[Goanet] Re: Ghost at Dona Paula Beach

2005-09-26 Thread diana ratnam
*Dona* *Paula* de Menezes is her full name

On 9/25/05, borg costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My favorite haunted beach in Asia is in Goa. Dona
 Paula Beach there is haunted by the ghost of a
 beautiful Portuguese woman who walks in the surf on
 moonlight nights - naked except for her strand of
 pearls. Her father refused to allow her to marry the
 local Goan native she'd fallen in love with, so she
 killed herself...

 anyone know who is this woman?



[Goanet] Re: The tragic legend of Dona Paula

2005-09-26 Thread Vincent Andrade
CECIL !

DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO DONATH'S MOBILE PHONE ???
I BELIEVE ITS GLASS FRAMED AND ON DISPLAY IN THE NOKIA'S
SHOWROOM (DOUBLE SIX DOUBLE ZERO).

In the days that went by - Ganpat was arrested by the Portuguese Police and
sentenced to life for being seen kissing the statue of Donath in public and 
his phone was confiscated by the then local mobile service provider for non-
payment of his bills. 

Ganpat later died a very distraught man - but still gay !

Cheers !
Vince

From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The column below, by me appeared in Goa Plus some time in January 2003 or
 thereabouts. I can't recall if I have posted it here before but Borg Costa
 did recently query about the legend of Dona Paula.




[Goanet] TWO AIRPORT IDEA GAINS ALTITUDE

2005-09-26 Thread Philip Thomas

1. Charles Bonifacio, President, Travel  Tourism Association of Goa (TTAG)
is one key person who subscribes to the two airport idea for the state
particularly in view of the entry of low-cost airlines into the market.

He believes that ideally the Navy should shift out of Dabolim and it should
be designated the International airport. Mopa should come up only in
conjunction with surface transport improvements in connectivity with
Dabolim. Or else, the Navy will take over totally at Dabolim.

One intriguing observation Charles makes is that the Navy is apparently
reneging on a recent offer to allow charter flights on Fridays. No
elaboration, however.

2. Menino Peres, Director, Dept of Information  Publicity, GOG,  also seems
to believe in the two airport theory. His reason is that the Navy is
unlikely to shift out of Dabolim. He feels Dabolim should be reserved for
DOMESTIC flights and an airport at Mopa should be built for INTERNATIONAL
tourists. But it seems that the Chief Minister is noncommittal on this
issue and is relying on a committee to go into it.  The CM has promised to
clarify things hopefully in the near future.

So there is no real clarity yet about what form the two airports should take
in the best interests of the state.



[Goanet] Nature of Goa's government

2005-09-26 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
It is not my intent to opine on Goa's Airport issue. This appears to be 
consuming Goans both in the native land and in the Diasporas.  Yet this issue 
and a few others about Goan attitude to Goa's government intrigues me.  

Goans need to remember that Goa and India is a DEMOCRACY. But more important 
GOA AND INDIA is a REPUBLIC.  In this form of government, the populace elects 
representatives.  These representatives make decisions on behalf of the 
populace. So if one does not like the decision (or lack there-off) of the 
politicians, the real time to make your opinion felt is at the polls.  And if 
one feels strongly about the ability of the politician, contest the election 
against him or her. After all, IF the politician is so inept and the critic or 
the news-reporter so smart, then the contest should be an easy win, with the 
politician defeated.  

So individual Goans should take a break.  Stop arguing the same point over and 
over again with name calling. If there are some concerns meet with the elected 
official as a delegation and seek action with a TIME TABLE. We need to get on, 
with all of us doing our respective jobs for which we are hired, appointed or 
elected.  Politicians are not paid to get insulted in the press, in cyberspace 
or in person.  We do not advance the cause of government by everyone being an 
expert on everything in our lives. You get my drift.:=))  

Goan politicians are smart enough to make policy decisions and the people have 
to respect their decisions. Or else every Pedro, Gabru and Forcu in each 
village and in every Diaspora will have fifteen opinions on the airport and 
every issue connected with Goa. Fifteen cooks will ruin the soup - guaranteed.

Goans are questioning why or will the govt. provide transportation to the old 
and new airport.  It would appear these Goans do not have any relatives in the 
taxi business or have no interest in owning a fleet of taxis, mini vans or 
buses. Why does the Government have to do everything with YOUR tax rupees??? 
Kind Regards, GL

Nasci Caldeira 
It is high time that the Civilian Authority make demands on the Navy, from 
today, untill such time they can and be able to get out of Dabolim altogether. 
Why not? Dabolim has been civilian from inception; the Navy has to listen to 
the Civil Power in Goa and in New Delhi; they should stop dictating and trying 
to influence locals etc with sops!



[Goanet] Re: World G.O.A.N. network (Reply from Stephen)

2005-09-26 Thread Stephen Fernandes
Dear All, 

worldwide Goan are on the web site we can
see the hard work of Gasper Almeida every details of
Goan are on the site, we Prayer that the work of
Gasper may always on high, we Wish all the Best and
Better Future, God Bless you Gasper.

yours Fellow Goan
Stephen fernandes
Muscat/Divar



[Goanet] ‘DAY DEDICATED TO PORTUGUESE LANGUAGE AND CULTURE’ AT ST XAVIER’S

2005-09-26 Thread St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science Commerce - Mapusa -
‘DAY DEDICATED TO PORTUGUESE LANGUAGE AND CULTURE’ AT ST XAVIER’S


 A day dedicated to Portuguese language and culture was 
organized at St Xavier’s College, Mapusa, in association with Fundação 
Oriente, on 3rd September 2005. The theme for the occasion was ‘Portuguese 
language, today and tomorrow’.

 This is the third year in succession that the College is 
holding such an event at the state level in order to promote the Portuguese 
language which is not only widely spoken in our state but is also offered 
as a subject in the curriculum.

 The programme for the occasion included a talk on ‘The 
Relevance of the Portuguese language in the world today’, by the 
Consul-General of Portugal in Goa, Dr Pedro Cabral Adão; quiz contest for 
students of Higher Secondary Schools and Colleges of Goa; a documentary on 
Portugal; an exhibition of Portuguese artifacts and snacks by ‘A Nau’, and 
a Reading Competition for the students of Stds. VIII, IX and X from Goa.

 The inaugural function was held in the College hall at 9.30 
a.m. The Principal, in his welcome address, first thanked Fundação Oriente 
for rendering help in conducting such a programme for the past three years. 
He also thanked the Chief Guest Dr. Pedro Cabral Adão and the Guest of 
Honour Dr Mafalda Mascarenhas de Almeida for gracing the occasion. He urged 
the audience to learn the Portuguese language. He also explained the 
purpose behind holding such an event which will motivate the Std X and Std 
XII students to continue the learning this language which as rich scope 
with respect to job opportunities in India as well as abroad.

 The Consul-General of Portugal, in his address, explained how 
knowledge of a multitude of language has helped him reach great heights. He 
congratulated the Principal and Staff for taking the initiative to organize 
such an event and offered to help the College to conduct such activities in 
the future.

 Dr Mafalda Mascarenhas de Almeida, in her address, expressed 
satisfaction that the event has gained popularity over the past three years 
that she has been attending it. She also reiterated the need for learning 
many languages as an asset in various spheres of life.

 Later, a delightful cultural programme depicting Portuguese 
music and culture was presented by the students of the College.

 The morning session also included a quiz contest for students 
of the higher secondary schools and colleges from all over the State. The 
rounds included general knowledge on Portugal, visual round on Portuguese 
monuments and personalities, ‘Bom Português’ (testing language skills) and 
Portuguese proverbs. There was enthusiastic participation from the audience 
as well. There was a tie for the second place but eventually Damodar Higher 
Secondary School of Science, Margão, triumphed over V. S. Dempo Higher 
Secondary School of Commerce, Panjim, after a tie-breaker round. The first 
place was won by St Xavier’s Higher Secondary School, Mapusa.

 The afternoon session began with a documentary on Portugal.

 This was followed by a Reading Competition for Stds VIII, IX 
and X students from all over Goa. The prizes were given in three categories 
per class. In the Std VIII category, Master Ivan Rodrigues of Loyola High 
School, Margao, won the first place, Miss Chelsea Mendes of Mary Immaculate 
Girls High School, Panjim, won the second place while Miss Gabriella D’Cruz 
of Lourdes Convent, Saligao, won the third place.

 In the Std IX category, Master Francis Tchkombe of Our Lady of 
Divar High School won the first place, Miss Larissa Lobo of St Mary’s High 
School, Mapusa, won the second place and Miss Olivia Tchkombe of Our Lady 
of Divar High School won the third place.

