*** Goa wants expats to leave (Pushpa Iyengar in DNA)
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1033200 Goa wants expats to leave Pushpa Iyengar Saturday, June 03, 2006 21:04 IST PANAJI: They helped build brand Goa, fell in love with it and decided to stay on forever. But it seems that they have worn out their welcome. Foreigners who helped make Goa what it is today are no longer welcome to stay. 'Spend your Euros and return home', is the clear message that is being sent out to the expatriates — especially the predominant British population. This message also extends to the French, German and Italian populace, among others, who have made Goa their home and run some of its most successful restaurants. These expats have stayed on by extending their tourist visas, which demands them to return home after the expiry period. They inevitably return to India with an extension of the period of their stay. Ironically enough, the Congress government which is trying to make it difficult for foreigners with tourist visas to live permanently in Goa is unsure if its unwelcome gesture is legal. To begin with Chief Minister Pratapsing Rane said foreigners on tourist visas may no longer buy land or do business in the state. The business he is believed to be referring to includes running bars, bakeries and restaurants. For instance, a German expatriate living in Anjuna began the first genuine production of whole wheat bread in the 70s. His success spawned a host of so-called 'German bread' bakeries in Goa. Candolim's (north Goa) La Fenice Pvt Ltd, a registered firm run by two Italians who have adopted Indian names and run a Italian restaurant or Mobor's (south Goa) Gaffino Ventures Inc whose director Brian Gaffino lives in California during the off season, are many such success stories. Surprisingly, the first objection was raised by the Nationalist Congress party, whose president Dr Wilfred de Souza is married to a UK national. Rane responded saying his government would send circulars to concerned sub-registrars to submit details of foreigners seeking registration for buying property. The details and government's legal position will be studied before registering properties. Rane has also threatened an investigation into properties already registered which could expose the nexus between locals who sell properties and foreign buyers contravening FEMA (foreign Exchange Management Act) that allows foreigners on business and commercial visas to buy properties by forming Indian companies under the Companies Act. But not all foreigners are worried. Sinead Mcnanus who runs a hotel Pepper Valley near a wildlife sanctuary said, I think it's fair. You must have laws that differentiate between business and tourist visas for those who want to run businesses at least.
[Goanet] ABBE FARIA COMMEMORATIVE STAMP
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Postscript: It would be more preferable if Goans worldwide could purchase a total of three postcards . . . the third one promptly addressed to CTT Correios of Portugal, thanking for the gift of a commemorative postcard in Abbe Faria's name and memory. Furthermore, requesting CTT Correios to reconsider the issuance of an actual stamp during Abbe's 250th Birth Anniversary year, since a colorful marquette of the would be stamp has been created and the same test-printed on the commemorative postcard with stunning results! CTT's mailing address is: CTT - Correios de Portugal, SA Philately Rua S. José, 20 1166-001 Lisboa Portugal email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: ctt.pt Dom Martin _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Woman priest says Mass
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- The answer to the Mario's question is pretty simple: It is called a welfare state. If in case Gilbert and Mario are not aware, secular, democratic rule has superseded the closed, theocratic institutions they talk so highly about. If anything one could argue that the reach and cradle to grave scope of the secular welfare state has become overly excessive. As for a consistent moral compass that religion apparently provides, one has to wonder which religion or even brand of Christianity they are referring to. I do agree that Christianity has been so successful -there are so many versions of them, covering the gamut from rationalizing slavery and apartheid to the selfless charity of Mother Theresa. Christian? Yes. Consistent? Hmm. The dichotomy of views and lack of consistency is also apparent in the beliefs of these two individuals. Mario for example stated that the late Pope John Paul aligned the Catholic Church with the Islamic fundamentalists by opposing the US led attack on Iraq. Gilbert for his part believes that the Catholic Church can do no wrong to the point of denying that Hindu temples were destroyed during Portuguese rule in Goa. Will the true defender of the Christian faith please stand up! Marlon --- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mario, I am sure you would not mind / want to discriminate / prevent other card carrying atheists / agnostics from answering the second paragraph of your well written post (see below). In my communications with this group, they are great in articulating the limitations of other's beliefs. Yet when it comes to explaining their own beliefs and actions they appear tongue-tied. I'd welcome / encourage them to have a Progressive Igroz with a woman pope. They even have a good candidate for the job. And very articulate members on this forum (donât have to go far) who could hold other high offices. Their religion could expound on multiple spouses, lax moral, social and legal codes etc etc. So what is holding them back? Their joy of torturing the rest of us perhaps.:=)) The next demographic study of Goans can even have a category of Goan atheists/agnostics. This in addition to the current Hindus, Catholics and Muslims. I am sure the ever-generous Khoro Niz Goenkars will make room for these bhaile. Kind Regards, GL From: Mario Goveia As an atheist convert and evangelist with the typical hubris and what can I get away with today moral compass, it does not surprise me at all that you are deliberately misconstruing my posts, because I have done anything but blindly follow the shephard. I will have far more respect when you can show me long-standing and world-wide atheist-supported schools, hospitals, nursing homes, homes for the aged, orphanages and other charitable organizations, as well as a rock solid moral compass going back thousands of years that no one with even half a brain can misunderstand. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Journalism in Portuguese India 1821-1961
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Dear Prof. Cornel, by continental I mean the Portuguese territory situated on the European continent, i.e. on the European mainland. This is where Portugal was founded and where, for over eight centuries, its capital has been situated. continent (LAND) noun [C] one of the seven large land masses on the Earth's surface, surrounded, or mainly surrounded, by sea and usually consisting of various countries: the North American continent Asia and Africa are the two biggest continents. continental adjective continental waters (from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary) Message: 8 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:21:50 +0100 From: cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Journalism in Portuguese India 1821-1961 Constantino Please will you clarify the term you used belowcontinental Portugal? Thanks Cornel - Original Message - specially in continental Portugal, _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Past BBC programmes on Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- In the ongoing discussions about Portugal Goa and India, I had inadvertantly overlooked the important point made by Marlon that, Portugal later recognized India's annexation of Goa. Does anyone readily have the date for this please? Cornel - Original Message - From: Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: RE: [Goanet] Past BBC programmes on Goa * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Perhaps Mario should read American history books! The US backed Portugal and condemned the Indian invasion/liberation of Goa. The USSR and China supported India. Looks like Mario has officially ackowledged his links to the leftist brigade! The issue was closed when Portugal later recognized India's annexation of Goa. Marlon --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario responds: Typical Paulo... :-)) You are obviously reading Portuguese history books, my friend. That's not what MY history books say :-)) Believe me, as a nationalist whose family were warned to stay away from Goa by the dictatorial Portuguese colonialists, I liked the events of December 18, 1961, a lot! We celebrated with the little fenny we had left. We had no authentic cheurisam made from Goa's live sanitation system left :-)) We had no parra left. Finally, we could go to Goa, experience again a place caught in a time-warp, bathe in well water drawn fresh, read by candlelight, walk the rutted, dusty red roads, pluck cajus and mangos off the trees, and replenish our stocks of Goan delicacies and refill our garafaos :-)) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Galileo, Dan Brown and The Church
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the predominence of Catholic Goans on this list, there is a large bank of people who will mount a vigorous defence of their religion if it is attacked. Unfortunately, when individuals make insensitive and bigoted comments against hindus and muslims on this forum, one is often met with silence. My desire is to defend the under-represented on this forum. _ What an incredible way of defending the under-represented -- by offending the rest of the populace and thrashing their religious beliefs. Lack of self-respect invariably renders insensitivity and disrespect for others. Best, Joe Vaz _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] ABBE FARIA COMMEMORATIVE POSTCARD
