[Goanet]Aitaracheo Kaskutleo: Kuttumbant, Politik Upkarona
Kuttumbant, Politik Upkarona Jyanti ani Teo-chem logn, Ponn-an aslelea eke kolejint xiktana bandlelem. Jyanti Hindu ani Teo Kristi aslo. Zori tancho dhorm veg-veglo khoro, ponn tanchea kuttumbant, dhormachi, zat-khatichi forok mat nasli. Xezareak aslelea Thelmachea ghorant bhitor sorunk, darar vo darachi gant'ti vazovpachi ghoroz Jyantik nasleli. Donui kuttumb, ekuch zalelea toren vagttale. Tinnem, getir aslelea box-antlo, "Gomantak Times" kaddlo ani vachit Thelmachea ghorant bhitor sorun, mottean aroddli. "Vitt aili hea Goenchea rajkarnnachi. Pot dovdire protinidhini vaitt laili Goemchi. Amcho lok, kiteak mhonn nivddun kaddta kai tankam?" Sokall fuddench salant karandai konnachi ti pollevpak Thelmacho ghorkar Tommy, kuddantlo bhair ailo ani salant pollelear Jyanti disaleam vachpachea boballacher, boball kori. "Aichea disalear, rajinamo divn konnachi bhatmi zoran ailea tor?" . "Rajinamo khoimcho? Goeant Raxtripoti Raj (President Rule) laglem. "Kitem?", ojeapun ek dhanvti nodor paparacher Tommy-n marli. "Kitle mhonn amche rajkarnni (politicians) ollxigechea rebddan jietelem? Bharatachea dusrea rajeam moddem Goeam unchlea zagear urta, ponn Goenchem montripodak zhogoddtelea fuddareani nanv piddear korun ghetlam". "Adle Mukhi Montri Parrikaran, Ontoraxttrik Chollchirt Utsov (IFFI) Goeant haddun Goeamchem nanv sovnsarachea nokxar ghazoilelem", fattlea Novembr-Dezembrant, Ponnjent zalelea Chollchitr Utsovachi iad korun Tommy-n mhonnttlem. "Ponn atam kitem? Sorkar moddpant, ghoddpant, rajinamo divpant, amdarank bepot'teaxir (kidnappings) korunk bhouch fuddem pavlam mhonn jogachea konxe-konxeani Goeamchem nanv lokvik zalam nhoi?". "Vidhan Sobhent vixvas tharav pas korchea vellaruch ximbre, beiman amdar, gonitanim khelltat. Tuka poir mhonnttlelem hanvem. Ravonaslelea vellar venchnnukek tondd divnchem poddtelem ani Vidhan Sobhek osomik morn ietlem (unnatural death) ani Raxtripoti Raj Goeam lagu zatlem mhonn. Mhojem gonit sarkem zalem na?" Tommy-n, panch vorsancho kallbor ekui sorkar sodrer urona ani soddeak cholltele rajkarnnantli porostithi pollevn poir thedduch bhazarant mell'lle koden Jyantik, aplo husko porgoitalolo. "Apsarvti amdarank thoddi tori loz asunk zai asli. Aple adhorx (moral) ani obhiman (dignity) ganank dovorleat tannim. Dongi (hypocrite) zaun aple dhei (principles) visorleat te. Adle amche vokhond rajkarnni sorgist Jack de Sequeira, Dayanand Bandodkar, P . P. Shirodkar ani her zaitea zannanim aple pokxa katir teag korun ani hanga thoim dudvam khatir makodd koche udki marinasta Goeamchi udorgott keli teach barrabor aplea pokxachem nanv rakhlem". Thoddi bhov adli rajkarnnantlem (politically) zanvi asleli Jyanti uloili. "Aichem rajkaran (politics) fokot kodelicher dollo dorun chollta. Amdaranim, apleak nivddun kaddtelea motdorsonghachea lokachi seva korche boldek tanchi jinnuch dudvanche axek lobdoilea kai dista. United Goans Democratic Party (UGDP) tiketticher Jharkhand motdorsongan (constituencies) chear zageamcher umedvar nivddun aileat khoim. UGDP tiketticher nivddun ailele amdar Goeantuch tigonant zalear tuka dista Jharkhand-an te sarke tigtole mhonn? Vo Goeamche Vidhan Sobheche churchureanchi doxea kelea tech toren te thoimsorui korun ghetle kai?", "Khorem mhollear Parrikaracho sorkar ekdom boro aslo ani panch vorsam sodrer astolo kai diso. To sodrer aso meren virodhi pokxachea vangddeank khainch luttunk mello naslem, ani heach khatir tachea sorkarak sodrevelo niklailo. Ponn, ani ek asa. Parrikarachei-i mendvank poddvechi chorbi choddleli ani naka tea suater bott lanvchem nhoi aslem thoim tannem aplo hatuch ghatlo. Suttke zhuzache chollvollichi VCD iskolant, kolejint xiktele vidhearteank dakhoun tanchea tornea gineanar goir-somoz khorcho ani fokot Goeant ekvottan cholltele donui dhorma moddem duspot korcho, ho tacho mukh hetu aslo ani" "Puro puro tumchem politik. Kedoi meren pottan pavonaslelo khobro uloitat. Tumi dogaim TV-ir vochun hi chorchea kiteak korinant? Konnui astolo tumchem aikupak. Gheait hi ghorom kofi ani heo chopateo khaeit". Thelma, tray-nt ghalun aslelim tin kofichim kopam ani chopatanchi plate mezar dovorun, Jyantiche tondda islean pollevn fuddem uloilem. "Tumgelo Teo, koso asa go? Khub dis zale pollevnk nam taka", Jyanti boslelea stool-a laguinch asolea sofacher Thelma-n aple kule tenkhoitanam tika vicharlem. "Tovui hea disanim ghorakodden politik game khellta", tinnem kofik ghontt ghetana khontt dakhoun mhonnttlem. "Hea khepek Vidhan Sobheche venchnnukent dhavnni korpacho asa kitem?", moskoreanim Thelman prons kelo. "Ago, amgelo ani tumgelo Tommy ekuch offisant nokri kortat. Nokri somplea uprant tumgelo soddanch vellar ghora pavta. Ponn amgelo hea disani khoim heddtta ti Isvorak khobor. Ani ojeap zaupachi ghoxtt mhollear, masam kaupi, soro pieupi monis hea disani apleak, fokot baji-palo, nistem, kharem, miskut, papad zai mhonn kestanvam korta. Okosmat tagelo jevnna-khannacho bodoll pollevn mhaka bhirant koxi laglea. Ghoddie,
[Goanet]Maglev Train
[Marlon Menezes, Mar 5] Is it a Bird? A Plane? Nope, only Shanghai's flashy new Maglev, the world's fastest train. Way ahead of its time seven decades ago, the still-futuristic magnetic levitation system may yet redefine travel everywhere. By Ron Gluckman/Shanghai,China http://www.gluckman.com/Maglev.html .. Is there a need for such speed? Certainly not on such a short sprint, barely 30 kilometers from the subway in Pudong to the airport. And not at the cost, note critics. The Pudong line, which should go into operation by the end of this year, is unlikely to ever recoup its $1.2 billion investment. ... --
[Goanet]Mahindra escape with a draw against Sporting Clube de Goa
Mahindra escape with a draw March 05, 2005 19:40 IST A lucky equaliser by substitute Khalid Jamil five minutes from the end helped Mahindra United hold Sporting Clube de Goa to a 1-1 draw in an ONGC National Football League clash in Mumbai, on Saturday. Mahindra looked lethargic in the first half, in which they conceded a goal scored by Nicholas Rodrigues in the 28th minute. Rodrigues, who aimed the post from the right of the box, saw his shot going in off defender Jatin Bisht's leg, which left Mahindra custodian Sandip Nandy hapless. Changing ends, Mahindra picked up the tempo but failed to find the equaliser till the match got to the fag end. It finally came five minutes before the end saving them from a second defeat at home. A diagonal lob from hard-working medio Debabrata Roy found the gangling Abhishek Yadav stationed close to the six-yard box and his try hit Sporting midfielder Abebayo Adewusi's left hand prompting the referee to point to the spot. Jamil, who came on as substitute for midfielder Kulothungan at the hour mark, made no mistake and Mahindra went home with a hard earned point in their kitty which boosted their overall tally to 18 from 11 matches. Sporting, who dominated the first half and managed to keep the home team at bay for the better part of the second session, took their tally to 14 from eight matches. The only consolation for Sporting who saw a win evade them in the last few minutes was hardworking Joseph Pereira and roving defender Bibiano Fernandes jointly winning the player of the match award. Sporting had the better share of the exchanges with their Nigerian trio of Abebayo, Chidi and captain Dudu Omagbemi combining well with Joseph Pereira and Bibiano Fernandes to trouble the stuttering Mahindra defence. But the Goans had to wait till the 28th minute to find the net. A short pass from Bibiano found Nicholas Rodrigues take a stiff angular shot which was deflected into the goal by Bisht with his outstretched left leg. A minute later the Goans were foiled when Joseph Pereira was stopped in the nick of time from scoring by Nandy after he received a cross from Chidi. The change of ends saw Mahindra move with better purpose, but it needed a few substititions by coach Syed Nayeemuddin to really galvanise the home team's frontline. The locals should have equalised in the first minute after resumption of play but Yadav failed to score after getting a long ball inside the penalty box with only rival custodian Luis Berretto, who too had a good match, to beat. With Mahindras putting almost everyone up front to get the equaliser, Sporting staged a couple of dangerous counter-attacks, without success. Sporting's best chance to increase the lead came 15 minutes from the end, but Nandy showed fine reflexes to successively foil Dudu and Chidi before Jamil notched Mahindra's equaliser. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
[Goanet]Narain Karthikeyan finished 15th
Fisichella wins Australian GP Narain Karthikeyan finished 15th for Jordan as the highest-ranked of the four men making their Grands Prix debuts in Australia. March 06, 2005 10:18 IST Italy's Giancarlo Fisichella won the season-opening Australian Grand Prix for Renault on Sunday as Ferrari's seven times world champion Michael Schumacher failed to finish. Brazilian Rubens Barrichello finished second for champions Ferrari, ahead of Fisichella's Spanish team mate Fernando Alonso. Briton David Coulthard gave the new Red Bull team a strong debut with fourth place after running as high as second while Australian Mark Webber was fifth for Williams. Narain Karthikeyan, India's first Formula One driver who started 12th on the grid, finished 15th for Jordan as the highest-ranked of the four men making their Grands Prix debuts in Australia. While Fisichella started on pole and won with a 5.5 second margin, celebrating only the second win of his career, Schumacher was never in contention. The German, winner of 13 of last season's 18 races, capped a miserable weekend with retirement 13 laps from the finish after a collision with compatriot Nick Heidfeld's Williams. Heidfeld shunted Schumacher off into the gravel at turn three and although the Ferrari driver was pushed back on to the track, he pitted and retired. Heidfeld also stopped. The world champion's race had already been wrecked by starting 19th after a sudden storm rained on his hopes during Saturday qualifying. Colombian Juan Pablo Montoya finished sixth on his McLaren debut and Austrian Christian Klien handed Red Bull two more points with seventh place. Finland's Kimi Raikkonen was eighth after starting from the pitlane as a result of stalling on the grid during an aborted first start to the race. Curiously, Fisichella's victory was his first on the day of a race. His only previous win was at the rain-hit 2003 Brazilian grand prix where he was declared the winner several days after the event when a timing error was discovered. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [Goanet]Re: Matanhy's Press Statement
