[Goanet] RE: Cornel's contention with .... WE ARE ALL GOANS
Dear Cornel, I did not say ³all Goans would have been of Turkish/Muslim provenance², if we all know the meaning of provenance. I did say that if it were not for the Portuguese, India would now be a Muslim nation, the biggest Muslim nation on earth, inhabited by people of Indian provenance and Islamic religion, there would be no India, just Pakistan all over the entire subcontinent (no Hindutva pride to celebrate). I am sure you understood my point but it serves your racial hatred purpose to mislead your fellow readers. Best regards Arjun _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] I'm back!!!
Dear Gilbert, My daughter knocked my laptop off the table and I am now given restricted access to my husband's computer. As such my responses are going to be very brief out of compulsions beyond my control :) I honestly don't have the answers to your several questions but far from "giving advice to God", being an agnostic, I think my stance is one of humility. Being agnostic simply means absence of knowledge. The problem I have with organised religion and latter day theists is the unwillingness to move from one position. Their stance is always that they are in possession of total knowledge and anything new is not to be entertained or tolerated. Religion like all organisms needs to be in a constant state of evolution. It always has been, perhaps at times so glacial that it misses the human eye. But we cannot stop evolving. Why do we now embrace this idea that all that there is know has been made known to us? My stance is simply "I know nothing" and if I discover something from this position than that will be something I truly believe in. Not something that has been handed down to me and forced upon me. As for me cracking codes or deciphering cryptic paintings, well I have no credentials to do either. I am a femme de menage of the "I once won a letter to the editor contest" variety and I have no pretensions beyond that. What I do have are theories. Lots of them. One of them being PDD. :) Elisabeth __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Frankie Pinto (ex Nairobi)
The funeral service of Frankie Pinto will be on friday 26th May 1.00p.m at St. Bernards Catholic Church, Corner of Klumpp and Logan Road.Mt Gravatt. Brisbane. Condolences to Fatima at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frankie leaves behind wife Fatima, daughters Rosalind and Tanya, Sister Juliet Remedious and her family in Brisbane _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goa news for May 25, 2006
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa passes ordinance on office of profit issue (Business Standard India) The ordinance has exempted the offices of the vice-chairman of the Kala Academy, chairman, vice-chairman and members of the Entertainment Society of Goa, chairman of the State Urban Development Agency (SUDA) and the Goa Tillari Irrigation Development Corporation. http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?autono=92019&leftnm=3&subLeft=0&chkFlg= *** Goa can be life sciences R&D hub: Expert (Business Standard India) Goa has the potential to become a "hub of research and development" (R&D) in the field of life science molecules, provided the state government takes a strategic move in that direction, Aroop Zutshi, president & senior partner, Frost & Sullivan, said. http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage_c.php?leftnm=11&bKeyFlag=IN&autono=1038 *** Goa airport to get Rs 500 cr facelift (rediff.com) The central government has assured the state government of Goa that it will pump in Rs 500 crore (Rs 5 billion) to give a facelift to Dabolim airport. http://www.rediff.com/rss/redirect.php?url=http://www.rediff.com/money/2006/may/23goa.htm *** Goa to Get India's 2nd Floating Casino (Rolling Good Times) MUMBAI, India -- As reported by the (Indian) Financial Express: "Hospitality major Hotel Leelaventure Ltd is launching India's second floating casino in Goa. Current government guidelines do not allow casinos on land. Hence, the idea for a casino at sea. http://www.rgtonline.com/Article.cfm?ArticleId=65007&CategoryName=Business *** GPCC leadership: Alva to visit Goa (Navhind Times) Panaji, May 23: The decision on change of leadership of the Goa pradesh Congress committee will now be taken only after the visit of all-India Congress committee general-secretary, Ms Margaret Alva to the state in the first week of June 2006. http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=052424 *** Goa, India, May 23 , 2006 (PharmiWeb) on May 23 rd 2006 at its annual event, "Opportunities in Life Sciences: Global Partnership Summit", held at the Park Hyatt, Goa. http://www.pharmiweb.com/PressReleases/pressrel.asp?ROW_ID=1373 *** SriLankan Airlines to launch services from Goa (The Hindu) THIRUVANANATHAPURAM: Goa will be SriLankan Airlines 50th global destination and the 10th in the country with the airline all set to launch services from Colombo to the coastal town in October. The two weekly fights, which would be of two ... http://www.thehindu.com/2006/05/25/stories/2006052504561900.htm *** Frost & Sullivan's Global Partnership Summit 2006 concludes in Goa (PharmaBiz) Frost & Sullivan revisited Goa this year to chronicle the second edition of the highly successful and internationally acclaimed "Opportunities in Life Science Molecules: Global Partnership Summit 2006." The global summit was organized on May 22nd-23rd,, 2006 at the Park Hyatt, Resort & Spa in Goa, India. http://www.pharmabiz.com/article/detnews.asp?articleid=33440 *** Markets (May 24) (The Hindu) AIRLINES SriLankan plans services to Goa SriLankan Airlines is planning to start its Goa-Colombo services from October this year. The twice-a-week flights are scheduled for Mondays and Saturdays. The coastal Indian State will be the airlines' 50th global destination and ... http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2006/05/25/09hdline.htm *** Greek Orthodox Archdiocese E-Bulletin May 19, 2006 (Worldwide Faith News) This is the weekly edition of the GOA E-Bulletin. For more information just click on the links below to go to the topics of interest to you.If the link does not work from your email, copy the link and paste it into the address bar of your web browser.FEAST OF STS. CONSTANTINE AND HELEN:This Sunday is the feast day of Saints Constantine and Helen.Read the story of these two Saints of http://www.wfn.org/2006/05/msg00207.html Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: The Global Goans IT Club - A proposal by Jason Monserrate
Hi Jason, There already are a couple of fairly-active organisations based in Goa. One is the Computer Society of India, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/csi-goa and the other is the India Linux Users' Group (Goa) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa We invite you to join both and help build bridges between Goa and its diaspora. The ILUG, in particular, has been having some very interesting times in terms of growing numerically, introducing youngsters to technology, and encouraging talent from Goa to build itself up in a way that it can access top-class jobs -- in Goa, in the rest of India, and abroad too. Best wishes, FN 00 A PROPOSAL by Jason Monserrate jasonmonserrate at yahoo.com 000 INTRODUCTION: The Global Goans IT Club is a web based community that seeks to promote the use of Information Technology and Computers in the lives of lakhs of Goans, living in Goa and elsewhere. The venture is purely non commercial. -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- Photographs from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/popular-views/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Illinois: Kim Pereira: Theatre Director, Author, Playwright, Actor, Film Producer .
23 May: Illinois Media Centre. Professor Kim Pereira of the School of Theater has accepted the position of director of the Honors Program at Illinois State University . In 2003 he received the university's Strand Diversity Award . He is the author of "August Wilson and the African-American Odyssey," of five plays, has presented papers at national and regional conferences, and wrote, filmed, narrated and produced a two-hour documentary on contemporary Indian theatre. For full text, 369 words, see http://www.mediarelations.ilstu.edu/news_releases/0506/may/honorspereira .asp For a profile of him see http://www.cfa.ilstu.edu/faculty_staff/biographydetail.asp?u=kpereir Kim was born in Bombay. His father, Frank Pereira was a sports journalist for the Times of India, an avid hockey player and originally from Parra. His mother, Doreen Pereira, a retired Deputy Manager at Shell in India, was from Pilerne. For a photograph of him check out the Photo Gallery at http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/ Eddie Fernandes _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] I'm back !!!
