Re: [Goanet] Salaam Aleikum
Now THIS is a correct, appropriate and respectful use of a greeting in a language not one's own, unlike the previous one we have been discussing. Thanks, Vivian. > --- Vivian D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All this hullaballoo about the traditional Muslim > greeting. Has anyone bothered to translate what > this Arabic greeting means in English ? > Someone once told me that it translates literally > into > > "Peace of the Lord be unto you !" > > I cannot vouch for the translation, but I am sure > it is something close to that. > Catholics use this phrase often during Mass. In > the old days it was > "Dominus Vobiscum" in Latin. Why all the fuss > about this greeting ? > > May the Peace of the Lord come upon all of you and > quit your beefin about insignificant matters ! > A-Salaam Aleikum ! Allah uh Akbar (God is great) ! > I say this with the greatest respect for all > religions and for all beliefs. > > Shenzi >
[Goanet] RE: RE: GeorgePinto on red Navy herrings
Just to play the devil's advocate for a moment (speculating to the hilt!), I'd like to say that we are probably NOT being logical or sensible enough, at least not in a COLLECTIVE sense. Think about it. When did Goans really begin to give a damn about Dabolim's potential as a civilian facility? Mid-80s? After CHOGM and the charters? Or mid-90s after KRC? What were they thinking from the mid-60s till then? Sleeping like the hare in the fable? Meanwhile our friends in the Navy had sized up Vasco/Dabolim before "liberation" and gained control soon after. They probably got IA to quickly start flights for the sake of their own and other govenment folks' travels including with families and parted with a few acres for a civil enclave terminal for the purpose. In the interim, Goans contented themselves with tortuous train and bus travel to Mumbai and other places. In the 70s when wide bodied jets appeared on the scene in India , the runway at Dabolim may have been expanded to accommodate these civilian aircraft. It would have increased from 6000 feet at the start to 7000 and odd. Later it would have reached the present length of about 10,000 fee similar to Mumbai and Delhi's. This extravagant length is is really not needed for naval VTOL/STOL purposes but what the heck. No one can do anything if its use for training is tied to an aircraft carrier anchored in Vasco! Since this carrier is getting obsolete and the Sea Harriers are crashing at regular intervals depleting the squadron, they go in for another vessel with a complement of aircraft for which India is the launch customer! These war machines will hold the fort for the foreseeable future. And the cycle wll repeat. There's also a back up in the form of the Union Cabinet resolution of March 2000 which decrees the closure of the civilian enclave once Mopa is ready whenever that happens. Just a matter of time. But they are in it for the long haul, right? We woke up to the reality only a few mnths ago! In the meantime they can blow hot and cold about Seabird's air station and nobody will be the wiser. Once Dabolim is in Navy hands completely then they will go full steam ahead with the Seabird air station. Oh, a civil enclave at Dabolim may continue even after Mopa goes live but it will be for defence and VVIP use only. This is the plan for Begumpet in Hyderabad. And may hold true in Bangalore HAL too. Aam admi can take a hike to Shamshahabad, Devenahalli and Mopa! To cut a long story short, it seems to me that the Navy is using sub-surface logic in full measure while employing the shield of "holy cow" to maximum effect against our own futile attempts to reason things out. We dont seem to be able to discuss our own viewpoints on the subject leave alone converge on a stand against the Navy's/military's clear obduracy. And btw, in the U.S. there is a periodical process called Base Review and Closure (BRAC) which makes detailed assessments of a base's military value and its economic importance (as a base) to its host site to make suitable adjustments. One was completed fairly recently I think. Here however the military seems completely impervious to the explosive growth in civil aviation and low cost air travel and is paralysed like a deer caught in headlights about how to cope in an agile and enlightened way.
[Goanet] Re: Salaam ali kum
Dear Mr Goveia You appear to be contradicting yourself - anyway let the matter rest. Try and use your valuable time in finding a more worthwhile topic to discuss!! - Original Message - From: "Mario Goveia" > Whoever you are, > While I agree that any properly spoken and > well-intentioned greeting is "sweet", it is far from > sweet, in fact downright patronizing, demeaning and > insulting, when one tries to co-opt a greeting in > another language and then distorts its form and usage. > >
[Goanet] Toronto Star: Retiring to one's roots
CANDOLIM, GOALike many other retired Torontonians, Rita and Vishnu Mathur went seeking the sun this winter, but instead of trekking off to a condo in Florida, they've found their version of an oceanside paradise here on India's southwest coast. They're among a growing number of foreign citizens Europeans, Indian expats from Britain, and a few intrepid Canadians, even some with no roots in India drawn to Goa by a fine climate, low cost of living, and cosmopolitan culture, advantages that for many outweigh the potential drawbacks of retiring in India. Each day for the Mathurs ends with a beach walk timed to catch the sun setting in a cloudless sky over the Arabian Sea. "We feel if we don't see it every day, we've really missed something magical," says Rita, 60, an editor. The Mathurs decided to buy a place in this former Portuguese colony, one of India's top beach destinations, three years ago. Candolim is 12 kilometres from Panaji, Goa's capital. http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer? pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=11 39786107890
Re: [Goanet] Re: Gabriel on ins kadamba 2
Mr. Gouveia change your mentality! We are neo colonizied. Do you want Goans to live in this permanent mental and phsyical wrap. Portugal does not want Goa and it was our Goan ancestors who invited the Portuguese to rule Goa. BTW you have a beautiful Portuguese name. BC --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wake up, Bernardo. History has moved on, unlike the > brown Portuguese, who are left with only their > futile > dreams of turning back the clock. I wonder how the > Portuguese "produced" Goa? Isn't it a historical > fact > that they acquired it by force and refused to leave > long after the colonial era was declared dead by the > rest of the civilized world? Do you look to the UN > only when it suits you? As I have said before, > those > without the physical resources to reverse the > movements of history must move on. So it is with > the > Portuguese, and so it is with the Indios. Anything > else is simply futile fantasy. > ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Visa-on-arrival facility for more countries
http://in.rediff.com/money/2006/feb/14visa.htm Visa-on-arrival facility for more countries BS Corporate Bureau in New Delhi | BS | February 14, 2006 | 10:06 IST The government is contemplating giving visa on arrival to people from 16 countries including, Australia, New Zealand and France. The proposal, prepared by a group of ministers, was awaiting clearance from the ministry of home affairs, Tourism and Culture Minister Ambika Soni told reporters in New delhi on Monday. Asked about the "security concerns" expressed by the home ministry over the proposal, Soni said there could be other ways in which the proposal could be implemented like electronic visa or long-term visa. She added that the tourism ministry would act as a facilitator for public-private partnership to increase international and domestic tourism. Soni said she had also met Finance Minister P Chidambaram seeking an "infrastructure status" for her ministry. "I have met the finance minister and I talked about granting tourism sector the status of infrastructure industry. They are looking into it," she said that adding, "the ministry has also given a proposal asking for increased budgetary allocation." Asked about various new initiatives taken by the ministry, she said apart from creating a special tourist circuit of national monuments and illuminating them, the ministry was also contemplating to launch a campaign to overcome the "negatives" like sex tourism or drug tourism. Soni, in her first press conference as culture and tourism minister, said the government was exploring cheaper options to overcome the shortage of hotel rooms in the country. With an eye on the expected surge in demand before the 2010 Commonwealth Games, Soni said she would be emphasising on budget hotels, paying guest accommodations and service apartments. Soni said she has already asked the DDA to locate sites for such projects, which would be auctioned in a transparent manner. URL for this article: http://www.rediff.com//money/2006/feb/14visa.htm -- Peace be with you! Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Re: Salaam ali kum!
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My dear, I agree with you, its just that, things get out of > hand when a certain someone enters the fray. I shall leave > this matter alone - as you said, a greeting is a greeting > however it is given and even if it is misspelt! > > I was just wondering, is there is a pussy behind Milad Meah > Meah or a sleeping dog and the chain was pulled? > Mario responds: > Gabe, Things got out of hand when YOU decided to gratuitously co-opt a Muslim greeting, used it patronisingly and inappropriately, and then tried to defend your usage with some bogus claims of familiarity with the middle-east. Now you are trying to deflect attention to those of us who called you on what you were attempting to do and your misrepresentations. > I was wondering, could you please restrict yourself to languages you are familiar with in future, and not get so defensive and abusive, as you are attempting in the case of Milad, when others point out what you have done? >
[Goanet] RE: Shroud of Secrecy around SFX body
Eddie, One sentence from the second link I provided gave a hint as to why the body of Francis Xavier should be seen a incorruptible and the shroud of secrecy surrounding the manipulation of his remains immediately post mortem. "Francis Xavier was accepted as a saint in his life itself." contained in the paragraph at this link http://pweb.sophia.ac.jp/~d-mccoy/xavier/newman3.html#exh Is this also why there is such zeal surrounding the supposed miracle performed by Mother Teresa? http://atheism.about.com/b/a/036502.htm Whatever else JP2 was, he definitely was in the saint-making business! http://www.marxist.com/Europe/wojtyla_and_teresa.html Kevin Saldanha ps. Fortunately, Turin is being celebrated for something other than a fake shroud. /ks - Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:47:49 - From: "Eddie Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] RE: Shroud of Turin - Original Message - From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" > Is St. Francis Xavier's undecomposed body a fake? .. Hi Mario, You will know about taxidermy. Could this be the explanation for the state of the body? mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
[Goanet] Groove Guru
Groove Guru Clickwalla.com Tuesday 14 February 2006 With 15 years experience in the music industry behind him, Groove Guru has spent the last five years DJing at outdoor clubs and beach parties (rave's) in Goa. His music is mainly influenced by Yoga, Meditation, Tai Chi, a Beach Lifestyle and Chillout Goan Trance. Club Tito's (a hotspot for BritAsian tourists) & Café Mambo - Baga Beach, Goa, Café Del Mar & Café Cuba - Palolem, Goa and Drop Anchor Beach Café - Baga, Goa are just some of the places he's spun in Goa and is where he developed his current style. Currently based in Surrey UK, he told Clickwalla.com: "Groove Guru - Vipshana (a form of meditation) helps me to transport myself mentally to some of the most chilled out places on earth, from beaches to holy cities. Which then helps me in experiencing the emotion and enabling me transfer it on to my music" Groove Guru is releasing the single "Palolem Karma" on 20th Feb 2006 and "Travel Shanti" on 27th March 2006. Both singles will be released on the Internet by E3 / Chromium Records ___ / / || \ \ / /___||\ \ / /___ ||/ / /_/ ||___/_/ Avelino D'Souza
[Goanet] Goa BJP holds protest rally, disrupts road traffic
http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=249781&cat=India Goa BJP holds protest rally, disrupts road traffic Panaji | February 14, 2006 9:46:10 PM IST The Goa BJP today organised a protest rally here today demanding the ouster of the Congress-led coalition government in the state headed by Mr Pratapsinh Rane for its alleged ''failures on all fronts''. Party workers blocked the one-km-long Mandovi bridge that leads to the new Assembly complex at Porvorim, disrupting traffic on the Panaji-Mumbai highway for about three hours. Party leaders, including former Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar, sought reinstallation of a BJP government in the state. Holding placards denouncing the government, the party workers went in a procession from Azad Maidan to the Kadamba inter-state bus terminal in the afternoon. The processionists included several women party workers. Most of the BJP legislators, Mr Shripad Naik, MP, and State unit party president Rajendra Arlekar addressed the rally. The blockade caused much suffering to the public whose woes were compounded with armed riot police blocking traffic rom the Assembly complex side. Hundreds of people, with loads on their heads, were seen walking down the bridge on either side to reach their destinations, and hundreds of vehicles were left stranded. UNI BM MAZ LR DB2104 -- Peace be with you! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Re: Salaam Aleikum
Be Indian and Talk Indian If you can't say or greet in YOUR MOTHER TOUNGUE then just say.. 'SASRIKAL PAJI' And beleive me, that's Indian too. (Besides Punjab, it's also very common way of greetings in UK) Now, please dont ask me what is 'Sasrikal' ? (Paji means brother) if you really insist, then I will find out from my work place/folk.. until then, 'Shukria' [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ for Goa & Goa Flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa For info on Konkani VCDs etc ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Lyrics of Konkani song "GOENCHI FENNI" by the late Alfred Rose!