 In the Std X category, Miss Larissa Carvalho of St Mary’s 
Convent, Mapusa, won the first place, Miss Jayawanti Loundo of Mushtifund 
High School won the second place while Master Edmar Camara Hendricks of 
Loyola High School, Margao, won the third place.

 One of the judges of the Reading Competition, Mrs Celina 
Almeida, while addressing the audience after the competition, appreciated 
the efforts of the young participants and also advised them as to how they 
can develop their knowledge of the language as well as the diction.

 The programme concluded with a vote of thanks by Mr Omar 
Ursula de Souza. The programme was coordinated by Mrs Isabel de Noronha 
with the assistance of Mrs Marilou Ferrão and Mrs Sara de Sá.

 The programme was compered by Mr Omar de Souza in Portuguese 
and Miss Renita Ferreira in English.



[Goanet] Is Goa underselling itself?

2005-09-26 Thread Cecil Pinto
Some weeks back V M de Malar wrote in Herald about Goa going the Bali way 
where the locals are outnumbered by the outsiders who own the hotels and a 
lot of the prime land.

I sent the article to, among others, my friend Justine Andrews, from the 
Isle of Wight, who has been holidaying in Goa every year for the past nine 
years. Here is her reaction. I quote with her permission.


--- quote ---

I think it's potentially a problem, but I'm not convinced that it will 
extend far beyond the beach belt and that encouraging long term commitment 
to the state and the country might help.

Better that someone is investing in Goa than no-one, but how to get the 
right sort of investment? Not sure I know the answer! Perhaps through the 
planning permission system - is there one? I think that there should be 
long term planning about tourism in Goa. I realise this sounds like me 
saying all tourists should be like us, but here goes We both feel that 
Goa under-sells itself to tourists. When we first came to Goa we stayed at 
the XX (Hotel name changed - Cecil)  on a package, it wasn't cheap, but 
it was good value considering how far away we had come. The service from 
the staff was fantastic - very professional, but also friendly and 
welcoming. We went home describing Goa as affordable luxury. Our next visit 
(two years later) confirmed our opinion, but over the years the standards 
of service went down. The old hands who had been there for years were 
still excellent, but newer staff weren't trained to the same standard and 
then they got rid of the staff who'd been there for a long time (too 
expensive). It wasn't that the service was bad, but they didn't make it 
extra special. We used to sit up in the bar before dinner, watching the sun 
go down. The drinks would be served with a small bowl of crispy nibbles and 
you never had to top your own glass up, later you got your glass and your 
beer/wine. It's not a big difference, but to me it's the difference between 
5* and 3*. I feel that this coincided with the rise of the all inclusive 
holiday. These holidays tend to attract the beer and chips with everything 
type of holiday maker. When we heard a man who was a head teacher telling 
someone that he didn't really like Indian food that just about summed it 
up for me. At the end of our stay the reception staff felt the need to 
explain why our bill was so high (about £200 I think). We had had wine 
and had eaten at the not all inclusive restaurant and I had several 
ayurvedic treatments - we thought the bill was completely reasonable, but 
it seemed as though they were used to people getting upset at having to pay 
anything at the end of their stay.
I'm not entirely sure where I'm going with this - just rambling really - or 
whether I've really answered any of the points made, but I do feel that the 
industry should be playing up the added value side of things to encourage 
the sort of tourist who wants to appreciate Goa for what it is rather than 
just spending two weeks by the pool eating and drinking.

Justine

P.S.

Sorry I missed something out of my thoughts about all inclusives. From 
what I understand it's the tour operators that make the money - the hotels 
actually lose out because they're not taking the money direct (e.g. our 
huge £200 hotel bill). So neither Goans or foreigners investing in Goa 
make the real money, but the tour operators in the U.K., Russia, Germany, 
where ever and they seem to be far less interested in what's good for Goa 
than (say) I would be if I'd just invested my life savings in a business 
there.
Ramble over

Justine

--- end quote 





[Goanet] Rafael De Majorda's show Release In Europe.

2005-09-26 Thread Rafael Fernandes
After showing many shows in goa and gulf countries, director and play writer 
Rafael de Majorda is the First young Goan to release the DVD titled SOBIT 
SUNDOR KONKANI MUSICAL SHOW In Europe. The DVD of the show was released 
during the celeberation of India's Independence-day onboard Ship Grand 
Voyager. DVD was released by the Captain of the ship Mr PIETRO ESPOSITO 
from Italy, and was also released all over the world same day. During time of 
release, There were many Goans and other country guess were present during the 
ceremony and all of then gave Mr. Rafael de Majorda and Captain Mr. PIETRO 
ESPOSITO and not forgetting  a top singer all the way from Venuzuela, Miss 
Yasnahia Sodiana Perez Osorio a very warm welcome. Also Not forgetting a well 
known Goan Mr. MICHAEL LOBO from Conculim was the Host of that day and he gave 
a very warm welcome to then. In the show there are many Jokes and Webbed by 20 
scintillating song with 18 actors performing in it. The DVD contain musical 
show and clipping. It contains clipping from Europe, showing the lives of Goan 
settled in Europe and working on ship.
 
when in Europe Rafael de Majorda meet many Goan and interviewed them and due 
to him many Goans got opportunity to watch musical show in Europe. The live 
show of SSKMS was held in padem-mapusa-goa, in the year January, 2005, in 
open air-Auditorrium. The Auditorrium was jam-packed and there were no tickets 
available,all ticket were sold. So, most of the people were disappointed 
becouse they couldn't see the show. But, now i would like to tell all the 
Konkanni Lovers that, not to get disappointed because, the same show DVD is 
being released and is available in market.

whatever income he got through this show was donated for Tsunami Victims, the 
show was organized by Fr. Gabriel Dias and compared by director Rafael De 
Majorda with lots of jokes and energy.
 
Starring, Felcy, Alisha, Savianna, Sonia, Priyaka, Janet, Y chico, Jr chico, 
Socorro de santa cruz, Marcelin de batim, Ben, Jose, Bernard, Wileam de 
courtorim, Roger-weliem  Rafael De Majorda.
 
Wait for his next release TELE FILM, GIB MUNSHACHI KATOR VICACHI Releasing 
soon.
 
 
 
Eric Rodlof.
Europe-Italy.
23-09-2005.



[Goanet] Konkani Lekh

2005-09-26 Thread Daniel F.de Souza
Sunnem  - Moipaxi ani Visvaxi Mon'zat

Borovpi: Daniel F. deSouza.

Soglleam zon'varam poros sunneacho mhaka khub mog ani moipas. Sunnea itlem 
moipaxi ani visvaxi zon'var hanvem anik dusrem polleunk nam. Sunnea porim ek 
ghoddo pasun visvaxi, punn tachea visvaxiponnacho onnbhov mhaka nam.  Horxinch 
zalear sunneacho mhaka lhan'ponnim savnuch moipas. Aiz meren hanvem mhojea 
jivitant tin sunnim posleant ani tancho mog moipas onnbhovla. Tea xivai mhojea 
ixttanger legun asat tim sunnim mhoje lagim mog-moipasan vagtat.

Monis bheiman ani onupkari. Mon'xak tum xembhor fautt borem kor, punn ek fautt 
ek kitem borem korunk chuklear to tujer portota. Adim xembhor khep borem 
kel'lo monis  soroll visorta ani tuzo dusman zata. Punn sunnea sarki mon'zat 
toxi nhoi. Tem zon'var khub visvaxi ani upkari. Tum taka ekech fautti borem 
kor ani tem tujem jivitbhor ixtt zatlem ani tujea upkarant ravtelem. Tachea 
visvasak mon'xancho visvas kosoch sor korinezo. Monis kama-purto-mama. Sunnea 
koddsun hanvem khub mog ani visvaxiponn onnbhovlam ani halinch ghoddlele eke 
ghoddnukek lagun hea vixoiacher don utram boroin-xem mhaka ievzolem.

Kaim vorsam fattim Saliganv, Bardez, Albino De Souza mhojea eka 
ixttager  'Lassie' nanvachem ek vhoddlem 'Alsatian' sunnem aslem. Lhan savn 
tem mhoje vangdda khellttalem. Uprant tem vhodd zatoch sompeponnim ghora-
bhaileank koxench lagim dhorinaslem punn hanv tanger gelear mhaka tem itlem 
ukllun dhortalem ki tachim dhoniam legun taka ojeaptalim. Ek vichitrponn 
sangchem mhonnlear, hanv tanger bhett diunk vetana khub pois astanch taka 
mhojea vasar gomtalem ani tem aplea ghora bhitor astana kachabul zatalem. 
Daraxim vochun ani zonelacher uddki marun tem zonelache gradintlean tondd 
bhair ghalun mhaka polletalem. Tachea hea vichitr vagpa udexim tachea 
ghorcheank legun gomtalem ki hanv ghoddie tanger ieunche vatter asa mhunn. 
Fokot ghorchea dhonia xivai osli vagnnuk tem sunnem fokot mhojech koden dhakol 
kori.

