and punishments to be suffered. But still some do break the laws knowing that they will get away through the inconsistencies of the laws, rules and regulations and the manipulative exercises indulged into by the political class. Therefore, 90 to 95 percent of the people of the state, irrespective of their faiths, beliefs or political leanings, respect just laws. But the same people must have a voice in objecting to those laws which are highly unjust and manipulative in nature which get the sanctity of the rule of law through vested inclinations. The intelligence of the people, of individuals, gets trampled upon when leaders speak-up and build a make-believe world to entrap them in their own designs where they do not get a chance to voice their differences. By this initiative, which will reach each and every city, town and district of the State in its own time, will give a chance to the people to talk, where leaders shall listen to adapt themselves accordingly, to make legislations, laws and rules that are compatible with the general thinking. After all, we are in a democracy and everything is supposed to be happening as according to the wishes of the people. We shall thank you to project these views in your writings to apprise the people of Goa that such a thing is happening and it is to their own benefit and advantage that they voluntarily participate and be listened to. And, we have absolute faith that your good intentions will carry the day. Yours Sincerely, for Goa Su-Raj Party Sd/- (Dr. N.S. Dumo) Vice President (North) MEETING OF THE MINDS "LOK ULOITAT" Venue: CARITAS - St. Inez, Panjim. Saturday- 20/NOV/04 From 4.00 TO 6:30 P.M. No Guest Speakers Open to individuals on registration basis for allocating time slots. Open slots: time permitting only. TOPIC FOR THE PRESENTATION 1. Present Political Scenario in Goa 2. People's Agenda V/s Agenda of Political Parties. 3. Role of NGOs. 4. People's plan of Action for Political Parties. 5. Your commitment to make the system of governance people friendly. Presenter to submit written presentation (if possible) for moderator's reference. Call 2266111 or 9422060347 OR email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to register to speak (no fees) (Organised by: GSRP) Note: This message has been sent to all leading daily/weekly etc newspapers of Goa including national newspapers.
[Goanet]Being a Goan on Goanet
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Goanetters, The important issue about a debate on the Goanet should never be the debaters or their origin. The issue is the SUBJECT of the debate. As per the Goanet rules, the discussion should be either Goa* related ...or out. [* CONDITIONS APPLY. Charter flight fares are 'Goa-related' as the destination is Goa. Kerry v/s Bush debate is 'Goa related' as there are Goan adults with possible voting rights in USA. Karnataka Rajyotsav can been discussed as Samir lives in Bangalore and espouses legalization of prostitution in Goa from there ,etc,etc ;-( .] Vidyadhar Gadgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote [Should] any additional weightage whatsoever should be given to the > arguments of the party that is 'Goan'? > Cecil wrote:> > This is GoaNet so naturally being Goan is in one's favour. Or isn't it? -- > Question everything - Karl Marx Fred wrote earlier: > * The concept of being "Goan" is quite problematic, considering that what > is "Goan" is defined by (accident of) Portuguese conquest. > In Goa, we don't accept the poor migrant, but a Pratapsing Rane whose > family migrated from Rajputana land after the Portuguese, or a little > earlier, gets prompt acceptance as one of Goa's longest serving CMs. > * Since we all do not believe that man originated in Goa, it is obvious > that all of us migrated *into* Goa at some point of time. I don't subscribe to the view that those > controlling the comunidades in Goa were necessarily the *earliest > settlers* of these respective areas. The most dominant at one point of > time? Probably. > > These comments reflect my personal biases, and are not intended to pretend > to be the opinions of the Goanet Admin Team. > > I quite respect Helga and her forward-looking point of view, and she has > questioned Gadgil's interpretation of her comments. More so, when the debate was about the US Presidential elections. (Even if the debate was about Goa, the test would be who is more logical, and not > the background of the discussant.) For example, a Philip Thomas can and is > adding a lot of value to our debates, while a number of us so-called blue > blooded sons of the red soil of Goa continue to talk crap. > FN . Being Goan* [wrt the topic] should be in one's favour,shouldn't it? However, who constitutes a GOAN is itself debatable.;-)) and I am not in sync with what Fred wrote, either: * Unlike what Fred likes to believe, the Portuguese did not come to Goa [Gopakkapatna or Ilha de Goa ,actually] by 'accident': they were 'INVITED' to capture Goa by Admiral Thimmaiah[ or Timmayya or Tammaji Appa] of the Vijaynagar Kingdom. This is part of the official history books in post-Liberation Goa. *A migrant is not a 'Goan' just as a Goan who has migrated to Canada is not a Canadian or to UK is not a Brit. His or her GOA-BORN child is a native Goan. That is what the dictionary--and the law--says in most cases. As far as I know, Pratapsingh Rane was born in Goa and to Goan parents.No one knows where our ancestors came from. The "mesticos" and the "decendents" and children of Rusian, Armenian, German, etc parentage are also called Goans if they are Goa born. I have had them as childhood friends and acquaintances. e.g. Lucio Miranda's wife is a German but can anyone think of Ashok, Arun or Rahul as non-Goans...or even as mesticos? *Ask Vincente Correia Afonso what he has to say on this subject. Was Eden in Aden or in Europe? It could very well have been in Goa.Perhaps man evolved from Chimpanzees in Gondwana land while it was a part of Africa.before it shifted on the tectonic plates and became the Indian peninsula. the site of evolution could be Goa, a part of GONDWANA LAND. I am not with you in the exclusion of this possibility. * Communidades [ and the Gaunkari or Gaokari before them] are the associations of adult MALE descendents of MALE members of the landed class in Goa[ Something like the bhumihars of UP and Bihar]. That is not to say that they settled in Goa without their women[who technically are not 'gaokars'] OR THE SONS OF THEIR DAUGHTERS[ who are also non-Gaokars] e.g. My sons are gaunkars, but my sisters' sons are not...because my sisters are not gaunkars although their [and my] father was a gaunkar. The gaunkari or joneiro is a patrilineal male line only, Like it or lump it. That's it. *The sad episode of the unwarranted attack on Tariq would not have come about if the Goanet had stuck to its rules...and not got Kerried away into the bush ..by the Yankee doodle dandies.;-(
[Goanet]Re: JC finally beginning to make sense to Mr. Pinto & - GoaNet double standa...
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## In a message dated 11/11/2004 7:06:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder: Does Mr. Rangel-Ribeiro agree that HIS posts did NOT have a "screen name" besides [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? If So, Will he issue a retraction of that part (atleast) of what he wrote? or Will he use some standard excuse (I am not interested in unending debates) and just keep quiet now? Will he come with more unbalanced Kattor re Bhaji? Dear Dr. J. Colaco, All my posts go out under my own screen name, which is vrangelrib. Once they appear, I do not read them, because I know what they say---I promptly delete them. If goanet left out my screenname, it had nothing to do with me; and I did not notice it, since I deleted the message as soon as I saw it had been published. You asked at some point whether, since I had objected to public congratulations being extended on Goanet, I would also object to birthday messages and messages of condolence. Not one of the birthday greetings and messages of condolence that have appeared on Goanet over the years have included attacks on other people, living or dead; the post about Ben Antao being appointed president of a Canadian authors' group slammed other Goan writers, both named and unnamed, for not publicly congratulating him. I did not object to your congratulating Ben Antao on Goanet, or anybody else who felt like doing so; I objected to the demand that other Goan writers should also congratulate Ben in public, or face censure. Finally, you ask: "Will he come with more unbalanced Kattor re Bhaji?" Since I have not yet come up with any unbalanced Kattor re Bhaji, it would be difficult for me to come up with "more". Best regards, Victor
[Goanet]8-A-Side Ramadan Tournament Final
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## The semi finals of the 8-A-Side Ramadan Tournament being organized by Goan Overseas Association in down town Kuwait City which were scheduled to be held on Wednesday, were postponed due to lights disruption, and will now be played on Friday, 12th November 2004, along with the final. The program today is as follows:- 05:45pm Bombay Boys v/s Curtorcares (semi final) 06:30pm City Boys v/s Buffalo Soldiers (semi final) 7:00pm Navelim Y.C v/s Goa Maroons (Exhibition Match) 7:30pm Final The chief guest is Mr. Assumption D'Sa the founder member of Goan Overseas Association, who is celebrating his 75th birthday this week. Julio Cardoso / Kuwait
[Goanet]Re: On being a Goan
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Fred: You should be judging me on the basis of what I say, not on the basis of such considerations. Cecil: Apples and oranges. You cannot change your blood group or caste but you can change the colour of your underpants... Cecil, you have hidden behind humour and ducked Fred's question. Should one be judged on the basis of what one says, or on the basis of other considerations, though these considerations may be as different from each other as apples and oranges? Of course, Karl Marx quite rightly held that one should never judge people by what they say but by what they do, but since Goanet is all about saying (talking), we can let that pass. Cecil: This is the crux of the matter. Who calls themselves Goans? The crux indeed. I think Mervyn has already answered part of your question by pointing out that a person can have multiple, overlapping and intersecting identities. And these are not necessarily in conflict, why can't people consider themselves Goan and Bengali/Malayali/Portuguese/French/Tanzanian or whatever? What is the conflict betweent these identities? This question of allegiance is valid if the two entities are at war or something, then one might have to choose between the two identities. Meanwhile, why can't these identities happily co-exist? It's all a matter of allegiance. This 'allegiance' business is very worrisome. Next we'll be talking of having a kind of Tebbit test, so if a person cheers for Andhra Pradesh in a Goa-Andhra Pradesh Ranji trophy cricket match, that person stands condemned. Yes, allegiance in terms of looking out for the interests of the place one lives in is important. It is also plain common sense. There is a saying, which can be roughly paraphrased as "Do not sh-- in the plate from which you eat!" So of course all those who live in Goa should be concerned about the interests of Goa, and opposed to things which harm Goa. We Goans spend so much time debating who is Goan and being polite to non-Goans (on this matter) - most of whom identify themselves by their home State / Country Yes, people in Goa are by and large among the nicest, politest people I have met, but whether they are always sensitive to those whom they perceive as 'outsiders' is a question which would be firmly answered in the negative by any bunch of 'outsiders'. A little personal digression here. Over the years I have lived in various parts of India, but have spent substantial years in Madhya Pradesh, Bihar and Karnataka (apart from Maharashtra, where I was born and grew up). Yes, people everywhere suffer from this outsider/insider mentality (all human beings are firmly convinced that they and the group/s they belong to are superior to all others), but in Goa it does have a bit of a paranoid edge. The kind of bizarre remarks that I have heard here have simply been astounding! A number of times various people have said things to my face like "You outsiders are coming here and taking our jobs/homes/land/etc." By now I have a stock reply to this, "There are so many Goans in my 'home town' that there are no jobs/homes/land/etc. available for me there, so what to do?" This retort happens to have a certain amount of truth in it. I do not identify myself as a 'Maharashtrian', but it can be demonstrated with little difficulty that there are far more 'Goans' in Maharashtra (particularly in Bombay and Pune) than there are 'Maharashtrians' in Goa. Which brings me to something I have never really understood. One would expect that a community which has such a large and widespread diaspora would be particularly sensitive on this insider/outsider business; after all, nearly every 'Goan' I know has a close relative settled elsewhere in India or the world. But this is not the case; insensitivity and paranoia rules. If the Rane's or the migrant's proudly call themselves Goans then they will be accepted as such I think. Yes, I am willing to broadly accept this definition of 'Goan' -- those who call themselves as such! But the problem is that though I call myself a Goan, most 'Goans' call me an 'outsider'. It's those who still retain their native place as their identity who have no right to call themselves Goan. Why not? Multiple identities! Not 'or' but 'and'. Fred: * Since we all do not believe that man originated in Goa, it is obvious that all o
[Goanet]Re: The world dodged a bullet on Nov. 2
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## We weep for every one of our heroes, especially because they VOLUNTEERED to shed their blood to liberate others. This has always been America's contribution to world peace, throughout history. They instinctively understand that freedom is not free, which most others take for granted. So, please don't shed crocodile tears for our 1,200 heroes in Iraq unless you did the same for the well over a million Iraqis, Iranis and Kuwaitis that Saddam Hussein was responsible for killing. Our heroes have liberated 50 million Afghans and Iraqis, and Libya, where their leader was considered even worse than Saddam, has decided to join the civilized world. It took 4 to 7 years to pacify and democratize Japan and Germany and our troops protect them to this day. I always wonder whether there is some subliminal racism in play when people want to deny Muslims the same freedom and democracy that every one of us enjoys. Seb dc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don't know about the world dodging... but the thousand souls, that died earlier did weep on this day and for the ones joining them from present day Iraq. Really sad!
