[Goanet] Konkani Press and communalism.
Sunaparant Sows seeds of hate and communalism in Goa The Konknni daily Sunaparant, published in the official Devanagri script, has been consistently sowing e seeds of hatred, division and communalism in Goa. Fortunately very few people read that paper. Unfortunately most its editors and writers are known in the society as thinkers and secularists. Here below we produce name of a few articles, which contain seeds of communalism, its authors and date of publication. If these articles were published in a paper owned and published by fundamentalists we would not have bothered. But these articles are written and published by those who outwardly proclaim to be secularists and progressive thinkers. Date Name of the Article English Equivalent Author page 07.07.2005 Imrana tum Sekyuloristtank Bhogos Imrana you forgive Secularists Subhash Velingkar 4 18.08.2005 Brittixamni zolmak ghalo Kongresin poslo! British gave birth Congress reared it! Subhash Velingkar 4 25.08.2005 Okhonndd Bharotachem Sopon The dream of unbroken India Subhash Velingkar 4 01.09.2005 Gõyant Jehad naka! In Goa there is no need of Jehad! Subhash Velingkar 4 15.09.2005 Ami Brittixanche put We are sons of British Subhash Velingkar 4 06.10.2005 Kongresi Gõy sorkaracho 'Secular ojendda The secular agenda of Goas Congress Govt. Subhash Velingkar 4 03.11.2005 Purtugezanchem kast Gõyant siddh zalem! Portuguese cast is proved in Goa! Subhash Velingkar 4 10.11.2005 Gõy portem Purtugezanchea Tabeant Goa once again in the hands of Portuguese Subhash Velingkar 4 17.11.2005 Hindu motodara, tuka Kimmot na! O Hindu voter, you have no Value! Subhash Velingkar 4 24.11.2005 Ailem! Pakhleanchem Rajy ailem!! Arrived! The rule of foreigners Has arrived!! Subhash Velingkar 4 01.12.2005 Tenna bolli poddle, Atam poddche nat Then we became the victims, but no more Subhash Velingkar 4 05.01.2006 Pornnea sochivaloyacher Purtugez bavtto? Is Portuguese flag on Old Secretariat? Subhash Velingkar 4 19.01.2006 He sont kai soitan? Are these saints or satans? Subhash Velingkar 4 26.01.2006 Hanga kast (vonvx) Bodlun melltta! Here you can change your Caste (lineage) Subhash Velingkar 4 09.02.2006 Khobordar! Hindunk (atam) Sonvedona asat Beware! (Now) Hindus have feelings Subhash Velingkar 4 23.02.2006 Novea Pakistan nirmonnek Tenko divya, cholat! Come on let us give support to creation of New Pakistan! Subhash Velingkar 4 02.03.2006 Hindu, Hindustanantuch Fonddamenttolistt? Are Hindus, fundamentalists in India itself? Subhash Velingkar 4 Besides these, everyThursday by Subhash Velingkar and every Sunday Adv. Uday Bhembre [ who writes a column called Pimpoll Peddar ] the Sunaparant readers get two weekly doses of communalism and Rightist extremism. The Editor of Sunaparant and former student leader, Sandesh Prabhudessai, knows it. The owner of Sunaparant, Dattaraj Salgaocar, knows it. The Advisor to the Sunaparant, Datta Naik, knows it. Who cares for the common man and the Bhandari Samaj? Industrialists, Mine-owners [using Estado do India mining concessions even today!] are the true successors of Timmaji Camotim and Mhal Pai Vernekar."Principal" Subhash Velingakar does with words what his ancestors did in deeds. I need not spell it out. He knows it too well. Viva Goa. Mog asumdi. Miguel
[Goanet] Waiting to Catch the Train to Freedom (Preetu Nair)
WAITING TO CATCH THE TRAIN TO FREEDOM! BY PREETU NAIR Preetu_nair at gomantaktimes.com MARGAO STATION: In March 2002, Gujarat burnt as bloodthirsty mobs attacked homes and killed innocent people. In March 2006, Goa is burning. Hundreds of people from the minority community are rendered homeless and jobless. The politics of hate is slowly threatening to erupt the fabric of a harmonious society and robust democracy that Goans have always been proud of. Scared that people who wrongly justified the burning of vehicles, destruction of shops and homes, all owned by the Minority community, by saying that armed people came from Bhatkal and Hubli, would also harm them without any rhyme or reason, they are leaving the state, which was their home for long. At 3.25 pm, the Margao railway station is packed with women in burkha, their children and men, all waiting to board Jan Shatabdi express bound for Mangalore. Somehow their scared and agonized looks were more chilling than the event itself. They were scared to talk and appeared withdrawn. There was shock and gloom prevailing all over. Well, they can't be really blamed, after all their homes were destroyed by the very people they knew. They also never thought that the homes of friends and neighbours would be shut for them during the riots due to fear of a backlash. As violence flared up in Curchorem and Sanvordem and politicians slowly made it an insider-outsider issue (to quote Leader of Opposition Manohar Parrikar: Heavy influx of migrants to the state was the cause of creation of social tension and disharmony), it has left a feeling of fear and mistrust. "We have been living in Goa since last 20 years and had a small shop at Curchorem. The mob dragged us out of the house and burnt our house. They destroyed our shop. We came to Goa to earn a living, not to spread communal disharmony. It hurts that even after living here for 20 years, we still can't call Goa our home," said a person who was boarding the train to go to his hometown Bhatkal, who didn't wish to be named. Just as the train arrived at the platform at 3.32 pm, they eagerly boarded the train. Once in the train, they removed the burkha, breathed some fresh air and smiled in relief as they set out on a new journey. (ENDS) == The above article appeared in the March 6, 2006 edition of Gomantak Times, Goa
[Goanet] Re: churchill and Navy [March 5]
I would venture to say that it 'IS' civilian to the core this present day -- but for a sustained 'veneer' of military trappings. Why was the runway expanded from 6000 feet to about 10,000 feet? Why was night operation provided if the military claims (surprisingly) this was not really needed by them? However, one would have to agree with the military that Dabolim is "grossly underutilised" since at present it is largely being used for STOL/VTOL aircraft "commuting" between the shore and the aircraft carrier on "training" missions for 5 hours every day! Cheers!
[Goanet] RE: (Direct To Home TV) or DTH TV -- some more info
On which of the systems/channels does one get Goa TV news IN THE UK e.g. Goa Plus, Goa News, Goa 365 etc etc.? [This is a second attempt to get this information!]
[Goanet] Alumni networks... Goa
Some of the schools covered in alumni networks from Goa. Check if yours is there: http://tinyurl.com/fa9eo High School Classmates Click on the district - village/town that contains the secondary school you wish to view: North Goa - Aldona North Goa - Bambolim North Goa - Bandora North Goa - Bardez North Goa - Bicholim North Goa - Calangute North Goa - Calapor North Goa - Candolim North Goa - Carapur North Goa - Chimbel North Goa - Colvale North Goa - Curti North Goa - Goa Velha North Goa - Guirim North Goa - Mapusa North Goa - Pale North Goa - Panaji North Goa - Parcem North Goa - Penha-de-Franca North Goa - Pernem North Goa - Ponda North Goa - Queula North Goa - Raibandar North Goa - Reis Magos North Goa - Saligao North Goa - Sanquelim North Goa - Satari North Goa - Siolim North Goa - Socorro (Serula) North Goa - Tiswadi North Goa - Valpoi South Goa - Aquem South Goa - Benaulim South Goa - Canacona South Goa - Chicalim South Goa - Chinchinim South Goa - Cortalim South Goa - Cuncolim South Goa - Curchorem Cacora South Goa - Davorlim South Goa - Margao South Goa - Mormugao South Goa - Navelim South Goa - Quepem South Goa - Raia South Goa - Salcete South Goa - Sancoale South Goa - Sanguem South Goa - Sanvordem South Goa - Sao Jose-de-Areal South Goa - Varca
[Goanet] JAIPUR POWERS AHEAD!
http://autofeed.msn.co.in/pandorav3/output/Travel/a692d97f-521a-48f0-b889-17 0dae837945.aspx Jaipur attracting more chartered flights Source: IANS. Image Source: incredibleindia.org Jaipur, March 6: Rajasthan's main airport here is now attracting chartered flights from across the world, bringing in tourists to the pink city. "Ever since the central government granted international status to Sanganer airport, the number of chartered planes has gone up dramatically," said a senior official of the Airports Authority of India (AAI) here. The international status was given Dec 29. Since then, the number of private planes landing at the airport has gone up by an estimated 50 percent, AAI sources said. On an average, about a dozen chartered planes from other parts of India as well as abroad land at the airport every day. Indian Airlines has also been operating international flights from here to Dubai and Bangkok since February 2002. Considering the increase in air traffic, plans are on to increase the parking space for planes, official sources said. While there are five parking lots at the airport, authorities are considering adding five more parking lots. Rajasthan, with its rich history and culture, majestic forts and palaces, is a premier tourist destination for both domestic and foreign travellers. The increased air traffic is good news for the tourism sector. "It is good to note that more and more chartered planes are coming to Jaipur. I feel that it would certainly give a push to tourism," said Sanjay Kaushik of Rajputana Holiday Makers, a tourist agency. Rajasthan had recorded a 55 percent increase in foreign tourist arrivals in 2004, compared to a national figure of 25 percent. The numbers for 2005 too were very encouraging. "According to preliminary estimates, the state received 20 million domestic and 1.2 million foreign tourists in 2005," a tourism department official said. Looks like Goa wll be left standing at this rate of progress at Jaipur! UTT GOEMKARS!
