[Goanet] ex PDF Govt Minister Mr Joao Baptist Gonsalves dead
Two times MLA Panaji Assembly Constituency, and ex Minister for Urban Development in the PDF Government of Mr Churchill Alemao in 1990, Mr Joao Baptist Gonsalves, a native of Colva settled in St Inez Panaji, expired today morning at 0440 a.m. after a brief illness. The funeral rites will be held tommorrow 9th May, 2006 at 0930 hrs at the Our Lady of Imaculate Conception Panaji and thereafter his cortege will leave for burial at the St Inez Cemetry. He leaves behind his wife and two children a son and daughter. late Mr Gonsalves was a self confessed baker of repute by profession, and he always took pride to publicly announce his humble beginnings ( unlike several Goans who fight shy of disclosing their traditional background) which he once did when he addressed an electoral campaign meet in Panaji in the presence of late Prime Minister Mr Rajiv Gandhi to enter the electoral fray for the first time essentially as a peoples candidate. During his tenure in politics he endured himself to his constituents with his friendly dispostion and hence easily broke the previous record being the first sitting MLA to be elected twice,(though later Mr Manohar Parrikar ex CM broke this record with a hat trick ). Mr Gonsalves was also the President of the Bakers Association and during his tenure he worked to ameliorate the cause of bakers, viz; availabity of flour, firewood etc which during the late eighties threatened the existence of our traditional poders bakers. He was associated with the Indian National Congress Party and it is only in recent times that he moved away from politics to concentrate on his traditional profession incorporating modern marketing techniques and ensuring a timely change of guard to carry on the traditional occupation. GODFREY J I GONSALVES BORDA MARGAO GOA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9822158584 __ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. http://in.answers.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Status report on India's progress - Goan skeptic stake note
--- Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly has Bill Gates got to do with your assertion about India being a superpower - So, why is it that you are card-carrying member of the Bill Melinda Gates foundation ?? Mario responds: Bosco, First of all, I don't think anyone even thinks of Bill Gates at a Seahawks game:-)) However, I'm glad you asked, though I see some signs of cynicism in your remarks. It's really very simple. Bill Gates is a proxy for what the REALLY smart people think. One needs to watch where the smart money are putting their money, and where they are not. The other proxy is Lakshmi Mittal. Watch what he does. This Indian became one of the riches people in the world while avoiding business in India because of socialism. Now he has acknowledged that things have changed, I do not expect him to wait and see. He's already done that. Smart money do not hedge their bets by betting on wildly risky propositions. Bill is not investing mega-BILLIONS in Mexico or South America or Africa or Europe or even Canada. No future superpowers expected there anytime soon. Bill Gates did not get to where he is by being stupid. Even you and Cornel may agree with this. He could invest his hard earned money anywhere he wants to. While Cornel is preaching wait and see, Bill Gates is putting BILLIONS where his mouth is, in India and China, because he believes they are FINALLY heading for economic superpower status after discarding the mindless socialism tha help them back and allowed the US and other countries to benefit instead. Perhaps we confused you by not mentioning China in a discussion on India. Bill Gates is also putting BILLIONS into Africa through his foundation, but those are charitable contributions to help them survive from HIV/AIDS. No future superpowers expected there anytime soon. The US market is far from tapped out because every home still doesn't have a PC. Even though most American families have more than one TV set and more than one car, no one thinks those mature markets are tapped out. I think you are getting unnecessarily hung up on what superpower really means. India is already an intellectual superpower. If it continues to liberalize and encourage foreign investment and free trade it will become an economic superpower. It may even become a military superpower, because that would be in the interest of the only current all around superpower, because two democratic superpowers is one way to maintain world peace. I don't need to wait and see like Cornel says the educated people only he seems to meet in India are doing. Feel free to do so yourself. I'd rather follow Bill Gates and Lakshmi Mittal and the other doers who walk the walk, not just talk the talk. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The next Gandhi: I'll make India better off than Britain
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nonetheless, as you might have realized my question was directed at the reflexive display of gratuitous contempt for the person holding an opposing viewpoint rather than for the viewpoint itself. On the latter point, I think that any absurdity or misinformation propagated in a public forum deserves to be debunked. Mario observes: I agree with Santosh. Those who show contempt for a person holding an opposing view, rather than the viewpoint itself, need to be shown all the disrespect they truly deserve, and that absurdity and misinformation in any forum deserves to be debunked. The problem is that often the same information can be lead to vastly opposing opinions, based on one's viewpoint, and absurdity can be in the eye of the beholder. If this were not so, there would be no need for a forum, just an encyclopedia. I hope Santosh's close philosophical friends are paying close attention to his sage advice. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Enlightened Christian
Santosh, I am talking of enlightened practices in the behaviorial environment; and also of enlightened 'reason' that leads to superior practices; whilst you are misleading readers into enlightenement vis soul and power of the almighty etc. What I have said, IMPLIES that one does not have to be a Christian to be an an elightened practitioner of certain practices that are the effect of good reason and being a Christian helps towards this; Hindu philosophy on the other hand, in practice, seems to be the anti thesis of this. This is my view; and I have no intention nor do I want to be dragged into any discourse on philosophy; because I am not competent in that area. So I stick to what I see, in the practical evolution of these theories. You have tried to take away from me, my propogation of 'practical (non ghettoisation) harmonious living of different cultures' and actual participation in the essence of various cultures, without adherence to taboos and hang ups of the past. What is in practice is what counts, ultimately! A truly multicultural person or community should be able to make choices and partcipate in the good within various cultures, without some taboo or dogma holding them back. Or else IT SIMPLY MEANS SEPERATE LIVING, SEGREGATION and APARTHIED like system, without even minimal integration! What you are content with is multicultural ghettos tolerating and respecting others, yet living in their own 'narrow' world. I am not content with that! That is why I want India to be an integrated great society, where brahmin and chamar will sit at the same table, and partake of each others food etc; where Hindu of any caste, will be' liberated' enough to partake and discourse with a Muslim, Christian, Jain, or non believer,( and vice versa). In this scenario it would mean that a liberated Hindu or Muslim would be able to sit and eat what he likes in a non Hindu, non Muslim eating place. As a Christian or with Christian 'liberated' cultural background, I should be able to meet with any person who may not be of my persuasion, and partake of our choice of food etc, in any or all places without negative encumbrances. This sort of exchange is possible for me in enlightend modern countries, but not in India. Recently I met some Indian athletes who were here in Melbourne for the Games; we had a civic reception cum Indian Cultural event hosted by the Indian Community, to make these guys feel at home as well as to project Indian Culture to Australia and the