Dear Mario, I think it's futile at this point to debate the whole Monica Lewinsky affair but this much is for sure; Clinton was probably one of the greatest Presidents, America ever had. His understanding of geopolitical issues alone puts him in a league of his own. His legacy will be a man of sheer brilliance and charisma, despite Republican efforts to constantly tar his reputation. So like I said, at this point debate is redundant, he's already earned his place in history. The same cannot be said of Bush whose second term approval rating is lower than the temperature in my freezer. Elisabeth --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Elisabeth Carvalho wrote: > > > > To me, the personal life of Jesus is as divorced > > from his message as Clinton's should have been > from > > his politics. > > > Mario wonders: > > > In my never humble opinion, if someone's personal > life > is deliberately "divorced" from their public life > interested observers would lose a major predictor of > the person's veracity and credibility. > > > Was it appropriate to "divorce" the "private" lives > of > the pedophiles from their "public" lives as priests, > enabling them to offend over and over again in new > locations with fresh prey? > > > Everything that Bill Clinton did in his public life > had been predicted by people who knew his previous > personal life, including bringing his "private" life > into his "public" life by conducting "private > business" in the workplace, during working hours > with > a junior employee, and then denying it all under > oath. > On the other hand, there are still people who > believe > everything he continues to say, in the absence of > any > correlation between what he has said and what he has > done in the past. > > > > _ > Do not post admin requests to the list. > Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] The Indian stock market crash - an analysis
WHY SHOULD WE WELCOME THE STOCK MARKET CRASH? Swaminathan S. Anklesaria Aiyar Times News Network [Wednesday, May 24, 2006] Economics assumes that human beings are rational. But human reactions to stock market movements are utterly irrational. When markets rise, everybody cheers. When markets crash as has been the case for two weeks everybody moans. A hunt for culprits often ensues. No such hunt is ever announced when the markets are rising. In past scams, when manipulators like Harshad Mehta and Ketan Parekh sent share prices through the roof, they were hailed as geniuses and became celebrities. Some market experts cautioned that the markets had shot up to insane levels. But this plea for sanity was widely dismissed as stupid, and ordinary housewives and college kids bought frenziedly in the belief that share prices could only go up. However, when the markets inevitably fell, the hero-manipulators were suddenly denounced as villains. They were accused of the dreadful sin of rigging markets, and thus misleading small investors. Ironically, no investor complained as long as the manipulators rigged prices upward. The complaints began only when the manipulators were unable to rig markets any more, and prices crashed. Truth be told, the real public complaint against Harshad Mehta and Ketan Parekh was not that they manipulated prices upward, but that they failed to manipulate it upward forever. For that, this could not be forgiven. The underlying assumption of small investors is that share prices should rise forever. Now, if the price of rice, sugar or petrol rose forever, the small investor would complain bitterly. Yet he seems to think it perfectly fair that share prices should go up forever, and very unfair if share prices crash. How greedy and hypocritical humans are! Consider the current moaning over the stock market crash. The fall of the sensex from 12,624 to 10,400 represents a sharp 20% decline within two weeks. But few people seem to remember that sensex was at just 9,390 at the start of 2006. So, even after the crash last Monday, the sensex was still up 10.5% since the start of the year. No bonds or fixed deposits could give such a high return within five months. This point escapes the CPI(M), which sees the market crash as reason enough to stop pension funds from investing in equities. Remember that the sensex was around 5,000 during the last general election in 2004. It then slumped to 4,282 on panic selling. From that low point, the sensex tripled in two years to 12,624 on May 10, 2006. That has been a bonanza, fuelling speculative frenzy. So, the 20% correction is to be welcomed. Stock market valuations remained stretched by historical standards, though not by developed market standards. If the sensex falls all the way to the 9.390 level at the start of the year, the market would still have yielded enormous gains to investors since 2004. The long run prospects of the economy are excellent. So, some investor exuberance is understandable. Yet such exuberance needs to be tempered by sharp corrections from time to time. This sends the valuable message that exuberance is no substitute for judgement. Human beings quote many aphorisms that they seem to forget when they enter the stock market. All that glitters is not gold. Dont be penny-wise and pound-foolish. Look before you leap. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Better safe than sorry. A fool and his money are soon parted. All who invest in markets must remember these aphorisms. Risk and reward go together. If there were no risk, there would be no market reward. Share prices represent subjective judgements of the day, so bouts of euphoria and depression will necessarily drive share prices up and down. Marxists find this terrible. They deplore casino capitalism, and lambaste foreign institutional investors (FIIs). Marxists cannot bear to acknowledge that FII pressure has sparked capital market reforms that have made Indian markets among the best in the developing world, far ahead of China or South Korea. FIIs were earlier reluctant to invest in a market where one-tenth of all paper share certificates were forged, settlements were delayed for months on end, and thin turnover facilitated rigging by big brokers (and by companies before every public issue). But after capital market reforms, FIIs have flooded in. They have invested in all emerging markets, but disproportionately more in India. They have favoured companies with good governance and transparent accounting, rewarding these traits for the first time (earlier, the ability to rig markets was rewarded most). Stock market reforms and FII inflows have hugely improved the ability of Indian companies to raise equity finance for expansion. This has reduced their dependence on debt, thus reducing interest rates as well as over-leveraged balance sheets. The CPI(M) can see none of this. It believes only that foreign devils are making millions and paying no tax. So it d
Re: [Goanet] WE ARE ALL GOANS
--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for his next contention below, that, "all > Portuguese came from Goa" (with or without a > smiley), I prefer not to waste my time on obvious > drivel. Nevertheless, I sincerely wish him well > with all my heart. What would Goanet be if it did > not receive contentious material? > Mario observes: > The intemperate language in the passage above, unmoderated by any smiley faces, shows that there are none more contentious than you on Goanet, Cornel:-(( > _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Portuguese Names.
--- eric pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I will sound like a broken record to many of you as > i harp on Ugarit, > again ! That mother of all kingdoms faded into > history in 3000 BC, along > with it's last kings - Ammit and Ammitappu. It > covered what would become the > eSyria Levant today, but it drew on the Nile Delta > for its early peopleing, > and furnished Turkey with the Hatti Kadesh. These > "Hittites" were the stem- > cells of todays Indo-Europeans who stretch from > Norway to Naini Tal. Our > interest is drawn to their southern cousins, the > Amizai of the Maghreb. The > world knows them as Berbers, their face to us today > is socccer wiz Zindane of > France and Morocco. That their language is spoken in > the Siva Oasis of lower > Egypt is very telling, to me. Gama, Alva, > AL-Buqueir, Rahm and Qureia are > extremely common names from Algeria to Alexandria: > we only have to keep > abreast of Indica to know that Gama, Alva and Moshi > (Moses) are very > Hindustani too ! > I once informed you that our Lusitanian friends > had begun life in Morocco, > as Lazzitannis, which leaves Mario quite right in > his views - we are eastern > Lizzies ! > Mario observes: > Eric, Thanks for providing us with this complex but interesting history lesson. I knew there had to be a far more sophisticated basis for my theory that I had any idea about!:-)) Wait till Cornel hears about this. He'll probably do some research to try and debunk your version:-)) I'm still trying to impress upon him the value of smiley and frowny faces in internet communications:-(( > And wait till I tell the people of the city of Gouveia, who still can't get over the fact that they were named after my family way back when they were a small village:-)) > _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] RE: Cornel's contention with .... WE ARE ALL GOANS