Fwd: Re: [Goanet] Re: churchill and Navy - correction
> Sorry, all Goans were "forced" to become Indians > when > the Indian Armed Forces invaded Goa. And all that to > win Mr. K Menon enough votes to win the Feb 1962 > elections - nothing to do with "liberating" Goa. > "Charter or no charter, Goa will belong to India" I > understand he said, to the UN security council, when > India took action contrary to the UN charter that > India had signed just eleven months earlier. Now > was > that a request by Goans, or a bombastic declaration > by > K Menon? The statement was incorrectly put and the person who said it too was incorrectly stated by me. Below is a correction: "[The invasion of Goa] is a question of getting rid of the last vestiges of colonialism in India. That is a matter of faith with us. Whatever anyone else may think, Charter or no Charter, Council or no Council, that is our basic faith which we cannot afford to give up at any cost." - C.S. Jha, Indian delegate to the Security Council, December 8, 1961. http://www.uvt.nl/faculteiten/frw/onderwijs/studeren/buitenland/bachelor/InternationaleWeek/defiance.pdf My apologies on this error. Gabriel de Figueiredo. ___ On Yahoo!7 Desperate Housewives: Sneak peeks, recaps and more. http://www.yahoo7.com.au/desperate-housewives
[Goanet] RE: Organised religion
Gabriel, Where do the cows' souls go to after they have become hamburgers? Oh, yes ... they don't have souls, do they? Or at least not the same TYPE of souls that humans have that float over to the afterworld through the next birth. But if mammals all evolved from a common ancestor (as proven by common DNA sequences) then they either ALL must have souls or none have souls. Which is it? - Quoted from your holyspiritinteractive site... http://www.holyspiritinteractive.net/columns/jackmcardle/comehere/07.asp Jesus' strongest condemnations were reserved for religious people. He called them hypocrites, and he said they were like white marble tomb-stones, beautiful on the outside, but full of rottenness underneath. He condemned them for being more interested in a cup being clean on the outside, while, inside it could be dirty, and badly stained. He really drew the anger of religious people, and he knew that they sought every opportunity to oppose him, and trip him up. He frightened them, because if they lost their great emphasis on laws and religious practices, they had no further reason for living. Religious people are totally opposed to change, because, to do so is to admit that what they have been doing up till now was not perfect. There is a degree of insecurity about religious people, because of this fear of change. "To live is to change, and to become perfect is to have changed often," said Cardinal Newman. We are a pilgrim people, and, just as the scenery and surroundings change, as I travel along on a pilgrimage, so does life, and the way of looking at things. We are in process, in a state of constant change. Kevin Saldanha Mississauga, ON. Original message: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:30:30 +1100 (EST) From: Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] RE: Organized religion <> We can argue and argue till the cows come home, but we will really have to pass through the next birth before we'll have any idea what it's all about. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
[Goanet] Communalizing Goa....now violently ;-(
Dears, Those who forget their history are bound to see it recurr in their own lifetime. In Goa we are seeing a recurrence within 15 months. The only difference this time is that they have targetted a community that reacts, instead of a community that just dithers. Bingo! This is what I wrote on 19 December, 2004, after the abortive attempt by the Manohar Parrikar-led regime to screen the infamous VCD of the Education Dept. 'GOA'S FREEDOM STRUGGLE' in predominantly Church run primary and secondary schools. It holds good today also when Sanvordem-Curchorem is souldering and Ponda, Shiroda, Cuncolim or Margao may ignite. Warning has been served by the BJP by organizing benami bandhs on Monday 06 March, 2006. As usual, expect the GOA POLICE to be caught napping and even to treat the riots like we treat footballas a spectator event. A major part of the Goa Police constables were BJP recruited from its cadres and sympathisers or those who bought their appointment letters from the Congress leaders. In either case, there is no incentive to act. the IPS officers come to Goa on a holiday, it seems. I am yet to hear of one of them lead from the front..as the fiery lady Kiran Bedi,IPS, did at Turkman Gate-Delhi. If the IPS cops in Goa got guts, they must be stashed in some safe deposit locker in Delhi for later use. Pansies would react with greater forceand conviction. ..original posting... From: Miguel Braganza "The Goa BJP's priority is apparently in bastardizing history so much that it does not tell it like it was printed in the Goa Government's publications and school textbooks issued by the very same Directorate of Education. I quote from " HISTORY & CIVICS Standard Five" text book issued by the "Directorate of Education Governement of Goa" in 2002 [ i.e.under the same BJP dispensation in Goa]which my son currently studies in a school aided by the Government of Goa. I quote from the text verbatim [ 'all capitals" for emphasis' mine] from page5 Quote "Chapter 2 EARLY RULERS-II. GOA UNDER THE VIJAYNAGAR AND BADAMI RULE: In the 14th century, Goa was a great trading centre. It imported good quality horses from Persia and Arabia. These horses were in great demand in the Deccan. The rulers of both,Vijaynagar and Badami were at war with each other. Both wanted Goa mainly because of the HORSE TRADE. So Goa was at different times OCCUPIED by the rulers of Vijay nagar and Badami. GOA UNDER BIJAPUR: Yusuf Adil Shah brought Goa into the Kingdom of Bijapur. He was a powerful ruler. He encouraged agriculture , art and literature. He was TOLERANT to all religions.Under him, Hindus were given religious freedom. Some of them were given high civil and military posts. Yusuf Adil Shah developed the PORT OF GOA by constructing a main road from the jetty of River Mandovi at OLD GOA right up to the PALACE of Adil Shah [present Secretariat] for trade and commerce. The PORT of Old Goa later became the capital city under Portuguese rule. Unquote Chapter-3 has this to say. Quote. After 1498, Portugal sent fleets to India from time to time, to keep the spice trade of the MALABAR under Portuguese control. One of these fleets was under AFONSO DE ALBUQUERQUE, who had a dream of establishing a Portuguese empire in the East. CONQUEST OF GOA Afonso de Albuquerque had heard of the importance of Goa's location on the West coast of India. He felt that the conquest of Goa would strengthen the Portuguese rule over the Arabian Sea. TIMMAYA, the Admiral of the Vijaynagar fleet, INVITED him to free the Hindu population from the unbearable rule of Bijapur at Goa. On March1,1510, Albuquerque sailed up the river Mandovi, captured and looted ships at Goa harbour. No one opposed him. Two months later, Ismail Adil Shah, King of Bijapur, sent a large army to Goa. It drove the Portuguese into the sea. Unquote. This book is available at all bookshops dealing with school text books for less than Rs.20/-. It may be nice if the Director of Education, the high profile Deputy Director of Education [Vocational ] Shri Anil V.Powar and the self-styled educationist honoured at the behest of his guru [Murli Manohar Joshi ] Shri Subhash Velingkar, read the official history. Still better, they could read an unbiased view fo history in INSIDE GOA written by acclaimed author Manohar Mulgaokar and the first edition published by the Government of Goa,Daman & Diu in 1982.THE REASON why the second edition [in May 2004] was REFUSED this patronage [when Rs.40 lakhs could be spent on the VCD film] by the Goa Government may need an application under the RIGHT TO INFORMATION ACT. The author only alludes to this in his note in a way only refined writers can. The book is available at Braodway,Panaji, for just Rs.695/- I have had the pleasure of reading this wonderful book and to review it for the GOA TRAVELLER and EXPO PLUS of the Diamond Publications,Panaji. Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: Communaliz
[Goanet] Outsider syndrome
There comes a time in the life of a nation, especially when that nation is on her way up economically as well as militarily, when Toms Dicks and Harrys of that nation think that they have the potential to occupy the highest political position of the land. Then there are pulls and counterpulls galore in the political life and politicians have little or no time to devote their energies for the welfare and further development of the nation. They are busy at intrugue and try to pull down the crab in the basket that has almost reached the top, not that this particular crab has not used the same tactics to reach the top. It is precisely at this moment in the life of a nation that nature blesses the land with a political leader who is not exactly a native of that land but circumstances conspire to make him/her acceptable to the political elites. And lo and behold! the nation under this particular leader reaches the pinnacle of power and glory as a result of all political leaders making peace among themselves and working in an unison manner. There are historical precedents of this kind of political elevation. Alexander the Great ( 356 - 323 BC ) , the son of Macedonian king Philip who became the ruler of Greece and extended her boundaries up to the river Indus of the Indian sub-continent. Kublai Khan ( 1729 -1796 ), the grandson of Mongol Genghis Khan became Emperor of a powerful and prosperous China. Catherine the Great ( 1729 - 1776 ) a daughter of a minor German princeling married the Grand Duke Peter of Russia. After the premature death of her husband ,she became Tsarina, an effective ruler of Russia and extended her boundaries as they exist today. Napoleon Bonaparte (1768 - 1821 ) was an Italian speaking military officer in the French army from the island of Corsica who became the greatest emperor France has ever had. Kemal Ataturk (1881 - 1938 ) the father of modern Turkey was born in Salonika Greece. Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945 ) was born to an Austrian custom official and had continental Europe at his feet by 1943 i.e. befor the Battle of Stalingrad. Stalin ( 1879 - 1953 himself was not an ethnic Russian. He was the son of a Georgian ( a Transcaucasian Republic just north of Turkey ) cobbler who aspired to be a Christian priest but was expelled from the seminary for indulging in socialist propaganda. Under his tutelage, Soviet Union became one of the only two superpowers of the world. Has the time come for India to have such a leader ? Only the future will tell. But at this point in time , this much can be said that in the sixties when the grandson of Jawahar s/o Motilal came to Britain for higher studies, he met a lovely Italian lass from Torino by the name of Miss Antonia Maino. He fell in love with her, married her according to the Indian traditions and her name was change to Sonia. antonio
[Goanet] Introducing author Sonia Faleiro
Sonia Faleiro is originally from Goa and is living in Bombay. She is writing a series of articles called The Other Half which addresses the issues facing domestic help in India. Sonia is also a published author. http://www.soniafaleiro.com/ http://www.soniafaleiro.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - Marsachi 7vi, 2006!
