[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - August 3, 2005!
Ami sogott teach mollba talla jietanv, punn soglleank amkam tich mollbachi deg assonam. (We all live under the same sky, but we do not all have the same horizon.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Kind Attn.:Miguel Braganza - Vanilla, Madikere
Sir, I wish to visit Coorg area to study cultivation of Vanilla. I plan to drive down from Goa around mid September. DO you have any experience with the roads recently? I have across your note regarding the experience and success of Dr Ashok Kumar. Is it possible to contact him? Also are you aware of activities in Vanilla in Goa? Thanks Gaurav Kedia
RE: [Goanet]Re: Re: britain and immigrants
QED As yet, I do NOT know any chauvinistic Goans, hence, it appears that they exist only in your subtle mind. However, what I know that there are MALE chauvinist Kerelites who most of them DEMANDS dowries from their would be wife and in-laws. They mostly select their brides from the highest quotations. Do you have any personal experience in this matter? ... do you have any comments or have guts to make any sound comments in this matter? Cip UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Radhakrishnan Nair Sent: 01 August 2005 07:43 To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Re: Re: britain and immigrants (The statement is NOT true, in fact totally wrong. Cip) What statement is totally wrong, Cip? -- RKN --- Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: COMMENT: If the word 'Foreigners' is replaced with 'Outsiders', the above comment would fit the Goan situation nicely. Of course, for 'white Britain' read 'some chauvinistic Goans'. Cheers, RKN _ 7000 classifieds http://www.sulekha.com/classifieds/cllist.aspx?nma=INref=msn -Chennai, Mumbai, Hyderabad Bangalore. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]britain and immigrants
--- Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw a book titled Bloody Foreigners, published in Britain in 2004 but reissued this year in paperback. I haven't read, but hope it buy it. Did anyone on the goanet read it? This is the type of hysteria that white Britain creates and then the consequences is what we see now happening in that country. No doubt the immigrant Muslim community, and many others, were disturbed with Tony Blair's support to USA in its War Against Terror, the underlying problem seems immigrant distrust and frustration. The social ills of racial discrimination and prejudice takes its own toll. Sad but true. Mario replies: Eugene, First of all, a book may be just the opinion of it's author, not of all Brits, though I am well aware from having lived there that white Brits often indiscriminately resent the Bloody Foreigners, and believe they have good reason to. However, as an immigrant myself, aren't you putting the cart before the horse? How did white Britain create negative consequences for itself by providing large numbers of often hostile immigrants sanctuary in Britain? It seems to me they did the foreigners a huge favor, don't you think? To now be repaid by what? Suicidal bomb attacks, not against the British government or its agencies, but against innocent British civilians (which include foreigners) and some innocent foreign visitors to Britain. Besides, why were the Muslims, and many others, disturbed by the UK's joining the US in liberating two Muslim populations in Afghanistan and Iraq, that were both being brutally oppressed by Muslim tyrants and denied any semblance of freedom and democracy, while enjoying the freedom and democracy for themselves in Britain? I'm sure you are aware that almost all the Muslims in Britain came from Muslim countries that were oppressive dictatorships. One would think they would rejoice in the liberation of their 50 million Muslim brothers in Afghanistan and Iraq, and thank the Brits and Americans for risking their lives on behalf of Muslims in distant lands.