Goa is nearing the spring season and the cashew trees are in full bloom all over the State. Kazkars are busy participating in pavnneo (auctions) in villages in order to take over the hills for new cashew crop. The late Alfred Rose has given us such a variety of songs that I dont think there is any subject he did not touch upon. In the following lyrics, he talks about Goenchi Fenni and how a European Company in a Gulf country was worried that the Fenni might take over other brands. In fact, I was in Bahrain in the mid 1970s when Me. Gray Mackenzie & Co. Ltd in Manama imported Cashew and Palm Fenni. Although in those days we were allowed to bring in as many as one dozen bottles of the Fenni, the moment Goans came to know that Fenni had arrived at Gray Mackenzie, they rushed to the store and bought as many bottles as they could carry in a bag. Obviously, the stuff was sold out within a week! No wonder, it became a matter of concern to the company and they stopped import of the Fenni with immediate effect. Thus, Goenchi Fenny created history in Bahrain! Here are the lyrics of the song GOENCHI FENNI by the late Alfred Rose: I Soglleanchea vonntar khevta tum mhunn Goenchi Ranni Goenkaranchea kallzachi ek moladik kanni Kitle ganv ti bonvon ailea ubi ravon battleani Konn tor ti sangat mhaka Tich ti Goenchi Fenni Chorus Fenni subeij zatoch, dolle zatat crink-crink Ani ginean apxinch zata shrink Chintun poilear borem, dista mhaka khorem Fenni Goenchi National drink Goencho serkar vavurta Goenchi fenni korunk National drink Eh .. La-la-la, la-la-la, lal-la-la-a-a La-la-la, la-la-la, lal-la-la-a-a II Beirut-chea ganvan vochot, arrak haddun ditat Russia-chea terran vochot, Vodka pivonk laitat Dusream ganvan, tanchea festank aplea sorean nannoitat Amchea Goyeam konnuch eit zalear taka fennien buddoitat Chorus Fenni sarki getoch, vokot koxi pietoch Nattak zata influenza, zor Adli fenni poixi tor, nivoll-nivoll Dudhsagor Punn atam ghaltat novsagor Koriea kitem, kortai kitem, noxiban ghala nangor Eh .. La-la-la, la-la-la, lal-la-la-a-a La-la-la, la-la-la, lal-la-la-a-a III Arabanchea ganvan assa ek Europi komponi Bhailo soro haddun ti vinkta ozaranim Hoi ti fenni, battleanim, ek pavtt haddleli tannim Arre, zap korun khopon geli ti thoddeach disanim Chorus Karbari bhielet, chintun mhunnonk laglet Ti fenni anik haddchenam Fenni haddit zalear, amcho soro pirdear Europi soro khopchonam Europi zanv, to konnui zanv Fenni konnank bhienam Eh .. Fe-e-e-nni - La-la-la, la-la-la, lal-la-la-a-a Fe-e-e-nni - La-la-la, la-la-la, lal-la-la-a-a Fe-e-e-nni - La-la-la, la-la-la, lal-la-la-a-a From Doms antique shelf! Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
[Goanet] Hindu groups protest against Valentines Day celebrations across India
Hindu groups protest against Valentines Day celebrations across India Varanasi | February 14, 2006 9:17:20 PM IST Hardline Hindu groups held loud protests against Valentines Day celebrations on Tuesday across India saying its was a foreign festival that corrupted traditional values. In Varanasi, activists of the Shiv Sena took to the streets along with priests to conduct marriages of whosoever seen indulging in indecent activities. Cards were burnt and anti-Valentine-celebration slogans were raised to voice the protests. Its celebrated in western countries and we do not support it. We are roaming the streets around with priests who will conduct marriages of whoever is found indulging in any indecent acts, said Gulshan Kapoor, a Shiv Sena activist. Saint Valentines Day has become increasingly popular in India in recent years, a trend led by retailers who do healthy business selling heart-shaped balloons and fluffy teddy bears. But the growing popularity of the day has also sparked protests, which have sometimes turned violent. Elsewhere in Nagpur, police arrested rowdy activists of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad and Bajrang Dal who whisked away couples from parks. These activists were forcibly whisking people and so we have arrested them under section 68 and 69,said Sanjeev Kumar Singhal, Deputy Commissioner of Police, Nagpur. In Indore, effigies were burnt to protest against the celebrations. On Monday, dozens of sword-wielding activists used loudspeakers in Bhopal to ask couples to stay indoors on Tuesday. On Sunday, in Mumbai, activists of the Shiv Sena, vandalised a gift shop and set fire to bundles of cards in a warning to shop owners and young lovers, a police official said. Groups like the Bajrang Dal and Shiv Sena are part of a growing tribe of cultural vigilantes opposed to what they see as increasing mimicry of the West, especially by teenagers. Such groups have in the past stopped the screening of controversial films dealing with homosexuality and the plight of widows forced into prostitution, saying they denigrated Indias ancient traditions. (ANI) -- Peace be with you! Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Remembering a forgotten intellectual fromyesterday's Goa
--- Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There were two occasions when postage stamps > dedicated to Ven Jose Vaz were > issued: There was a Pe. Jose Vaz stamp of 1 1/2 > tanga, which was one of > five stamps of the "Vultos da India" issue (the > other pictures being of D. > Joao de Castro, S. Francisco Xavier, D. Luis de > Ataide and Duarte Pacheco > Pereira) in 1948. In this stamp, however, the > philatelic bureau of the > Portuguese Postal Services seems to have made a > monumental mistake, as the > figure on the stamp has no resemblance to the > traditional portraits of Pe. > Jose Vaz but looks like one of Pe. Antonio Vieira. > Then there was an issue, > in 1951, of nine stamps all dedicated to Pe. Jose > Vaz on the tercentenary of > his birth. The lower part of all these nine stamps > bore the caption "India > Portuguesa", while the earlier (1948) series of > "Vultos da India" bore > "Estado da India". > > Regards. - Jorge Thank you Jorge for the explanation re stamps. Regards, Gabriel. Do you Yahoo!? Ban Bullying Week: Make a difference with Girlfriend. http://www.girlfriend.com.au
[Goanet] HC Refuses To Entertain Disqualified MLA's Plea For Salary
HC Refuses To Entertain Disqualified MLA's Plea For Salary Indlaw.com February 13, 2006 A two-member Goa bench of the Bombay High Court today rejected a petition by the UGDP legislator Mathanhy Saldanha who had urged the court to direct assembly Speaker Francisco Sardinha to pay his salaries and allowances that had been stopped following his disqualification as a legislator. The bench comprised justices R M S Khandeparkar and N A Britto. Another petition, challenging the Speaker's order disqualifying the legislator, is pending in the court. Mr Saldhana was disqalified last year for supporting the BJP government headed by Manohar Parrikar in defiance of the party whip under the 8th Schedule of the Constitution. The court has allowed Mr Saldanha to attend the sessions of the House without the right to speak or vote till the petition is disposed. (UNI) ___ / / || \ \ / /___||\ \ / /___ ||/ / /_/ ||___/_/ Avelino D'Souza
[Goanet] Koslim zait ghorkaram tumi ?
