[Goanet] VM de MALAR ASKS THE RIGHT QUESTION BUT....
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- In today's HERALD VM de Malar writes a timely article titled Goa's crowded skies. He talks about the dizzying increase of domestic scheduled airlines flying into Dabolim and finding there's no end in sight as the vast railway clientele is switching to aeroplanes. Hence he rightly asks: Can we physically handle all the traffic headed our way? concluding immediately No. Dabolim is already inadequate. His solution: We need a better alternative... we probably do need Mopa. Imho, VM needed a better word i.e addition instead of alternative. Why is he writing off Dabolim? I sincerely hope he doesnt have a shut down of civilian traffic at Dabolim in mind. That would indeed be an unmitigated disaster for Goa. He seems to be way off the mark as far as the airport issue is concerned in this particular respect.
[Goanet] Suresh Amoncar's Konkanni Jnaneshwari rendition
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Mr. Suresh Gundu Amoncar of Dattawadi Mhapsa had the rapt attention of the audience at the release function of the Konkanni rendition of the magnum opus Sant Jnaneshwar's Jnaneshwari at the Kala Academy today. The function was organised by GEETA PRASAR: Friends of Jnaneshwari Publication Committee, chaired by Mr. Surendra Sirsat, Principal of DM's PVS Sarojini Kushe HS School, Assagao, former MLA of Mhapsa and Ex-Speaker of Goa Legislative Assembly. Ms.Amita Nayak Salatry, former teacher and presently TV talk-show anchor and Konkani film personality is the Secretary. A Souvenir entitled Shri Jnaneshwar- Shri Jnaneshwari edited by Mr.Jagdish Wagh, former Bureau Chief of UNI in Goa and well-known newspaper columnist, was also released on the occasion. The galaxy of well-known names present on the occasion included Rev. Allwyn Barreto, the new Bishop of Sindhudurg and former student of New Goa High School [ now renamed as Gundu S.Amoncar Vidya Mandir ], Mhapsa, Alban Couto IAS [Retd], Dr. Tanaji Halarkar, former editor of the Konkani Encyclopaedia, Mr. Ravindra Kelekar and the sister of Baki Bab Borcar. On stage was the Mr.Digambar Kamat, Minister for Power, as the President of the function, Mr. Pundalik Naik, Chairman of Goa Konkani Academy as Chief Guest[ in lieu of CM Mr.Pratapsingh Raoji Rane, who was away in Delhi], Dr. Kiran Budkuley to deliver an introduction to the Jnaneshwari,Mr. Ashok Kamat of Pune University ,Ms. Sudha Suresh Amoncar and Ms. Amita Salatry. Dr.Kiran Budkuley, a former student of Mr.Suresh Amoncar, compared the translation of the Jnaneshwari from the ancient Prakrit Marathi [in Modi script?] to the current Konkani language to the emptying of the ocean into a well. Sant Jnaneshwar wrote the Jnaneshwari when Marathi was still a nascent language 750 years ago. He wanted the wisdom of the Bhagwad Geeta [written exclusively in Sanskrit] to be available in Marathi, the common man's language in his area, Maharashtra. He differed in opinion with two concepts in the Geeta in 1. Freedom of Will and 2. Knowledge of the contemproary world. The difference is clear in the commentary on the Geeta that the Jnaneshwari inevitably is. Contrary to the Geeta, Jnaneshwar beleives that Will can overcome destiny. It challenges one to be revolutionary, yet humble; knowledgeable and yet open to other points of view. Mr. Pundalik Naik, President of GKA, stated that we know the rosall ponos [juicy jackfruit] and the rosant'le fov [pounded rice cooked in coconut milk] served at Diwali. Relishing the rosall konkani Jnaneshwari should come as simply to us in Goa. The word for 'juicy' normally used in Konkani is rasall but Suresh-bab has used literary licence to make in rosall. It is an intentional change which we need to appreciate, he said. An obviously emotional Mr.Suresh Amoncar spoke as the author of the Jnaneshwari who was moved to do so by his destiny. When such a magnum opus sees the light of day, emotion is but a natural upswell in the human chest. He said that the rendition was not an effort just to build a bridge between two regional languages, Marathi and Konkani, but to bridge the thoughts and hearts of the people who knew these languages. Today, Konkani readers will read an original work from Marathi. Tomorrow, Marathi readers will be able to understand Konkani better. What better thoughts than these when there is a war between the protagnists of the two scripts of just one language, Konkani?? Mr. Suresh Amoncar remembered his parents for the values they inculcated in him through his childhood and said that the books that his father,Gundu [who founded the school known as Amoncar's