[Goanet] RED LIGHT FOR YOU' from your friend Floriano
Senhor Eric: Senhor Eric, I'm Goan Paclo, Goan Portuguese, the Goan Patriot, the Brave Heart. I don't have to edit nothing as you mentioned below. I want Indians leave my motherland Goa, otherwise we will force them out. Eric, Goa goverment had paid all my tuition fees during my engineering,at Victoria Jubilee Technical Institue, Matunga, Bombay University with Honors, because I stood First Class first in Inter Science, at Chowgule College, Margao. I give thousands of dollars in Charity to Goans, more than Goa government had paid for free tution fees. I've my own Charity account in Mapusa named Agnelo Gomes Charities, I give money for poor Goans, and Goan Archdiocese Schools. United States may be an ally of India, India is occupying my motherland Goa, USA is a democratic country, USA knows that India has occupied Goa. So what is the problem, Senhor. India has to withraw. FBI simply won't pick any one, there is a law in USA, I'm not Al Qaeeda member, I'm a Patriot. We will use force as a last resort after India refuses to withraw according to UN charter. UN used force to drive out Sadam Hussein from Kuwait, US used force to drive out Sadam from Iraq. Eric, are you an Indian spy? Goan Patriots are immune to Indian law, India is occupying my motherland. Get some help, Senhor you need badly. Give those threats to Goan Politicians and Indian Police force that are occupying my motherland Goa. You're a simply an ignorant person. Never give again such threats. You're insulting Goan Patriot. I can hang you high for treason. Don't worry I won't even put you in Fort Aguada Prison, for spying India, you're just not worth it. Agnelo Gomes - Original Message - From: eric pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Agnelo loves people, i know, i have experienced his largesse ! He and Maria have raised six lovely American children, all very complished. Agnelo, they would love to edit your prose, you only have to ask !
[Goanet] Re: Churchill,
From Agnelo Gomes My dear Alfred, According to your account Senhor Tom's father came from a family of a Legislative Council of the Governo do Estado da India. No, my dear Pacló.. I did not say/state from a Family... but A member/ The office was never hereditary but, albeit, confered. along with Tom's Pappa were, I believed contemporatry Filomerno Figeuiredo, Pinto Rosario and Loyola Furtado... Alás, not one Gomes...nor even a Tavares!
[Goanet] biggest village
Or is it Siolim that's the biggest village in Bardez followed by Serula (now divided into Salvador do Mundo, Socorro, Penha da Franca and Pomburpa) in Bardez? Remember reading something to this effect in the Goa Gazetteer.
Re: [Goanet] Re: Churchill, get us an OPINION POLL - Past is a failure
. The past was the past and cannot improve the future ...We should look towards the future and should try to improve it for our next generation. It is strange that followers of what we like minded Goans write make the above comments. The invasion of 61 was a failure on Goans. If not for the Gulf we would be selling langothis in Goa. It is important to look back and correct the mistakes. It will take huge effort. bharati neo colonialism should draw to a close. B. Colaço ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Goans being *taken for a ride* by Monorail?
