[Goanet] Re: Moira Contraversy...

[Olav Menezes]

Hi Everybody,

On 4/26/06, Muriel & Mario  wrote:

> 

> An "impartial assessment" and fact-finding-mission is the need of
> the hour.  If other impartial, resident netters (especially those
> in and around Moira) could assist Vivian it would be great.
>
> Getting senior and respected investigative journalists like Paul
> Fernandes (Asst. Editor, Gomantak Times), Frederick Noronha
> (Freelancer), Sandesh Prabhudesai (Editor, Sunaparant), Vijay
> D'Souza (Chief Reporter, Herald) and Joaquim Fernandes (Mapusa
> Bureau Chief, Navhind Times,) to be on the team would also lend
> credibility to the findings.>



Ah Ha! At last people are waking up to the fact that there is something
seriously wrong and need to be addressed in Moira! The above named are
all fine journalists and of high credibility in their field, although the
latter two
could be termed as slightly biased in favour of the aggressors. My opinion
is
influenced by the fact that Herald ran an article on April 3, 2006 without
visiting the site to ascertain the truth of the matter that was given
ready-made
to them. This was not only biased but also poor journalism, but then Vijay
D'Souza didn't write the article. Joaquim Fernandes ran a piece on Matthew
Mendes in the December 9, 2002 issue of the Navhind Times which would
disqualify him for jury duty, but he is a man known for his integrity.



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[Goanet] Jonathan D'Cruz Wins Computer Science Merit Award at Florida State Science Fair

[CARMO DCRUZ]

Jonathan D'Cruz of Ascension Catholic School won the Computer
Science Merit Award at the Florida State Science Fair for his project
"Using the Tools of Artificial Intelligence To Forecast Stock Prices"

He also won the US Navy Science Award from the Office of Naval
Research.

It was a busy week for Jonathan - Later in the week he joined his
Ascension teammate Jacob Heidel on the Cocoa Beach Hurricanes
U-14 Team in the Amateur Athletic Union (AAU) YBOA State Level
Basketball Tournament in Jacksonville.

Jonathan quipped, "Playing the stock market for a competitive
science fair project is just like playing basketball - You have to
deal with the aggressive Technical Analysts,the cerebral Rational Analysts 
and the
defensive Fundamental Analysts in the stock market - they are making all 
kinds
of moves all the time and Artificial Intelligence helps keep them in
check. Just like in basketball...where we have to deal with the
forwards, the center and the guards and our intense point guard training
helps keep them in check...AAU basketball was a lot different and definitely
more competitive than inter-school basketball back home. I think our
Cocoa Beach High School freshman basketball team got a head start
for the Fall season this Summer. I felt proud to be a member of the award-
winning Brevard Schools' contingent at the Florida State Science Fair and 
this
really pumped me up when I played for the Cocoa Beach Hurricanes in
the State-Level AAU YBOA Basketball Tournament later in the same week"

Both Jonathan and Jacob will join the International Baccalaureate
program at Cocoa Beach Jr/Sr High School next year.

Carmo D'Cruz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
321-720-5369

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[Goanet] Re: Moira Contraversy...

[Floriano]

Fred has opened up a pandora's box here.
And just aswell.
As far as I am concerned,  I have observed that in Goa, the authorities like
the GSPCB (Polution Control Board) apply the same set of rules and
regulations to small fries like Manuel Caldeira  etc. and mega units like
Meta Strips, Steel Rolling Mills, Pig Iron Plants etc.

THIS IS A DO OR DIE SITUATION, especially when people at Ministerial level
lend a  single ear on preferential basis to cause more problems where there
are none. Laws are yet to be written that can be followed by all. Presently,
laws are written on individual basis.

Floriano
goasuraj
check-out the Road Map for Goa at www.goasu-raj.org

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[Goanet] Re: Ground Transportation in Goa.

[Tom & Carolina]

Ground Transportation in Goa.

The safety standard of our buses in Goa has much to be desired.  Passenger 
confort and safety is not existent and all the local buses have no fans for 
ventilation or aircondition. The wheels are normally mis-aligned and 
unbalanced and the seats very uncomfortable.  Overloading of the buses is 
free issue and normally police control is non existent.
Our learned politicians spend more time in arranging for morchas and bundhs 
for and against the proposed new airport but how many of the general public 
travel by air regularly.  Buses are our normal mode of transport and I feel 
that the Alemao brothers, khalap and others should concentrate for now at 
least in the interest of public safety to improve the quality and safety of 
the private and Kadamba buses.
Tom de Sousa in Hong Kong.

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[Goanet] Moira controversy......................

[Vivian D'Souza]

After reading several representations and listening to a few folks, I have 
decided that better sense should prevail and I should refrain from getting 
involved in the Moira  imbroglio. After all I remind myself that I am not  an  
expert on pollution and noise levels and only , "fools rush in where angels 
fear to tread".
   
  My sense is that what is going on there is essentially a neighborhood 
issue.  I regret that somehow it has been aired on this forum. The folks 
impacted by whatever is going on should resolve the issue among themselves and 
not air their dirty linen on this forum.  That's my view.fling your 
brickbats, I dont care.