world. This was held at the Town Hall, the use if which was made available for free by the Lord Mayor and his Council. Outside there were stalls displaying Indian cultural wares and food stalls of the traditional narrow unliberated variety of food. I asked two of these visiting Indians as to what places they would go to eat in and tour in multicultural Australia. Their answer was that they would tour as much as possible but they would only visit Indian Restaurants and Indian homes, as one was a vegetarian and the other was used to only mutton and chicken India stye. I said: but in multicultural Australia one can get best of vegetarian food and the best of lamb and chicken in almost all restaurants, not only Indian. I also said to them: when I first set foot outside India in the 1960's, I went to a non Indian restaurant where I could taste and partake in the wonderful variety of food and culturally diverse cuisines. That they do not know what they are missing! They should open themselves up, instead of being bogged down in their narrow vision of the world: To which they kindly replied that they would like to; but for the fact that whilst in India they are brought up thus; and therefore just not unable to partake in other cultures. I said, I could and did, because I was truly liberated from dogma and traditions. You see, that is why I say that the Goan Christian or Indian Christian culture is truly liberated and enlightened! So we can make ourselves at home anywhere and everywhere and with anyone; and partake of 'joie de vivre'. This is how it should be for everyone; Damn the taboos and the stuck up ideas of the past! This is my last posting on this thread; Thanks to all for reading me. Sincerely speaking, Nasci Caldeira. -- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: [Goanet] Enlightened Christian Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 16:26:42 -0700 (PDT) The common understanding of multiculturalism and enlightenment has no resemblance with what has been described in this thread so far. In the secular tradition enlightenment is synonymous with knowledge achieved by the free exercise of reason. Indeed, the Age of Enlightenment is deemed to be a rejection of myth and superstition, etc. Actually, India has a much longer tradition of rationalistic thinking of this type embedded within the ancient
[Goanet] Botanical Society of Goa - Working towards a green future.
Dears, If you are interested in plants or doing something for Goa, log on to http://bsg.goa-india.org/ and see what you can do in Goa and/or for Goa. It has stories of what people are already doingother than talking about how bad everything is. Viva Goa. Miguel _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Orientation on democracy for King makers
Orientation and familiarization is very useful when one begins a new adventure/work. eg. Teachers have orientation courses, may it be freshers or seniors. .Many professional have to undergo some sort of orientation programme. This is with the view that the persons involved get to know the exact nature of work, rights and duties or new developments or new challenges, expectations from them, likely problems that will come up in the course of their work, ways and methods of approach to tackle the problem etc etc.. Useful tips are discussed in this kind of orientation seminars and workshops, which go a long way in making a person more comfortable with the task ahead. You ask any MLA/MP about the preamble and the Indian constitutional provisions. How many of them will know the general welfare concept of the State, how many of them know the fundamental rights and directive principles ?. Infact, the Indian constitution embodies all that is required for a civil society to co-exist and enjoy the economic benefits for all. Today there is lot of debate on reservations etc.. did these MLA's/MP's ever reflected on the possible reasons as to on what basis and why this provision was made ? what is the history behind this ? NO .. if they had, then today we would not see so many still below poverty line, and we would not see a handful SC/ST more richer than some of our businessmen. To help the prospective legislators/executive body of this country, we urgently need some sort of training courses, orientation. I recommend that all those who want to contest elections right from the lower end (Panch, Councilors, MLA, MP) should mandatory be made aware of their duties and responsibilities to society. Maybe some sort of exam must be taken (not necessarily in line with formal education system). Modelities must be worked out how best this can be done. In democracy, driving license is not given because a person is popular, charismatic leader etc.. but by undergoing a driving test etc.. similarly all candidates must pass some kind of test to apply for post of representative of people. Of course, right now we have some requirements like a person must Indian citizen, must complete a certain age say 30 years of age, etc. As societies are progressing and moving at a fast pace, we must raise our bars. Care must be taken not to exclude certain categories but to allow 'disciplined' people to run the country. Discipline and love of community does not necessarily come from formal education though, than whatever is required needs to be done to inculcate these virtues in the representative of people. Only a political fool will turn around and say that right now and for so many years the country has been managed ? and today India is moving towards being a superpower ? what is superpower ? increase in crimes of all sorts, robberies, murders, rapes, riots, etc.. or is it military and economic power only. For me, a superpower would mean decrease in crimes year by year, economic progress and prosperity for people, bread and butter for all including other basic needs and good things of life must be enjoyed by all and rule of law. Assets declaration was enforced by Election Commission , I hope this will also come in effect sooner than latter. I also hope assets are also re-checked after every 5 years, to see how much more gains/losses these representative have made. In brief, the representative must be aware, qualified in good moral values, well disciplined . These subjective values must be brought out or tested in an objective way to finalise the list of people who can contest the elections or put to vote. Goa can take a lead in this, instead of trying to take lead in compulsory HIV test before marriage . Again this is optional to be made compulsory for cabinet ministers, if they want. Regards, Raul Carneiro love happiness always _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Goa bans rave, trance parties
Surely this must rank as one of Dr.Willy's best jokes. A decision taken at the peak of the foreign tourist season is being implemented two months after its end! Anyone connected with tourism knows that the foreign tourist flow becomes a trickle by mid-March and is almost dried up in May. So WHO is supposed to be holding RAVE parties in May for whom?? The 'fake' hotelier from Anjuna would definitely not liked to be named...lest he/she/it be referred to IPHB as a possible in-patient. How can the police seize DRUGS at a rave party. there is no such thing as 'drugs' in their list of NDPS. It must be a hallucination if someone things that there are 'drugs' in Goa. Goa is pure ecstasy. the weather gives the foreigners a 'high' ;-( The ban, if implemented, may only affect a village zatra or quermesse this season. By the end of rains no one will remember the ban. It is just a mere coincidence that Dr.Willy has brought in the saintly looking Mr. N.Suryanarayan to assist Fatima D'Sa in the GTDC ...and they will be having a blast at the INOX courtyard for the GRAPE ESCAPADE this wekend. Will it end at ten?? Or is it technically away from the beach [ and hence out of the ban] like the hotel coming up at Dona Paula near Raj Bhavan? Viva Goa. Miguel - Original Message - Goa bans rave, trance parties By: Nishant A Bhuse and Mayuresh Pawar Mid Day May 8, 2006 Holding rave and trance parties at all public places will be banned in Goa after 10 pm. The government has also decided to halt all beach parties after 10 pm. The decision, which was taken in December by Goa's Deputy Chief Minister Dr Wilfred D'Souza who also holds the tourism portfolio, is finally being implemented now. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Singapore need....