'Tasha' mhojem pomeranian sunnem sumar sat vorsam jielem. Ani hea sat vorsank 
tannem mhaka khub mog-moipas, man  ani visvas dilo.  Gineanan tem khub huxear 
ani vagnnuken khub somjik. Mon'xak pasun kaim vellar itli somjikai aschina 
jitli somjikai hea sunneak asli.  Hatamni pasun xinalam korun sanglear tem 
somzotalem. Koslench pievpachem okhod vo tonic taka diunk zai zalear taka 
battli dakhoilearuch tem ieun mhojexim bosun bhurgea bhoxen aplem tondd ugtem 
korun boso. Uprant kuleran taka okhod diunk zai aslem. Oslem sunnem hanvem 
anik dusrem azun polleunk nam. Zorui hanv fridge-antli 'cadbury' kaddun khatam 
zalear, 'silver- paper'-acho avaz aikun tem khoim asa thoimsorlem mhojexim 
ieun rokhddench don paiamcher  ubhem zatalem ani aplo 'cadbury'-cho vantto 
dilea viret thoinchem koxench halonaslem. Mhoji maim kedna duent aslear tem 
tichi fatt soddinaslem, tiche baje pondak bosun ravtalem ani ti utth'tta tedna 
apunn utthun tichea fatta-fatt apunn bhonvtalem.

1993 vorsa Goeant bhuim-kamp zala te ratricho mhaka azun ugddas ieta. Te ratik 
tem mhoje baje pondchem utthun okosmat zomnir bosun mhaka nidhla to polleun  
utthounk laglem. Aple donui hat tannem voir kaddle ani bajer dovorle. Hanvem 
taka nidhunk agro kelo punn tem koxench nidhonaslem. Porot-porot voir 
polletalem. Tem kitem sangunk sodhta tem mhaka somzolem nam. Anik kaim  voram 
modhem te ratik bhuim-kamp zaun amchi baz ek vhoddem koxem dholonk lagli ani  
hanv ani mhoji ghorkarn ekach farak zagim zalim. Ami tisre mallier ravtalim.

Hanv ghora bhair vetoch 'Tasha'  mhoji vatt polloit dara somor bosun ravtalem. 
Ken'nai hanv kaim disank Goem bhair ghel'lom asot zalear tem aplem jevonn 
legun khaunk ienaslem, nam mhunn aple boxiek vollun legun pollenaslem. Ek don-
tin dis tem oxench kori. Uprant taka somzaun baie-puta korun, lhan bhurgea 
vori jevonn jevunk agro korcho poddo.  Ek dis tem okosmat duent zalem ani 
Vasku voizak tachi pidda survatek gomlich nam. Ek suman uprant hanvem taka Dr. 
Merilyn Estibeiro hi zon'varanchi voiz tedna Porvorim astali tichexim vhelem. 
Taka topastoch tinnem tachi poristhiti chodd gombhir mhunn mhaka gomoilem. 
Fuddlim 36 voram kaddlear borem zaupak xoketai asa mhunn tinnem mhaka te ratik 
sanglem. Tea disa Porvorim mhojea mottorantuch bosun taka ek sor ghalo. Uprant 
dusro sor taka dusre sokallim sumar 11 horancher ghalunk mhaka dotoran 
formailem. Dusre sokallim 8.30 vorancher hanv taka thoddem dudh bhoroun mhojea 
offisak gelom, ani sumar 10.30 vorar ghora portolom; taka dotoraxim vhorun 
dusro sor lavpak. Taka hanvem zapailem ani nhidentlem tem utthlem. Zaiti 
tozvit korun tannem apli man voir kaddun mhaka pollelo ani porot nhidunk 
gelem. Hanv taka mhoje vengent dhorun mottorant ghalunk gelom voizager 
vhorunk. Zalear, tannem mhozo hat aple jiben lhenvpak proitn kelo, punn taka 
boll zaina zalem. Dusre ghoddie-bhitor tannem mhoje vengent astanach apli man 
bagoun mhojea hatamni aplo prann soddlo.  Mhaka oxem dislem ki zait ghoddie 
tem aplo prann soddunk hanv ghora ie meren mhakach 

[Goanet] Re: Ghost at Dona Paula Beach

2005-09-26 Thread Alfred de Tavares
From: Helga do Rosario Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am pretty sure this is a myth to entice tourists. I was told so by a Goan
historian P. Noronha.
Helga



Helga, apply to Mario Cabral e Sa.

He tells the story beautifully.

I don't have his e-address but, Divar, Ilhas will get him.

Alfred, a great ghost-afficionado.



[Goanet] Re: World G.O.A.N. network

2005-09-26 Thread Alfred de Tavares
Dear, George, Blandino, Gaspar,

Is there any online sign-up list for Romi Konkni circulating?

Please advise me and I will instantly begin harassing Goans here to oblige.

AT




[Goanet] Re: Portuguese Terror / Inquisition

2005-09-26 Thread Henrique Salles da Fonseca
Dear Sir,

Thank you very much for your message.

I'm not in a position to educate anyone; on the contrary, I would like to 
receive some education more.

All the archives of Goa Inquisition are in Torre do Tombo in Lisbon. Apart 
from all those documents, you may also find in Lisbon the home place of the 
portuguese jesuit province and all their documents at Colégio de S. João de 
Brito (Alameda das Linhas de Torres) and at Brotéria (Rua Maestro António 
Taborda).

I agree with you that novels are not historical documents; however, writers 
like Richard Zimmler, awake common people for historical matters that perhaps 
would never arise if novels shouldn't exist. In my opinion, it is very 
important that novelists inform their readers that in his scripts there is a 
frontier between reality and fiction and it is the mission of readers to 
discover where that frontier stays.

For historical investigation not everyone has time and knowledge; it is much 
more easy to be a novelist.

Best regards,
Henrique Salles da Fonseca / Lisbon

 From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 When will Goans and foreign tourists and Ph D students, writing FICTIONAL 
 novels / and made-up thesis about Goa, write some facts - as they pertain 
 to Goa?  Most take the easy way and substitute, transplant and confuse the 
 Inquisition in Goa with the Inquisition in Europe.



[Goanet] The Passage to India

2005-09-26 Thread Francis Lobo
THE  PASSAGE  TO  INDIA
Francis Lobo

My return to India from U.S.A. was by Thai Airways, which gave me a paid stop 
over at Bangkok  ---  while I was a guest of the airlines at the hotel, I had 
to pay for a visa to leave the airport  entry tax to re-enter, with charges 
for a photograph, city tour, tips  trinkets it became quite a tidy sum. 
During the tour of Gems  Jewelry International you were greeted by charming 
Thai girls who educated you on stones, the making of jewelry  kept you 
engaged till you picked up something for a loved one back home. India can 
learn a thing or two on tourism  sales from the Thai girls.

During the long journey over the Pacific I saw more movies in one trip than I 
saw in a full year in school in the 40s. The topics ranged from how to pretend 
that you are a winner when you are actually a chronic loser [valuable tips for 
me considering my past performance  forecasts for my future] to how leopards 
protect themselves  their loved ones from predators like lions  hyenas by 
hiding in trees. One can learn a lot on how to succeed  survive by watching 
TV  animals.

I have wondered why people are always having a shower when I call. I got the 
answer in Thailand Your importance is measured by the baths you have  ---  
only they spell it BAHT. I understand that Thailand has embraced the Free 
Market. I walked the glitzy malls at the airport with exquisite perfumes, 
exotic eatables  exciting apparel but nothing was free  ---  I had even to 
pay for water. The free market is a myth. At the perfumery store they had all 
the famed products  ---  Estee Lauder, Christian Dior, Loreal, Yves Sant 
Laurent, Elizabeth Arden --- It took your breath away  ---  You had to sniff 
any perfume you showed some interest in. But don’t think that the Thai 
interest in humans is only Skin Deep. As you leave the shop you are greeted by 
a collection box, which reads “Donate Generously for Tsunami Victims”. Further 
down another collection box reads, “ The Quality of Mercy is not strained”. A 
mother is explaining to her son the meaning  ---  mercy  compassion are not 
extinct, there are still some “strains” of it left in some human beings.