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Although CTT Correios of Portugal has not updated its website, one can view the commemorative Abbe Faria postcard it issued at www.abbefaria.com. Once CTT updates its website, the postcard can be purchased online. I ask Goans worldwide to purchase two postcards. The first postcard to be addressed to Mr. Sachin Kishore , Assistant Director General, Ministry of Communications IT, India -- with whom, I have been in contact with and who is somewhat hopeful on the issuance of an Abbe Faria stamp -- urging him to prioritize the request and consideration of an Abbe Faria stamp when Indias Philatelic Advisory Committee next meets. Mr. Sachin Kishores mailing address is: Ministry of Communications IT Department of Posts Dak Bhawan New Delhi 111 India The second postcard is to be retained and subsequently -- hopefully -- affixed with an Abbe Faria stamp issued by India, and the postcard then circulated worldwide to ensure Abbe Farias legacy among Goans and non-Goans, as also to educate them on one solitary Goans epic contribution to science more than 2 centuries ago. Objectives can be achieved if we undertake the burden rather than depute it on others while we rock ourselves on the complacent chair of expectations. Dom Martin _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Woman priest says Mass
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- --- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd welcome / encourage them to have a Progressive Igroz with a woman pope. They even have a good candidate for the job. And very articulate members on this forum (donât have to go far) who could hold other high offices. Their religion could expound on multiple spouses, lax moral, social and legal codes etc etc. So what is holding them back? Their joy of torturing the rest of us perhaps.:=)) The next demographic study of Goans can even have a category of Goan atheists/agnostics. This in addition to the current Hindus, Catholics and Muslims. I am sure the ever-generous Khoro Niz Goenkars will make room for these bhaile. Kind Regards, GL Mario observes: Gilbert, You have taken a far more scholarly approach to this that I had ever intended. I will now get out of the way of the inevitable brickbats :-)) There I was, minding my own business, chatting with Elizabeth about the hubris of the woman who just up and declares herself a Roman Catholic woman priest (see http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2006-May/043123.html) when suddenly, out of the Canadian bushes, up jumps Kevin, with a nasty and totally fact-free comment attacking me for being a servile sheep blindly following and being manipulated by the shepherd (see http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2006-May/043142.html). Anyone who has read my posts knows that I have been a vociferous critic of the current and previous shepherds, publicly challenging the conventional wisdom for very narrow and specific reasons that have been articulated in great detail. I also have respect for whatever beliefs people choose to have, unless they shove these in my face, or make wildly bogus comments, whichever comes first. So, I politely pointed out to Kevin, that he was wrong, and that his personal, unorganized what can I get away with today version of The Seven Suggestions had failed to grasp the facts of my beliefs, and, if deliberate, perhaps needed to be taken in for some fine tuning :-)) I know that Kevin has worked very hard at re-defining The Ten Commandments into his personal unorganized atheist version of The Seven Suggestions, so he should be all right now. Just needed a friendly reminder :-)) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Journalism in Portuguese India 1821-1961
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Constantino, Do you really maintain that the last part of your following sentence is correct: «Goa has never been independent, nor has there been any relevant movement aspiring to that status»? If so, how would you classify the Conjuracao dos Pintos (The Pinto Revolt) of 1787 which aimed at making of Goa a republic based on the lofty principles (later proclaimed by the French) of liberty, equality and fraternity? Jorge _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] Reminder on morality and social conscience
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is to remind ourselves that the notion that a moral compass or social conscience is dependent on adherence to some form of ideology, religion or atheistic belief system, has been thoroughly discredited in this and other Goan forums. It has also been shown that no religion, ideology or atheistic belief system has ever had a rock-solid moral compass. Mario responds: I agree with Santosh's redundant reminder that an individual's moral compass is theoretically not dependent on any ideology or religious or non-religious belief, and that the results can be the same on a day-to-day basis. However, I must have missed been shown that there is no rock solid religious moral compass. By definition an individual unorganized atheist, as opposed to defined and highly organized atheist groups like the Buddhists and Jains and others that function very much like religions, cannot have anything that can be called a rock solid moral compass because it is whatever the unorganized individual says it is. The difference in my opinion is one of checks and balances. For example, Christians have a rock-solid Golden Rule and also a rock solid list of Ten Commandments. While individual Christians may follow their own course, doing so comes with religious consequences for a practicing Christian. Similarly, organized atheists groups like Buddhists and Jains have rock solid standards for their members. Individual unorganized atheists MAY have what could be summarized as the Seven Suggestions that overlap similar strictures in the Ten Commandments. However, these carry no consequences by any organized and influential group other than those imposed by civil or criminal law. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] PREACHING AT TIMOR
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- --- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario You must be reading Fox News. Good luck to you. Mario responds: You are obviously reading The Guardian and the BBC, which is why you have no clue that it was the UN that dropped the ball in Timor Leste :-)) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] 'GOANETTERS ANNUAL BALL'
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Let's give it a rest shall we, Mario ? Being garrulous is no excuse for being verbose. You threw, I called it. When we meet in person, we shall see the proof of the pudding shan't we ??? As Cornel says, you sure are one mixed-up 'kid'. Like him, Paulo, etc. I shall leave you to your own devices. I'm sure Kevin, Alfred, etc, will continue to provide more fodder for you. Whilst on the subject,GN, how about an annual or biennial Goa-Netters Ball ? I know Fred has tried without too much success to organise Goanetter get-togethers in Goa, in the past. In the meantime, Goa-net has grown from a fledgling couple of dozen netters, to numbers in excess of 9,000 which speaks volumes - if any small goan social club with a couple of hundred members can organise lavish annual dances, balls, what's to stop Goa-net, virtually 50 times their size !! Fred's started the ball rolling, lets's go for it. Naturally, there's considerations of time and space. Not everybody is available at the same time or place - given goanetter distribution throughout the diaspora. But given their fair traffic through the UK, Goa or North America, one of the 3 would be a rather better choice than say, the Middle East or Australia, 2 lesser goanet strongholds. Even though I don't live there, Goa however would be an obvious choice - this is after all a mailing-list, a forum, by Goans, for Goans - bound by our unique Goan identity. I'm willing to give it a shot, how about other netters? I shall be happy to play host, either in Goa or N. America (well, at least the first time!). Choose a good time - summer, easter or christmas vacations sound good. Christmas would seem the somewhat obvious choice - it's a common holiday season through- out the diaspora, truckloads of goans from all over the world pour into amchem goem - and there's nothing to beat that old-world nostalgia of goan 'natalam'. With stalwarts like Fred, Bosco, George, Floriano to organise the 'awards nite', we can certainly go places. My own personal experience is that social interaction of this sort not only builds stronger bonds (and God knows we need that!), but engenders mutual respect ! Netters who've been virulently combative over the years finally meet, to find out its just a kindly soul at the other end rather than 'bitter old men'! What an opportunity to meet Dominic, VM de M, Valmiki, Cecil d'Expression, Bospam, Dulci Gabe, antsy-pantsy 'super-Mario', Miguel, Rico, and of course, the enigmatic ever-young Herman, even younger 'dear aunty'(haha) and countless other netters. Finally, my sympathies to you Mario, for being 'unable to place' me, oh how deliciously delightful that phrase rolls. I did mention being ' a strange bird of passage' didn't I ?! I'll leave you with my favorite-Baroness D'Orczy's Scarlet Pimpernel They seek him here, they seek him there..! Francis. I have no idea what an un-goan thing is, but just to relieve Francis and his complex personality of his delusion of intellectual superiority, I really didn't want to know anything about this incredible search for eternal youth and a sinless, spoon-bending nirvana on earth, though it does explain some of the other, more earthy, tendencies that we have seen from him on Goanet :-)) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] 24 gaddas outside GMC removed
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- http://oheraldo.in/node/14672 24 gaddas outside GMC removed BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, JUNE 2 – The North Goa Administration on Friday removed twenty-four gaddas stationed outside the GMC, Bambolim. The North Goa Administration had received a communiqué fromGMC authorities following instructions from the government that the kiosks dotting the entrance of GMC complex should be removed.In all, 24 gaddas were removed in the operation between 11 am to 4 pm under the supervision of the Deputy Collector, Agnel Fernandes assisted by Joint Mamlatdar Parag Nagarcekar. Gaddawallas were served with ultimatum to clear their activities within 24 hours on, informed officials. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] RE : Kiss which cheek first?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 02/06/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario observes: For the spatially challenged among us, if the kisser starts with the kissee's right cheek, he or she would be starting from their - the kisser's - left, and vice versa. I think the kisser should start on their right, which would be the kissee's left cheek. RESPONSE: Needless to say, you think incorrectly; I trust that kissing on the cheeks, by Goan Catholics, is derived from the former Colonialists, the Portuguese. The way it is done in Portugal as explained by a Portuguese, is as follows: http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Portugal/Distrito_de_Lisboa/Lisbon-286122/Local_Customs-Lisbon-Social_interactions-BR-1.html Social interactions: Kissing Written by Mundus on October 7, 2003. Portuguese love to kiss. When I lived in the US I almost got myself into trouble because when I got introduced to girls I would give them two kisses, even with their boyfriends there. That's the way we do it in Portugal. Very few hand shakes between opposite sex people. The tipical Portuguese kiss goes like this: you turn your head to the left and kiss the other people's right cheek then you turn your head to the right and kiss the left cheek. Simple! Now go out there and do some kissing! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] review of The DaVinci Code