Koslim zait ghorkaram tumi ? Ami lhan astanach amkam possunk munn hadlim Amche bhonnik dakti astana marun khaili. Jevonn munn koslem ? Borem borem aponn katat ani ditat amkam olo-sololem. Aitar zaum, Somar zaum, jevnnak mat amchea toch suvad. Punn garant kosleim fugsanv aslear jevonn mat ghostachem. Antam ami vaddon vhodle zaleat muntorich.. Garant fugsanv munttlearuch amcher bhion kampero eta. Koslim munn ghorkaram tumi ? == Goemkaramdo, kitem munn tumi vachtat ? Amchem mollem ? Oslim ghorkaram ani-anik dusrim konn nhuim fokot tumi oi tumi. KONN ZAIT GAI AMI ?? === If you do know the ans., pl Dont think I am one of them. Hint: Thond, kalliz, popis, rogot, antkollio, nak, kan ani ambea pan [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ for Goa & Goa Flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa For info on Konkani VCDs etc ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] AMCAM NACA -Ek lipi (devanagari ) ek bhas KONKNNI ek sahitya ( literature) and ek samaz (community)
Elected representatives (law makers )in Goa Legislative Assembly who are expected to bring about the amendment to section 2(c) of the Official Language Act 1987 during this session should impress in the august HOUSE that all GOANS Hindus Moslems Catholics who believe they are "niz goencars" whether in Terrakol in Pernem (North) to Polem in Canacona (South) or Darbhondra in Sanguem (East) or Vasco-da-Gama in Mormugao (West ) of Goa believe that: a) KONKNNI is the MOTHER TONGUE of every true Goan niz goencar. b) for historical reasons some speak Konknni others Portuguese and some English; c) for historical reasons some read Konknni in Devanagari & Roman script others read in Marathi, Portuguese or English; d) for historical reasons some write Konknni in Devanagari & Roman script others write in Marathi, Portuguese or English; e) for liturgical purposes Catholics use Konknni in Roman script and for religious rite Hindus use Marathi or Konknni in devanagari script; f) all Hindu Bahujan Samaj (non Brahmin) community fully accept the fact that Catholics use Roman script and therefore it should also have been officially recognised as such in the Official Language Act 1987. Therefore any distortion of these facts by ex MLAs politicians out of power or aspiring to come to power that the Marathi protogonists will create a further turmoil is only a false canard a MYTH NOT A REALITY and intended to polarise the Goans, and should not be paid heed to in the current movement for recognition of UNITY IN LANGUAGE DIVERSITY OF SCRIPT Meanwhile as the script issue in favour of Roman script for Konknni besides Devanagari and Kannada in Karnataka is slowly but surely being pursued to the logical conclusion since the SCRIPT movement was revived in June 2005 several writers in various local dailies and weeklies have been advocating that the issue be SETTLED ACROSS THE TABLE. Many of the protoganists of UNITY IN LANGUAGE KONKNNI --- DIVERSITY IN SCRIPTS (Devanagari Roman Malayalam etc ) who this writer encountered at the during the long drawn movement are of the opinion that those who feel the issue should be settled across the table would do well to bring around the undermentioned tentatively listed names of protogonists who believe strongly only in Ek lipi (one script-DEVANAGARI ) ek bhas (one language KONKNNI ) ek sahitya (one literature) and ek samaz (one community) viz FROM GOA Mr Uday L Bhembre Mr Chandrakant Keni Dr Manoharrai Sardessai Mr Damodar Mauzo Mr Nagesh Karmali Ms Hema P. Naik Ms Kamalarao Deshpande Mr Manikrao Gavnekar Ms.Sunita Kanetkar Mr Satyavan Naik Mr Rajdeep Naik Mr Sudesh Lotlikar Mr Serafino Cota Mr Soter Barreto Mr S.M. Borges Mr Datta D. Naik Mr Datta S. Naik Mr Manoj Kamat Mr.Suresh Borkar Mr Damodar Ghanekar Mr Pandurang Bhangi Mr Ravindra Kelekar Ms Kiran Budkuley Dr Jayanti Naik Mr Pundalik Naik Mr Shivdas Naik Mr Bharat Naik Mr Tukaram shet Mr Dilip Borkar Ms Madhavi sardessai Ms Priyadarshini Tadkodkar Mr Sandesh Prabhudessai Mr Sridhar Kamat Mr Sridhar Kamat Bambolkar Mr Prakash Vazrikar Mr Arun sakhardande Ms Nayana Sakhardande Mr Prajwal Sakhardande Ms Anju Sakhardande Ms Jyoti Cuncolekar Mr Bhiku Bhomi Naik Mr Gurunath Kelekar Mr Sumant Kelekar Mr Ramesh Veluskar Mr Ashok Bhoslo Ms Prashanti Talpankar Ms Nayana Adarkar Ms Maya Kharangate Ms Vaijanti Prabhu Mr Srinivas Kamat Mr Mahabaleshwar Sail Mr Suresh Pai Ms Meena Kakodkar Mr Suresh Kakodkar Mr Raju Naik Mr Sanjiv Verenkar Mr Shyam Verenkar Dr Harischandra Nagvenkar Mr Bhushan Bhave Fr Mousinho Athaide Ms Maria Aurora Couto Fr Jaime Couto Fr Michael Fernandes Fr Moreno de Souza, S.J. Mr Prabhakar Bhide Mr Purnanand Chari Mr Rupa Chari Mr Babli Naik Mr Prashant Naik FROM KARNATAKA Mr Paul Moraes Mr Basti Vaman Shenoy Mr J.B.Moraes Mr Gokuldas Prabhu FROM KERALA Mr. N Purushottam Mallya Mr Sharaschand Shenoy Dr Usha Bai to accept DIVERSITY OF SCRIPTS. This will then lead to universalisation of Konknni and unity of Goans. GODFREY J I GONSALVES BORDA MARGAO GOA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9822158584 __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com
[Goanet] BJP opposes inclusion of Kamat's men in voters list
BJP opposes inclusion of Kamat's men in voters list BY HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, FEB 13 - The Margao unit of the BJP on Monday filed a list before the Salcete Mamlatdar citing objections to the inclusion of 50 names in the electoral list, including that of the PA and security guards of Power Minister Digambar Kamat. The party lodged the objections after petitioning before the Chief Electoral Officer last month alleging gross irregularities in the enumeration process to favour the Power Minister. In the list filed today, the party has pointed out that the name of Power Minister's PA Prakash Velip figures in the electoral list of Margao, adding that Velip's name figures in the electoral list of Quepem constituency. Similarly, the BJP has objected to the names of the two security guards of the Power Minister. Objections were also lodged to the inclusion of name of Kamat's daughter, who is married in Panjim, besides the Minister's close friend from Cuncolim. Sources in the Mamlatdar office disclosed that the parties to the dispute would be given a hearing on the matter. Meanwhile, sources said that the Mamlatdar's office is calling parties for a personal hearing even in cases where a petition is made for rectify spelling mistake in the names. ___ / / || \ \ / /___||\ \ / /___ ||/ / /_/ ||___/_/ Avelino D'Souza
[Goanet] RE Re Navy spooks new Chinese destroyer: The Dabolim Naval
[Gerry Ferns] In my own defence I should mention the following: 1. Characterisation as the resident air expert is not of my volition. Its an epithet of Gerry Ferns alone. 2. I dont recall having given any speculation/reasons in my post on the subject -- just posed a couple of questions. 3. As to his longwinded defence of the Navy's presence in Goa, I would only refer him to the acute observatons made on this subject by George Pinto and Gabriel de Figuieredo before my post appeared.
[Goanet] Fundacao's proposal to govt on renovations of heritage buildings
Fundacao's proposal to govt on renovations of heritage buildings NT Staff Reporter Panaji Feb 13: Fundacao Oriente today presented a proposal to the Governor, Mr S C Jamir expressing its willingness to assist the government agencies in renovations of heritage buildings in the state, which would in turn, largely benefit the local tourism industry. The president of the administrative council of the Fundacao Oriente, Lisbon, Dr Carlos Monjardino, presently in Goa, met the Governor and appraised him about the proposal. The delegate of Fundacao Oriente in India, Dr Sergio Mascarenhas e Almeida was also present during the meeting. The Governor was also briefed about the ongoing activities of Fundacao Oriente in the state and the country, including Monte Music Festival, works in visual arts and theatre, scholarships, awards for excellence in Portuguese language and sports. Later addressing a press conference, Dr Monjardino said that Fundacao Oriente has also given an indication about renovating the old Secretariat building, once the state cabinet moves to its new premises in Porvorim. "The government has been briefed as to what is to be done regarding the renovation," he said, adding that there is a possibility of converting the historical edifice into a museum, depending on the will and desire of the government. The government thinks that Fundacao Oriente can preserve historically important things and we are in the process of listing the priorities, he observed, pointing out that the Portugal-based cultural, philanthropic and social organisation could also help the government to formulate a master-plan about the renovation works. Mr Monjardino further informed that Fundacao Oriente is in possession of a collection of 40-odd original works of the celebrated Goan painter, Trinidad and his daughter, Angela and an adequate place would be identified in Goa to display them. "One of the main conditions of the Trinidad Trust, while handing over the collection of paintings to Fundacao Oriente was to find a suitable place in the state to exhibit them," he said, adding that Trinidad who died in 1930, initially lived in Mumbai and then shifted to US. The collection of paintings is presently is Portugal and is in extremely good condition, he added. The Fundacao Oriente chief also mentioned that Portugal can play an important role in some projects of the European Union as related to India, such as garbage disposal. One of the future plans of Fundacao Oriente consists of holding football matches of the Sporting Club of Portugal in India, on the occasion of the 100th anniversary of the club, he said, adding, "Let's see how we can do it." Fundacao Oriente is also taking an initiative in supporting a Portugal-based hotel establishment having chain of restaurants to open its outlets in India, offering delicious Portuguese recipes, Dr Monjardino said. Replying to a question, he said that Fundacao Oriente has been giving out annual scholarships in various areas including renovation, for the beneficiaries to go to Portugal in order to acquire expertise in these respective fields. "If needed, we can also hold workshops and classes here, to disseminate knowledge about special type of renovations," he assured. Answering yet another question, Dr Monjardino said that the activities of Fundacao Oriente are spread all over India, and at present being carried out in Goa, Kerala, Karnataka, Maharashtra, Delhi and also Daman as well as Diu where Portuguese classes are being conducted. Dr Monjardino will be meeting the officials of the central government, in New Delhi, later this week and discussing with them the situation in East Timor and Macau, both former Portuguese colonies, where Fundacao Oriente is still active. An annual report of Fundacao Oriente presented on the occasion has outlined completion of its 79 activities in India during 2006, including setting up of the Orient Museum and Cultural Centre. ___ / / || \ \ / /___||\ \ / /___ ||/ / /_/ ||___/_/ Avelino D'Souza
[Goanet] SEZs GO FOR IT
http://www.business-standard.com/iceworld/storypage.php?hpFlag=Y&chklogin=N&; autono=215155&leftnm=lmnu9&leftindx=9&lselect=0 IT feeds SEZ gold rush Siddharth Zarabi & Kp Narayana Kumar / New Delhi February 14, 2006 Of the 117 proposals approved by the Centre so far, 44 are from IT firms. The rush to set up special economic zones is being led by the information technology and IT-enabled services sector. Of the 117 proposals approved by the Centre so far, over a third (44) are from such companies. The list includes some top names in the business like TCS and Wipro and also a host of lesser known players like the Gurgaon-based Pioneer Profin and the Bangalore-based Cessna Garden Pvt Ltd. Together, the 44 proposals entail an investment of Rs 16,000 crore for over 8,230 acres of land, from the Rangareddy district in Andhra Pradesh to Moradabad in Uttar Pradesh. The total acreage envisaged under the 117 approved SEZs is a whopping 225,901 acres. Putting up a project in an SEZ fetches a company a host of fiscal benefits like 100 per cent tax exemption under Section 10A of the Income Tax Act, duty free imports, extension of tax benefits under Section 80 IA and external commercial borrowings without any maturity restriction. IT and ITES companies also seem to have taken a special liking for the National Capital Region with 11 zones choosing to be located in this area. Chennai has attracted 10, Bangalore and Pune five each and Kolkota four. These zones also propose to provide employment in very large numbers. Shyamaraju & Company's plans to set up a 74-acre zone at a cost of Rs 1,566 crore in Kundalahalli village near Bangalore, for instance, promises to give direct and indirect employment to no less than 97,600 persons. Compare this with a leading drug maker's proposed pharmaceuticals and biotech unit spread over a 40-acre zone at a cost of Rs 152 crore, which will give employment to "200 people over five years". The final number could be higher as multi-product SEZs approved by the government are bound to have a number of IT and ITES units. Investment worth Rs 47,000 crore has been committed to 73 multi-product SEZs.