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[Goanet] AVC Kuwait wins CRC 9 a side Trophy

[Francis Xavier]

AVC Kuwait wins CRC 9 a side Trophy

Seasoned campaigners AVC-Kuwait sponsored by shipping giants Kuwait
Transcontinental Shipping Company Kuwait won the prestigious CRC 9 a side
football tournament organized by CRC Kuwait held on the famous Soor Grounds
on 21st April 2006 under the auspices of KIFF. In the finals AVC-Kuwait beat
Curtorcares United in the tie breaker to lift the prestigious Trophy which
eluded them for quite sometime. In the semifinals held on the same day
Curtorcares United blanked United Friends 3-0 whereas AVC Kuwait trounced
Bombay Boys 3-1. 

The finals was rather subdued as AVC-Kuwait who were the favorites after
having scored 14 goals in three matches in the run up to the finals were
lethargic and missed their usual flair. Curtorcares United lifted their game
and almost scored with Melvin missing an easy sitter from a rare defensive
lapse by AVC's stubborn defense line. Veteran and experienced goalkeeper
Alvaro Dias manning the AVC goal after along time made sure nothing goes
past him during the normal time. Towards the end of the second half Edwin of
AVC sent a scorcher which hit Victor on the goal line and bounced back in
play and Curtacares heaved a sigh of relief as it was sure goal with Olavo
on the wrong end.

In the tiebreaker the tiring AVC's stalwart Alvaro Dias made way for
acrobatic Jose in the goal who effected a splendid save and send AVC's fans
into raptures. The game was played in a very friendly nature by both the
teams. It may be noted that out of 7 tournaments held in this season under
the auspices of Kuwait Indian Football Federation Kuwait, AVC- Kuwait have
entered 5 finals and stepped the podium 3 times. Goalkeeper of AVC-Kuwait
Alvaro Dias was adjudged the man of the finals. The Chief Guest for the
finals was Mr. Manuel D'costa, the President of KIFF. The tournament on the
whole was very well organized.

Congratulations to AVC-Kuwait for the achievement and all the best in
future.

Francis Xavier

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[Goanet] Re: Current Contacto Goa episode Obnoxious

[Joy de Souza]

G'day folks,

I have to correct myself here, not any 'retained placenta' but that from a 
bovine infected with Brucellosis.

Cheers

Joy

- Original Message - 
From: "Joy de Souza" 
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [gova] Current Contacto Goa episode Obnoxious


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[Goanet] Re:Protecting Goa's Heritage

[vabal...@aol.com]

There is a volunteer group of concerned Goans who are working towards this  
Goal.They have formed Goa Heritage Action Group.
 
The Website is-
 
http://goaheritage.org/

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[Goanet] Indian Film Stars and the Minister for May Queen Ball in Qatar

[Simon D'Silva]

   

RAJEEV KHANDELWAL, EX-SUJAL OF "KAHIN TO HOGA", PREETI JHANGIANI OF
MOHABBATEIN ALONG WITH LUIZINHO FALEIRO, MINISTER FOR INDUSTRIES & EDUCATION
TO ATTEND 6TH ANNUAL MAY QUEEN BALL IN DOHA

The biggest event, MAY QUEEN BALL of the Goan Welfare Association, Qatar has
acclaimed an international stature by organizing such shows where different
nationalities attend in large numbers. This year the 6th Annual May Queen
Ball will be attended by T.V. SuperStar and Bollywood Actor, Mr. Rajeev
Khandelwal, Ex-SUJAL of Kahin To Hoga, Preeti Jhangiani who has been
featured in Yash Chopra's "Mohabbatein" and Luizinho Faleiro, the Minister
for Industries & Education, Govt. of Goa, India.

Those missing Rajeev Khandelwal - the original Sujal of Kahin To Hoga -
won't have to wait any longer. Starting April 28, Khandelwal will be seen
hosting the popular game show "Deal Ya No Deal" on Sony. He has also signed
Hindi films and will be in Doha to patronise his fans.

Model turned actress, Preeti Jhangiani made her entry into the world of
greasepaint, as the wispy chhui mui girl in a music video, everyone
whispered, "Who's that girl?" And when she made it to the list of three
newcomers to be introduced in the eternal romantic Yash Chopra's star
bonanza, Mohobbatein, cine-goers knew that Preeti Jhangiani had arrived. Out
of the three girls who debuted in the film, Preeti, as critics and audiences
professed, gained most out of the mileage. Her goody-two-shoes image, her
delicate profile, Preeti seemed to fit hand-in-glove for the role of most
conventional Hindi films. Soon, producers started queuing outside her house
with scripts and signing amounts. Some of her Filmography are Mohabbatein

 , Ssukh
 , Aan - Men At Work
 , Baaz: A Bird in
  Danger, Annarth
 .

The Chief Guest for the event will be Mr. Luizinho Faleiro, Minister for
Industries & Education, Govt. of Goa, India. He has been continuously
elected Member of the Legislative Assembly with huge margins since 1980. He
is the Former Chief Minister of Goa and Ex-President of Goa Pradesh
Congress.

The 6th Annual May Queen Ball will be held on 11th May 2006 at the
Diplomatic Club from 9.00 p.m. sharp onwards with Goa's leading Band "LYNX"
who will fly next day to London.

 photo
 

Updesh Swar, Compere in Action


The Highlights of the dinner dance will be Crowning of May Queen 2006 by the
Bollywood Stars and the Minister. We are working very hard with our
intellectual ideas and professional expertise knowledge to give the people
best and make the event a historical one to satisfy our sponsors, guests and
well-wishers, said Simon D'Silva, president of the Association. The event
will be in aid of Girl Child Orphans in Goa. Tickets are priced at Qrs.
100/- per adult and Qrs. 60/- per child under 10 years. Spot entrance will
be Qrs. 200/- subject to availability of the tickets. The Sale of tickets
will be closed on 8th May 2006. Tickets are available at Designers Tailors
on 4325478, Kebab King on 4433119. The event is FORMAL.