I intend visiting Singapore shortly, any goans there to help with accomodation for about a week ? regds Preetam _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Veronica and Iran
I agree entirely with Veronica, a confrotation with Iran will not only be a economic/jenvironmental disaster for the Mid-East, but for the whole world. Veronica is airing his views, Gabe and Mario who imagine they are the Ayotallah's of Iran by stating that in the event of attacking Iran nothing disastrous will occur are absolutely wrong. Preetam _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Governor Jamir: Diversity of fruits reflects diverse India
Governor Jamir: Diversity of fruits reflects diverse India Panaji (Goa) May 7, 2006: India is a land of varied seasons where different varieties of fruits are available throughout the year and the diverse but distinct tastes of the fruits reflect India, our Motherland, said His Excellency SC Jamir the Governor of Goa. Participating in the 4th Annual Konkan Fruit Festival here this afternoon, Jamir said that India is a diverse land but a land of unity in diversity. Our Motherland is known for her ability to bind the people together irrespective of region or religion, he said. Let this land of fruits and flowers with sweet taste and distinct aroma bind us together and make us live in peace and harmony. Pointing out that the country has various world famous fruits such as the Alphonso mangoes of the Konkan region, Raspoori and Neelam mangoes of Karnataka and Kerala, passion fruits of the Northeast and Kashmiri apples of the North, Jamir said fruits, like flowers bind the human minds. In our Indian culture, fruits and flowers are part and parcel of festivals including religious practices, he said adding that besides nutritive values, fruits convey enormous goodwill and joy. Organised by the Goa Botanical Society, the annual Konkan Fruit Festivals draw hundreds of farmers and growers to display various locally available fruits. There were more than fifty varieties of mangoes on display and also various other fruits such as Jackfruit, Banana, cashew, star fruit, beans, etc to name a few. Various other botanical plants of medicinal values were also on display. His Excellency was accompanied by his Lady wife Smt Alemla Jamir and Officer on Special Duty to the Governor, Sebastian Zumvu. Issued by the OSD to Governor Goa Event photo at http://www.goanet.org _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Narayana Murthy on Reservations
Narayana Murthy speaks out on Reservations. BANGALORE: Standards cannot be lowered in the industry or academia for students who may not be competitive or for those who may have lost out in the employment race, Infosys mentor N R Narayana Murthy said on Tuesday. Speaking after receiving the Citizen Extraordinaire Award from Rotary Bangalore Midtown here, he said higher educational institutions will have to be given the autonomy to decide on issues relating to academics. He called for greater autonomy for educational institutions and greater effort to build educational infrastructure. International business does not care about race, colour or about who comes from which section. International revenue does not bother about such social restrictions. India will have to take note of this, he pointed out. The state would be generating 200,000 jobs in the next couple of years, while it produced only 100,000 engineers in all. We will need outside support. We, in fact, already have outside support to the industry. We need to be more tolerant and welcoming. He pointed out that software exports were growing at 35 per cent every year but educational infrastructure was not. Bangalore generated $8.3 billion of the $23 billion exports the state generated in software, he said calling for an increase in share of software exports from 37 per cent to 70 per cent . Murthy commended the state for contributing 20 per cent of the states GDP and the highest disposable income. No other industry has done this so far.We can only do better. He called for more star hotels to accommodate international businessmen visiting India in these globally competitive times. He also called for greater access to English-medium schools for poor students. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Cardinal Dias Deplores Anti-Christian Films
Hello Nasci, Thanks for your response. It was good. I happened to see the movie Martin Luther, the priest who rebelled against the catholic church and started the Protestant denomination of Christians. He was the first person to translate the entire Bible in German giving the precedent to other translators in other languages. Until I saw the movie, I always assumed that the Martin Luther was in fact Marin Luther King the civil rights fighter of USA. As Elizabeth brought the point of the subject of Gospels the rejected ones by the Catholic Church, I don't find it used even by other denominations. So does it mean its wrong of the Catholic church or every Christian church? Why could they have rejected it? In fact in the Catholic Bible, there are 73 books where as the other denomination use 66 books. Is it wrong for any priest or bishop to warn its people about something like movies or books that are in the market? When I look back at the old testament, I find that the very first human creation Adam and Eve, the closest to God with all provisions at their disposal, fell for the temptation. They believed the satan and ate the apple. So if they could fall, what about the people with weak faith? What is there for them to fall at the slight pretext? So is it wrong for those shepherds to guide their flock in the right directions? Cheers Jerry Fernandes _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The next Gandhi: I'll make India better off than Britain
I have no idea if John Mill really said what Elisabeth says he said, but on the off chance that readers may mistake John Mill for a modern political liberal, the following are some encyclopedic excerpts to show that John Mill was in every sense a modern political conservative-libertarian in the mold of Ronald Reagan: 1. In the following year he was introduced to political economy and studied Adam Smith and David Ricardo with his father--ultimately completing their classical economic view of factors of production. 2. One foundational book on the concept of liberty was On Liberty, about the nature and limits of the power which can be legitimately exercised by society over the individual. 3. Mill's main economic philosophy was one of laissez faire. 4. Many cadets at the U.S Air Force Academy best remember him for the following quotation, which is required memorization for all fourthclassmen. War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. Mario. --- Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Santosh, Although I agree with you in the main, I think the distinction between the viewpoint and the person who holds that viewpoint is a blurred and tenuous one. If one holds a certain belief, I think we extrapolate that the person acts in a certain manner consistent with the view he/she holds. As John Mill said Conservatives are not necessarily stupid but most stupid people are conservative. :)) Elisabeth PS: No offence meant to conservatives, just using the quote to make my point. -- --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elisabeth, Nonetheless, as you might have realized my question was directed at the reflexive display of gratuitous contempt for the person holding an opposing viewpoint Cheers, Santosh _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goa news for May 10, 2006