even when it was officially the New Goa High School!],gave him were his greatest wealth. Mukhesh Thali, formerly a Researcher at the Konkani Encyclopaedia section of the Goa University and now an Executive of the All India Radio, ably compered the function. For me it was an evening with friends, seniors and role models. I have been associated with Dr.Tanaji Halarnkar and Mukesh Thali for the Konkani Encyclo paedia, which has a few enties submitted by me on things agricultural. Mr. Suresh Amoncar and Ms Sudha Amoncar are almost family to me. So is Ms.Amita Salatry. Mr.Suresh Amoncar's classmate and my mentor in Agriculture , Dr.Heman Y. Karapurkar was with me, too. I have been associated with Mr.Jagdish Wagh in the Plant and Press kingdoms for long. The audience was full of known faces from my
[Goanet] Fr. John CORREIA AFONSO rests with the LORD
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- 08.11 at 08.50 Dear Friends Early today, I got this letter from my cousin Tony Correia Afonso , conveying to us the sad news of the death of his brother John C.A. His brilliant career as a Jesuit and as a Historian mut be known to you. All the same I give below his biodata, even though it it is Portuguese: FernandodoRego. Nasceu na aldeia de Benaulim(Salcete-GOA) aos 15 de julho de 1924,sendo filho do Prof. Francisco Correia Afonso e d. Luzia de Heredia.Feitos os estudos primarios na Escola de Benaulim, continuou no St. Xavier's High School de Bombaim,seguido dos Cursos Universitarios no St. Xavier's College fazendo a sua licenciatura em Histsria e Sociologia, seguida do Mestrado em Economia e Sociologia,com o primio Sir Wedderburn Prizeman e a bolsa Sir Pherozeshah Mehta Research para o seu Doutoramento em Histsria Indiana, mais tarde publicada pela Universidade de Bombaim. Entrou depois na Companhia de Jesus, licenciou-se em Filosofia no Seminario Papal de Kandy ( Ceilao) ,seguido dos estudos teolsgicos no Colegio Maximo de SanCugat (Barcelona) onde foi ordenado presbitero em 25 de julho de 1957.Em 1958, concluiu os seus estudos no Weston College em Massachussets,com licenciatura em teologia. De 1963-65 foi Provincial da Companhia de Jesus em Bombaim e Reitor do St. Xavier's College.Em 1967-70, o Pe,Correia Afonso foi o primeiro nao- Europeu a ocupar o cargo de Secretario do Geral em Roma, tendo Sco Francisco Xavier sido o primeiro quando Santo Inacio fundou a Companhia em Paris. Logo em 1970-75,era novamente chamado ` Roma como Assistente ( para a India) do Geral da Companhia. Antes de seguir para Roma, foi leitor das Universidades de Dharwar e do St. Xavier's College,visiting Lecturer em Histsria e Filosofia Indiana na Universidade de Boston , etc. Finalmente, regressado a India em 1975, foi outra vez Reitor do St. Xaviers College de Bombaim e Director do Heras Institute of Indian Culture and History do mesmo College. O pe. Correia Afonso foi sscio da Royal Asiatic Society,da Academia de Historia de Portugal,da Indian Historical Records Comission,da Association for Asian Studies e do Internacional Congress of Orientalists Em 1976,apss o estabecimento de um govjrno democratico em Portugal e do estabelecimento das relagues politicas entre esse pais e a India, o pe. Correia Afonso iniciou a sirie dos SEMINARIOS DA HISTSRIA INDO -PORTUGUESA. O primeiro realizou-se em Goa. Seguiram-se-lhe outros cada 2-3 anos em Lisboa, Goa, Macau, Angra do Heroismo,e Baia(Brasil). Comemorando o 25o aniversario do seu inmcio o prsximo Seminario realiza-se em Goa em setembro de 2003. Devido aos seus incansaveis esforgos em prol destes Seminarios, Portugal galardoou-o com a Ordem do Principe Henrique, o Navegador que lhe foi entregue pessoalmente pelo Presidente Mario Soares quando da sua visita oficial ` India em 1994. A sua vasta contribuigbo bibliografica conta entre os trabalhos mais notaveis os Jesuit Letters and Indian History, Letters from the Moghul Court. The Ignatian Vision of India ,' The Jesuits in India and Intrepid Itinerant, Enrique Heras,historiador de la India,The soul of Modern India, Indian Historical Records in Lisbon, Manuel Godinho's alternatives to the Carreira da Indiaetc.alim de inzmeros artigos em revistas da Historia. FernandodoRego 143-Fontainhas.Pangim 403.001. GOA. INDIA TEL:222.6353. -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 06:41:04 +0530 Subject: Dear family friends, It is with deep sorrow that we regret to inform you that our dear brother Fr.John,S.J. passed away yesterday at the Jesuit Nursing Home, Vinayalaya, Andheri (East), Mumbai after a long illness. He was 81 years old and will be greatly missed by all of us. May his soul rest in eternal peace! Love, ---Tony Marina.