Interesting, it is. Are you saying this in your personal capacity, or as an employee/public relations officer of the Konkan Railway Corporation? Or both? While I hold no brief for the Monorail, it perhaps needs to be recalled that the Konkan Railway itself grossly under-estimated its costs at the time of pushing through the project (literally, thanks in part to George Fernandes and Madhu Dandavate and the upcoming elections in the early 'nineties) at a little over a thousand crores... to end up at six times or more that cost. Mega projects and corruption are a lethal mix. FN From: Lawrence Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Goans being *taken for a ride* by Monorail? To: GoaNet goanet@goanet.org Interesting is it not? We question the expenditure of Rs.500 crore, but, the Rs.2,500 crore expenditure *may be a proposal with merit*? How does one justify the huge difference in cost (approx Rs.675 crores) which excludes the cost of Land Acquisition? Who are the *Land Losers*? How much will they lose? How much will they be compensated? A CNG-driven monorail? Which oil company will this benefit? So many questions... Seems a fit case for a Public Interest Litigation! Lawrence
[Goanet] World GOAN network launch announcement
Dear all, The Board of Directors of Goa Sudharop is proud to announce the launch of a new worldwide Goan Network group to be called World GOAN, to publicise, benefit, and support the events and projects of Goan organizations and associations around the world. GOAN stands for Goan Organizations, Associations and NGO's/Non-Profits. To become part of this exciting new Goan network, simply email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell us about your activities and events. There is no membership or fee or application to enroll and you do not have to be a registered Goan organization, association or NGO/non-profit to be a participant in this network. Institutions, d-lists and individuals who work to promote Goa and Goans are also welcome to join. In due course we hope to have a website for such a worldwide Goan Network group, bringing together the worldwide Goan community to help foster progress, unity, development of Goa and Goans. Organizations, associations, NGO's/non-profits will benefit by being able to tap into Goa Sudharop's resources. Goa Sudharop may also decide to financially contribute thorugh its World GOAN Development Fund to your projects if they fall within our aims and objectives of the betterment of Goa and Goans worldwide. In certain cases when it makes sense, the worldwide Goan community can work together on a common project and cause. Groups/individuals have already shown interest and we look forward to all worldwide Goan organizations, associations, NGO's, non-profits, d-lists, institutions, individuals to participate and enroll regardless of their own mission and aims. There is no cost to enroll and no requirements, other than your love for Goa and Goans and a desire to build a strong worldwide Goan community and help one another. Please support this worthy cause of bringing Goans together. Further details to follow. Sincerely, Board of Directors of Goa Sudharop [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet] PUBLIC INTEREST LITIGATION WRIT PETITION NO.3 OF 2005
No. J/PILWP-3-5/2992/2005 Date: 14th. September, 2005 IN THE HIGH COURT OF BOMBAY AT GOA PANAJI GOA. PUBLIC INTEREST LITIGATION WRIT PETITION NO. 3 OF 2005 (NOTICE TO PETITIONER IN PERSON) Floriano C. Lobo (In Person) .Petitioner V/s State of Goa Thr. Chief Secretary and Anr. ... Respondents To, Floriano C. Lobo, 383-A, Pirazona, Moira Bardez - Goa. 403 507. Sir, This is to inform you that your letter dated 5th. September, 2005, has been registered as Public Interest Litigation Writ Petition No.3 of 2005. You are to take note that the above PILWP No.3 of 2005 is fixed for Admission on 26th. day of September, 2005 at 10.30 a.m. You are, therefore, required to attend this Court on 26-09-2005 at 10-30 a.m. to argue the matter. Yours faithfully, Sd/- (K.D. Patil) Registrar High Court of Bombay at Goa, Panaji. ** September 5, 2005 To: The Justices of the Honourable Bombay High Court at Goa, Altinho, Panjim. Your Lordships, Subject: How Goa honours its Garbage. I am writing to you as a humble citizen of Goa, who is frustrated at the way Goa's garbage is honoured by the very persons we have elected to see that our garbage is given the rightful status that it deserves and to see that it is properly disposed-of without recriminations and anxiety to the citizens of this State. Goa's newspapers have been howling at the top of their voices for far too long, even to the extent of displaying vivid photographs of the mess that our garbage has made and is presently making. But all that we citizens have got are sweet promises from the concerned Authorities and our Elected Representatives. I humbly submit, your Lordships, that a society which does not know how to take care of its own garbage has no social status at all. If I may go a step further, to me, 'un-sanitized' and 'filthy' market places, where citizens have to shop for their groceries and daily needs, reflects the status of