[Goanet] Filming to keep an eye on rape of beaches?
Filming to keep an eye on rape of beaches? BY HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, FEB 13 - This might seem strange, but true. The South Goa district authorities have come out with a novel idea to keep a track on violation of coastal regulation zone regulations - by way of videography of the coastal belt. Towards this end, Collector J B Singh has submitted a proposal to the government to videograph the entire coastal belt along South Goa. The reason being that there's no proper check on the mushrooming of constructions, especially in the CRZ area, with various authorities passing the buck on each other. The decision to undertake videography was taken at a meeting of revenue officials wherein SDM Suresh Pilarnekar suggested that the Salcete belt be videographed in view of increasing number of constructions. With the suggestion evoking positive response from the officials, the district collector decided to videograph the district's entire coastal belt. What prompted the Margao SDM to suggest videography is the plain fact that a whole lot of constructions have surfaced along Salcete's coastal belt in both CRZ and private areas. In some cases, a survey by the talathis has brought to light the fact that some of these constructions have received licences from the Directorate of Tourism. Moreover, it has come to the fore that many of these constructions along the coastal belt have been expanded beyond the permissible limits. In the meantime, the SDM has written a letter to the Director of Tourism to provide details of licences issued to business establishments for small trades along the coastal belt. ___ / / || \ \ / /___||\ \ / /___ ||/ / /_/ ||___/_/ Avelino D'Souza
[Goanet] Love is in the air
Love is in the air The Hindu Monday, Feb 13, 2006 If love is driving you crazy, the market is here to add its bit Come February the winter is almost gone and the soothing spring pervades the air. Suddenly it is a very colourful and desirable world, a world full of expectation - and romance. It is that time of the year, when in the name of St. Valentine, flowers, gifts, goodies, cards and pleasantries are exchanged between the loved ones, eager to reiterate and reaffirm their bonds of love. Never to let go an opportunity to profit from, the market is awash with an array of stuff, all presumably to woo the near and dear ones. And, as usual, restaurants, hotels and shopkeepers have come out with special V-Day packages, dinners, cakes, chocolates and a bewildering array of merchandise. To begin with one can start with love games! Mauj Telecom, a leading wireless solutions provider, promising to send love in the airwaves, has brought out six mobile games based on some of the most celebrated love stories. These include all time classics like Heer Ranjha, Laila Majnu, Salim Anarkali, Romeo Juliet, Rapunzel and Sassi Punnu. Besides there are special "I love You" messages in 11 languages and much more. In every game the player has a clear cut task - save Anarkali from getting entombed, help Majnu collect hearts, roses, eliminate goons and unite Heer and Ranjha, unite Sassi and Punnu, rescue Rapunzel and prove that Romeo Juliet love is eternal. It is a novel idea in these e-times, where there are lots of gift ideas to choose from. WorldSpace Satellite Radio invites you to celebrate your love on digital airwaves. Couples can share their love stories on Radio Mirchi and may be get a chance to dine at a starred hotel. You can get to speak your heart out to that special person in your life on Spin, India's only 24-hour rock radio station dedicated to showcasing the hottest international rock and pop hits. To make it better you can take part in the "Straight from the heart" contest and win a romantic getaway for two to Goa! Talking of Goa, there are romantic getaways at Kenilworth beach and resort and spa in Goa. The resort has an enticing Valentine offer for three nights and four days, encompassing a wide array of activities. And for all Salsa lovers enjoy Salsa on Valentine's Day at the Tapas Bar, Vasant Continental Hotel, Vasant Vihar or participate in the all-star Salsa weekender in Goa. Blush-on! While Color Bar has introduced vibrant shades in eye shadows, blush-on, lipsticks and lip glosses to dress you with colours of love this Valentine, Oriflame wants you to treat your loved ones with its "Fire and Ice" tempting and seductive fragrances and body and mind range of sensual body products. Silver Rain, too, wants you to pamper your loved one with a gorgeous bouquet of rare fragrance it has come up with especially for the occasion. Or retreat to paradise and immerse yourself in nature's rejuvenating nutrients with H2O Plus range of gift sets for your Valentine. Magnificence, the leading designer packaging and gift boutique has unveiled an array of innovative and unique gift ideas for Valentines - ideas in the shape of ornamental bouquets designed in myriad colours, shapes and sizes done up with various coloured stones, fabrics and embellishments to last forever, heart shaped photo frames, gift platters and candles, wines and chocolates. There are even sunglasses from Tommy Hilfiger for the V-Day. Adora has a "Your Love Forever" collection that captures the eternity of diamonds set to expressions that define pure love. There is a contest too with the lucky winner slated to win exclusive diamond jewellery set specially designed by the melody queen Lata Mangeshkar, under her signature line 'Swaranjali'. Or you can cuddly with Orra jewellery this Valentine. Customers purchasing Orra jewellery this Valentine season will be gifted a special limited edition Teddy Bear. The leading brand of lifestyle products, art d'inox, has an exciting range of candle stands, photo frames, flower vases and bar accessories. There is a Tondo collection, mainly of pendants, in yellow gold, diamond, stainless steel and leather. Enamor innerwear has introduced for this Valentine's Day, the romance of roses in its lingerie and innerwear collection. ___ / / || \ \ / /___||\ \ / /___ ||/ / /_/ ||___/_/ Avelino D'Souza
[Goanet] Will Alva 'establish' Cong rule in MMC?
Will Alva 'establish' Cong rule in MMC? BY HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, FEB 13 - Ties between the ruling Margao Municipal coalition group comprising of the three-member Congress dissidents and the BJP has again come under strain with the Chairperson Piedade Noronha calling on AICC Observer, Margaret Alva on Sunday in what is widely seen as a move to pave way for the return of the dissidents back into the party fold. Immediately after the meeting, Alva got into her gear to bring both the Power Minister Digambar Kamat and Vijay Sardessai's factions under one banner and establish Congress rule over the body. Herald understands that the AICC observer immediately contacted Sardessai seeking his views on the possible return of the dissident group and his stand over the possible Congress rule. Sardessai is learnt to have told Alva that as long as he is in the Congress, he would work towards strengthening the party and made it quite clear that his four Councillors are more interested in ward development than power. In the 20-member body, the BJP has eight Councillors, while the Kamat and Sardessai factions in the Congress share four Councillors each. A tie-up between the Kamat and Sardessai factions and the three-member dissident group ought to have ensured Congress rule, but disagreement over the choice of the candidate for the post of Chairperson forced the dissident group to seek the support of the BJP. When contacted, Chairperson Piedade Norohna confirmed having met the AICC observer, but said that things will become clear after the Carnival festivities. Sources said that Piedade along with her group are willing to return to the Congress provided she continues in office for some time. "We haven't given our proposal to the Congress. May be after the Carnival we would discuss the matter threadbare", she maintained. Incidentally, this is the first time that the Chairperson has admitted having met a top Congress functionary. Sources said the BJP is keenly watching the developments and many did not rule out any counter moves from the saffron party to keep the Congress at bay. ___ / / || \ \ / /___||\ \ / /___ ||/ / /_/ ||___/_/ Avelino D'Souza
[Goanet] Where the city ends, the village begins
Where the city ends, the village begins Trends show increasing population concentration in existing urban centres RAMESH RAMANATHAN Tuesday, February 14, 2006 at hours IST I spent three days in Goa last week, attending an urban conference. While there is visible evidence that Goa-being a smaller state, and at the higher end of all development indicators-has different challenges from many other parts of the country, it also holds many lessons for what our future local challenges could be. The drive from the airport to the beautiful seaside resort took us past Panjim, the state capital, through Calangute to Candolim. The entire route was a fairly continuous stretch of development, with good roads, restaurants and services spotting the drive-in many ways, substantially urbanised. However, the political jurisdictions were invisible to us in that short 40-minute drive: we passed through two municipalities, one city corporation, and 12 gram panchayats-our hotel itself was located in a panchayat. While this may seem like a trivial issue, it has significant implications for many day-to-day decisions: the delivery and maintenance of the road network that links these towns and villages, the local public transport system, the water supply and sanitation service, garbage management, the environmental concerns arising out of the tourism industry, and so on. Detailed questioning revealed that these were indeed difficult questions that they were grappling with. These challenges are not being faced in Goa alone-they are already being felt in all our large metros, and are beginning to ripple across the smaller cities and towns as well. The Master Plan for Greater Bangalore, for instance, comprises 1,500 sq.km., of which Bangalore City Corporation is only 250 sq.km. Eight small municipalities comprise another 250 sq.km, while 1,000 sq.km. is made of 70 gram panchayats -the forthcoming Devanahalli International Airport is in a panchayat. The administrative and governance challenges are enormous: establishing transport systems, projecting and planning housing needs across different sections of society, ensuring environmental protection, identifying and enabling economic clusters, and so on. Many of these challenges are arising out of urbanisation, which is slicing up our local jurisdictional map like a birthday cake being slashed by a boisterous three-year-old. These are examples of regional coordination challenges-issues that are clearly beyond the boundaries of a specific local government, but are not large enough to be elevated to the state government. Hence, responses to these challenges require an intermediary level of decision-making, one that respects the role of local governments, and yet brings them together at a larger level. These challenges are not uniquely Indian-they are present in most countries in the world, with governments establishing different regional structures based on their constitutional provisions. While there are variations in the specific formulas being used-the regional structure in Toronto is different from that of London, which is again different from Tokyo-the common element is that there are formal systems that cluster multiple local governments, rural and urban, within a common regional footprint. So, how is India addressing the regional challenge? The scorecard is mixed: the good news is that the 74th Constitutional Amendment passed in 1992 envisaged the creation of exactly such regional platforms: a Metropolitan Planning Committee (MPC) in any area having a population greater than one million, and a district planning committee (DPC) for the smaller pockets. These committees were meant to be responsible for, among other things, the preparation of a development plan having regard to "matters of common interest between the Municipalities and the Panchayats including coordinated spatial planning of the area, sharing of water and other physical and natural resource, integrated development of infrastructure and environmental conservation". The bad news is that, more than a decade after the passage of the amendment, only one state has created an MPC: West Bengal, for Kolkata; and this too is not fully functional. Mumbai was forced to create an MPC by the courts, but this has never been operationalised. Almost 10 years after this amendment was passed, the National Commission to Review the Working of the Constitution (NCRCW) had this to say about the extent of the regional problems: "The B.E.S.T which is part of the BMC for instance, however, competent it may be, cannot do much about public transport in Mumbai if the Ministry of Railways handling the suburban system does not subscribe to a common plan. The Government of India's Ministry of Environment or Maharashtra's State Pollution Control Board cannot do much to mitigate pollution without BMC's active collaboration. Above all, the maintenance of the infrastructure to keep the mighty economic machine of Mumbai going is a task