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Just after I had posted my views on The DaVinci Code, afriend sent me this. I think it's from The New Yorker. eugene --- HEAVEN CAN WAIT The Da Vinci Code. by ANTHONY LANE Issue of 2006-05-29 Posted 2006-05-22 The story of The Da Vinci Code goes lik this. A dead Frenchman is found laid out on th floor of the Louvre. His final act was to carve number of bloody markings into his own flesh indicating, to the expert eye, that he wa preparing to roll in fresh herbs and sear himsel in olive oil for three minutes on each side. This however, is not the conclusion reached b Robert Langdon (Tom Hanks), a professor o symbology at Harvard, who happens to be i Paris. Questioned by Bezu Fache (Jean Reno) the investigating policeman at the scene Langdon starts rabbiting about pentacles an pagans and God knows what. But what does God know, exactly? And can He keep His mouth shut? Help arrives in the shape of Sophie Neveu (Audrey Tautou), a police cryptographer. She turns out to be the granddaughter of the deceased, and a dab hand at reversing down Paris streets in a car the size of a pissoir. This is useful, since she and Langdon are soon on the run, convinced that Fache is about to nail the professor on a murder charge-the blaming of Americans, on any pretext, being a much loved Gallic sport. Our hero, needing somebody to trust, does the same dumb thing that every fleeing innocent has done since Robert Donat in The Thirty-nine Steps. He and Sophie visit a cheery old duffer in the countryside and spill every possible bean. In this case, the duffer is Sir Leigh Teabing (Ian McKellen), who lectures them on the Emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicaea, in 325 A.D. We get a flashback to the council in question, and I must say that, though I have recited the Nicene Creed throughout my adult life, I never realized that it was originally formulated in the middle of a Beastie Boys concert. Fache is not the only hunter on Langdon's scent. There is also Silas (Paul Bettany), a cowled albino monk whose hobbies include self-flagellation, multiple homicide, and irregular Latin verbs. He works for Opus Dei, the Catholic organization so intensely secretive that its American headquarters are tucked away in a seventeen-story building on Lexington Avenue. Silas answers to Bishop Aringarosa (Alfred Molina), who in turn answers to his cell phone, his Creator, and not much else. Between them, they track Langdon and Sophie to England, where a new villain, hitherto suspected by nobody except the audience, is prevented from shooting his quarry because, unusual for London, there is a gaggle of nuns in the way-God's Work if ever I saw it, although I wouldn't say so to a member of Opus Dei. The task of the Bishop and his hit man is to thwart the unveiling of what Teabing modestly calls the greatest secret in modern history, so powerful that, if revealed, it would devastate the very foundations of Christianity. Later, realizing that this sounds a little meek and mild, he stretches it to the greatest coverup in human history. As a rule, you should beware of any movie in which characters utter lines of dialogue whose proper place is on the advertising poster. (Just imagine Sigourney Weaver, halfway through Alien, turning to John Hurt and explaining, In space, no one can hear you scream.) There is a nasty sense in The Da Vinci Code that, not unlike Langdon, we are being bullied into taking its pronouncements at face value. Such nagging has a double effect. First, any chance to enjoy the proceedings as hokum-as a whip-cracking quest along the lines of Raiders of the Lost Ark-is rapidly stifled and stilled. Second, one's natural reaction to arm-twisters of any description is to wriggle free, turn around, and kick them in the pentacles. So here goes. There has been much debate over Dan Brown's novel ever since it was published, in 2003, but no question has been more contentious than this: if a person of sound mind begins reading the book at ten o'clock in the morning, at what time will he or she come to the realization that it is unmitigated junk? The answer, in my case, was 10:00.03, shortly after I read the opening sentence: Renowned curator Jacques Saunière staggered through the vaulted archway of the museum's Grand Gallery. With that one word, renowned, Brown proves that he hails from the school of elbow-joggers-nervy, worrisome authors who can't stop shoving us along with jabs of information
[Goanet] 'Purumentanchem' feast-fair to continue in St Cruz, Panaji Margao
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- 'Purumentanchem' feast-fair to continue in St Cruz, Panaji Margao June 1, 2006 A huge fair was held on the occasion of Purumentanchem feast near the Mary Immaculate Panaji Church Square recently. In earlier days, the fair used to have provisional items comprising Goan chillies, dry fish, spices, onion and other eatables and toys but now the items on for sale are mainly ready-made garments for gents, ladies and children, footwear, house-hold items, imitation jewellery items and the like. The feast used to normally remain for about a week for the residents to shop and buy the items of their choice. In the past, only local people used to sell their locally made items and wares. In fact this time, 'Purumentanchem' feast begins from Agacaim and will move to St Cruz, Panaji city and thereafter to Margao. http://www.fibre2fashion.com/news/fashion-news/newsdetails.aspx?news_id= 17894 ~(^^)~ Avelino _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] link to award-winning story
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- A friend in Canada won the second prize in the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's short story contest. Here's the link www.enroutemag.com/e/cbclitawards2006/happiness_a.html eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Dev Borem Korum, Adieu, Adios.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few months ago it seems a hornet's nest was disturbed, by the farewell salutations used here! Yesterday whilst watching Master Mind, a common farewell used in French and Spanish amongst other 'Latin' languages, Adieu = To God So it seems it is not just Konkani that invokes God, so eat your hearts out fellas! Mario adds: In addition, those familiar with Hindi speaking central India would be familiar with a popular greeting in Hindi, Ram, Ram! Are there some other God-related greetings in other languages that we can document to confound our atheist brethren? :-)) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Book ‘Alfred da Silva and BoB in Goa’ released
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=06044 Book ‘Alfred da Silva and BoB in Goa’ released NT News Desk Panaji, June 3: The second edition of brochure, ‘Alfred da Silva and BoB in Goa’ authored by Dr Jose de Sousa and late Maria Luis, was released at International Centre, Goa, at Dona Paula, recently, by Dr Pedro Cabral Adao, the Consul General of Portugal in Goa. Present on the occasion were Mr C P Kulkarni, assistant general manager of Bank of Baroda, staff members and former staff members of the bank. Retrospecting on the occasion, Dr Jose de Sousa, former manager of Bank of Baroda, outlined various features of the bank during the tenure of late Alfred da Silva, the first manager in various branches in Goa, who had been a banker par excellence and under whose dynamic leadership, in a short span of seven years, 13 branches were opened in Goa. Rich tributes were paid to late Alfred da Silva and late Maria Luis, the co-author of the brochure by Mr Kulkarni and by Dr Adao. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goa news for June 4, 2006
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Da Vinci banned in more states (Gulf Times) NEW DELHI: In less than a week after the delayed release of The Da Vinci Code in India, Andhra Pradesh, Meghalaya and Pondicherry have joined Goa, Nagaland, Punjab and Tamil Nadu in banning the controversial film. http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2item_no=89747version=1template_id=40parent_id=22 *** 'Da Vinci Code' movied banned in parts of India (CBC) Seven of India's 29 states have banned the movie The Da Vinci Code saying it is insulting to Christians. Officials in the southern state of Andhra Pradesh said Friday they were joining six other states including Goa, Punjab and Tamil Nadu which have made similar announcements this week. http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2006/06/03/davincicode-india.html?ref=rss *** Goa geared up to tackle oil spill (Navhind Times) Panaji, June 1: The state government machinery is geared up to tackle any oil spill menace along the Goa coast, officials sources said, following reports that the oil spilled from a merchant vessel off-Karwar coast has touched Karwar and Deobag coasts in Karnataka and that the spill is moving towards Goa. http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=060214 *** Underground power lines in S Goa: Goa to ask Centre for Rs 60 crore (Navhind Times) Margao, June 1: The state government is going to ask for Rs 60 crore from the Centre to undertake the underground cabling of all 33 KV and 11 KV high tension lines in the coastal belt of Benaulim, Colva, Betalbatim, Varca, Fatrade going right up to Mobor. http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=060215 *** Heavy rain in Gujarat, Goa (The Hindu) Four more persons died in rain-related incidents in Gujarat http://www.thehindu.com/2006/06/03/stories/2006060307341300.htm *** Monsoon enters Mumbai, widespread rains in