Sotak torsadin jivexim marunk zainam nam kaidean kaddun uddovnk zainam. (Truth cannot be killed with the sword nor abolished by law.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
[Goanet] My first death threat
I received my first death threat, presumably, for something I posted on Goanet. Some guy warned me to get ready to meet my Creator. He said further that today is the only time I have to reflect on my life, that I may never get another chance, and that I should think and be prepared. So I went to see Rang de Basanti. And I have thought, and I am prepared as well as Bismil. I say with glee writ on my face: "Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaray dil meiN hai, dekhna hai zor kitna baazuay qaatil meiN hai" Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Portuguese Passports - final
--- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Gabriel, surely you know that there are some Goans > > who > > are more Portuguese than the original Portuguese. > > Besides, as you have said, the coconut is a > > wonderful > > nut, which fills our fragrant curries with > > cholesterol. So, what's the problem? > > --- Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It was never my problem. In view of your change of > position, I ask, what is yours, all of a sudden? > Sour grapes? :-)) > Mario observes: > Gabriel, You seem to be having comprehension problems. Perhaps you are unaware of what cholesterol can do and coconuts are a heart attack in a nut :-)) > I rarely change positions without new evidence and I have seen no new evidence that Portugal is anything but a lovely, backward, somnolent European country, with friendly, affectionate and generally color-blind people, who nevertheless colonized Goa by force, held onto it for 450 long years, spent virtually nothing on development, exploited the heck out of it, and overstayed their welcome way after the rest of the civilized world had declared the era of colonialization over. Time to move on. > India and Goa may be a mess in your opinion, but it's not Portugal's mess - they left their own mess behind in 1961. You need to read the most recent issue of Newsweek to see why Goa is now part of a budding economic powerhouse rather than a struggling European country. > Now, if they could only address their inadequate roads, transportation, electrical, water and sanitation systems, mindless political corruption and bureaucracy, and get their people to stop throwing garbage on other people's property and stop urinating and defecating in public and spitting all over the place, maybe they will actually make it to superpower status :-)) >
[Goanet] Tiatr Tiatr, non -stop Tiatr (schedule for March/April -Korezmant/Paskant)
Suka fukam koxtam kantte by Comedian Domnic Ponnje Mars 12 Duk nastana sukh nam by Anthony sylvester, ponnje on Mars 25 Korench hanv fatim paulom by Minin de bandar, ponnje Mars 12, Moddgonv 22 Sezapai by Star of Curtorim Vasco Mars 10, Moddgonv 11, Mapxem 12 & Ponnje 26 Aslelim Dukhi Naslelim Sukhi by Comedian Agustin Moddgonv Mars 12, Ponnje 15 Padri Film 2 shows each Mapxem Mars 11, 12, Ponnje 19 (both in Tiatra holant) Releasing Soon/Easter (16th April): Sotor Pautti Sat (70 times 7) by Mini Mario Tanchem Chintat Tivium Munxam by Mario Menezes Hem Natem Devachem by Anil- Olga Maim Maim by Minin de bandar Razvottki by Prince Jacob Jinn (Life) by John D silva === Mention JoeGoaUk and get 3% discount (Ticket Rs.60 per head) [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ for Goa & Goa Flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa ___ Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Aeroplane for Sale
Yes, aeroplane for sale not on ebay or US or UK but in Goa Aeroplane for sale Rs.2,12,000 only. Contact: 2733276 or 9881232824 The above unsual small advert appeared in Herald (in classified Adverts columns-Monday). Dont know if this is a real aeroplane or toy aeroplane. If it is real one or even if it is junk plane, I would defitely like to buy for that price and keep it in my vast front garden. Can any one find out more from Goa ? I have been trying from here but phones found engaged all the time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ for Goa & Goa Flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa ___ Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] RE: Organized religion
Be patient, Kevin. You will find out soon enough whether Santosh is right or not. In the meantime, keep up your "more atheist than thou" routine. > --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is exactly why the 'learned' high priests of > every religion treated > their devotees like mushrooms... 'kept in the dark > and fed manure' (with > apologies to John Allegro ;-). With knowledge comes > power, and that power > can be misused by a few claiming to have 'higher' > knowledge. > > The days of claiming ignorance are over. With > information available all > around us, it is sheer laziness for us not to go out > and 'eat of the tree > of Knowledge' to form our own opinions. However, > busy as we all are, it is > much easier to spend an hour on the weekend > listening to some emotionally > manipulative stories from the pulpit and partaking > in cannibalistic rituals. > > "If Santosh is wrong" is the typical doubt that is > implanted subconciously > in every 'religious type' to keep them praying and > tithing to their > respective gods. > > Kevin Saldanha > > > will > have wasted is some time and money, which, hopefully > we will have spent gladly if we understood anything > about our religion. > > > However, if Santosh is wrong, then I don't think I > would want to be in his shoes.> > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > >
[Goanet] 'RANE AND PARRIKAR ARE BOTH CRIMINALS' Victims of Sanvordem (Preetu Nair)
'RANE AND PARRIKAR ARE BOTH CRIMINALS' Victims of Sanvordem When Godhra happened, Gujarat had a BJP government. Goa is ruled by a party Muslims trusted blindly till they were blinded last Friday. Does anyone care to listen to the voice of the Muslims in Sanvordem and Curchorem? This is their verdict. You want to know why? Here's why. Nighar Agha was asked to leave her rented house by her landlady cos she was forced to by Hindu mobs. She ran away with her 4-year-old daughter with a heart problem. Seeing her run, the mob snatched away the medicine bag of her daughter. She could have died running from the mob. Noorjah Sheikh broke her back but managed to cover the mouths of her children so that they didn't shout, Sheikh Rafiq locked himself and his family, but the mob came, broke his garage and damaged both his cars and 2 of his shops. The Sheikh brothers screamed out to the police to help when eight of their shops were ransacked and looted. Not a single policeman came forward. We looked for these victims in Sanvordem, Curchorem, Margao and at the Margao railway station to present voices that would have otherwise been numbed By Preetu Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] MARGAO/SANVORDEM /CURCHOREM: It was the greatest test of endurance for Nighar Agha last Friday. The images of the riots will haunt her forever. Living alone in a rented house at Sanvordem, Nigar has three little kids. Her husband is in the Gulf and her four-year-old daughter has a heart problem and is easily susceptible to infection. "On that unfortunate day, my daughter got an eye infection and fever. I was scared and worried about her health. Though I wanted to take her to the hospital, I couldn't and her condition worsened. In the morning, our landlady, a Catholic, came to my help. She took my daughter to the hospital. But when she returned, she advised me to vacate the house as people from the majority community in the area were threatening to attack us," she recollects and pauses. Taking a deep breath, she again continues with the horrors she underwent on Saturday afternoon. "Along with some boys, who had taken shelter in my house, and children, I walked to my brothers' house as no one was ready to give us lift and it was impossible for my brothers to enter Sanvordem. Four boys lifted my ill daughter and we walked for nearly 6 km, when a mob surrounded us and abused us. One man snatched the bag containing my daughter's medicine and threw it in the field. They beat two boys and said, "We will ensure that you people are not able to raise your head for atleast another 10 years". When I pleaded and cried, they allowed us to go." 57-year-old Noorjah Sheikh still squirms in pain. "We were scared and helpless. When we heard that mobs were attacking our homes, we armed ourselves with the masalas and utensils. But when they started pelting stones and shouting slogans we got scared. So I rushed upstairs in the dark (they didn't switch on the light that night) to collect some sticks but lost my balance and hurt my back and neck. Though in pain, I didn't scream, lest the mob heard my cry. I was scared for the lives of the young children at home. I was really scared and helpless," she reveals. She admits that it is shocking that majority of people from the mob were people whom they knew, if not by name, but atleast by face. Revealing his tale of woes, Sheikh Rafiq from Sanvordem reveals that he was at the mosque when he got message that homes and shops of minority community were being ransacked. So he rushed home to be with his family of 10. "I locked the door from outside. We switched off the lights and were too scared to even breathe. Around 8 pm, we heard noises and a mob of youngsters approaching our home with torch, shouting "Jai Mahadev". They broke open the garage and destroyed two cars, while I stood near my window as a hapless and speechless spectator. We were so scared that women held the mouth of our children, lest they make any noise," he revealed. Questioning the role of police in the communal riot, he said, "I called DIG Ujjwal Mishra for help. He promised to send help, but then cut the line without taking the address. The police never came. Late in the night, we along with the women and children in our neighborhood (around 20 persons) escaped in their Maruti van to my brother's house in Margao." Sheikh Brothers, who own nearly 10 shops in Sanvordem reveal that eight of their shops were completely destroyed by the mob, homes attacked and vehicles destroyed and burnt. "Everything happened before the police and they stood their helpless as if unwilling to help us. All pleas for help fell on deaf ears," they added. Thankfully, an eye for an eye is not the motto of the minority community, who allege that just as Nero fiddled while Rome burned, in the same manner, Rane was busy attending functions even as Curchorem and Sanvordem was burning. "It is Congress government and it was t