the society at large. And I have a very good reason for saying what I have said. The attached photographs show some of the not less than 24 truck-loads of Mapusa-market garbage, which was lying un-cleared in the market place for over a week, has been conveniently dumped with utmost impunity on the by-pass stretch of the NH-17 [Mapusa to Green Park Hotel, Guirim]. What is more catastrophic is that this dumping is alongside the NH-17 bordering the Mapusa River. Perhaps this is done with the understanding that the River will ultimately take care of this untreated and raw garbage. Dumping the Mapusa garbage along this stretch clandestinely during night hours has been a regular phenomena where most of the previous dumping have been covered-up by the recently stacked mud-piles for the widening of the highway, as can be seen in the attached photographs. Sometime ago, on a day of festive occasion, I am on record of making the MMC crew re-load the garbage dumped at this very site in broad daylight, back into their truck and take it away. What is more saddening is that many of our elected MLAs, Ministers and even the Honourable Chief Minister of Goa who have been transiting this stretch on a daily basis to attend the recently concluded sessions of the Goa Legislative Assembly or otherwise, have all preferred not to have noticed this great honour that the Mapusa Municipal Council has bestowed on its garbage, to make it a show piece on our prided NH-17 by-pass, and have refrained from discussing this issue in the Assembly. To add insult to human pride and dignity, the Mapusa Municipal Council has allowed 'Goa Foundation', a Mapusa based NGO, to treat and compost the market's fish and meat wastes at the very entrance of the fish market. The resulting overpowering stench of the decomposition of this waste matter has been churning the bowels of a lot of people who are unfortunate to be in the immediate vicinity of this unit, including the many shops, residences and the Government Complex nearby. This is not an ordinary stink of the decaying garbage, but it is the unbearable stench akin to a highly decomposed human body or an animal carcass. Your Lordships, my financial status does not permit me to file a Public Interest Litigation (PIL) in the Honourable High Court, nor do I feel competent enough to challenge the all powerful Governmental Authorities and the Elected People's Representatives. But my conscience does not allow me to suffer this indignity unto my beautiful State, which is viewed as a 'Touristic Heaven', or to allow some fickle minded people in authority to devastate our natural resources such as the Mapusa River. Therefore, this motivation alone has prompted me to make this appeal to your Lordships. Perhaps, it is in your power to make the concerned authorities to spare this utmost shame unto Goa, Goans and the lovers of Goa.. With deepest respect, I remain, Yours faithfully, Sd/- (Floriano C. Lobo) 383-A, Pirazona, Moira-Bardez Goa- 403 507 Attached: Photographs x 9 Nos. of the dumping of garbage
[Goanet] GOA KONKANI ACADEMY --GKA MISDEEDS EXPOSED.
The promise by this writer to expose the goings on in the ONLY FOR DEVANAGIRI script lobby, consituted body of the Government of Goa viz Goa Konkani Akademi, Opp the KTC Bus terminus in Panaji formed in 1984 has finally resulted in the Secretary Finance, Mr Dharmendra Sharma IAS, Govt of Goa pointing a finger at one Prof Bhushan Bhave a lecturer at the Ponda Education Society College Farmagudi Ponda who in addition to drawing his own salary as Prof. in the college is also receiving a remmuneration of Rs 4000/ p.m.from the GKA as its Vice President. This is in gross contravention of the government finance rules which prohibits a person to receive salary from two posts while permitting TA/DA. The obvious repercussion is that either Prof Bhave will have to refund the same to the Government since the time he was in receipt of this amount from 7.4.2003?? or the government will be compelled to recover the same through legal means. But that is not the only such instance of skeletons rolling out from the cupboard. According to an inside source on yet another ocassion Mr Pundalik N Naik (not Nayak as listed on the GKA website www.goakonkaniakademi.org ) President and Prof Bhushan Bhave Vice President of GKA proceeded to Delhi from 26th to 31st October 2004 unauthorisedly (i.e without the prior permission or sanction of the Goa Government as is the normal procedure ) by air and incurred an expenditure of Rs 60,000/- when their normal entitlement ought to be on par with a Senior Grade Officer of Goa Civil Service cadre i.e 1st class rail fare and TA DA as applicable,to participate in the Literary seminar at Goa Diaspora - and an exhibition of Goan books mainly depicting Goan Cultural Heritage (pre 25 November 1510 and post 19 December 1961 only ???is not known } However as a special case and apparently without precedent the sanction was accorded ex-post facto by the Goa Government Directorate of Official Languages order DOL/621/L/2004-05/20 dated 12.04.2005 (during President's rule) and the excess amounts were to be recovered from their honorarium Rs 7000/- paid