Goa, Kerala (Outlook India) The South-West monsoon entered Mumbai with torrential showers lashing the metropolis today injuring six even as incessant rains continued to pound Kerala and Goa claiming 11 lives so far and leaving a trail of destruction. http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=388986 *** Heavy rains in Gujarat, Goa; four more dead (Outlook India) Heavy rains today lashed Goa inundating low-lying areas and Gujarat, where four more persons died in rain-related incidents pushing the toll in the past two days to 12 as monsoon gathered strength in Arunachal Pradesh cutting off a part of the state from rest of the country. http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=389475 *** Ship breaks into two, oil spill moves to south Goa coast (Outlook India) A merchant vessel stranded in the rocks off Karwar coast near Devgad island today broke into two pieces and the oil that spilled from the vessel touched south Goan shores even as Coast Guard continued the operations to contain the spill. http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=389516 *** Coastal Goan villages alerted about spread of oil spill (Outlook India) Goa government has alerted all coastal village panchayats and municipalities besides the tourism department to maintain a strict watch to check spread of oil spill along the coastline even as Coast Guard was engaged in disintegrating the oil leaked into the Arabian Sea from a ship. http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=389444 *** Congress MP threatens to stop screening of `Da Vinci Code'' (India Daily) With a multiplex in Goa starting to show the controversial film The Da Vinci Code, Congress MP Churchill Alemao has threatened to forcibly stop the screenings from tomorrow. The Inox multiplex management has been given a deadline till this evening to stop screening the movie. http://www.indiadaily.com/breaking_news/72377.asp Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goa wants expats to leave (Pushpa Iyengar in DNA)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1033200 Goa wants expats to leave Pushpa Iyengar Saturday, June 03, 2006 21:04 IST PANAJI: They helped build brand Goa, fell in love with it and decided to stay on forever. But it seems that they have worn out their welcome. Foreigners who helped make Goa what it is today are no longer welcome to stay. 'Spend your Euros and return home', is the clear message that is being sent out to the expatriates — especially the predominant British population. This message also extends to the French, German and Italian populace, among others, who have made Goa their home and run some of its most successful restaurants. These expats have stayed on by extending their tourist visas, which demands them to return home after the expiry period. They inevitably return to India with an extension of the period of their stay. Ironically enough, the Congress government which is trying to make it difficult for foreigners with tourist visas to live permanently in Goa is unsure if its unwelcome gesture is legal. To begin with Chief Minister Pratapsing Rane said foreigners on tourist visas may no longer buy land or do business in the state. The business he is believed to be referring to includes running bars, bakeries and restaurants. For instance, a German expatriate living in Anjuna began the first genuine production of whole wheat bread in the 70s. His success spawned a host of so-called 'German bread' bakeries in Goa. Candolim's (north Goa) La Fenice Pvt Ltd, a registered firm run by two Italians who have adopted Indian names and run a Italian restaurant or Mobor's (south Goa) Gaffino Ventures Inc whose director Brian Gaffino lives in California during the off season, are many such success stories. Surprisingly, the first objection was raised by the Nationalist Congress party, whose president Dr Wilfred de Souza is married to a UK national. Rane responded saying his government would send circulars to concerned sub-registrars to submit details of foreigners seeking registration for buying property. The details and government's legal position will be studied before registering properties. Rane has also threatened an investigation into properties already registered which could expose the nexus between locals who sell properties and foreign buyers contravening FEMA (foreign Exchange Management Act) that allows foreigners on business and commercial visas to buy properties by forming Indian companies under the Companies Act. But not all foreigners are worried. Sinead Mcnanus who runs a hotel Pepper Valley near a wildlife sanctuary said, I think it's fair. You must have laws that differentiate between business and tourist visas for those who want to run businesses at least. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] ALERT:Civil Supplies Inspector caught taking bribe in South Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. - Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED, The time is come for the people of Goa to ORGANISE not AGONISE !! -- -- Civil Supplies inspector caught on camera -- An Anti-Corruption Bureau (ACB) team on Friday evening trapped a Civil Supplies inspector allegedly accepting a bribe from a fair price shop owner in a hotel at Quepem Bazaar. Inspector Jercy Pinto, a resident of Velim, was allegedly caught red-handed on camera in the hotel accepting a bribe of Rs 1,000 from the shop owner, Pramod Naik Borkar of Cacora-Curchorem, officials said. They further stated that Pinto had allegedly demanded a kickback from Borkar to withdraw a show-cause notice issued to him by the Civil Supplies Department for irregularities in one of his fair price shops. On May 29, Pinto met Borkar at the same hotel where he asked the latter for the bribe. The complainant taped the conversation and presented it to the ACB who swung into action, the officials said. DySP Om Kurtarkar, PI Rajendra Prabhudessai, along with others, under the supervision of ACB Superintendent Bosco George set the trap. --- HERALD 3/06/06 page 1 --- - GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK -- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa - GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] STOCKMARKET: Sesa Goa: Buy
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/iw/2006/06/04/stories/2006060402030900.htm Sesa Goa: Buy Radhika Kamath Firm pricing outlook, likely improvement in met coke division, strong operational and financial contours and attractive valuations offer scope for capital appreciation. China's demand for steel to fuel iron ore exports by Sesa Goa. Firm pricing environment for iron ore, improving outlook for met coke and pig iron, strong operational and financial contours and attractive valuations make the Sesa Goa stock an attractive investment candidate. Business Line has buy recommendations outstanding on the stock at prices between Rs 375 and Rs 800, the latest being in June 2005. The stock, after touching its historic high of Rs 1,613.7 in early May, has corrected by about 25 per cent since. It is trading at a price-to-earnings multiple of about six times its likely FY-07 earnings. We maintain our positive stance on the stock and recommend fresh exposures with one/two-year perspective. Prime beneficiary Recent negotiations between global iron ore miners and steelmakers in Europe and Japan have resulted in a 19 per cent Year-on-Year rise in the price of contracted iron ore. However, China, the largest importer of iron ore, is yet to accept the price hike. Even if the Chinese steelmakers manage to negotiate a lower price, we believe the prices are still going to be higher by 10-15 per cent from the FY-05 level. CVRD, BHP Billiton and Rio Tinto, the three global mining giants which account for over 70 per cent of the global sea-borne trade in iron ore, have announced investment plans of about $2.5 billion for increasing their mining capacity. The global iron ore market, is, however expected to remain in deficit the next couple of years, as the new mines are likely to begin production only in 2008-09. Sesa Goa, India's largest exporter of iron ore in the private sector, will be the prime beneficiary of the price hike, as this is likely to have a direct impact on its bottomline. About 40 per cent of Sesa's iron ore sales volumes in FY-07 is likely to be at higher prices, resulting in higher realisations. Despite repeated attempts by the Chinese Government to check iron-ore import — China accounted for about 60 per cent of global sea-borne iron ore imports in FY-06 — they are expected to rise owing to shortage of superior quality ore in China and growing demand from the steelmakers. This lends an encouraging outlook for Sesa's business as China accounts for over 55 per cent of its sales volume followed by Europe and Japan with shares of 16 per cent and 11 per cent respectively. PROSPECTS FOR Met coke The metallurgical coke division, which has been a drag on Sesa's profitability over the last 12-16 months, is likely to see an improvement in performance. International coke prices, after touching historic high of about $420 a tonne in 2004, have corrected considerably since then. Currently at about $120 a tonne, they appear to have bottomed out. However, prices have gained by $20-30 per tonne over the last month and are likely to stabilise at these levels. On the other hand, prices of coking coal (primary raw material for making coke) are showing signs of softening after remaining firm over the last one year. This is indicated from the recent negotiations between Nippon Steel of Japan and BHP Billiton; long-term prices were contracted 8 per cent lower than the FY-06 level. Sesa is likely to benefit from this development as it sells coke in the spot market and purchases coking coal through long-term contracts. We take a positive view of the pig iron business on the back of revival in demand and the improvement in prices the last two months. The proposed merger of Sesa Industries (Sesa Goa's 88.25 per cent subsidiary that manufactures and sells pig iron) would be accretive to the per share earnings. Firm prices and a healthy rise in volumes — the pace is likely to be moderate compared to those of the past two years — are also likely to bolster revenues and improve margins. The company has been able to maintain its operating profit margins above 45 per cent over the last three-four years. Sesa Goa's investments in wagons to lower logistics costs and the imminent completion of a railway line that would provide a better link to the Paradip port in Orissa are also likely to improve profitability levels. As also the increase in the proportion of ore exports from