[Goanet] DAY FOUR -- BANDH EVOKES PARTIAL/FULL RESPONSE
On day four the people of Goa awoke to a spate of rumours. There were rumours in the air about an imminent bandh but it was not clear who called for the bandh. But the first signs of things to come was when the Goa Dairy at Curti in Ponda Taluka North Goa District (but under the Mormugao Parliamentary constituency ) failed to deliver milk early morning. Then the morning bus services did come with the children teachers and workers office goers and dropped them in the Margao city most schools closed early as the skeleton bus services caused anxiety to the Managements. At Shiroda there were some road blocks and one house alleged to be stoned. But the situation was other wise peaceful and life normal. In Goa many do not risk to travel to work or school on such days of bandhs because once the public transport is not in place the autorickshaws and motorcycle pilots charge astronomical rates for the helpless. But life did appear normal as the at noon and thereafter until evening. In any case the prospects of a bandh was limited to Cuncolim and Margao until the late hours of 5th March, 2006. But at around 0800 hrs IST the first company of the Rapid Action Force police were wending through the main thoroughfare of the city of Margao with the unique siren even as school children and women looked up in surprise at their new found guests. Margao town evoked a mixed response most establishments were open and some of the prominent businessmen mainly the cloth merchants preferred to down their shutters while the main commercial market also was partially closed for the day but some shops were open. The Mahatma Gandhi Market vegetable market was open and the local councillor (brother of Manohar (Babu) Ajgaonkar r/o Margao but MLA Dhargalim) of Ward 13 earlier Ward 14 was seen at his tea shop open this gave confidence to many to keep the establishments open. The RAF was posted at strategic points in the New Market to ward off any untoward incident. Similar was the situation at Monte and Housing Board area where companies of CISF and CRP were deployed. In Cuncolim there was a bandh but buses of the KTC moved selectively . Incidentally the areas of Bali etc form a part of the Quepem Taluka and apparently since the Curchorem Cacora area also comes under the Quepem taluka the bandh. But no untoward incident was reported schools opened and closed early. The Goa Government turned belatedly wiser and put out a emergency control room : Tel Nos +91 0832 2419769, 2419472 Fax 2415201 2419657 Mobile :9850474114 9850473707 at the New Secretariat Porvorim, for the information of the public, apparently to dispel rumours. The situation at Tilamol Quepem was also calm though schools were opened they wound up by 1100 p.m. Curfew was in force in the Curchorem Cacora area but there was no untoward incidents reported and normalcy was being slowly restored as others were seen cleaning the wreckage and completing the panchanama formalities. There was some respite after the Government announced the compensation for all those affected by the arson looting and violence destruction to property. Many blame the Chief Minister Mr Pratapsing Raoji Rane who also as the Home Minister ought to have nipped the issue at the beginning when one group obtained the stay order and the others retaliated taking law in their hands. But the CM has never been known to act quickly as is his style of functioning believing that if he sits on files the issues would be solved by themselves. This time it rebounded and this creates more heartburning especially this being an emotive issue many expected him to act fast. The difference of opinion of the Police and the Administration also led to the confusion. There were others who felt that the elected representatives who should be at the helm of affairs considering their government is in power were nowhere to be seen nor could be contacted on their mobiles. This made it a free for all. Many agreed this is not time to debate as to who is responsible but clearly what followed was an organised attack selectively. Being the first of its kind post 1986 language agitation, many subscribe to the view that the Government should indeed come forth with a policy on setting up of religious sites. This has become big business of all communities to collect funds for building places of worship and hence a policy needs to be put in place. For the moment with immediate effect all powers should be placed in the hands of the Chief Secretary or the Secretary (Home) to decide on grant of permission to put up an religious establishment. There is a need for a consensus to demolish or relocate all those that encroach private or public properties. The Government should begin a dialogue with the religious authorities at once. Meanwhile an advertisement released on the local dailies in public interest stated that " a mosque was damaged " at Guddemol this is incorrect as this writer visited the the site Guddemol and
[Goanet] THE EARLY DAYS OF FIRE, MATCHBOX AND FI REWOOD Part II (Final)
The early days of fire, matchbox and firewood - Part II (Final) Children who went to school in those days, did not really enjoy their summer holidays because there was a lot of work to be done, as monsoon provision was made during the months of April and May in those days it almost always rained by the mid of May every year! In the olden days, there was no radio or TV which broadcasted the days weather so one could chalk out his/her plans for the day accordingly. Everything depended on the Mother Nature the sun, the moon and the sea. When it was time for the monsoon season, the sea would start to roar and the roaring would keep on increasing; thus, the people knew that the monsoon season was fast approaching. People may not have been highly educated then but they knew how to take care of day-to-day activities and planned them quite meticulously. One of the first things that people did was to gather kholieo (dried leaves) and packed them in a zabllo (a round net with diagonal holes about 4Wx6L); they packed as many zablle as they could fill and stored them. The next thing was either to cut the tips of chuddttam or detach dried leaves from a chuddet with a koito (machete), arrange them into small bundles and then tie them up with a fresh keimeacho gabo (a pealing from banana tree trunk). Similarly, we would cut pidde (coconut tree frond heads) into two pieces lengthwise, dry them and then arrange them into small bundles. Also, maddachi pistori (sheath - the lower part of coconut tree leaf that surrounds the stem) and maddachi poi (spathe) are very good to start a fire. These items, too, were arranged in bundles and stored. As for xirputtam, people gathered as much as they could and the rest they brought from the hills. Once the month of April began, people from the ward, including children, got together and went on the hill to collect firewood; they went in groups so nobody could attack them, as in those days, professional robbers lived in caves on Anjuna hills. Even if one had money, he/she had to join in the trip to the hill because in those days everything was done in groups; if anyone refused, that person would be counted out for all purposes. For example, people did not charge wages to work in the fields but they worked in each others fields by taking turns and thus provided free service to each other, but if anyone backed out, he/she was kind of excommunicated; this happened very rarely. The unity in a village in those days was very good and strong; unlike today, nobody could separate relatives and neighbors then. People mostly went on the hill in the afternoon say at around 4:00 p.m. and returned home by 6:30 p.m. The tools that they carried with them while they went on the hill to collect firewood were a koito - to cut the trees, and a koiti (sickle) - to trim branches, and, of course, a large piece of cloth to make a chomddi (bundle of cloth on which a load is placed on the head.) The trip was to collect only small firewood not tree trunks/logs. People mostly chose straight plants because they were easy to arrange into a bundle which also meant they could stack more firewood in a bundle and it also formed a good base for the load on the head. The most common plant that people went for was gino it is a straight plant, about 5-6 feet tall, with black bark and no branches, which means less trimming, which ultimately saves a lot of time; it makes good firewood as it burns quickly. Once on the hill, people looked around, located bushes and cut plants from the bottom with a koito; the other person trimmed branches with a koiti I did both parts; sometimes only one person did both the jobs. When we felt that enough firewood was cut to make a bundle, we stopped cutting and headed to a kombieachem zadd to peal off its skin in order to prepare ropes; kombieacho gabo is very strong. We would join two or three lengths of gabe together and place them horizontally on the ground at a distance of about 1 ½ foot from each other. We would then arrange the cut firewood into a pile on four or more lengths; the length of each bundle was about 7 feet. Lastly, each person would stand on either side of the pile, catch hold of gabo at each end, pull both the ends in opposite directions, secure the pile tightly, fasten the gabo with a knot and tuck extra ends around the fastened gabo. Those who came alone would call for help from others. Each such bundle was called a bhoro or bhori. Once firewood bundles were ready, people loaded them on each ones head with a chomddi underneath. The last person had to lift his/her bhoro by himself/herself. He/she touched one end of the bhoro to a rock, placed his/her head in the middle of the bhoro and then slowly pushed it upward thus tilting the equilibrium and balancing the bundle on the head. The koito and koiti were pressed into the bhoro on the top side. Many local women