[Goanet]Father Anthony da Silva To Head Jesuits In Goa Province
Father Anthony da Silva To Head Jesuits In Goa Province By Joseph Coelho, SAR News PUNE, Maharashtra (SAR NEWS) -- Jesuit Father Anthony da Silva has been appointed Provincial for the 140-odd Jesuits of the Goa Province, July 28. SAR News spoke to Father da Silva on the issues confronting the Jesuits in Goa and their role in nation-building. Excerpts: SAR: What are the issues the Jesuits in Goa are grappling with? Father da Silva: I feel the Goa province is now poised for expansion and growth in various areas like higher education and research, social ministry and pastoral work. We have excellent manpower, thanks to the hard work of my predecessors. Of the 140-odd Jesuits in the province, more than half are in training, with very high potential. The province is grappling with issues like how better to serve the poor migrant labourers who come from the neighbouring states to Goa; how to be more pastorally involved in rural Goa; how to revive our well established pastoral ministries and how to improve our secondary and higher educational facilities so that they prepare our students for the new and emerging India. SAR: How do you view the Goa Province in relation to the South Asian Jesuit context? Father da Silva: Since Goa is the first Jesuit province in Asia and St. Francis Xavier its first Provincial, there is a natural historical claim to uniqueness in Asia. This also means that responsibility to offer the Jesuits of Asia an opportunity to rediscover their Jesuit roots and reclaim their Asian Jesuit heritage. We hope our various centres in Goa like the Arrupe Jesuit Training Centre in Raia, the Xavier Centre of Historical Research, the Konkanni Kendra, the Bom Jesus Basilica will be able to assist in this quest. The present Arrupe Jesuit Training Centre (Tertianship) offers an entry point for Asian Jesuits to connect with the Society’s foundations in Asia. SAR: How do you see the Goa Province in the State of Goa today? Father da Silva: One must bear in mind that Goa is among the smallest States in the Indian Union. However, it has a large concentration of Catholics within its borders (roughly 30%). It has an extremely well-established Catholic school network and parish communities. High literacy and high economic well-being are indicators of the strength of the State. Unfortunately, Goa has become mired in political instability and deep-rooted corruption. It is here that I see some role for the Church and the Jesuits to act as “leaven in the dough,” a catalyst bringing growth. Public life needs to be influenced with Gospel and societal values that serve the people better. The Jesuits through their intellectual apostolate in schools and research centres seem better poised to enter into the mainstream of public life in Goa and positively influence its culture. [Born of Goan parents in Uganda, Africa, in 1945, Father da Silva did his Philosophy in Munich, Germany, and Theology in Pune. He obtained first rank in M.A. Psychology from Pune University and completed his doctorate in psychology with distinction from the University of Michigan, USA. Father da Silva had been the Coordinator for Formation and Consultor of the undivided Goa-Pune Province. He has been teaching at Jnana-Deepa Vidyapeeth, Pontifical Institute of Philosophy and Religion, Pune, for the past 22 years and was its Rector from 1993-1999. He is also a visiting professor at the University of Pune. His areas of study and research include psychology of religion, religion and social psychology of violence, and psychology of peace and reconciliation in societal conflicts. The Goa Province, separated from Goa-Pune Province in 1993, geographically comprises the State of Goa, Belgaum district of Karnataka, and Ratnagiri and Kolhapur districts of Maharashtra.]
[Goanet]RE: OFFTOPIC: Bombay (Mumbai) needs your help ... cyberspace
Bombay needs help folks. We can analyse what wrong later. We can figure out what to do about it later. Right now, Bombay needs help. One of the biggest problem areas for Bombay during the recent deluge was the airport. And in this sphere Goa airport could do hardly anything to relieve the strain. Goa airport is not small. It has an 11,000 fot runway which may be as big as Bombay's and even Delhi's main runways. But it can park only 6 aircraft. And normally Bombay flights per day run into the hundreds! What a pathetic back up level at Goa. It is truly unfortunate that in its hour of need Bombay airport got hardly any relief whatsoever from Goa airport -- only a litany of complaints about cancelled and rerouted flights. Its time Goa airport pulled up its socks and pulled its weight in the Indian aviation scene especially in emergencies.
[Goanet]Goans in Sri Lanka ....