[Goanet] UAE Indian Expat Football League
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- DIVAR EXPAT LEAGUE CHAMPIONS ZUARI FC LIFT PLATE TROPHY Vaxim Divar led by versatile Russel Rodrigues emerged champions in the First UAE Indian Expat Football League organized by Gulf International Promotions. In an exciting final played at the Iranian Stadium Dubai, in front of a large crowd Divar defeated a strong Copy Corner Sporting by six goals to four in a penalty shoot out. Both the teams were locked 1-1 at the end of normal time and extra time failed to produce a goal. In a fast paced game both teams went all out for victory with Russel Rodrigues and Orlando Viegas missing sitters for the Divar team. Copy Corner had their own share of spoils when Manoj G and Rasheed has near misses. Divar took the lead in the seventeenth minute when Russel Rodrigues past the Copy Corner Keeper Thomas. Copy Corner were back on level terms thirty seconds later when a quick restart of the game when a through ball from Dileep found Subair in the penalty area and he mad no mistake to put the game on level terms. There was no further scoring and the result has to be resolved by the tie breaker. Divar hero was their Goalkeeper Jonas Dsouza who made two brilliant saves to deny Rasheed and Dileep. Subair , Manoj G, and Basheer K managed to score from the spot. Divar players made no mistake with their kicks with Randel Pereira, Russel Rodrigues, Creighton Travasso, Ashok S, Russel Rosario and Orlando Viegas burying the ball into the net to earn a well deserved victory and lift the handsome winners trophy. Earlier in the quarter finals of the main tournament Siolim United got the better of Varca FC by one goal to nil in extra time. Shriram Vernekar scored the all important goal. In the second quarter final Divar managed to defeat a determined Cansaulim by a lone Derrick DSouza goal. Benit DSouza and Navel Pereira played well for Cansaulim. In the third quarter final Copy Corner Sporting had to pull out all stops to defeat Zyco Dubai FC by one goal to nil. Subair made no mistake from close range when put through by Basheer. K K Riyaz and Baby Job had a good game for Zyco Dubai. In the last quarter finals of the main event Young St Marys boys led by the only female manager Candida K scored to quick goals through Wilton Goes to march into the semi final against Vaxim Divar. In the first semi final Copy Corner had to wait until extra time before scoring a late winner against a strong Siolim United FC. Striker Rasheed proved to be the hero with the match winner three minutes before the end of extra time. The second Semi Final saw experience against youth. Vaxim Divar had to use all their experience before overcoming St Marys boys by two goals to nil. Randell Pereira and Derrick Dsouza ensured the victory for the Divar team. Siolim United had the consolation of winning the third place play off defeating St Marys Boys by two goals to nil. John Fernandes and Shriram vernekar scored for the winners. The tournament lived up to its billing as an exciting one when the Plate event was just as exciting as the main event. Zuari FC led by Savio Cardozo lifted the plate trophy defeating St Anthonys 6-5 via the penalty shoot out. In an exciting game Zuari and St Anthony were locked in a one all draw despite extra time. Julius Noronha who had a good tournament gave Zuari the lead in the eighth minute only to see Darryl Carvalho equalize from close range. Both teams went in search of the equalizer but failed to do so. In the penalty shoot out Lynton DSouza, Savio Cardozo, Joaquim Fernandes, Godfrey Almeida and Ashton DSouza made no mistake from the spot. Kevin Fernandes, Oswald Fernandes, Darryl Rasquinha and Darryl Carvalho scored their efforts while Sandy Fernandes shot wide. In the quarter finals of the plate event SFX Old Goa did not turn up for their game against Almoe Fc, Dragon All Starz went down to Emirates Flight Catering by two goals to nil courtesy Caitan Fernandes and Thomas Dias. Zuari had to thank Lynton DSouza, Oswald Fernandes, Karlton for their three nil victory over Desert Cubs. St Anthonys had to resort to penalties before overcoming Phoenix Loutolim by four goals to three. Kevin Fernandes, Oswald Fernandes, Darryl Carvalho and Darryl Rasquinha scored for St Anthony while Lucas Fernandes, Baptist DSouza and Lawrie Gonsalves scored for Loutolim with Moses and Benjamin missing from the spot. In the first semi final Zuari
[Goanet] 7 illegal kiosks cleared at GMC
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=060322 7 illegal kiosks cleared at GMC NT Staff Reporter Panaji, June 2: The demolition squad of the Tiswadi sub-divisional magistrate�s office here today removed several unauthorised kiosks on government land located at the periphery of the Goa Medical College and Hospital, Bambolim. The removal of seven kiosks was effected after the SDM, Mr Agnelo A J Fernandes, received a written communication from the GMC authorities complaining about the nuisance caused by the kiosks and the anti-social elements, who frequented them late in the evening. The GMC authorities had also complained about the �eve teasing� by the drivers of the taxis which are parked in the GMC complex and have sought their removal too. Meanwhile, sources in the government said that drive against the taxi owners at the GMC complex would be initiated soon and that the taxis would be allowed to be parked on the levelled ground outside the complex. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England Comment: An excellent start, now other illegal kiosks should be targeted! _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Martin’s Corner finds mention in From mer’s Guide
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=060323 Martin's Corner finds mention in Frommer's Guide by Aditya Anand After retiring from the Mormugao Port Trust in 1989, the late Martin Pereira of Betalbatim did not have much to do and hence on his wife's suggestion, Ms Carafina Pereira, set up a small joint selling delicious Goan fast-food like sausage bread, sorpotel and other beef and pork delicacies. They named it Martin's Corner. Today Martin's Corner needs no formal introduction. It is run by Ms Carafina and she is ably assisted by her sons, Mr Pobre and Mr Bonny and also by her third son, Mr Jose working for Carnival Cruise Lines. The joint at Betalbatim has a full-fledged kitchen dishing out Goan, Indian, Chinese and a bit of continental cuisine as well. So also, Martin's Corner has moved from 16 covers in 1989 to servicing 30 covers today. The two staff that the late Martin employed have since made way for another expert 35 staff members. Its popularity can be gauged from the reviews in most up-market and elite travel magazines and websites. It also finds mention in Frommer's Guide, the well-known international travel guide.The secret behind the joint's success is the masala used in the cooking. For 17 years, Ms Carafina has been preparing the spices herself. Now 58, she still has her liking for cooking going strong, Carafina can still be seen in the kitchen personally supervising the cooking. Among diners that Martin's Corner has hosted include master blaster, Sachin Tendulkar who has since become a devout customer of the joint and had even gone to the extent of acknowledging that his hotel chain concept called Tendulkar's was in many a way influenced by Martin's Corner. Ms Carafina for a long time supplied masala to Tendulkar's after the former Indian skipper made a personal request. Tendulkar, a food buff also introduced the place to many others from the glamour and sports world. Sanjay Dutt, Hrithik and Suzanne Roshan, Rakesh Roshan, Aishwarya Rai, Abhishek Bachchan, Jaya Bachchan, Remo Fernandes, Mr Sharad Pawar, Madhuri Dixit, Ravi Shastri, John Abraham and Bipasha Basu form part of the long list narrated by Mr Bonny. Some Goans, including politicians are also regulars, he added. When we started out locals from the coastal belt right from Colva to Cavelossim and many more from Betalbatim itself frequented to taste the Goan fast-food prepared by mom. Today the improved changes still makes them visit thanks to the quality of food being maintained, said Mr Bonny, the youngest of the three brothers and a commerce graduate. The family continues to run the business on its own rather than employing professional help as most other restaurants do. Cooking apart, Pobre and I handle the other daily requirements of running restaurant, Mr Bonny confided. After the death of their father fours years ago, Mr Pobre and Mr Bonny still continue to handle accounts and other activities like shopping, while Mr Jose chips in with ideas gathered from his travel around the globe. From sorpotel bread savoured by the local clientele in 1989, Martin's Corner is today known for its speciality Goan cuisine comprising 'reicheido', butter garlic, 'caldin', and in Goan delights the Goan fish curry, 'vindaloo', 'xacuti', 'cafreal', 'ambot tik', 'balchao' and 'xec xec'. Seafood consists of the king crab, tiger prawns, pomfrets, king fish, snappers, squids, 'modso', pickled fish and shark (masala fried, butter garlic, grilled/tandoori, 'para') among others. The industry does not appreciate the government's so-called efforts in the tourism sector. Being a born tourist attraction people just keep coming to Goa. But as a restaurateur what benefits does the government extend to me, asked Mr Bonny pointing out to a power bill of Rs 30,000 that he has received. There is no regular power and water supply. And we end up spending more money on running the diesel generator and water through tanker supply, he said throwing up his hands in despair before warning that the government will have to act fast. Apart from seafood and Goan food that form the main essence of Martins Corner, the joint caters the diner with live music and Karaoke. The Karaoke concept at our place has grown along with Martin's Corner and all our visitors have enjoyed immensely, the brothers observed. Referring to a particular 'Go Goa 365 Days on a Holiday' advertisement, Mr Bonny said, Though the
[Goanet] ADC- June 3
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- 'Kanvllo bosunk ani talli moddunk ek zalem'Konkani Proverb The crow sits on the branch and the branch breaks at the same time by chance. Sometimes things happen so simultaneously that we consider one is the result of another. Edward Verdes Chinchinim/Mumbai/KSA _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Congratulations Balbir Singh-ji on your latest Award ! You Are The Best Ever !