[Goanet] Degradable plastic bags / Melinda Coutinho Powell
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Valerie Rodrigues wrote: CO-OP BAGS BRITAIN'S FIRST 100% DEGRADABLE PLASTIC CARRIER The Co-op is launching Britain's first 100% degradable plastic carrier bag today (Monday 2 September), to help reduce landfill waste. Although the Co-op bags are 100% degradable, they are just as strong as non-degradable carrier bags and can still be reused. Hi Valerie, That was an interesting bit of news.I dont know how effective these bags are,but it is nice to know that solutions are being sought to fight the plastic menace. Here in Goa, we are a long way from fancy technology but what we need to change is our mindset and our attitude. Two days ago,many interesting points came up at the GOACAN Waste Managementworkshop in Margao.There were vibrant group discussions and attitudes were challenged.Localised action plans,individual and group intiatives were chalked out and many who attended the workshop decided to go home and start garbage Segregation At Source. What was really nice to see was attendance and participation - the hall at the BPS Club was full.It was a mixed audience of Doctors,teachers,panchayat representatives,housewives ,business folk etc(I also spotted a few goanetters).Awarenes is slowly increasing and people are realising that each one has a civic responsibility to protect the environment and keep Goa garbage free.A Solidarity March in Margao, A short session to teach maids to segregate garbage has been planned. If we follow the Each One Teach One policy,slowly this cleanliness movement will spread all Goa. Cheers to a Cleaner,greener Goa.
Re: [Goanet] Re: Fists of Freedom - Rosa Parks
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mervyn, I don't know to explain this to someone like you who is so poorly informed about the USA, but people here are not put into jail based on their percentage of the population, but on being convicted of a crime. Mario, In the past twelve months, I have been to eighteen states in the US. I have dipped my big toe in the Pacific Ocean, the Mississippi and the Atlantic Ocean. I make it a point to keep up to speed with what is going on in the US, as I have large investments there. Secondly, I am aware that people are jailed upon conviction of a crime. I am also aware that prisoners are executed by the US govt and then it is found that they were innocent of the crime they were convicted of. It is an example of your unfamiliarity with the USA that you can say that inner city schools, ...the schools do not get funding from local, state and federal governments. Are you suggesting that inner city public schools in the USA are privately funded? Clearly, I am not. I also can not fathom where you got that idea from. While these inner city schools are fairing poorly, it has nothing to do with funding, and everything to do with liberal attitudes prevalent at these schools, what President Bush calls, The soft bigotry of low expectations. He has imposed stringent standards on all public schools over the last 4 years, and has threatened to close those that do not perform up to standards. The above is the lamest excuse I have seen on Goanet. The NAACP is the biggest culprit in The soft bigotry of low expectations for inner city schools. They demand more and more funding but obstruct any attempts to improve the quality of the teaching. IMHO, the NAACP is staffed by people who are dedicated to their cause. I was able to graduate from college only because of the efforts of the NAACP. For example, the worst public school system in the country is in NAACP influenced Washington, DC, which spends over $10,000 perstudent per year. This compares with one third of that cost at any decent Catholic school, which provide high quality education. It beats me why any American would claim that his nations capital has the worst public school system. I think Alabama and Mississippi have far worse systems. I have lived and worked in DC. It is not called district of Columbia for no reason. Drug dealers operate in the hallways of some public schools. The money the school districts require is not for education but for the security of the pupils. Principals ARE concerned about the physical safety of their pupils. As far as catholic schools are concerned, they can pick and choose which students they want and also which students to expel. There are no prizes for guessing which schools these expelled students wind up. I have already demonstrated above that you know very little about what is going on in the USA with public schools, regarding funding or anything else. Your information seems to be coming from the same people who are responsible for the poorest performers among the schools in the USA. You have demonstrated nothing. My output here comes from my experiences in studying/teaching/living in Alabama and the Washington DC area. Besides, hurling insults and spreading misinformation does not substitute for the facts. Hurling insults? Spreading misinformation? I don't understand what you are talking about, Mario. Mervyn3.0 Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
RE: [Goanet] Demise: fr. John Correia-Afonso,S.J.