It is not ethical for me to tell the fascinating story of the Sukhothai 
Traimit Golden Buddha  deprive the tourist guide of her earnings in doing so. 
Its weight of 5 tons of pure gold could probably pay off the entire debt of 
India. In some religions it is a practice to give a relic to the devotees who 
visit the shrine  ---  a piece of clothing of the saint or something. I would 
have appreciated a relic in the form of a piece of the Golden Buddha.

The Thais have perfected the art of the Massage  ---  you can have it 
specially for the face, the hands, the shoulders, the whole body, for 
relaxation, rejuvenation, detoxification [whatever that means] slimming, the 
whole package. The charges range from 1,500- 5,000 bahts  could last from1-3 
hours. There are also special rates for Sex Massage. To encourage customers 
there is a TV screen showing live what is going on inside  ---  only of the 
normal massage, of course. Again India can learn from the Thais  ---  money 
for money, tourists would prefer a massage any time to a lesson in yoga.

I had heard so much about Indians leading the Economic Renaissance of the 21st 
Century. Like the American movie celebrities I wanted to show my appreciation 
to our men on the front line studying  earning in foreign lands.  I greeted 
this guy, “From which part of India do you come?” “No, I am from Pakistan”. 
This couple was speaking Bengali. “ You are from Bengal?” “No, we are Bangla 
Deshis”. From my little understanding of Tamil, I was certain this family was 
from Tamil Nadu. Wrong again. They were from Sri Lanka. I consoled myself  
---  even Christopher Columbus made the same mistake thinking that people who 
behave like Indians are Indians.

I was embarrassed on a couple of occasions on entering toilets to find women 
who were not up to speed on how to operate gadgets like aircraft toilet doors. 
I was reminded about the seniors in Santa Monica, who have to be accompanied 
by lovely young attendants to unscrew the caps of pet bottles, tear open 
plastic bags or rip apart tetra packs so that they could get at the contents. 
Technology has its down side. At the Departure Control in Bangkok there is a 
sign, “Sorry for the Inconvenience. We are upgrading the new system” 
Technology is moving so fast that even a new system needs upgrading!



[Goanet] Re: Moving Ahead

2005-09-26 Thread Joe Lobo
Cynthia !

  while i feel i`m being  naive in replying  to your 
message..you``ve got the  right attitude.!ie; be positive 
   not all goans are rushing to disparage you.. but 
are willing to help fellow  g`s if they can...realistically  most of  us 
live in varying circumstacesbut the  goodwill and helpful spirit 
exists in most of us !
as we  say here in Toronto.go Cynthia  go 
!!!
 and   may you light  the  spirit  of  charity  in  many of  us  who  may 
be  inward looking (ie: being  selfish !!)

 May  Pdre Agnel  help  you in your  endeavours !
   a 
goan  in  TO.


- Original Message - 
From: Cynthia Fernandes

 It takes many inches to make a mile.

 We can only move by inches, one inch at a time.
 It's when we look miles ahead and wonder 'how
 are we going to get so far?' that we fail to move forward at all.



[Goanet] Position Available- SAP FI Resource in the US- Bilingual Portuguese/English

2005-09-26 Thread George Pinto
From: Alick Nilesh Barreto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Position Available- SAP FI Resource in the US- Bilingual 
Portuguese/English

Hi Everyone with friends in the US,

Would anyone of you know a Bilingual Portuguese/English SAP FI resource in the 
US- either
citizens, green card holders or H1's (currently working) who may want to work 
in Brazil later or
could help in transfer of knowledge to their Brazilian counterparts.

Do let me know at the earliest. This is an urgent requirement in Concorde, 
California. Project
Duration: 1 year.
 
Thanks.
 
Rgds,
Alick, [EMAIL PROTECTED]




[Goanet] Re: Still no native Indian Catholic Saint

2005-09-26 Thread George Pinto
--- Lawrence Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 If yes, why wait for a *firangi* in Rome to declare XYZ as *our very
 own saint*?  Let's go ahead and declare to the world that XYZ is
 henceforth *our very own* native Indian Catholic saint.
 
 
Good point Lawrence. I consider a few other Goans as saints too besides Bl. Vaz.

Regards,
George
 
 




[Goanet] Re: Still no native Indian Catholic Saint

2005-09-26 Thread George Pinto
--- Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Further to my earlier email - apologies to George if it came out too strong.


Gabriel

Absolutely no problem.  It is good to read different views, even opposing views 
(Or should I write
especially opposing views).  A good healthy discussion never hurt anyone.  Much 
appreciate your
comments and Jose's.

Regards,
George  



[Goanet] Roddo Naka For Bahrain Goans

2005-09-26 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
*Roddo Naka For Bahrain Goans*

One of the prime form of entertainment for Goans in Goa and around the globe
is the konkani tiatr. The past years saw many Goan theatre groups touring
the gulf and Bahrain was included in the itinerary. However, after the show
of Pio Fernandes featuring the nightingale of Konkani stage Lorna in
November 2000, there has been a complete silence of the Konkani tiatrists
and tiatr organisers in Bahrain. The reason - not the unusual Goan politics
had led to innumerable hardships for the organisers of this show and
thereafter quietude engulfed the Konkani stage in Bahrain.

Its after a gap of five years the Goans in Bahrain will now have an
opportunity to watch a drama by a full professional troupe flown in from
Goa. La Ferns - the only Goan restaurant in Bahrain in association with The
Folk Theatre has announced a drama on 18 November'2005. Having performed to
houseful audiences in Goa, Mumbai and Pune, the top theatre personality and
comedian of the kKnkani stage Prince Jacob is set to present 'Roddo Naka' at
the Bishop Trinanzi Auditorium, Manama at 6.30 p.m.

The comedy by Prince Jacob and his brother Humbert makes the theatre lovers
flock to his performances. In his play Roddo Naka, the director has
touched upon the social issues mixed with comedy and scintilating songs.
Further details of this show in Bahrain can be had from La Ferns Restaurant.

Meanwhile, Prince Jacob's longest running play Padri (315 shows) that has
been made into a film is scheduled for release in October 2005. The film
under the direction of Rajesh Fernandes is produced by Raymond Quadros. The
Mangalorean maestro Wilfy Rebimbus has scripted the lyrics for the film
featuring Goan and Mangalorean artistes.


G.R.Crasto/Bahrain

for
www.goaworld.com exclusive

 You heard it first at www.goa-world.com ---

*Prince Jacob Autobiography*

*http://www.goa-world.com/goa/princejacob/*

{This autobiography of Prince Jacob as archived on the www.goa-world.com
website is conceptualized by Gaspar Almeida. It has pictures, tiatr reviews, 
souvenirs, newspaper cuttings, info on tiatrs, CDs, audio-cassettes, tiatr 
leaflets on Prince Jacob}

- www.goa-world.com have shown the way for tiatrists that you can archive your
material for posterity. Who knows your child might use it for some research 
work!