That was greatkeep it up.! Seb - Original Message - From: "flower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Over a period of time, Matanhy Saldanha has shown himself to be a bundle of > contradictions. > > Matanhy fasted for thirteen days in the Anti Meta Strips Campaign. Yet, once > he was elected, he unilaterally came out with a statement saying the plant > was non polluting, without taking into confidence the people who were in the > vanguard and suffered along with him during this movement. Such was the > man's commitment to his principles. > > When a person trusted and respected like Matanhy, betrays all that he > stood for and articulated, then he does more damage in creating cynicism and > despair in the electorate than all the run of the mill politicians who come > and vanish in the dustbin of history. We Goans believed that this man was of > a breed apart. Tragically, we were terribly mistaken. > > Diana >
[Goanet]Mathany, principle and interest
Diana: For all you know, when Mathany talks of principle and interest, he must be talking of language of finance! A principle of x gives an interest of y%!!! Mathany has annuled his long social service in just one term as an MLA. samir - Original Message - From: "flower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:27 PM Subject: [Goanet]Re: Matanhy's Press Statement > like a true leader since he so self righteously claims that he is a strict > adherent to principled politics and > his constant refrain is "all things I do are in the interest of the > people of Goa" . He conveniently uses and abuses the UGDP to suit his >
Re: [Goanet]BJP and the press in Goa...
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 03:49:34 +0530 (IST), Frederick Noronha (FN) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BJP and the press in Goa... some reports on the emerging mixed > relationship, specially after the BJP calculations went awry on Friday > http://puggy.symonds.net/pipermail/goajourno/2005-March/001927.html RESPONSE: Do we need to see and know more about the BJP ? Heaven forbid, if General elections are allowed and the BJP get in once again. That surely will be a nail in the coffin for secularism. -- Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet]RE: Caste and effects of debate.
Mario, The caste system, in your own words, has been around 5000 years. I think it does have legitimacy and respect from people who practice and who are keen in keeping it alive. On the other hand, you don't want to explain to me "the pros and cons of the caste system" for reasons best known to you. BTW, your Arab friends particularly the Palestinians are admirers of Nazi-ism. They are waiting for the second coming of Hitler. Are neo-Nazis capable of helping the cause of Palestinians? Your remark "I am headed in the opposite direction" baffles me. Are you saying you are running away from caste system? I understand your obsessive aspiration to catch the bull by the horns. Your pitiful health condition and age may be keeping you at bay. Mario, go ahead and give it a try. You may not last long but at least you will have the satisfaction of giving your best shot. If nothing comes out of it, at least the bull will pull your foot out of the grave. Mario, you have been trumpeting your sickness and old age on the forum since you started posting. Person who is sick is called sick. Please tell me what you liked to be called. Are your pretensions to be sick finally haunting you? Do you want to live a normal life without being sick? Avelino Bastora/Kuwait __ Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Avelino, For me to take time to explain to you "the pros and cons of the caste system" would be giving the caste system far too much respect and legitimacy. I am headed in the opposite direction. This curious request by you is like someone asking for an explanation of the pros and cons of Nazi-ism By the way your "slogan" catches the bull If the caste system is sick, then the sick people are not those who are fighting to abolish the system
Re: [Goanet]GOA/Konkani: A NEW 'Naming Game' ( Starting soon )
SORO FENI JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Soon Coming up a series of 'Naming Games' in KONKANI on Goa or Goa related topics. e.g. Topic: Feast (FEST) All you have to do is recollect and name any thing that relates to FEST (above) like FOZNE, KADDDIO-BODDIO, CHONNE, BONDERAM, MIS, SAN'NAM, VODDE, SORPOTEL, PIRJENT (PRESIDENT), OFF-MUS ETC. ANY UNUSUAL NAME CAN HAVE ENGLISH EQUIVALENT IN BRACKET. OR IF THE SAME WORD IS KNOWN BY DIFFERENT NAMES, MENTION THAT TOO. In the mean time, try to add more to above topic 'FEST' Those of you who are English speaking only, may seek help from your parents, grand parents,friends/relatives, Cooks etc Dont worry about the spellings You can start/suggest your own topics Thanks for participating. = for NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ for SFX Expo & cheap Goa flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa/
[Goanet]It was a trouble-free race: Narain
It was a trouble-free race: Narain March 06, 2005 13:33 IST Narain Karthikeyan, who finished 15th at the Australian Grand Prix, said he was happy with his performance in the Formula One debut race even though he had a "very bad" start on Sunday. The Jordan driver, who started in 12th place, slipped to the 18th spot on his first lap at the Albert Park circuit in Melbourne. But the 28-year-old said said he was glad to complete all the 57 laps in the race which saw three drivers including seven-time world champion Michael Schumacher failing to finish. "I had a very bad start and then stayed behind [Jordan teammate Tiago] Monteiro for a while. After the first pit stop, I pushed a lot and it was a trouble-free race," Karthikeyan said after the race. "It is very good to finish the first Grand Prix of the season and I am looking forward to the next race, even though the weather conditions will be much warmer and humid." Trevor Carlin, Jordan's Sporting Director, said his team was not targetting to do even better in the next Grand Prix in Malaysia. "We are very glad we finished the year's first Grand Prix. We got both cars to the finish and that is an achievement, even though it would have been nice to finish a bit higher up the results table," Carlin said. "Now we are looking forward to going to Malaysia and if possible improving the car a little bit." He finished 15th, one place ahead of fellow-Jordan rookie Tiago Monteiro of Portugal. Karthikeyan can take heart from the fact that he ended the race fastest amongst the rookies. Renault's Giancarlo Fisichella won the race, finishing the 57 laps of the 5.303-km circuit in 1 hour, 24 minutes, 17.336 seconds, 5.55 seconds. He was followed to the chequered flag by Ferrari's Rubens Barrichello and Renault's Fernando Alonso. Defending champion Michael Schumacher of Ferrari failed to finish, crashing out with 15 laps remaining after starting on the back row of the grid. Seven-time world champion Schumacher, who started 19th on the grid after rain wrecked his qualifying chances on Saturday, collided with Mark Webber. Today's competition followed a new format that restricted the drivers to one engine for two races and one tire set-up per race. Earlier, Karthikeyan, who had secured the ninth place in the first qualifying on Saturday, dropped three places in Sunday's qualifying despite coming up with a better timing at 1 minute 32.735, which was almost 12 seconds faster than his previous effort. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
[Goanet]India complete 5-0 rout over China
India complete 5-0 rout over China March 06, 2005 14:50 IST India completed a clean sweep against China in the Davis Cup Asia Oceania Group I tie in Delhi on Sunday after Harsh Mankad beat Lu Hao 6-2, 6-3 in the second reverse singles. Earlier, Prakash Amritraj gave India a 4-0 lead when he beat Sun Peng 6-2, 6-4 in the first reverse singles of the dead rubber. On Saturday, India had taken an unassailable 3-0 lead after Leander Paes and Mahesh Bhupathi won the doubles. The 22-year-old Prakash, who registered his first Davis Cup victory in five appearances on Saturday, kept his momentum going despite the fact that the result of the match was not going to have any bearing on the final outcome. The son of the legendary Vijay Amritraj, Prakash continued to impress with his serve and volley playing style as he broke Peng in the third and seventh games of the first set and never had a break point against him to take the set 6-2. The second set was no different as Peng once again struggled to come to terms with the grass court and lost his serve in the third game. Prakash, who hit seven aces in the match, never came under pressure on any of his service games as he wrapped up the match in just 48 minutes. India take on the winner of the match between Indonesia and Uzbekistan for a berth in the World Group play-offs. Results: India 5, China 0 Singles: Harsh Mankad (Ind) bt Sun Peng (Chn) 7-5, 6-3, 6-2; Prakash Amritraj (Ind) bt Wang Yu (Chn) 6-3, 6-4, 6-2. Doubles: Leander Paes/Mahesh Bhupathi (Ind) bt Wang Yu/Zhu Ben-Qiang (Chn) 7-6 (13-11), 6-3, 3-6, 6-1. Reverse singles: Prakash Amritraj (Ind) bt Sun Peng (Chn) 6-2, 6-4; Harsh Mankad (Ind) bt Lu Hao (Chn) 6-2, 6-3. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [Goanet]RE: Goan herrings & research
--- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi JC, > Remember you guys are making the charge of 'soglem casteists'. But let me help you-all with the collection of data. I hope I can apply my methodical skills from my medical background. > > The accusation you guys seem to make is that there is: Systematic casteism in Goan society - native and Diaspora. > Mario replies: I don't recall the notion of "soglem casteists" in the entire Goanet archive. This notion is a curious one given that anti-castists outnumber the one or two pro-castists or caste-apologists on Goanet by a huge margin. Even when we anti-castists disagree on everything else under the sun we seem to agree on this one issue, that caste is blatant discrimination any way you look at it, that caste is wrong on its face, that caste is incompatible with the very essence of Christianity, and that this heinous system must be abolished. So how did the notion of "soglem" get into the discussion? Does it take research to prove that "soglem" does not apply to anything? The very fact that this thread is continuing for so long is prima facie evidence that caste exists, and it is not "soglem" who are continuing the discussion but just a couple of Goanetters.
Re: [Goanet]RE: Caste and effects of debate.
--- "D'Souza, Avelino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mario, > The caste system, in your own words, has been around 5,000 years. I think it does have legitimacy and respect from people who practice and who are keen in keeping it alive. On the other hand, you don't want to explain to me "the pros and cons of the caste system" for reasons best known to you. BTW, your Arab friends particularly the Palestinians are admirers of Nazi-ism. They are waiting for the second coming of Hitler. Are neo-Nazis capable of helping the cause of Palestinians? Mario replies: Avelino, do you even understand what you are writing? The 5,000 years refers to Hindus. Christ preached that everyone was the same. Did you even get this part of your catechism? Goans have been Christian for up to 450 years or so. There are NO pros to castism, man, unless you can find "pros" in discriminating against people for reasons they cannot control like color and caste. What is the matter with you? Since you are such a proponent of castism maybe you should tell us the "pros" that you see in it. I have Palestinian friends and business clients, but I oppose most of what their militants believe about their "rights" in Palestine, other than what they can peacefully negotiate with Israel. It is only their extremists who have something in common with the Nazis, which is to commit genocide against Jews. And what does Palestine have to do with the Goan Catholic caste system? All we anti-castists want is for Catholics who still follow the caste system to realize how wrong and destructive and anti-Christian this system is. Avelino writes: > Your remark "I am headed in the opposite direction" baffles me. Are you saying you are running away from caste system? Mario replies: Since you are "baffled" with our opposition to discrimination, there is little that will not "baffle" you. You seem chronically baffled. I am NOT running away from anything, including the caste system and some crazy Goanetters. I am confronting it and it's apologists and trying to get those who are not baffled to oppose it as I do.
Re: [Goanet]Mathany, principle and interest
Dear Graceful, It should be a principal of x gives an interest of y% . (not principle !) Cheers, Gabe London England. On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 11:22:58 +0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Diana: > For all you know, when Mathany talks of principle and interest, > he must be talking of language of finance! A principle of x gives > an interest of y%!!! > > Mathany has annuled his long social service in just one term as > an MLA. > > samir > > - Original Message - > From: "flower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:27 PM > Subject: [Goanet]Re: Matanhy's Press Statement > > > like a true leader since he so self righteously claims that he is a > strict > > adherent to principled politics and > > his constant refrain is "all things I do are in the interest of the > > people of Goa" . He conveniently uses and abuses the UGDP to suit his > > > > -- Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet]Happy Mother's day to all moms.
Sound advice..hope it helps ! http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=246992005 We were here first, kids KATE FOSTER TINA Woolnough admits she was once a slave to her three children. She breast-fed them all and didn't have a night out with her husband Peter for five years because she couldn't bear the thought of a stranger putting them to bed. Dirty nappies and food-stained clothes were changed immediately. "I completely sacrificed myself at first," says Tina, 42. "When you breastfeed you have to be a martyr anyway for a short period of time, and with your first baby you are so frightened. "For years we had no social life at all. It was control freakery. I didn't feel comfortable putting them into full-time childcare. I felt that I had had a good life and seen a lot of the world so I was prepared to put the children first." She pauses, and adds: "But I think I did go over the top." Tina's sacrifices for six-year-old Felix, Astrid, nine, and Ingrid, 10, will be familiar to most parents. For many, the birth of a child creates a bond so strong it remains unbroken by a return to work, a romantic weekend break or even a single night out for many years. It is an approach that is encouraged by a child-centric culture in which youngsters are more than just the apple of their parents' eye: they are cosseted and praised, clothed in the latest expensive kiddie fashions by mums in threadbare jumpers, and taken to the latest mindless Disney cartoon by dads for whom Al Pacino has become a fond but distant memory. Not always grateful, the youngsters are ferried hundreds of miles every year to tumbletots, jungle gym, swimming and ballet by parents frantically making up for the time they spend at work. Meanwhile, discipline is all but a dirty word associated with Victorian-era punishment and deprivation. Many children rule the family home, as well as supermarket aisles, by simply throwing tantrums when they don't get their own way. It's a "them-first" style of parenting that has evolved since the 1960s, in the belief that such an approach produces confident, happy children whose talents will be fully explored. But, finally, the backlash has begun. The counter-attack is being led by a new breed of child experts that Dr Spock and Miriam Stoppard would frown upon. Christie Mellor, author of the self-explanatorily titled book We Were Here First, Kid, weighs in with phrases such as "Sadly the use of child-sized muzzles has never caught on, though I can't see why not." Her advice on dealing with tantrums? The cupboard. "If your child is prone to yelling and screaming lead him to a quiet corner," she says. "When your child realises he will be alone in some dark, cramped cupboard free of an adult audience he will soon tire of the sport and move on to quieter activities." Instead of mollycoddling as a reaction to bad behaviour, the latest experts advise firm discipline, including threats and deprivation. And they even suggest that children can be put to good use in the kitchen by teaching them how to mix not fairy cakes or muffins but mum and dad's favourite cocktail. Equally, they recommend a stern look like the one your own mother used to adopt that made you realise you were in big trouble. Mellor even suggests the odd kick under the table. Mellor's philosophy is straightforward: "We have become ineffectual lap dogs to our children. If you don't start saying no to your children as if you mean it the tantrums will only get worse. Let us be frank. You were here first. You are sharing your house with them, your food, your time, your books. Somewhere in fairly recent memory we have lost sight of that fact." Her darkly humorous chapter headings include 'Saying no to your child: It's a kick!', 'Bedtime: Is five-thirty too early?', 'Child labour: Not just for the third world!', 'Self-esteem and other over-rated concepts', 'Children's music: Why?' and 'Screaming: Is it Necessary?' Mellor is not alone. Another new parenting guru is self-confessed "Slacker Mom" Muffy Mead-Ferro, a working mother of two who has published a set of lessons learned from her own grandmother. Rather than child-proofing the house, buying educational toys and ferrying children to after-school activities she advises entertaining them by simply telling them: "Go outside." While many parents live in constant fear of their child being harmed, Mead-Ferro believes, somewhat controversially, this is a lesson best learned from close contact with hot taps and sharp edges. Equally un-PC advice comes in Perry W Buffington's Cheap Psychological Tricks for Parents, which states that the age of parents as friends is over and suggests a number of bribes and threats to make the little ones do as their elders wish. Instead of endlessly nagging children to leave their dirty shoes outside, you should occasionally put small treats in correctly stored shoes. If a wastebasket is within nine feet, children will try to use it; further than that, they won't
[Goanet]Canker within.........Indian Politics.