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- My dear Tony, Marina and family, Please accept our deepest condolences on death of Fr. John. Howver, after such a glorious emminent career he leaves us all with only the happiest memortes. Although I met him just twice I was one of his fortmidable legion admireres. We will joim them all praying he enjoys his well earned rest. Eva, Alfred and family. It is with deep sorrow that we announce the sad demise of our brother Fr.John,former Principal of St.Xavier's College, Provincial Secretary-General of the Society of Jesus, which occurred in Bombay on 7th.Nov.2005, after a long illness. He was 81 years old. May his soul rest in eternal peace! ---Tony, Marina and family.
[Goanet] Demise: fr. John Correia-Afonso,S.J.
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- It is with deep sorrow that we announce the sad demise of our brother Fr.John,former Principal of St.Xavier's College, Provincial Secretary-General of the Society of Jesus, which occurred in Bombay on 7th.Nov.2005, after a long illness. He was 81 years old. May his soul rest in eternal peace! ---Tony, Marina and family. This message was sent using NWebmail, BSNL's Webmail Program
Re: [Goanet] Re: amazing Goa corrections 2
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- de Sequeira, Eric, AT From: eric pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: amazing Goa corrections 2 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 07:03:17 -0800 (PST) -- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Hello Jose, I think they favour 'de Siqueira', last week his granddaughter Aisha, her mother Maureen and i ate dinner in Kannatakat, also present with us - Barbara McGrath, a great granddaughter of V.Paul D'Souza ( Sole Stockist of Dynamite !! ). Aisha made the Wall Street Journal this year, named a Morgan Stanley Managing Director. eric. --- jose colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | | | | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | | | | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- From: Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only a minor correction to the above: The name of the Goan pioneer of Christian art ... is not Agnelo da Fonseca but Angelo da Fonseca (ANGelo, not AGNelo). and this one from me: re: Who led the United Goans Party during the historic Opinion Poll of 1967? Dr Jace Sequeira (Panjim) It must be a typo .. Jack not Jace i.e. Dr Jack Sequeira _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Re: Irrelevant topics, and Goans and African Americans.........................
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- --- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Mario to refer to socialist meccas in Europe indicates that he hasn't got a clue how capitalist are the countries he refers to. Mario responds: Cornel, Only a committed socialist like yourself would consider Holland and France to be capitalist countries. If they were they wouldn't experience the economic stagnation they are experiencing.