**

http://www.goa-world.com/goa/kuwait/1997/princej.htm

*By Wellington Dias*

A review as published by V-Ixtt on RODO NAKA

*RODDONAKA- NIT ANI ONITICHIM ANGAM DAKHOVPI TIATR *Amchea desant nit na.
Onitik bhorpur suvat asa. Bhov korun rajki ani pulis Khateachea mollar.
Dekhunuch amchea Haka lagun amchea desant svotontrtaiechim follam chakunk
mellonant. Hem chitr pollevn Prince Jacob-achem mon borench koddu zalam.
Mhunnonuch *Roddonaka* hea aplea novea tiatrantlean lokak zagrut korpachem
tannem panvl ubarlam. *Roddonaka* tiatrant Xikxonn Montri
Mr.Borgesacho *(Jacinto Gracias)* ghorabo. Aplea hatanchea bottancher pulisank 
sutachim bavlim koxim khellovpi rajkornni. Apnnak zai toxem pulisamnim 
vagchem. Ani khorzota thoim taka khorpunk mellona zatoch khuinchea pulisachi 
khuim ani kedna boldi zait ti sangunk zaina. Laximan *(Rosario De Benaulim)* 
oi, oi korpi nokor. Tosoch tacho *PA* Mergulhao (Humberto) utth mhonnta tedna 
utthpi. Bos mhonnta thoim bospi, oslea sobhavacho. Zalear, tacho mhellea 
ontoskornacho put Mark *(Mark De Araujo )*. Fulte kolle fulam pisddun uddovpi 
ran'votti mon'zati sarkea sobhavacho asta. Ek vidva ostorecho *(Diana)* dhuv 
Sonia *(Carmen ) *montreachea ghorant *Secretary*-che nokrek gelole kodden 
Borges montreacho put Mark tachea nirmollponnacheo paklleo pisuddta. Tedna 
Soniak ho somazuch nhoi,
punn tachi khaxea avoi legit taka mandun ghevnk kobul asona. Potrkar tache
kodde mulakhati ghevn tacho ibadd zalolo man-abru loka meren pavoupak
luchkam koxim lagtat tem Prince Jacoban bhes borem dakhoilam. Oslea vellar,
jivar ubgovlelea Soniak mozot korunk *Zagrut Bailanchi Fouz* sonsthechi
vavurpi Priya Cordeiro *(Annie)* nit mellovpa khatir, montreachea ani tachea
putachea kanak boroch pill ghalta. Aplea holkott putachea vaitt korubancher
dhampnnem ghalunk montri Borges nit ani xist samballpi Pulis Konstable Jack
Santanak *(Prince Jacob)* godd pedde divpache iotn kortana dista. Punn
koddok Jack Santan, 500 rupianchim nottam divn jikhun ailolea montreak
boreoch uttha-boxeo kaddunk laita. Oxi hea tiatrachi kotha fuddem veta. *
Roddonaka* tiatrant sogllim mellun orthabhorit baram kantaram aikunk
melltat. Priyankache koddok bhumikentlean Annie Quadros-an hea tiatrak
odikuch sobai haddlea mhonnlear fott zavchi na. Niti khatir zhuztana tachea
ragixtt sobhavantlean aplea kodden kosli-i okhondd bhumika korunk zata mhonn
tannem prekxokank pottoun dilam. Mark De Araujo, Diana, Elvis, Carmen,
Jacinto ani Rosario De Benaulim hannim tokhnnai korpa sarki bhumika kelea.
Amchea desant nit ani onit kitli matlea hem *Roddonaka* tiatrant dakhoilam.
Rajkornni ani pulisanchim vaitt kortubam 

[Goanet] Sesa Goa flares up on a possible rise in ore prices

2005-09-26 Thread Frederick Noronha
Sesa Goa flares up on a possible rise in ore prices

DALAL STREET SPIKES

Our Markets Bureau / Mumbai September 23, 2005

The Sesa Goa Ltd scrip was up 3.61 per cent to Rs 991 in today's subdued
market. The scrip closed at Rs 956.50 on Wednesday. Around 11.97 lakh
shares got traded on the BSE today. The scrip touched an intra-day high
of Rs 1,028 today. 
 
The share price of Sesa Goa, an iron ore company, was on an upward
spiral since Monday on talks that BHP, an Australian company, said in an
analyst conference that the iron ore prices are likely to rise by 10 per
cent. 
 
Sesa Goa Limited, the flagship company of Sesa Group is India’s largest
exporter of iron ore in the private sector. 
 
The Group has been involved in iron ore mining, beneficiation and
exports, with a group turnover of around Rs. 600 crores for the past
five decades. 
 
Sesa Goa Limited has mining operations in Goa, Karnataka and Orissa.
Over the last decade, the company has diversified into the manufacture
of pig iron and metallurgucal coke.



[Goanet] Re: Still no native Indian Catholic Saint

2005-09-26 Thread jose colaco
George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Sept. 25, 2005

Today is the 320th anniversary of the founding of India and the modern 
Third  World’s first fully native religious Congregation by Blessed Joseph 
Vaz and  his Oratorian companion priests on September 25th, 1685. Blessed 
Joseph Vaz  has the official title of “Apostle of Kanara and Sri Lanka for 
his heroic  work in re-founding the missions around Mangalore and the Church 
in Sri Lanka under Dutch persecution. The process for his Cause for 
Beatification and  Canonization was started in 1713. It took until 1985 for 
the Church to declare  him a “Blessed.” Why? Because the documentation and 
miracles submitted to Rome  were annulled and rejected more than once on 
account of the Church’s earlier racial prejudice.




The Blessed Joseph Vaz canonization issue raises many other issues:

1. Why is there a block ?

2. Are the requirements for Sainthood the same for every nominee?

3. What is it that Blessed Joseph Vaz did not do that some of the fast track 
candidates have done?

4. Has the Goa Archbishop's office done enough to do what is right for a 
Goan son of the soil ?

5. One could understand the retiscence of the Goa Church  the Vatican to 
engage in Masterful inactivity when the BJP was in control of the centre and 
Goa, BUT what is the excuse now?


George Pinto's  above quoted post makes absolute sense.


In short: Either the Goa Archbishop's office or the Vatican (or both) are 
asleep, incompetent or just do not care about basic fairness.

The above goes wrt the case of Pde. Agnelo (and others) too.

Do I expect any attention from the Goa Archbishop on this matter ?

I don't know. So far, the stance of his office has been . Silencio is 
the melior policy

And that is very disconcerting indeed.

Many Goan Catholics drifted away from the Catholic Church when this 
incomprehensible S-Konkani was introduced, more when the parish priests were 
indiscriminately transfered, some more when priests had 'interesting' life 
styles, a good number when the Church remained rigid in promoting the 
hopelessly ineffective 'natural' family planning method, a good number were 
numbed by the sex abuse scandal  and finally I know more than a few who 
were concerned at the Zuzefication of Blessed Joseph Vaz.

The explanation which was given was that there was NO J in Konkani when 
written in the Romi script (or therabouts)  Someone forgot Jezu (jesus) 
!! who I believe is the reason why there are Catholics in this world.

Maybe, they are hoping that ALL Goan Catholics will stop participating in 
church services in Goa - probably travel to Karwar or Belgaum to do the 
same.

Then, the Goa Church can sell off all its real estate including the 
churches.

That would make their swadeshi friends very happy indeed !

Like I said in the ABUSE scandal,  - in the Blessed Joseph Vaz case too,  
Goan Catholics must stand up and say their piece to their Church. The dust 
we sweep under the carpet will come back to cause serious allegies in the 
future !


If this sounds cynical , so be it. It is exactly how I feel.

I also feel that the name of Blessed Joseph Vaz should be exactly as his 
GIVEN name and nada mas !!

just my view

jose colaco (NOT zuze and definitely NOT zuze naik (or nayak) colaco)



[Goanet] LATE ROSARIO RODRIGUES SHOW HANV KALLOKHANT SANDLIM IN KUWAIT

2005-09-26 Thread sylvester vaz
RR PRODUCTION,KUWAIT IS ALL SET TO STAGE - A CLASSIC AND PHILOSOPHICAL 
MASTERPIECE OF LATE DR.ROSARIO RODRIGUES (SHAKESPEARE OF KONKANI STAGE)ENTITLED


HANV KALLOKHANT SANDLIM  


THIS SHOW WILL BE STAGED ON 11 NOVEMBER 2005 

AT 3.30 PM AT THE NEWLY RENOWATED GULF ENGLISH SCHOOL HALL,RUMETHIYA, KUWAIT 
AND ON A SPECIAL DESIGNED STAGE.

WITH TOP ORIGINAL ARTISTS SPECIALLY COMING FROM GOA: IRENE VAZ, MEENA LEITAO, 
MAXCY PEREIRA, COMEDIAN BEN EVANGELISTO, COMEDIAN BEBO, AND LATEST CHILD 
PRODIGY AND-FAME OF DHIR ADAR BHORVANSO BABY MURIEL, ALONG WITH TOP SELECTED 
STARS FROM KUWAIT. MUSIC: BY ONE MAN BAND: SHAHU

REMEMBER THIS WAS A FINEST PRESENTATION THAT BROKE SEVERAL RECORDS ON GOAN 
KONKANI STAGE 

FOR FURTHER NEWS CONTACT: 7870433, 6184198, 9568793


Sylvester Vaz



[Goanet] SPV planned for Mangalore SEZ... Skybus...

2005-09-26 Thread Lawrence Rodrigues
Business Standard
Our Correspondent / Mangalore September 27, 2005

The Kanara Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KCCI) is in the process of forming
a special purpose vehicle (SPV) for the implementation of the Mangalore Special
Economic Zone and the State government has been approached for this purpose, A
Srinivas Rao, newly re-elected president of the KCCI told reporters here on
Saturday.
:
:
Rao said that a proposal has been handed over to Konkan Railways to introduce
the skybus project in the district. The technical feasibility study of the
project is proposed to be mooted through Mangalore Urban Development Authority
(MUDA). A presentation on the project by Konkan Railways will be arranged by the
KCCI shortly, he said.
:
:
He said the KCCI is willing to participate in tourism development projects as a
key promoter in the future. He wanted the government to take up tourism
development seriously.