http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnews&id=80924 The canker within: threat to Indian democracy: [India News]: By Amulya Ganguli : The political turmoil in Bihar, Jharkhand and Goa and its disruptive impact on the Indian parliament are a direct result of two major factors - the decline of national parties, such as the Congress, and a fall in the calibre of politicians. Unless immediate cognisance is taken by the political class to counter the debilitating effect of these trends, the democratic system itself may be in danger. Both these developments have been in the making for some time. But it is only now that their harmful effects have become all too evident. It is not the military, as in Pakistan, or the monarchy, as in Nepal, or religious fundamentalism, as in Afghanistan, which pose a threat to Indian democracy, but the canker within. As the Congress has shrunk, losing its earlier aura as the party that won India's independence, a number of regional organisations have come to the fore to fill the vacuum. The result has been that the elections have begun to deliver a fractured verdict, with no single party securing a majority of its own. The current contretemps in Bihar and Jharkhand are a fallout of such an exigency. The problem, however, has been compounded by several other factors. For a start, the division of the states on the grounds of administrative efficiency has produced smaller assemblies, with the result that the allegiance of fewer legislators are needed to secure a majority, thereby facilitating the process of what has come to be known as horse-trading, or the virtual 'buying' of legislators by a resourceful party in a search of a majority. This unsavoury phenomenon wouldn't have assumed a menacing proportion but for the erosion of the moral fibre of politicians. If the legislators are zealously guarded after an election by the party functionaries, the reason is to prevent them from being lured away by the opposite camp with the offer of incentives, in cash or kind. As if the degeneration of the politicians was not enough, this malady has now spread to the speakers and governors as well, evidently because both belong to the same political class. The latest acts of the speaker and the governor in Goa, and of the governor in Jharkhand, have demonstrated how their partisan role can undermine the neutrality of their offices, thereby bringing the entire system into disrepute. In Goa, the crisis began with the speaker trying to save the BJP government by disqualifying a legislator whose vote might have tilted the balance in favour of the opposition. Then, before the vote could take effect, the governor, a Congressman, dismissed the government and installed one led by the Congress. His tactics were so blatantly partisan that the centre has now sought a way out by imposing President's rule. In Jharkhand, the role of the governor, another Congressman, has been equally controversial, for he invited an ally of the Congress, Shibu Soren of the Jharkhand Mukti Morcha, to form the government although the tally showed that the BJP and its ally, the Janata Dal (United), had more members on their side in the 81-member assembly. It is obvious that none of these problems would have arisen if the speakers and the governors acted in a genuinely non-partisan manner. While the speaker is always a member of the ruling party, it has been the norm till recently that, once elected, he made it a point to show that he belonged to no party and intended to act on the merits of a case. It is only in the last few years, however, that the speakers have failed to hide their biases. Their failures first became evident when they were called upon to abjudicate on the anti-defection law, which recognized a split in a party when one-third of its legislators decided to support another party. But there have been cases, including one relating to Uttar Pradesh which is now before the Supreme Court, where the speakers have allowed less than a third of the members to defect, or have advanced the dubious concept of a continuous defection where the members could cross the floor in batches. If the governors have failed to live up to their constitutional obligations, as the events in Goa and Jharkhand have shown, the reason is that the earlier convention about only appointing men and women of repute, unattached to any political party, to the posts has been gradually abandoned. Now, the Raj Bhavans, as the governors' residences are grandiosely called, have become the sinecures of retired or serving politicians and bureaucrats, who have been chosen solely for their loyalty to the party in power, whether the Congress or the BJP. And they seem to have no hesitation in flaunting their loyalty despite the opprobrium they inevitably earn. As it is, the election of legislators with a criminal background has cast a shadow on Indian democracy. Now, if the speakers and governors, too, begin to act in a partis
Re: [Goanet]GOA/Konkani: A NEW 'Naming Game' ( Starting soon )
Feri = Fair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:SORO FENI JoeGoaUk wrote: Soon Coming up a series of 'Naming Games' in KONKANI on Goa or Goa related topics. e.g. Topic: Feast (FEST)
[Goanet]Magnetic Levitation
It may be of interest that 37 years ago I worked for a company called International Research and Development which was a subsidiary of CA Parsons the builder of Steam Turbine Generators in the UK. We at that time worked on magnetic levitation systems for and I remember fondly alliumumum modules being moved at high speed down the laboratory. The problem we had was actually stopping the units after we had cut the current off. The point I am making is the amount of time that has passed from an initial idea becoming a working commercial concept Dave Is it a Bird? A Plane? Nope, only Shanghai's flashy new Maglev, the world's fastest train. Way ahead of its time seven decades ago, the still-futuristic magnetic levitation system may yet redefine travel everywhere. By Ron Gluckman/Shanghai,China -- David Futers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newbiggin by the Sea http://www.futers.org Northumberland NE64 6NL UNITED KINGDOM
[Goanet]NEWS: Macau nets $1.8 bln from gambling tax
http://in.news.yahoo.com//050306/43/2k0be.html Macau nets $1.8 bln from gambling tax By Indo-Asian News Service Macau (China), March 6 (IANS) Macau netted $1.8 billion last year from its vibrant gambling industry, which contributes nearly 70 percent of the local administration's tax income, Xinhua reported. The gaming industry earned $4.6 billion in gross revenue last year, contributing $1.8 billion to the government's tax coffer. Macau is the only place in China where gambling is legal.
[Goanet]NEWS: Catholics object to film on priestly "Sins"
Is the objection to just the depiction of the cross? Is it because "sentiments are hurt"? If so, is that a valid ground? Don't such realities happen in the real world? Are those protesting the film also making a point that priests stay within their vows, or the Church re-evaluate celibacy requirements? This case throws up many questions. FN http://in.news.yahoo.com//050304/137/2jz9l.html Friday March 4, 8:28 PM Catholics object to film on priestly "Sins" ADVERTISEMENT BOMBAY (Reuters) - Christians in India will step up protests against the screening of "Sins", a Bollywood film that shows a Catholic priest in a cassock and cross having sex with a woman half his age, a religious group said on Friday. The film prompted an attack this week by protestors on a theatre in Bombay, India's film capital and home to a large Catholic community. A further protest is planned on Saturday. Christians object to the scene mixing sex with the cross, their main religious symbol. "We want the objectionable scenes in the film to be deleted or the movie be completely withdrawn," Joseph Dias, general secretary of Catholic Secular Forum, told a news conference. Sex scenes and nudity are often cut from films shown in India and some films covering controversial subjects have been blocked or delayed due to concerns about their impact. Christians have appealed to India's president to intervene to protect the rights of minority communities. "Tomorrow it could be the spiritual heads of Hindus, Sikhs or Muslims who could be targeted by an artist," Dias said. Director Vinod Pande has said the film, showing across India since it was released a week ago, was not meant to offend anyone. A local court rejected an appeal by Christian groups for a stay on the film's release. The National Commission for Minorities said it wanted the country's film certification authority to explain why such a film was cleared. "We have received complaints from Christian groups," V.V. Augustine, a member of the Commission said. "We hope to take some steps to ensure caution is exercised in future." Christians make up about 2 percent of the more than 1 billion people in India. Hindus make up about 80 percent and Muslims 13 percent.