[Goanet]RIBANDAR MOLESTATION CASE: POLICE INSPECTOR GETS A DRESSING
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Goa Crime Branch Police Inspector Mrs. Ezilda D' Souza, investigating officer of the Ribandar Church molestation case has reportedly been sternly censured by top police bosses for intentionally delaying to file the chargesheet against Ribandar Parish priest Fr. Newton Rodrigues even though the investigation of the case was complete. She has been directed to file the targeted immediately and her request to relieve her from the case has been turned down and has been told that on taking oath as police officer she was bound to discharge her duties with responsibility, fairly and fearlessly. It may be recalled that Mrs. Ezilda D' Souza had at the fag end of the investigation reportedly sought a transfer from her current posting claiming that as a Roman Catholic and being also from Ribandar she did not have the moral courage to charge sheet the Parish Priest. The Old Goa Police station had on 18th August 2004 registered an F.I.R against Ribandar Parish Priest Fr. Newton Rodrigues based on a complaint from a 13 year old Ribandar girl that on the pretext of taking confession the Parish Priest Fr. Newton Rodrigues took her to a room in the church and molested her. The F.I.R against Ribandar Parish Priest Fr. Newton Rodrigues for offences under section 354 IPC (molestation) and section 8(2) of the Goa Children's Act, 2003 though registered at the Old Goa Police station the case was transferred to the Crime Branch at Dona Paula for further investigation. Crime Branch Police Inspector Ezilda D' Souza had in a statement before the Panaji bench of the Bombay High Court on 16th September submitted that the investigation of the alleged molestation case was at the last stage and that the charge sheet against Fr. Newton Rodrigues was being filed shortly. A contempt of Court petition now filed against Police Inspector Mrs. Ezilda D' Souza for not having complied with this undertaking is pending before the High Court. Meanwhile, fearing the embarrassment his impending chargesheeting may cause to the Catholic church especially in view of the forthcoming Exposition the accused priest Fr. Newton Rodrigues has reportedly been making hectic attempts by seeking help of top political leaders from various parties to try and hush up the matter. The accused Priest has also managed to get the victim and her mother to attempt to withdraw their complaint after two months of registering it but this has not been accepted by the top police officers who have decided that the matter should now be dealt by the courts in view of the fact that the victim is a minor and the investigation of the molestation case complete with statements of over 14 witnesses recorded.
[Goanet]Re: Americans emigrating to Canada
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## George, the fact remains that Sean will pay for your move to Canada should you want to go, and if you promise NOT to return. I'm sure he will also pay to shine your shoes as well. George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another falsehood from the radical right. Sean Hannity is NOT my friend. I would not let him polish my shoes. Regards, George
[Goanet]Re: The world dodged a bullet on Nov. 2
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I am on vacation right now so I don't have all the details. However, I remember some: 1. Iraq had no WMDs. All we know is that no stockpiles were found in Iraq. We do NOT have an accounting of the stockpiles Saddam admitted having in the ceasefire agreement of 1991. This is what the 17 UN resolutions over 12 years since 1991 were all about, culminating with UN resolution 1441. Look it up and see what it says. 2. Saddam had no links with al Qaeda. The 9/11 Commission report documented many close links. However, they did not find that Saddam had a hand in 9/11. Go to www.senate.gov and read the 9/11 Commission report. 3. During the recent election The Media Fund was running radio ads claiming that the Bush administration rounded up the Bin Laden family after 9/11 and flew them out of the country during the flight embargo so they could not be interrogated. This was being said in spite of the 9/11 Commission finding several months ago that these family members had been investigated by the FBI, had no ties to Bin Laden, and were flown out for their protection after the embargo was lifted. 4. There is a whole internet industry that has developed to debunk Michael Moore's lies. One URL that has documented over 35 deliberate distortions and falsehoods is www.farenheit_fact.blogspot.com, complete with sources and footnotes. There are several others listed on www.moorelies.com Tariq Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am still waiting to hear what are the "deliberate falsehoods" being talked about here. Please clarify with examples. -Tariq
[Goanet]Re: The world dodged a bullet on Nov. 2
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## They like to think of themselves as more educated an "progressive", which is why the Democrats chose a supercilious candidate like John Kerry, and they will continue to lose elections. If you look at the electoral map BY COUNTY you will see that it's NOT red states versus blue states but major urban centers versus everyone else. So maybe it will be a win-win situation. We don't need people with such attitudes and Canada will get people who think of themselves as more educated and progressive. Mervyn Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mario, Those pushing for Canada to accept the Americans from "Blue" states, ALWAYS point out that these Americans are the more educated and progressive components of the US population. Mervyn2.0
[Goanet][OFFTOPIC] TWNFeatures -- ROOT OF HIGH OIL PRICES
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: [Goanet][OFFTOPIC] TWNFeatures -- ROOT OF HIGH OIL PRICES Not a Goa-related posting, but I guess it could interest both economics-related Goanetters and those in the Gulf. FN -- Forwarded message -- ROOT OF HIGH OIL PRICES RESPONSE: If the rest of us Goanetters, start off our emails in the same vein as you have done, clarifying that it is not Goa/Goan related will that therefore give a carte blanche through pass? This is of course when one feels strongly about a certain subject! Cheers, Gabe.
[Goanet]London Goan's musings.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I attended the Merton Goans drop-in on Wednesday. This is a drop-in that takes place every Wednesday and the members are primarily seniors. Many had attended a recent funeral of a Goan and were informing me of the service. Quite a few were upset at the eulogy and sought my opinion. I sympathized with their feelings and confirmed to them that indeed, they had heard correctly as this eulogy was printed in London's premier Goan website. I was shocked when I read it. An eulogy is supposed to extol the virtues of the deceased; this piece published the deceased's failings - unfortunately this is in print and is now available to the whole wide World - When I go, I hope my survivors check the eulogy. It would be interesting though, if it was mentioned, ever loving husband of Lily, extremely fond of his Stella! Also heard about the function that they had attended on the Sunday. The priest who said the Mass was highly thought of, in the manner that he spoke. Almost everyone to a fault, described the food as diabolical, some wondering whether they should have been given a refund! Rice was grainy, fish had guts intact, miserly starters. I am stating this here and now to avert a glossy picture being painted about this function in the next issue of the GOA Newsletter. That's it for now, hope to keep you in touch with pulse of the Seniors. cheers, Gabe.
Re: [Goanet]Police dog
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Howi, Greeting reciprocated. This is highly appreciated. Floriano Lobo - Original Message - From: "Howi Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:13 PM Subject: [Goanet]Police dog > Alsatian was quite right, but German Shepherd Dog is simply the translation > for " Deutscher Schäferhund".(ä = ae). > > Greetings > > Howi >
[Goanet]Police dog
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## From: "Howi Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote:- To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:43 PM Subject: [Goanet]Police dog Alsatian was quite right, but German Shepherd Dog is simply the translation for " Deutscher Schäferhund".(ä = ae). Greetings Howi RESPONSE: I take it you are German or of German stock. Thank you for your translation and for correcting me. This being the case I take back my post of rebuttal to Floriano, Sorry ! Once again I eat humble crow! Cheers, Gabe.