Re: [Goanet] Re: Organized religious chauvinism
--- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is quite amusing to witness this twisting and > turning to maintain that the morality of organized > religions such as Communistic Atheism, the Hindutva > religion and the religions of bush and ahmadinejad, > is > better than that of unorganized religions such as > the > folk religions of India, and the individualism and > rationalism of religious and non-religious folk. > Mario observes: > The above assertion by Santosh is false. > Santosh is far from amused when he begins to resort to his relentless obfuscations and misrepresentations of what someone else has said, as he has tried once again in his comments above. > The point that has been made by me is that organized religions provide their followers with some universal moral compass. Disorganized atheists have to devise moral compasses of their own which can be whatever they want it to be. I have repeatedly said that these can be better or not than those provided by organized religions. I have also said that having a moral compass is no guarantee of anything. Know this when you read his comments above, which are plainly false in the proper context. >
[Goanet] New book on Goa by Dr. Renato Gracias
Dr. Renato Gracias, of Loutalim and Pune, at 94 one of the most distinguished of all living Goans, has just published a new book on Goa called "A GOAN CRUCIBLE OF MEMORIES - Dedicated to the nuclear generation" The book is a personal eye-witness account of Goa's history, culture, society, religions, transition from Portuguese to Indian, food, drink, and music, written in a succinct 120 pages. It is written especially for those of us, and especially our children, whose knowledge of these aspects and details of Goa may be lacking or incomplete. The book is priced at only Rs. 100, plus shipping costs, and is available from the Pune Goan Institute, better known as the PGI, by e-mailing it's General Secretary, Mr. Savio Mascarenhas, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goans in India can also call Mr. Mascarenhas on his mobile phone at 989084 or the PGI Manager, Mr. Suraj Singh at 26137189. The area code for Pune is 20. Goans in the US or Canada can e-mail me to buy a few copies that Dr. Gracias, a lifelong family friend, gave me to sell for him. He has also requested that Goanet members publicize this new book on other Goan cyber-forums and Goan associations that they may belong to. To those unfamiliar with Dr. Gracias, he was born in Loutolim on January 28, 1912. He is a graduate of St. Xavier's College and Grant Medical College in Mumbai. After serving in the Indian Army Medical Corp, he joined the Municipal Corporation of Pune in 1952, rising to Medical Officer of Health, and retiring in 1970. He is an expert in Infectious diseases and a prolific writer on medical subjects in medical journals. He was honored by the Vatican and awarded the "Pro eclesia et Pontifica" and a Papal Knighthood for his social service. He has been President of India Catholic Association, President of St. Luke's Medical Guild, President of the Catholic Credit Society, President of the Pune Goan Institute and a member of the Congress Party Executive Committee. He was consulted by Mother Theresa before she started her ministry in Pune, and advised her to inform the police before she started picking the sick and destitute off the streets, which she did, thus avoiding charges of religious exploitation. He was subsequently awarded the Mother Theresa distinguished service award in October 2005.
Re: [Goanet] NO concession on lack of evidence
The evidence so far is that St. FX's body was not preserved in any manner after he died and while he was moved to Goa. He was not a saint when he died so there was no reason to treat his body any differently that anyone else's. It is Santosh and the other atheist cynics who have been making a series of baseless and sly insinuations, without any evidence to back up their calumnies. Now that I have challenged them to ask for permission to conduct modern forensic tests on St. FX's remains, and supported conducting such tests, Santosh has switched to some cynical insinuation that WE need to provide THEM with evidence. WE don't need to do anything of the sort. Our religion doesn't depend on one saint or another, as Santosh apparently believed. > --- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >I don't even know if someone has asked for > permission > >and been rejected, as you have slyly insinuated > without >providing us with any evidence. > > > > Very good! Finally, we have an admission that > "anyone" > has not provided any evidence on SFX in this forum. > > Cheers, > > Santosh > >
Re: [Goanet] GOA FOR GOANS!
I just returned from Goa - no sign of any communal riots. It is perfectly safe to live there, even with all those diabolical "Indians" who are pouring into Goa, while you Portuguese Goans live elsewhere and pretend to be interested in Goa. From Vagator to Palolem Goa was booming with economic activity. Why don't you return to Goa and lead the Goa for Goans campaign? Then someone may take you seriously and you may be able to achieve your goal. > --- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Bernardo, > > My facts are far straighter than your facts, about > > Goa > > and anything connected with your curious "Goa for > > Goans" campaign while living safely in the UK. > > > > > Mario, > > Are you saying that it is unsafe to live in Goa > because of the recent communal riots? Thanks for the > advice. > > BC > > > > ___ > > NEW Yahoo! Cars - sell your car and browse thousands > of new and used cars online! > http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/ > >
[Goanet] 10th March FRIDAY BALCAO:Encroachments on Roads and Open Spaces
-- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO Read the Balcao Synopsis on the website http://www.goadesc.org/balcao/ -- Dear Cybergaokars on Goanet, We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO on 10th March from 4pm. to 6pm. at Goa Desc Resource Centre No. 11, Liberty Apartments, Feira Alta, Mapusa Goa. TOPIC: Encroachments on Roads and Open Spaces: finding solutions for Goa. SPEAKERS: Open Discussion We invite you to express your viewpoint by attending the Friday Balcao event but if you cannot attend, then please send your views and action plan suggestions by post to FRIDAY BALCAO Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507 or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes, Roland Martins -- Don't miss out on the discussion. Information is power, Share it equitably. Lets make things happen in Goa !! -- = GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org - Working On Issues Of Development & Democracy = -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 2/28/2006
[Goanet] Some feedbacks from readers on the novel, "The Sixth Night"
Some feedbacks from readers on the novel, "The Sixth Night" Heres the feedback from readers of the novel, "The Sixth Night" from the Toronto area. One Canadian reader said she was amazed how the author thought about the name Lusindia of one of the characters in the novel. That was smart and original, she pointed out and wouldnt rule out the possibility that some Goans might name their new-born "Lusindia", a name non-existent so far. By the way "Lusindia" is the combination of Lusitania (old name for Portugal) + India], an apt name for the name of the child born out of wedlock between an Indian woman and a Portuguese man. The same reader couldnt believe the adoptive parents of Lusindia, who lived in Belgaum at the time would give in so easily and give her up to Carlos, the natural father from Portugal. Also she was thinking the main character Linda would die accidentally in the life of the novel to maybe fulfill the destiny (The Sixth Night) included in her book of life, which of course was not disclosed in the book, but then she said that wouldnt be a happy ending after all that hard struggle and so she was happy with the current ending. Another reader thought this was a real story and asked 'Where does Linda live in Toronto, right now'? She also said that another main character Heidi deserved an accidental death on the Autobahn for her evil deeds. Another Canadian reader said she could follow the entire novel even with those Konkani words, whose meanings were well connected to the story and explained implicitly. She said she felt comfortable reading the Catholic way of life in Goa as she herself was Catholic. But she laughed that the first part of the book delved a lot into the food culture of Goa. She said it was all about food, food and food and celebrations and said that Goans were a very happy-go- lucky kind of people! Another Canadian reader said it was a very interesting book giving lessons in history and geography and that by now she knows a lot about Goa and life in general there and that she would like to visit it soon. And heres one more feedback I saw it on goacom BBS website under Entertainment Section that says it all (by Sebastian). *** Posted by Sebastian on goacom BBS : Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:26 am Post subject: The Sixth Night by Silviano Barbosa A must read romantic historical fiction for all interested in Goan Catholic culture. This joyous epic follows four generations of the Cardoso family of South Goa around the globe and throughout war, lost love, tragedy and all the important events of life. The narrative is visually descriptive and goes beyond the visual imagery of Toronto, London and Bombay and Goa. The lavish descriptions of the smells and foods give you a real