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Congratulations Balbir Singh-ji on being accorded the prestigous honour of Best Sikh Player in Indian Hockey. That was an appropriate and well deserved award. (see Times of India article below) You are the undoubtedly the Best Hockey Ambassador we have ever had on and off the field as a hockey player, coach, manager, mentor, and role model to legions of hockey players worldwide. I was surprised that your contributions to Indian Hockey as Chief Coach and Manager of the only World Cup winning Indian Hockey Team (Kuala Lumpur - 1975) were not mentioned in the artiicle below. I am eagerly looking forward to your forthcoming book The Golden Yard Stick on Hockey Coaching. I strongly recommend that your previous inspiring biographical book The Golden Hatrick - My Hockey Days (1977) should be required reading for all Indian School Children. Congratulations Again ! Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz, Indian Harbour Beach, Florida. Honouring Sardars of Indian hockey TIMES NEWS NETWORK NEW DELHI, April 26: The Capital, on Wednesday, saw some of the biggest names in Indian hockey - from the legendary Balbir Singh (Senior) to Pargat Singh - come together under the same roof. The occasion? Selection of 10 best Sikh players who have played for the country. Balbir Singh (senior) was chosen the best among the lot by a panel headed by former Chief Justice of India, JS Verma and comprising former Olympians like Leslie Claudius. It was a rare sight. The players who created awe in the minds of the rivals on the field, and for decades lived in the hearts of the fans, enlivened the proceedings in the conference hall of a city hotel, recounting interesting tales of those golden days that have now been confined to history books. Balbir sounded very excited when he talked about his goals in the Helsinki Olympics, where India won the gold. Those were one of the best days of my life. It's a great honour to have played for my country and I am proud to have been chosen for this award from amongst some of the greatest players, said Balbir, who helped India win three Olympic gold medals in 1948, 1952 and 1956. Another top-ten player Pargat Singh went down the memory lane describing his moves during his magical display against Germany in a 1985 Champions Trophy league match where India came back from 1-5 down to draw the match 5-5. Of the goal he had scored, Pargat said: It was a lucky goal. But probably the most appealing words came from the sister of former forward Udham Singh, who while accepting the honour on the behalf of her late brother, asked the likes of Balbir Singh and Ajitpal Singh to work for hockey's cause. He (Udham) was a role model for Sansarpur hockey players. I still remember that whenever he went for practice Balbir, Ajitpal and Tarsem (Singh) would follow him. Now that both Balbir and Ajitpal have also been picked as top players, I would like to ask them to do something for hockey, she said. A noble thought indeed and the gesture was well appreciated by the audience, which included the likes of former IHF president Ashwini Kumar, mercurial striker Dhanraj Pillay, assistant coach of the national team Harendra Singh and Jagbir Singh. The top 10 Sikh players: Balbir Singh (Sr), Udham Singh, Surjit Sigh, Harbinder Singh, Prithpal Singh, Ajitpal Singh, Dharam Singh (Sr), Balbir Singh (Railways), Balbir Singh (Services) and Pargat Singh. b _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] re: immigration
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- There's been a lot of debate over immigration -- local and foreign. As the US is in the midst of a crisis and Canada under the Conservative Stephen Harper is also turning into anti-minority, immigration is come under fire from the right-wing forces. Europe too has seen its share of troubles. Though the US periodically breaks into mayhem over immigration, Canada and Australia see the issue to the forefront periodically. On the issue of a Toronto-based Tamil group banned for its alleged terrorist links by the Canadian government and the subsequest debate if the new government is anti-immigrant, here's one quote from a Canadian list. --Giacomo Cardinal Biffi, archbishop of Bologna, who created a stir on September 12, 2000, by writing that: The criteria for admitting immigrants can never be just economic. It is necessary to concern oneself seriously with saving the nation's own identity. Italy is not a deserted land, without history, without living and vital traditions, without an unmistakable cultural and spiritual physiognomy, to be populated indiscriminately, as if it were not a model legacy of humanism and culture that must not be allowed to disappear. -- I believe the bishop was talking of the period when the wave of new immigrants was threatening Italy. The quote's logic has been applied to keep out those immigrants who do not fall into the category of cultural ethos. Many in Goa feel that outsiders coming to settle in Goa do not fall into the Goan cultural and social mix. There's no doubt the indiscrimination on colour, race and ethnicity prevails subtly in Canada, the ethnics have made lot of progress. The battle for equality continues to be fought in the corridors of power and academia. Indo-Canadians have been one of the groups in the forefront of this struggle. To the new Conservative government's credit, a public enquiry has been ordered into the Air India crash. The ousted Liberals and before that the Mulroney government had not found it necessary to set up a commission. The Harpen government have may scored a major political point in gaining support from the Indo-Canadians, who form part of the minority community. Among the South Asians in Toronto, the Tamils (most of them from Sri Lanka) were close to overcoming the Sikhs in terms of population. eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: PROVIDE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE RATHER THAT RESERVATIONS
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Does poverty and caste really have such a strong congruence? What about a low cast person who has the means and a supposedly high cast person who does not? Why not simplify the whole process and base aid solely on financial need? Why do we need to add a dependent variable (or mathematically speaking a non orthogonal variable) into this argument? Stated in other words, the cast factor is built into the financial need variable. Marlon --- Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not? I fail to understand the logic of this BJP-inspired argument. When poverty and caste has such a close congruence in our part of the world, why can't caste be used as the determining factor? The equivalent of this argument would be: arguments in court should be allowed only to those who have a logical mind, but should never be restricted to a profession (e.g. lawyers)! _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Galileo, Dan Brown and The Church
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Bosco, It looks like you only disagreed with the tone of my message, and not my actual message. I used the word fiction while you used myths to refer to aspects of the bible. Fundamentally, we agree that much of the content in the Bible is non factual, cannot be verified or cannot be explained by any known laws of nature. While I understand your need to factor in the sensitivies of christians who may be offended by my frank statements, I feel it is unfair to compare my views to the extremely hostile views expressed by some fundamentalist christians against hindus and muslims on this forum. Given the predominence of Catholic Goans on this list, there is a large bank of people who will mount a vigorous defence of their religion if it is attacked. Unfortunately, when individuals make insensitive and bigoted comments against hindus and muslims on this forum, one is often met with silence. My desire is to defend the under-represented on this forum. My views are definately not hostile to Christianity. People should be free to worship or believe in any thing they wish, and I have strongly defended the right of christians in India to prostelize without any restrictions or government inteference. The rather extreme and narrow minded response by so many Indian Christians to this movie is quite stunning. I'm sure people have received all kinds of christian spam from their older friends and relatives urging them to fight/boycott this evil movie. Pretty humorous, but also pretty sad. To me it is not just a religious issue, but also highlights a clear generation gap. Marlon --- Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cornel / Marlon, This is a belated response. My position was against the dismissive stance Marlon took, of The Holy Book, due to the sensitivies of fellow Goanetters. Marlon's position was the other end of the spectrum as compared to Nasci who has positioned himself like a Chistian supremacist _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] RE: The Da Vince Code (Hightlights)- The Mind only .....
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Saw the film yesterday and found it drab in content. However, the direction was superb. Ron Howard, the director, is able to play with a difficult subject matter. There was laughter when the historian Sir Leigh Teabing says to Audrey Tautou that she is the last living descendant of Jesus. I would term it as black humour. As critics have noted, Tom Hanks plays a lifeless Harvard Prof. Robert Langdon. He seems a confused man and moves about aimlessly throughout the movie. That the heroine is indeed the Holy Grail is another comic element. She at last finds her home in a priory (a place where missionaries live) where the story tells us she really belongs. The Opus Dei undertone are also comical in part. The monk is becomes a murderer and the Archbiship Aringorosa are whacky characters. The explanation of the Last Supper with Mary Magdalene next to Jesus and the theory that she was pregnant and migrated to France seems ridiculous. Since I haven't read the book, I am not sure how much it follows the book. The movie cannot be considered as a serious film and, in fact, seems a partial parody on the Church. The superfluous mixes with fantasy and fiction overides truth. It's a curious film that one should watch for what it tries to define, among other things, that Jesus was human. A school of thought on Jesus's humanity is very much in existence. So, no surprise here. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] Reminder on morality and social conscience
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- This is to remind ourselves that the notion that a moral compass or social conscience is dependent on adherence to some form of ideology, religion or atheistic belief system, has been thoroughly discredited in this and other Goan forums. It has also been shown that no religion, ideology or atheistic belief system has ever had a rock-solid moral compass. Cheers, Santosh --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will have far more respect for your side of the spectrum when you can show me long-standing and world-wide atheist-supported schools, hospitals, nursing homes, homes for the aged, orphanages and other charitable organizations, as well as a rock solid moral compass going back thousands of years that no one with even half a brain can misunderstand. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] RE: In small Goa ...