A beautiful post - I thought i d share. rene 000 dear Rene, there are about 6 goan families left in Sri Lanka who settled nearly 10 years ago - their children have left these shores and go onwards to Australia and England their elderly parents are still around . There are a couple of us married to Sri Lankan who are comparatively recent migrants to this lovely island i.e 36 -50 years and a couple of goan expatriates who are working for foreign companies here so in total I would say we are 25 Goans in all with the number who have married and been absorbed into the fabric of Sri Lankan society. For myself I am closely in touch with my family and friends who live around the world and now with GOANVOICE which I access every friday to update myself with news I personally have little or no contribution in the way of literary works and art which is my passion. But do keep in touch// kind regards melba dias (nee Faria) 00 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
FW: [Goanet]Re: Re: britain and immigrants
Of course, for 'white Britain' read 'some chauvinistic Goans' from Radhakrishnan Nair There are some Goans who are defending our Goan Society's core positive values and principles to live life peacefully and happily. The work of defending core values is not easy. There are no written documents about our positive core values and principles of Goan Society. Hence, for foreigners, outsiders (people from Outside Goa state), Ghat'tis (people from across the Ghats), Malbaris (people from Malabar Cost), etc. is difficult to understand our Society's core values and principles. For some it is beyond their mental capacity to understand. Tourists (international as well as national) visit Goa NOT ONLY to see the beaches, temples and churches but to feel the goodwill, kindness, happiness, etc of Goan people. Many may not agree with but it is the fact, else why they come to Goa. If not, they are free to leave Goa as soon as possible. Foreigners and outsiders most of the time do not understand the positive core values and principles of Goan Society, hence due to their lack of understanding they may call the defender of our positive core values and principles as 'some chauvinistic Goans'. Few Goans, may also have lack of understanding of Goan positive core values and principles may support such evil comments. COMMENT: If the word 'Foreigners' is replaced with 'Outsiders', the above comment would fit the Goan situation nicely. from Radhakrishnan Nair, I live in Britain and I was born and brought up in Goa. I have experienced it and hence know the facts. One cannot compare a nation's (Britain) problem to a small state Goa in India. Hence your below mentioned statement is completely wrong. Cip UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Radhakrishnan Nair Sent: 01 August 2005 07:43 To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Re: Re: britain and immigrants (The statement is NOT true, in fact totally wrong. Cip) What statement is totally wrong, Cip? -- RKN --- Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: COMMENT: If the word 'Foreigners' is replaced with 'Outsiders', the above comment would fit the Goan situation nicely. Of course, for 'white Britain' read 'some chauvinistic Goans'. Cheers, RKN _ 7000 classifieds http://www.sulekha.com/classifieds/cllist.aspx?nma=INref=msn -Chennai, Mumbai, Hyderabad Bangalore.
[Goanet]WORLD GOA DAY 2005 - message from Heta of CHAG
000 Goenkars ! A message which I d like to share, with Goans and Friends of Goa everywhere. rene OO Dear Rene, Goa Heritage Action Group believes that everything that we find in and on Goa - cultural, architectural, social and historical- is Goan heritage whatever its source or origin and needs immediate and urgent attention.And we at the goa heritage action group will do our best to protect it, highlight it, save it, conserve it and give it the exposure it deserves. To the best of our ability. In the manner we think right suitable to the time warp we find ourselves in and to the political and social climate we find ourselves in. We will be expressing our solidarity with Goans in Goa and abroad on the occasion of the release of the book WALKING IN AROUND PANAJI , GOA on 6th August 2005. Am copying this e mail to Shilpa Caldeira and Rajiv D'Silva who are preparing the script for the book release function.Shilpa and Rajiv, please read out a solidarity message from the Group on the occasion of World Heritage Day to be celebrated worldwide on 20th August 2005. at our function on 6th August 2005. Best wishes, Heta Goa Heritage Action Group __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html
[Goanet]Why I'm an anti-anti-American
[The author of the piece below is a popular speaker, a best-selling author, and a former policy adviser in the Ronald Reagan White House.] From the San Francisco Chronicle (http://tinyurl.com/4zkga) 10 things to celebrate Why I'm an anti-anti-American - Dinesh D'Souza Sunday, June 29, 2003 America is under attack as never before -- not only from terrorists but also from people who provide a justification for terrorism. Islamic fundamentalists declare America the Great Satan. Europeans rail against American capitalism and American culture. South American activists denounce the United States for neocolonialism and oppression. Anti-Americanism from abroad would not be such a problem if Americans were united in standing up for their own country. But in this country itself, there are those who blame America for most of the evils in the