[Goanet] RE: GeorgePinto on red Navy herrings
From: George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Navy in Goa, hence the phrase "for those who keep insisting that the Navy has no *strategic* role to play from Goa" is a red herring and straw man. Additionally, the Navy's refusal to let a few worshippers at a Church once a year on a Feast day, brings the Navy's supposed defense of freedom and democracy into question. Exactly whose freedom and democracy is it defending if citizens cannot exercise their constitutional rights? > Dear George, Well said. Interesting how those who claim to defend "freedom and democracy" deny "freedom and democracy" to the very people they claim to be "liberating". I suggest that the Indian Navy let All n Sundry know as it is i.e. 1: Forget Dabolim or Anjediva, Goa is the "spoils of war". We an do as we please with it. What will you Goans do to us? OR 2: Dabolim is strategically important to the defence of India. We know it is a civilian airport. Let us come to some suitable understanding where the Indian Navy will provide this, in return for the use of Dabolim, and Goa's civilian airport can go ahead with this. AND 3. OK, there is a church at Anjediv. You guys need it for a few days a year Unless there is a war or a threat of war ...Let us come to some arrangement. Unfortunately Geoge, I don't see 2 or 3 happening - not only in Goa but also anywhere else in the world. The armed forces are "jusht like that". That is why they have made arrangements in Delhi NOT to let the Army to close to Parliament. A civilian (President) is made the Commander in Chief. There is also a quid pro quo in all this. Let them do what they want out there ...as long as they don't come close to Parliament. The politicians in Pakistan are morons. They don't learn. Think about it. Are conflicts always necessary ...or are they often provoked? Is there Big Money in Arms procurement? Is there Feni in Goa? It's all about Power ani Poixe, dear George. Freedom and Democracy, my foot! There is the story of this Powerful Step-Father ... who used to beat up the child ... to teach him discipline, steal from his piggy-bank to teach him fiscal responsibility, and prevent him from using the living room .to protect him from the proverbial "boogie man". I'd say this to Phillip and Gabriel: You are making logical and sensible arguments. But this is not about Logic or Sense. Those are (as George Pinto rightly notes) red herrings. Its all about Power and Poixe. Goans can do what they want. Ain't nothing will change. Spoils of War don't have a say ...unless they repeat HMV. jc PS: do remeber this ...anytime you use the word "Liberation". _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[Goanet] Off to lovely beach
Off to lovely beach HindustanTimes.com Off to lovely beach Santosh Chowdhury February 13 HAVE YOU ever imagined going out for Valentine's Day on a cruise liner? And then spending a week on Lakshdaweep islands? The big tour operators in the city had, in fact, started offering tailor-made tour packages for newly-married couples during the busy marriage season which coincides favourably with the Valentine's Day on February 14. About 40 young Lucknowites who tied the knot early this month in the city are availing themselves of the two-night-three days-and-four-nights-five-days cruise packages being offered by city's tour operators to spend their Valentine's Day on board a cruise liner on the high seas off Mumbai. An interesting aspect of the dream of newly married couples also includes their curiosity to find out where their cabins were located in a liner as most tour operators have an entire layout of a liner shown on demand in their offices which makes it easy to pinpoint the exact area where the couples could get their cabins booked for the honeymoon. In any conventional passenger liner, the cabins in the lower decks experience high vibrations which are not the case with cruise liners which are designed to make the ride much more smoother on the high seas. This is also the reason why tourists don't mind staying in lower cabins. The typical domestic cruise circuit for those couples not owning a passport is the Mumbai-Goa-Mumbai and Mumbai-Lakshadweep-Mumbai. And the most preferred accommodation for couples from the city on the cruise liner had been found to be the affordable window cabin which is the lowest on a liner being 10-ft above waters while providing an exotic view of the sea, says Vivek Pandey, Area Manager of Delhi Express Travel Ltd. Another 15 couples among newly-married couples from the city who are passport holders are already on honeymoon trips to south-east Asian tourist circuit comprising Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand. These couples are not part of cruise packages in the south-east Asian circuit. The rich couples from the city still prefer to spend their honeymoon in Switzerland, he said. "We tailor tour packages for couples or families as per their budget in the city. There are many conducted tour packages, which do not suit every traveler in the city. The popular destinations among Lucknowites remain Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand and also Mauritius," S K Saxena, Manager, Travel Corporation of India (TCI), Lucknow adds.
[Goanet] Pl Name these Goan Flowers
Over 50 Goan flowers.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/ Please Name them if you can. Both English & Konkani names accepted. Just leave your 'comments' which is located under each photo. Even if you know one or two names, just name it. or just mail/reply quoting the No. e.g. Flower15 Thanks for your help. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ for Goa & Goa Flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa For info on Konkani VCDs etc ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Salaam Aleikum
All this hullaballoo about the traditional Muslim greeting. Has anyone bothered to translate what this Arabic greeting means in English ? Someone once told me that it translates literally into "Peace of the Lord be unto you !" I cannot vouch for the translation, but I am sure it is something close to that. Catholics use this phrase often during Mass. In the old days it was "Dominus Vobiscum" in Latin. Why all the fuss about this greeting ? May the Peace of the Lord come upon all of you and quit your beefin about insignificant matters ! A-Salaam Aleikum ! Allah uh Akbar (God is great) ! I say this with the greatest respect for all religions and for all beliefs. Shenzi
[Goanet] DIABETES IS IN EPIDEMIC PROPORTION
DIABETES IS IN EPIDEMIC PROPORTION AND NO CURE IN SIGHT But the good news is that it can be controlled. However, it is good to know the GLYCEMIC INDEX of the foods we eat. There are lots of research reports available about Glycemic Index numbers and more or less they are all the same numbers: COMMON FOODS WITH MINIMUM GLCEMIC INDEX: Yogurt plain - 14, Prunes - 15; Soybeans boiled - 16; Fructose - 22; Cherries - 22; Barley - 25; Grapefruit - 25; Lentils, red, boiled - 27; Spaghetti, protein enriched - 28; Black beans, boiled - 30; Lentils, green, boiled - 30; Whole milk - 30; Soy milk - 31; Skim milk - 32; Lima beans, boiled - 32; Fettucini - 32; Spaghetti, plain, boiled 5 minutes - 33; Pizza Hut, supreme - 33; Garbanzos - boiled, 34; Vermicelli - 35, Chocolate milk - 35; Yogurt, fruit - 36; Navy beans - 38; Tomato soup - 38; Apple -38; Apple - 38; Plums - 39; Peach - 42; Orange - 43; Custard - 43; Muffin, cinnamon apple - 44; Grapes - 46; Orange juice - 46; Pineapple juice - 46; Grapefruit juice - 48; Oatmeal cereal, old fashioned - 48; Bulgar wheat - 48; Peas, boiled - 48; Pumpernickel bread - 49. COMMON FOODS WITH HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX: Ice milk, vanilla - 50; Cheese tortelllini - 50; Linguini - 50; All Bran cereal - 51; Strawberry jam - 51; Kiwi - 52; Muesli cereal -54; Special K cereal - 54; Pound cake - 54; Yam - 54; Frosted Flakes cereal -55; Popcorn light - 55; Mango - 55;Banana - 56; Corn, sweet - 56; Potato chips - 56; Apricots - 57; Oatmeal cookie - 57; Pita bread - 57; Pear - 58; Papaya - 58; Basmati white rice - 58; Power Bar - 58; Potato, boiled - 59; Ice cream, vanilla - 60; Pizza, cheese and tomato - 60; Hamburger bun - 61; Honey - 62; Table sugar - 64; Rye bread - 64; Raisins - 64; Cantalope - 65; Colas - 65; Couscous - 65; Cream of Wheat cereal - 66; Green pea soup - 66; Pineapple - 66; Grapenuts cereal - 67; Shredded Wheat cereal - 67; Croissant - 67; Wheat Thins crackers - 67; Wheat bread - 68; White bread - 70; Life Savers candy - 70; Potatoes, white, mashed - 70; Millet - 71; Corn chips - 72; Soda crackers - 72; Bagel - 72; Watermelon - 72; Raisin bran cereal - 73; Cheerios cereal - 74; Bran Flakes cereal - 74. ONE HAS TO BE CONCERNED WITH THE FOLLOWING FOOD INDEXES: French fries - 75; Total cereal - 76; Doughnut - 76; Gatorade - 78; Rice cakes - 80; jelly beans -80; Pretzels - 83; Rice Chex cereal - 89; Potato, red, baked - 93; Baguette, French - 95; Glucose - 100; Dates - 103; Maltose - 105; Tofu frozen dessert - 115 READ AND PASS IT ON
[Goanet] Mass suicide bid on Goa beach, 2 dead
Mass suicide bid on Goa beach, 2 dead Sify.com PTI Tuesday, 14 February, 2006, 14:10 Panaji: A woman and her elder son died while another son and two daughters were hospitalised after they drank poison in a joint suicide bid on Miramar beach early Wednesday, police said. The mother Veena, hailing from Kerala, and her eldest son have died, while the other son, admitted to the Intensive Care Unit of Goa Medical College hospital, is in a critical condition, Superintendent of Police (north) D K Sawant said. He said the condition of the daughters Ashwini (15) and Amrita (12) was, however, stable and they were undergoing treatment at the Medical College Hospital and a private hospital respectively. Police suspect family problems to be the cause for the extreme step. The husband of the woman, Vasudev, is in Ernakulam and the family came to Goa on Monday, he said. "The incident occurred in early hours and was brought to the notice of the police by the people who went for a morning stroll on Miramar beach," Sawant said. "The 10-year-old girl is talking in Malayalam and police have rushed with a translator to track down their native address," Sawant said. Goa police would contact their counterpart in Kerala for further probe, he added. ___ / / || \ \ / /___||\ \ / /___ ||/ / /_/ ||___/_/ Avelino D'Souza
Re: [Goanet] Re: Salaam ali kum!