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Big developmental projects constantly attract local protest, since scenic placid self contained villages react to ceding public and private farm and and green areas to urbanisation and commercial activity, ...In the political race to demonstrate development milestones before an upcoming election, the Congress party sees itself as a victim, paying the price for being more democratic and therefore a soft target for protestors. Activists only come out of the woodwork when the Congress is in power says Congress MLA Jeetendra Deshprabhu, referring to the calm that previous regimes enjoyed. 1. It does seem to be true that in Goa a village perspective tends to prevail over even that of a unified state. The challenge to the state leadership is to truly understand the state's needs (including in the national context) and then try to persuade the affected people who may have to sacrifice in the larger interest of the community. Hopefully, over time every one will get to bear their own fair share of the burden and wont have reason to feel they are beng singled out. 2. I also think the present government is taking the easy way out by saying they are a soft target for protesters because they are more democratic. I dont know how previous regimes dealt with protesters, but the present one was definitely less than transparent and perhaps even mendacious about Mopa airport project, a capstone development project for the state if ever there was one. P.S. I checked the conversion table and found 10,000 sq m is only 2.5 acres. How is this golf course a big development project? A mountain out of a mole hill? _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] outstanding goan Ralph Silva
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Goanetters, Young Ralph Silva from Vasco, son of the late Willy and Maria Silva, has secured 25th rank in the All India IIT entrance exam. This is possibly the highest rank ever achieved by any Goan ever, in this tough exam. The achievement is all the more outstanding because about 300, 000 people took the exam this year. Ralph intends opting for Engineering Physics in IIT Bombay. Well done Ralph! You are destined for great things. regards, Gilbert Menezes. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] Past BBC programmes on Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Perhaps Mario should read American history books! The US backed Portugal and condemned the Indian invasion/liberation of Goa. The USSR and China supported India. Looks like Mario has officially ackowledged his links to the leftist brigade! The issue was closed when Portugal later recognized India's annexation of Goa. Marlon --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario responds: Typical Paulo... :-)) You are obviously reading Portuguese history books, my friend. That's not what MY history books say :-)) Believe me, as a nationalist whose family were warned to stay away from Goa by the dictatorial Portuguese colonialists, I liked the events of December 18, 1961, a lot! We celebrated with the little fenny we had left. We had no authentic cheurisam made from Goa's live sanitation system left :-)) We had no parra left. Finally, we could go to Goa, experience again a place caught in a time-warp, bathe in well water drawn fresh, read by candlelight, walk the rutted, dusty red roads, pluck cajus and mangos off the trees, and replenish our stocks of Goan delicacies and refill our garafaos :-)) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Fw: OFIICE OF PROFIT
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- - Original Message - From: goasuraj To: CHIEF ELECTION COMMISSIONER Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; PRESIDENT OF INDIA Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:54 AM Subject: OFIICE OF PROFIT BY REGISTERED-AD Ref: GSRP/CEC/SG/OOP/06/06 Date: June 1, 2006 To,The Chief Election Commissioner,Election Commission Of India,Nirvachan Sadan,Ashoka Road,New-Delhi - 110 001. Sir, Re: OFFICES OF PROFIT and RESONS FOR MS. SONIA GHANDIS RESIGNATION AS MP: In the aftermath of the President of India returning the (Prevention of Disqualification) Amendment Bill 2006 back to the Parliament for serious consideration, the main reason being that the Bill has sought to retrospectively save chairpersons occupying Offices of Profits from disqualification in a manner of putting dust in the eyes of better knowing citizens of India, the Goa Su-Raj Party, through this communication seeks answers from your esteemed office to the following pertinent questions: What is the reason, as given to the EC, for Ms. Sonia Gandhis resignation from the Parliament as its elected and running MP? On what grounds did the Election Commission allow Ms. Sonia Gandhi to seek re-election from the same constituency from which she has resigned of her own volition? How much did the re-election of Ms. Sonia Gandhi cost the national exchequer and the reason why a citizen tax payer should pay for such unwarranted expenditure? Did Ms Sonia Gandhi occupy the Office of Profit as the Chairperson of the National Advisory Council, and, if she did not resign and re-contest, she would have attracted disqualification as the MP? By allowing Ms. Gandhi to re-contest from the same constituency from which she resigned, did not the Election Commission play a dubious role to clear her path to go back to the Parliament and seek to regularize/amend laws and rules which would disqualify herself as well as other members of the august Parliament even retrospectively? Is this resign and re-contest the same seat not setting a dangerous precedent for the nation? Is not the Election Commission of India a party to this charade where the national Parliament is seen as being used by the honourable elected MPs to defraud the tax-paying citizens of this country? We shall be highly obliged if you will satisfy us on the above queries. Your good response or the lack of it shall be the deciding factor for this Registered Political Party to take this matter to the Courts of Law, even up to Supreme Court of India, to get justice for ordinary tax-paying citizens who seem to be paying through their noses for acts of commission and omission by our elected honourable Members of Parliament and State Legislatures with the active collusion from autonomous institutions such as the Election Commission of India. Further, so that your good office may take note of our serious intentions vis a vis Offices of Profit we append herewith the Article 38 of our Partys Constitution which is registered with your good office where we have endeavoured to completely eliminate the role of Offices of Profit nearly six years ago when this Party was formed and seeing to it that future amendments to dilute the founding intensions are sealed in Article 41 with a rider HOWEVER ARTICLE NUMBERS 03, 08(a), 12, 32, 34, 36, 37, 38, 39 and 40 SHALL NOT BE AMENDED AFTER THE REGISTRATION OF THE CONSTITUTION WITH THE ELECTION COMMISSION. Article 38: APPOINTMENTS OF CHAIRPERSONS DIRECTORS OF GOVT. CORPORATIONS INSTITUTIONS: The members of the Party who are elected to the Legislative Assembly as MLAs and who are not included in the Cabinet shall be ineligible to be appointed as chairpersons and/or directors of government corporations and institutions. We shall anxiously await your positive response. Always in the service of the Nation, Yours faithfully,for Goa Su-Raj Party Sd/- (Dr. N.S. Dumo)PRESIDENT Copy to: The President of India, Rashtrapati Bhavan, New Delhi.Copy to: PMO, New Delhi. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Shantaram Naik, Developmental Projects Enemies of the State
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- June 1, 2006 The Editor, Herald, Panaji, Goa Sir, While Shantaram Naik has warned Goans not to tolerate at any cost those opposing projects for getting pecuniary or political advantage, (Herald, May 31, 2006), he has alas, he has alas, not seen fit to enlighten the people of Goa as to how they are to judge if a person's opposition to developmental projects is based on pecuniary gain or political advantage. It is imperative that developmental projects need to be publicly debated and examined threadbare before being executed after much serious thought and consideration, taking differing viewpoints into account, since Goa is an extremely small state with limited land holdings and ill conceived development can have irrevocable and disastrous consequences for our little state. As part of the Congress Party, Shantaram Naik probably views the Congress Government's developmental works through rose tinted glasses. People of course, have a different perspective. Most of those who have been on the receiving end of the governments grandiose developmental works, allege that these projects are undertaken by the Government, precisely for either pecuniary gain or political mileage - the very same motives that Shantaram Naik attributes to the opponents of developmental works. And in the words of Shantaram Naik, should we dub the Government as an enemy of the state for the disaster their so called developmental projects have wreaked on the local populace? The twenty point programme initiated by the Congress Party is a prime example of developmental work coldbloodedly conceived for political mileage. If Shantaram Naik really seeks to undertand the consequences of his Party's developmental plans, then should visit the twenty point programme at Nagoa Salcete, to see for himself how land which was taken from Goans is now fully in the hands of rich and well to do migrants in total violation of conditions on which it was allocated in the first place, with no corrective action or accountability from the enforcing authorities over the years. Once upon a time, the residents of the villages surrounding the Verna Industrial Estate lived in a pristine environment, enjoying abundant water sourced from their perennial wells. Then came the development of the Verna Industrial Estate, also initiated by Shantaram Naik's esteemed Congress party, which we were told we should welcome, as it would provide employment to locals, just as Shantaram Naik today tells us we should welcome the development of the National Highway from Patradevi to Polem. The stark reality however, is that today, we still have no employment for locals, although the lands have been forcibly taken over from them. Instead, the villagers have to tolerate an unending influx of migrant labour irreversibly changing their demography and utilising the once unblemished environment as a public toilet. Since practically every industry has arbitarily sunk borewells in the absence of provision of adequate water supply as promised by the Government, villagers are now contending with dry wells, for the first time ever, not to mention polluted ground water. This developmental project was apparently conceptualised by Shantaram Naik's Congress Government without any thought as to where industrial waste would be dumped and whether the residents would appreciate the ugly urbanisation of their villages. That is why we are now seeing an increase in protests by cynical and distrustful Goans wherever the Government moots one of its so called developmental plans. Therefore, in the light of past experience, all of us, including Shantaram Naik, need to seriously ponder over the issue of who is the actual enemy of the state. Is it the Government who initiates and implements ill conceived development or the party/individual who sticks his neck out and risks going against the establishment to question and raise relevant objections, which I may point out, the Government has the choice to publicly refute if it has a valid response. But then, Shantaram Naik can hardly be expected to look upon pecuniary gain involved with development with an unbiased eye, since it is indisputably his Congress Party that boasts, tolerates and in fact nurtures the largest number of inexplicable rags to riches stories amongst its members. Diana Pinto _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list
[Goanet] Woman priest says Mass
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Hi Mario, I am sure you would not mind / want to discriminate / prevent other card carrying atheists / agnostics from answering the second paragraph of your well written post (see below). In my communications with this group, they are great in articulating the limitations of other's beliefs. Yet when it comes to explaining their own beliefs and actions they appear tongue-tied. I'd welcome / encourage them to have a Progressive Igroz with a woman pope. They even have a good candidate for the job. And very articulate members on this forum (don’t have to go far) who could hold other high offices. Their religion could expound on multiple spouses, lax moral, social and legal codes etc etc. So what is holding them back? Their joy of torturing the rest of us perhaps.:=)) The next demographic study of Goans can even have a category of Goan atheists/agnostics. This in addition to the current Hindus, Catholics and Muslims. I am sure the ever-generous Khoro Niz Goenkars will make room for these bhaile. Kind Regards, GL From: Mario Goveia As an atheist convert and evangelist with the typical hubris and what can I get away with today moral compass, it does not surprise me at all that you are deliberately misconstruing my posts, because I have done anything but blindly follow the shephard. I will have far more respect when you can show me long-standing and world-wide atheist-supported schools, hospitals, nursing homes, homes for the aged, orphanages and other charitable organizations, as well as a rock solid moral compass going back thousands of years that no one with even half a brain can misunderstand. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is exactly where the church wants you with the rest of the sheep who keep their heads down grazing on the verbiage it provides without questioning or looking up except to follow directions from the shepherd. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goa importing poverty/response to Elisabeth