world. On the political left, many fault the United States for a history of slavery, and for continuing inequality and racism. Even on the right, traditionally the home of patriotism, we hear influential figures say that America has become so decadent that we are slouching towards Gomorrah. If these critics are right, then America should be destroyed. And who can dispute some of their particulars? This country did have a history of slavery and racism continues to exist. There is much in our culture that is vulgar and decadent. But the critics are wrong about America, because they are missing the big picture. In their indignation over the sins of America, they ignore what is unique and good about American civilization. As an immigrant who has chosen to become an American citizen, I feel especially qualified to say what is special about America. Having grown up in a different society -- in my case, Bombay, India -- I am not only able to identify aspects of America that are invisible to the natives, but I am acutely conscious of the daily blessings that I enjoy in America. Here, then, is my list of the 10 great things about America. -- America provides an amazingly good life for the ordinary guy. Rich people live well everywhere. But what distinguishes America is that it provides an impressively high standard of living for the common man. We now live in a country where construction workers regularly pay $4 for a nonfat latte, where maids drive nice cars and where plumbers take their families on vacation to Europe. Indeed, newcomers to the United States are struck by the amenities enjoyed by poor people. This fact was dramatized in the 1980s when CBS television broadcast a documentary, People Like Us, intended to show the miseries of the poor during an ongoing recession. The Soviet Union also broadcast the documentary, with a view to embarrassing the Reagan administration. But by the testimony of former Soviet leaders, it had the opposite effect. Ordinary people across the Soviet Union saw that the poorest Americans have TV sets, microwave ovens and cars. They arrived at the same perception that I witnessed in an acquaintance of mine from Bombay who has been unsuccessfully trying to move to the United States. I asked him, Why are you so eager to come to America? He replied, I really want to live in a country where the poor people are fat. -- America offers more opportunity and social mobility than any other country, including the countries of Europe. America is the only country that has created a population of self-made tycoons. Only in America could Pierre Omidyar, whose parents are Iranian and who grew up in Paris, have started a company like eBay. Only in America could Vinod Khosla, the son of an Indian army officer, become a leading venture capitalist, the shaper of the technology industry, and a billionaire to boot. Admittedly tycoons are not typical, but no country has created a better ladder than America for people to ascend from modest circumstances to success. -- Work and trade are respectable in America. Historically most cultures have despised the merchant and the laborer, regarding the former as vile and corrupt and the latter as degraded and vulgar. Some cultures, such as that of ancient Greece and medieval Islam, even held that it is better to acquire things through plunder than through trade or contract labor. But the American founders altered this moral hierarchy. They established a society in which the life of the businessman, and of the people who worked for him, would be a noble calling. In the American view, there is nothing vile or degraded about serving your customers either as a CEO or as a waiter. The ordinary life of production and supporting a family is more highly valued in the United States than in any other country. America is the only country in the world where we call the waiter sir, as if he were a knight. -- America has achieved greater social equality than any other society. True, there are large inequalities of income and wealth in America. In purely economic terms, Europe is more egalitarian. But
[Goanet]Anju, Gowda head Indian rankings
Anju, Gowda head Indian rankings August 01, 2005 21:03 IST Star long jumper Anju Bobby George, ranked sixth in the world, and United States-based men's discus thrower Vikas Gowda are miles ahead of their compatriots in the latest rankings of Indian athletes. Anju, preparing to defend her bronze medal at Helsinki World Championships, tops the list of women long jumpers following her 6.47 metres effort at the Stockholm Super Grand Prix last week. Following Anju, who is struggling to match her career-best performance of 6.83 metres, at the Athens Olympics, are Tamil Nadu's K Revathy and Kalpana Das, who both have a best of 5.94m, in the list of top Indian athletes released by the Athletics Federation of India on Monday. The 22-year-old Gowda, who is pursuing his studies in the US and ranked 30th in the latest IAAF world rankings, came up with a season's best performance of 64.69m in Charlotte, USA, on April 2. In second place is Hungary-trained Anil Kumar Sangwan's 56.33m. The third Indian in the team for Helsinki, Neelam Jaswant Singh, ranked 25th in the world, is second in the women's discus rankings with her 60.65m effort at Patiala. Topping the list is Harwant Kaur, who touched 62.89m at the Asian Grand Prix in Singapore in June. The other toppers included Busan Asian Games gold medallist Sunita Rani (women's 5000m and 10,000m); Anil Kumar, who tops the men's 100 and 200m and Ghamanda Ram (men's 800 and 1500m). -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