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa Tourism to woo global tourists (Business Standard India) Facing tough competition from various tourist destinations, the Goa Tourism department has invited bids from various agencies to professionally market the state to global visitors. http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?autono=90453leftnm=3subLeft=0chkFlg= *** Mahindra United win NFL (rediff.com) Mahindra United clinched their maiden National Football League title after East Bengal lost to Sporting Club de Goa 1-3. http://www.rediff.com/rss/redirect.php?url=http://www.rediff.com/sports/2006/may/09nfl.htm *** Honorarium sought for Goa freedom fighters (Deccan Herald) Goa Freedom Fighters Association on Sunday said that Chief Minister H D Kumaaraswamy has assured it of re-introducing the scheme of providing honourarium for Goa freedom fighters, hailing from Karnataka. http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/may82006/state191919200657.asp *** Mahindra clinch maiden title (The Telegraph) Margao: Mahindra United on Monday clinched their maiden National Football League (NFL) title after East Bengal lost to Sporting Club de Goa 1-3 at the Nehru Stadium here on Monday. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060509/asp/sports/story_6200578.asp *** Central agency to help CCP set up garbage plant in city (Navhind Times) Panaji, May 9: The Goa State Pollution Control Board today informed that the Central Pollution Control Board has agreed to bear 50 per cent of the cost for setting up a solid waste management plant for the city of Panaji. http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=051024 *** J B Gonsalves passes away (Navhind Times) Panaji, May 8: Former civil supplies minister and former Panaji MLA, Mr J B Gonsalves passed away after a brief illness at the Goa Medical College Hospital in the early hours of today. He was 70 and is survived by wife, Ms Maria Conceicao, son, Mr Siegfred and daughter, Ms Sicletica Carmen. http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=050968 *** Dirty linen sickens Hospicio patients (Navhind Times) Margao, May 8: Hospicio Hospital, the South Goa district hospital in the city, is facing a serious problem with respect to the provision of clean linen to patients as the 140-bedded hospital is without a linen washing or laundry department. http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=050969 *** Goa bans rave, trance parties (Mid Day) Holding rave and trance parties at all public places will be banned in Goa after 10 pm. The government has also decided to halt all beach parties after 10 pm. http://web.mid-day.com/news/city/2006/may/136859.htm *** Setback for national chess champion ahead of Olympiad (Yahoo! India News) National champion Surya Shekar Ganguly seems to be having a tough time these days. At a time when the rest of the Indian squad is sharpening its skills under GM Elizbar Ubilava, Viswanathan AnandÃ#130;s second, at the Olympiad preparatory camp in Goa, the city-based GM spent the last 10 days in a local hospital there, recovering from severe viral infection. The ace chess player, who was discharged http://in.news.yahoo.com/060509/48/644sx.html *** Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh spent a night on INS [Indian Navy Ship] Virat off the Goa coast to get a feel of naval(India Daily) Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh spent a night on INS [Indian Navy Ship] Virat off the Goa coast to get a feel of naval exercises. Dr Singh was quite at home on the vessel getting a first-hand experience of how men in white fare at sea. http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/8492.asp Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Vitorino Pereira to be the chief guest at the 5th Konkani One Act Play Competition in Kuwait
Vitorino Pereira one of the exponents of the Konkani Khell-tiatr in Goa will be the chief guest at the 5th Konkani One Act play competition organized by the United Club of Utorda. The competition will be held on Friday May 12, 2006 at the Hawalli A/C Auditorium at 3.30 p.m. sharp. Vitorino Pereira is the son of the famous Konkani play writer late Santiago Pereira. Vitorino commenced his professional career in the late sixties and was instrumental in introducing budding talents and making them stars of the Konkani stage. Vitorino has written many tiatrs with themes of social and cultural significance and he has carved a niche on Konkani stage. Vitorino's presence in Kuwait during the Konkani One Act play contest will be a boon to the rising stars of Konkani stage in Kuwait. United Club of Utorda (UCU) is a cultural organization formed in Kuwait in 2001 with the aims and objectives to explore and encourage hidden talents of budding Konkani artistes, singer, lyricists, play-writers and directors. Having been motivated by excellent response from Konkani speaking fraternity in Kuwait, UCU presented its first Konkani One Act Play Competition in Kuwait in February 2002. This contest served as a springboard for experimentation to present One Act Plays with varied thematic significance. The One Act Play Competition soon became an annual feature from 2002 to 2005. During these years the Konkani loving audience lauded the efforts of UCU in organizing such pioneering contests in the interest and for the benefit of young talents in their respective areas of artistic value. Following are the plays to be presented for the competition: Nivar Amkam - Felix de Merces Mujim Panch Bottam - Salu de Betalbatim Bharat - Joe Ferreira (Assolna) Ho Pordes - Ignatius de Xelvon Be on time to witness Kuwait's budding artistes in action. on stage, for your entertainment. Remember it's United Club of Utorda-Kuwait's efforts to promote the very best and talented Konkani stage artistes! _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] goanet progesses as new voices are heard
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I DEMAND an apology from you for calling the members of this net barbarians. Secondly, this is not a forum for barbarians. Mario responds: Mervyn, you will get an apology about the time hell begins to cool after the current cycle of global warming:-)) Mario, I do not need the apology. You called YOURSELF a barbarian. You need to apologize to yourself first. The second apology has to be directed to the members of this net, most who have distinguished themselves in their fields, for YOU calling them barbarians. Thirdly, it's quite clear to all the members here that this is the first time you have been allowed to mingle in a Goan group. Its clear because your behaviour here shows that: 1) You do not know how to respect other members. 2) You do not know how to respect yourself. 3) You gleefully describe yourself as a barbarian. Lastly, get someone to explain to you what Cornel said in his post. Mervyn3.0 A man can fail, but he isn't a failure until he blames someone else. - J. Paul Getty (businessman) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Catholic Union seeks security, economic development for Christians in India
ALL INDIA CATHOLIC UNION Hyderabad Meeting of Catholic Union Working committee demands security, economic development for Christians in India Press Statement Hyderabad, 8 May 2006 The All India Catholic Union has demanded that Central and State governments in India take urgent and effective steps to ensure the security of the Christian community, its churches and religious personnel, and to ensure full opportunities for its economic and social development, especially among the Dalit, rural and tribal areas. The Catholic Union's working committee in its two day session in Hyderabad noted with great anxiety the rapid erosion in security of the community during 2005 and 2006, after a brief interval of peace and tranquility when the Congress-led UPA replaced the NDA government of the BJP in 2004. Dr John Dayal, Catholic Union President and Member of the Government of India's National integration Council, presided over the Working committee meeting. The meeting was hosted by the Catholic Association of Hyderabad led by its president Mr. Martin and AICU State president Advocate James Sylvester. In its final statement, the AICU working committee noted that the situation had reached alarming proportions in states ruled by the BJP and its allies, especially Rajasthan, Gujarat, Orissa, Chhattisgarh and Madhya Pradesh. Even other states such as