RE: [Goanet]Mathany, principle and interest
Samir, Instead of making such random statements, can you prove that Mathany has been corrupt in anyway? Please provide some proof. I do not believe that he is half as corrupt as all the Congress MLAs that are in the Rane ministry now. Please compare the wealths of MR. Rane, Dayanand Narvenkar, Dr. Willie, Luizinho Faleiro, Fransico Sardinha prior to their becoming MLAs and ministers. Or is it just good enough that they belong to the Congress and have a carte blanche for fleecing Goa? I can understand your very known disdain for the likes of Mr. Parrikar, but so far, I have believed that Mr. Mathany Saldanha is more principled than many others that are ministers in Goa or have been MLAs. Rumours abound in Goa that the Congress party has pumped in crores of rupees for dessertions. Isidore Fernandes, who was a pariah, a few months ago for leaving the Congress is now a Minister! Whatever happened to the CBI raids now? Or is it okay for the Congress to pay off people to resign? We cannot have double standards. We need clean and non-corrupt people to be our leaders. Nagesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 11:22:58 +0500 Diana: For all you know, when Mathany talks of principle and interest, he must be talking of language of finance! A principle of x gives an interest of y%!!! Mathany has annuled his long social service in just one term as an MLA. samir
[Goanet]Goa wakes up to Governor- Mr S C Jamirs rule 7/3/2005
Law makers (ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES) in Goa have been given a deserving rest. After the Tsunamis that have struck India's twenty fifth tiny state - the people in Goa are wondering whether a defamation case could be filed against the lawmakers -- for tarnishing the fair image of Goa and Goans by the mockery that they have resorted to since 27/1/2005 to 4/3/2005. Like the proverbial what came first the chicken or egg there will be discussions ad nausem on whether the BJP or the INC are to be blamed for the mess. Atleast as per the present --- many suscribe to the view that Mr Manohar Parrikar ex CM should have been allowed to carry on his developmental activities until term end 2007 but there were others among the secularists who said "what use is development if a "Cristao and a Konkno or Moir" cannot walk hand in hand and there they score a point over the BJP. Governance has suffered worst still development works will suffer on two counts. One if the bye-elections are declared to the five vacant seats (the code of conduct will come into force stopping all development activity) and two the monsoons approach in just another two months and no one risks development activity as all migrant (menial ) work force desert Goa to attend to their agricultural activities in their home state. Worst still economy will tend to suffer because the introduction of Value Added Tax come the new fiscal year April 2005 this will need a lot of cobwebs and clatter to be cleared for smooth sailings. This Monday, 2005 all the Ministerial cars will be returned to the "stable" and for once Goans will be seeing their elected representatives sans the redlights. But the lucky ones are those that became Chairpersons of the various Corporations for they will continue in office unless the Governor decides otherwise and decide he must to ensure fair play atleast when Presidents Rule --- with the House under suspended animation is in vogue 4/3/2005 to 3/9/2005 (for the time being) or revoked earlier if a stable Government can be ensured following the results of the bye elections --which in any case has to be held between now and latest by the first week of June 2005 to avoid the onset of monsoons. Now that Mr S C Jamir (one of the 16 tribes (a Baptist Christian ) of the North Eastern State of Nagaland also called the "Switzerland of the East" and ex Chief Minister of Nagaland since 1982 ) Governor will rule the State with his aides (appointment expected in the next 48 hrs) Goa can expect a lot from the Governor. He has rich experience in governance having been in politics from the time of late Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru as a Deputy Minister in the Union Cabinet and also as Chief Minister in the fifth Legislative Assembly of Nagaland. He has been witness to unseating and seating of governments like Goa has witnessed since 1990 )in his tiny state then of 40 directly elected law makers + 4 nominated and subsequently 60 elected lawmakers. His state has set up in capital Kohima the Administrative Training Institute to upgrade skills of the bureaucracy and therefore the right thing he has done under the Presidents rule regime is to invite the bureaucracy to give them a "piece of his mind" as his first step. This one single measure of work ethics and a sensitive executive (bureaucracy) can change overnight the lackadaisical attitude of the staff. Here one expects the Governor to hold the leash and strike when the ocassion arises. The people of Goa had been witness to Presidents rule in the past and given a choice between and elected government and the Presidents rule -- it is "Rashtrapati rajvott" that the masses prefer for a tiny state like Goa. Some of the Governors that have won the admiration of Goans( exluding the politicians who invariably despise the word "Presidents rule" for obvious reasons) were late Col P S Gill in 1977 - 1981 (father of ex Chief Election Commisioner Govt of India M S Gill )late Dr Gopal Singh (1984 - 1989) Lt General J F R G Jacob PVSM Retd 1998 to 1999 for they in their conduct while in office displayed exemplary rapport with those that they "ruled over" to earn the sobriquet of "People's Governor" It must be remembered too at this stage that Goans during the Portuguse rule were accustomed to a bit of regimentation --- the rule of law must prevail -- and no Goan will regret this adage -- because with a bit of regimentation comes discipline and with dicipline less corruption and orderly conduct of public life. Goans respect the rule and law and they expect those in high offices to set this trend. There is no doubt that His Excellency Mr S C Jamir who has a self confessed love for Goa (hailing from Nagaland which except for its climate resembles the natural settings of much of what his home state enjoys) will definitely address himself to the needs of the people of Goa during this brief tenure. But one expects Mr Jamir to display neutrality in conduct though he may be inclined to lean a litt
[Goanet]«Goans will continue to fight for environmental issues» (Edwin & Diana Pinto)
New interview: Edwin & Diana Pinto: «Goans will continue to fight for environmental issues» 26/2/2005 Supergoa.com http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_future.asp?c_news=492 Edwin and Diana Pinto are public relations professionals, who left Mumbai fourteen years ago to settle in South Goa. Through my relatives I meet them regularly when in Goa and have the pleasure of discussing on various subjects with them, especially environmental issues. In a written interview, they gave me a more insider's perspective on the main questions regarding Goa's environmental past, present and future. Read full interview: http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_future.asp?c_news=492 *This interview is part of THE FUTURE OF GOA initiative I have launched on Supergoa.com. Find out more about the interviews to follow and how you can contribute. Please forward this announcement. http://www.supergoa.com/en/index.asp Constantino Hermanns Xavier _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]CASTE AND COLOUR AMONG GOANS
CASTE AND COLOUR AMONG GOANS. Recently I posted an article in Konkani titled Zathi ani Kathi Goemkaram Modem which appeared on Goanet, Gulf Goans eNewsletter and The Goan Forum. I have translated the same in English as per the request of Goanet Administrator Mr. Bosco D'Mello, and other well-wishers. I am positive that this will give a better understanding of my article, specially to those who cant read Konkani. For quite some time we have been reading the topic GOANS & CASTE on the Internet and even on Herald news paper On this particular topic many have given their views and motives like Dr. Gilbert Lawrence, Mr. Santosh Helekar, Mr. Basilio Monteiro, Mr. George Pinto, Mr. Cornerl DaCosta London, Mr. Melvyn Misquita, Fr. Ambrose Pinto New Delhi, Mr. Dom Martin and many others are discussing just Goans and Caste. These differences of Caste and Creed not only exist in Goa but all over India, which even our Indian Govt. has turned a deaf ear. In states such as Uttar Pradesh, Rajasthan, Bihar, Andra Pradesh, Kerala etc. lot of heinous acts take place which dont even appear in our media reports, but there are a few Organizations who strive hard to fight this evil and give a better life to the victims. In Goa Casteism still exist to the present time, but the debate on the internet doesnt say anything of vital importance, such as, Why do we have these differences among us? Or how can we put an end to this? None wants to discuss this. I liked the writing of Mr. Cornel DaCosta (London based) but more than that of MR. DOM MARTIN who at least mentioned one important point related to Goans in his comment: Lower Caste boy MARRYING a Bhatkars daughter. In Goa during the reign of Portuguese our Bhatkar (Landlords), Bamon (Brahmins) and Chaddi considered themselves as LORDS, who ruled over the tenants strenuously and kept them strangled for quite a while. They even deprived proper education for their tenants children, today few know these facts and those who do know are relaxing in a numb state and criticizing the follies of others. This new generation has no knowledge of the past (Portuguese reign) and its very important that we bring to their attention the facts and figures concerning the TYRANNY of these so called LORDS. Because among us there will be many whose parents might have been the victims of these tyrants, whose parents might have been the victims of torture and abusive insults etc . But they boldly faced it just for the sake of their children, to give them proper education and a place of dignity and honor in this society which is filled with hatred that we live in Today many children of these same tenants are seen holding good posts and white collar jobs, but do they have any idea of what their parents went through for what they are today? I dont think so. During the reign of Portugez Landlords and Brahmins utilized Caste system vigorously as a form of oppression, and even today it still exists but with less Ferocity. The reason is today everyone has basic or