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mario I have very mildly clashed with Ricardo previously on Goanet. If my memory serves me well, it was over his contention that, but for the Portuguese, all Goans would have been of Turkisk/Muslim provenance. Historically, this could well have been an alternative reality of course, but it was his implication that, the Goans ought to be grateful for Portuguese colonisation, because it was a better alternative, that I had found contentious. As for his next contention below, that, "all Portuguese came from Goa" (with or without a smiley), I prefer not to waste my time on obvious drivel. === Dear Cornel, I am in the process of reviewing your Vortex article wrt the Portuguese in Goa, as also the critique which it attracted. We intend to have it on the website as soon as we have cleared up up a few 'grey' areas ...but for now this is is response to the above from you. You are a well read man. Pray tell us what you believe would have been the more likely scenario IF not for the Portuguese arrival in Calicut, and more specifically the Battle of Diu. Did Pakistan and (now) Bangladesh become Islamic States by choice? What about Indonesia ? Now... please do take the time and explain the contention you have with Ricardo. Are you saying that the Portuguese arrival and eventual colonization was NOT a better alternative than the Turkish/Moghal control of Goa? >From your reading of History, would you NOT say that the Hindu Kings went >along with the program ..whoever the Real Masters were - as long as their own interests were OK? IF you agree with that - do you believe that the poor, oppressed and 'untouchables' would have reached this far (Shankaracharya having been noted), IF not for the Colonial Powers? I'd be interested to know good wishes jc references: 1: what is the Devadasi System http://www.ambedkar.org/buddhism/Devadasis_Were_Degraded_Buddhist_Nuns.htm 2: Mahatma Jotirao Phule Impressed by Jotirao's intelligence and his love for knowledge, two of his neighbours, one a Muslim teacher and another a Christian gentleman persuaded his father Govindrao to allow him to study in a secondary school. In 1841, Jotirao got admission in the Scottish Mission's High School at Poona. http://www.ambedkar.org/ 3: The enslaved Paravas of the Fishery Coast The coast around the Cabo was inhabited by the pearl-diver-folk known as the Paravas. They had suffered centuries of discrimination and oppression from the Hindu kings and the Muslim Arab sea lords. Eventually, they turned to the Portuguese for help and in the process and many converted to Christianity. The Paravas were then, attacked by the Arab Muslim fleet, curiously, with help of some Hindu princes. http://www.colaco.net/1/sfx.htm 4: What Vasco da Gama would find in India if he were to return today: What would India be like but for this Vasco da Gama voyage ? It is really difficult to speculate what would have happened if ! but one can only try ... ! If not for Vasco da Gama it may have been .. the sea battles and skirmishes off Calicut and Diu .he decisive 1539 Battle of Vedalai. http://www.colaco.net/1/vdg3.htm 5: The Ranes of Goan Folklore While elsewhere in the New Conquests the traditional village community set-up suffered some destruction under their Dessais, the village communities of Satari ceased to exist as a result of the recurring feuds among the Ranes themselves and their attempts to assert their own feudal control and relative independence. This is a very important historical background to be taken into consideration while critically assessing the so-called contribution of the Ranes to Goa's freedom struggle. Freedom, as we now tend to understand it, seems to have been the last thing the Ranes aspired to. http://www.colaco.net/1/TRSfolkloreRaneRajput.htm _ Enter the Windows Live Mail beta sweepstakes http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] WE ARE ALL GOANS
On 24/05/06, cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mario I have very mildly clashed with Ricardo previously on Goanet. If my memory serves me well, it was over his contention that, but for the Portuguese, all Goans would have been of Turkisk/Muslim provenance. Historically, this could well have been an alternative reality of course, but it was his implication that, the Goans ought to be grateful for Portuguese colonisation, because it was a better alternative, that I had found contentious Comment: I do believe that Arjun was being more than a tad bit, sarcastic...I think he was poking fun at Mario! Come on you guys, someone who is so, PORTUGUESE, would not concede to easily I must say, I think the joke is on your Mario, okay?? -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] VICE PRIME MINISTER COSTA
Caro Henrique, Of course Nelly Furtado has nothing to do with Goa but I am afraid you are wrong about Antonio Costa. Antonio Costa (number 2 of the current Portuguese Government) is indeed the son of Orlando da Costa, famous Goan writer born in Lourenco Marques but of 100% Goan origin. His family is still in Goa. I am not sure from where Antonio Costa's mother is (possibly Cabo Verde) but his father Orlando da Costa was definitely a Goan (passed away few months back) and a famous Portuguese writer. I take the liberty of posting some references that I am sure you will appreciate: http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_cronica.asp?c_news=527 (Portuguese) http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_noticia.asp?c_news=524 (Portuguese) http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=391 (English) http://lportuguesa.malha.net/content/view/66/1/ (Portuguese) Com os melhores cumprimentos, Paulo Colaco Dias. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Henrique Salles da Fonseca > Sent: 24 May 2006 09:00 > To: goanet@goanet.org > Subject: [Goanet] VICE PRIME MINISTER COSTA > > Mr. Nunes Besugão: > > Minister António Costa was born in Portugal with cape verde's parents. > As Nelly Furtado, he has nothing to see with Goa. > > Regards, > > Henrique Salles da Fonseca - Lisbon _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] I have a theory about men!
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I really don't remember when I last thought > straight! Have to check with my wife - probably get > a smirky smile - its okay, getting old boyo! > Mario observes: > Gabe, You need to be careful with your expressions. In the US, one who "...really don't remember when I last thought straight!" would really not have a wife to check with!:-)) Perhaps it's different in the UK:-)) > _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] The Global Goans IT Club - A proposal by Jason Monserrate
Goenkars - where ever you may be , Goenkars you will always be ! During my last visit to Goa , I had the opportunity of meeting many Young Goans , Goans who wanted to do something for themselves and also help others. Here - below are thoughts - which Jason has put on paper and has asked me to share them with Goans world wide. I do sincerly hope that we get positive support from Goans all over the GOANWORLD - to the ideas expressed by jason who resides in Goa. WE need Volunteers - Can YOU help at all ? Any suggestions you may want to share ...form a cooperative ? or maybe you have some positive ideas too. Thanks for your time . rene barreto 00 A PROPOSAL by Jason Monserrate [EMAIL PROTECTED] 000 INTRODUCTION: The Global Goans IT Club is a web based community that seeks to promote the use of Information Technology and Computers in the lives of lakhs of Goans, living in Goa and elsewhere. The venture is purely non commercial. The objectives are as under 1) Making Goans across the world more accessible to one another. 2) Help Goan businesses target a wider market through the web. 3) Help promote the use of computers in backward regions of Goans. GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF THE WEBSITE (subject to change as suggestions amd ideas come in): The website is divided into 12 major sections. 1) Home 2) Forums 3) Activities 4) News 5) Information 6) Deals 7) Jobs 8) E-learning 9) Downloads 10) Join us 11) Terms of Use 12)People Home: The home page has the the motto/vision of the Global Goan IT Club. It has a login link. All other websites associated with the IT Club have a link. It has a link to google and a search facility either on the web or withing the site. It has a link called About Us - where people can get information on how the club was started along with the contact information of the founders and the Club's committee members/volunteers. Forums: This is the place where you post messages and in turn get replies. All messages posted are public. The user can choose which forum he would like to have his say. Choice of which forum he would like to have his message posted is left upto the user. Everyone visiting the site can post messages. Messages will be moderated. Forums can be navigated in 3 ways 1) By location - e.g. UK Goans, US Goans, Desi Goans, Goa Chapter, etc 2) By levels - Novices, Fresh Software Engineers, School Students, Industry Professionals, etc 3) By software users - Java, .Net, Linux Users, etc User can post in any forum. e.g. A Goan student in the US may post a query regarding his final year project in one forum and may post another message about meeting other Goan students in the US in another forum. A logged in user can create a new group and invite his friends to join the group. Activities: This will give the users an overview of the various activities undertaken by the Global Goan IT Club. Activities include 1) teaching village folk and old people basic computer applications like Word, Internet, Email. 2) development of software to simplify existing processes. Depending on the demand for services (software services or non IT services like healthcare, for example) we try to arrange for service providers in Goa to get in touch with those who want the service. 3) organising workshops and seminars. News: A place where the major news headlines (political and others) of the day is posted. Includes an archive section where a calendar based approach enables users to retrieve past news. To read more detailed news, users are given links to news websites. Information: There are links to 1) All colleges in Goa 2) All IT Training Centres 3) Hardware/Software Dealers 4) Software Services 5) Bookstores 6) Other non IT related business Deals: Advertising - People advertise, sell and buy. Jobs: Resumes are submitted and jobs are advertised. E-Learning: Online tutorials are posted/uploaded. Links to other sites where good tutorials are available. E-books freely downloadable. One - To - One tutorials. Downloads: Provision for uploading software is available. Only members can download. A track is kept of number of downloads and uploads. Certain software cannot be downloaded unless you have uploaded something. Help Us/Join Us: Volunteer Link to us Terms of Use: Terms and conditions of joining. People: A searchable database of Goans who want to get themselves listed. CURRENT DEVELOPMENT The website will contain 12 major sections. Two of of these sections are explained in detail below and are under development. The remaining parts are still in the planning, development and finalization phase. A searchable database of Goans This database will contain details of Goans who choose to get themselves listed in the database. The database can be accessed by anyone who wishes to search for any
[Goanet] I'm back!!!