to President and Rs 4000/- paid to the Vice President and with a strict directive that their travel outside the State should invariably be with prior permission of the Government. Now with the development in the case of Prof Bhave it is worth watching how the Government riggles out of this dilema. It could however not be confirmed from the Goa Konkani Akademi tele no: +91 832 2437385 or the Directorate of Official Languages + 91 832 2420071 Mr Gopalkrishna D Padgaonkar (which oversees the disbursement of funds --- to both the Goa Marathi Akademy and the Goa Konkani Akademy) whether the amounts have since been recovered from them. Both telephones remained unattended despite frantic calls by this writer. Incidentally this years budget promises 1.30 crores for fiscal year 2005 -2006 as passed in the just concluded Budget session 30.08.2005 . Unfortunately Konkani in Roman script which is written by mainly the Catholic community gets only some assistance in reality doles as appeasement at the whimsical will of the Goa Government. For just 60 books published by the Goa Akademi on an average most of which hardly have sellers but the writers manage to get assitance as the same is written in Konkani Devanagiri being recognised as the Official script by the Goa Government enactment of the Official Languages Act, 1987 As if this is not enough, there are other allegations about liberal spendings on food bills at the Circuit House Canteen Altinho Panaji. Activities carried out beyond the office hours in the premises, claim of TA DA bills from GKA to Institute Menezes Braganza Kala Academy and Directorate of Arts and Culture all within the Corporation limits of Panaji use of own vehicle etc. Several letters of complaints are lying with the Directorate of Official Languages. One really wonders whether the Goa Government really needs to continue the Goa Konkani Akademy which has literally turned out to be a hot spot of a few literates to pass their time even beyond office hours sometimes on Sundays and Holidays with the bills of power water supply etc footed by the Goa Government. There are also reports about the unauthorised engagement and termination of services of a supervisor Mr Anthony Vaz vide order No: 3/21/2004/GKA/248 dated 4/7/2005, but he still continues in the GKA While all this goes on it is interesting to have a fresh look at the office bearers Executive Board - (2002-2005) Shri. PUNDALIK NARAYAN NAIK (not NAYAK) - President Prof. BHUSAN BHAVE - Vice President Secretary, Education Goa Government Members 4. Shri. DAMODAR MAUZO 5. Shri. TOMAZHINO CARDOZO 6. Dr. TANAJI HALANKAR 7. Prof. PRIYADARSHINI TADKODKAR 8. Prof. PRAKASH VAJRIKAR 9. Prof. ARUN SAKHARDANDE Secretary - nominee of the Goa Government Finance Committee 1. Shri. PUNDALIK N. NAIK - President 2. Secretary, Finance Mr Dharmendra S Goa Government 3. Dr.
[Goanet] TIATRO SORO.
TIATRO SORO. When the first Tiatro Italian Bhurgo was staged in Bombay on 17th April 1892 by the founder of Tiatro, Mr. Lucasinho Ribeiro from Assagao, Bardez, Goa, his dream was to make this art as a great weapon for the benefit of Goan community in particular and Konkani in general. During those early days this art was not patronized by hoi polloi audience. Even the artistes were of higher grade in their social and otherwise standings. I had an opportunity to meet and talk to one of the descendants of Lucashinho Ribeiro who freely expressed that Lucasinho was very proud after the success of creating Konkani Tiatro and had great hope that this beautiful art would be handled by the artistes of calibre and also attended by the audience of calibre. But gradually this art went into the hands of some disgraceful artistes whom once at Khursachea Moidanar in Bombay, Joao Agostinho Fernandes whom we call Pai Tiatristancho called as Rostad because Mr. Fernandes agonizingly lamented the dirtiness and ugliness these few tiatrists promoted from the stage. The word Rostad is not mine but it came from the mouth of Joao Agostinho Fernandes. In fact for many years tiatro not only remained into the hands of bad people but even the audience was bad. Precisely because of this, the elite, decent and people of character refused to patronize this beautiful art. I have seen with my own eyes as a small boy in our village and elsewhere while interacting with tiatrists of yesteryears how filthy and dirty and drunkards some of them were. The soro they were drinking before and during the tiatro was worst besides in their day to day life soro was their tonic and womanizing was their forte. Concubinage was the hallmark of some of them. Forgetfulness and neglect of their wives and children was their routine. If it was not for their excessive soro, great tiatrist Minguel Rod would have been writing so much and so beautiful. Oh! What a tragedy that this man died at so early age due to excessive soro and thereby denied us Goans and Konkani lovers so much of beautiful on Konkani stage. Where else and when we can get another Minguel Rod? Since his death, no tiatrist can pen down as beautiful tiatros as he used to with most sorrowful cantos like Motets. One day I was told by Anjuna Church