Madhya Pradesh, Karnataka and even Andhra were not free of some violence. In Rajasthan and Gujarat particularly, the Catholic Union told Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in a letter, it seemed that the state government was functioning on laws that had nothing to do with the Constitution of India. Even the police and the lower judiciary were playing to the tune of the BJP masters in Jaipur and Gandhinagar. The Union said the Central government can, if it so wants, ensure that errant States do not enforce bigoted regulations or discriminate on grounds of religion as if they were not bound by the niceties of the country's historic secular ethos and its international commitments. A decline in the sense of confidence and security of weak religious and other minorities does take away from what an 8 or 10 per cent annual economic growth seeks to build. The Catholic Union decided to join other Christian apex organisations in challenging in the courts the so called Freedom of Religion bill which had been passed in unholy haste by the Rajasthan government in a single-minded pursuit of a communal agenda. The banning of books by Rajasthan and the full participation of the police in prosecuting people on concocted charges seemed as the state now had a religious police on the lines of the religious totalitarian regimes. The Union also noted with alarm the naked display of armed might by the RSS in Jhansi in Uttar Pradesh even as people in many parts were participating in democratic elections to State assemblies, has traumatised minorities far and away. The entire nation saw on live Television the private army of the RSS boastfully marches through the city with guns in their hands - many of them modern weapons and some muskets which exist in large numbers in both rural and urban India. The commanders of this private army left no one in any doubt why they had graduated from the wooden lathis or staves on to modern automatic weapons. Equally bizarre and violent in impact, though differently, was the Gujarat government's annexation of the Leprosarium in Ahmadabad, the sacking of the half a dozen Catholic Religious Sisters, or Nuns, who were in charge, and their final ejection from the Ave Maria Convent in the institute which had been their home for Sixty years. The Union urged the Prime Minister that the time has come for a serious look at this pattern of hate against Christians. This is not the average communal riot or victimization which sporadically bursts out, and then dies out. This is a sustained terror campaign against our community, even if each incident is separated from the next in space and time. The working committee made the following demands from the Union government, the government of Andhra Pradesh and some other state governments towards the security and welfare of the community 1. The Union Government must consider comprehensive political and administrative measures under the Constitution that send out the correct signals to the guilty, and extend assurances to the victims. The Supreme Court also has a role in it and can direct states to take appropriate action. 2. Government must help expedite the Justice Misra Commission report on Christians of SC origin so that the issue can be brought to a conclusion also in the Supreme Court. The case could not be taken up on the last due date of 5 April. The Union condemns attempts by the lobby of senior bureaucrats to delay the report. 3. The AICU urges the Planning Commission, the new ministry for Minority Affairs end other departments to ensure equitable devolution of funds and opportunities to Christians, specially to the
Re: [Goanet] Re: Status report on India's progress - Goanskepticstake note
--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't teach as per your post. However, unlike you, I do think before I open my mouth. Apropos Bill Gates, he is a philanthropist dying to give his money away. His forays in India are not to make more money but to give it away. His 'saintedness' in India is legendary as many a youth in India would illuminate your ignorant good self. Mario observes: I should have said preach, not teach :-)) An example is your bogus assertion that YOU KNOW FOR A FACT that Bill Gates lives to give his money away. I just heard Bill Gates interviewed last night by Donny Deutsch on CNBC for a whole hour, and can confirm that EVERYTHING that Cornel has written above comes from palpable ignorance of the man and certainly did not come from thinking before writing the post above. If it did, God help us:-)) The overly educated Cornel, who knows beans about free market capitalism and looks down on uneducated people - i.e. people who disagree with him - doesn't even know the difference between the uneducated Bill Gates of Microsoft, the aggressive businessman whose goal is to lead and dominate the computer software industry well into the future, and the philanthropist Bill Gates of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation who gives away billions of dollars that he has earned from his brilliance and foresight and from being at the right place at the right time in industrial history. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Dalgago Award for Shri Tendulkar
Mr.Prabhakar Tendulkar of Mapusa rightly deserves to be awarded the Monsenhor Sebastiao Rudolph Dalgado Award for the year 2006. This award is presented to him for his contribution for the literary work in Roman Konkani. Infact, he deserved this award much earlier in life. He is known all over the state, especially in the Konkani circuit for his educative and literary articles. He has several books to his credit in Roman as well as in Devnagri script. A man who has lifted many amateur Romi Konkani writers to limelight their articles in several aspects through various magazines and periodicals, one of them is being me. I've always considered him as my GURU, for the fact that he has always been there to guide me through my works in correct diction and has helped me publish my articles by proof reading them. Since the time he has been editing 'Goencho Porzol', 'Goencho Pormol' and the weekly 'Goykar', it has been a privilege to be associated with this Romi Konkani Literary Pundit. He has worked hard during the Konkani agitation and has headed the Konkani Porjecho Avaz in North Goa. He was in the forefront and had gathered a huge gathering of Konkani lovers for the Konkani Jyot that traveled right from Pernem to Canacona that resulted in the birth of a new Romi Konkani daily called 'Novem Goem' edited by Gurunath Kelekar. Mr. Tendulkar formed an organization called 'Konkani Kendra' which gathered a vast fan club of konkani lovers and writers. They met every weekend, read their poems and articles, had various discussions through which they shared their love for the language through their views. Being a member of this Kendra and holding the post of the secretary, I was convinced that I could too make some contribution towards my mother tongue in a way of my own. And hence was conceived the idea for my very own monthly magazine, Konkanicho Darvontto, which wouldn't stay for very long on book stands as the sales kept rising and thus was published for over two and a half years. Mr. Tendulkar was a guiding force for all our efforts in this field. As I pay my respect to this great personality on this auspicious occasion, I would like to congratulate Mr. Tendulkar and wish him good health. Viva Dalgado Konknni Akademi !! Alfonso Bond Braganza Mhapxeam Goy. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Indian Embassy introduces machine-readable passports