More details can be had from Simon D'Silva on 5550491, John De Sa on 5529823
and Mathew Estrocio on 5807019. The Minister will have a separate meeting
with the Goan Community on Friday 12th May 2006 in the evening at the Al
Andalus Club Hall. 


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[Goanet] Goa news for April 28, 2006

[Goanet News Service]

Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org

Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.


*** Dawood's nephew dies in road crash (IBN live)

Underworld don Dawood Ibrahim's nephew Danish has been killed
in a road accident near Panvel on the Mumbai-Goa highway.

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/dawoods-nephew-dies-in-road-crash/8896-3.html


*** Go Goa! But at the risk of terror? (IBN live)

The bombings in Egypt's famous tourist resort Dahab have
brought holiday destinations to the spotlight as prime targets
of terror.

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/go-goa-but-at-the-risk-of-terror/8779-3.html


*** Selaulim pipeline (Navhind Times)

Margao, April 27: The Selaulim pipeline, which supplies water
to most of South Goa district, burst last night at Igramol in
Quepem taluka for the third time within the period of two
months.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=042818


*** Goa, Maharashtra to jointly set up waste disposal plants
(Navhind Times)

Panaji, April 25: Goa and Maharashtra will collaborate to set
up hazardous waste disposal plants at two different sites
identified at Mahad and Taloja in southern Maharashtra.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=042648


*** Navy likens ship mishap off Goa coast to hit-and-run case
(Navhind Times)

New Delhi, April 25: The Indian navy today disclosed that its
patrol vessel, INS Prahar, which sank off the Goa coast on
Friday night following a collision with a container ship, was
dragged by it for quite sometime after the two vessels got
linked with each other.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=042652


*** Dawood's nephew killed in road accident (Hindustan Times)

Danish Parkar, a nephew of Dawood Ibrahim, died in a road
accident on the outskirts of the city, said police officials on
Thursday. Danish, son of Dawood's elder sister Haseena Parkar,
died late on Wednesday when his car collided with a truck on
the Mumbai-Goa highway, said a police official.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1685007,000900040001.htm


*** Dawood nephew dies in mishap (The Times of India)

Danish Parkar, nephew of underworld don Dawood Ibrahim, was
killed in a car accident on the Mumbai-Goa highway.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1508189.cms


*** South Asia 101 (About.com)

Whether you think of Rudyard Kipling and Gunga Din or Brad
Pitt's Seven Years in Tibet , or maybe hippies on the beaches
of Goa, South Asia is a land of potent images - of beauty and
emotion, filth and apathy, history and romance...

http://goasia.about.com/cs/azsiteindex/a/sasia101.htm


*** Crunch match for Mahindras as they take on Sporting, Goa
(Outlook India)

Mahindra United hope to take a step towards their maiden
National Football League title tomorrow when they take on
Sporting Clube de Goa at Nehru Stadium, Margao.

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=380801


*** South Asia 101 (About.com)

Whether you think of Rudyard Kipling and Gunga Din or Brad
Pitt's Seven Years in Tibet, or maybe hippies on the beaches of
Goa, South Asia is a land of...

http://goasia.about.com/b/a/257198.htm


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php

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Re: [Goanet] Re: [gova] Current Contacto Goa episode Obnoxious

[Helga do Rosario Gomes]

God for you Joy. As a kid I loved James Herriot too. Perhaps its time to
revisit them - now that you reminded me of them!
 I think I missed something - why was the Contacto episode obnoxious?


> If it was not for the veterinarians one would probably be eating choricos
>(sp) filled with cancerous meat and not the real thing. I have lived in Goa
>and before I became a veterinarian, inspired by James Herriot at that, I
had
>no idea what to expect in Bombay Veterinary College.



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[Goanet] Re: Review of the Review by the Reviewer

[Victor Rangel-Ribeiro]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Gabe,

PS: Please permit my sense of humor to show. Elisabeth writes a long article 
about the "Holy Warrior review" and the only response she gets from two 
esteemed netters is her one line reference to airline hostess. Now you know 
why I find life funny.:=))

  This is my response:
I sometimes wonder whether Gilbert actually reads all the posts that he 
comments on. I did comment on Elisabeth's multiline putdown of air 
stewardesses, but I commented at greater length on her longer putdown of book 
reviewers. So for Gilbert to say that the only response Elisabeth got was 
to "her one line reference to airline hostesses" is wrong.  
   
  At another time, but in connection with the same thread, Gilbert has assumed 
that I assumed that Avelino was the author of the unfavorable review being 
discussed. That is not an assumption he could have made from anything I wrote; 
why then did he make it? To cover his own blunder in blaming Avelino for being 
the author? 
   
  In another line, he pointed to "Ribeiros" as being among those who dump on 
other Goans. As one of a number of Ribeiros who share that name, I criticise 
people when I feel criticism is warranted; I do not go out of my way to 
criticise Goans because they are Goans. However, I feel it would be quite 
unfair, when someone deserves to be criticised, to withhold that criticism 
just because he happens to be a Goan. Gilbert Lawrence and Victor Rangel-
Ribeiro should be judged by the things they say or write or do, and the fact 
that they are Goans should not be allowed to stand in the way.
   