[Goanet] JAIL BHARO ANDOLAN PLANNED TO DEFEAT TCP ORDINANCE
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- The Convenor of the Santa Cruz Constituency Citizens Committee Ms Victoria Fernandes, INC MLA (Santa Cruz and Deputy Speaker of the Goa Legislative Assembly has at a press conference this morning at Hotel Manvin Panaji announced a jail bharo ANDOLAN on 8th November, 2005 at 1400 hrs IST from the Panaji Steamer Jetty just near the Old Secretariat Adil Shah Palace demanding a) withdrawal of the controversial Town and Country Planning ordinance of 29th September, 2005 b)withdrawal of revenue villages from Tiswadi and Bardez taluka from the Planning areas under North Goa Planning Development Authority and c) withdrawal of all PDA's also from Municipalities as demanded by several other NGO's and citizen groups opposing the ordinance and the PDA's The plan of action which is week long will see similar peaceful protests from villagers of the revenue villages affected and also at Margao and Mapusa. While the ground swell is clearly against the political establishment what is now being viewed with great interest is whether the Minister of Town Country Planning's proposal in the form of the ordinance will remain on the statute books or the voice of veteran politician Ms Victoria Fernandes will prevail. There are rumours doing the round that MLA Margao Mr Digamber Kamat who was the number 2 in the BJP has clearly fallen out of grace with most of the politicians in the Indian National Congress following his insistence on the assurance before quiting to be given the plum posting of Deputy Chief Ministership. The Nationalist Congress Party Mr Francisco Micky Pacheco Minister for Agriculture and Animal Husbandary is clearly upset with the attitude of CM Mr Pratapsing Raoji Rane over slow movement of files, which makes him non functional in the discharge of his normal duties. There is a finger pointing at Mr Radharao Gracias according to some sources as being the master mind behind the drafting of the contents of the ordinance at the behest of Mr Monserrate apparently to gain a clout for seats for the United Goans Democratic Party. There is also talk that the Nationalist Congress Party of Dr Wilfred A D Souza will be trying to clobber a better foothold in the State by engineering defections or ensuring the collapse of the Goa Government. CM Mr Rane has however maintained a no nonsense attitude and warned his partymen of imminent dissolution of the Assembly a move which did not go well with the INC MLA's who have tasted power after nearly four and half years. From 24 October 2000 to 4th February 2005 they were out in the cold nearly with empty coffers. But a new lease of life came about thereafter and more specifically after Presidents rule ended on 7th June 2005 when the present coalition government was ushered in. One school of thought among INC partyment is that the new delimitation will come to effect in 2007 and therefore one way for ensuring elections in the existing constituencies will be by holding the election well before the Budget session in February 2006. But with the IFFI near on 24.11.2005 upto 4.12 .2005 and Ms Victoria Fernandes hell bent on the agitation, incidentally she had also addressed a memoradum on the ill effects of the ordinance to the President of India during his special addresss to the Goa Legislative Assembly, there is one certainity that the INC will have to silence Ms Fernandes or settle her demands. Incidentally with the delimitation of wards of the Corporation of City of Panaji to 30 wards and most of the 16 wards coming in Taleigao Assembly Constituency , 12 in Panaji Assembly Constituency and just two wards in the Sanata Cruz Assembly Constituency there is little doubt that Mr Atnasio Babush Monserrate can have a clout on both the CCP and the Taleigao Assembly Constituency if he secures and simple majority of 16 seats only of Taleigao Constituency. This probabilty has been noted by many and therefore the ordinance which will reduced the Regional Plan of 2011 which is unfortunately not notified even after over two months since the Draft was put up for public suggestions clearly indicates the the TCP Minister or the Department and not the Municipalities or Panchayats will have the decision making power in the develoment activities which is envisaged following the 73rd and 74th Constitutional amendment in 1992. What is further surprising that there is more than the eye can see to the ordinance is clear from the fact while the the Parrikar government had
[Goanet] II - Chandneachi Rati, Maddamche Savllek...
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- CHANDNEACHE RATI, MADDAMCHE SAULLEK ..SOBIT MANDDAR HATANT GALUN HAT, NACHUMIEA-GAUVIA GUMTTACHEA MODHUR TALAR.. I have just sung the song for you. Now, you please name the singer. Can you ?? (this was also played on Akasvanni Ponnje Kendr in 1970s 80s) [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Fists of Freedom and Goa
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- --- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Goa, the new generation of tomorrow's outcaste is growing everyday with the school dropouts due to perhaps a loss of the value system even though ther is no lack of opportunities and / or funding. Kind Regards, GL Mario adds: Wouldn't it be a nice achievement for Dalits in Goa and India to some day be able to report in an Indian census that 76% of them are either middle-income or upper income?