Re: [Goanet]Ambedkar Awas Yojana
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Percy, Greetings from the 'Gift-Away Land' We Goans are a funny lot, aren't we? If the house and the property one has worked, sweated and died for was to be gifted away by some industrious crook called the Government one of these things would happen in these places: PUNJAB - a blood bath where they do not want to share even their water. W. BENGAL - Burning of public property like buses and Government offices. TAMIL NADU - Another Veerappan would arise to maim, kill and abduct. KASHMIR - Parliament house with the parliamentarians blown up to kingdom come. KERALA- Government ministers would be on permanent Yatra outside Kerala. GOA- Kneel down to say " PRAISE THE LORD" and put up a 'welcome to my house' banner. BTW in the "Meeting of the minds - LOK ULOITAT to be held at CARITAS on 20/Nov/04 (4 P.M.), John Philip Pereira, special attorney of the Comunidade of Nagoa (Verna) will speak on "Ambedkar Awas Yojana" and its disastrous consequences for Goans. Floriano Camot Lobo - Original Message - From: "percy ferrao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:26 PM Subject: [Goanet]Ambedkar Awas Yojana > When the politicians don't own the communidade land, are they right to gift it > to the landless (migrants & thier cronies)? Is the Governments policy of > maintaining low birth rate only for the Goans? And why do we Goans have to > sweat it out in distant lands in order to buy a piece of land or build a house > at astronomical rates ? This is a sinister move and daylight robbery by our > unscruplous politicians to garner vote banks and dilute the ethnic goan > people. The people of Curtorim and Pazarkone (Cuncolim) have rightly > demonstrated,isn't it time for the rest of us to demonstrate and get rid of > all these yojana's ? > > Percy Ferrao > Ealing Road >
[Goanet]Living in a what-if world
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Usenet newsgroups (the poor cousin of the web, once very active... now quite neglected) actually has a group called soc.history.what-if Given the small but vocal number of Goanetters who prefer to live in a what-if world, perhaps this group would be of interest to some denizens of cyberspace who are linked to our part of the world. The guys at what-if are speculating on how history could indeed have been *very* different, if only certain events had taken place differently. On it, I found 303 references to Goa (some false positives, not remotely related to Goa as we know it BTW is/was there a "city of Goa on the Niger river"? Some site seems to call it Kawkaw or "modern-day Goa".) But while speculating, they seem to have a rather keen understanding of global history, and can quickly get challenged if they talk rot. Or at least that's the impression one got; maybe those with historical qualifications could give in their comment. It seems to be more of an academic exercise, rather than to live in an unhappy what-if world, wishing and hoping against reality that history had shaped up differently! To find this Usenet newsgroup, go to http://groups.google.com and there search for "soc.history.what-if goa" (without the quotes). Let us all know if you find something interesting. Below is one extract. FN Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha http://fn-floss.notlong.com Difficulties to send email across? Write to fredericknoronha at vsnl.net From: Jamie McDonell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: Re: Loyalist Enclaves Newsgroups: soc.history.what-if Date: 2004-11-06 20:45:35 PST Stanley wrote: > Dave Kohlhoff wrote... >> It's one thing for the British to retain Gibraltar and >>> something entirely different to keep Delmarva and Long Island. The >>> United States was a lot stronger than Spain and the areas you >>> mentioned a lot harder to defend. Enclaves work only where one side >>> is vastly superior to another and even then not for long. >>WI the United States is to recognize British control of these >>areas in return for independence? > They'd recognize it with their fingers crossed behind their backs much as > China accepted British Hong Kong. >>Also the population would be mostly Loyalists. > Perhaps so, but maybe not. The founder of Ottawa fought for George > Washington. Col. John By of the Royal Engineers is generally accounted to be the founder of Ottawa. Of the men generally accounted to be among the founders of Ottawa, two were Americans: Philemon Wright of Woburn MA, the founder of Hull (and the only one of the two old enough to have fought in the AR), is generally accounted to be a loyalist; and Braddish Billings, born in 1783 Boston, who founded a settlement on the Rideau River a few miles south of the original settlement. Billing's father _was_ a surgeon in the Continental Army and an agitator for revolution, but Billings himself was not so inclined, witnessed by the fact that he was a militia captain in Crown service. > Even if the population was mainly Loyalist in 1780 that might not be > the case in 1815 or 1845. In any case, so what? China didn't care > about the desires of the Hong Kong or Macao populations. If there had > been referendums in Pondicherry ot Goa I doubt they would have voted > for annexation by India. The Brits aren't the Portuguese. And most of the water supplies of Delmarva and (almost certainly) Long Island/Manhattan wouldn't be leased from the US. >>Would the US really be so angry they weren't in the union? > I think they would be. The Indians were angry enough to invade Goa in > 1961. Pakistan demanded the Omani enclave of Gwadar and got it in > 1958. >>If the US wanted to invade Long Island or Delmarva how long >>before it would be able to? > 1815 is possible. 1845 is likely. 1880 is a certain American victory. 1815 is ASB territory. 1845 is extremely unlikely. 1880 depends on how the US develops with those territories severed from the country. (1865 is much more likely, if it developed along similar lines to OTL _and_ the Union won the ACW.) >>What would be the likely outcome? > see above
[Goanet]"Cheap" holidays in Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Some links that Google throws up (without even asking!) for "cheap" holidays in Goa: Cheap Flights To Goa Amazing Deals on Flights to Goa. Compare Prices and Book Online. www.getmore4less.co.uk/goa Holidays in Goa Cheap Holiday Deals in Goa. Find Low Rate Goa Holidays. www.beta5.co.uk/goa_holiday Cheap Holidays In Goa Amazing Offers on Holidays In Goa. Quality, Choice and Superb Value. www.click4less.co.uk/goa Discount Hotels in Goa Excellent rates at hotels in Goa. Compare prices and Book Online. www.247-shopping.co.uk/hotels_goa Vacations India We offer vacation packages. Explore India's living History with us. www.vacationstoindia.com Could anyone say whether they work? FN Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha http://fn-floss.notlong.com Difficulties to send email across? Write to fredericknoronha at vsnl.net
[Goanet]Eulogy, Final commendation or final condemnation?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## "The death of Yasser Arafat is a significant moment in Palestinians' history," U.S. President George W. Bush said in a statement. "We hope that the future will bring peace and the fulfilment of the aspirations for an independent democratic Palestine that is at peace with its neighbours." (Reuters). Comment: The U.S President has a knack of making significant pronouncements. One would hope that the final farewell would be a commendation rather than a condemnation. In a related matter, in Eulogies usually, praise is lavished. It is unbecoming when the Eulogizer brings in one's past which is not exemplary. Especially one's convictions which are then reproduced in print and then put out on the internet, which is then available to the Whole World, through search engines such as Google. Eulogize: to speak or write in high praise of : EXTOL (Webster). As opposed to making public one's failings! cheers, Gabe.
[Goanet]Unhygienic and inhumane hospital conditions in UK?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## From: "Cecil Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote:- To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:48 PM Everyday there is the latest government research that says "too much sugar, butter, fresh air, water, alcohol, breathing is bad for you so I suppose we are becoming a nation that is made very conscious of health issues. RESPONSE: Too much freshair, water..breathing is bad for you??? . People here go into hospital for minor operations and die of an MRSI (infection due to lack of hygiene) so I want to avoid hopsitals at all costs. RESPONSE; There have been cases of people dying of infections, caught while in hospital. Could some UK based Goans please clarify to me if UK hospitals: 1) Refuse to treat smokers? 2) Refuse to operate on overweight patients? 3) Are unhygienic? I visited the hospital today as a friend is in awaiting a heart operation. I saw smokers smoking in the smoking room, I also saw quite a few overweight patients ( some grossly), unhgienic? I guess not as good a Jaslok in Mumbai but certainly a lot better than Goa Medical College in Goa. I always thought that the UK people who came to India for their operation came here because it was much cheaper and faster only. Now it appears there are other reasons. Cecil
[Goanet]10 NOV 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
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GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
Nov 10, 2004
We wish all our Hindu Netters
A VERY HAPPY DIWALI.
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: "Tujea lagim bailek posunk zainam zalear kazar
zainaka." (Do not marry until you are able to support a wife.) ("domnic
fernandes" [EMAIL PROTECTED])
GOACOM VIDEO NEWS: Video Clip from Goa on the first Session of HERITAGE
JAZZ YATRA organised by Armando Gonsalves of Trancemedia at Rebelo Mansion
at Betalbatim on October 10, 2004, at http://www.goacom.com/news
Clips_Heritage_Jazz Yatra_1:
GRAND OPENING FOR IFFI: Two of Goa's topmost bands, Tidal Wave and
Forefront, are scheduled to perform at the opening ceremony of the
International Film festival of India on 29 November. According to sources,
the opening ceremony will also feature a Carnival-style parade organised by
Francisco Martins. (GT)
BRIDGE PARTY TO CELEBRATE: The Entertainment Society of Goa has planned to
have a huge bash on the old Mandovi Bridge to celebrate completion of IFFI
works. The party is expected to be held on 21 November and the bridge will
be closed to all traffic. Entrance to the party will be by invitation only.
(GT)
HOW MANY SUPER CELEBS COMING? The IFFI could turn out to be one of the most
successful ever but, gauging from the preliminary list of delegates, it
could well fall short on the celebrity quotient. (GT)
DIWALI CELEBRATIONS: Diwali, the festival of lights, will be celebrated with
traditional pomp and religious fervour throughout the State today. Chief
Minister Manohar Parrikar, Governor Jamir and Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao
have greeted the Hindu brethren on the joyous occasion. (GT)
GEN RODRIGUES LOOKS FORWARD.: "This is a very great honour and an extremely
great challenge. Both, my wife and I are looking forward to this very much.
You see, my first posting as a commissioned officer was in Ambala in the old
days when Punjab was not divided. Subsequent to that we have had five
separate postings to the Punjab at different ranks. The result is we have
friends, who cover the complete spectrum of the human experience, if I may
put it that way. The final posting was as Army Commander when Punjab was at
the height of militancy." (Gen Sunit Francis Rodrigues in an interview with
Joaquim Fernandes in NT)
WOMAN RESCUED FROM WELL: Veenita D'Souza, a 26-year-old woman, was rescued
by the fire brigade on August 10 after she had jumped into a 35-ft deep well
near St Jacinto Island. (H)
BODY FOUND: The body of a 50-year-old man, Peter D'Souza of Tamil Nadu, was
found at a bus shelter at Cortalim on November 10. D'Souza was working for a
fishing trawler at Cortalim for the last few years. (H)
WATER SHORTAGE LIKELY IN CANACONA: Panic has set among the residents of
Canacona as water levels in Chapoli dam are falling on account of inadequate
rainfall this year. (GT)
BJP, CONG FOR CHANGES IN DELIMITATION: The BJP and Congress have suggested
some changes to the draft proposal of delimitation of constituencies,
including retaining of the Velim constituency and renaming of the proposed
Porvorim segment as Penha de Franca. (GT)
POLLUTED LAKE IN NAVELIM: Fearing the water pollution touching higher levels
in Xalpem-Tollem in Navelim village, the Navelim MLA, Mr Luizinho Faleiro,
urged the chairman of the Goa State Pollution Control Board to initiate
necessary action at the earliest to avoid health hazards. (NT)
LEOPARD SKIN JACKET SEIZED: Goa Police's Crime Branch personnel raided a
leather shop in Bardez's Coastal belt and seized a jacket made of leopard's
skin, on Tuesday. The owner of the leather shop, one Mohamad Altaf Handroo,
has been booked under section 49-B and 51 of the Wildlife Protection Act.