Hi Elisabeth, It looks like your thinking cap was in the microwave getting super-charged.:=)) I have to state at the outset that I am not as smart in connecting the dots (real and imaginary) as you. Perhaps you are a member of Mensa. I could not find the decode words as Dan Brown found in his research when he read all those documents from Jerusalem to Southern France. I could not find those (real and imaginary) connections even after it was pointed out. But I felt vindicated when another authority on the TV program said, "There was never any link between a V being a feminine symbol or a woman's womb in any artistic language" that he knew off etc etc. I do not know if you saw the History Channel on the "Beyond the Da Vinci Code" program. My responses to you specific points follow your statements. Kind Regards, GL Elisabeth Carvalho: How are you? GL: Thanks for asking. I am on top of the world. Work is busy and very gratifying. Next week our second 3-million-dollar Linear Accelerator (for the production of X-rays) will be coming on line in our department. With it, among other things we will be able to do radio-surgery which is (bloodless) surgery using an X-ray knife. This has been done routinely for deep seated brain tumors. And now it is being applied for lung cancer among other sites. EC: How is the grandchild? GL: The grandchildren are doing great. Grandma is busy (actually having fun) with them in California rather than in New York. EC: The only thing I would like to add is that Dan Brown is neither a historian nor a theologian. He's a novelist. GL: Fictional novel are nice stories. It's like a fresh wind. For most of us that air is a passing moment in our life. For a few that air stays in their make-belief environment. EC: Far more damning books have been written about Christ by the likes of Freke or Gandy. The reason the Church routinely dismisses them without so much as a second thought is because they never make it to the mainstream. They are the companions of lonely agnostics such as myself on a journey of self-discovery. GL: I wish you (and other agnostics on Goanet) could respond to my post (a few days ago) which was in reply to Santosh Helelkar. And feel free to be more generous with your thoughts and response in giving your perspectives about absence of God. The agnostics are usually articulate about criticisms of other peoples' beliefs. Just a thought for you and other agnostics - During the solitary journey of discovery, Sorrow looks back, Worry looks around, and Faith looks up! EC: To me, the personal life of Jesus is as divorced from his message as Clinton's should have been from his politics. GL: I cannot make head or tail of this statement as it related to Jesus Christ or to Bill (I assume) Clinton. I should not assume you are referring to Bill, as Hillary is our fine New York senator and the likely next President of the USA. I need to let you on my bias - Even as a Republican, I love all three of them AND this includes their messages and their politics. For any true believer, the message should be in their personal life especially regarding what they believe. Or else they would be the biggest hypocrites to exists. EC: If the historical Jesus was crucified, in all likelihood given the severity of Roman crucifixions, he died. If he died, his Resurrection is irrelevant. Being God, he wouldn't need to make petty points to human beings by chauvinistically resurrecting himself in any form. It is only the human mind unable to come to terms with its own mortality that yearns for postmortem assurances. GL: Can you put this into plain English? Is your point that Jesus is not God like the Gnostics belief? Just asking to make sure what you are trying to mean. I have a problem with someone who does not believe in God, jumping three leaps in analyzing the nuances of a particular religion; or a belief in one or the other faith. Another pointer: Unless you can create the WHOLE universe, then perhaps giving "advice" to God, isn't such a good idea. In summary, as a friend, I applaud you for your thought process. It reminds me of the saying, "a turtle only makes progress when it sticks out its neck". And yet, standing in the middle of the road can be dangerous. One can get knocked down by the traffic from both ways. I look forward to your thoughts on the questions posed to Santosh. Please keep your writing and logic very simple and rational for a supurlo Goenkar like me.:=)) That should be easy, as agnostics claim they are very logical and rational people. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Meet to protest alcohol
15th May, 2006. Various organisations and individuals demanded the withdrawal of the Government’s proposal to sell beer and wine outside bars and liquor outlets. Bailancho Saad called the meeting at T. B. Cunha Hall to protest the promotion of alcohol by the Government. The meeting decided to make a representation to the Government demanding 1.Withdrawal of the proposal by the Government to sell beer and wine outside bars and liquor outlets 2.Withdrawal of the proposal to reduce taxes on alcohol. 3.Stop Government promotion of alcohol like Wine Escapade 4.Increase budgetary allocation to start facilities for detoxification centres, help centres for women and children of alcoholics 5.Strict implementation of excise laws. It was decided to meet after fifteen days to take stock of the situation and decide the future course of action. Ms Sabina Martins gave the background of women’s struggle against alcohol in Goa.In Tivrenm,Marcel thare was a long drawn struggle by women to stop the opening of bar In Bicholim the women got together to get the bar timings implemented as per the excise act. In Ponda similarly women took up the issue of illegal sale of alcohol in houses. Women have impressed on the Panchayat members not to isssue NOC to more bars so much so that it was agreed that if the majority of the women did not want liquor outlets no permission would be given. Many schools have also objected to bars in its vicinity Ms Martins stated all these struggles will go in vain if the Government goes ahead and promotes alcohol. Ms Lalan Kerkar of Peaceful society stated that addiction in children and youth will increase and the future of young girls and brides are at stake. Mr Govekar stated that when he lived in Siolim there were 126 barsand 3 teashops.The morning walkers could get hold of a pint at five in the morning. Ms Savitri Chari from Shri Lailari Self Help Group stated that in their village of Shirgao there are no bars.However the men go to Assnoda to drink and by the time they reach the village they become sober. Adv Annusiya Naik of Kripa foundation stated that there should be mass awareness and women should come out in large numbers to oppose the policy. Mr Ashpak Shaikh from Life line stated that there is a disparity in the empowerment of women in the towns and villages and hence they are not in a position to tell the males not to drink.Hence it is the responsibility of the government to enact policies that will reduce drinking. Mr Deepak Bhandargee who works among the migrants in Chimbel stated that in that area there are many aloholics who do not work.The wives who go out to work are expected to bring a quarter of alcohol everyday while returning otherwise they are beaten and sometimes not allowed in the house. Ms Afrose Shaikh of Bailancho Saad stated that in her village in Bicholim , there are 18 bars and several young men have died due to alcohol related sickness.As a result there is a large number of widows who live in destitution. Of late they got employment in a cashew-peeling factory hence they are surviving. Mr Sunil R Sonsurkar of Sai Life care stated that in rural areas like Usgao women are very vulnerable .No man will listen tthem he stated hence it is important that the men are made aware . Ms Bharati Bandodkar of Peaceful Society stated that the number of accidents due to drunken driving has increased and now with easy availability of alcohol to young children the situation will worsen. Mr Victor Mendes of Saad Alashiro stated that there is a direct link between alcohol and AIDS as an alccoholic gets into irresponsible sexual behaviour and all the awareness of precautions goes to the wind. Mr Sorter Almeida stated that extra tax should be levied to reduce accessibility. There should be a ban on sale of alcohol in school fetes. He stated one should not depend on panchayats as it depends on the person in the chair who keeps changing. Ms Harsha Raiker of Temps Hamlet Self-Help Group stated that they were opposed to the policy and requested all the self-help groups to take a stand. Several other issues were raised by participants such as livelihood, import of alcohol, drowning of drunk tourists, liquor served in swimming pools, increased violence against women and children and lack of support systems for them. For Bailancho Saad _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Chatterjee's chatter