[Goanet]Indian football team to tour Fiji
Indian football team to tour Fiji August 02, 2005 15:32 IST A 20-member football team, led by S Venkatesh, will tour Fiji this month for a three match friendly series, All-India Football Association (AIFA) sources said. The opening match of the series will be played at Ba on the 10th, the second at Lautoka on the 12th and the third at Suva on 14th of this month, Secretary of AIFA said in a release. The team: Selwyn Fernandes, S Venkatesh (Capt), Sathish Kumar, Veeraswamy Palanivalu, Subhasish Roy Chowdhury, Habibur Rehama Mondol, Pappachan Pradeep Naduparangil, Irungban Surkumar Singh, Sunil Chhetri, Syed Rahim Nabi, Manju Nanjangud Shivananju, Vimal Pariyar, Debabrata Roy, Malsawm Tluanga Syhlo, Sukhwinder Singh, Sukhjinder Singh, Gourmangi Singh, Gurjinder Singh, Yumlembam Raju Singh, Subhas Chakraborty, Manjit Singh. Sukhvinder Singh (Chief Coach), Syed Nasir Ali (Manager-cum-leader of delegation), Henry Stanly Rozario (Assistant coach) and Physio P K Ramesh. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
[Goanet]Free websites for Goan musicians
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Re: [Goanet]EMIGRATION: Sikhs rule in California's Central Valley
--- Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So why are Goans simply so invisible in history? Is it that their tale has not been told? How do we change this situation? Can the Internet help? Questions, questions Perhaps it is the tendency of Goans to merge into any society they come into and become part of them rather than living as separate entities? Research required by social anthropologists ... Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Goa Sudharop Annoucement
Dear Goa Sudharop well-wishers: We are pleased to inform you that the Internal Revenue Service (USA govt.) upon review of Goa Sudharop's financial accounts for 2001-2005, has renewed our non-profit (public charity) status. In a letter dated July 5, 2005, the IRS informed Goa Sudharop that donations to Goa Sudharop by USA residents will continue to be tax-deductible. We are grateful to the support of our well-wishers. Sincerely, Goa Sudharop
[Goanet]Re: Re: NEED OF THE HOUR
(Mr Floriano Lobo on Goa Su-Raj Constitution: Since much could not be written down in the Constitution, we have included only 3 items there. One: A five member cabinet. Two: No chairmanship of Govt. Corporations and Institutions to MLAs, and Three: Absolutely no amendments allowed to the above two articles as well as a few other important articles, throughout the life of the Party.) An honourable sentiment of course, sir! But is it a practical proposition? Will you be able to retain your MLAs after the elections? Regards, RKN _ Looking for a date? http://match.msn.co.in/match/mt.cfm?pg=channeltcid=234764 Meet interesting singles like you
[Goanet]Goa hotels, resorts hit by Mumbai floods
One often hears about the true situation in the most unexpected places. The following was in today's goanet postings bundled together with the usual litany of problems of Goa's airport. As I read the two stories, my reaction was: The hotels in Goa are run very prosperously by bhaile (till a calamity strikes) while the Goans (at least the ones on cyber-Goa) just gripe their complaints about the problems of tourism in Goa. Is the same happening to the airport issue? Kind Regards, GL Goanet News Service THE FLOOD FALLOUT DH News Service Panaji: Goa�s upmarket resorts have taken a major hit from the disruption of air and rail connectivity from Mumbai, with some hotels reporting over 50 per cent loss in business in the past week. Most cancellations have come from group bookings for conferences, though individual holiday plans have also been abruptly disrupted by the Mumbai floods. Leading hotel groups like the Taj, Marriott and Holiday Inn have been hit largely by conferences being called off. On Monday, the Goa Marriott Resort at Mira Mar, had six conferences cancelled and was expecting another two to be called off. This translated into a loss of 700 room nights, the hotel�s resident manager Niraj Chadha told Deccan Herald. �Mumbai is our primary feeder market and the disruption of connectivity is causing us major losses,� Mr Chadha said. Overseas booking were also being cancelled because of floods in Mumbai, he said. At the Holiday Inn, Cavelossim, South Goa, the situation is no different for resident manager P V Menon, whose hotel has lost business worth Rs 15 lakh in a few days. �We have already had five conferences cancelled and seen occupancy nosedive by 50 per cent,� he complained. �Some overseas tourists have been rerouting their flights via Bangalore and Delhi. But unless our links to Mumbai are restored it will be a major inconvenience,� said Dennis D�Costa, the resident manager of the Taj group�s Fort Aguada Beach Resort. The hotel has lost two major conferences as well as individual bookings. Meanwhile, most upscale resorts in Goa are reporting chock-a-block bookings for the Independence Day weekend and hoteliers are keeping their fingers crossed for the situation in Mumbai to normalise. The cheap fares and attractive packages keep Goa ticking as a monsoon destination for mid-level travellers, say hoteliers. �Conference bookings have enhanced and we�ve seen 100 per cent increase in traffic from Delhi. Goa is doing fine. We only hope Mumbai comes back on line,� says Marriott�s Chadha.