(H)
THEFT AT AGASSAIM CHAPEL: Some unknown culprits effected entry in a chapel
at Dexibhat, Agassaim, and decamped with articles worth Rs.9,000. (NT)
NEW SARPANCH FOR CURTORIM: Nazareth Rodrigues became the new sarpanch of the
11-member village Panchayat of Curtorim on November 10, defeating Armando
Estibeiro by 6-5 votes. (H)
PRE-PORTUGUESE ARSENAL AT OLD GOA: Sites behind Sao Pedro Church, the
Arsenal de Marinha, plots of Department of Agriculture at Ela and behind
Pinto garage are being cleared for space to park more than 7,000 cars and
15,000 two-wheelers as well as buses. The site of the Arsenal of the Navy
(identified as Bakhia's property) is considered archaeologically more
sensitive as it was virtually a fortress and a mini city with many edifices
inside.According to Percival Noronha, secretary of Indian Heritage Society,
the Ribeira das Naus, as it was also called, was developed by the Muslim
rulers and existed before the Po
[Goanet]What happens to Albert Rodrigues (27)?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Friends, Please find forwared Action alert from GJLF to demand justice to the workers in Goa's famed tourism sector. In Solidarity, seby. -- Orignal Message -- From: "gjlf labour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Action alert workers of Goa. Welcome to the land of Goa. A story of worker in transnational leisure corporate. Albert Rodrigues (27) resides in a village called Siolim located in Bardez taluka, north Goa, India. He has been employed in Travelpack Panjim-Goa-capital town. Joined company from September 12, 2002 is a confirmed staff. Distance from Siolim to Panjim is 21 kms. Working as a 'driver' and with paid salary of Rs. 3380/- with Rs.180/- for fringe benefits deduction. In the month of November 2004, when he went to see weather salary has been processed or not, there is a deduction of Rs. 465. After inquiring with the bank manager of Corporation Bank-Panjim Branch he found that the company had deducted without any prior notice or any explaination. His salary slip displays no deduction.Rs. 465, which is a very big amount for a person who is not even getting the minimum salary. At the moment, Goa is the most expensive place to live in as compared to the rest of the states in India. Goa also has the lowest pay scale as compared to rest of the states in India. The table will explain the calculation of daily expense of unskilled labour as per the price rise. Breakfast 30 Lunch 50 Dinner 50 Transport 30 Personal saving 40 Total 200 Multiplying Rs 200 for 30 days -- the minimum monthly salary is Rs.6000. He has been underemployed by Rs. 2440 if he considers himself as unskilled labour. But when he works as a driver means there is no doubt that he is skilled labour. His salary should be higher than that of an unskilled labour. Number of working hours he puts is not less then 18 hrs. Of which he is not even getting an additional single penny. He gets paid only for 08 hrs. and thus the company is robbing him for 10hrs. Per day. It's left up to you to calculate how much he has been robbed by the company. This is a ruthless exploitation of the labour by the company. With this salary, is it possible him to get married and support a family? Or should he commit suicide like the farmers of Andhra Pradesh, India? Or should he peddle narcotics on the beaches of Goa? Gjlf demands answers for these questions from the transnational leisure corporate Travelpack, whose head office is based in UK. And which has its eleven suboffices in India. Choosing Goa as a hub of entire operation i.e Business Processing Outsourcing (BPO), on the lines of a callcentre -- accounting, web designing, loading information in (special downloaded module) software with flight fares, amending fares loaded by reservation staff, providing grounding (stay) accommodation for charter and domestic tourist. Providing transfers on arrival and departure of tourist as well as providing vehicles on disposal as per the requirement of customer. Plus during the charter flight operation employing the (local) boys as hotel representatives and sending them to respective hotels in search of sales of different holiday excursions which delights the tourist and pours additional pounds in maximising corporates accounts. Travelpack is a wholesaler of issuing flights tickets of various airlines, to sub agents and customers. In the Goa office, there are 134 employees. Number of tourists arriving through Travelpack are not less then 800 per week. The charges differ as per the grade of hotel. Minimum 600 pounds per person per week. So the question of getting minimum wage is all together a distant dream. The situation is of life and death. The company wants Albert Rodrigues to work to death. By working also he is unable to munch bread and butter or, in other words, the company is snatching the loaf of bread from his mouth. Few days back, a local newspaper carried a story saying that the Travelpack is a job-generating organisation. But the local news paper has forgotten to carry a statement saying that at the same time a brutal exploitator of employees. There is a online call centre reservation staff whose turnover per month is not less then 300,000 pounds (three hundred thousand pounds) in Indian Rupees it is Rs 2,46,00,000 (two crore fortysix lalj ri[ees) at the exchange rate of Rs. 82. Revenue which is generated by the (local) hotel representatives is not less then 4000 pounds per week. i.e. Rs.328,000 (rupees three lacks twenty eight thousand). Not less then 16000 pounds per month. i.e. Rs.13,12,000/- (thirteen lakhs twelve thousand). For six mont
[Goanet]Re: Konkani Course
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Ghoddeak udkachim passun vorot zalear faido nam kiteak ghodeak tan lagot zalear-uch udok pieatolo nam zalear ghoddo, vho khoinchent zanvor vho munis kosem udik pieatelem? teka lagon zhe goeamkar konkani uloinam te, tankan konkanichi tan dakonc zaie tednach te konkani xinkonc etelet. instead of criticizing them we should encourage them to speak konkani. As i had said in my previous mail that there are three type of goans living in bombay one who loves to proudly speak write and read konkani one who are ashamed to talk konkani in public and one who has never come in contact with konkani we should be proud of our language and no doubt we have to speak english at business but whenever opportunity permits we should openly speak konkani. with best regards Herman D'Souza
[Goanet]Unhygienic and inhumane hospital conditions in UK?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## A female correspondent of mine from UK wrote to me: I suppose I am a bit obsessive about exercise. I don't want to get fat and have gained 10 LBS since I gave up smoking so I am trying to ensure that I don't continue gaining. The extra 10 looks okay on me but it's so easy at my age to let the weight creep up until it's at a stage where I give up trying. Also in the nanny state we live in if you smoke many hospitals refuse to treat you. If you are overweight many hospitals will refuse to operate unless you lose weight. Everyday there is the latest government research that says "too much sugar, butter, fresh air, water, alcohol, breathing is bad for you so I suppose we are becoming a nation that is made very conscious of health issues. Also I see a lot of middle-aged people around me who just let themselves go and really suffer health problems as a result, I don't want to become that since the health service here is unbelieveably bad. People here go into hospital for minor operations and die of an MRSI (infection due to lack of hygiene) so I want to avoid hopsitals at all costs. -- Could some UK based Goans please clarify to me if UK hospitals: 1) Refuse to treat smokers? 2) Refuse to operate on overweight patients? 3) Are unhygienic? I always thought that the UK people who came to India for their operation came here because it was much cheaper and faster only. Now it appears there are other reasons. Cecil
[Goanet][OFFTOPIC] TWNFeatures -- ROOT OF HIGH OIL PRICES
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Not a Goa-related posting, but I guess it could interest both economics-related Goanetters and those in the Gulf. FN -- Forwarded message -- ROOT OF HIGH OIL PRICES The oil giants' commanding position in the global oil industry allows them to practically impose oil prices on the market independent of any external factor that may affect prices. By Arnold Padilla A recent article by Reuters tried to explain why oil prices are high. It gave five major reasons: rising demand driven in particular by the Chinese and Indian markets, lack of spare supply capacity, political tensions in the Middle East and financial crisis of Russian oil giant Yukos, stricter environmental regulations especially in the US, and scarcer oil. While these factors explain to a certain degree the latest surge in world oil prices - with New York Mercantile Exchange (NYME) oil posting an all-time high of US$44.24 per barrel, London's Brent crude with an unprecedented US$40.28 per barrel, and Dubai crude with a 13-year high of US$37.50 per barrel - they do not fully explain why oil prices are high. To understand global oil prices, it is not enough to simply look at factors that affect supply and demand. It is more important to closely scrutinise the structure of the global petroleum industry to grasp the dynamics of the forces that influence prices. Historically, the global oil market has never enjoyed free competition. Since its birth in the late 1800s, the industry has been dominated by a few giant American and European corporations. In fact, US-based Exxon (now ExxonMobil, the world's largest oil company) once boasted that it was already a transnational corporation (TNC) 50 years before the term was invented. Aside from ExxonMobil, the world's top oil firms also include Royal Dutch Shell (Britain-Netherlands), British Petroleum (Britain), Total (France), ChevronTexaco (US), and ConocoPhillips (US). Based on Fortune magazine's 2003 list of the biggest 500 corporations in the world, these oil giants have combined revenues of US$788 billion, profits of US$34 billion, assets of US$619 billion, and employ more than half a million workers. Just how powerful are they? Author Anthony Sampson, in his book the Seven Sisters, has offered the most graphic description: 'Their supranational expertise is way beyond the ability of any government. Their incomes are greater than most countries where they operate. Their fleet of tankers has more tonnage than any navy. They own and administer whole cities in the desert. In dealing with oil, they are self-sufficient, invulnerable to the law of supply and demand and to the vagaries of the stock markets.' Such unimaginable wealth and power stem from the control that these TNCs have on all the aspects of their business. The six largest oil companies can produce more than 80 million barrels per day of crude and refine more than 112 million barrels per day of various petroleum products. This commanding position allows them to practically impose oil prices on the market independent of any external factor that may affect prices. For example, it is not true that stricter environmental regulations caused strains on refining capacity, leading to shortages and price spikes in the US oil market, as argued by the Reuters article. The US Federal Trade Commission has found out that oil companies (as stated in internal memos and documents of ExxonMobil, British Petroleum, and Texaco that the commission uncovered) intentionally withheld gasoline supply in the American market and drive small refiners out of business to jack up prices and maximise profits. The Reuters article claim that there is a lack of spare supply capacity, aggravated by rising market demand, is also questionable. As estimated by the Energy Intelligence Group, there are seven to eight billion barrels of oil tied up worldwide at any given time. The question is who controls these stocks. In its online primer Oil Market Basics, the US-based Energy Information Administration said that most of the world's storage capacity is owned by the companies that produce, refine, or market the oil (read: the oil giants) while a number of small independent operators rent it to third parties. If oil companies that have their own storage capacity want to keep their stocks untouched for a year, for instance, it would only cost them US$1.50 per barrel - a measly sum compared to the profits they would rake in when prices shoot up due to 'lack of spare supply'. It is therefore no longer news that the world's two most dominant
Re: [Goanet]The values - vote myth (NYTimes Op-ed)
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[Goanet]Fundamentalists
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## A couple of decades ago I had occasion to attend a Seminar organised by the Forum of Free Enterprise at the Fort Aguada B.R. on emerging world political trends. It was attended by a galaxy of intellectuals led by late Minoo Masani, Girilal Jain, Gen.Sundarji, Rahul Singh etc. A former Foreign Secretary (who had just been sacked by Rajiv Gandhi and whose name I cannot presently recall) referred to a fascinating thesis by a French writer predicting that the great conflict of the 21st. Century would a repetition of the Crusades after a lapse of 8 centuries, with a Christian Western Europe confronting a Muslim East Asia. This remarkable prediction appears to be turning out to be true. With the re-election of President Bush pushing his aggressive agenda backed by the Christian right against the so-called Islamic fundamentalists, the rest of the world watches aghast as Christian fundamentalists face-off Islamic fundamentalists, with little thought of the consequences for the rest of the world! ---Tony Correia-Afonso.