  Regards,
  Victor Rangel-Ribeiro 
   

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[Goanet] Promise of glamour and talent at May Ball

[D'Souza, Avelino]

Promise of glamour and talent at May Ball =20
GLAMOUR is set to return to Bahrain next week at the Indian May Ball
2006.=20

Leading Goan band Big Country are making their debut in the Gulf at the
show organised and hosted by Brian Dias.

It will feature the scintillating performance of violin maestro Melcom
Teixera and Goan Urban Development Minister Joaquim Alemao will attend
as chief guest.

The glamorous May Queen Beauty Pageant will also be part of the show and
participants of all nationalities are invited to take part.=20

"We are accepting more contestants as we were forced to increase the
final count to 20," said Mr Dias.=20

The models will be groomed by the Free Style Beauty Salon, and there
will also be a performance of the song Papa, Mama, I Love You by Sacred
Heart School students dedicated to the orphans of the recent dhow
tragedy.

The show will also feature a country-style novelty dance and food stalls
with Goan delicacies. It will kick off from 8.30pm on May 4 at the
Palace's Falcon Hall and the event's major sponsor is Indian Airlines.

Tickets are priced BD2 for adults and BD1 for children and part of the
proceeds shall be donated to the dhow orphans fund.

The event is co-sponsored by BMMI, Shaheen Group, Jealous Jeans, Zayani
Motors, Sharp, Royal Jordanian Airlines, Western Union, Nonoo Exchange,
Jet Airways, OTSC, Hafsa, Gulf Daily News, Awal Refrigeration, Alukkas
Jewellers, Noble Traders, Fakhro Electronics, Selcon and Howar Photocopy
Centre. For further details, contact Brian Dias on 39466355 or the
Palace on 17725000.=20

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=3D141993&Sn=3DBNEW&Issue=
ID=3D
29037

~(^^)~

Avelino

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[Goanet] Noise Pollution in Moira once again!

[Olav Menezes]

Today the Novo Portugal area of Moira was shaken awake from their afternoon
siesta by a loud burst of noise. It brought everybody at 'ground zero'
running to their windows to see who or what  was responsible for this
sacrilegious activity in the fiefdom of the "Moira Mafia".

To villagers who have taken to creeping silently in this area in order to
avoid the wrath of the Mendes' and their cronies, it was a revelation to see
Manuel Caldeira, grinning from ear to ear, standing in the debris of half a
bag full of crackers that he had set off.

He was celebrating and telling all and sundry that he had just received the
NOC from the Goa State Pollution Control Board. Despite all the lies and
complaints engineered by the "Moira Mafia" and their cronies, the Maciels,
Lobos, Sequeiras and the "good" sisters from Mangalore.

When Manuel Caldeira went in the morning to collect the NOC, he was informed
by the Member Secretary of GSPCB that there was one more complaint against
him, this time about the water in his well being polluted. A last ditch
attempt by the "Moira Mafia" to sabotage the issuance of the NOC to
Caldeira.

MS: "Mr. Caldeira, we have received yet another complant from your
neighbours. They say your well water is polluted and a danger to them".

MC: "If my well water is polluted in what way is it a danger to them? You
are welcome to my house and I will serve you coffee made from the same well
water. I
drink this well water everyday".

MS: "What? You drink this water? You don't use the Government supplied
water?"

MC: "I have no Government supply. The PWD personnel disconnected the water
pipeline more than a month ago. They even took away the water meter without
   even intimating me. All this because of my neighbour's complaint that
I was using Govt. water for my unit. I hardly use any water for the unit and
if needed I
   have the well water.

MS: "How is this possible?"

MC: "Everything is possible in Goa. When I confronted the Assistant
Engineer, in Mapusa, he admitted it was done because he received a
Confidential Memo right
from the very top! This group of few neighbours even tried to
pollute my well water through connivance with a staff member of the Primary
Health Service,
without knowledge of his superiors!

MS: "Anyway, I will have to take a sample of your well water".

MC: "You are welcome. This will not be the first samples to be taken. The
Health Officer also received similar complaints. The last time he took
samples of all the
 neighbours except mine since he said he knew my well water was
fine. In fact the chief complainant, Sister Udaya of the Convent next door
was reluctant to
 give a sample of her well water since she feared it was polluted by
their neighbour's pigs! Lovely example of the kettle calling the pot black!"

MS and MC have a hearty laugh together, the latter collects his NOC and
heads for Moira after purchasing a bagful of crackers.

"WE SHALL MAKE POWDER OF OUR ENEMIES!"

Olav Menezes

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[Goanet] Dubai: Go, Man, Go for This Festival on May 25

[D'Souza, Avelino]

Dubai: Go, Man, Go for This Festival on May 25

Mangalore, Apr 26: There's almost a month ahead. Still there is lot of
time to plan your schedule. But, mind you, put the date on your digital
diaries or mark it on the wall calendars today.

For this is going to be something unique to happen in the Middle East.
The 'Mango Madness Show', A entertainment show for Mangalorean and Goans
, will be held in the Ballroom of Marco Polo Hotel in Deira, Dubai on
May 25, 2006.=20

The proceeds of the festival will benefit the Child Relief and You
(CRY), an Indian foundation for children, the authentication of which,
if found necessary, can be had from Susan Varghese, senior manager,
global operations, CRY, in New Delhi.=20

And one does not necessarily have to hail from Mangalore or Goa to be
part of this festival. Being mad enough for mangoes is just the basic
requirement!