Choir Master (Mistir) the late Mr. Pedrinho, while I was learning Violin from him in early sixties that once during Lent he played instead of Motet the tune of Minguel Rods Canto from his most memorable tiatro Ghorib Sezari. What a masterpiece it was. As a small boy even I cried along with elders while Miss Julie rendered this canto. Soro has destroyed best of Goan Konkani talent. What about Champion Peter? Was it not excessive Soro that killed him? Can anyone after him play the role of traditional Goan Hindu Goldsmith? It was a pity that no saner Goan not even from Church circle guided these giants into decency. I think our elders of those days and society as a whole failed in their mission of guiding people of talent in right direction. During those days regretfully Tiatro was patronized by lower and middle class of Goans, upper strata of Goans was rarely attending this beautiful art. One of the reasons was because of the disgracefulness displayed in action and in expressions by the artistes from the stage and secondly because of the rubbish Goans among the audience. Who are these rubbish Goans? They are all Bebdes, drunk to the brim and in readiness to create fights in the hall. Many times during those days Bebde audience used to fight and disturb the atmosphere in the hall or mattou. I saw in 1960 for one tiatro at Mapusa during the feast of Milagres Saibinn, how the then terror Policeman, Cabo Sukddo at the entrance inside the hall holding his Revolver and threatening the rowdies mostly the Bebdes that he will shoot them if they dont maintain discipline inside. But Bebdo is a Bebdo. When he is drunk he is animal or worst than animal. These type of animals are bringing bad name to Tiatro which is a beautiful art but unfortunately because of such Bebdes many time Tiatros are interrupted and stopped. Unfortunately, when this topic of Bebde audience is raised many of the other Bebdes identify themselves with their bebde brothers and hurl accusations on me for raising this issue openly. Ultimately a bebdo will support another bebdo. This is the tragedy. In late sixties Kid Boxer was staging Minguel Rod's tiatro Lemddo Santan at Panjim. Suddenly due to delay in starting the tiatro, some misunderstanding occurred between a section of the audience and organisers and there was uproar in the hall. Most of the rowdies fully drunk, in this commotion, got up and walked away with the Chairs on which they were seated. In this situation the director was forced to stop the staging of that tiatro and the organisers suffered heavy
[Goanet] PLASTIC POLLUTION HAZZARDS.
PLASTIC POLUTION HAZZARDS. Goa: Anti-plastic rally held in Quepem. On April 10th 2005 HERALD Goan Daily published the following: The students and teachers of Holy Cross High School held a rally at Quepem to create awareness on problems of plastic and the importance of reprocessing it. The rally was flagged off by school Principal Dr. Uday Gaonkar and was guided by Physical Education teacher Anant Narvekar. Other teachers guided their respective groups. The rally started from the school, made its way to Quepem Health Center, Quepem market and Quepem Police Station, before concluding at the school. On reading the above I was thrilled because I hail from Quepem and I like to say a few words concerning the above captioned subject, but before that I would like to mention that this is not the first time such rallys have been conducted by Holy Cross HS students, I have been a student of this school for a short while and have participated in student rallys such as Bus fare for students, Opposing transport facilities plying Quepem route, and blocking roads for not picking students due to which they used to miss first 2 periods, the student leaders who were actively involved were Basker Naik from Rivona, Quepem, who recently was the Principal of Govt. College at Xeldem, Quepem, Mr. Pradeep Shirvaikar, a Lawyer but is a Senior teacher at HCHS, Pramod Desai, Ghurudas Dalal, Bale Sarojini Madhav who stood 5th in all Goa back in the 70s, Kalindi Kunkolekar Senior teacher at HCHS, Manuel Colaco Ex. President of Quepem Municipality, etc.. the list is endless . All of them were fearsome debaters and public speakers. As far as I know there are many ex. students from this school even here in Kuwait, also recently Mr. Suhas Dalal from Quepem was honoured with Pratibha Prakashan for editing Mahaa Komkann Sudarshan (in Konkani) Samyukta Goem Zaalemnaa Zaalyaar Komknni Lok Shennttalo was also a student of Holy Cross HS. We have indeed come a long way from the ancient and primitive ages to the modern day world. During this long span of more than 2 million years, mans life has been through several drastic and fundamental changes, but one of the most difficult challenges that it faces even today is the menace of environmental degradation that has been posed by mankind to a large extent by polluting it over the ages. From the very inception of the Industrial Revolution of the 17th Century, man has been constantly interacting with the natural environment and destroying it to a large extent. In todays modern era of Science and Technology Plastics have become one of the