[Goanet]Re: 08 NOV 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## DEAR EDITOR. PLEASE TELL THE GOAN PUBLICK NOT TO END " BULL FIGHTS ..DERRIO ITS IS OUR TRADITIONAL HERITAGE WE DONT WANT TO SEE DHOTI FIGHTING. JH
[Goanet]Dr Manoel Francisco de Souza (1767-1831)
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I am researching Dr Manoel Francisco de Souza (1767-1831), a Portuguese trader who arrived in Malacca around 1793 on his own sailing vessel the 'Maria Louisa' (Fr.Manuel Teixeira,'The 4th Centenary of the Malacca Diocese, 1557-1957', Rally,1960). Dr M. F. de Souza went on to provide advice etc. to Captain Francis Light, an Englishman who was the founder of Penang. I would like to research back from that date to find the route of the vessel. Does anyone know of Dr M. F. de Souza and the typical route of his vessel eg. was it Lisbon/Goa/Malacca for instance? Dr. M. F.de Souza was a 'member of a noble Portuguese' family and his vessel was apparently shipwrecked off the coast of Malacca. He was the son Romualdo de Souza and Sarah Adao who had two other children Joao and Duarte. Does anyone know whether and how Romualdo was related to Antonio de Souza of late 1700s trade association of Jourdain, Sulivan and de Souza? DK
[Goanet]Re: condemn workers exploitation in Goa-India.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Indeed very sickening state of affairs indeed. Labour loot in the name of labour employment. Smoke in the Goa's Smokeless industry- Tourism. Congratulations to GJLF for blowing the whistle. In case Travelpack continues to harrass and torment the Working Class then it may not be long time that it may be asked to pack off from Goa. A systematic process of squezing the employees. Earlier the travel pack acts to rectify its labour policy, better it is. Long live workers rights! Long live Workers Unity! NEST supports the awakening of the working class in Goa.
[Goanet]Jazz by the Beach!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Jazz Goa's off to the beach once again, this time it's a South Goa beach and the venue is ZEE-BOP at Uttorda. So it's going to be Be-bop at Zee-bop with JAZZ JUNCTION featuring: Yvonne Gonsalves-vocals Jason Jones (USA)-saxophone Lenny Heredia (Australia)-keyboards Colin D'Cruz-bass Lester Godinho-drums For more information please call: Gerson Rebelo:9823236696 Armando Gonsalves:9822487818
[Goanet]Re: GoanetReader -- Goa's Rs 240 million multiplex is up... audiences?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Thanks for sending lot of information of Goans. But my dear friend I can't understand that why our gaon news and articles are not updated in proper interval? Since our mothertongue is Konkani why can't the newspaper on websites or any other articles be typed in Konkani? It is shame on us /me that being goan we/ I don't know to write or read konkani though some basics have been taught through the web site . It is sad to know that Vixtt has not been updated this week as well as Vavredeancho Ixtt Has not been updated since 2003.If it is so then it should not be shown on the webpage indiapress.org. It is that we are making jokes of our own self. It is so embarassing when I proudly try to open the site and its that same old news. Please look into this matter. There are Foreign Goans who try to keep our culture alive then why not goans themselves residing in goa? Are the Gaons not interested in the modern technology? I don't know the reason . I would like to send some poems in konkani but will you do the spelling correction and send it ? I would love to part of the goanet. I really enjoy reading Vixtt. Its is very good and proud to know that It not only give us information but it increases the faith of christainity. that is very important and necessary. Before I wind up I would like to say Anv Devachem cheddum , Tu bhi Devacho, Tor kiteak fattim ravu-ia? Uttun ami sogli ektai jaum-ea, Kristavacho prochear korunk fuddem soro ea Dev bore korum. Kupp zallem sosop, Ixttan awaz utto ea
[Goanet]PETITION
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Friends, I have just read and signed the online petition: "India: Gujarat Genocide Trials: Appeal for the Protection of Witnesses" hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/gapw/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Best wishes, Reggie Gomes
[Goanet]new year's dance
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## New Year's Eve Dance 2004-2005! It will be another New Year!! Bring the kids, It's a FAM (family) JAM!! Many fun people, good food, cash bar, prizes, DJ Music, dancing, perhaps a show!! Friday, December 31, 8:00pm @ RiverGrove Community Centre In Mississauga Advance Tickets - adults only $30, Children 4yrs-12yrs only $15! (After November 25, 2004 - adults only $35) LIMITED SEATING FOR RESERVATIONS PLEASE CALL Iona MIRANDA @ 905-507-6315 / Lorraine FERNANDES @ 905-792-1686 Tickets on sale now!!
[Goanet]Ambedkar Awas Yojana
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## When the politicians don't own the communidade land, are they right to gift it to the landless (migrants & thier cronies)? Is the Governments policy of maintaining low birth rate only for the Goans? And why do we Goans have to sweat it out in distant lands in order to buy a piece of land or build a house at astronomical rates ? This is a sinister move and daylight robbery by our unscruplous politicians to garner vote banks and dilute the ethnic goan people. The people of Curtorim and Pazarkone (Cuncolim) have rightly demonstrated,isn't it time for the rest of us to demonstrate and get rid of all these yojana's ? Percy Ferrao Ealing Road
[Goanet]"JINGLE BELL" - inspirational message
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Inspirational message created by me on Goanet. Jesus is better than Santa!! Santa lives at the North Pole. Jesus lives everywhere. Santa rides in a sleigh. Jesus rides on the wind and walks on water. Santa comes but once a year. Jesus is an ever-present help. Santa comes down your chimney uninvited. Jesus stands at your door and knocks and then enters your heart. You have to stand in line to see Santa. Jesus is as close as the mention of His Name. Santa lets you sit on his lap. Jesus lets you rest in His arms. Santa has a belly like a bowl full of jelly. Jesus has a heart full of love. All Santa can offer is HO, HO, HO. Jesus offers health, help and hope. Santa says you better not cry Jesus says Cast all your cares on Me for I care for You MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! Love and best regards, Alexander Dias Saudi Arabia
[Goanet]3 A-Side Penalty shootouts
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## 3 A-Side Penalty shootout Salmiya Friends Community have the pleasure of inviting both Gents and Ladies in two separate Penalty Shootouts Tournament being organized on the Salmiya grounds (behind Edee Exhibition stores) which will be held on Friday commencing from 12th November 2004, from 10:00 am to 1:00pm. Further matches will be continued on the following Fridays. Should there be any changes to the schedules, the respective teams will be notified at least 2-3 days in advance. The entry fee for Gents will be KD 3/- (KD Three Only), which should be submitted along with each entry form. Ladies entry forms will be free. Rules of the Shootout: - 1. Participating teams (Males and Females respectively) should be of INDIAN origin ONLY. Civil ID should be produced upon request. 2. Each Team will consist of 3 players (including Goalkeeper) 3. Each game will comprise of 3 penalties ONLY a. Should there be a draw, only 1 additional sudden death penalty shot will be taken. b. If the sudden death still continues to be a draw, the winner of the match will be decided by a coin toss. 4. The referees decision will be final in all circumstances. Rules of the Draw and qualifying rounds: - 1. Teams will be divided equally by lots as of two groups; i.e. Group A & Group B 2. In each round the winning teams will further play other winners with the same group. 3. Matches for the entire tournament will be decided on lots. * All Entries should be handed over by Thursday the 11.11.2004 by 6:00pm. Kindly fill up the attached details and submit Mr. Judas 9784155 Mr. Jerry 9206903 Mr. Santan 6262323
[Goanet]GOA - LONDON BOOKING S
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## CAN YOU PLEASE FORWARD DETAILS OF TRAVEL AGENT ETC IN GOA WHO IS DOING THIS BOOKINGS . THANKS FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE CYRIL PEREIRA. TAN SALES (LONDON) LTD UNIT B, COLINDALE BUSINESS PARK 2/10 CARLISLE ROAD LONDON NW9 0HN ENGLAND TEL: +44 20 8205 6881 FAX: +44 20 8205 6884 EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: www.tansales.co.uk This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.