Entry is limited to 300-400 guests. Not that there are only these many
mango enthusiasts around. But, for reason of space constraints, the
entry is being limited. It is only the early birds who will grab the
seats.

There will be live entertainment and authentic Goan and Mangalorean
cuisine for good measure.=20

It is all the fruit of labour on the part of Vanessa Rasquinha and her
team. She says they would be able to accomplish this task only with
support by way of sponsorships from high-calibre business firms. She
already has the experience of having organized a couple of such events,
which were highly successful. Their success has motivated her to hold
events like this regularly.=20

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=3D20738&n_tit=3DDubai%3=
A+G
o%2C+Man%2C+Go+for+This+Festival+on+May+25

~(^^)~

Avelino



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RE: [Goanet] Review of the Review by the Reviewer /Melinda CoutinhoPowell

[Alfred de Tavares]

By the way,I marrried one of my passengers.(without harressing him)

Melinda


Good for you, Melinda!

By name, may I guess that Mr Powell hails from the Emerald Isle?

And did you woo him with an extra GUINESS?

Alfred



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Re: [Goanet] Review of the Review by the Reviewer /Melinda Coutinho Powell

[Mario Goveia]

The following exchange from the planet of Venus should
be a lesson in civility to the rest of us Martian
barbarians :-))
>
--- Melinda Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Elisabeth Carvalho worte"
> I was ofcourse being flippant and resorting to
> stereotype, when adding that one-liner. However
> since I was not making a personal dig at any one 
> person, I didn't seriously think it would offend 
> anyone.  Again, since it inadvertently did, I 
> apologise.
> 
> Hi Elisabeth,
> 
> hey ,I wasnt really upset,just felt that I had to
> speak up for the cause --I
> still have a few loyalties left though I quit 13
> years ago.
> It is very gracious of you to apologise,now I admire
> you even more.
> I enjoy reading yr inputs,keep it up.
> 


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Re: [Goanet] Re: Review of the Review by the Reviewer

[Mario Goveia]

--- Victor Rangel-Ribeiro wrote:
>
> You do not like it because it was unfavourable.
> 
Mario observes:
>
Victor,
Excellent exposition of book reviewing and comments on
this curious episode.
>
If we go back to Gilbert's original rant about the
review we will see that a) he had not read the book,
perhaps had never even heard of it, b) he thought
Avelino wrote the review, c) he did not like the
wording of the review from which he concluded that d)
the hapless Avelino was "cheap", "in keeping with Goan
character" and using the review to "claw his way up by
stomping on someone else's efforts."  Whoa!
>
Knowing Gilbert, I was a little shocked at his
atypical vitriol and uncharacteristic opinion of "Goan
character", and chalked up his irritability at the
time to his recent promotion to Grandpa, and the fact
that he may have had to stay up the previous night
singing lullabyes and/or just come from cleaning the
baby's poop :-))
>
Then some others who had also not read the book jumped
on the band-wagon, for reasons that escape me.
>
Fortunately, all the unnecessary heat eventually
generated some well-needed light and Gilbert and the
others now know what is really going on, and those who
needed to be have been duly "educated" by the sage
comments of people like you, who wisely looked before
leaping.
>
I hope all this means that Edna sells lots of books to
people who may want to know what all the fuss was
about :-))
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[Goanet] Review of the Review by the Reviewer

[gilbertlaw]

Hi Gabe,

I welcome all Goans and Indians to review and study "Holy Warrior". 
This will directly and indirectly support the author and her work.
I hope ALL Goans can support the cause and issue surfaced by Edna Fernandes.
Or else the issue becomes a 'topic d jour' and a one week 'flash in the pan' in 
Goan cyber space.
And the holy warriors can regroup for another day and another fight, while the 
rest of us are socializing.

One simple way to show our solidarity and pay our respects to Edna is to honor 
her.  
Have her as chief guest at Goan functions in England (her home) and elsewhere.
The WGD should certainly consider honoring her work at its 2006 celebrations.
Or are we just content to argue about her book reviews? 
Certainly we can revel by doing "Review of the Review by the Reviewer" to a 
shamba tune.:=))
And then lament about the next wave of fanaticism to hit Goa or India?
Kind Regards, GL

--- Gabe Menezes:  
 
I am busy with my shamba at the moment.
It was neglected for sometime now and needs back breaking work on it. 
I think this one is for Cornel.please read and give us your opinion? 
I hope you read this Cornel!

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RE: [Goanet] Re: Re: Moira Contraversy...

[Nasci Caldeira]

Hi Fred,

In Australia, every town /city is divided into zones; residential, 
commercial and industrial. The Industrial zones are never allowed or mixed 
up with Residential zones, and or the commercial ones.


Some commercial activity of a non disturbing type is allowed in a 
residential zone; like say a' Hair Salon'. Even here the business owner has 
to comply with all other criteria pertaining to the business, and also has 
to create at least two/ three parking spaces within his own property; so as 
not to crowd out the normal parking spots on the roadside.


Activities like vehicle mechanics and the likes of ceramics shops etc, can 
only be permitted in an Industrial Zone, far apart from a residential 
zone.and that too after an EPA clearance and must comply with other rules 
and criteria pertaining, at all times; these are subject to regular 
inspection by the authority overseeing, and also on a complaint; God help 
anyone for non compliance! the person is sure enough to be rejected 
outright, or to loose the license, subject to democratic process.


I would say that Goa and India must learn to introduce this type if zoning; 
and follow it to the letter; that way every one benefits.


Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne.

"Frederick Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Subject: [Goanet] Re: Re: Moira Contraversy...
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:44:34 +0530



Also, could someone share with us the procedures for setting up a
small business (or what Mr Caldeira calls a cottage unit) in other
parts of the globe? How is size defined? What steps are put in place
to ensure against side-effects or complaints? --FN




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RE: [Goanet] Voting rights for NRI Goans

[Nasci Caldeira]

Elisabeth,

NRI is a Non Resident Indian, that is a person holding an Indian Passport 
and Citizenship, residing outside India. And in case of NRIs in gulf and 
other like countries these NRIs are not even PR that is they are not 
permanent Residents in the countries where they are working as expatriates. 
Hence they are for all purposes Indians working abroad and come 'HOME to 
India. As such they should have the 'Right of Vote' in their respective 
constituencies back home. Not knowing about certain things like u say is no 
criteria for 'No Vote'. It is the persons inherent right to vote, 
irrespective of other perceived qualities.


This reminds me of what Nehru said in response to a query from a Time 
Correspondent, at the time of Goa's Liberation/Invasion/ Annexation! When 
the said journo said to Nehru: "most Goans he met in Bombay were not in 
favour of Nehru's impending action". To which Nehru replied:"Most Goans in 
Bombay are cooks and butlers". Do these poeple not have the right to decide 
or vote (n this case)

just because they are cooks and butlers?? I hope U see the analogy.


A PIO on the other hand is a person of Indian Origin, full or half; and this 
person may or may not be an Indian Citizen; the person may be a foreign (non 
Indian) citizen either acquired thru immigration or by birth. These persons 
who are foreign citizens can never be allowed to vote etc in India. That is 
the natural law!


For all of the above, I feel that all NRI's who are not PR of foreign 
countries shoiuld be allowed to vote, in their respective constituencies in 
India.


I will bring to notice the news of the Italian Govt. from this year allowing 
Italian NRI's in Australia, not only to vote in Italian Elections but also 
to have their own Reps in both houses of the Italian Parliament. These were 
duly elected here in Australia by these NRI's and are now sitting in the 
Italian Parliament on behalf of the NRI's. I was pleasently surprised; but 
again that is true democracy in action.


Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne.


Elisabeth Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Subject: [Goanet] Voting rights for  NRI Goans
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:49:58 -0700 (PDT)

I have no qualms about NRIs being given voting rights
but to what end? NRIs, PIOs, expats are an apathetic
lot. I should know. Most of my family is now in
diaspora and much of it second-generation, whose only
link to Goa, is the occasional trip back home to see
the ancestral house, check out if Auty Teodoline
really does sport a mustache and how Uncle Joe talks
about Lisboa with such reverence. Throw in a cruise
down the Mondovi river, a lunch out at Martin's corner
and a drive through hawker-invested Calangute for
souvenirs and, they are ready for the trip back home
having "discovered their roots".

I think Goans living abroad have very little knowledge
and much less interest in the actual problems facing
the people and the polity. They are immersed in their
own daily battles, as they should be. I don't know if
they can truly represent the hopes and aspirations of
Goans living in Goa. I don't know if we should
translate western sensibilities or solutions to
situations that are indigenously Goan. This is my
concern. That of apathy. That we will be giving power
to an apathetic lot and power vested in such a section
of society can be gravely misused.




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[Goanet] Konkani Mass at Cranford 30th April and Goan Chaplaincy Day

[de Quadros, Ciril]

Dear Netters

Please note that a Konkani Mass will be celebrated by Fr Oliver this Sunday
30th April.

The Mass is at Our Lady and St Christopher's Catholic Church, 32 High
Street, Cranford, Middlesex TW5 9RG at 5pm, with a get-to-gather after.

Further more our first Goan Chaplaincy Day will be on Sunday 28th May 2006
at Archbishop Lanfranc School, Croydon 

Please pass on this information to anyone who you think might be interested.
Further details of both and a schedule of forthcoming masses may be obtained
by calling The Chaplaincy on 0208 665 2176 or by sending an e-mail directly
to me.

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Re: [Goanet] Protecting Goa's heritage

[Alfred de Tavares]

My good, dear Santosh,

Now you are cruelly confusing an already/chronically baffled
mind.

Please make up your mind, oh learned savant: Is the bright
Prajal a lad or a lass

Chacha Alfred



From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Protecting Goa's heritage
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:12:41 -0700 (PDT)

--- sonia gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Incidentally are you Professor Sakhardande's
>daughter ?
>

I don't know if Prajal reads posts on Goanet regularly
or not. But Prajal is one of Professor Sakhardande's
brilliant sons. He is also a professor in his own
right.

Cheers,

Santosh

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Re: [Goanet] Review of the Review by the Reviewer /Melinda Coutinho Powell

[Elisabeth Carvalho]

Hey Melinda,
It's nice to have another woman on the forum. I hope
you stick around. The testosterone here is a bit
overwhelming at times. Fred Noronhna congratulating
you on "weathering storms" has made me think of
investing in a good umbrella.

About the little fishes, you mean to say no matter
what happens they all land up at Cecil Pinto's
workshop?