experience of being there. The backdrops of the remarkable churches, beaches and pre-eminent schools of Goa fill your mind with images as you read a remarkable story of generations of love and live. You understand the parents of the main character Linda, you feel real empathy for their hard work and losses because of the day to day details of such an exotic life described by the author. The surprising villain has an astonishing life too. An odd sort of war breaks out that the people of Goa did not want or benefit from or even where involved in other that the fact that the war was over Goa. The disruption and timing of the war could not have been worse for the books heroine. The good and bad of Goan culture affect this girl throughout her formative years. She is shunned because of her ethnic caste but she excels in school and is a good person. Linda makes here way with some luck and much hard work to become a success. At the end of the book you feel really positive and happy for the main character who losses her father and one great love only to make her life brilliant enough in the end to merit a documentary about her story. The historical events are so accurate and well described that you have to think that this is not a story of fiction but the real life story of an actual person. However some of the small coincidences are astonishing but not at all unbelievable like many of the things that have happened to many of us. The series of small coincidences make for a wonderful story that leave you wanting more. What will happen to the main character and child next in a new land? Whats happening to the small village overcome with tourism and oil money from countries across the oceans? This could be the beginning of a wonderful series of books that detail previously unknown stories that deserve to be told. Thank you Silvia Barbosa, you are a talented writer who is able to tie in so many world events and show the effect on the little people. ** Thats all for now. May more Goans read the novel The Sixth Night and enjoy it and learn more about our old Goa. Joe Lobo, Feb 25,
[Goanet] Local activists call for bandh today
http://oheraldo.in/node/10621 Local activists call for bandh today BY HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, MARCH 5 — Even as BJP said on Sunday that it has given no call for a Margao bandh on Monday, activists of a local Hindu organisation have called for bandhs in Cuncolim, Bali and Quepem. An earlier call for a similar bandh in Margao was put off well after midnight. Sources disclosed that police cited law and order situation in late talks with memebers of the Hindu organisation, to call off the bandh plans. Earlier, BJP leader and MLA Babu Azgaonkar called up Herald at 8.30 pm to inform that the party has not given any call for a bandh in the city. He, however, said that the party will not be responsible for any bandh enforced by individuals or groups. "The party desires peace", he said, adding that he has called upon traders in the Gandhi market to keep the market open. Meanwhile, city traders have come under one platform to oppose any plan to force a bandh tomorrow. New Madgaum Traders Association President, Vinod Shirodkar, Madgaum Gadda Traders Association chief Prashant Naik, and general traders met in the city along with like-minded citizens from all walks of life to oppose any bandh. While confusion prevailed over the bandh, the Margao police said it is not taking any chances and has taken all precautionary measures to face any emerging situation. Meanwhile, some individuals went around Cuncolim to inform the traders about a bandh on Monday. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England Comment: Goan sentiments are firmly against the move by the BJP; so now they want to distance themselves from the Bandh! Today it is the Muslims tomorrow it could be the Cristaos, beware the RSS/BJP
[Goanet] Well done, Rane, but Goa's tinderbox begs...
Well done, Rane, but Goa's tinderbox begs... By Valmiki Faleiro Even if a bit belatedly, Goa Chief Minister Pratapsing Rane displayed he can act if he has the will. His handling of the so-called *communal* flare up in Curchorem deserves praise. Had he done last Friday evening itself, when police intelligence was available, what he did March 4, a lot of damage would perhaps be averted. He visited the area, sternly warned the trouble mongers, and called in the CRPF and RAF. His cabinet resolved to compensate innocent victims. Lost innocence, however, cannot be compensated and one hopes that Time, the great healer, will. There is no doubt that the Sanvordem-Curchorem trouble was inspired, instigated and orchestrated as part of a perverse political strategy to polarize vote banks. Rane must order a judicial probe into this disturbing trend, once police formalities are over. And, more importantly, address the larger issues underlying public ire that stare Goa in the face. Like migrants, an issue which the Congress tries to push under the carpet and the BJP cleverly uses as a mask. No gainsaying that nature abhors vacuum and migrants will fill in the void left by natives. Imagine the fate of the construction industry, for example, if migrants were chased away. From unskilled labourers to shuttering carpenters, from steel bar benders to plastering masons, from plumbers to painters, from tile fitters to paving layers -- we depend almost entirely on migrants. That is the stark reality. Migrants need not be painted in a single brush. Like almost anything else in life, they too come in categories. We must be wary of those that leave social and economic friction at the local level. Of the type who ply all kinds of things on our beaches that give tourism a bad name in Goa. Or the ones who help spread malaria by day and prowl into housebreaks by night. Or the migrant vendor, who is slowly elbowing out the local counterpart... Look into any of Goa's markets. From vegetable and fruit vendors in Curchorem, to the fish vendors in Canacona, from the SPDA and Gandhi markets of Margao to the Friday market at Mapusa. In Margao, migrants actually outnumber local vendors. This has spewed social tensions. Pent-up angst showed in the manner perfectly peace-loving and sensible Goans so easily fell victim to rumour, closed their shops, took to the streets and acted almost insane in Curchorem. The problem of white-collared migrants has surfaced before. The government of Manohar Parrikar actually hounded activists of the Goa Hitrakkan Manch, sons of the soil, like how municipal staff hound local vendors who sit at odd places and refuse paying bribes (as migrants do.) There is the other issue that has full potential of easily stirring emotion: mushrooming religious structures, few of which are legitimate, several illegal and on public land. Time, for instance, was when Margao had two mosques, one Sunni, the other Agha Khani. Over years and increasing legitimate needs, two more Sunni mosques were constructed, at Chandravaddo and Sirvodem. (It is another sad, but true, story of the legitimate Muslim need for a burial ground around Margao not seeing the light of the day -- despite the willingness of the community to purchase land at market rates. Reflects badly on Goa, as a civilized place!) During the last few years, however, about a dozen mosques have sprouted all over. The Muslim segment of migrants is without doubt the smaller fraction of migrants, the bigger one being the Hindu and a minuscule one being the Christian (mostly from Kerala) -- in proportion to overall ratios in India. Despite the far larger numbers of Hindu migrants, not a single new temple has been built nor clamoured. Comparisons are odious, but these are the underlying problems that fill Goa's tinderbox. Problems that can be brushed aside only at Goa's peril. Problems that offer fertile hunting grounds to political fundamentalism that borders on lunacy. Problems that need to be addressed, by the government of the day, up front. Before Goa throws up its own Adolf Hitler. (ENDS) == The above article appeared in the March 7, 2006 edition of The Herald, Goa
Re: [Goanet] Homeschooling in Goa
--- Peter D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I'm afraid you've made a leap of logic here, so >before we make any assumptions, please help us >understand what you mean. > Peter, First, some questions for you. Are you sure you have the time to engage in discussions in Goan forums? Don't you have to study or something? By the way, who are these "us" you are referring to? How many of you homeschoolers are there on this list? The assumptions I make are based on the following facts: 1. The statistical fact that 72% of homeschooled children in the U.S. are homeschooled for religious or "moral" reasons. 2. The fact that one of the foremost organizations of the homeschooling movement, the National Home Education Research Institute, endorses the recommendation that the homeschool curriculum be evaluated from a "biblical Christian world view". For example, this is what it endorses needs to be emphasized in the Science curriculum: "Science. God created everything in six days about six thousand years ago, and there was a catastrophic worldwide flood in Noah's time. These facts guide our understanding of what we see in nature. Our use of science must also respect the sanctity of human life and reflect good stewardship of God's gifts as well as compassion toward His creatures." You can see all their recommendations at: http://www.teachinghome.com/started/basics/evaluate.cfm > >Also, share with us your knowledge of the homeschool >movement--research data will be welcomed. > My knowledge about religious and ideological movements is limited. You might want to ask others in your "us" group. Ken Ham and other young earth creationists might be able to do that better for you. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Don't be alarmed
--- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please note that my post has nothing to do with > theism > or atheism. It is simply an appeal for people to > document their lives. However, the above statement > raises the following questions. I understand your point, Santosh. But I think better than a documentation of one's life (I think that would be considered selfish), would be to do some good in this world and be remembered for that, which in effect, would be "self-documenting". > Why would someone want to commit suicide if he/she > does not believe he would go to heaven or attain > nirvana after death? Santosh, we all live in Hope. Remove Hope and you remove the will to live. I think infusion of hope is the main aim of AA and the suicide help-lines, especially as they deal with questions like "what's the point of living?" Cheers, Gabriel. ___ On Yahoo!7 Desperate Housewives: Sneak peeks, recaps and more. http://www.yahoo7.com.au/desperate-housewives
Re: [Goanet] Re: churchill and Navy
--- gilbert menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For the life of me, I cannot > understand , how our > present day ministers could be intimidated by the > Armed Forces Dear Mr. Menezes, You will never understand how present day ministers get intimidated by the Armed Forces, because you yourself were one of the Armed Forces (now retired, I presume). That is why, instead of permitting civilians to park alongside an Army depot near the Panjim Municipal market, the Panjim Municipality was forced to install a sign "No Parking By Order". Note the wording carefully as I have seen no such "By Order" on any other No Parking sign, in Panjim. And this too, after due representation was made by the then chief minister to the Chief Secretary to "keep the Armed Forces in check" (I don't have this particular news report at hand this moment). Then there were news reports (5Oct20002) as below: "The local fishermen of Bimbvel, a beach adjacent to INS Hansa, have been allegedly harassed by the navy over a decade now as the whole residential naval colony has been cordoned off, allowing no passage for the fishermen to go to their hutments on the beach. "The harassment continues in spite of all the courts, from the executive magistrate to the high court, instructing them to allow us free access and maintain a register. But they insist on issuing us passes as if we are strangers. We have been staying here much before the naval base came up", states Damaciano Dourado, the local fisherman. " So is the IN higher than the courts? I think this has been discussed in the past, and Dr. Jose Colaco also commented on it. > Lastly,Your reference to the Navy as *predators* , What else would you call someone who jumps upon a chance to grab a piece of land that did not belong to him and now refuses to budge inspite knowing of the illegality? "Warbirds of India" site says "With the Military action in 1961 against the Portugese in Goa and subsequent incorporation of Goa, Daman and Diu into the Republic of India, the Indian Navy benefitted the most with the sudden availablity of additional Port facilities. More importantly, Dabolim Air Field, was made into a center of Naval Aviation later on. Today Dabolim forms the cradle of Naval Aviation, providing training facilities as well as shore based facilities for the Naval Strike aircraft when they are not deployed among the carriers." http://www.warbirdsofindia.com/wbgoa.html "Following the Liberation of Goa in December 1961, the Indian Navy took over the Portuguese airfield at Dabolim by April 1962 and established facilities there, leading to the relocation of INS Hansa to Dabolim, in June 1964". http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/printer_432.shtml No information as to how the IN effectively took over - no contracts, requests or documentation mentioned. Just "taken over". I think I had requested you in the past for such a document - you have yet to make a pronouncement. Adjunct to the above. The airport at Dabolim was built with Goa's own funds and labour " ... as despesas com a construção destes aeroportos foram suportadas com verbas do plano de fomento." (Francisco Monteiro). (If you cannot understand the Portuguese, get some of your Goan neighbours to do so, for you - I know at least one who knows Portuguese in your neighbourhood). Dabolim was mostly crewed by Goans, some of who were, post 1961, refused induction into the Indian Airlines as the airline they belonged to, TAIP (based at Dabolim), was considered as a private airline by the courts. In fact, if you must know, and this is not part of this topic, TAIP air stewardesses (1956 - 1961) were probably the first international air stewardesses to wear a sari as part of their summer uniform (Patsy Almeida Cardoso - former TAIP air hostess, and comments by John Menezes). FYI, "western apparel was to remain the uniform for Air India air hostesses till 1960 when sarees were introduced" (http://www.airindia.com/page.asp?pageid=228). Dabolim was never an air force base nor a naval base pre-Dec 1961. In fact, from 2nd Dec to 18th Dec 1961, "baiting missions were flown right up to D-Day, trying to draw out the Portuguese Air Force, but to no avail." ... "The Goa operations gave the IAF an opportunity to employ jet air power for the first time on a massive scale. However that the Portuguese did not have any AA defences nor aircraft to defend their positions. This robbed the IAF of a realistic battlefield scenario." (http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1960s/Goa/). Dabolim, a Portuguese air-force base? You'd be joking. It was civilian to the core. And it ought to be civilian to the core this present day. > to every Indian who has abundant respect for our > armed forces. I don't think that it is exactly that attitude in Karwar at the moment. > All the Goans who live in Goa are Indians, > remember? Sorry, all Goans were "forced" to become Indians when the Indian Armed Forces invaded Goa. And all that to wi
Re: [Goanet] GOA FOR GOANS!
> > > Mario replies: > > > There are two kinds of Latinos coming across the US > border, legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. I > gladly greet the legal immigrants because I am one > myself. I also welcome their culture, because it > makes the US a more wonderful place. > > Legal immigrants when Goa is illegaly occupied? Goa is al most free for all. BC ___ Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] RE: Organized religion
--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The days of claiming ignorance are over. With > information available all > around us, it is sheer laziness for us not to go out > and 'eat of the tree > of Knowledge' to form our own opinions. An excerpt from http://www.holyspiritinteractive.net/columns/jackmcardle/comehere/19.asp If the unborn baby could think, it would be terrified of dying, because it is moving out of the only world it knows. Once there were twin boys in their mother's womb. After some time, they became aware of the cord, and, after further discussion and examination, they decided that their mother must really love them, because she was sharing her very life with them. Some time further on, they became aware of changes occurring in themselves. They noticed tiny nails appearing on their fingers; they noticed little eye-brows, eyelashes, etc. They wondered what this could mean. Then one of them suggested that they may be getting ready to be born. The other little guy cringed, and said "I don't want to be born. I want to stay where I am." "But we have to be born", said the other little guy. "We cannot stay here all our lives." "How do you know there's any life after this? Have you ever seen any one that was born? Did any of them ever come back to tell us what it's like?" "There just has to be life after this. If this is it, it makes no sense at all. I honestly believe that we are here preparing for the next stage, whatever that will be." "But how do you know there's a mother? What does she look like? Have you ever seen her? I bet you we only invented her for our own security." And so, the argument went back and forth. One was already a little atheist, while the other was a man of faith, which, in simple English, meant that he believed something, but had proof for nothing! And finally the time came, and they were born. When it was safe to do so, they opened their eyes, and found themselves looking up into the face of their mother. They looked at each other, as if to say "Weren't we very foolish. There was no way we could ever have imagined what this was going to be like. It is now obvious that we had to be born to get an idea." And so it is with us, now. We can argue and argue till the cows come home, but we will really have to pass through the next birth before we'll have any idea what it's all about. Cheers, Gabriel. Do you Yahoo!? Never miss an Instant Message - Yahoo! Messenger for SMS http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mweb/index.html
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[Goanet] FOCUS SHIFTS BACK TO DABOLIM BUT 'BALANCE' STILL ELUSIVE
Today's HERALD has an interesting report titled "Luizinho, Sardinha sing Dabolim mantra". It seems the politicians are getting the message at last. Luizinho reportedly "demanded that the MPs on the committee should ensure additional funds from the Civil Aviation Ministry. 'Right now let all of us including the MPs forget Mopa by getting additional land, money and state-of-the-art facilties for Dabolim ', Faleiro maintained". Sardinha exclaimed Dabolim will "never, ever" close down. The focus on Dabolim is fine as far as it goes. But its still a "Dabolim vs Mopa" game not "Dabolim + Mopa". It struck me as odd that both the gents read out the same Churchill transcript of 2000 and claimed he (Churchill) favoured "two airports" at that time. How could that be when the speech was made in the wake of the announcement that Dabolim would be closed when Mopa was ready? In this connection it is interesting that Luizinho now asks for an "interim report" of the committee "to assure that Dabolim will continue as the international ... airport" conveniently omitting a mention of Mopa and, more significantly, the Union Cabinet resolution of March 2000 which is the real thorn in Goa's flesh.
[Goanet] Titro Bhogsonnem.