[Goanet]RE: GoanetReader -- Life on a Goan shack is unbeatable
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Goanet I read with great interest the article on Goan shacks, and wholeheartedly support the view of the writer. The shacks are a very special part of Goa, everyone loves them , and have their own favorite. Many years ago I decided to live in Spain, on the Costa del Sol, which was then a series of villages all separate from each other, the village of Fuengirola for example had a great shack/bar on the beach called The Sugar Shack, everyone new of it, and it made a great meeting place. Now of course all the villages have merged as one long concrete mass with nothing to distinguish one from another. I hope that Goa will prosper with tourism but hopefully will retain the things that make it such a special place, it can be done with forward planning, and concern for the environment. Sincerely yours Pauline Archer (Reading,England)
[Goanet]condemn workers exploitation in Goa-India.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Action alert workers of Goa. Welcome to the land of Goa. A story of worker in transnational leisure corporate. Albert Rodrigues-27 yrs. Is residing in a village called siolim locaked in Bardez taluka-north Goa-India.been employed in Travelpack Panjim- Goa-capital town. Joined company from 12th september2002 is a confirm staff.distance from siolim to panjim is 21kms. Working as a 'Driver' and with paid salary of Rs. 3380/- with Rs.180/- for fringe benefits diduction. In the month of November 2004 when he went to see weather salary has been processed or no there is a diduction of Rs. 465/- after inquiring with the Bank manager of corporation Bank-panjim Branch he found that company has deducted without any prior notice or any explaination. His salary slip displays no deduction.Rs. 465/- is a very big amount for a person who is not even getting minimum salary. At the moment Goa is the most expensive place to live in as compared to the rest of the states in India and Goa is having lowest pay scale as compared to rest of the state in India. The table will explain the calculation of daily expense of unskilled labour as per the price rise. Breakfast 30 Lunch 50 Dinner 50 Transport 30 Personal saving 40 Total 200 Multiplying 200/- for 30days -minimum monthly salary is Rs.6000/- he has been underemployed byRs. 2440/- if he considers as unskilled labour. But when he works as a Driver means there is no doubt that he is skilled labour. His salary should be higher then the unskilled labour. Number of working hours he puts is not less then 18hrs. Of which he is not even getting single penny. He gets paid only for 08hrs. company is robbing him for 10hrs. Per day. Its left up to you to calculate how much he has been robbed by the company. This is a ruthless exploitation of the labour by the company. With this salary is it possible him to get married and support a family. Or should he commit suicide like the farmers of Andhra pradesh-India.or should he paddle narcotics on the beaches of Goa? Gjlf-demands answers for these questions to Transnational leisure corporate Travelpack. Transnational liesure corporate Travelpack who's head office is based in UK. Has its eleven sub offices in India. Choosing Goa as a hub of entire operation i.e Business Processing Outsourcing (BPO), on line callcentre, accounting, web designing, loading information in (special downloaded module) software with flight fares, amending fares loaded by Reservation staff, providing grounding (stay) accommodation for charter and domestic tourist. Providing transfers on arrival and departure of tourist as well as providing vehicles on disposal as per the requirement of customer. Plus during the charter flight operation employing the (local) boys as Hotel Representatives and sending them to respective hotels in search of sales of different holiday excursions which delights the tourist and pours additional pounds in maximising corporates accounts. This currench actually tourist are coming to spend with lcals for various activities. Travelpack is a wholesaler of issuing flights tickets of various Airlines.to sub agents and customers. In Goa office there are 134 employees. Number of tourists arriving through Travelpack are not less then 800 per week. The charges differ as per the grade of Hotel. Minimum 600pounds per person per week. So the question of getting minimum wage is all together a distant dream. The situation is of life and death. The company wants him to work to death. By working also he is unable to munch a Bread and Butter or in other words company is snatching a loaf of Bread from his mouth. Few days back local news paper carried a story saying that the Travelpack is a job generating organisation. But the local news paper has forgotten to carry a statement saying that at the same time a brutal exploitator of employees. There is a on line call centre Reservation staff who's turnover per month is not less then 300,000pounds (three hundred thousand pounds) in Indian Rupees it is 2460/- (two crore fortysix lacks) at the exchange rate of Rs. 82/- Revenue which is generated by the (local) hotel representatives is not less then 4000pounds per week. i.e. Rs.328000/-(three lacks twenty eight thousand). Not less then 16000pounds per month. i.e. Rs.1312000/- (thirteen lakhs twelve thousand). For six month it is 96000pounds i.e. Rs. 7872000/-(seventy eight lakhs seventy two thousand). There are domestic cars and coaches on disposal. Plus there is sale of issuing domestic flight tickets
[Goanet]CGN: SAINTS --NOVENA PRAYER FOR THE BEATIFICATION OF VEN. PE. AGNELO
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## NOVENA PRAYER FOR THE BEATIFICATION OF VEN. PE. AGNELO (Begins: November 11; Feast day November 20) To The Eternal Father: Eternal Father who works with such might and sweetness in the souls of men so that Divine inspirations may be faithfully carried out and who realizes wonders through Thy humblest creatures, grant us, we humbly beseech Thee the favour .. as a testimony of the power enjoyed in Heaven by Fr. Angelo who laboured with holy favour on this earth for Thy Glory. --Our Father, Hail Mary and Glory be... To the Eternal Son: O Eternal Son, Jesus Christ, who in Thy infinite wisdom did will to teach by word and example and did become man to redeem mankind with the infinite price of Thy Blood, grant us, we humbly bessech Thee, the favour.. as an unequivocal proof of the reward in Heaven which Fr. Agnelo received for leaving behind him the example of a virtuous life sanctified by the fullfilment of his daily duties. --Our Father, Hail Mary and Glory be... To The Eternal Holy Spirit: O Eternal Holy Spirit who pours into souls the love which sanctifies them and fills them wit zeal for Thy Holy Service, grant us, we humbly beseech Thee the favour.. as a revelation of the eternal reward which Fr. Agnelo received owing to his apostolic zeal and his tireless labours for the glory of God and the welfare of his neighbours. --Our Father, Hail Mary and Glory be... THE PRAYER:O God of infinite mercy, humbly prostrate at Thy feet, we beg of Thee with all confidence that, if it be Thy Holy Will and for the good of our sanctification Thou inspire our Holy Mother the Church to appraise the virtues of Fr. Agnelo and to grant him the honours of the Altar to the greater glory of Thy nameAmen. Imprimatur: Bishop Oswald Gracias, 15th March 1999. Ausiliary Bishop, Archbishops House, 21, N. Parekh Marg, Bombay-- 400 039, INDIA. Alfred de Tavares, Maltesholmsvagen 83, SE-165 55 Hasselby, Sweden Tel: 0046 8 759 6213; 0046 70 295 4091 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/
[Goanet]garage in Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I wonder if you can help me. I have inherited a shop in Goa - the shop was rented (actually it was a garage)since 1998-1999 and used as a shop. the tenant has not paid rent for more than 3 years. Is there a way I can get the shop back. I do have an attorney and the case has been going on since the beginning of 2003 (almost 22 months). I thought and I read on the Goa website that if the tenant does not pay rent the rent controller can ask the tenant to vacate the premises. I would appreciate if you can give me any advice. thanks Marie
[Goanet]Police dog
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Alsatian was quite right, but German Shepherd Dog is simply the translation for " Deutscher Schäferhund".(ä = ae). Greetings Howi
[Goanet]The values - vote myth (NYTimes Op-ed)
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Marlon: <> Dan: Marlon, Thanks for your reasoned response. I just wanted to clarify that my response is not because I'm ashamed of the contribution of my fellow believers or because I'm trying to discount their vote in this election. I just think that the "moral" vote is a little simplistic and that perhaps they are reaching a conclusion that is not really researched well enough. If Democrats were to go by this conclusion and adjust their strategy accordingly they would be basing their campaign on a false premise. As Peter pointed out: " The numbers of Christians who voted this year were not proportionately higher than those who voted in 2000 where moral issues were not even considered as a voting factor in the polls (if I remember right). Regards, Dan
Re: [Goanet]Indian Passport - GOA to London 2 weeks just Rs.16,000 return
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## From: "LetsGotoGoa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:14 AM Subject: [Goanet]Indian Passport - GOA to London 2 weeks just Rs.16,000 return I saw a fare on one UK website (Goan owner..rip-off?) for the same date/flt/duration it was showing up £350 (Rs.28,000) == Dear letsgotogoa, For the record, I posted details of this offer to GoaNet over a month ago. See http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2004-October/018908.html Cheers, Eddie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.791 / Virus Database: 535 - Release Date: 08/11/2004
[Goanet]Hospiltality partner for IFFI: Everything included? :-)
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## >TAJ TO BE HOSPITALITY PARTNER: The Taj Fort Aguada Beach resort will be the official hospitality partner for the International Film Festival of India. >(>LGT
[Goanet][persecuted_church_of_india] What is 'wrong' in religious conversion?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## What is 'wrong' in religious conversion? By Kumar Chellappan Religious Conversion is back in the news and that too with more vigour. Although religious conversion used to be big news in north India, it was conspicuous by its absence in Kerala. Now conversion news has become as widespread as sex scandals and general hartals. It all started with the attack on the US Missionary Bishop Cooper who while on a visit to Kerala in 2003 got involved in evangelisation work. The Sangh Parivar people attacked him and the poor Missionary left the country in a huff. It is not known whether the Hindu `fundamentalists' lodged any complaints with the local police. These organisations are doing a lot of work for the `uplift' (social and spiritual) of the poor and the downtrodden. There are not many Hindu organisations involved in such projects. I am yet to come across any Hindu organisations or Hindu missionaries who are actively working with lepers, physically and mentally challenged people, HIV + infected people and so on. There are many centres run by nuns and missionaries for terminally ill patients. Orphanages and old age homes managed by the Christian Missionaries offer a lot of relief to all those rejected by their close ones. It need not be a strange coincidence that most of the hospitals, orphanages and educational organisations are run by Christian Missionaries. It requires a lot of money to run these establishments. It is quite natural that foreign agencies offer funds and other aids to these organisations. What is wrong if the Missionaries encourage the poor and the downtrodden to embrace their religion? For the poor, what matters most is two square meals a day. All the governments, which ruled the country for the last sixty years or so, failed miserably in poverty eradication. Although they churn out data and statistics to prove that the number of people below the poverty line has come down, there is no dearth of news about deaths due to starvation and poverty. Even a state like Bengal, which is under a progressive secular regime uninterruptedly for the last 27 years is not free from starvation deaths. Where governments fail, organisations like Missionaries Of Charity emerge, offering food and other benefits. What is wrong if they ask the `unreached' to get converted to their religion? If the Missionaries of Charity or any other organisation is capable of eradicating poverty by making people change their religious belief, they should be encouraged to do so. Courtesy: Asianet Global http://www.aiccindia.org/what_is_wrong_with_religious_conversion.htm To subscribe just send a blank mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer : This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. It should not be used by any one who is not the original intended recipient. If you have erroneously received this message, please delete it immediately and notify the sender. The recipient acknowledges that MOSt is unable to exercise control or ensure or guarantee the integrity of/over the contents of the information contained in e-mail transmission and further acknowledges that any views expressed in this messages are those of the individual sender and does not bind MOSt unless the sender does so expressly with due authority with MOSt. Before Opening any attachment please check them for viruses and defects.