Elisabeth
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--- Melinda Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Elisabeth Carvalho worte"
> I was ofcourse being flippant and resorting to
> stereotype, when adding that one-liner. However
> since
> I was not making a personal dig at any one person, I
> didn't seriously think it would offend anyone.
> Again,
> since it inadvertently did, I apologise.
> 
> Hi Elisabeth,
> 
> hey ,I wasnt really upset,just felt that I had to
> speak up for the cause --I
> still have a few loyalties left though I quit 13
> years ago.
> It is very gracious of you to apologise,now I admire
> you even more.
> I enjoy reading yr inputs,keep it up.
> 
> By the way,the rodents, fish,flora and fauna have
> decided to apply for
> Portuguese passports and migrate to cleaner
> surroundings..If that option
> fails,they are planning to go to Roland Martins
> (GOACAN) Goa civic and
> consumer forum for redressal.If that option also
> fails,they are planning to
> enlist Cecil Pinto's help(he used to run a Computer
> Institute)and learn
> typing and computer skills,so watch out .( A little
> fishie told me so)
> Regards,
> Melinda
> 
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[Goanet] I CARE FOR MARGAO INITIATIVE -- A SUCCESS

[Edward Verdes]

Re Ana Fonte Spring garden...

The surrounding compound wall itself is weak..it has already
developed cracks...and it gave way twice while construction
was going on...have to watch it in the rains.

If they wanted to use this venue for cultural programmes
they should have made sitting arrangements on all the
three sides (inplace of the surrounding wall) with some steps.

For Pajifondkar's this was a relief..otherwise that place
was stinking n breeding mosquitoes.

I understand they have stopped Catholic wedding receptions at BPS
Club...but they allow Hindu wedding receptions. Last Dec when
I was in Asro (Pajifond), there was a Hindu wedding reception, although
they dont play loud music...but the sound of the fire works was
disturbing...

Edward Verdes
Jeddah

Godfrey gonsalves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
but he also lamented the fact that the amounts
> one crore (with the Central Government  contributing
> Rs 30 lacs )spent for the rejuvenation of the  5000 m2
> area Ana Fonte (spring ) since declared open on 25
> January, 2006 was indeed misused because "the toilets
> which were to be provided and manned by Sulabh
> Sauchalaya have not been installed yet .  Even the
> paint on the facade of the spring interiors have faded
> in just three months while the flow of the spring
> waters too is not well maintained in respect to its
> cleanliness and hygiene.

> a) some citizens were wondering how come such events
> are being held at the spring venue when  earlier the
> venue was intended only for children items; both Mr

> d) the Ana Fonte garden is an excellent venue and the
> lungs of Margao -- surely there could be no better
> venue for children and women -- Mr Kamat does deserve
> the credit -- even though the project took over eight
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[Fwd: Re: [Goanet] Bubbling with ideas...]

[Frederick [FN] Noronha]

Dear Aunty, 

Can you help me to solve the major dilemmas of my life? When I sent out the 
pompous post below, the only response that I get from BC is the one-liner 
(below).

Now, I'm puzzled: however did BC come to the conclusion that I had anything 
remotely to do with civilisation and being civilised? 

Some more dilemmas: is it fair to post someone's personal mail to a list (as I 
now do)? Was it correct for BC to pay me such compliments only in private, 
instead of via the list? He was more on target earlier, while accusing me 
(rightly, of course) of being born in the favelas.

Your words of wisdom are much appreciated, and would surely help me understand 
these complex issues in context. And thank you for lending a shoulder for all 
of us to cry on! Being a Goanetter isn't a teddybear's picnic. -FN
 
> From: Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/04/26 Wed PM 01:21:01 GMT+05:30
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Bubbling with ideas...
> 
> I thought being civilised you would eat with fork and spoon?
>  
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[Goanet] ALERT: Goa's Regional Plan for 2011 set to take shape

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Goa's Draft Regional Plan for 2011, a vital document
which will give direction to the State on various sectors
including land use, will be taken up for approval by the
Goa Town & Country Planning Board on April 28.

The process which was initiated in 1999, has taken a long
time to take shape and suggestions and objections were
invited on the Draft Regional Plan and public hearing held
earlier this year. Nearly 400 objections and suggestions
had been received by the government.

The plan shows the projections of water, power requirements
and what measures the government need to take. Stress will
be on utilization of Madei water and upgradation of existing
water systems.

Goa's population is projected to reach 16.49 lakh in 2011.

As far as land utilization is concerned, the draft proposes
that the slopes above 15% may be put under plantation
horticulture or other forest plantation crops. Pastures may be
developed where irrigation is possible. Slopes upto 15% can be
utilised for various agricultural and other development activities.
Slopes above 20% should not be utilised for development of
settlement. This is exactly what was recommended in the 2001
regional plan but how it was violated is well-known.

The first Regional Plan for Goa for the perspective year 2001
was notified in 1988 by the Town and Country Planning Department
as per the provisions of the Goa, Daman and Diu Town & Country
Planning Act, 1974. A New Delhi-based consultant was appointed
for revision of the Regional Plan 2001.
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Re: [Goanet] Protecting Goa's heritage

[sonia gomes]

Hi Santosh,

I am sorry I got the gender wrong, my apologies, Prof
Sakhardande was brilliant so is it surprising that the
sons are brilliant ?

My question is how do we stop this vandalism which
goes by the name of modernisation. It really broke my
heart to see those altars torn down, shiny tiles
instead of wood and pieces of altars sold,together
with Statues, chalices, vestements. Frankly I was
horrified when I saw a chalice for sale, a shiver ran
down my back.