advanced qualifications . During their hay days these Landlords and Brahmins treacherously squeezed Gavdho (Kunbi) people, they even forged false documents and inherited huge properties of these Gavdho people, cause they did not even have basic education to sign their own name, which was added advantage to the literate tyrants . In addition to this these Landlords and Brahmins employed / enslaved the daughters of their tenants in their own homes as servants (Kiryadam) who suffered lot of torture and abuse, but none could utter a word against them, because they were highly influential with the police officials. The tenants daughters even gave illicit birth to their children who were called Mistis (Mix-breed). My friends is this the same thing you all wish to discuss on the Internet? In all of the states in India Caste known as Dalit is considered to be the lowest among all, the same fate is in Goa, Madho (MARR) this caste is considered lowest of all, who ever he may be regardless of Caste, Creed or Religion, after all he is a human with bones / flesh & blood, a creation of the Highest Fr. Ambrose Pinto a Jesuit Priest who was in Banglore for a while and is now based in New-Delhi was interviewed by Mr. Yoginder Sikand concerning this same topic of Caste, his question was Why do Castes exist among Christians? and this is what Fr. Ambrose replied to him. "According to the preachings of the Holy Bible, God made man with his own features, but did not create Caste and Creed among men, he further mentioned that Jesus too was against this, because he could not tolerate the oppression of the poor, he further told that Jesus was Crucified without mercy because he always opposed the oppressors". Fr. Ambrose advises us all that we wont be able to walk in the footsteps of Jesus until and unless we strongly strive to oppose the oppressors and stop this hatred an
[Goanet]Exchange Rates - March 1/2005
Exchange rates from http://finance.yahoo.com 1 Foreign Currency = Indian Rupees (INR) Mar 1 Nov 1 Oct 1 Jul 2 Apr 1 Jan 6 Jul 2 __2005___2004___2004___2004___2004___2004___2003 USD - US Dollar = 43.71 45.50 45.85 45.65 43.41 45.51 46.31 CAD - Canadian Dollar = 35.15 37.13 36.45 34.47 33.18 35.51 34.62 EUR - Euro= 57.56 57.82 56.95 56.26 53.62 58.03 53.45 GBP - British Pound = 83.84 83.57 82.46 83.65 80.54 83.02 77.06 DKK - Danish Krone= 7.73 7.78 7.65 7.56 7.19 7.79 7.19 PLN - Polish Zloty= 14.71 13.43 13.09 12.42 RUB - Russian Rouble = 1.57 1.58 1.56 1.57 1.52 1.55 1.52 SEK - Swedish Krona = 6.36 6.39 6.30 6.12 5.80 6.35 5.39 CHF - Swiss Francs= 37.44 37.75 36.70 37.03 34.34 37.04 Mar 1 Nov 1 Oct 1 Jul 2 Apr 1 Jan 6 Jul 2 __2005___2004___2004___2004___2004___2004___2003 AUD - Australian Dollar = 34.22 33.91 33.29 32.55 33.26 35.07 31.55 NZD - New Zealand Dollar = 31.77 31.08 30.98 29.52 28.94 30.65 27.57 SGD - Singapore Dollar= 26.93 27.30 27.26 26.67 25.96 Mar 1 Nov 1 Oct 1 Jul 2 Apr 1 Jan 6 Jul 2 __2005___2004___2004___2004___2004___2004___2003 BHD - Bahraini Dinar = 115.96 120.71 121.62 121.09 115.08 120.70 122.81 KWD - Kuwaiti Dinar = 149.76 154.46 155.63 154.90 147.26 154.40 154.46 OMR - Omani Riyal = 113.55 118.20 119.11 118.58 112.75 118.20 120.26 QAR - Qatari Riyal= 12.01 12.50 12.59 12.54 11.92 12.49 12.76 SAR - Saudi Arabian Riyal = 11.65 12.13 12.22 12.17 11.57 12.13 12.34 AED - UAE Dirham = 11.90 12.39 12.48 12.42 11.81 12.38 12.06 CNY - Chinese Yuan= 5.28 5.49 5.53 5.51 5.24 5.50 5.59 HKD - Hong Kong Dollar= 5.60 5.84 5.88 5.85 5.57 5.86 5.93 JPY - Japanese Yen=.42.42.41.42.41.42.39 MOP - Macau Pataca= 5.46 5.68 5.72 5.70 5.42 5.69 5.76 PKR - Pakistani Rupee =.74.75.77.79.75.79.80 Mar 1 Nov 1 Oct 1 Jul 2 Apr 1 Jan 6 Jul 2 __2005___2004___2004___2004___2004___20042003 TZS - Tanzanian Shilling =.04.04.04.04.03.04.04 ZAR - South African Rand = 7.51 7.38 7.10 7.45 6.84 6.99 BRL - Brazilian Real = 16.64 15.96 16.16 15.03 15.02 Anybody interested in seeing any other currencies, email me. - Bosco --- Goanet - http://www.goanet.org - Goa's premier mailing list is 10 years old
[Goanet]NEWS: Outsourcing firms battle to keep staff (OFFTOPIC)
http://in.news.yahoo.com//050304/137/2jywr.html Outsourcing firms battle to keep staff Search for Age to Ethinicity Click to enlarge photo By Rosemary Arackaparambil BOMBAY (Reuters) - Indian back-office firms face a growing challenge holding on to employees, even as they hire tens of thousands every quarter. Some firms say they need to replace up to half their people every year. Call centres, which snap up English-speaking youngsters with the gift of the gab, are the worst hit, and they account for nearly 40 percent of back-office jobs in the country. "It is a major problem," said Jerry Rao, chairman of back-office and IT services firm MphasiS BFL Ltd. Staff tend to account for half of a back-office operation's costs, according to research firm Evalueserve, and the battle for talent has led to a 10-15 percent rise in employee salaries. Recruitment and training makes up 3 percent of the overall per employee cost of about $13,000 per year, including administration and telecoms costs, according to Evalueserve. But the really damaging cost is the lost business for companies who cannot fill key jobs quickly enough. Many face a shortage of mid-level manpower to manage their rapid growth as they lure clients with promises of 40 to 50 percent cost savings. As the industry clocks up 50 percent-plus growth, demand for quality personnel is outstripping supply. Employees often hop to new jobs for slightly more money, and many do not view back-office work as a career. FIGHTING ATTRITION Companies provide free transport, subsidised meals and housing to retain staff, and try to enliven the environment with musical entertainment, yoga classes and costume contests. But that is not always enough. Spectramind, the back-office arm of India's third-largest software services company, Wipro Ltd., reported a 90 percent annualised attrition rate at the end of December. "The high attrition rates we have had really limited our ability to continue to add people once we get to the scale and range we are in," Wipro Vice-Chairman Vivek Paul said, predicting slowing growth for the division in the current quarter. India's business process outsourcing sector has 400 players, though the top 20 account for nearly half the sector's revenue, seen touching $5.7 billion this year. The industry is on track to employ 350,000 people by the end of March, up from 253,500 a year earlier. With international businesses increasing call-centre and other back-office operations in India, the industry is expected to need a million people by March 2008. But B. Sudhakar, chief operating officer at PeopleOne Consulting, says the pool of good candidates -- particularly for call centres -- is limited. "Not everyone who speaks English has accent-free diction, so very few are 'camera-ready'," he said. NEW BUSINESS MODEL WANTED Experts say the way out is to move up the value chain by expanding from voice-based business to more transaction-based business, where employees may see better career opportunities. The National Association of Software and Service companies estimates that technical support, accounts management, payroll and benefits services are areas with high growth potential. Firms are also beginning to take on more "knowledge-oriented" jobs such as equity research and data mining, which may interest recruits more, but they form just a fraction of the industry now. Gautam Sinha, chief executive of Bangalore recruitment firm TVA Infotech suggests that outsourcing firms centred around Bangalore, Bombay and Delhi should fan out to other cities, where expectations are lower and employees are less opportunistic. He said the industry needed to expand tie-ups with schools and offer part-time professional courses and subsidised tuition fees and recommended companies send veterans to campuses to tell students about potential career prospects, since many enter the industry for the easy money and then leave after a few years. "People also move out when they realise this is not the career they wanted, or they want to get more education," said K. Thiagarajan, chief operating officer at Hinduja TMT Ltd.. Sara Quinny, 23, quit her job two months ago after 2-1/2 years of phoning Americans about their overdue credit card payments. "It was my first job interview, I got it and it was pretty exciting at first. But I ended up doing the same thing every day. Just sitting there for nine hours and making calls all the time," said Quinny, who said she'd wanted to join the airline industry when she finished college.
[Goanet]Re-Catholic's object to the film on Priestly "Sins"
Original Quote:- Christians have appealed to India's president to intervene to protect the rights of minority communities. "Tomorrow it could be the spiritual heads of Hindus, Sikhs or Muslims who could be targeted by an artist," Dias said. Director Vinod Pande has said the film, showing across India since it was released a week ago, was not meant to offend anyone. Mr. Fredrick you are absolutely right but don't you think that we have just risen from our sleep, such scenes and acts have been shown so many times, and no one botherd to raise a question concerning this matter, on the other hand if the same same film was based on a Hindu Pandit what would have been the fate? The Director itself is a Hindu and he won't let his keen down, like he said the film was not meant to offend anyone, its cheap talk, among Hindus its there within them to keep concubines (Kolvontam) but he won't disgrace his religion. Every where Christianity is taken for granted, when the Hindus and Muslims discuss religious topics the only religion they compare is Christianity, cause they don't know much about other religions, but our superiors too just listen to their gosip and sit numb, but now I feel they have felt the pain. Best regards. Sanny Vaz _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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BLACK FRIDAY: A TRUE STORY OF THE VANDALISM AND
GOONDAISM ON FRIDAY, MARCH 4: Gomantak Times-Weekender
says it has been "at the receiving end" of the post
-defeat BJP "vandalims" and "recounts how democracy
was actually murdered by the BJP on the streets of
Panaji". It has some interesting photographs and
reportage. Says the GT-Weekender: "Manohar Parrikar
without power is also Parrikar without
responsibility. If the events that followed the
winning of the trust vote of the Congress is any
indication, the goonda (ruffian) elements in the
BJP -- including rowdy councillors -- could well
be the biggest law and order headache for
Governor Jamir."