[Goanet] GHOR BANDLEM GHORABO MODLO
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Kuwait Goans Association: Presents ever-green Ophelia Tragedy Queen of Konkani Stage in Rosary Fernss family drama Ghor Bandlem Ghorabo Modlo on 11th August 2006 along with selected artists from Goa, Mumbai Kuwait. Venue will be announced shortly, watch out for further details Best wishes to all. Sanny Vaz Kuwait Sanny De Quepem. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet] article
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Hi, Fredrick,If u find something interesting in my article,do forward it to all those whom you know or u can publish it on your site. A Sailors Dilema Great sacrifices of some great, poor, people who in reality doesnt need themselves any publicity are sometimes often purposely forgotten, thats life, it goes on and people like me has to take it as it comes. Look forward, back, left or right, its all water, salt water, up theres sky, and during night, looking at the stars, they try to recollect the sweet memories of their life and I just dream about my mothers Xitt-Koddi (rice-curry), one must be wandering what I m talking about, its about sailors, who according to me are known for great sacrifices. We, the sailors are thousands of miles away from our families, some of us has built some nice, posh bungalows back home but in reality most years of our life we stay at sea, in houses made of iron and in may case, I really miss drinking the water from my baim (well) which is just in front of my house, thats life, life of a sailor. In my seven years of experience at sea, I have come across many talented, qualified, youngsters who were forced to work at sea because they were neglected back home, they had the required qualification, talent, but they didnt had money and political background to buy the kind of job they wanted and thats the reason why some of them were forced to work as cooks and butlers at sea. I have witnessed sailors, specially married ones, sitting in their cabins in front of the photograph of their families for hours and thinking of them, really its very sad, but what to do? Its life, life of a sailor. Theres a great say, no money, no honey and nowadays things are going on as per this say, people are been judged on the basis of money and not qualification, talent or behaviour. It was really ridiculous when I heard from my colleague that after 3 months staying with his wife and only child back home his wife started to ask him, when you are leaving back to sea? Thats life, life of a sailor, everybody needs to live a good life, but very few goan wives of sailors realises about the great sacrifices of their husbands. This still doesnt affects me as I m still a bachelor. What a poor destiny of a sailor? Its festive time back home, our families celebrates, but we struggle, we likes to shake hands with them, hug them, kiss them, but they are miles away, we try to call them, its not connecting, thats life, life of a sailor. Life is really not easy, we cannot be with our family when they need us the most, sometimes even cannot pay last respect to the ones who brought us in this world, and its only God, the creator looks after us. They play with huge waves, they face rolling and pitching, beginners even vomit blood, only to give a good life to their families. On the present ship, a 50 year old bosun told me that, our wives wants us to be understanding but their never try to understand us and although I m still a bachelor, I do accept him. For a sailor, a ship is a means of livelihood for more people ashore than aboard. Only a sailor can say something about a sailor and thats what I m doing. Finally in my case, after struggling in the hot sun for hours, I m not allowed to drink a cold beer as the ship is alcohol free, but the gas fumes from one of the cargo tanks already intoxicated me. I ve to accept it at this present moment because I ve got no other option and sometimes I feel I m lucky to be at sea, because my Goa,the one time very beautiful state, is presently fully corrupted, polluted, people like me are neglected and I feel the seas are still clean. Joel Morais P.O.Cuncolim, Bencleamvaddo, Salcette-Goa. Pin-403703. Tel-0832 2764094 Presently on the Senior Merchant Navy Officers Course at Fleetwood Nautical Campus,Lancashire, England. My Address in England, 11,Windsor Place, Fleetwood, FY 7 6HQ, Lancashire, England. Tel-0044 7886544419 Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
[Goanet] Re:Draconian Act