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13/02/06, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Why are these Goans patronizing Muslims by trying > to > > co-opt their greeting and then distorting it in a > > mindless debate about it? There is no Muslim > anywhere > > who would use the word "ali" in this greeting. > It's > > just flat out wrong. > > RESPONSE: Who let the dog out?? There are no Goan > Muslims? > Mario replies: > All Muslims, whether Goan or non-Goan, are being patronized and demeaned by the spurious use of their primary greeting. Perhaps one should stick to greetings in one's own language, if one cannot use a greeting in another language appropriately and correctly. >
[Goanet] Draw for GOA Rolling Trophy - Kuwait
G.O.A ROLLING TROPHY DRAW The draw for the 13th edition of the prestigious 'GOA Rolling Trophy' being organized by Goan Overseas Association (Kuwait) was held at the Village Inn Restaurant on Wednesday, 8th February 2006 at 7:30pm. The tournament as in the past is being sponsored by Bassem International Trading Company (Mr. Charles D'Sa) and will be played on knock out basis from the 17th of February until the 24th of March 2006. The draw was conducted in the presence of chief guest Mr. Clinton D'Sa who was representing the sponsors, and KIFF affiliated members. The teams have been divided into two groups as follows: Group A - (Ground A) Don Bosco v/s Bombay Boys, Paradiso v/s Veterans United (On 17/2/06 at 7:00am and 8:30am respectively), GOA Maroons v/s Fahaheel Brothers, and A.V.C v/s United Goans. (On 3/3/06 at 7:00am and 8:30am respectively) Group B - (Ground B) U.F.C v/s Santos Sports Club, Curtorcares v/s Navelim Y.C (On 17/2/06 at 7:00am and 8:30am respectively) D.H.L v/s CRC Chinchinim and K.G.A v/s Kerala Challengers. (On 3/3/06 at 7:00am and 8:30am respectively). Please log on to www.goa-maroons-kwt.org for more information on G.O.A activities in Kuwait and the latest Soor Ground activities updates. Julio Cardoso Kuwait
Re: [Goanet] Re: Salaam ali kum!
Whoever you are, While I agree that any properly spoken and well-intentioned greeting is "sweet", it is far from sweet, in fact downright patronizing, demeaning and insulting, when one tries to co-opt a greeting in another language and then distorts its form and usage. > --- Gulf International Promotions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the most absurd discussion we have come > across! A greeting is just as "SWEET" in any form! so please > drop IT! > > - Original Message - > From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Re: Salaam ali kum! > > > Why are these Goans patronizing Muslims by trying > to > > co-opt their greeting and then distorting it in a > > mindless debate about it? There is no Muslim > anywhere > > who would use the word "ali" in this greeting. > It's > > just flat out wrong. > >
[Goanet] GOA: VALENTINE'S DAY SHOCK - COUPLE DIES IN MASS SUICIDE BID AT MIRAMAR
GOA: VALENTINE'S DAY SHOCK - COUPLE DIES IN MASS SUICIDE BID AT MIRAMAR Daijiworld's special correspondent in Panaji Tuesday, Feb 14 - 11=30 am Five persons from Kerala in a suicide bid Second couple in critical condition A surviving ten-year-old girl key to clues on identity Panaji, Feb 14: The city's residents on Tuesday rose to the scary morning on Valentine's Day when a couple died, another couple was critically admitted to Goa Medical college and a 10-year-girl admitted to a private hospital. In a mass suicide bid, two tourist couples from Kerala along with a 10-year-old girl tried to commit suicide at Miramar beach. "A couple - man and a woman - succumbed to death at Goa Medical College, while another couple was admitted to intensive care unit (ICU). A 10-year-old girl who was found accompanying them is being treated at a private hospital in Panaji," stated superintendent of pollice (north) D K Sawant. "The tragic Incident occurred during wee hours. It was brought to the notice of the police later by the people who went for morning stroll on Miramar beach," informed police officials. All the five persons are from Kerala and police are yet to locate their address. "The 10-year-old girl is talking in Malayalam and police have rushed with a translator to track down their native address," Sawant said. The condition of a female admitted in ICU at Goa Medical college is reported to be improving while male remains critical, he said. ___ / / || \ \ / /___||\ \ / /___ ||/ / /_/ ||___/_/ Avelino D'Souza
[Goanet] [Fwd: for goanet: Goa in the Wall Street Journal (Europe)]
From: Patrice Riemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2006/02/14 Tue PM 04:47:58 GMT+05:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: for goanet: Goa in the Wall Street Journal (Europe) Hi Fred, I don't have any Goanet in my box, and forgot the address. Can you post it for me, thanks! --- "Goa: As with China, Indians, armed with more disposable income, are now discovering their own country as tourists. (...) The attractions of Goa are considerable. Goans are known as some of the friendliest people in India and almost everyone speaks English. The isolated beach resorts are magnificent, and a bargain compared with many other destinations in India. But Goa can be a downer at the same time. The narrow, potholed main road running along the beach towns of Northern Goa is filled with horn-konking, bumper-to-bumper traffic, including beefy tatooed Europeans on motorbikes, riding past kilometers of shlocky souvenir shops and snack bars." -- Frederick Noronha 784 Near Convent, Sonarbhat SALIGAO GOA India Freelance Journalist TEL: +91-832-2409490 MOBILE: 9822122436 Skype/Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha www.bytesforall.net
[Goanet] E-governance, Video conferencing in prisons, Broad Band in Goa
E-governance, Video conferencing in prisons, Broad Band in Goa deepikaglobal.com Panaji, Feb 13 (UNI) Governor S C Jamir has promised to formulate a detailed blue print for bringing about e-governance through a suitable Public-Private Partnership to improve delivery of public services to average citizen with speed, quality and transparency in government functioning. In his address to the first session of the year of the Goa Assembly today amid a 'silent walkout' by the Oposition BJP, Mr Jamir said the government had also proposed to provide people with broadband connectivity through optical fibre cable network in all villages besides setting up an information technology park. Under the Information security education and awareness programme initiated by the Centre, he said, the State government had appointed 25 new faculty members in the College of Engineering at Farmagudi which was identified as the participating institution under the project from Goa. At the sametime,in yet another bold step, the authorities were installing video conferencing equipment in the judicial lok-ups, Mapusa sub-jail, Sada and district courts of Panaji and Margao to facilitate conduct of trials through video conferencing.
[Goanet] The history of the beginning of Valentine's Day
The history of the beginning of Valentine's Day USA Vanguard Leigh Patton Staff Writer February 13, 2006 The history of Valentine's Day dates back as early as the fourth century B.C. in the Roman Empire. The holiday was originally set aside to honor Juno, the queen of the god's and goddesses and the goddess of marriage. However, today, Feb. 14 is better known as the day we celebrate St. Valentine. The tradition actually began in Rome with a festival on the eve of Feb 15, the day, which began the Feast of Lupercalia. At the festival, Roman girls name were put into a jar and then drawn by young Roman men to decide who would be their date for the continuing festival the next day. Sometimes the dates would turn into partnerships that would turn into marriage. However, the Claudius II was the ruler of Rome at this time and was unpopular due to the bloody wars he fought. Many men ultimately did not sign up to fight because they didn't want to leave their wives and children to fight, so in retaliation, Claudius II banned the festival and marriages. Most of the Romans disagreed with this decree. However, a priest by the name of St. Valentine began to perform marriages secretly. In a secret, quiet, candlelit room, just St. Valentine and the couple would participate in a marriage ceremony. To his detriment though, St. Valentine was discovered on night by a guard while performing the marriage ceremony, and was thrown into jail where he was sentenced to death. Many young people, including the daughter of a guard, would visit St. Valentine while he was in jail to lift his spirits. St. Valentine was eventually killed but before he died he wrote the guard's daughter a letter thanking her for her frequent visits. He signed the letter, "Love from your Valentine." Since then, St. Valentine has become known as the "patron saint of lovers", and people all over the world observe the holiday as time to remind themselves of love and friendship. Now the most common gifts for girls are generally cards, candy and flowers. If you have a little extra change in your pocket, you can take a girl to a nice dinner or maybe do something special and out of the ordinary, like cook dinner and dessert. However, guys are impossible to buy for; they never know what they want. So here are a few gift ideas: Apple iPod, universal remote, power tools, Apple iTunes gift certificate, a new wallet, or a satellite radio. It just all depends on how you much you want to spend. Happy Valentine's Day! ___ / / || \ \ / /___||\ \ / /___ ||/ / /_/ ||___/_/ Avelino D'Souza
[Goanet] AITUC threatens stir in Goa if demands not met
AITUC threatens stir in Goa if demands not met Webindia123.com Panaji | February 14, 2006 12:40:30 AM IST The CPI-led All India Trade Union Congress (AITUC) today threatened to intensify its agitation if the state government failed to accede to its 18-point charter of demands inclding regularisation of 1800 PWD contract labourers by next month. The AITUC, earlier, submitted a seven-page memorandum to chief minister Pratapsinh Rane listing their demands. It had also taken out a rally led by its general secretary Christopher Fonseca and secretary Rajiv Mangeshkar from Kadamaba Transport Corporation to the old secretariat that culminated in a meeting. Revival of Goa Antibiotic and Pharmaceutical Limited in Penjim, introduction of a new eco-friendly and labour-intensive industrial policy to attract durable investments, provision of at least 70 per cent jobs to locals in hotel industry, and raising of minimum daily wages to Rs 175, are some of the demands put forth by the AITUC. The AITUC, in a resolution, condemned the "repression let loose by the Government on Saleli villagers in South Goa's Sattari Taluka since December 2005". Stone-quarrying and crushing operations in the village have destroyed the productive fields and polluted the ground water, besides causing injury to humans and cattle, the AITUC said. UNI SRN-BM MAZ AK DB2151
[Goanet] SEZs: "Not special enough" [2nd try]
http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?hpFlag=Y&chklogin=N&au tono=215031&leftnm=lmnu5&lselect=0&leftindx=5 Not special enough Business Standard / New Delhi February 13, 2006
[Goanet] RE Re Navy spooks new Chinese destroyer: The Dabolim Naval Angle.