>>Christianity and Bible are both works of FICTION too and subverted as and when required by the powers that be. >>Meanings distorted, dreams woven and sins committed wilfully repeatedly. >>All actions of Jesus were politically motivated. >>Its all fiction. >>Dan Brown made money. So does the Church. The similarity is that both are making lots of money (and squandering it too) on works of Fiction. -- Somethings, like matters of faith, cannot be proved as much as people like soumu chatterjee cannot disprove them. The same arguments she raises against Chotebhai Noronha may also be asked about her hollow claims. Soumu dear how do you substantiate the above claims? Or are you just making some noise to draw yourself cheap publicity? Tony Martin Message: 6 Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 00:47:58 -0400 From: soumo chatterjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Re: *** Goanet Reader: Don't fear Dan Brown or Da Vinci. Be afraid ofour own ignorance. (Chhotebhai Noronha) To: goanet@goanet.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 dear Mr Noronha, what made you send us this mail of a religious zealot who cant take a good book and appreciate fiction?? Hope this is not an cheap action on your part to gain readership. Christianity and Bible are both works of FICTION too and subverted as and when required by the powers that be. Meanings distorted, dreams woven and sins committed wilfully repeatedly. What moral right did this zealot have to comment on other religions What does he mean by Divinity of Jesus? All actions of Jesus were politically motivated. What proof of his rise is recorded or is evident historically. Its all fiction. and then to blame fiction by a believer of FICTION is the ultimate foolishness. Dan Brown made money. So does the Church. The similarity is that both are making lots of money (and squandering it too) on works of Fiction. Let Mr Chotebhai Noronha keep his council to himself and you please do not bother us again with the rushings of a zealot. many of his arguments are baseless and will not stand up to scrutiny. Just making some noise to gain popularity. Hope you will have the sense to spare this site of such people. With Regards, Soumo Chatterjee Goa. ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Primrose Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Desecration of the Portuguese language in Goa post 61
I don't have to ask anyone to know that Portuguese was an inconsequential language in India, before and after 1961, other than for those who spoke it. > --- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ask Imelda and she will tell ya, what the miniscule > langauge meant to people in Goa before 61. > > BC > _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Proposed Goanet fundraiser for a generous christian
It is indeed very reassuring to see Christianity alive and well in India! I suggest all the vocal defenders of the faith on goanet, draw up a collection and assist Nicholas Almedia in his efforts to have Dan Brown murdered and decapitated. Praise the lord! Marlon --- Frederick Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://in.news.yahoo.com//060520/43/64e5n.html > ..But there was at least one person, former > Mumbai corporator Nicholas Almeida, who offered a > reward of Rs.1.1 > million to anyone who brought the author of the book > before him 'dead > or alive'. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] Portuguese Names.
Eric, My eldest daughter's name is Alva Maura, but nothing of levantine origin: We concocted it from Alfred and my wife, Eva. But Maura, my mother's name I believe has. Could you please inform? Alfred From: eric pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Portuguese Names. Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 00:52:38 -0400 I will sound like a broken record to many of you as i harp on Ugarit, again ! That mother of all kingdoms faded into history in 3000 BC, along with it's last kings - Ammit and Ammitappu. It covered what would become the eSyria Levant today, but it drew on the Nile Delta for its early peopleing, and furnished Turkey with the Hatti Kadesh. These "Hittites" were the stem- cells of todays Indo-Europeans who stretch from Norway to Naini Tal. Our interest is drawn to their southern cousins, the Amizai of the Maghreb. The world knows them as Berbers, their face to us today is socccer wiz Zindane of France and Morocco. That their language is spoken in the Siva Oasis of lower Egypt is very telling, to me. Gama, Alva, AL-Buqueir, Rahm and Qureia are extremely common names from Algeria to Alexandria: we only have to keep abreast of Indica to know that Gama, Alva and Moshi (Moses) are very Hindustani too ! I once informed you that our Lusitanian friends had begun life in Morocco, as Lazzitannis, which leaves Mario quite right in his views - we are eastern Lizzies ! eric. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: War and women
It's true that women can fight as dirty as men but I think the motivations are different. Men are ferociously competitive. As Genghis Khan said, "It is not sufficient that I succeed. Everyone else must fail". Women on the other hand stop at "I must succeed". Perhaps I'm looking at it with rose-tinted glasses and a slighly biased point of view. Elisabeth --- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > George > Further to posts on Goanet, and just by way of a > small aside, Margaret > Thatcher was deemed, by some in the UK, to be the > only man in her cabinet at > the time of the Falklands war. > > Another point made by some bloke said that, "women's > continuing wars are in > the home i.e the expression and manifestation of > aggression inwards onto > the man of the house. Men's are channelled > externally for the above reason! > Regret I can't vouch for the authenticity of the > second saying. > Cornel > - Original Message - > From: "George Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:01 PM > Subject: [Goanet] Re: War and women > > > > --- Elisabeth Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Which is why we'd have fewer wars if more women > were incharge. > > > > > > Golda Mier, Indira Gandhi, Margaret Thatcher all > took their nations to > > war. As a proportional > > percentage of women leaders, their war instincts > were no better than men. > > Sadly. > > > > Regards, > > George > > > > _ > > Do not post admin requests to the list. > > Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) > > > > > > _ > Do not post admin requests to the list. > Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] VICE PRIME MINISTER COSTA
--- Henrique Salles da Fonseca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mr. Nunes Besugão: > > Minister António Costa was born in Portugal with > cape verde's parents. > As Nelly Furtado, he has nothing to see with Goa. > > Regards, > > Henrique Salles da Fonseca - Lisbon > Mario observes: > Thanks for clearing that up, Henrique. This kind of confusion is bound to occur when an entire country adopts the names of Goan Catholics:-)) > _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] India protests over Pope comments
India protests over Pope comments Benedict's XVI's envoy received a dressing downIndia has summoned the Vatican envoy in Delhi in protest over comments by the Pope in which he condemned attempts to ban religious conversions. India's junior Foreign Minister, Anand Sharma, told parliament on Tuesday that the envoy was told in "no uncertain terms" of India's disapproval. The Pope criticised India last week for what he called "disturbing signs of religious intolerance". India's main opposition party, the BJP, has already protested to the Vatican. 'Religious intolerance' Pope Benedict XVI made the comments last week while talking to India's new Ambassador to the Vatican, Amitava Tripathi.Religious conversions are a controversial issue The pontiff criticised India for "disturbing signs of religious intolerance which have troubled some regions of India". He specifically cited attempts by some Indian states to introduce legislation to ban what right-wing Hindus call "forced conversions". India's foreign ministry has now reacted strongly to Monday's papal comments. "India is a secular and democratic country, in which adherents of all religious faiths enjoy equal rights," said Junior Foreign Minister Anand Sharma. Interference Correspondents say that Mr Sharma made the comments in response to opposition criticism that India had not protested against the "grossly unwarranted" statement from Rome. Rajnath Singh, the President of India's main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) wrote to the Pope on 20 May. "My interference in your religious domain within the Vatican will be unwelcome, uncalled for and will be treated as interference in your religious management and administration," the letter said. Earlier this month, the state governor of India's western state of Rajasthan refused to sign a contentious religious freedom bill, which would have banned people from being converted to religions "against their will". Human rights agencies and minority groups also opposed the bill, saying it was introduced to appease radical Hindu groups. But the BJP-led Rajasthan government, led by the BJP, said that the bill had been introduced to stop religious conversion by means of allurement, greed or pressure. The BJP says that it supports legislation to ban "forced religious conversions", because many Christian missionaries recruit converts among the majority Hindu population using financial and educational enticements. Christians make up just over two percent of India's 1.1 billion mainly Hindu population. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/5009238.stmABOUT GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER This first of its kind Gulf-Goans e-newsletter archived at www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans is dedicated to Goans around the Globe and is moderated/edited by Gaspar Almeida (since 1994) and presented by Ulysses Menezes, owner of http://www.goa-world.com website. EXPRESSIONS - The Flower Shop (Goa) www.goa-world.com/expressions/ THE GOAN FORUM http://www.colaco.net GOENCHO ULO http://www.fullerlife.in Report and Pictures of May Ball 2006 organized by GWA-QATARhttp://www.goa-world.com/goa/qatar/mayqueen06/index.htmNothing is funnier than unhappiness, I grant you that. Yes, yes, it's the most comical thing in the world.~Samuel Beckett~~www.goa-world.com~ How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates._ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Indian artist Souza hits $1.17 mn in Sotheby's May auction
Indian artist Souza hits $1.17 mn in Sotheby's May auction Indo-Asian News Service London, May 24 (IANS) Francis Newton Souza ruled the roost at Sotheby's May auction of The Indian Sale here with his "Amsterdam Landscape" going for $1.175 million to a private collector. Sotheby's raked in a total of $7.96 million for artefacts as well as Indian contemporary art at its auction Tuesday. "Today's sale shows the market entering a new phase with evidence of a mounting appreciation and demand for important works by the top artists from an increasingly informed, discerning and expanding group of collectors," said Sotheby's head of sales Edward Gibbs. The sale also demonstrated the growing strength of the Indian miniature painting market. "A packed saleroom witnessed buoyant bidding with telephone bidders and clients from all over the world reflecting a truly international market," he added. "We are particularly pleased with the result for `Amsterdam Landscape' by Francis Newton Souza, published by Edwin Mullins in 1962, which brought 624,000 pounds - the second highest price achieved at auction for a work by the artist." The large number of Souzas in the auction also spoke about the demand for the artist. Souza's untitled Nude went for $584,980, almost double of what it was estimated at, while his chromatic rendition of "The Chance" went for $500,550. Tyeb Mehta's "Trussed Bull" created in 1967 had a somewhat disappointing finality at $437,227. A few Razas in the auction, too, had a lot of promise but it was his "Earth" that went for $331,690. However, the beauty, Raza's "Tejas", a work from his Shantibindu series that is soft ethereal and dulcet in its tone, went unsold. Ram Kumar's landscape, a sombre hued stroked entity went down for $236,706. J. Swaminathan's brilliant evocation of "Udghosh" from the Bird, Mountain And Tree Series 1974, which was the crowning glory of the auction, went for an appreciable $395,012. A host of Akbar Padamsees were also included in this auction, but his best was the untitled Metascape that went down for $521,657. All Husain lovers know that it is works from the 1950s and 1960s that have been his hallmark best. Among a large number of Husains in the auction, a few were sterling works -- his "Blue Girl", a work of 1963 done in the old veiled mystic style, estimated at $112,00-150,000 went for a very disappointing $226,152. His other works, too, did not fetch earlier rewards reflected at other auctions. "Strangely there was no excitement at Husain's works, and the bids were too few and far from feverish. I think that the Bharat Mata incident has put off a number of NRIs," said a collector, who wished to remain anonymous. However, Sotheby's officials were happy. Head of sales Edward Gibbs and international head of modern and contemporary Indian paintings Zara Porter Hill said: "We are delighted with the results of today's sale which confirmed the underlying strength of the market for modern and contemporary Indian paintings, a collecting category that has experienced remarkable growth in recent years. "The overall driver for this trend has been the growth of the Indian economy and a raised awareness of the important contribution of Indian artists in the 20th century." _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] re ADC - May 11
Alfred Chacha, can you pls tell me in what sense does it relate to Calangutkars! Is Aleixa a name of a person or is it Alxea/alxi - a lazy person.? One eg. you must have heard of the Proverb ' Moidechi pissai" which is 'As great a fool as the people of Moira. It is said the people of Moira village tried to collect the sun rays in a barrel so that they may have sunshine in the rainy season. I do not mean to offend Moidekars but this was told to me by a friend from Moira who used to call his fellow ganvkars 'Moidecho pisso'. I have also read the same in a proverb book. Dev borem korum Edward Verdes Chinchinim/Mumbai/KSA Thu May 11 04:29:07 PDT 2006 Alfred de Tavares wrote: >Aleixa than re vod'en >Pai aum burgo munga >Aleixa, jeunk ie re >Pai aum man'ai munga Saying from Calangute AT _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] A Quick selection of Goa News: 24/05/06
Governors pleasure is others pain: When Governor S C Jamir darts on the court at Indoor Stadium, Campal, retrieving a difficult placement or executing a hard smash, his agility is really amazing. But there is hardly anybody around to watch him in action. For when the Governor turbs up at Campal to enjoy the racquet and shuttle game, it means most others have to be kept out. After he leaves the royal precincts of Raj Bhavan and arrives at Campal, accompanied by an entrourage of cars, police and security, the ordinary citizens and sportsmen availing the infrastructure at Indoor Stadium have to wait. We are not allowed to play when the Governor is playing. This is just not fair, a regular visitor bemoaned. Francis Almeida, a retired banker who plays badminton says, Twice, whilst I was playing badminton with friend in the evening, I was asked to wrap up my game to make way for the Governor due to security reason. Another lady says We are not even allowed to enter the Indoor Stadium, when the Governor playing inside.. GT JoeSays: I too wanted to write on this: I have seen at least 4 cars/jeeps with atleast 12 people accompanying the governor to and fro Indoor Stadium plus several other policemen every 200 meters or at junctions on the road from Campal to Raj Bhavan. God knows how many security guards are there to protect him at his current official residence surrounded by land and sea. WHAT A WASTE OF PUBLIC MONEY ! A suggestion: Governor/s should be given an alternate official residence say within the new assembly Complex or nearby and he should be made to vacate the Cabo Raj Niwas which should be declared as public/tourist place (heritage building). Perhaps, the lesser known state museum near bus stand be shifted here including the two classic cars which belong to the last Governor General of Goa (Vasselio e Silva ?) which are gathering dust at St.Inez Fire Station. Adil Shahas Palace (old secretariat) is vacated, now it is time to vacate Cabo Raj Niwas. It may be noted, people around Donapaula used to go there (Raj Bhavan) for Sunday Masses which is now stopped due to security reasons. In the mean while, the Dept. of Archives and Archaeology decided to spend Rs.4 crores for restoration work and has invited agencies, architects and conservationists with experience to help in the restoration, beautification and maintenance of historical monument- Cabo de Rama fort at Kola, Canacona. Dabolim Airport: New International Terminal Minister for Civil Aviation, Praful Patel, announced in the Rajya Sabha yesterday that plans were afoot to construct a new international terminal building and additional parking stands at the Dabolim airport in Goa. A total of 15,655 international and domestic flights have operated at Dabolim airport in 2005-2006 and that the Passenger handled per day during peak season (November to February) in Dabolim sector varies from 1153 to 1241 in the international sector and 978 to 2428 in the domestic sector. During the off peak season (May to Sept), passengers handled per day is as low as 41 and 1141 in