RE: [Goanet]Anecdote - Blue blooded?
Alexander I, King of the Hellenes, ruled Greece from 1917-1920. He was born on 21 July (O.S.) = 1 August 1893 at Tatoi near Athens, the second son of Constantine I and his wife, Princess Sophie of Prussia. In 1917, Constantine I, known for his pro-German tendencies, insisted that Greece remain neutral in World War I, while Prime minister Eleftherios Venizelos was determined to go to war in support of the Triple Entente. At Venizelos' invitation, French and British troops entered Greece and forced Constantine I and his first born son Prince George into exile. Young Alexander was enthroned as king; in reality he had absolutely no power, and his only real task was to frequently visit the front and rally the troops. On one major issue, however, he did defy Venizelos: On 4 November 1919 he eloped with a commoner, Aspasia Manos (1896-1972), daughter of Colonel Petros Manos, causing a scandal and infuriating Venizelos who had wanted the young king to marry princess Mary, daughter of king George V of England. The royal couple was forced to temporarily flee to Paris, until the crisis was resolved and his wedding was legalized. On 25 October 1920 he died at Athens, of sepsis, after been bitten by a pet monkey. After his death, his father was permitted to return to Greece as a king. His only child, born after his death, was Alexandra of Greece (1921-1993), who later married Peter II, King of Yugoslavia. References * Hindley, Geoffrey (2000). The Royal Families of Europe. New York: Caroll Graf. ISBN 0-7867-0828-X. * Encyclopedia Britannica, edition 15 (1990). Article: Alexander (Greece) * Miroslav Marek. Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg. Genealogy.Eu. Accessed on Jun 30, 2005. More at, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_of_Greece_(king) Avelino Bastora/Kuwait _ Seb dc wrote: From: D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] One day while he was trying to stop his gardener's pet monkey from attacking his pet Alsatian (Fritz), Alexander I of Greece was bitten on the leg. By whom? the Monkey or the Dog?? Just joking After enduring eleven operations, the king died of blood poisoning. Though an early amputation would surely have saved him, Alexander's doctors refused to perform the operation - on the grounds that the leg was Royal. How about Cold blooded and Pure blooded ? as someone pointed out on goanet recently about Ms. Mascarenhas. Alexander I, (?-1920) Greek king Why the ? mark, When was he born. Do I need to quote Karl M.:-) hAVE a nICE dAY Seb..
[Goanet]What's a pure blooded Goan
This is a genuine question to Sharon Mascarenhas as to what exactly she means by saying she is a pure blooded Goan. Is this term somehow linked to her MSc in nursing? Just curious. Cornel If I'm not wrong, Sharon is just repeating -- probably unconscious of its implications -- a cliche. One that has become part of the language of Goan chauvinism (which, ironically, is in part promoted by recent migrants to the state, who realise they can make a business of it). During the largely futile language agitation (which was more about caste and communalism rather than language) and later, we heard about blue blooded sons of the red soil of Goa and such cliches. Needless to say, the soil itself varies in diverse parts of Goa, not to speak about the blood (as if this is important!) My daughter asked me how some fields in Saligao have a sandy-soil, and enquired whether this area too was once under the sea. What the young lady nurse probably means is that she's simply Goan, and feels quite alien in the Big City. Just as I felt on reaching Mumbai (then Bombay) for the first time, and encountering the morning-hour rush at Bandra station (or was it some other station?) There is, of course, no such thing as a pure blooded Goan. If that concept is accepted, then the aboriginals (who only recently belatedly got Scheduled Tribe status) will have to contend among themselves, as to who was here first -- the Gawada, Kunbi, Dhangar or Velip. The rest of us are all migrants at diverse points of time, and we need to come to terms with Goa being a melting pot. Caste is almost another form of race. Diverse caste groups (and inter-mingling among them nowadays) reflect our diverse origins. Let's acknowledge this; it might help to make Goa a less intolerant society. My photographer friends point out that Goans come in every skin shade -- from near European to near-Afro. This, at the practical level, causes a dilemma as to what film is best stocked, to create a suitable skintone in photographs. The Japanese films are made for their own skin-tones, but given the huge Indian market, and our own (near racial) preference for a fair complexion, they have films suited for India skin hues. But this doesn't work in all cases! Rather than critiquing this young lady -- who incidentally isn't probably reading Goanet, her article was reproduced from the Herald -- we might be better off with an attempt to understand and unmask Goan chauvinism, intolerance and racism of a home-grown sort. Just a few thoughts, with the intention not of scoring points, but taking the debate forward. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ Frederick Noronha | Independent Journalist | Ph 832.2409490 _/ 784 Saligao 403511 Goa India | [EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
[Goanet]OFFTOPIC: Bombay (Mumbai) needs your help ... cyberspace initiatives
From: peter griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Almost a thousand people dead in Maharashtra, about half of them from Bombay. Transport screwed, no electricity, no running water, some areas STILL under water a week later. They haven't even begun figyring out how many people were injured. Or what the tolls might increase to if the epidemics we all fear do happen. (And that's likely, if you have sewage mixed with rain water standing thirteen feet deep in some places) They have't even begun estimating what the losses of property are going to be like. So many have lost everything. Bombay needs help folks. We can analyse what wrong later. We can figure out what to do about it later. Right now, Bombay needs help. Bombay's bloggers (and some friends - the net doesn't worry about borders) are trying to do their bit, by making sure information is easy to find. Information was one more thing we all didn't have enough of last week. Not that it's much better now. http://mumbaihelp.blogspot.com/ is an effort to put online such critical for emergencies information as we can find. We hope to turn this into a permanent site that will act as a Bombay disaster portal. http://cloudburstmumbai.blogspot.com/ is a collection of news, both from the media as well as stories sent in via email and blog links. Link to us if you run a site, pass these links around to your friends, send us information, send us stories [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pass the word, people. It's a small gesture, considering the enormity of what has happened, but we hope it will go a long way. Thanks, peter
[Goanet]FREE books - Social Enterprise London (SEL)
Maybe - Goans or Friends of Goa living in the London area - could help us by finding out if these books would be beneficial to the people in Goa , and if so , would they be in a position to could collect them and have them stored ... until they are ready for despatch ? I will try and make the arrangements for these books to be sent to the Goa Village Libraries - or any NGO's that may be interested in having these books. I am also copying this email to the GOAN DOCTORS - world wide organisation ... Thanks for your time rene 0 Resources FREE books - Social Enterprise London (SEL) SEL will shortly be moving from their North London offices to 1 London Bridge and will have less space for our many of their publications. They have a great selection of books available (Health Social Care, Housing, Childcare) and would really like other organisations to benefit from them. Publications usually cost £10 per copy, however this time they are offering copies for the cost of delivery only. If you feel your organisation could benefit from this and is able to collect the publications then contact Hannah on t: 020 7704 7490 or e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The offer is on a first come, first served basis. Publications need to be collected by the 4th August 05. SEL cannot organise delivery. 00 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]Anecdote - Blue blooded?
From: D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] One day while he was trying to stop his gardener's pet monkey from attacking his pet Alsatian (Fritz), Alexander I of Greece was bitten on the leg. By whom? the Monkey or the Dog?? Just joking After enduring eleven operations, the king died of blood poisoning. Though an early amputation would surely have saved him, Alexander's doctors refused to perform the operation - on the grounds that the leg was Royal. How about Cold blooded and Pure blooded ? as someone pointed out on goanet recently about Ms. Mascarenhas. Alexander I, (?-1920) Greek king Why the ? mark, When was he born. Do I need to quote Karl M.:-) hAVE a nICE dAY Seb..