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Dear Goanetters, Apart from the activists and the intellectuals there seems to be very little reaction on this forum and various other fora to the recent Town and Country Planning Ordinance passed by the Government. While there is a heated discussion among the participants on Mopa, Dabolim ,Romi etc , there seems to be little interest about the deviousness of the current administration to convert our fields into housing colonies and our beaches into resorts. It would appear that the master plan would be to turn Goa into a huge Calangute-Baga-Candolim strip. There also appears to be a deafening silence in the press, political parties and the chattering class. The only notable opponents to date apart from the NGO,s is the Santa Cruz MLA -an awowed Babush Monserrat foe and the diocesian center for peace and social justice. The activists feel that the legal nature of the ordinance has confused the lay person into acceptance. I think that would be too charitable. Everyone of us secretly hopes that 'someone'' will put to better (profitable)use our fields which have been lying fallow. A lot of us pay just lip service to a Green and Clean Goa and the Ranes and the Parrikars know it!! And a lot of us well meaning Goans will hope that someone else -not me will file a PIL and the problem will go away. In the mean time another village will be úrbanised' and garbage will continue to be dumped on our hillsides and in our rivers. Dr.Pascal
[Goanet] Re: (Goanet) Uday Bhembre's Road to Hell - V
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Re: UDAY BHEMBRE's ROAD MAP TO HELL by Godfrey Gonsalves Oops! I regret the typographical errors which cropped in my earlier installments. So here I present the corrected statements: (1) The books in Roman script were used by the missionaries upto 1684 (rpt. 1684 NOT 1984) when Konkani was banned even from being spoken. It is also relevant to point out here that no native Goan anywhere ever published any Konkani literary work in the Roman script before 1890 (rpt. 1890 NOT 1990). It was only when the Portuguese Government banned the use of the local script for official documents that Fr. Stephens transliterated his books into Roman script and got them ready for printing. His Doutrina Christam was printed posthumously in 1622 (rpt. 1622 NOT 1922); This SEVENTEENTH CENTURY work is the earliest Konkani book printed in the Roman script. I beg forgiveness of my readers for the unnecessary trouble I have caused them. Now, let us carry on with the issues raised by Godfrey. Part V Godfrey says: 5. by infiltrating into the ranks of the Archdiocese of Goa Daman and manipulating the think tank and top hierarchy of the Archdiocese of Goa Daman he cunningly succeeded in imposing an unstandardised script viz Konkani in Devanagari in Diocesan run schools in 1989-90 How did Bhembre infiltrate into the ranks of the Archdiocese of Goa Daman? Did he become a Catholic priest or religious brother, a member of any Diocesan body or even a Catechist? How could he impose anything on the Archdiocese? The Archdiocese of Goa was not made up of ignoramuses. All the priests in the higher echelons had received their education during the Portuguese regime. At that time, any boy who sensed a vocation for priesthood would join the Seminary after completing the Segundo grau (std. IV) of Portuguese primary education. Only after successfully completing a course of THIRTEEN YEARS OF RESIDENTIAL EDUCATION, he would be eligible to be ordained. During that course, he had to PASS IN EACH AND EVERY PAPER. A boy failing in a paper for two consecutive years would not be allowed to continue in the Seminary. Therefore, ONLY BOYS WITH A HIGH SCHOLASTIC ABILITY COULD COMPLETE THE COURSE. If at any time during that period he felt that priesthood was not for him, he could leave the Seminary and join any High school and get credit for the time spent in the Seminary; a boy who had passed the Fifth Year of the course would be able to join the Matriculation (std. XI) class. Therefore, we could treat the Sixth Year as equivalent to Matriculation. Any student who passed the Matriculation could continue in College for six years and earn an M.A. degree. Therefore any priest who had spent seven years in further education, and that too residential, could be easily considered as equivalent to at least M.A., B.T. Thus, the Archdiocese of Goa was endowed with scores of priests whose educational level was at least M.A., B.T. Moreover, the Archdiocese also had several priests who had actually obtained M.A., B.Ed. and even Ph.D. degrees AFTER their Ordination. The Archdiocese had been running over a hundred High schools (and a College too i.e. St. Xaviers) since 1962. With all these resources, how can we say that it fell prey to the machinations of just one person holding a mere B.A., LL.B.? If it was the question of introducing Konkani as the medium of instruction in the Primary schools administered by the Archdiocesan Board, this Board already had the experience of successfully running several primary schools in the Konkani medium, DEVANAGARI script, in the 1960s and later. Had there been any serious problem regarding the proposed step, these experienced priests would have brought it to the notice of the Archbishop and dissuaded him from taking that wrong step. Therefore, we cannot say that the Archdiocese went blindly into it. At that point in time, the TSKK, which is a part of the Archdiocese, was also in existence. Did the Kendra proffer any advice to the Archbishop with regard to the unstandardized script? If so, what was it? If not, why not? I am sure Fr. Mathew Almeida and Fr. Pratap Naik would be able to answer this. But will Godfrey dare probe this angle? (to be continued) S. M. Borges __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.