Full details at:
http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?storyflag=yleftnm=lmnu2leftindx=2lselect=1chklogin=Nautono=201314




Re: [Goanet] Re: Still no native Indian Catholic Saint (Mario Goveia)

2005-09-26 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has this subject come here before?
 
 Isn't an East Indian monk from Bassein, Gonzalo, 
 among the 13 matrys of Japan?
 
Mario replies:

Eugene,

I have no idea.  All I was suggesting was that anyone
interested in inquiring about or lobbying for a
first native Indian saint could inquire with
Cardinal Lourdaswamy's office at the Vatican in Rome.




[Goanet] SGPIAG --- TRAVEL ADVISORY (GOA)

2005-09-26 Thread President\(sgpiag\)
We,at South Goa Public Interest Action Group  (SGPIAG)
a registered NGO based in Margao, Salcete, South Goa
District ,Goa India with jurisdiction, at present,
over the entire South Goa Parliamentary Constituency 
extend a warm welcome on WORLD TOURISM DAY to all the
international and domestic tourist to our 25th tiny
State of Goa.  

To understand Goa browse through the map for its
geographical features.

The western ghat talukas SATTARI SANGUEM AND CANACONA
(part coastal) 
The midland talukas PONDA BICHOLIM QUEPEM 
The coastal talukas SALCETE MORMUGAO TISWADI (ILHAS)
BARDEZ 

the NORTH SOUTH divide notwithstanding.

There is much to see in the western ghat talukas and
the midland talukas,besides the coastal talukas (which
is predominantly a Catholic belt and rich in economic
resources.

But with the disparities in income levels ---
integrity honesty have dived steeply down the graph. 

Goa has earned the sobriquet of a party zone by the
rest of India like it not . The success in hosting
IFFI last November 2004, has brought in a huge  influx
of domestic tourist into the Shack trade both gaining 
seasonal employment SEPT to MARCH in tourist trade
activity.

To protect the tourist from unpleasant experiences we
have put up a travel advisory on our weblink and as
usual our 24 hrs HELPLINE is at your service.

But one word of caution, the whole administrative
system is corrupt right from immigration to
emmigration, the home department the police, rail
travel, inland transport, hotel shacks, visits to
places of interest including places of worship; 

Your legal consultants, medical consultants, real
estate developers could let you down.  Go in for
double opinion always as a rule. dont rush to sign a
deal get to learn the nitty gritty before you go for
the kill.

Then beware of making friends there are several
instances of foreigners making friends with Indians
only to be duped --- whether it is the charms of a
Kashmiri, the Rajasthani, the South Indian whoever---
they all look to Goa as their El Dorado and hence are
here to make a quick buck only ---they could play up
a sob story as an alibi surgical operations 
assistance for marriage of a family member  etc. 

They could even wine and dine you to win your
confidence and later suck your finances till you dry.
HELP does come but needs to be ascertained for it
often comes with a HARD PRICE TO PAY.

Then beware of real estate dealers their promise of
luxury villas, penthouses, are usually wishful
thinking.

Its with your hard earned money that they plan your
DREAM HOMES

Travel is a nightmare in Goa you could be fleeced
there are no receipts no metered billings for auto
travel.  Worst your public transport driver/rider 
could be a stranger to this place and could end up
taking you round in circles of course you pay for his
ignorance.

SOLID WASTE (garbage) and UNSAFE DRINKING WATERS  are
the latest health hazards.

WOMEN BEWARE GOA HAS now BECOME A MINI INDIA your
scantily dressed bodies could attract a criminal eye .

LASTLY STRAY DOGS ARE A POTENTIAL THREAT BEWARE YOU
COULD BE A VICTIM OF RABID DOG.

FINALLY DONT RELY ON THE SPOKEN WORD AND WHET THE
WRITTEN WORD WITH THE DOCTORS SCALPEL.

HAPPY HOLIDAYING

 
For SOUTH GOA PUBLIC INTEREST ACTION GROUP 
Regd No 171/GOA/2000 dt 12.12.2000
sd/- 
TERENCE MAZARELO
PRESIDENT (SGPIAG)
1st Flr Benlix Bldg Opp Fatima Convent Margao Goa
India
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weblink http://mumbai.sancharnet.in/manojnd
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[Goanet] The tragic legend of Dona Paula

2005-09-26 Thread Cecil Pinto
The column below, by me appeared in Goa Plus some time in January 2003 or 
thereabouts. I can't recall if I have posted it here before but Borg Costa 
did recently query about the legend of Dona Paula.


Cecil Pinto



Gather around me children, and hear this story of long ago times. The 
tragic legend of Dona Paula.


About 300 years ago, in Portuguese-Goa, there lived in the sleepy fishing 
village of Caranzalem (Konkani for happened in the car), in a small hut 
overlooking the sea,  a carpenter named Donath Figueiredo. Now Donath was 
no ordinary carpenter. He was a master craftsman. Portuguese nobility from 
far and wide used to come to him for his exquisite creations. He would make 
Double Beds with Storage and TV Cabinets of unimaginable splendour. 
Donath's skills were highly in demand and many are the Sofa-cum-Beds that 
were smuggled to Lisbon and Macau all the way from tiny Caranzalem 
Incidentally, around the same time, the Macau craftsmen developed the 
hideous Macau Chests, samples of which still remain unsold in antique 
furniture shops.


One Saturday night, as Donath was relaxing with his third peg of Caju Feni 
and waiting for the late night movie to start on Zee MGM, his mobile rang. 
Donald said Hello? A rich baritone voice came through Donath! It's me! 
Donath was immediately rigid. It was Dom Paulo da Cunha e South Manure, the 
landlord's son. Dom Paulo, what can I do for you?. Well for starters you 
can open the bloody door. I'm standing outside your house and your doorbell 
is not working.


Donath rushed to the door and opened it. There in all his nobility stood 
Dom Paulo. Handsome, elegant, charming. Dom Paulo entered Donath's humble 
quarters. Donath closed the door. And then they embraced each other 
passionately. Donna my love! sighed Paulo. Paula my sweetheart! sighed 
Donath. And they held each other tight and kissed for a long, long time. 
Much longer than Madonna and Brittney Spears. They were happy. They were 
gay. They were lovers.


Such a beautiful picture it made. A white skinned nobleman kissing a brown 
skinned commoner. But this picture of happiness was temporary. Donath's 
mobile rang again with the tune of Koi Mil Gaya. Hello! he said. Hello 
Donath! Ganpat here. Are we meeting tomorrow at the Campal Children's 
Park?. Naaah!, said Donath Those security guards give me the creeps. 
They seem to know, just by looking at us, what we are up to. And you know 
how I hate being questioned about these things Ganpat dear. Ouch!!.


Donath bit his own tongue and switched off his mobile, but it was too late. 
Dom Paulo had heard every word. So you're seeing Ganpat again!! You lying 
scheming low caste. I should have known!, wailed Dom Paulo loudly. Don't 
do that, my Paula! You know I have eyes only for you, Donath pleaded. But 
there was no stopping Dom Paulo who kept on wailing and tearing his hair. 
Suddenly Dom Paulo chanced upon a half-finished full size closet lying 
nearby. He ran into it, closed the doors shut from inside, and continued 
his blubbering.


Donath did not know what to do. Please come out Paula, he pleaded, 
Please come out of the closet!. From inside the closet came Dom Paulo's 
muffled voice No Donna! I cannot come out of the closet. What will people 
say? That a fine nobleman like me was rejected for that half-caste 
Ganpat!. Donath thought fast. Here was a chance to really show his 
remorse. Paula. I promise I will never talk to Ganpat again. Ever! In fact 
I'm throwing out my mobile right now. Saying that Donath picked up a small 
piece of wood and threw it into the sea. Hearing the plopping sound Dom 
Paulo came out of the closet. Are you out of your mind, Dom Paulo 
exclaimed, That's a GSM handset and does not belong to you until all 
instalments have been paid. Since I'm paying your instalments anyway 
they're going to come after me. Saying this Dom Paulo heroically jumped 
into the sea to rescue the cellphone.


Unfortunately Dom Paulo hit his head on a rock and died. Seeing his dead 
body, Donath went berserk and took a nearby chisel, slit his writs, and 
bled to death in the closet. The Portuguese consulate immediately gave then 
Portuguese Passports post-mortem, named the area Dona Paula and asked a 
German sculptor to install two statues in their memory. The German sculptor 
used himself and his wife as models, not realising that Dona and Paula were 
both males. Neither did the Goa Tourism Department which recently unleashed 
a advertising campaign that claimed 'Dona' was a noblewoman and 'Paul' was 
local man. How far they were from the truth.