The Dabolim Naval Angle Sir, There could be speculation and speculation about the reasons behind the Naval logic and neccessity to retain Dabolim as a base for the defence of the country. Philip our in-house 'AIR EXPERT" has given some speculation/reasons. May I take the liberty to add some more speculations based on land and water aspects: a)DABOLIM TO KARACHI is the shortest NAVIGABLE, repeat NAVIGABLE distance. b)Dabolim to Karachi is the most direct and shortest distance for launch of TORPEDOES/UNDERWATER MISSILES, whether for ATTACK or DEFENCE. c) After occeanographic surveys it has been decided that underwater formations afford "sonographic muffling, and deception" characteristics than available at Seabird, Karwar. Masking of sonar signatures for DEFENCE AND ATTACK. d)A paradigm shift in defence perceptions ,not unlike paradigm shifts in earlier siting considerations of NUCLEAR INSTALLATIONS across the world. The earlier considerations determined siting of nuclear facilities deep within the territories of a Nation. New doctrinal concepts favour siting of nuclear installations close to own borders such that in event of attack,WIND direction, WATER currents would carry nuclear fallouts to adversary country.(eg Kahuta in Pakistan etc etc etc) e)The neccessity to deter attack against STRATEGIC NATIONAL ASSETS like the INSTITUTE OF OCCEANOGRAPHY, THE INSTITUTE OF PETROLEUM SAFETY, etc ,etc, etc,located in the State of Goa. f) The neccessity to secure Goan coastal waters and ports which are the LAUNCHPAD for STRATEGIC INDIAN EXPEDITIONS TO THE POLAR REGIONS AND TO ANTARTICA. g) The neccessity to have "lateral seperation in time and space" to lauch pre-emptive/retaliatory attacks against an ADVERSARY threatening IndiaS NUCLEAR ASSETS at KAIGA, in Karnataka. I shall be glad to "speculate" further if neccessary in the DEFENCE OF OUR COUNTRY. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF INDIA. MAY THEY CONTINUE TO AFFORD SHELTER TO DISPOSSED PEOPLE EVEN THOUGH THEY LATER TURN OUT TO BE INGRATES. MAY THE CITIZENS OF THIS REPUBLIC EVER PROSPER. Gerry Ferns __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Re: Navy 'spooks' new Chinese destroyer
[Gilbert Menezes] Note the rather exaggerated use of words like "strategic" and "target" . Where is the immediate malign enemy intent and where are the defensive "teeth"? When did the Navy last spot -- and take out -- a lone vessel in the Arabian Sea which was bent on hitting Indian targets? As the old saw goes "You can fool some of the people all of the time etc etc"!
[Goanet] Cruise terminal at Aguada bay on govt agenda
Cruise terminal at Aguada bay on govt agenda BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, FEB 13 - The Goa government has plans to put up a cruise terminal at Aguada bay to boost cruise tourism and would also formulate a 'blue print' for bringing about e-governance in the State through public-private partnership. This is among the various developmental works - which are either underway or proposed to be taken up in Goa - enlisted by Governor S C Jamir during his customary address to the Goa Assembly on the opening day of the five-day winter session. He said the cruise terminal proposed at Aguada bay with private participation would cater to the large cruise vessels offering a draft of 7 metres. In his 30 minutes speech, the governor said the Planning Commission during the mid-term appraisal has taken cognizance of the fact that Goa has achieved 80 per cent of the expected resource generation in the first four years of the 10th Five-Year Plan. Goa is ahead of the monitorable targets in the areas of health, education and gender equality and is nearer to the Millennium Development Goals, the Governor said. The government has also proposed to provide broadband connectivity in every village by laying optical fibre cable. The government is in the process of finalising the "Universal Mediclaim" scheme. The government, he said, has arrested the trend of declining budgetary support to the Goa University. An additional allocation of Rs 4 crore has been made during the financial year. Concerned at the rising accident rate, the government is conducting various road safety programmes including special refresher training courses for mining drivers. Convention Centre, Institute of Hotel Management, Monorail, Mopa airport, North-South Expressway, augmentation of regional water supply, schemes to boost horticulture, fisheries, khadi industry, poultry, eco-tourism, etc were the other highlights of Jamir's speech. ___ / / || \ \ / /___||\ \ / /___ ||/ / /_/ ||___/_/ Avelino D'Souza
[Goanet] Ingo Grill to go
Ingo Grill to go HERALD CORRESPONDENT CALANGUTE, FEB 13 - Ingo Grill is in news once again. The Goa Police have now found sufficient evidence to deport this infamous German national after he stole media attention for his "undesirable activities" in the State. Highly placed source in the police department have confirmed that Ingo Grill has been served a notice under section 3/2 C of the Deportation of Foreigners Act, which gives the government powers to deport a foreign national who is undesirable. It has been learnt that a Russian national has already been deported and a deportation notice has been served on Ingo Grill and his wife. Police sources claimed that they maintained a watch on the activities of over 200 foreigners in the State and are likely to issue deportation notices to well over 30 foreigners, most of whom have been staying in Goa for several months. The foreigners identified for deportation had been visiting Goa frequently and as they were indulging in "undesirable activities" were seen fit by the State police to be sent back to their respective countries and the exercise had been carried out through the home department. Meanwhile, this could also lead to the process of banning the foreigners from obtaining a fresh visa to re-enter the country through Indian missions aboard. The police are also collecting vital information on some foreigners who are suspected to be involved in financial crimes and drug peddling or any other illegal activities. It has also been learnt that the State police are in the process of forwarding the case history of the "undesired" foreigners to the Indian mission in their respective countries in an effort to put a stop the issue of fresh visas to them. Sources claimed that there are over 200 foreigners on business visas from foreign countries engaged in business activities in Goa, apart from foreigners coming on the tourist visas and still trying their hand on local business, most of whom are operating along the coastal belt. Sources informed Herald that most of the foreigners who are on a watch for deportation are based in North Goa. Meanwhile, the State police had issued a circular to all police stations asking to furnish information pertaining to foreigners' business activities and verification of their passport and visas. The information available from the foreigners' branch of the Goa police revealed that the foreigners on business visas are mainly Britons, Greeks, Dutch, Germans, Israelis, Italians and Norwegians. Besides, there are 2,414 registered foreigners staying in Goa for a period of over six months and some of them have also maintained bank accounts illegally. The foreigners on business visas having bank accounts need to compulsorily have a Reserve Bank of India's clearance. ___ / / || \ \ / /___||\ \ / /___ ||/ / /_/ ||___/_/ Avelino D'Souza
Re: [Goanet] Re: Gabriel on ins kadamba 2
Wake up, Bernardo. History has moved on, unlike the brown Portuguese, who are left with only their futile dreams of turning back the clock. I wonder how the Portuguese "produced" Goa? Isn't it a historical fact that they acquired it by force and refused to leave long after the colonial era was declared dead by the rest of the civilized world? Do you look to the UN only when it suits you? As I have said before, those without the physical resources to reverse the movements of history must move on. So it is with the Portuguese, and so it is with the Indios. Anything else is simply futile fantasy. > --- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More confusion, india was never a country, before > the > Portuguese produced Goa. Wa is repression when > thousands now reclaim Portuguese citizenship? Our > lads > from Salcete boast of 30 grand salaries in the UK > via > their BI. > > When will US colonization end with the índios? > > BC > --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Since there seems to be some confusion on this > > issue, > > and some attempted obfuscation by the intrepid > > Portuguese citizen, Jose, I believe "liberation" > in > > the context of Goa was that an repressed > population, > > namely Goans, whose ancestral homeland was > acquired > > by > > force 450 years ago, and who were forcibly > prevented > > from self-governance, were relieved from the yoke > of > > the repressive power, namely Portugal, with a > > not-so-gentle nudge from the country that Goa was > > historically a part of, namely India. Since > > Portugal > > did not have the means to defend it's colonial > hold > > on > > Goa, it had to accept the status quo. Thus it has > > been from the days of Attila the Hun and Genghis > > Khan: > > in the world of real-world geopolitics, weak > nations > > are forced to move on with their lives. > > > > > ___ > > Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter > now. http://www.yahoo.co.uk/blackberry > >
[Goanet] The case of LDPE: Placing the bull on the cart
LDPE is the material for the now infamous plastic bag. In Goa it seems to have irked the authorities were a ban is about to close its activities. The carrier bag can be bad for the environment if not disposed off since it does not allow mutter earth to breathe even though a claim for degradation is there. But take the case of a place such as Hong Kong that consumes nearly 30 tonnes of LDPE per day. The government does not encourage the use of it although it is part of the citzens day to day life. Besides there are various disposals means to handle the pollution menance. Wa about Goa do we have the infrastructure to dispose of the bags? Can a bin or a tipper trash survive a day without being stolen? Therefore why was the carrier bag introduced to Goa? Is it part of the 'liberation' 'progress'? The case of the LDPE is just an other story (Goa)of the bull on the cart, a bull behind the cart can lock horns and push and find its way. LDPE = Low Density Polyethyelene. BC ___ Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
[Goanet] RE: IAF can't spare pilots for civil aviation
You can say that again, Boss! Note that he is probably referring only to the 'direct' that too operating cost of such training. Capital cost is probably nil or completely depreciated. When was the last time the IAF built a spanking new base from scratch (like the Navy is doing at Karwar)? What about the 'indirect' cost of the training? Prime among these is the opportunity cost of throttling economic activity at the civil enclaves at the bases where the training is imparted. Business travel and tourism are the areas impacted and to these the social cost of curtailing visits to friends and relatives must also be added. There are at least 15 IAF bases with civil enclaves including such economically crucial ones like Hyderabad, Agra and Pune. Bangalore (HAL) and Dabolim (Navy) are two other military bases where training and the like are done. To get around the constraints posed by training at bases with civil enclaves, the civil aviation ministry has mandated that greenfield airports should be built at some considerable distance (for 'security' reasons). Such new airports tend to be extravagant ones (in a vain bid to become 'world class') and are built at much greater cost than necessary. Who bears the resulting high fares charged by airlines operating from such airports? The common man. The old throttling problem in a new form. Then there is the requirement that the old civil enclave should be shut down (to revert completely to the military). This raises the spectre of dislocation and disruption of economic activity (supply chains, livelihoods etc) at the old location for the sake of a couple of military squadrons. For its part, the new location requires new access roads, new property development, new human resources development for business etc. No doubt this is good for economic development but what about the cost? And to what end? The top brass needs to seriously think about such fall-outs of their activities and make the adjustments called for without being asked.