Alan You raise an interesting point about how the passport machine will read many a Goan surname. In my own case my birth certificate spells my surname, unusually, as DaCosta. I was intrigued by this spelling, later in life, as my dad always used D'Costa. I then discovered that the scribe providing the birth certificate in my case in Mombasa, Kenya, was a Scot called McDonald! He could not envisage names spelt other than the Scottish way! However, I have been told by Portuguese experts, that DaCosta is feminine! But it could easily have been the masculine DeCosta! My maculinity however is not in question! Although I have been consistent with DaCosta on all documentation, I get tired of my surname being spelt incorrectly and changeably as da Costa, de Costa, D'Costa etc. but do accept DACOSTA as many a machine has no provision for a little 'a' for DaCosta. I suppose that many of us can't win with careless people recording surnames and first names incorrectly or for some obscure convention, and that, the new machine readable schema, will cause the kind of headaches described by you. Cornel PS I am also a minimalist and have a preference, like you, for just the Christian name on Goanet despite the expressed ire of a certain Mario Goveia! - Original Message - From: Alan Dias [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:36 AM Subject: [Goanet] Re: Indian Embassy introduces machine-readable passports These machine readable passport from Indian Embassy do not support the hypen character and the apostorphe. If your surname is D'Souza or Costa-Souza the passport is printed as D Souza and Costa Souza. Effectively this means that your name differs in the birth certificate and passport. These were introduced in Goa early this year. Attempts to correct ones name (if you have a - or ') at the passport office is futile. Those who apply for student visas later or jobs abroad for work permits will certainly have issues. Alan _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] BAN FILMS - PROTEST RALLY
This reminds me of the time, the Catholic Church decided to ban/boycott Carnivale in Goa. In addition to circulating various untruths, this bald-faced lie was part of the propaganda machine. That there was a substantial increase in abortions following Carnivale. For this to transpire, the following would have to occur: a) all the unwed girls in Goa would miraculously synchronise their ovulation with Carnival. b) all the young men would forget that such a thing as a condom exists. c) all courting couples who have otherwise shown restraint will throw caution to the winds and have unprotected sex only because it is carnivale. And lastly for this claim to be substantiated in the first place, someone would have to go around all the abortion clinics and make a survey, demanding to know whether they had sex at the Panjim Club Nationale Dance or the Margao Black and Red Dance. So much for wanting to ban fiction! Elisabeth --- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lavy I regret I have to disagree strongly with your position on banning films like the Da Vinci Code. In a democracy, people should be free to make up their own minds about any films without outrageous moves to censorship as proposed by a minority. Cornel - Original Message - From: Edward Verdes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goanet goanet@goanet.org Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:15 PM Subject: [Goanet] BAN FILMS - PROTEST RALLY - Original Message - From: LAVY D'COSTA To: SECULAR FORCE SECULAR FORCE Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:27 AM Subject: BAN FILMS - PROTEST RALLY - FWD. MAIL TO YOUR CONTACTS Dear Friends, Thank you for your immense support. We now move on to the next stage of our campaign that requires your participation. A Protest Rally on WEDNESDAY, MAY 10, 2006 AT 6.00 P.M. AT THE CANOSSA CONVENT SCHOOL GROUND, NEAR MAHIM RLY. STATION, MAHIM (W), MUMBAI 400 016. It is your presence and that of your friends that will send a message across to the Government and Political Parties of all hues that Christians cannot be taken for granted. If we are present in large numbers at the Rally, we will be able to impress on the Govt. and its machinery to ban 'Tickle My Funny Bone' and 'The Da Vinci Code'. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Enlightened Christian
Hi Gilbert, Have just noted what you said below but how do you know what you say is fact? Just intrigued! Regards Cornel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 12:02 PM Subject: [Goanet] Enlightened Christian To all participating in this thread, please remember: God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts... And Some wear their halos a bit too tight. Kind Regards, GL _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Identify this beautiful Garden (with Answer)
It's Panaji near Bus Stand, opp.Paulo Travels booking office or opp. Rego Hotel or near the two bridge circle. Dr.B.R.Ambedkar http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/141251657/ 7 entries so far with 4 correct entries from: Miguel Branganza Vivian D'Souza Carmlin Souza Oscar Lobo So far viewed by over 210. Prev. Miramar viewed by over 245 Here is another bonus (same garden) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/143391346/ Thank you all those who participated. Another one coming up soon.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: The debate on non-reservations and now Canada
Helga do Rosario Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From your posts Mervyn, I have already figured out that Canada is the best country to live in! If only we could be so lucky. Helga, I moved to Canada from the US. The reward? Canada has been voted by the UN as the best country in the world to live in about ten times in the dozen years I have been here. Come on over, it is a great country. My comment is in regard to Canadian job postings that I read in 'EOS', the American Geophysical Union's newsletter and other Earth Sciences job sites which state that Canadian citizens and permanent residents will be given preference. Specifically, last week I saw an advertisement for a Chair at the Geology Dept of the U of Toronto. I dont know about Canadian colleges being second to none but I will take your word for it as you have probably studied in one? Unfortunately, no. I have not studied in any Canadian college. By the time I arrived in Canada, there was almost nothing more to learn in my field. As for discrimination - although I do not have statistics on racial discrimination in Canada (and one needs numbers to make such a serious accusation), I have read two articles in Goa Voice, Canada, one of which stated that new and colored immigrants find it hard to get jobs while the second states that first generation Canadians of Asian parentage are often sidelined for white kids in the job market. Although anecdotal, many of my friends from Goa, Bombay and the Middle East who have immigrated to Canada have found it very hard to get jobs - especially the men and they have complained of being severely discriminated. Or are they are plain incompetent? A social worker friend who works at Etobikoke has been bitterly disappointed with the complains of racial discrimination especially from African families. It doesnt surprise me but its also not something I want to discuss any further. It seems very strange to me that you would introduce a topic (discrimination in Canada) and at the end of that very introduction, insist that you do not want to discuss it :-( As far as Goan immigrants are concerned, I have only heard of one case of a family moving back to India. In that particular case, the dad had a very popular band in Mumbai. What does concern me is that in your effort to nail Mario Gouveia you do a great disserve to many of us who do not agree with this regime as well to almost half the American police who did not choose this government. Surely this is a Freudian slip? There are plenty of Americans who are against the death penalty, who fight for equal rights, same sex marriages just as there are plenty of Canadians (including those who claim to be Goans) who vociferously oppose the same sex marriage ruling in Canada. Plenty is not enough. It's the majority that count and who get to update the laws. Does Canada not have its conservatives who are very much against immigration and the changing demography of their country? Canada needs 250,000 immigrants