TIATRO "BHOGSONNEM" As announced earlier, Samuel Carvalhos Tiatro BHOGSONNEM which is an All Ladies Show was held in Kuwait on Thursday, 2nd March 2006. Instead of 6.30 pm the show started an hour late. The attendance was not a full house yet it was a success attendance wise taking into consideration that it was held in negative environment namely, the first disadvantage was that it was held on Thursday evening when many of the regular Tiatro goers are working and the second disadvantage was that it was held in the Lent Season. Those who attended this show went home satisfied and none in the hall left for home before the end of the show because according to my observation everyone enjoyed this show. This is something good and encouraging for the promotion of our Tiatros. The story of the drama revolves around a young man who after deceiving his girlfriend finally marries to another girl who ultimately also deserts him for his misdeeds. In between one can see lot of tragic events which one should see by attending this show which is going to be staged in Goa in many of the places. The star of the show was surely comedy queen Janet who not only excelled in singing but also did extremely well in her role as Bebdo comedian. The other comedian who also did well in a comedy role as a Bebdo was Anju. Clara playing the role of a mother showed why she is one of the most sought after artistes today on Konkani Stage. She has acquired lot of maturity and reached to a seasoned stage. When I first saw her in 1963-64 as a debutant in Young Stars of Goa group she was unstable and weak especially in singing but in this show she showed her change to 360 degrees. Aplon played the role of a hero and though it was well done yet still she found wanting in her delivery as she in her talk showed lot of artificiality which dampened her originality. Fatima played a very good role of an elderly father, her French Beard, Paunchy Belly and Walking Stick were befitting her role. As usual, Felcy played the role of a heroine much to the satisfaction of the audience. After a long time and in many years I saw Betty Ferns on the Stage, earlier she came to participate in Kuwait in 1997 for the Tiatro Ami Chuklim by Rosary Ferns. What a great artiste she was in seventies and eighties when she was coached by and was paired with the late C. Alvares!! She was one of the most attractive female artistes of Konkani Stage but now she is become a pale self of her previous self and yet she did well. Betty Naz another artiste of yesteryears played her motherly role well thus proving to everyone what colourful artiste she was once. The others who did justice to their roles were Roma as a rejected girlfriend of hero Aplon and Felina who is showing lot of encouragement and I can rightly say that she has got excellent capacity as a singer and very good future on Konkani Stage. Among the side show songs, Comedy Queen Janet imitating William de Curtorim stole the show while in Boyers role Felcy had some deficiency yet it was a nice song. Romas solo in praise of C. Alvares and other oldies was very well appreciated by the audience since she sang it with ease, perfect timing and with absolute clarity. The song Aplon and Felcy rendered in praise of their late father Rom Tony was very interesting. Meena Leitao also rendered a good solo and the trio of Felcy - Clara Anju was one of the best in the whole drama, Clara was at her best and Felcy as usual proved why she is considered the best in singing. Aplons solo Hublichi Ghanttin with her appropriate dress code of a Ghanttin delighted the audience. The musical score provided by Norman Cardoso was excellent and now after seeing him playing on that day I realized why he carry the title of number one musician for Tiatros in Goa. Stage setting done by SPA (Santan) was appreciated by all, so too the Mike system by Randy. Shane Services - the local agents for Basmati Rice presented three prizes in three categories: One for Best Actor went for Fatima, the other for best singer went to Roma and the third for best comedian went to Anju. A. Veronica Fernandes, Kuwait. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet] Re: Konknni in Kadamba script
Cool... does anyone know how/if the matras work for this particular script? Neal Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pintomusic.com
[Goanet] New Book: BORN AGAIN
Dear Editor We are delighted to inform you that the following book is being released in New Delhi on 6th June 06. BORN AGAIN; REINCARNATION CASES INVOLVING INTERNATIONAL CELEBRITIES, INDIA'S POLITICAL LEGENDS AND FILM STARS BY Dr. Walter Semkiw, MD. More details on www.ritanabooks.com Best wishes Rock Furtado
[Goanet] Re: Workshop on Gardens....
Kindly note that my TWO dates of workshop are 18th, 19th and 25, 26th March, 2006. Sorry for the inconvenience. .. We re affirm our commitment to spread Happiness & Joy through Gardening. === Normalize your blood pressure, raise your level of joy and happiness by indulging into gardening, being in the company of plants and nature.
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Killer Roads
--- Valmiki Faleiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The bus suddenly > gained speed and from the > manner it went, it was clear that something was > amiss. Brakes had failed. The > fully loaded bus hurtled wildly. Passengers > screamed. The driver somehow > managed every curve, avoiding vehicles down the way. > Finally, at the foot of > the slope and its 90-degree right turn, he careered > the monster straight > ahead, off the road, halting against a tree. Every > passenger rushed out, > unhurt. The gallant driver died, unsung, his boots > on. Touching on mechanical failures. One major mechanical failure that used to occasionally happen then (don't know about now), is the diesel engine overrun, when oil gets sucked past the piston rings, the revs rise rapidly without the accelerator being pressed, and usually ends in the "death" of the engine by blowing it to bits. This usually happens if there is too much oil in the crankcase. Fortunately, the driver of the vehicle I was travelling in (Panjim - Margao direct via Ponda in 1975 or thereabouts) knew what to do - a piece of 4x4 timber kept next to the engine cowling in readiness just for such an occasion, was pressed against the air intake, which shut down the engine almost immediately. NOTE: Never put your hand on the air-intake of a diesel engine, especially of a turbo-diesel, unless you want to amputate your hand. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - VIC - Australia. P.S. It would be a good idea for the newspapers to publish daily stats on the number of deaths due to road accidents year-to-date compared to the same time the previous year (if too much, perhaps a month-to-date would be better for starters). Hopefully, this would be an eyeopener for those who think they are invulnerable and drive like there's no tomorrow. On Yahoo!7 'Lost': A chance to win a Rav 4 and a holiday for 20! http://www.yahoo7.com.au/lost
[Goanet] US id looking forward to eat Indian Mangoes
In his latest visit to India, President Bush has said that the US was looking forward to eat Indian Mangoes. Indian Mangoes will lend a sweet flavour to Indo-US trade relations, with President George W Bush, today saying that America was looking forward to eating the exotic fruit from India, the import of which was banned until now. "The United States is looking forward to eating Indian mangoes as part of liberalising trades and opening markets," Bush said here in his joint press conference with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, after bilateral discussions. "As a result of your leadership and our hard work, we are opening markets," the President said. And in keeping with the mood of the day, alphonso mango kulfi was on the menu for desserts at a lunch hosted by the Prime Minister in honour of the visiting dignitary. The US authorities have agreed to consider lifting of sanitary ban on its imports. Indian mangoes were banned from entering the US as the authorities had not conducted a Pest Risk Analysis (PRA), required for Sanitary and Phyto-Sanitary (SPS) clearance. US Trade Representative Rob Portman, who was yesterday served mangoes during a meeting with Commerce Minister Kamal Nath, had indicated that an announcement on lifting the ban is likely by Bush during his visit to India. India had requested for a PRA about 19 years ago and US authorities have not completed the process. While China has allowed import of Indian mangoes, Australia and Japan, which also have stringent SPS requirements were now looking at allowing entry to the king of fruits. Asit K. Ghosh http://www.asitghosh.com Rockledge, Florida 32955, USA LATI 28* 19' 5" North / LONG 80* 43' 41" West
[Goanet] ANTI MOPA AIRPORT AGITATION SCENE
I still remember the night of 19 December when the agitation for konkani language led by Churchill Alemao was hijacked by the GOONDAS.I believe similar events will recur now against the development of MOPA AIRPORT spearheaded by the PATRIOT ,SON OF SOIL WHO TRAMPLED UPON THE NATIONAL FLAG AT MARGAO'S LOHIA MAIDAN. I would just like to share those events with the readers: We went to work that morning with my colleague Mr Carvalho to our office at Cidade Goa, Dona Paula. In the evening on our way back at Santacruz we saw some cars in flames and people told us that situation is very bad further down and so we went via Dona Paula clearing all the road blocks on the university road. Then we reached the slope of Shirdona,it was pitch dark and we were really scared of the darkness of Goa ,I was scarred in my Goa. When we reached Agacaim, we were gheraoed by the Agacaim Villagers and started questioning us. Villagers:Khai Gellen re? Carvalho:Kamank gelle. Villagers:Kamak gelle, dis nolko kaslo tho any Chedy...a ani kamak gelle.Ami haga martant ani tumhi kamank gelle. One of the villages slapped Carvalho, Carvalo started pleading with them to forgive. Possibly one of them must be good and he convinced others to let us go. When we were passing Zuari bridge I told Carvalho that, "If we stopped further down, you answer that Ami Maik pallovapak hospitalan gelle. Please do not say AAI (marathi word for Mom)". When we reached Verna plateau we decided to go to Margao via Cansaulim as trenches were dug at Verna village. We reached Velsao and we saw a road block surrounded by villagers. We were again questioned by them. Villagers: Khain Gellen re? Carvalho: Hospitallam gellen AAI palonvpak.(When I heard Carvalho saying Aai, Shivers went down my spine. Carvalho a christian and saying AAI.) Villagers: Ha AAI, marathi wadi.. Carvalho: Na re Hao Chiristaon. Majho Irmao Segio Carvalho, Mathany Saldhana majho Irmao, He convinced that we were Christians and after they got convinced they lifted the bike and put it the other side.( I did not open my mouth for the fear of being detected to be a Hindu.) Further down Cansaulin there were road blocks, trees cut and blockades. That night we decided to stay at Cansaulim at Mr Mathany Saldhana's house who was family friend of Carvalho. Mr Saldhana sister treated us with good soup and omlette. Nest day early morning at 4 am we left Cansaulim managed to clear way for our motorcycle and reached Margao much to the relief of my mother and Carvalho wife. MY FEARS THAT MOPA AIRPORT AGITATION WILL TAKE SIMILAR TURN Manoj Raikar
[Goanet] BUDGET BONANZA (Newsweek)
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11675824/site/newsweek/ Budget Bonanza A flotilla of low-cost airlines is redrawing the economic map of Europe. By William Underhill Newsweek International
[Goanet] Re: 2 new event albums - GOA LA
Those are great photos. Thank you for distributing them. I plan to visit L.A. sometime this year. It's great to see such a vibrant community out there. Neal Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pintomusic.com