most widely used products all over the globe. The Credit for this invention goes to the famous scientist Dr. Alexander Parkes who had invented the first synthetic plastic i.e. celluloid way back in 1856.. Since then the number as well as the types and qualities have greatly increased, producing superior materials such as epoxies, polycarbonates, Teflon, silicones and polysulfones. The bonding properties and chemical versatility of carbon account for the great number of plastics, though we have been successful in creating such varieties, in the process we have adversely affected the global eco-system as a whole. Today plastics have created such a menace in many places that it has led to the proliferation in the spread of Cancer by the production of deadly carcinogenic compounds.. Thus the best alternative to plastics would be the use of biodegradable and naturally occurring products. Whatever it was it almost certainly came in a wrapper or a package that you ripped off straight away and put it in the bin! Having done its job the packaging became totally useless immediately.. Hmmm, if only it could just evaporate Do you know that we now use over 3.2 Million Tones of plastic and cardboard a year for packaging which is twice what we used 10 years ago, you may not give it another thought but it takes nature years or even centuries to deal with all our old rubbish! How long it takes nature to break down and recycle an object? It depends on what its made of and whats able to pull it a part. Oxygen in the air and Sunlight can help decompose many materials.. Meanwhile, living things like bacteria, moulds and fungi regard some types of rubbish as a square meal and will happily munch their way through them, this is known as biodegradable waste. But this takes a lot longer than your average lunch break. Orange peel can take between 6 months and 2 years to decay, while an aluminium soft drinks Can takes 50 to 100 years But the real everlasting, undestructive and never decaying substance is PLASTIC. Plastics are a particular pain, though undeniably useful of course in many ways, this is because their molecules are tightly bound together and are very very hard to prise apart, because plastic is a relatively new material, only around in the last century, no micro-organisms have yet
[Goanet] re:Abbe Faria statue
Wouldn't it be great to have a postage stamp of Abbe Faria with Malika Sherawat in the reclining pose! Just as the statue in Panaji. Just a thought Eugene __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Goanet] Mopa Replacement Airport.
Well Tom, If indeed you are tom, let me tell you, that the S.E. Asian cities and airports that you are taiking of, are at the crossroads of international air routes; and not serving just a small and underdeveloped territory like Goa. Also please ubderstand that Dabilom is already there; and the needs of extra space is there right under the control of the Navy, which is sittingon it. The infrastructure for its further development c is and can be upgraded as per requirements, at a fraction of the cost and in much less time than required elsewhere. Why duplicate when the existing one can be upgraded for the benefit of all of Goa; and not only extreme north Goa and south Ratnagiri district; as is the case with Mopa; which will only mop up scarce resources. The additional resources if available can be better used to create true double lane roads with footpaths, along the north and south coastal belts; namely from Aguada to Baga and in the south from Velsao to Mobor Cavelossim; also to build two additional bridges across the Zuari and Mandovi respectively. Please try and think straight, and not from a 'parochial' angle like you are doing! let me tell you; since you say you cannot understand how Dabolim can be upgraded. Even for the newer aircraft if at all put into service on the Goa route, namely the A380 Bus, all that is required is the widening of the runway, and not the lenght of it; as the present runway already has the capacity for the bigger present day aircraft, and the runway lenght is the same for the A380. And of course the 'holding areas, the Lounges and the check in counters and the Immigration counters and the Customs and the Toilets etc, have to be expanded to cope with the extra load of passengers arriving, within the same time frame. So also the parking, roads and connecting network have to be upgraded; all of this can be done and accomodated at Dabiolim itself, same as would needs to be done at Mopa. We do not need this white elephant at Mopa. OK? Nasci Caldeira Melbourne Down Under. From: jaytey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Mopa Replacement Airport. Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:28:03 -0400 It far behond any aspect in the modern concept of international airports in South East Asia. Its location is close to the residential areas of the city, and its infrastructure outdated and very modest to the requirements of International Airlines. I feel the communication between the Government departments and the public is poor and the government should arrange meetings in the different cities and villages to consult and advice the public in the pros and cons of this new venture. We are a democratic country and the decision has to be based on public consensus. Tom de Sousa in Hong Kong