every year to maintain the standard of living we have. All four political parties understand this and actively encourage migration. You also do yourself a disserve because you come across as the archetypical Canadian whose greatest sport is American bashing. Well, much as I would like to be liked by all, I cannot please everyone who reads what I write. You could do better Mervyn - perhaps you could even advise the droves of Goans who have taken the plunge into the icy cold waters of Canada and help them get through the first few difficult years. In my opinion those postings would be extremely valuable to our Goans rather than your polemics with Mario. Helga, like most of the people here, we are having fun with Mario but I go get your point. Secondly, I have offered, even here on Goanet, to help new immigrants to Canada. There are many other forums where you opinions would hold more import. As for 'Perhaps the US should take a clue from us' I am sure that the USA has a lot to learn from other countries and vice versa. As a very interesting article in last week's NYT magazine has pointed out, Reinhold Niebuhr an intellectual who shaped the foreign policy of early Democrats (Americans for Democratic Action) argued that 'Americans should not emulate the absolute confidence of their enemies' (then the Communists) rather 'they should cultivate enough self-doubt to ensure that their idealism never degenerated into fanaticism'. There is benefit in humility and there is a lesson to learn everywhere. Perhaps, the US should learn from its friends, particularly the French. Here is a quote from a Frenchman: Power is not revealed by stricking hard or often, but by stricking true. _Honore de Balzac (novelist) Lastly since I have taken the time to try and respond to your questions, can you attempt to answer just one of mine? The question I have is: In your
Re: [Goanet] RE: what is needed is a MASTER PLAN FOR GOAN TRAFFIC (ROAD)SAFETY
From: N Chandrasekharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] By and large, there is a NEGATIVE VOTE for Road Safety, from its own users! Mario observes: Aux contraire. I saw some POSITIVE PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS designed to ACTUALLY WORK! _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Enlightened Christian
Incredible! Another waste of cyberspace by Santosh with a comment that means nothing:-)) --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incredible! A sentence meant to evoke a response did. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] goanet progesses as new voices are heard
On 07/05/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I DEMAND an apology from you for calling the members of this net barbarians. I say, if the shoe fits, wear it. If it doesn't, then one has nothing to worry about. RESPONSE: Yes Mervyn, no need to get agitated. For now we know for sure and confirmed, there is just one Barbarian on this forum.The definition of a Barbarian I had posted earlier. The one barbarian wrote thus:- ''I believe their presence will serve to civilize the discourse and the barbarians among us, of which I am certainly one'' Once again the true barbarian:- ''1 : of or relating to a land, culture, or people alien and usually believed to be inferior to another land, culture, or people 2 : lacking refinement, learning, or artistic or literary culture'' .From Webster. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Rooting for Goa
Radhakrishnan, Is this guy Jerry, who is obscenely critical of diasporic Goans really shovelling something or the other in Kuwait? Where are his brains pray? Cornel - Original Message - From: Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:16 AM Subject: [Goanet] Re: Rooting for Goa We Goans need more people like you two who will go back to their roots rather than Migrating to Canada, Australia, New Zealand and all the white countries and showelling shit over there (with the lame excuse - Burgeank lagon kortanv) Hey, what the heck are you doing in Kuwait? --RKN _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] BAN FILMS - PROTEST RALLY
Lavy I regret I have to disagree strongly with your position on banning films like the Da Vinci Code. In a democracy, people should be free to make up their own minds about any films without outrageous moves to censorship as proposed by a minority. Cornel - Original Message - From: Edward Verdes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goanet goanet@goanet.org Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:15 PM Subject: [Goanet] BAN FILMS - PROTEST RALLY - Original Message - From: LAVY D'COSTA To: SECULAR FORCE SECULAR FORCE Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:27 AM Subject: BAN FILMS - PROTEST RALLY - FWD. MAIL TO YOUR CONTACTS Dear Friends, Thank you for your immense support. We now move on to the next stage of our campaign that requires your participation. A Protest Rally on WEDNESDAY, MAY 10, 2006 AT 6.00 P.M. AT THE CANOSSA CONVENT SCHOOL GROUND, NEAR MAHIM RLY. STATION, MAHIM (W), MUMBAI 400 016. It is your presence and that of your friends that will send a message across to the Government and Political Parties of all hues that Christians cannot be taken for granted. If we are present in large numbers at the Rally, we will be able to impress on the Govt. and its machinery to ban 'Tickle My Funny Bone' and 'The Da Vinci Code'. Read on and forward this message to your contacts. See you all in large numbers on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 6.00 p.m. at the Canossa Convent School Ground, Mahim. Wtih kind regards Lavy A. D'Costa 98193 77556 = Dear Friends in Christ, Sub: Catholic Bishops' Conference of India takes note of anti-movies campaign. Bishops act on appeal. Now attend Protest Rally in Thousands - Bishops, Priests, Nuns... Request Announcement - At Masses / In Communities - Each One, Tell One Spread the word around. WEDNESDAY, MAY 10, 2006, 6.00 P.M. CANOSSA CONVENT SCHOOL GROUNDS MAHIM (W), NEAR MAHIM RLY. STATION, MUMBAI 400 016 You are probably aware the campaign against Tickle My Funny Bone brought some positive results, with the offensive-obscene advertisements / posters being pulled down. But, this is hardly enough - as the movie will soon be screened, followed by an even more anti-Christian film – 'The Da Vinci Code', UNLESS WE ACT. Heeding Cardinal Ivan Dias' call to prayer, CSF organized a day long signature drive at St. Anthony's, Vakola - thanks to Fr. Agnelo Sisters of St Charles. To date, 10,000 protests have been received. Have you done your bit? In only a couple of lines we will explain to you what these 2 movies are all about why we need to oppose it – 1. Tickle My Funny Bone – shows a woman scantily dressed as a Nun romancing a lover with the Church Cross in the background. The advertisements read, Story of a Sexy, Bold, Naughty Nun and show her in scenes, similar to a porno film. 2. Da Vinci Code – speaks of Jesus getting married to Mary Magdalene, with the two of them having sex children. The Church is shown as trying to cover-up this story, where the chalice of the Last Supper is supposed to be the womb of Mary Magdalene, bearing the blood of Christ….. Know more about these 2 films at the rally see pictures of the same there. This is blasphemy lies – insulting our faith hurting religious sentiments. Jesus said, If you stand up for me before men, I will take-up for you before God, My Father. We can keep quiet only if we want worse to follow - Not just movies, but also attacks on the Church, Christians Christianity. The government needs to take note, as it did with objectionable films books, like Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie, Prophet Mohammed's MF Hussain's Cartoons, etc. The Government will pay heed to our protests but you need to attend the Public Rally in large numbers. Details are as follows: WEDNESDAY, MAY 10, 2006, 6.00 P.M. CANOSSA CONVENT SCHOOL GROUNDS MAHIM (W), NEAR MAHIM RLY. STATION, MUMBAI 400 016 A Big God Bless to those who contribute in cash or kind - your prayers support. The work of Advocates Gerry Coelho David Joseph, as others like Dr. Abraham Mathai , Mr. Lavy A. D'Costa, Convenor - F orum for O pportunities, R edressal, C oncerns and Empowerment (F.O.R.C.E .), the media, clergy, family, etc. are thankfully acknowledged. Do write in for a free booklet on Giving to God's work or a free hymn CD (a result of Catholics tithing), even as I call upon you to contribute your best for this cause. It takes much money resources - VOLUNTEER - though, as we believe, since the time of Abraham - He is Jehova Jirehr, The Lord Who Provides. May be He could use you, as His instrument. Your Servant in the Lord's Service Joseph Dias General Secretary - The Catholic Secular Forum (CSF) 09324803279 (See attached file: Protests - Films Da Vinci Tickle My jpg)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Status report on India's progress - Goanskepticstake note