===




[Goanet] Wanting more - By Ethel da Costa

2005-09-26 Thread Cecil Pinto

HEART TO HEART (Herald, SEPT 25)
BY ETHEL DA COSTA

Stories of people who want more

Of all the root causes for people feeling drained, the most widespread is 
probably selfishness, whether within themselves, in their relationships 
with others or in the world at large. It may also be the hardest to weed 
out. Problems such as arrogance, mistrust, anger or resentment can be 
addressed in a fairly straightforward fashion. But selfishness is often 
simply there - unnamed, unnoticed, yet so powerful and deep-seated that it 
shapes our entire outlook on life.


No matter how unique each person's search for peace may appear, a common 
thread ties them together. To a greater or lesser extent, everyone is on a 
journey towards wholeness. Some people say they are seeking peace of mind; 
others, peace of heart. Some are searching for fellowship and others for 
community. Some are looking for inner serenity; others, global harmony. 
Underneath, all of these quests are motivated by a sense of the 
fragmentation of life, and by the desire for it to be overcome.


Life is full of divisions: between the home and the workplace; the private 
and the public; the job and the leisure-time activity; the political, the 
professional and the personal. In itself, there is nothing wrong with this. 
Problems begin when these separate realms create contradictions and 
conflicts. Before long, inconsistency can become compromise, and after 
that, even hypocrisy.


A spiritual practitioner from Sweden I met at a social do once told me it 
was the compartmentalization of his life that set him searching for peace. 
He sensed a similar quest in my query. Playing several roles were taking 
its toll, because nothing connected the `role-playing' to a common goal, he 
explained. You must simply follow your heart, while making sure that the 
head understands what the heart must do, he advised.


I love my city. A few of us feel its pain as passionately one would feel a 
broken heart. It's a passionate confession of idealism that makes people 
want to do more than that is demanded of them. It is a call of duty and 
responsibility, not of politics, to contribute in the growth of a city that 
is steeped in history, victory, triumphs and failures. A city that has been 
victimized by politics. A city that has been promised much and ditched at 
the altar. A city that despite flooded streets, stinking garbage, life 
threatening malaria, double-speaking activists, pseudo leaders, insensitive 
planners and small thinking citizens divided by religion drunk politik who 
resort to violence and vandalism not debate, continues to hold her own, 
hold her head up. Panjim is a survivor. And so are those who believe in change.


Community has always been high on my agenda, ever since we participated to 
open Panjim's gardens and city scapes to music, art and flashbulbs. It has 
been sheer sweat and empty piggy banks, especially when an idea is new and 
people think you're crazy. But we are crazy! Great sanity exists in madness.
There have been naysayers aplenty. There have been detractors galore. There 
have been local critics and armchair philosophers who run down an idea even 
before you breathe life into it. Should I mention the dirty minds?


Come October onwards, community, culture, talent, media and social 
integration will bring alive music and community participation at the 
Mermaid Garden in a unique coming together of brands committed to community 
development. We have to change with the times. We have to think anew. We 
have to `think global, focus local.' We have to participate at public 
platforms where debates can be encouraged in a setting that is in tandem 
with Nature, commitment and social history. Same with art and the talent 
pool Goa is world renowned for which we must source with the help of the 
city's movers and shakers, and those who believe there is more to them than 
just their fat bank balances. A city thrives only if her intelligent people 
ask the right questions to the powers that be. A city grows when we 
encourage progressive thinking. It is about taking HIV to a public platform 
and encouraging people to discuss it. Talk to your children honestly about 
it. Build compassion into their bones. It is about the media taking an 
active role in debating issues, encouraging public opinion. A city blooms 
when her youth are as adapt at picking guitar chords as they are about 
picking the city's garbage or extending their talent to clean up our 
beaches. Enthusiasm and honesty can fuel many dreams. It keeps dreamers 
going. It is the same enthusiasm that saw our first highly successful 
rare-of-its-kind jazz festival at the Mermaid Garden two years ago, with 
the support of the then Panjim Municipal Council. Sure we were crazy. It 
was an idea that was born in an effort to bring the people of Panjim 
together through music, art and culture. It set the trend to many more 
successful garden events and yes, we hope many more to follow.


[Goanet] Culture flows like feni at Big Foot

2005-09-26 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dear Goan Netters,

The Goan village life is something to experience! It cannot be described in
words or depicted as paintings or photographs or even the movie talkies. To
Maendra Alvares goes the cridit of creating Ancestral Goa that brings back
nostalgia in a gush like hurricane Katrina that sweeps one off his feet.

On Sunday the 25th September, 2005, Big Foot kicked off the tourist season
with the dhol, tanso, ghumot, guitar and violin adding melody to the voices.
There was a bit of everything from Romta-mell that had tourists from
Mumbai stomping their feet and throwing money as at a 'mujra' dance or
'dance bar' shows [may be nostalgia for, alas, they are no more!] to dulpods
being sung by a really spirited guy.

The taverna had feni and the shiramche glass for the dhed peg or 90 ml
of bottled spirit. The kunbi house had a budkulo full of piping hot canji,
sukhi sungtam and khovantlem tor [rice canji with dried prawns and mango
slices in brine] that we had in the traditional 'cotti' or half coconut
shell. DaLima's Bakery  Cuisine was there with the poi, catri pao and
decorative bread besides the xacuti , sambarachi kodi and bebinca. I would
vouch for quality of the bread and the pulao. Of the rest, I have eaten
better versions. The chourico-pao [sausage bread] was excellent.

The handicrafts at Ancestral Goa have increased and their prices decreased.
I got a set of toothpicks with shell-embellished bases and a natural shell
holder for just Rs.60/-. It would still be a steal at Rs.100/- Till the end
of October there is an exhibition of children's paintings on Nature. Great
perspectives. I hope to interest Maendra in exhibiting the paintings at the
PLANT UTSAV at Panaji in November.

For urban school and college students, Non-resident Goans;heritage lovers
and tourists from anywhere, who want to know a little bit about everything
in Goa, there is nothing better that 'Ancestral Goa. One can look up the
details at www.ancestralgoa.com. If you are passing near Loutolim, look out
for 'Big Foot' signboards even if 'Ancestral Goa' is what you want to see!
Ph.2777034 in case you are lost in the woods.

Viva Goa.
Miguel






[Goanet] Formation of Vishwa Konkani Parishad (World Konkani Council)

2005-09-26 Thread Ancy S. D'Souza Paladka
Formation of Vishwa Konkani Parishad (World Konkani Council)

Karnataka Konkani Writers Forum (Regd) organised a programme on the
subject Unity in Diversity. 49 Veterian Konkani activist and noted
Konkani writers from Maharashtra, Goa, Karnataka and Kerala were
present.
The programme was held on September 11, 2005 at Sandesh, Mangalore.

Goan Konkani Theatrist Wilson Wilmex Mazarello, Noted Konkani writer
of Mangalore Dr. Edward L. Nazareth and the poet Ancy Paladka of
Mumbai presented papers on the Konkani situation at their respective
regions. Konkani Linguist Dr. Pratap Naik Goa and Mandd Sobhann fame
Konkani artist Eric Ozario Mangalore spoke on the organised working
for Konkani in order to promote it to the future generation. Noted
Konkani novelist Dolphy Cascia moderated both the sessions.

As there is not even a single Konkani body that works at the global
level to promote Konkani a strong need was felt to have a
international body to work for the cause of Konkani. Then an adhoc
committee was formed to initiate the formation of the global body. The
committee met on September 18, 2005 and suggested that the global body
would be called as Vishwa Konkani Parishad or World Konkani Council.
It also elected Mr. Eric Ozario Karnataka as President and Mr.
Tomazinho Cardozo Goa as secretary.

The other members of the Adhoc Committee are -
Dr. Pratap Naik, Goa;  Udayakant Anvekar, Karwar; Ancy Paladka,
Mumbai; Hemacharya, Dubai; Gladys Rego, Mangalore; Mohammed Hussain,
Bhatkal, Ullas Buyão, Goa; Stephen Quadras, Mangalore; Prabhakar
Tendulkar, Goa; Lilly Miranda, Mangalore; Narayan Kharvi, Kundapur; 
Vally Vogga, Mysore; Raju Kumble, Kerala; Dr. Edward L. Nazareth,
Mangalore; Premanand Lotlikar, Goa.

The Adhoc committee is working on affiliating all Konkani
organisations under one banner and to form a democratic organisation.