Re: [Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites'
Cornel's query regarding true blooded Goan can be best summurized by an appropriate, though not equal, Konkani words, Aum Nix Goenkar. It's just for emphasis. Or, rather hyperbole. Those who often say these words mean that they are Goans to the core. It defies defination. As as extenstion, Indians often says, Aum Bharatiya Aye. No literal translation, but it means we are Indians through and through. In this context, RDK's reply to my post on Britain and immigrants and Rene's subsequent queries are relevant. As RDK says what he said was obvious in relation to the outsider factor in Goa. Goans in Goa, when convenient, blames outsiders for many of the state's problems -- from employment to corruption to shortages of essential items. Migrant labour comes where there is demand such as Biharis going to Punjab to work the fields and settling there in quite a good number. Some of them have become baptized Sikhs. However, these new Sikhs are not welcomed with open arms. Native Sikhs look upon these Sikhs as people who have embraced the religion to gain communal acceptance and for economic reasons. In contrasst, a white person converting to Sikhism is often welcomed with open arms and warm hearts. Ami Goenkar was a battlecry some years ago when the employment problem rose its ugly head in Goa. Similarly, sons-of-the-soil campaign in Goa started but never got a boost. Some political leaders wanted to exploit this ill-conceived slogan for political gain, just as the Shiv Sena used it to gain political mileage from Maharashtrians in the early history of the party. The Congress was powerful in the state and the Shiv Sena used every gimmick to make inroads into the Congress vote banks, large parts of it being Maharashtrians. So, Cornel take heart. Sharon probably wanted to show that she is a brave Goan who weathered the monsoon mayhem and survive to tell a story. Her story is one of the many that may have been heard in those trying -- and crying - monsoon tales. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
RE: [Goanet]Re: Re: britain and immigrants
I live in Britain and I was born and brought up in Goa. I have experienced it and hence know the facts. One cannot compare a nation's (Britain) problem to a small state Goa in India. Hence your below mentioned statement is completely wrong. Mr Nair, As yet, I do NOT know any chauvinistic Goans, hence, it appears that they exist only in your subtle mind. However, what I know that there are MALE chauvinist Kerelites who most of them DEMANDS dowries from their would be wife and in-laws. They mostly select their brides from the highest quotations. Do you have any personal experience in this matter? ... do you have any comments or have guts to make any sound comments in this matter? Cip UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Radhakrishnan Nair Sent: 01 August 2005 07:43 To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Re: Re: britain and immigrants (The statement is NOT true, in fact totally wrong. Cip) What statement is totally wrong, Cip? -- RKN --- Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: COMMENT: If the word 'Foreigners' is replaced with 'Outsiders', the above comment would fit the Goan situation nicely. Of course, for 'white Britain' read 'some chauvinistic Goans'. Cheers, RKN _ 7000 classifieds http://www.sulekha.com/classifieds/cllist.aspx?nma=INref=msn -Chennai, Mumbai, Hyderabad Bangalore.
[Goanet]SOMETHING FOR GOA GOVT TO MULL
http://www.itp.net/business/features/details.php?id=2983category= Monday, 1 August, 2005 Model airports by Neil Denslow airport planners are increasingly using digital models to simulate the airport environment. This then allows them to try out possible scenarios in a virtual world before they are implemented for real, which is both quicker and cheaper to do. A simulation provides a very safe and cost effective way of doing what-ifs, explains Cameron Baillie, business development manager, Preston Aviation Solutions. Different ideas can be tested and the best one can then be put into place for real, which will save you a lot of operational costs in the long run. Preston is also using simulations to assess the effect that the introduction of the A380 will have on airport operations. The launch of these massive superjumbos will impact on all areas of the airport, from the car parks and check-in desks all the way to the runway. Airport operators need to look at the issue of wake turbulence from A380s, for instance, as when larger aircraft takes off smaller planes need to wait for longer [for the air to settle], says Baillie. This could well have an impact on runway utilisation rates, he warns.
[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - August 2, 2005!
Dusreanchea chukink sosnnik zav. Tannim tujea chukink sosnnik zavunk zai. (Be patient with the faults of others. They have to be patient with yours.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]RE:Goanet (July): stats/4 column table best viewed in wider screen
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[Goanet]RE: Goa's annual plan finalised (Press Information Bureau)
Shri Ahluwalia called for promotion of bio-fertilizers, high value agriculture and horticulture, and expeditious completion of the on-going irrigation projects. He also underlined the need to market Goa as a major holiday destination on the lines of ASEAN countries and promote hinterland tourism. The latter is consistent with the Deputy Chairman's well known stance regarding tourism's role in the national economy. Unfortunately our hon. CM does not seem to have been able to pluck up sufficient courage to say how the military stranglehold on Dabolim airport distorts all sensible economic planning for the state. This would have been a golden opportunity to lift the veil over Goa's economy and obtain the Planning Commission's support in the UPA government for the badly needed downsizing of the military at Dabolim.
[Goanet]Anecdote - Blue blooded?
One day while he was trying to stop his gardener's pet monkey from attacking his pet Alsatian (Fritz), Alexander I of Greece was bitten on the leg. After enduring eleven operations, the king died of blood poisoning. Though an early amputation would surely have saved him, Alexander's doctors refused to perform the operation - on the grounds that the leg was Royal. Alexander I, (?-1920) Greek king