[Goanet] Some More Konkani Song-lyrics
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- http://www.clickgoa.com/arts/song-lyrics-goa.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
[Goanet] 60th Santosh Trophy - Goa beat Tripura by huge margin
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- In the 2nd group match of the 60th Santosh Trophy, played in Kerela Goa trash Tripura 15-0. Goals scored by: Anthony Pereria (2 goals) Clifford Miranda (1 goal) Freddy Mascarenhas (6 goals) Nicholas Rodrigues (3 goals) Nicolas Borges (2 goals), Alvito Rodrigues (1 goal). Viva Goa!!! borgee __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] RE: Goan Roads
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Here are my nominations for worst and best roads: WORST: 1. NH 17 from Margao to Canacona with craters which seem to have been transplanted directly from the lunar surface. 2. The brand new 10 km Bypass (NH4A?) from Old Goa to Panjim which has even been re-surfaced to a large extent recently! It is still like a wash board either longitudinally and horizontally! BEST 1. A stretch of road between Mapusa and Siolim (or maybe beyond) which is aesthetically very pleasing besides being a good surface. I agree that something should be done to make Goa's roads first class starting with the highways.
Re: [Goanet] Cheddvamchea Mogan poddon, Zaite pautti Foslam..
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Dear Joe, Just missed this..as we had a week Eid holidays. The lyrics of the full song along with the singer's name have been posted on the below site by me in 04.check it out: www.goa-world.com/goa/kantaram/ Song no 92. Regards Edward Verdes Chinchinim/Jeddah - Original Message - From: JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Cheddvamchea Mogan poddon, Zaite pautti Foslam.. SOUMSAR HO FOTTKIRO MUNNON OXEM MAKA DISLAM. CHEDDVAMCHEA MOGAN PODDON, ZAITE PAUTTI FOSLAM. ANIK ANI MOG NAKA MUNNON OGICH HANV BOSLAM, MOG TO KORUNK, VELL TO SARUNK EK SUKNNEM POSLAM. MAGIR TEM KANTAR KORTA KUKRUKUKUKU KUKRUKUKUKU KUKRUKUKUKU KU-KU-KU-KU KUKRUKUKUKU === I just sung the song. You now name the Singer, Can you ?? (the song Played on Akasvanni Ponnje)
Re: [Goanet] Amazing Goa Game Card Sets
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Jose, I hope that some of these game cards are available at the OIBS in Mapusa as I intend to pick a few up while I am presently here in North Goa. Any chance of snatching you away from your busy life and the launching throes of your soon to be released book ?...i shall be in south Goa next week...and hopeto meet you in some relaxed surroundings ?? twiga. Quoting jose lourenco [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Dear Fred It has come to my notice that you have mispelled some facts from my box of cards, as pointed out by Jorge and Cecil below: --- Re: amazing Goa corrections 2 Mon Oct 31 15:28:38 PST 2005 From: Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha joli.goa at mail.telepac.pt Only a minor correction to the above: The name of the Goan pioneer of Christian art ... is not Agnelo da Fonseca but Angelo da Fonseca (ANGelo, not AGNelo). and this one from Cecil: re: Who led the United Goans Party during the historic Opinion Poll of 1967? Dr Jace Sequeira (Panjim) It must be a typo .. Jack not Jace i.e. Dr Jack Sequeira -- Fred, I know you are a busy man and we all make mistakes, but your mistakes are making me look like an ass to the world! It would be blasphemy on my part to mispell the names of such eminent Goans as Sequeira and Fonseca. Please ensure that the facts are typed correctly or drop the column altogether. I have spent many years making sure I get my facts right and I don't want it all to go down the drain. You made me a fool in the eyes of senior Goans like Jorge Abreu Noronha and alert Goans like Cecil. Please publish the corrected facts in your next edition. I am busy with the printing of my Parish Churches book and I cannot defend myself on Goanet. You keep giving me much grief, Fred ! Jose Lourenco __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Goanet News Bytes * Ingo's market plans in Assagao makes it to the news...
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