Re: [Goanet]re: dubai soccer
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Hi Eugene, Thanks for your comments. First of all, i really dont know the reports are written by Wilfred Pereira as his name is not appearing. i will note the source (Gulf today) next time when i post the reports. I understand that it is difficult for all the goaneters to access directly by logging on to www.godubai.com/gulftoday, so it is easy for us to read the report from goanet. even you can post the reports so that the goans around the world could know what activities are going in dubai or other places. There is one saying in konknni "apun-ui korchona anik dusreak-ui korunk dinvchona" and it is true. cheer. borg. = > > I think Borg is doing a good job in posting the > inter-village football tournament reports, but the > reports he posts are from Gulf Today daily paper. It > would have been right if Borg had noted the source. > The reports are written by Wilfred Pereira, a former > sports reporter with Herald. > The reports also appear in Gulf News and written by > another Goan, Alaric Gomes, also a former Herald > staffer. > Willy's reports can be accessed directly by logging > on > to www.godubai.com/gulftoday and then navigating to > the sports pages. > I am not sure if Alaric's reports are on the > www.gulfnews.com site. I didn't see them when I > browsed the website. > > Eugene > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. > www.yahoo.com > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
[Goanet]LINK: Rayn D'Souza
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I knew Ryan as an engineer-turned-RJ (radio jockey) and he was popular both via All India Radio's FM services and also as a master of ceremonies in Goa. Earlier today, Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> rang up, in another context, and mentioned that he was now based in Shiraz, Iran at a job at the rigs. Hope I spelt the name of the city out there. Any other Goans out there? Ryan happens to be the brother of Salesian priest Ralino D'Souza. Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha http://fn-floss.notlong.com
[Goanet]Indian Passport - GOA to London 2 weeks just Rs.16,000 return
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Remember my prev. posting?? 'Y go 2 Delhi? come 2 london?' Indian Passport? Don't worry, all you need is UK Visa and offcourse, the money. Yes GOA to London and back to GOA for just Rs.16,000 only. And that too for Xmas & New year, what a bargain Leaving 22Dec Dabolim Arrive same day London and then leaving Lon 4th Jan arrive Dabolim next day morning. FYI, for the same period/dates Lon-Goa-Lon fare is £599 (Rs.48,500) Interested?? or would there be any interest here for cheap deals etc for this sector?? How would I know??? Warning: you may even get cheaper or more expensive but right now just Rs.16,000. I saw a fare on one UK website (Goan owner..rip-off?) for the same date/flt/duration it was showing up £350 (Rs.28,000) I DONT GET RICHER (as I dont get commission every time u buy a ticket) BUT I DO GET RICHER EVERY TIME YOU SAY SOME THING GOOD OR BAD. PEOPLE LIKE Seb, Savio, Brendan, Cell (ferns), Rene etc etc really made me richer. Dev Borem Korum = for Goa & Goa Flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa New Official (Church) Site on the SFX Exposition.. http://www.archgoadaman.org/Dioceses/SFX/index.html GOAN NRI related.. http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ ___ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Happy Diwali
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Wishing Y'all A Very Happy Diwali and A Very Very Prosperous Year Ahead. __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
Re: : [Goanet]PRE-PORTUGUESE CULTURE OF GOA
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Mr. Miguel, I am talking of fashions and trends and not politics. Or maybe Goan boys do not have fulfilling capacities. Is the Zuari Agro creating problems, the NIO should have known better! B. Colaço > > Dear Bernado, > Let me re-phrase that for you: Goan girls marrying > Maharashtrian,Tamil,Haryanvi ,Punjabi,etc. boys. Goa > is a state of the > Indian Union since 1987 and has been an union > territory like Pondicherry of > Daman or Chandigarh since 19 Dec.1961. Like it or > lump it. Even Portugal has > accepted that.You had better do the same. It is > difficult to believe, but > true. > ___ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Meeting of the Minds - LOK ULOITAT at Caritas on Saturday 20 Nov. 2004 - 4.00 to 6.30 P.M.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## MEETING OF THE MINDS "LOK ULOITAT" Venue: CARITAS - St. Inez, Panjim. Saturday- 20/NOV/04 From 4.00 TO 6:30 P.M. No Guest Speakers Open to individuals on registration basis for allocating time slots. Open slots: time permitting only. TOPIC FOR THE PRESENTATION 1. Present Political Scenario in Goa 2. People's Agenda V/s Agenda of Political Parties. 3. Role of NGOs. 4. People's plan of Action for Political Parties. 5. Your commitment to make the system of governance people friendly. Presenter to submit written presentation (if possible) for moderator's reference Call 2266111 or 9422060347 OR email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to register your slot to speak (no fees) (Organised by: GSRP)
[Goanet]UK: International Calls Price Checker & and other bargains
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Folks, For the International Calls Price Checker go to http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/callchecker/ Quite simply tell it where you want to call and it gives the updated cheapest provider in about 10 seconds. Best of all you needn't change phone line to use the cheapest and most can be accessed instantly without an account. The savings are huge. Article: Cheapest International Calls New technology is at http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?newsid1098014080,3685 India, for example, is shown at 5p a minute - landline or mobile. North America for 1/2p Go to the main site: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ Some best buy gems: Insurance - Travel, Home, Car, Health, Life etc. Mobile Phones - Contract, PAYG, etc. Credit cards, Savings, Loans, Mortgages, Shopping, Utilities, etc. Supermarkets: Prices compared; Special offers etc. Of course the most authoritative UK guide to Products and Service is Which, published by the independent Consumers Association. The problems: it not updated very regularly, limited numbers of products are covered and it is available by subscription only (though the print copy is available at all public libraries and there is a free trial for the online version http://www.which.co.uk/ Also: WILL-AID. Get a solicitor to do your will - free in November: Hundreds of solicitors around the country are taking part in Will-Aid. Pop into their office and they'll draft a will for you without charge. In return you're asked to donate to charity (but it's not compulsory). See: www.willaid.co.uk Cheers Eddie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.791 / Virus Database: 535 - Release Date: 08/11/2004
Re: [Goanet]Konkani Course
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Konkani Course What Herman says makes a lot of sense. Let's encouarge them. Requesting hehman to join me in the effort. Zankam Konknni xikchi humed asa tanche khatir xikxonn patth ani audio casette asat. Xivai, Sarki Amchi Bhas Sompi hem Fr. Rodrigues-achem pustok asa. Konnak xikonk zai tannim khobor kaddun gheum ieta. Borivli Konknni Kurs suru korum-ia. Hermanachean toiar korun mhaka kolloum ieta. Konknni vachtoleank V. Ixtt, Gulab, Goan Review him masik asat. Gheum-ia ani vachum-ia. Fausto - Original Message - From: "Herman D'Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet]Konkani Course > Ghoddeak udkachim passun vorot zalear faido nam > kiteak ghodeak tan lagot zalear-uch udok pieatolo > nam zalear ghoddo, vho khoinchent zanvor vho munis > kosem udik pieatelem? > > teka lagon zhe goeamkar konkani uloinam te, tankan > konkanichi tan dakonc zaie tednach te konkani xinkonc > etelet. > > instead of criticizing them we should encourage them > to speak konkani. > > As i had said in my previous mail that there are three > type of goans living in bombay > > one who loves to proudly speak write and read konkani > one who are ashamed to talk konkani in public > and one who has never come in contact with konkani > > we should be proud of our language and no doubt we > have to speak english at business but whenever > opportunity permits we should openly speak konkani. > > with best regards > Herman D'Souza > > > --- "Fausto V. D'Costa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ## > > # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] # > > # Want to check the archives? > > http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# > > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > > reflect respect to others # > > > ## > > > > > > GRAF has been conducting Konkani courses in Bombay > > for the past 4 years. > > Although the courses are aimed at teaching Konkani > > to the Goans, we end up > > teaching Konkani to non-goans who have either > > settled in Goa, or have > > business in Goa and/or have a holiday home in Goa. > > GRAF also conducts Konkani Seminars atleast twice a > > year but the attendance > > is very poor. Basically Goans are not proud of their > > language, suffer from a > > complex. > > The Konkani masses in Bombay are conducted by the > > Mangaloreans. The hymnal, > > Lectionary etc. are in Kan'nad Konkani. I have > > conducted Konkani courses for > > even five students. If Borivli goans are interested > > in learning Konkani, > > enroll 20 people and we will conduct the course even > > without a nominal fee. > > First time in history a Konkani show was organised > > by KBM Mumbai at > > Shanmukhananda hall which was attending by 2400 > > people speaking Konkani. And > > out of this only 5% were goans. > > Ghoddeak udka xim > > vhorom ieta, punn udok pivonk nett korunk > > nozo.Kursachi vatt polloun > > ravtam, na zalear Khursachi Vatt korum-ia. > > Fausto > > > > Herman wrote: > > > my suggestion is if there are any goans interested > > to > > > learn konkani in bombay there should be konkani > > > courses conducted in bombay. But the question is > > who > > > will come forward to conduct these konkani > > language > > > course? and will it be fruitful? > > Edie wrote: > > Learning to speak > > > > konkanni, is the FIRST STEP. > > > > > This is where you come in. I'm aure you can > > > > convince GRAF( read Fausto) to > > > > > conduct a crash course in konkanni speaking, > > at > > > > Borivali.Adults too could > > > > > join to brush up on their speech...A nominal > > fee > > > > could be charged GRAF > > > > > could introduce & increase sale of their > > konkanni > > > > CDs / Cassettes / Books/ > > > > > Mags.. Maybe a club could follow, with > > > > book/magazines sharing > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online > Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony
[Goanet]Eulogy, Final commendation or final condemnation?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## "The death of Yasser Arafat is a significant moment in Palestinians' history," U.S. President George W. Bush said in a statement. "We hope that the future will bring peace and the fulfilment of the aspirations for an independent democratic Palestine that is at peace with its neighbours." (Reuters). Comment: The U.S President has a knack of making significant pronouncements. One would hope that the final farewell would be a commendation rather than a condemnation. In a related matter, in Eulogies usually, praise is lavished. It is unbecoming when the Eulogizer brings in one's past which is not exemplary. Especially one's convictions which are then reproduced in print and then put out on the internet, which is then available to the Whole World, through search engines such as Google. Eulogize: to speak or write in high praise of : EXTOL (Webster). As opposed to making public one's failings! cheers, Gabe.