Regards and thanks Santosh

Sonia do Rosario Gomes


--- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- sonia gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Incidentally are you Professor Sakhardande's
> >daughter ? 
> > 
> 
> I don't know if Prajal reads posts on Goanet
> regularly
> or not. But Prajal is one of Professor Sakhardande's
> brilliant sons. He is also a professor in his own
> right.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: [Goanet] Review of the Review by the Reviewer /Melinda Coutinho Powell

[Gabe Menezes]

On 27/04/06, Melinda Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Elisabeth,
>
> hey ,I wasnt really upset,just felt that I had to speak up for the cause --I
> still have a few loyalties left though I quit 13 years ago.
> It is very gracious of you to apologise,now I admire you even more.
> I enjoy reading yr inputs,keep it up.


Comment: How sweet! Now if only the rougher sex could employ this kind
of conduct, we would have no problems on this forum!

All we get is gratuitous insults and the questioning of peoples
employment status and such like drivel.

Some think  themselves kings, unfortunately the King has no clothes on!

On another matter; the Agony Aunt post seems to have been a hit. On my
part I couldn't heed to the advice given. The dog was so far gone that
the Vet and also an animal behaviourist expert, advised me to have it
euthanized. This has been done.
--
DIE DULCI FREURE,
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England

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[Goanet] Re: Review of the Review by the Reviewer

[George Pinto]

Hi Avelino

Please note the adverse response you received was from one confused cybergoan, 
who has a history
of shooting from the hip and embarrassing himself in cyberspace. Many of us 
value and appreciate
your forwards - do not be discouraged.

Regards,
George


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> Let me remind you once again that I posted the review for awareness of
> "Holy Warriors" and comments, what I got in bargain are tons of
> accusations of all shades and color. 

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[Goanet] OFFTOPIC: Jameela Siddiqi Second Book Bombay Gardens Available

[Frederick Noronha]

Jameela Siddiqi Second Book Bombay Gardens Available

Jameela Siddiqi's long awaited second novel "Bombay Gardens" –a
comical look at polygamy and various ancient marriage practices -- now
available at www.Lulu.com

London, UK (PRWEB) April 26, 2006 -- Jameela Siddiqi, a former refugee
from Idi Amin's Uganda has just published her second novel, Bombay
Gardens, in conjunction with Lulu ( www.lulu.com ), the world's
fastest-growing provider of print-on-demand books.

Bombay Gardens is an intriguing and comical story which links a
sleepless princess, a 15th century songster and two women who meet as
strangers in London, 2000. Through their conversation, we learn the
story of Naranbhai, a Ugandan-Indian settler – a smalltime landlord
who likes to think "big-big". The book touches upon polygamy and also
the ancient Indian custom of marriage to an inanimate object – all of
which causes a certain jovial dictator to get even more curious about
the Indian settlers of this land-locked East African country.

Jameela Siddiqi's previous novel, The Feast of the Nine Virgins,
(published by Bogle L'Ouverture, London, 2001, available via amazon)
was received with critical acclaim and is now included on many
university post-colonial literature courses, including USA, Japan,
South Africa, East Africa and Singapore. She came to Lulu with her
second novel because she wanted to be in control of the publishing
process and found Lulu's print-on-demand tools to be fast, easy and,
most importantly, free. Bombay Gardens is available for purchase at
www.lulu.com, in a marketplace filled with other unique and wonderful
surprises.

Link to Publication: http://www.lulu.com/jasiddiqi

About the Author:
Jameela Siddiqi, born in Kenya and brought up in Uganda, is a
television journalist, broadcaster and music critic who has also
published numerous articles, essays and short stories. The Indian
Expulsion from Uganda, in 1972, is the underlying theme of most of
Jameela Siddiqi's fiction. She is a regular contributor to BBC Arts
programmes and is a Sony Gold Award Winner for her "Songs of the Sufi
Mystics" (1998).

About Lulu:
Founded in 2002, Lulu is the world's fastest-growing print-on-demand
marketplace for digital do-it-yourselfers. Please see www.lulu.com for
more information.

Media Contact:Jameela Siddiqi, London, UK

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[Goanet] Another Song on Modern Goa: Bombay Se Aya Mera Dost, Dost Ko Salam Koro

[JoeGoaUk]

This one, I am sure, is familiar to you all..
This is very common during wedding/ busses and picnics..

Ok, here it goes...

Original:
BOMBAY SE AYA MERA DOST,
DOST KO SALAM KORO.
RAT KO KAVO-PIVO,
DIN KO ARAM KORO

in simple English:
MY FRIEND HAS COME FROM BOMBAY
SAY 'HI' TO MY FRIEND
EAT AND DRINK WHOLE NIGHT
REST/SLEEP DURING THE DAY.

Modified:

Macazana:
U.P. SE AYE MERE DOST
DOSTOM KO SALAM KORO,
RAT KO HAVO-PIVO
BADMEIM DENEWALO KO JINDA MARO.

Margao Rly. Stn:
KASHMIR SE AYA MERA DOST
DOST KO SALAM KORO
DIN KO PURA GOA GUMO
RAT KO GHARME 'BOMB' TAYAR KORO.

Sanvordem-Churchorem:
BATKAL SE AYE MERE DOST
DOSTOM KO SALAM KORO
RAT KO BHAHARVALOM KO MILO
DIN KO DUSROM PE HAMLA KORO

Bonus song:
HU BAI HU, HU GADDI HU..
ANTAM GOEM KITEM CHOLTA TEM TUMKAM SANGPACHEM NU, OI SANGPACHEM NU.



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