the international and domestic sectors, respectively. GT Janshatbdi ExpressTrain runs over 62 .. Tragedy Struck a poor Canacona farmer when 62 of his goats were crushed under Janshatbdi Express on Sunday 21st May. The tragic incident happened when the goat-herd was crossing the Talpona bridge along with 200 goats and was proceeding to Muthal late evening and just then the Janshatabdi Express came along. The animals panicked while some jump into the Talpona River and met watery graves, the others were crushed under wheels. A few however survived the disaster. Rate per goat about Rs.2000 and the farmer loss about Rs.1,00,000. (GT) Velsao Panchayat done it again: After only about 4 months in office, Sarpanch Agnelo Alcacoas ousted from office in a no-confidence motion by 4-0. He is the fourth sarpanch to be ousted during the current term. Number of times Sarpach/Dy. Sarpanch Ousted (mormugao cosntituency) Velsao 6 (now 7) Cortalim 5 Sancoale 4 Bogmolo 1 Cansaulim 0 Chicalim 0 Well done 7 team members of Velsao Panchayat, you can now well represent Goa at National level or perhaps, international level (sport/games I mean). In the mean time, discussion on no-trust motion against Mormugao Council Chief is fixed on June 5th Other News (mixed) -De Vinci Code to be released in India on May 26 -Sister complained to Verna police of molestation by her own 3 brothers. It appears to be a part of game viz. property Dispute -Bride raped by grooms foster father on the wedding night-Culcutta -Wife gets life imprisonment for killing her husband out of anger after he refused to let her visit her parents Patna . -Soon to be a Mother at 13, father at 15. when child is born, the child will also have an uncle who is only less than a year old.- UK Tiatr: HEM MOJEA UGDDASAK KORAT by Tony Dias 28th Mapusa, 29th Margao, 10th June Panaji, 18th Ponda [EM
Re: [Goanet] WE ARE ALL GOANS
Mario I have very mildly clashed with Ricardo previously on Goanet. If my memory serves me well, it was over his contention that, but for the Portuguese, all Goans would have been of Turkisk/Muslim provenance. Historically, this could well have been an alternative reality of course, but it was his implication that, the Goans ought to be grateful for Portuguese colonisation, because it was a better alternative, that I had found contentious. As for his next contention below, that, "all Portuguese came from Goa" (with or without a smiley), I prefer not to waste my time on obvious drivel. Nevertheless, I sincerely wish him well with all my heart. What would Goanet be if it did not receive contentious material? Cornel - Original Message - From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] WE ARE ALL GOANS --- Ricardo Nunes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: YOU ARE WRONG GABE, ALL PORTUGUESE CAME FROM GOA, HENCE THEIR DISTINCTIVELY GOAN CRISTIAN NAMES, HENCE THEIR APPRECIATION FOR THEIR GOAN VICE PRIME MINISTER COSTA. REGARDS ARJUN Mario observes: I wonder what Cornel is going to say about this assertion, which does not have a single smiley face? He got upset with me just for saying that the Portuguese got their names from Goan Catholics, and my post was full of smiley faces:-)) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: War and women
George Further to posts on Goanet, and just by way of a small aside, Margaret Thatcher was deemed, by some in the UK, to be the only man in her cabinet at the time of the Falklands war. Another point made by some bloke said that, "women's continuing wars are in the home i.e the expression and manifestation of aggression inwards onto the man of the house. Men's are channelled externally for the above reason! Regret I can't vouch for the authenticity of the second saying. Cornel - Original Message - From: "George Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:01 PM Subject: [Goanet] Re: War and women --- Elisabeth Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Which is why we'd have fewer wars if more women were incharge. Golda Mier, Indira Gandhi, Margaret Thatcher all took their nations to war. As a proportional percentage of women leaders, their war instincts were no better than men. Sadly. Regards, George _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] IS OBFUSCATION THE NAME OF THE GAME AT DABOLIM?
http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=17975 NEW INTERNATIONAL TERMINAL BUILDING FOR GOA AIRPORT -- 15:41 IST Rajya Sabha There is plan for a new international terminal building and additional parking stands at the Dabolim Airport in Goa. This information was given by Shri Pratel Patel, Minister for Civil Aviation in the Rajya Sabha today. This, he said, would improve the facilities and augment the additional spaces for international operations from Goa. As of now various facilities have been provided in the Goa Airport for international operations within the existing terminal building. The Airports Authority of India has already initiated action for acquiring additional land from the Indian Navy and the State Government for the expansion of the apron and the expansion of the international terminal building complex. **The Minister also informed the House that a total of 15655 international and domestic flights have operated at the Dabolim Airport in 2005-06. The passengers handled per day during peak season (November to February) in the Dabolim sector varies from 1153 to 1241 in the international sector and 978 to 2428 in the domestic sector. During lean season(May to September) passengers handled per day is as low as 41 for international and 1141 for domestic sector .** MC/GK -- Note the way data about Dabolim as been reportedly presented by the Civil Aviation Minister. He starts off well by giving current figures about "flights". This can now be compared to the "aircraft movements" for 1995-96 and 2013-14 given earlier. The updated totals are 8824, 15655 and 21708 respectively in serial order. Very roughly, this implies a near doubling in 10 years and projected growth of only 50% in the next 8 years. That is a CAGR of about 7% earlier vs only about 5% in future. The latter may be too low when the aviation scene (in terms of new airlines and new aircraft) has been growing phenomenally at present. A figure of at least higher than 7% should have been used. Hence, 8% would make it 80% higher than current levels. Then the hon minister switches to passengers handled per day. During the peak season, international passengers average about 1200 per day (plus or minus 50). The swing in domestic passengers is higher -- from about 1000 to 2500 although the latter may reflect the Dec/Jan spike. However, for the off peak period, the information is switched to minima! Why not give ranges to be consistent? International drops off dramatically as a result but it is not clear if this refers only to charter flights or includes international passengers on scheduled domestic flights also. Perhaps the latter maybe even just NRGs! The domestic passengers average holds up reasonably well if you allow for the sharp spike in Dec/Jan. I dont know if the unhomogenised data are due to the civil aviation ministry's lack of statistical sophistication in reporting or military control over Dabolim where this is probably given least importance. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Ek-Ankhi Konknni Nattkuleam Spordha-2006
EKANKHI KONKNNI NATTKULEAM SPORDHA 2006 "BHARAT"POILEM INAM ZODDTA Maiache 12ver, 2006, Kuwaitchea Maidan Hawally A/C vosreant Goem-Saxtti Talukeantlea Utorda ganvche hangasor rabito korun aslolea umedivont ani urbheborit ganv bhavnnache-UNITED CLUB OF UTORDA- hea aplea Klubachea asrea khal apli vorsuki 5vi ek-anki Konknni Nattkuleam Spordha ghoddun haddloli tantunt Bab Joe Ferreira (Assolna) hannem BorounDigdorsilelea BHARAT hea nattkak poilem inam favo zalem. Sogllea mellun char pongddanim spordhen bhag ghetlolo. Her inamam oxim favo zalim : - 2rem Inam Nivar Amkam Felix de Merces 3rem Inam Ho Pordes Ignatius de Xelvon Bhuzvonne Inam Mojim Panch Bottam Salu de Betalbatim. Boro Borovpi Ignatius de Xelvon Ho Pordes Boro Digdorspi Joe Ferreira Bharat Bori Machie Manddavoll Joe Ferreira Bharat Boro Dadlo Kolakar Ignatius de Xelvon Ho Pordes Bori Bail Kolakarn Gracy Morais Bharat Bori Bail (Character) Kolakarn Shoba Almeida Bharat. United Club Of Utorda dor vorsa hi ek-anki Konknni Nattkuleam Spordha ghoddun haddtat dekhun khorench tankam porbim favo. Hea oslim nattkulim vo spordha vorsachea vorsa ghoddun haddun duddu ekttavpacho he Sonsthecho hettu nhoi punn Konknni Maim Bhaxe ani hangasor zollimmollim ximpddun aslolea Goenkaranchea ekvotta kattir ani tech borobor lhan vhodd tornatteanchea angant ji kolechi vo artichi avodd lipun asa tika uttejonn divpa kattir hea Klubachea vavurpeancho mukhel hetu zaun asa. Hea Gulf Desant hea oslim nattkulim ghoddun haddop mhonnchem ek sadem ani fokannachem kam nhoi. Puskoll oddchonneank fuddo korchea korun orthik poristhitik suddam fuddo korcho poddta torui