Re: [Goanet]How Cheap(est) these GOA deals can be? Thanks Seb
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Thanks Seb. Very nice of you (despite being a non-UK Goan). Well, we too have to pay about Rs.47,000 if we travel with scheduled flights like AI/BA/EK/GF etc on LON-BOM-GOI-BOM-LON sector including Rs.2500 Bombay hotel stay. But one can travel cheap with other cheaper airlines like Syrian, Aeroflot etc for say around Rs.40,000 (cheapest being 38,000). WE are lucky to have Charter Services (usually Oct-April) where we can travel and we are now travelling within the fare range Rs.28,000 to just Rs.16,000 thus saving of up to Rs.31,000 compared to abv AI/EK/BA etc And what more? Flight direct almost to your door step (Goa), save two days which one would lose if traveling via BOM i.e. stay at hotel BOM for your Goa Connection flt and leaving a day earlier from Goa to catch your next day flt at BOM. We UK Goans also lucky to make cheap phone calls to Goa/India (home or mobile) just Rs.4 per minute Also, we are lucky to have all Indian food products (vegetables, spices, fruits incluing jackfruits/mangoes, coconuts etc some times lot cheaper than GOA)Most such shops are located almost at our door steps. In some countries, for this type of products, Goans travel long distances like 'China Towns' etc Once again, Seb, Dev Borem Korum. --- Seb dc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are doing a wonderful job nodoubt. I wish someone here would do the > same > too. On second thought, why not start myself!! Well you need lots of > time > and contacts. But I feel from UK to Goa is more cheaper than from Dubai > to > Goa. Just imagine I hv a booking in Dec. from here direct on > Kuwait-Dubai-Goa for a whopping 2,200 dirhams. works out to around Rs. > 26,500. So there you are, there is nothing called cheap. > > hAVE a nICE dAY!! > Seb > > > > > Well, its very difficult to put a price (cheapest)as it all depend on > > market forces i.e. Supply & Demand and can change by the hour. > > > > > > How would I know ?? > > > > > > > = for Goa & Goa Flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa New Official (Church) Site on the SFX Exposition.. http://www.archgoadaman.org/Dioceses/SFX/index.html GOAN NRI related.. http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ ___ Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win 10k with Yahoo! Mail to make your dream a reality. Get Yahoo! Mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]wines
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Folks, Come December and many Goans living abroad head back home to Goa and the unbeatable environment here. For the past 5 years , the options for wine drinkers have increased considerably, in India in general, and in Goa specifically, where alcohol is a mite cheaper. So here are some personal views about the wine scene in Goa. It may help the visitor to get the best deal while eating out as well. I restrict myself to the dry whites and reds, and not the sweet wines manufactured locally. Inspite of WTO pressures, wines continue to be excessively priced in India, including the local varieties. In fact, some really lousy foreign wines are being dumped into the Indian markets. One therefore needs to be careful not to pay too much for a foreign table wine which is sought to be sold as a vintage wine. There are basically three categories of wines, and the cost varies as per these categories. In the first category are the local Indian wines. Some 15 years ago, foreign grape strains like Shiraz, Cabernet Sauvignon, Sauvignon blanc, etc were planted in the Naraingaon district of Maharashtra and the cool regions outside bangalore by the 2 leading wine manufacturers Indage and Grovers. The Sula group also joined them later. It took over 10 years for these Indian manufacturers to bottle reasonably good wines. They are finally producing wines which have a bouquet and fruity flavour. Most of these wines are priced at Rs.200 - Rs.460 per bottle. This, I feel, is a steep price for a local wine. Among the best red wines in this category are Grovers Reserve which costs Rs. 460. The cabernet shiraz, also Grovers, which costs Rs. 300 is good value for money. Among whites, Indage Vin Ballet only costs Rs.190, but has no bouquet or flavour. It is, however, very popular in the shacks because of its low cost. Sulas Chenin Blanc and Pacifica are better whites , but cost Rs. 375. The second category are those wines which are imported in vacuum casks, usually from Australia, Chile, or South Africa, bottled in India, and sold locally. This avoids some element of import duty, and these wines are normally sold in the price range Rs. 400- 500. I wouldnt categorise any of these as high quality wines, but they are better than the Indian wines, and marginally more expensive. Sulas Satory Merlot from Chile at Rs. 400, Indages Australian Cranswick Shiraz and Merlot at Rs.450, and South African Zulu Pinotage at Rs. 450 are some of the best red wines in this catgory. For a good white, try the South African Two Oceans Chardonnay at Rs.490. Please avoid the Portuguese Castelinho and Manuelinho which seem to have been poured out of garafaos into bottles and dumped into the Indian market. They are cheap, but only fit for cooking. The last category of wines available are the directly imported bottles, which are normally priced between Rs. 600 - 1500. This is due to the high import duty of some 260% and hefty margins added on. Most Indians can only admire them from afar and not savour their fine flavours, since their retail prices are doubled and sometimes trebled in starred hotels. So a Californian Robert Mondavi which retails for Rs. 1200, or a Ernest & Julio Gallo Cabernet Sauvignon which cost Rs. 1500 in a wine shop, would cost Rs. 3500 in a starred hotel. Really a shame spending all that money. All the same, for the well heeled, there is a wide variety of wines imported . So on your next trip to Goa, buy the bottle in retail, and use your corkscrew at home or in your hotel room. Happy imbibing. regards, Gilbert Menezes.
[Goanet]Talking about scheduled Flts...
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Just fowrding a mail recvd frm a UK Goan. Pl. note it only his own personal opinion about the airlines mentioned. This time he is travelling with newly introduced sector/airline called 'Ethihad' thanks. = Quote (in original except mob.phoneNo) Joe, tnx 4 yr mail, as mentioned,that I've only flown on schedule flights. I fly in2 Bombay,not GOA& from there on, I make my way by train.coz its very convenient 4me.& I have a fantastic journey if U or any other Goan's would like 2 know more about these journies then by all means contact me. My mbile no. is 07956 2121..Well I paid £435/- for a return flight on EY... its a tkt open for 90 days...( this siuts me fine,coz I normally go for a longer period) I could've got this fare cheaper but as I mentioned 2U in me previous mail that I left it tooo late! hence the penalty All said & done, this fare is not available any more.But wz the same token, dont loose heart, one could only try & with some Luck! stike it LUCKY!! joe dont ever try AI or BAnot only r their prices SKY HIGH,but their services ?!!!~+#0###0?.>> I've tried AI several times BOM 2 NYC(JFK) via LON(LHR)..Sorry = for Goa & Goa Flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa New Official (Church) Site on the SFX Exposition.. http://www.archgoadaman.org/Dioceses/SFX/index.html GOAN NRI related.. http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ ___ Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win 10k with Yahoo! Mail to make your dream a reality. Get Yahoo! Mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Luxury stay for IFFI delegates
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Luxury stay for IFFI delegates SANJAY BANERJEE TIMES NEWS NETWORK PANAJI: Fort Aguada beach resort in North Goa, the official hospitality partner for the 35th international film festival of India (IFFI), has made grand preparations of food and setting the celebratory mood for the delegates. A satisfactory report card of the delegates is of crucial importance for the coastal state to bag the honours of future IFFI celebrations and the resort has pulled out all stops to make it a very enjoyable and memorable stay. General manager of the resort, Atul Lall said the state government has booked 100 rooms for the visiting delegates for the festival from November 29 to December 9. The hotel will ferry the delegates to Panjim in boats for a pleasure filled journey over the waters. The delegates would disembark at the wooden jetty on the riverside of Kala academy in the capital, which will host the inaugural session in the newly constructed auditorium, said CEO of the entertainment society of Goa, Sanjit Rodrigues. Read full text at: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/918805.cms Forwarded By Eddie Verdes
[Goanet]Goan wins The Teen of the Year
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Bandra plays host to India's best teens By: Sowmya Rajaram For eight years, Bandra has been host to Teen of The Year, a national contest conducted by Teenager magazine for both male and female teenagers from around the country. This year, the contest was held on Nov 5 and 6 at the St Paul’s Provincialate Building off Turner Road. The building housed 20 boys and girls who had won the zonal rounds conducted in six centres around the country. According to Father Alfonso Elengikal, the editor of Teenager and the brain behind the initiative, “Some time in 1995, Time magazine selected the Pope as the Man of the Year. That set me thinking. A lot of students in the country don’t get a platform to showcase their talents and abilities. Since I was already editing the magazine, I thought of starting the contest to give students from around the country this opportunity.” And opportunity is certainly what these teens seem to have been looking for. Nasreen Hashambhoy, a member of the organising committee, dislikes the term contest to describe the event. Read full text at: http://web.mid-day.com/metro/bandra/2004/november/96805.htm About the contest Zonal rounds were conducted in 6 centers around the country- Chennai, Pune, Calcuttta, Mumbai, Shillong, Delhi. 22 people were shortlisted from all the centers and 20 came to Mumbai. There were seven rounds in the contest. They were Mumbai darshan, Group dynamics, Pass a ball around in the quickest time, General Knowledge quiz,Talent Round, etc About the Winners Teenagers from all over the country participated in this contest. The Teen of The Year award went to Amaro Fernandes from Goa, the second prize to Priya Tauro, a Mumbai resident and the third prize to Caroline Tage from Arunachal Pradesh. The prize money was Rs 5,000, Rs 3,000 and Rs 2,000 respectively. Amaro Fernandes (15) says, “The best contest was the Mumbai Darshan when our bus passed Wankhede stadium and we could hear the cheers as the last wicket fell.” Forwarded By Eddie Verdes