ACT 1 SECENE 1: The Parrikar-led BJP looses the trust vote in the assembly.
Within 30 minutes, MLAs, supporters, party hangers-on and an assortment of
rowdies gather outside the Raj Bhavan gate almost threatening to break it
open. They begin by setting fire to some bushes and trees and for good
measure they quip, "Jala do, Goa ko jala do." (Let Goa burn)
o Rane says government formation possible if any party musters
a majority (GT). House dissolution impossible, says Rane (H)
o Herald says Governor Jamir is "believed to have disagreed
with the modus operandi of the treasury benches" in
winning their trust vote. It quotes sources in the Raj Bhavan
as saying the Governor "recommended ... President's Rule".(H)
o Governor Jamir is likely to be assisted by advisors
for the tenure of President's Rule. (H)
o Judge N A Britto will hear Matanhy's high court petition. (H)
o Shiv Sena demands dissolution of Goa assembly. (GT)
o Dalit organisations welcomes Digambar Kamat's move. (GT)
o Luizinho, NCP and Goa Union of Journalists seek action against
those responsible for attack on journalist. (GT)
Jeronimo 'Jerry' Almeida, originally from Assolna has
taken over as the Director - Public Diplomacy
Initiative of the British High Commission in New Delhi.(GT)
PARRIKAR's BRUSHES with the Press: Team GT notes the
various "brushes" that Parrikar had with the media
in Goa, during his tenure as chief minister. (GT)
ENGLISH THEATRE is gradually dying (in Goa), says Afwold Silveira,
playwright, theatrical director and radio jockey in an interview
with INACIA RODRIGUES. Says he: "Unfortunately, Goans are not
confident of a local cast. If it's a production from out of Goa, the
response will be terrific, but very few realise that the talent
is in the local cast." (GT)
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QUOTE OF THE DAY
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When one tries too many tricks one after the other in quick succession to
turn the tide, it demonstrates a sense of desperation From what little I
know of you, I do not think that arrogance is an inherent trait in you; you
appear to have adopted it consciously while in power. -- Rajesh Singh,
former media advisor to ex-CM Parrikar and the BJP government-appointed
ex-Director of Information in An Open Letter to Manohar Parrikar. NT.
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VILLAGE GOA
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CALANGUTE: Villagers have shown their determination by raising half-a-
million rupees to build a football ground at Poriat, despite
official lethargy over the issue.
CANDOLIM: Residents of Anawaddo are agitated over allegedly illegal
activities in the area, particularly motorcycle races, says NT
quoting information from local legislator Agnelo Fernandes. (NT)
CANACONA civic body to act tough against stray cattle. (H)
DIVAR A lifelong concert of love and togetherness is the focus
of editor Sujay Gupta this weekend. (GT)
MERCES three acquitted in October 2001 assault case on Bharat
Hoble. The trio were Gurish Dhabolkar, Peter Barretto (of Merces)
and Sachin Padgaonkar (Santa Cruz). H
MOIRA: Ten day meditation course (Vipassana) planned at Moira April 24.GT
QUEPEM: Second annual Fugadi Dhalo Festival organised by the
Directorate of Arts and Culture, Panjim will be
Re: [Goanet]«Goans will continue to fight for environmental issues» (Edwin & Diana Pinto)
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 17:31:29 +, Constantino Xavier wrote: > New interview: > > Edwin & Diana Pinto: «Goans will continue to fight for environmental issues» > > 26/2/2005 Supergoa.com > http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_future.asp?c_news=492 RESPONSE: Quote After the Meta Strips campaign, the people elected an environmentalist to the Assembly believing that he would speak out and influence decision making, particularly on environmental issues. This initiative of the people however, has not borne fruit since the representative in question has now become a cog in the wheel of the establishment and remains inexplicably silent on all environmental and other issues that will decided the future direction of the state. Unquote. I take it that the people elected Mathany Saldanha who now has the gall to ask them to bear with him! As I wrote in a previous post he is no better than the rest of them - they will all sell their mothers if need be. Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London England.
[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * March 6, 2005 * Black Friday, Rane's view...
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 01:41:56 +0530, Goanet News Service <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BLACK FRIDAY: A TRUE STORY OF THE VANDALISM AND > GOONDAISM ON FRIDAY, MARCH 4: Gomantak Times-Weekender > says it has been "at the receiving end" of the post > -defeat BJP "vandalims" and "recounts how democracy > was actually murdered by the BJP on the streets of > Panaji". It has some interesting photographs and > reportage. Says the GT-Weekender: "Manohar Parrikar > without power is also Parrikar without > responsibility. If the events that followed the > winning of the trust vote of the Congress is any > indication, the goonda (ruffian) elements in the > BJP -- including rowdy councillors -- could well > be the biggest law and order headache for > Governor Jamir." > > ACT 1 SECENE 1: The Parrikar-led BJP looses the trust vote in the assembly. > Within 30 minutes, MLAs, supporters, party hangers-on and an assortment of > rowdies gather outside the Raj Bhavan gate almost threatening to break it > open. They begin by setting fire to some bushes and trees and for good > measure they quip, "Jala do, Goa ko jala do." (Let Goa burn) RESPONSE: These goondas are not Goans - since they do not speak Konkani - they have been imported to bolster up the BJP Party in Goa. As I have written previously, whether they are in power or out, Goa and Goans will pay a heavy price until and unless we eliminate the Communalists once and for all. The Congress party have another bite at the cherry, should they fail Goans again then we are headed up the Swanee! All we can hope and pray, is that the Congress wallahs are not readying themselves to fill their boots once more. Perhaps permanent President's Rule would be a good thing. Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet]Need Address of Bar Buccama
Hi - Can anyone help out this young lady? Original Message Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 03:42:40 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Viviana I m from switzerland and I heart that maybe the restaurant bar buccama near baga Bridge will be to sell out can you tell me how can I get the adresse from the owner. Sorry about my english. Best regards Anna Kuenz sunrise ADSL: gratis und so sicher wie noch nie http://www.sunrise.ch/home/proint/proint_ads-2.htm
[Goanet]Need An Address
Can anyone help this young lady?? :-) Viviana Original Message Subject:Restaurant Buccama Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 03:46:34 +0100 From: Verena Favre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Viviana I m from switzerland and I heart that maybe the restaurant bar buccama near baga Bridge will be to sell out can you tell me how can I get the adresse from the owener. Sorry about my english
[Goanet]Fwd: a cross
From: Cynthia Fernandes Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:46 PM A young man was at the end of his rope, seeing no way out, he dropped to his knees in prayer "Lord, I can't go on," he said. "I have too heavy a cross to bear." The Lord replied, "My son, if you can't bear its weight, just place your cross inside this room. Then, open that other door and pick out any cross you wish." The man was filled with relief and said, "Thank you Lord," and he did as he was told. Upon entering the other room, he saw many crosses; some so large the tops were not visible. Then, he spotted a tiny cross leaning against a far wall. "I'd like that one, Lord," he whispered. The Lord replied, "My son, that is the cross you just brought in." When life's problems seem overwhelming, it helps to look around and see what other people are coping with. You may consider yourself far more fortunate than you imagined. YOUR CROSS Whatever your cross Whatever your pain There will always be sunshine After the rain Perhaps you may stumble Perhaps even fall But God's always there To help you through it all. Funny how you can send a thousand "jokes" through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about passing it on. Funny, isn't it, when you go to forward this message, how many on your buddy list will not receive it because you're not sure they believe in anything? Funny? No! Sad, and thought-provoking... May God give you the strength and courage to pass this along to everyone on your email buddy list... I JUST DID! Cynthia
[Goanet]A few crores for supporting the Congress
Matanhy's Press Note excerpt " It is not possible for me to now jump onto the Congress bandwagon for the sake of ministership and a few crores in hand." In the interest of safeguarding our country from the carpetbaggers it is Matanhy's duty to expose exactly who in the Congress offered him exactly how much for his support. The Indian public would also dearly love to know in what form this price was to be paid. Was it in a suitcase or a transfer to an offshore account. Did Matanhy care to tape-record the conversation on his answering machine or mobile phone. The truth must be exposed and the Supreme Court must open a hearing into these sordid affairs that result in the nation being dragged down to the depths of depravity that our leaders wallow in.