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- --- Elisabeth Carvalho wrote: I too am a free-market proponent and as such believe that micro-managing economies is an exercise in futility. However, we've learnt through history free-markets cannot be allowed to reign without a social conscience. If this persists, what we get are neo-feudal societies, where one group grows more powerful at the expense of another. Mario replies: Where did you get the notion that you were a free-market proponent? The However proves that you are not, by definition. Who gets to decide whose social conscience is the correct one? Is the notion of a social conscience a case of providing good intentions or producing good results? Free market economies provide more wealth for more people that any other alternative that has been tried. Elisabeth writes: We can argue the economics of this at length, and we won't arrive at any conclusion. Mario replies: No need to argue. Just look at the record. The facts are there for all to see. India in economics, before liberalization, and after. China in economics, likewise. The old Soviet Union countries, before and after. The stagnant major European countries like France and Germany with social consciences. Practically all the African countries, which have their own version of a social conscience, except South Africa. Elisabeth writes: I'd like to invite debate on the social impact of such mass migration. No doubt, it will change the demographics of Goa. Is such a change welcome? Is it accepted because there is nothing to be done. Mario responds: Again, who gets to decide whether freely induced mass migration desirable or not, or is welcome or not? Who gets to decide what, if anything, should be done about any social and economic changes taking place? We saw from Vivian's poignant personal experience, which is duplicated by every small business in Goa, that he would have either paid a huge price, or been unable to get his work done had he insisted in using Goan Konkani-speaking labor. Had he been a business he would have gone under. What kind of social conscience would want that across a whole state? Elisabeth writes: We have to learn lessons from Mumbai and Bangalore, where Marathas and Kannadigas are now in the minority, a small voice unheard in their own politics. Mumbai as we all know is a city drowning in urban poverty despite being the commercial capital of India. Mario observes: The lessons are what you choose to see. What's wrong with Marathas and Kannadigas being in the minority in Mumbai or Bangalore? Everyone who lives in Mumbai is there by choice. Drowning in poverty? With electrified jhopdis, refrigerators, TV sets, PC's, mobile phones. Poverty, compared to what? Elisabeth writes: Is this what we want for Goa? Or is there a way to systematically go about insisting on certain things; like proper housing for migrants instead of sprawling slums on communidade land, insist that they learn Konkanni as their language, insist that their children are schooled and not roaming the streets as beggars and urchins plying services for pedophiles, insist that the culture poverty that they bring with them is reconditioned. These are the hard questions for Goans living in Goa to answer. Mario replies: Elisabeth, with so many insists you have clearly answered my question above about who knows what's good for everyone else, even better than they do :-)) When you return to India, I suggest you run for a seat in the Goa government. What you have outlined above is the exact opposite of a free-market proponent who would insist that market forces, which means millions of buyers and sellers, each with their own enlightened self-interest and social conscience, freely exchanging goods and services at prices acceptable to them, get to decide, helped by freely elected governments maintaining the infrastructure, security and safety, and a fairly enforced legal system arbitrating disputes. Elisabeth writes: If we don't address these issues now, what we will have is a sort of social apartheid. Two societies living in parallel worlds. And Goa is not immune to becoming just another Soweto. Mario replies: Soweto was a by-product of a heinous and abominable system of institutionalized racism and discrimination. India has a secular population that could not even tolerate the BJP. India has already taken the first step in starting
[Goanet] Foreigners on tourist visas banned from buying land ( Open Reply)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- REPLY: Dear Goan, if out side People buy our land n what is our Goan Future r we doing England, Cananda or Europe country in Goa. we strong object BAN Foreigners in Goa BAN Building in Goa Ban all NON GOan throw out of Goan if our Pigs Ministers Can't do this change the Ministers name n BAN them in Goa. Bring down our LATE Jack Sequeira Soul to Save three Word Goa. their Cannot even built one Statu (idol)of our Late Jack Sequeira. As we Gulf Goan already is back to Goa as we are BAN to Work in GULF. More in Muscat.so Better Save MY GOA, Stephen fernandes Muscat Foreigners on tourist visas banned from buying land They cant run businesses in Goa either BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, JUNE 1 Taking cognizance of foreigners buying property and running businesses in Goa, Chief Minister Pratapsing Rane on Thursday made it clear that foreigners who come on tourist visas can neither buy land nor run business concerns in the State and that necessary action would be initiated. Instructions have been issued to Sub-Registrars to route all files pertaining to registration of properties through the Home Department for verification. Mr Rane said if properties are found to have been bought in violation of the law of the land, they would vest in the custody of the Government. Mr Rane also attributed foreign tourists buying properties to unscrupulous elements who he said were misguiding foreigners on purchase of immoveable properties. The Government, he said, would come out with publicity material informing foreigners not to get misguided by these elements. Admitting that cases of foreign tourists buying properties has come to the knowledge of the Government Mr Rane said foreigners who have business visas and clearances from Reserve Bank of India (RBI) can undertake such activities. Mr Rane told Herald that the Government would probe all aspects including the role of touts, middlemen and legal advisors. Action will be taken against all concerned, he added. Taking serious view of newspaper reports and voices of concern expressed on the issue, the chief minister held a high-level meeting to discuss the matter. Chief Secretary J P Singh, Development Commissioner J K Dadoo, Advocate General Subodh Kantak, Law Secretary, Revenue Secretary and DIG Ujjwal Mishra were among those present for the meeting, sources said. The chief minister also instructed the Police Department to clamp down on businesses being run by foreigners without valid licences. Until now, the Government has been going soft on foreign tourists carrying out business activities. Several restaurants and beach shacks are run by foreign tourists during the tourist season between October and April. As reported in the Herald earlier, some employees of the Sub-Registrars office in connivance with some lawyers or middlemen help foreigners acquire property sale deeds registered where no verification of the conditions laid down in the Foreign Exchange Management Act (FEMA) is carried out by the Law Department. Recently, the Nationalist Youth Congress had also raised the issue with various Government authorities. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The Judas Gospel Huna Phenomenon.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- --- Francis Rodrigues wrote: OK, I've done lots of strange un-goan things ! Big deal. Mario wants to know more ! Mario responds: I have no idea what an un-goan thing is, but just to relieve Francis and his complex personality of his delusion of intellectual superiority, I really didn't want to know anything about this incredible search for eternal youth and a sinless, spoon-bending nirvana on earth, though it does explain some of the other, more earthy, tendencies that we have seen from him on Goanet :-)) I did remind him of his threat to regale us with tales of 40 years of globe trotting and his expertise in the Gospel of Judas, which, as we all know, has been excluded from credible consideration by mainstream Christian scholars, along with the Gospel of Mary and other gospels. Whether he has done so, at least in this post, I will leave up to others. However, I am more than a little perplexed that the study of mental mastery under obscure Hawaian medicine men (?!) did not lead to a far more mature approach to life than are apparent in the deep-seated resentment and snide and transparent and totally unnecessary personal references to me in this and other posts, and long-standing grudges against other respected Goanetters who cannot even place him, which I will not go into here. My suggestion to Francis is to stop embarrassing himself by slipping in the snide and unnecessary references to me in unrelated posts, and to focus on his Aunty Ponty impersonations, which some on Goanet actually like :-)) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] What is a Portophile? Actually, just like a Lusophile:-))
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- --- Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Portophile has you confounded poor, otherwise sapient, Mario? Mario observes Alfred, You will pleased to know that my sapience is not only intact but now bolstered by my research :-)) However, where did you even get such an idea? Certainly not from my post. In fact, mostly because I took the time to research the issue, I am far more sapient on this subject than almost anyone else. Alfred writes: How aboot plain and simple: a lover of Porto a.k.a Oporto, the city on the banks of balmy Douro? Mario replies: Far too plain and simple. The word is Portophile, not Oportophile or PortVinhophile :-)) Alfred writes: If, along with a bottle of hock, you listen to those nostalgic lyrics As lendas do rio Douro... rest assured you will turn into such a Portophile. Mario replies: Alfred, I have been a Portophile almost all my life, ever since I learned that a village in Portugal had assumed my family name several hundred years ago, and has now grown into a decent sized city, and also learned that the Portuguese were color-blind when it came to people, which makes them unique, not only among Europeans but also among everyone else :-)) However, what may have confused you and led you to impressions that cannot be supported by facts is that my admiration and affection for the Portuguese people had an exception for the way in which the country conquered and colonized my ancestral homeland, until they were eased out by a stronger native force of my countrymen in 1961. Alfred writes: Alfred, a staunch phile of them both, the nectar, red white and perish the gout, as well as the town. Mario replies: All I can say to that is, Salud! _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] Respectfully ... (was) Woman priest says Mass (2)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Respect begets respect. Mario replies: That is precisely why your new convert lack of respect for religion begets lack of respect for your brand of atheist evangelism. Kevin writes: Why was Christian aid refused during the tsunami crisis? Mario asks: I don't know. Why? Kevin asks: For all your xapotam, there is hardly ever any 'religious' aid provided without strings attached. Mario replies: That is just flat out false. Kevin writes: In Ontario, the Catholics are hanging on to publicly funded religious schools even though majority of the students are from 'non-practicing' families to further their attempts at brainwashing the younger generations. Mario responds: This is what Jose calls bandollam. The Catholic schools cannot capriciously hang on to anything that is publicly funded. Who are you trying to brain wash? _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