All Konkani organisations all over the world are hereby requested to
register their names at Vishwa Konkani Parishad. You may send your
requisition through email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by post
at Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr, Alto Porvorim , Goa - 403 521,
INDIA. Tel: 0832-2415857, 2415864
The adhoc committee will send the draft constitution of Vishwa Konkani
Parishad to all Konkani Organisations world over and invite them to
the first general body session that would be held in December 2005 at
Mangalore.

For more details please click
http://www.vishwakonkaniparishad.com

For the photographs please click
http://ancy.fotopic.net/c704724.html

Report by Ancy Paladka



Re: [Goanet] Still no native Indian Catholic Saint

2005-09-26 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo

--- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sept. 25, 2005
 Why? Because the
 documentation and miracles submitted to Rome were
 annulled and rejected more than once on account
 of the Church’s earlier racial prejudice.
 

Further to my earlier email - apologies to George if
it came out too strong.

However, an Italian piece (if you can understand it):

Il primo indiano ad essere innalzato alla gloria degli
altari; José Vaz nacque a Benaulim (Goa) allora
possedimento portoghese dell’India sulla costa del
Malabar, il 21 aprile 1651. 
...

And a French one (almost a literal translation of the
above):

José Vaz, dont les parents étaient portugais, naquit à
Benaulim, à Goa, sur la côte du Malabar, — alors
possession portugaise —,le 21 avril 1651.
...

In Konkani, he is referred to as Padr Jose Vaz. 

He was born on Portuguese territory, not on British
territory. So why anglicise his first name? How does
Naik fit in ? 

Remove the racist blinkers, PLEASE!

Cheers,

Gabriel.

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Re: [Goanet] Still no native Indian Catholic Saint

2005-09-26 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo

--- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Joseph Naik Vaz Institute
 Berkeley, California
 

Why is it called Joseph Naik Vaz Institute instead
of Instituto Pe. José Vaz ? Perhaps you might get
recognition faster if you call the man by his true
name rather than by his what ought to have been acc
to George name. 

Cheers,

Gabriel de Figueiredo.
Melbourne.



 
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[Goanet] Remote Controlling in Politics

2005-09-26 Thread Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha
The following is reproduced from today's (Sept. 25) Daily Goa News Clips
of Joel D'Souza:

«Remote Controlling in Politics
«By Tomazinho Cardozo
«Yet another example of the influence of the RSS or VHP can be observed till
date at the renovated Kala «Academy complex. Opposite the canteen there is a
small meeting room. In that meeting room there used to be a «photograph of a
great cultural personality from the minority community of Goa hung on the
wall. In the guise «of the renovation, the photograph was removed and a
carved picture of a God is placed instead. So also on the «wall facing the
entrance of the DMK auditorium a religious symbol is painted and continues
to be there till «date. (Panorama-NT)».

I hope that the photograph which was removed is not that of the man whose
memory is (or was) every year recalled and honoured on August 20 by the Kala
Academy as that of Founder, i.e. Maestro Antonio de Figueiredo. August 20
was (still is?) celebrated as Founder's Day. In such a case it would be a
great insult to the Maestro who had founded the Academia de Musica de Goa
which is now the Western Music wing of the Kala Academy. Such an insult
cannot be tolerated, and I hope that a movement can and will be built for
the reinstatement of that photograph. - Also, all the religious symbols have
to be removed - they cannot be admitted in a secular cultural organ like KA.

Over to you, Tomazinho.

Jorge






Re: [Goanet] Re: World Goa Day in Melbourne ignites Cultural Heritage ofYore

2005-09-26 Thread Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha
From: Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org
on  Sunday, September 25, 2005 3:20 AM



 On Sat Sep 24, 2005 Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha wrote:

  kindly note that what happened (more than) 18 years ago, not on August
20
  but on February 4, was the passing of the Official Language Act by
  the Legislative Assembly of the then Union Territory of Goa, Daman and
Diu
  according to Konkani the status of the sole official language of Goa.

 Jorge,

 That would be February 4, 1987 ?? Would you know the dates (locations) of
the
 Konkani agitation of 1986 and the violence that ensued ??

 Thanks - Bosco


Yes, Bosco, the Language Act was passed on February 4, 1987, paving the way
for Goa to be separated from Daman and Diu and declared a state on May 30 of
the same year. As regards the dates and locations of the Konkani agitation
of 1986, I am afraid I don't know them.

Jorge






[Goanet] Mopa v/s Roads

2005-09-26 Thread borg costa
To all the Goan montri's.

We understand that the Mopa airport is constructed to
make your pocket full and not for the benefit of
goans.

Don't waste money on Mopa airport. Stop constructing
the Mopa airport  upgrade the Dabolim airport,
Construct / repair the roads  the goans will be
happy. We all goans need good roads.

cheersss

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[Goanet] Re: Still no native Indian Catholic Saint (Mario Goveia)

2005-09-26 Thread Eugene Correia
Has this subject come here before?

Isn't an East Indian monk from Bassein, Gonzalo, 
among the 13 matrys of Japan?

Eugene



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Re: [Goanet] KHUIM MEVOTH MHOJEM BHURGUEPONN? ....Adlean Chalu...Tisro Bhag

2005-09-26 Thread Bernado Colaco


 
 Amchem Goem Swatantre zalea uprant, dissa uzvadim
 chorio anik krimi zaunk
 lagleo, aiz tum fudlem dhar ugtem sodun fatlean
 kiteim kam korta zalear hea
 vaten chor tujem ghor khalli kortat, anik hea kallar


Goem swatantre zalem? Dolhe bondhe korum boroi naka. 

B. Colaço



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[Goanet] More Konkani VCDs

2005-09-26 Thread JoeGoaUk

CIRCUS by Comedian Peter D Costa  
(A collection of songs  Jokes)  Rs. 150

HO AMCHO BHAVART by Fr. Nevil Gracias  Rs.199

EK DIS
Film Songs from the Film 'ek dis' Audio/Vidio (2 in 1) Rs.60

Coming soon...

Duets of C Alvares VCD

EK DIS

Ordem Chador

Padri

Argam Tuka Dhonia  - by Tony Dias




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For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...)
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[Goanet] Wish list for a better quality of life in Goa /Melinda Coutinho Powell

2005-09-26 Thread melinda Powell
Philip Thomas wrote:

Everything else remaining the same, here are a few things I would personally
like to  see get better in Goa:

1. Electricity supply that is 24x7 and in dire emergencies gets restored in
a few hours.
Would others like to share their thoughts? :)



_
Hi all,

To enhance the quality of life here, it would be nice to have

1)local goan  English newpapers without spelling and grammatical errors

2)garbage disposal facilites

3)BSNL broadband internet facilities in more towns and villages ( dial up
facilties at sancharnet is the pits)

 Cheers,

Melinda




Re: [Goanet] Still no native Indian Catholic Saint

2005-09-26 Thread Lawrence Rodrigues
  It seems to us that Goan Catholics have little or no influence in
Rome and in the churches and dioceses they serve. It seems to us that
those Catholic churches such as the Portuguese Church and dioceses
around the world that Goan Catholics have faithfully served could and
should petition the Vatican to be as flexible in its rules for a Goan
and other Indian saints as it has for those of other communities and
countries. It amazes many of us that while the Catholic Church has
bent its rules to give saints to other nations, she continues to
withold from India, the mother of great religions and land of saints,
the honor of having a single fully native Indian Catholic saint.  It
amazes us that the churches around the world that benefit from the
service of Indian Catholics are silent on this lack of Indian Catholic
saints.   JNVI


WHY do we need a *native* Indian Catholic saint?

Will having *our very own saint* enable us to enjoy:


1. Electricity supply that is 24x7 and in dire emergencies gets restored in
a few hours.

2. Cable TV that is steady and stable (i.e. no sudden switching of channels,
hijacking of one channel by another, channels going on and off like a
Christmas tree's lights etc)

3. A newspaper guy who can deliver a Mumbai paper latest by noon and not
6:00 in the evening and sometimes the next day!

4. Computer guys who have every intention of keeping their home service
appointments.

5. Streets, roads, highways (and sidewalks) that are free of potholes.

6. A beach that is free of litter and not black.

7. A public library that is systematically run  and has an uptodate
collection of books, periodicals and papers.

8. Long distance connectivity by bus, train or plane that is cheap and
cheerful and available on demand.

9. At least one more petrol station where one can get air pressure checked
automatically and not manually.

10. A riverside road in town that is not a micromini roller coaster with
umpteen bumps along the way.?


If yes, why wait for a *firangi* in Rome to declare XYZ as *our very
own saint*?  Let's go ahead and declare to the world that XYZ is
henceforth *our very own* native Indian Catholic saint.


Lawrence