RE: [Goanet] VIEWPOINT on Mopa Airport - 1
From: Goa Desc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] VIEWPOINT on Mopa Airport - 1 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:46:15 +0530 Goa Desc: We are witnessing a fresh attack on the wisdom of having another airport in the state. This is one of the countless explosions of fire that the proposal of Mopa airport has been greeted with since it was conceived in the late 1990s. As in the previous fulminations, so in the current thunder, reason seems to have taken a back seat and emotion looks like having taken over. Nasci says: Where is the 'Wisdom' in the proposal of having a second airport in a small area like Goa, which is in itself underdeveloped in the first place? You and the other protagonists of Mopa, have not given any reasons for Mopa vis a vis the already existing airport at Dabolim; it is being considered only in exclusion as if Goa does not have an airport as a great asset, right in the 'centre' of Goa. Goa Desc says: Mr Churchill Alemao, MP, the dominant characteristic of whose politics through years has been that devil-may-care chivalry, is up and roaring again against the Apocalypse that Mopa is bound surely to bring to the little and big businesses in the south, rendering thousands unemployed. Nasci says: It's true, that what Alemao and myself have been saying on this forum! The businesses and the hotel Industry will go bankrupt in Salcete, Moumugao and Quepem and Canacona, too. And what about the residents wanting to hitch a ride to the airport, who in the case of Canacona will have to go tru more than 100 kms of harrowing and wild life like rides thri Goa's tortuos roads? Humm?? Even If Goa Desc can manage to give/ arrange free rides from canacona/salcete to Pernem; to lighten the financial burden and the inconvenience of it all; waht about the 'time factor' involved in such long distances on narrow below standard roads? will Goa Desc then simply turn back the clock! and/or say: are rau re! rau re! thea sasticar azun paunc nam! in typical Goan Bus style? I hope you guys who ever you are; will take time to really think for yourselves and have the interest of all the residents of 'All of Goa', when talking up this white elephant project at mopa. Mapusa, and Pernem do not alone constitiute Goa! Open your eyes and see, if you are not already blind Goa is all of Goa territory; from North to South and East to West. And Dabolim is in the Center of Goa, and more so, it is already here for so many years! Not a bird in the bush, but active and very helpful and fulfilling the needs of all of Goa residents and tourists! Hah Hah! Goa Desc: Let us not go into motivations, political or otherwise, of the fresh protest, but it is clear that it has been timed with the announcement of the decision by the Mopa airport committee to go ahead with the project and the acquiring by the government of 1 crore sq metres of land for it in the state's northernmost taluka of Pernem. Nasci says; Why should 'Goa' not protest at this sheer absurdity of a second airport and that too in one extreme end of the underdeveloped state? It's not only Alemao! It's everyone almost with reasons! Just that Churchill Alemao is a leader and has been so elected because he is a born leader and has proved himself, in the past. That is why Goa Desc too, and the whole of Goa should rally behind him! Goa Desc; Anybody to disagree with Mr Alemao that the state government or the Centre should not take up any project that would take away income and jobs from people in South Goa would but be a cynic. But will the Mopa airport indeed take away jobs from the south to the north? This question can best be answered by another question: did the Dabolim airport take away jobs from the north to the south? Earnings from tourism have come mainly to four cities and their vicinity in the state: Panaji, Mapusa, Margao and Vasco; and two of them are in the north and two in the south. Do passengers getting off at the Dabolim airport do not check in hotels of the north? Do they not travel to the beaches of the north? Last year's rise in ARR (Average Room Rate) in hotels was not confined only to South Goa; the hotels in North Goa profited from it too. Nasci says; In the above para, you have just proved my point; Because Dabolim is almost in the CENTER OF GOA geographically, and the infrastructure is already there for people to travel to any part of Goa, they wish to! Al that is needed is upgradation of the existing infrastructure and the airport of Dabolim, itself. The moving of the Naval airbase to Sea Bird. is and a neccessary cororally, to secure the future requirements. Goa Desc: When the world is becoming flat, to suggest that Goa can be divided into enclaves is short of saying we do not want development at all. We need to shed our parochial view and grab the opportunities for growth that the present times are offering us. Nasci says: It is Goa Desc which is subconsciously dividing Goa; Why not move