[Goanet]RE: G.O.A Rolling Trophy Draw
Hi Julio, Wishing you and GOA all the best. How is everyone there and how is Mr. Raymond? Say hello to all Regards Anselmo >From: "Julio Cardoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 14:48:15 - > >G.O.A Rolling Trophy Draw > >The draw of the prestigious 'GOA Rolling Trophy' soccer tournament being >organized by Goan Overseas Association (Kuwait) will be held at the >Village Inn Restaurant in downtown Kuwait City on 2nd March 2005 at >7:00pm sharp. The 12th edition of this major tournament is once again
[Goanet]Women's Day Rally today (7th)
Goanetters, we trust you will join the Women's Day Rally organised by Bailancho Saad today (the 7th), commencing from Ambedkar Garden, near KTC Bus-Stand, Panaji and winding through the streets of Panaji and converging at Azad Maidan, followed by a public programme. This is just a reminder. albertina --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.600 / Virus Database: 381 - Release Date: 2/28/04
[Goanet]Flaviano needs to read history again.
To, The Editor, Panaji-Goa. Sir, This has reference to the the one and quarter page lead story published in the PANORAMA of the Navhind Times dated 06 March,2005. The rather lengthy piece, entitled " In Freedom Struggle, Goans Fought as Indians", written by an apologetic for the Parrikar Administration's seedy VCD entitled GOA FREEDOM STRUGGLE tries vainly to make out a case against the critics of this bastardization of Goa's history by appealing to the patriotic emotions which the author obviously does not posses although drawing a Freedom Fighter's pension. Which true patriot would like to cause a schism between communities and religions in independent, secular India and a liberated Goa? Only RSS members, sympathisers and cronies are capable of dividing India well after the British, Portuguese and French colonialists have left our land. Perhaps Flaviano is justifying the special pension of Rs.10,000/- given by the Parrikar-led dispensation to three senior journalists, two of whom were part of the infamous "Scrutinizing Committee" for the VCD. How well Flaviano Dias knows his history can be seen in the sentence that begins, " In Paris, his comrades were Ho Chi Minh of INDONESIA, Chou en Lai". This is all the more glaring because Flaviano Dias claims to be a Marxist. Even Geography would help Flaviano to understand this part of history. Ho Chi Minh City is the new name of Saigon in VIETNAM. Instead of enjoying the BJP hospitality and largesse, perhaps Flaviano should visit the 'Hanoi Hilton' to refresh his memory. Flaviano is admittedly an agnostic. I accept that he does not believe in God or the creation of Adam and Eve. That does not give him the right to create history. Flaviano is an agnostic, TB Cunha was an atheist. Both of them were born to catholic parents, were baptised as infants and confirmed as catholic club members by the time they were a dozen years old. Catholicism, like Hinduism, is a club that is too large to administer and where most members do not even know the club constitution. No one really knows the membership status, unless one actually insists on publicising one's resignation as TB Cunha did openly and Flaviano does when asked. By refering to Tristao Braganza Cunha's[ he was quoted by Bevinda Collaco as calling him "Cristao" Braganza Cunha on the eve of the Gomant Vishwa Sammelan in January] burial in the Scottish cemetery, he cannot make out a case for his burial with Catholic rites. He can, however, rest assured that he could be buried in the cemetery at Santa Inez, albeit in the Corporation of the City of Panaji owned section. The principle is simple, when one voluntarily renounces one's life membership of a club, one cannot participate in the General Body meeting. One may, however, drink at the club's bar as a guest. It is not understood why Flaviano, an agnostic like L.K.Advani, is mixing religion with patriotism in a country that we refer to as our "matrabhumi" [Motherland] and not as "patria"[Fatherland]. At best, we can be matriotic. Also, Flaviano disputes Agnelo Castro's statement " All fought freedom struggle as Goans" made in the context of efforts by pseudo-patriots[ including Flaviano] to capitalise on the essay of TB Cunha to label catholics as traitors, while writing "There were several Goans and other Indian patriots" five paragraphs later. If Flaviano is a true matriot/patriot, let him reimburse/refund the Freedom Fighters pension that he has collected all this while [in addition to his salary he earned from PTI that should have sufficed for his needs] and the Parrikar-dispensation dole. Who seeks compensation for helping one's own mother in time of need? If India is Flaviano's matrabhumi, his Motherland, why is he seeking and receiving a pension for doing what a proud son of the soil should do without expecting anything in return?? Why preach patriotism while receiving compensation like a petty mercenary? Does Flaviano have the answers? Mercenaries and the RSS make strange bedfellows. They never fight for anything except their own benefit, for which they fight vociferously. Viva Goa. Jai Hind. Miguel Braganza Mapusa-Goa.
[Goanet]RE: * March 6, 2005 * Black Friday & Goa ko jala do
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 01:41:56 +0530, Goanet News Service [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For the record - sans comment from this writer: Goa ko jalne do = Let Goa burn "Jala do, Goa ko jala do." = Burn, Burn down Goa jc http://www.colaco.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Narain finishes 15th ...
Melbourne, 6-Mar-2005 Australian Grand Prix After qualifying 12th and 14th respectively following this mornings final qualifying session, the first under the new aggregate system, Narain Karthikeyan and Tiago Monteiro gave a strong drive in todays Albert Park race to bring their Jordan Toyota EJ15s home in 15th and 16th place at the rookies first Formula One Grand Prix. NARAIN KARTHIKEYAN (EJ15/02) 15th I had a very bad start and then stayed behind Monteiro for a while. After the first pit stop, I pushed a lot and it was a trouble-free race. It is very good to finish the first Grand Prix of the season and I am looking forward to the next race, even though the weather conditions will be much warmer and humid. TIAGO MONTEIRO (EJ15/03) 16 th The goal was to finish the race and this is what we managed to achieve. We are not the only team apparently, as all the cars seemed pretty reliable. As I said during the weekend, we need to finish races and collect as much information as possible. There are so many things I have learnt today and that is the most important. For the next race, I would like to make some changes to my seat position and my seat belt. I had a great start but then I lost a lot of time when people were overtaking me so I have to work on that but otherwise I am very happy to have finished the race. TREVOR CARLIN - SPORTING DIRECTOR We are very glad we finished the years first Grand Prix. We got both cars to the finish and that is an achievement, even though it would have been nice to finish a bit higher up the results table. Now we are looking forward to going to Malaysia and if possible improving the car a little bit. COLIN KOLLES - TEAM PRINCIPAL & MANAGING DIRECTOR Before the Grand Prix our aim was to get both cars to the end - so I am very happy that they finished the race in the same conditions they started in and that there were no nasty surprises. == Renault reigns in F1's new era THE 10th Australian Grand Prix ushered in a new Formula One era as a red-hot Giancarlo Fisichella screamed to his first Albert Park victory and home-grown hero Mark Webber stamped himself a legitimate championship threat. The Italian seemed invincible yesterday, leading from start to finish after securing pole position in two faultless qualifying sessions. He completed the 57 laps of the 5.3km circuit in 1hr24min17.336sec, reaching a sizzling top of 310km/h in his blue Renault. It was the second grand prix win for Fisichella, whose previous best result in Melbourne was fourth in 1999. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Re: Magnetic Levitation
[Dave Futers, Mar 6] If magnetic levitation is 7 decades old, then it took over 30 years just to reach the point you spoke about. It has taken over 30 years since then to where first-mover China is now with the technology. Soon maybe the rapid growth phase will kick in with maglev routes sprouting up "all over the place". Interesting.
Re: [Goanet]Goa's own Ailine.
--- David Futers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think they should consider getting some of the > basic items in the > present airport first. Could I start with toilets, I heartily agree with David re toilets. For some reason, toilets in India (in general) are the most dismal of places, whether it be in a private home or a public building. The only reasonable toilet I have visited so far in the Indian public buildings is the domestic airport at Santa Cruz (or whatever it is called now). The current one at Dabolim, which I visited last in Aug 2003, was not a visit to be remembered. And the toilets ought to be catered both for the western-style (sitting) as well for the India-style (squatting) - and each type marked on the respective doors (as at the Changi airport at Singapore). Modern methods of cleaning the airport floors ought to be carried out, not necessarily using mechanical devices - one being using a large v-fronted dry mop as is used at some shopping centres in Melbourne - rather than the backbreaking broomstick which raises dust. Other parts of the infrastructure that require to be upgraded, in addition to what David has mentioned are a good clean restaurant (emphasis on clean) supplying tea or coffee to the customer's requirements (e.g. with/without milk or sugar), shops selling a good range of reading material and comfortable chairs to await delayed departures, etc not only in the check-in lounge, but also in the departure lounge. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Great to get the news, saddening to read it
Respected Sir, Thanks for sending the news about Goa it is great to get the news ,but it is sad to read what is happening in the government, I wish these people would leave our small beautiful state and the innocent goans in peace who dont like all this trouble. Thanks, ROSY PEREIRA