Mario I don't teach as per your post. However, unlike you, I do think before I open my mouth. Apropos Bill Gates, he is a philanthropist dying to give his money away. His forays in India are not to make more money but to give it away. His 'saintedness' in India is legendary as many a youth in India would illuminate your ignorant good self. Cornel - Original Message - Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: Status report on India's progress - Goanskepticstake note cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario Unlike you, I prefer not to count the chickens before they are hatched. Mario observes: That probably explains why Bill Gates does, while you teach. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] RE: what is needed is a MASTER PLAN FOR GOAN TRAFFIC (ROAD)SAFETY
Thanks for being the new star of Goa. Wow, Goa now has something to cheer about after 4 decades. BC - Original Message From: N Chandrasekharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, 9 May, 2006 3:03:06 AM Subject: [Goanet] RE: what is needed is a MASTER PLAN FOR GOAN TRAFFIC (ROAD)SAFETY Hi, I was keeping a keen watch on the replies/heat generated by the topic Road safety in Goa. Someone has renamed it as the mission of Mr.Mascharenhas and some others mistook it as the problem of the Police. Yet another person termed the view with `sceptic' touch.By and large, there is a NEGATIVE VOTE for Road Safety, from its own users! _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] ADC - May 09
Kazarachea mattvant paddo sodhunk aila'...Konkani Proverb He has come to the wedding (pandal)hall in search of a bull. The bull will not come in the marriage hall where there are many people. The man who comes in the hall on the excuse that he has come to search his bull, will be the one who was not invited for the wedding and is trying to cadge (get) an invitation. Edward Verdes Chinchinim/Mumbai/Jeddah _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Why we give what we give ?
That was good. Yours is the only entry so far which scored highest marks. Keep it up. You also said 'Except the priest Case' but why didn't you say so ? Able to write but not willing ? :) As for the other comments from another one, Gilbert, regarding our resposibility etc I agree there too, Thanks. When we are able but not willing, we still do because we feel it is our resposibility (typical example of 'Exception') but in reality it may not happens so. Typical example of this being 'NRI Children don't look after their parents or don't come back/Goa for their parents' funeral'. Some Other children within Goa, they don't look after their aged parents too. Where is the sense of responsibility here ? As for the other remarks, Eddie, i would say 'tatally missing the point'. I thank all of you for your comments/feedback. I have also received 3 privately so far, How happy I am to know people from all walks of life read my postings !! Thanks for your support. === --- raul carneiro wrote: - Dear Joegoauk, I appreciate your ability to write and also the good writings (except the priest case). _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Enlightened Christian
Incredible! A sentence meant to evoke a response did. Cheers, Santosh --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't hold your breath. Coherent responses are only reserved for coherent opinions. Mario. --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sentence is meant to evoke a response. Cheers, Santosh _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Status report on India's progress - Goan skepticstake note
Mario, This is the second time in as many days that you bandied the name, Bill Gates, like a cheerleader at a Seahawks game. What exactly has Bill Gates got to do with your assertion about India being a superpower - and that too, what superpower - economic, intellectually, military, political, all of the aforesaid?? Please clarify. Secondly Bill Gates is only hedging his bets on India and China, with their burgeoning middle classes, so that he can make even more money and remain the philantrophist with the most moolah!! This is opportunism at its best. He is only trying to head-off more and more people (in India China) in the developing-world from embracing the OSI - http://www.opensource.org Here's a link related to Bill's play in India: http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/article.jsp?article_id=73034cat_id=643 - Internet users worldwide over the age of 15-years has reached 694 million - numero uno position is Microsoft, attracted largest global audience with 538.6 million - the US stands first with 152 million internet users - China and Japan stand second and third with 74.7 million and 52.1 million - India ranks tenth with around 16.7 million users With the US market almost tapped out, no marks for guessing where the opportunities for growth lie. And last month Bill Gates coddled the Chinese Prez at his home only to have a Chinese hardware manufacture agree to buy $2.4 billion worth of Microsoft products all in the name of fighting piracy !! Bah !! And the US will soon be installing an Intellectual Property Rights Attache at its embassy in India. No, he will not be coming with Hershey bars. So we could soon be seeing Indians being whisked away by US law enforcement agencies for violating IPR. http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?id=14200345 So, why is it that you are card-carrying member of the Bill Melinda Gates foundation ?? Best - Bosco On Mon May 8 12:17:53 PDT 2006, Mario Goveia wrote --- cornel wrote: Mario Unlike you, I prefer not to count the chickens before they are hatched. Mario observes: That probably explains why Bill Gates does, while you teach. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Off topic: Brazil joins world nuclear club
Mervyn, This news about Brazil joining the nuclear club will surely drive Mario into utter frenzy. Cornel - Original Message - From: Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GOANET goanet@goanet.org Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: [Goanet] Off topic: Brazil joins world nuclear club http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/4981202.stm __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The next Gandhi: I'll make India better off than Britain
Dear Santosh, Although I agree with you in the main, I think the distinction between the viewpoint and the person who holds that viewpoint is a blurred and tenuous one. If one holds a certain belief, I think we extrapolate that the person acts in a certain manner consistent with the view he/she holds. As John Mill said Conservatives are not necessarily stupid but most stupid people are conservative. :)) Elisabeth PS: No offence meant to conservatives, just using the quote to make my point. -- --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elisabeth, Nonetheless, as you might have realized my question was directed at the reflexive display of gratuitous contempt for the person holding an opposing viewpoint Cheers, Santosh _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