astana hanchi matui porva korinastana zanv klubache karbhari toxe Spordhent bhag ghevpi umedivont tornatte kalljidarponnim fuddem soron aplea angantli kola dakhovn lokachi vo hajir zallea lokachim kallzam jikhun ghetat ani ap aplea borea vaurachi mozuri mhonnon inamam zoddun ghetat. He nattkuleam spordhent her dusri moujechi kariavoll asli ti mhollear HANSPACHIM PILLAM (Comedy ) ani torekvar gitam. Hanspachim Pillam Bab Mario de Majorda ani Comedian Philip hanim dilim. Dor ek gavpean aplea suadik avazan prekxokank umedir dovorle. Ami Utoddddekar Bab Seby Mascarenhas Utoddddeche kaim adle ani atanchea tiatristachi iad korun voznadik kantar mhonnlelem tem mottea talleanchea avazan vosro gazoilo. Bab Elrich Miranda atth vorsachea poran somplelea Minguel Rod-achem nhessnan machier ievn Hanv Minguel Rod hea nanvan git gailolem tem taka porot ekdam machier apoun lokak dipkailo. Nelson-Laurie M hancho duo Tagddecho Kantto mon divn prekxokan aikolo zalear Marcus Vaz ani Querobina Nalla hea tanchea komedi duet-ak don pavtti machier ievnchem poddlem. Jacinto Noronha, Bab Agnel, Sylvester Barretto hanchim kantaram aikopa xarki aslim. Mogachi Kanni lokacho avddicho Zorro-n poilech khepek aplea niz mogachi khobor ugdapi keli. Duensam koddsun pois ravchem oxi xiddkavnni Tony De Pomburba ditana Xikop kitle meren monxak upeogachem tem Nelson Ferns aplea gitan sanglem. Novech voir sortele (Lobos Bros) Michael ani Alex hancho duo Onupkari Put prekxokank avoddlo. Sylvester Vaz-achem solo Egyptak Ghoddta aikopa sarko aslolo zalear Mugllurchi vesaik gavpin Bai Thelma Vienna DSouza-n Kuwaitcho Nhovro hea gitan, purai vosro umedir dovorlo ani tika dusre khepek machier ievnchem poddlem. Braz de Parra Ankvarponn ani Michael DSilva Monxak Xanti Na gitanim loka koddlean abru zoddlo. Marcus Vaz-acho solo Padricho Sermanv prekxokank niallpa sarko kanar boro boslo ani xevottak Chinvlele Polle cheddvachea bhesan Comedian Philip-an mhonntlem git polleancho ros iev porian portean-portean machier bonvandde ghalche poddle. Spordheche porikxok (judges) zavn asle Francis de Verna, Irene Vaz ani Francis de Tuem. Bab Shahu Almeida-n songitak sad dilo. Bab Vitorino Pereira, ho ek adlo nanvlovkik zaun gello khell tiatr Borovpi ani Digdorspi he spordeche kariavollik mukhel pavnno mhonn UCU hanchea amontronan khas Goem than ieun hajir zallo. Kuwait-an rabito kortele Bab Blandinho Viegas mukhel soire mhonn asle. Hea kariavoliche sutr-sorchalon (compere) choloilem Bab Lino Dourado-n ani Bab Richard Rodrigues hannem. Spordhecho nikal UCU chitnis Richard-an jahir kelo ani tannench abar mannle. Anthony Correia Pienkar ( 6726014 Mob) Pilerne Goa / Kuwait. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] PDD,,,,,,Oh yeah ??
I can think of two women who were leaders who were probably afflicted with PDD,,] Thatcher and Gandhi. There would most certainly be more if women had the "bs" and were up to the rigors of leadership :) Keep rockin the cradle. We love y'all. Vivian_ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] HERE WE GO AGAIN! [2nd try]
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=052314 BJP launches Mopa awareness drive NT News Service 1. What exactly are the "limitations"? The runway is big enough to accommodate 747s. The terminal is expected to be expanded by the 7-9 acres of land to be released by the Navy. It is the landing and take-off slots which are at a premium in a low cost aviation regime. And this constraint is solely because of the Navy's guile. It may require a political battering ram -- not a feather duster --to achieve a breakthrough on this particular front. 2. Why is the work on re-designing Mopa to function in tandem with Dabolim for the long haul not being undertaken? Why is no one saying anything about traffic sharing in a period of much higher growth than was factored into the original Mopa report? How do the pro-Mopa elements answer the pro-Dabolim faction's fears that Dabolim wll die a natural death once Mopa goes onstream. It's no use Navy people saying that "Dabolim will remain a civilian airport till kingdom come". We dont want it to become a VVIP/private jet enclave with ordinary folks shunted to a distant new airport which results in higher air fares. Traffic growth projections and traffic sharing must be discussed upfront and continuously monitored and adjusted for joint viability by an agency sitting in Panjim, not Delhi. The problems of night flights at Dabolim must be meaningfully addressed and not allowed to be an excuse for dilly dallying by the Navy over slots. We need to see some "learning" in Goa about the aviation scene, for Goa's sake. Over a year has gone since the issue broke and we are still spinning wheels with the same tired arguments. What's the matter? Phew! _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] ADC- May 24
'Paiem chuklear hoti legun poddta"...Konkani Proverb If there be a slip of the foot, even the elephant falls down. Even big men fall, when they lose their balance in business. Edward Verdes Chinchinim/Mumbai/KSA _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Desecration of the Portuguese language in Goa post 61
Ask Imelda and she will tell ya, what the miniscule langauge meant to people in Goa before 61. BC === > > > "bharat" has so many REAL languages that it would > make > absolutely no sense for anyone to claim that it was > "desecrating" the Portuguese language, which was > limited to a miniscule number of people in Bharat. > > > > > _ > Do not post admin requests to the list. > Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] RE: AMCHEM NOXIB/NIRMONN VCD/DVDs
I tried to send email 3 times it came back undelivered all times. Tried one cell no (at around 9pm)which says 'temporariliy out of service' and the other cell 'out of coverage area'. will give another try later today. === Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 203.199.83.132 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable Giving up on 203.199.83.132. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] VICE PRIME MINISTER COSTA
Mr. Nunes Besugão: Minister António Costa was born in Portugal with cape verde's parents. As Nelly Furtado, he has nothing to see with Goa. Regards, Henrique Salles da Fonseca - Lisbon _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Please identify these two spots (further clues provided)
Hi guys, Surprised to see only two entries so far. Infact, I thought I would receive maximum number of enties Here are additional clues: 1. An island seen in the backgroud (Sea) is occupied by or belongs to Indian NAVY. 2. I deleted dates photo taken on both pics, otherwise, it would have been more easier for you - Think here why ? 3. OK, take 'salcette' off now from the clue already provided (see below). Remember, you can always write back even if you know just one Ans. Because you know I like it. == Please identify these two spots Hint: It's either in Canacona, Salcette or Murmagoa Talukas. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/150431499/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/150431494/ Cruise ship also seen in the background. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] CIVIL AVIATION MINISTER"S LOGIC CUTS SORRY FIGURE
http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp?aid=297334&ssid=50&sid=BUS In yesterday's TOI there is a story titled "Free landing, cheaper ATF at smaller cities". It begins by itemising five year 'holiday' from parking and navigation charges for operating 'feeder services' (presumably from small towns to metros); and a mere 4% levy of duties on ATF (vs 24-38% charged at most airports). But what takes the cake is the following: "The airlines that choose to operate flights between small towns spread across India and connect them to major metros will also be offered concessions for overnight parking of planes AT SOME OF THE METROS LIKE MUMBAI AND DELHI, civil aviation minister Praful Patel said." Now the hon Minister never fails to give lip sevice in TV appearances to the need for reducing the concentration of Mumbai and Delhi in the country's air traffic scenario. This is generally placed at a minimum of 50% and could be as high as 70% for the two. All along the talk was about encouraging new airlines to use smaller arports as bases. Now we have a switch which involves incentives to feeder airlines to not only fly to congested metros but park their planes there! What's the big idea? In his heart of hearts the minister seems to subscribe to the old fashioned hub and spoke system of airline route planning. What is needed in India is the point-to-point system of direct low cost flights. Feeder airlines should be prepared to fly to smaller airports near the metros. Thus part of the journey on such airlnes could be by surface transport (car, bus, taxi, train etc). In this way, the metros like Mumbai and Delhi can be bypassed if needed and congestion would be alleviated. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