Re: [Goanet] Re: Navy 'spooks' new Chinese destroyer
--- gilbert menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:27:49 +0300 > > From: "D'Souza, Avelino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Navy 'spooks' new Chinese destroyer > > Rajat Pandit > > Thursday, February 09, 2006 01:35:21 am TIMES NEWS > NETWORK > > > > NEW DELHI: In a remarkable act of long-range > maritime snooping, Navy's > > reconnaissance aircraft and spy drones detected, > tracked and > > photographed a spanking new Chinese destroyer and > a tanker traversing > > through the Indian Ocean region this weekend. > > Note that this "snooping" can also be done by satellite imagery (of course, time-dependent if geo-stationary satellites are not used). If I can see my residence and see two parked vans in front of it via google-earth (I suppose this is a static image), I see no reason why Indian defence cannot invest in some high-quality streaming digital photography from its own eye-in-the-sky stationed directly above the subcontinent - would save fuel over the years, methinks - and might be able to "snoop" into China if it so desires, I'm sure, without "violating" its airspace. My 5-cents worth. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Movies: Check out the Latest Trailers, Premiere Photos and full Actor Database. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Re: Navy 'spooks' new Chinese destroyer
--- gilbert menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those who keep insisting that the Navy has no > *strategic* role to > play from Goa, here is an example of just that. They could have played that strategic role from the SeaBird (please note the double-meaning in the project name - SeaBird). You do not need Dabolim for that. Thank you very much, Navy, for taking care of the airport 'till now, but please revert Dabolim back to its original civilian status. You may fly your surveillance planes from there if and when required, but please, no training flights. Goa has "ceded" Anjediva to the Navy, and as goodwill, it ought to build its own purpose-built airstrips on SeaBird for training and surveillance, and relinquish its hold on Dabolim. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News: Get the latest news via video today! http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/
Re: [Goanet] Is India Finally Taking Off?
--- "D'Souza, Avelino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why can't India move as quickly ahead on > infrastructure development as > China? > > We have the strength of democracy. We have to factor > in different shades > of opinion. In China the government decides, and > it's done. That's all. > They don't have to factor in process or the various > checks and balances, > like we do. We are accountable to Parliament, > government institutions, > the media and stakeholders. Checks and balances? More likely cheques and what goes in the pockets! No, the reason is not democracy that has slowed down Indian development - it is controls (in car manufacturing at one time, the maximum production that was allowed, if I am not mistaken, was 12,000 cars a year!) and the ubiquitous red tape. For any new business to take off in Inida, it requires going through layers of bureaucratic forms and not forgetting the "oil" that one has to pay to get things moving. As to being accountable to Parliament, I wonder if anyone was. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News: Get the latest news via video today! http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/
Re: [Goanet] RE: Shroud of Turin
- Original Message - From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] RE: Shroud of Turin Is St. Francis Xavier's undecomposed body a fake? .. Hi Mario, You will know about taxidermy. Could this be the explanation for the state of the body? Book Review by Cal McCrystal of The Jesuits. By Jonathan Wright Source: Independent On Sunday (UK) Publication date: 15 February 2004 Excerpt: ...Unaccountably, the most intriguing episode of cerebral penetration and removal is not given in this otherwise admirable account. It concerns Francis Xavier, a tall, spare, well-born recruit to the new Society of Jesus, founded in 1534 by Ignatius of Loyola. Wright describes the circumstances of Xavier's death in 1552 on the island of Sancian, off the Chinese mainland, which he had reached on a ship loaded with a cargo of pepper and other spices. In his sacerdotal robes he was placed in a tomb much too small for his size (mallets were used to force him in). Many months later, the body was exhumed and taken to Goa where witnesses testified to, instead of decomposition, the "clothes entire, and the colour as that of a living man, and exhaling a pleasant odour". This was hailed as a miracle. Sainthood was bestowed. The inspiring tale uplifts Roman Catholics to this day. I now introduce a sceptical note. In the 1880s a more prosaic version, based on documentary and scientific evidence, was published in the Quarterly Review and then generally ignored. It suggested that Father Xavier's entrails and brain had been removed on the instructions of the Portuguese shipowner, James Pereira, who further ordered that the corpse be stuffed with part of his cargo to preserve it. If true, this would explain the suspension of decay and the agreeable odour. Pereira's motive in faking the "miracle" was to retain influence at Court by claiming the protection of a glorified saint. .. After reading the article, I tracked down, emailed and then phoned Cal McCrystal who was a senior journalist on the staff of The Observer and who happens to live quite near to me. I asked him for the source of his claims. He told me that they were: 1. Quarterly Review Vol. 260, 1871. The hundred years of Christianity in Japan 2. William W Ireland: The Blot upon the Brain, p. 165-188. 1843, 2nd ed. Edinburgh, Bell. I was given to understand that the Church suppressed these publications. Check them out! Cheers, Eddie Fernandes
[Goanet] Goa on the front page of The Toronto Star
CANDOLIM, GOA Like many other retired Torontonians, Rita and Vishnu Mathur went seeking the sun this winter, but instead of trekking off to a condo in Florida, they've found their version of an oceanside paradise here on India's southwest coast. They're among a growing number of foreign citizens Europeans, Indian expats from Britain, and a few intrepid Canadians, even some with no roots in India drawn to Goa by a fine climate, low cost of living, and cosmopolitan culture, advantages that for many outweigh the potential drawbacks of retiring in India. -see below- http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1139786107890 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
[Goanet] Re: Navy 'spooks' new Chinese destroyer
The argument against the Navy at Dabolim, is not an argument against the Navy in Goa, hence the phrase "for those who keep insisting that the Navy has no *strategic* role to play from Goa" is a red herring and straw man. Additionally, the Navy's refusal to let a few worshippers at a Church once a year on a Feast day, brings the Navy's supposed defense of freedom and democracy into question. Exactly whose freedom and democracy is it defending if citizens cannot exercise their constitutional rights? Regards, George --- gilbert menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those who keep insisting that the Navy has no *strategic* role to > play from Goa, here is an example of just that. The targets in > question were operating, in one case, near the gulf of aden, and in > the other case near south Africa, thosands of miles away from our home > bases. What the article hasn't mentioned is that it is the Navys > constant peacetime role to be prepared for war, and to gather as much > information about our prospective enemies.
[Goanet] Re: Rs 1.25 cr for garden facelift
Is this what is termed spreading the manure around? Where are all the Ponjekars of cyber Goa? They do not seem to raise their voice at their elected representative pushing this "need / largess". Or perhaps they may like the manure, now that it is their backyard. On the other hand, any school, temple or church or charitable organization could get their hand on the 2.25 crores. They should volunteer to maintain the gardens. Under a grand plan various sections of the gardens could be handed over (along with the money) to different organizations. There could also be a friendly competition for creativity, artistic display, etc. etc. Kind Regards, GL Lawrence Rodrigues: << It may be recalled that during the tenure of the BJP Government, work on the Municipal garden kept pending despite the Goa State Infrastructure Development Corporation handing over the entire amount of Rs one crore as advance to Simplex for execution of the works. >> Now... << Deputy Chief Minister and Tourism Minister Dr Wilfred de Souza for sanctioning 1.25 crore towards development of the Municipal garden in the city. Dr de Souza allocated the funds through the Tourism Department to the Corporation of the City of Panaji (CCP) following a request from Furtado >> Where exactly is this garden? How big is it? Rs.2.25 crores (1 + 1.25) for some murrum, dung, and seeds ? Will the pathways be paved with gold ? Lawrence --
[Goanet] Postal weightlifting tournament in Goa from tomorrow
Postal weightlifting tournament in Goa from tomorrow Webindia123.com Panaji | February 13, 2006 2:42:28 PM IST The 17 Postal Circles, including reigning champions Andhra Pradesh, will vie for top honours in the four-day-long 21st All-India Postal Weightlifting/Powerlifting and Best Physique Tournament beginning, Mapusa in North Goa from tomorrow. The tournament is being organised by Postal Services Staff Welfare Board with an aim to promote, develop and organise welfare, sports and cultural activities for the employees of the department, said Postmaster General (Goa Region) Aruna Jain and Post Master General (Foreign Post and Marketing) for Maharashtra and Goa K C Mishra while jointly speaking to media persons here today. Ms Jain said about 120 participants, including officials from 17 Postal Circles from all over India, will be seen in action. Some of the Postal Circles participating in the event are Bihar, Delhi, Andhra Pradesh, Assam, Kerala, Madhya Pradesh, Karnataka, Rajasthan, Maharastra, Orissa, Punjab, Tamil Nadu, UP and West Bengal. The weightlifting, powerlifting and best physique competition will be conduncted in different weight categories. In the best physique competition, the winner will be adjudged 'Dak Sree'. Last years championship was held in Rajasthan, and Andhra Pradesh had won the two team championships - in weightlifting and powerlifting. Goa Governor S C Jamir will inaugurate the tournament.(UNI)
[Goanet] AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - Fevrerachi 14vi, 2006!
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Re: [Goanet] Re: Salaam ali kum!
On 13/02/06, Gulf International Promotions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the most absurd discussion we have come across! A greeting is just > as "SWEET" in any form! so please drop IT! > > From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Re: Salaam ali kum! > > > Why are these Goans patronizing Muslims by trying to > > co-opt their greeting and then distorting it in a > > mindless debate about it? There is no Muslim anywhere > > who would use the word "ali" in this greeting. It's > > just flat out wrong. RESPONSE: My dear, I agree with you, its just that, things get out of hand when a certain someone enters the fray. I shall leave this matter alone - as you said, a greeting is a greeting however it is given and even if it is misspelt! I was just wondering, is there is a pussy behind Milad Meah Meah or a sleeping dog and the chain was pulled? -- Peace be with you! Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Remembering a forgotten intellectual fromyesterday's Goa
Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 1:25 PM > >> (And) the four years of > > self-government > > have been bitter and painful... experience... The > > self-government, instead of improving the economic > > situation > > in the colony, has worsened it. (Moreover), under > > the > > umbrella of the Legislative Council the ministers > > abuse the > > system to line their own pockets." > > Is this the "Republica da India Portuguesa" I was told > about by Oboe Noronha? The autonomy lasted a short > while. I remember some postage stamps with the > picture of Ven. Jose Vaz - but I'm not sure whether it > said Estado or Republica da India Portuguesa - could > someone elucidate? > There were two occasions when postage stamps dedicated to Ven Jose Vaz were issued: There was a Pe. Jose Vaz stamp of 1 1/2 tanga, which was one of five stamps of the "Vultos da India" issue (the other pictures being of D. Joao de Castro, S. Francisco Xavier, D. Luis de Ataide and Duarte Pacheco Pereira) in 1948. In this stamp, however, the philatelic bureau of the Portuguese Postal Services seems to have made a monumental mistake, as the figure on the stamp has no resemblance to the traditional portraits of Pe. Jose Vaz but looks like one of Pe. Antonio Vieira. Then there was an issue, in 1951, of nine stamps all dedicated to Pe. Jose Vaz on the tercentenary of his birth. The lower part of all these nine stamps bore the caption "India Portuguesa", while the earlier (1948) series of "Vultos da India" bore "Estado da India". Regards. - Jorge
