[Goanet] Important: Goanet Down time

[Herman Carneiro]

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Folks,

Goanet may be unavailable for the next couple of days. This includes all 
mailing lists and the website. We'll try to get everything up as soon as 
possible.

We'll keep you posted via email and via the website, when we have our mailing 
lists and website operational.

I apologize for any incovenience this may cause.

Best wishes,

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Re: [Goanet] Feast of St. Anthony.............. (plus a Konkani Hymn)

[Herman D'Souza]

BOU FEST SANT ANTONINCHEM TUMKAM SOGLEANC ANVDETAM

Do you know the other popular hymn of Saint Anthony in
Konkani?

SANT ANTONI BOKTA SANTA - it goes further but i
would like to know the words

regards
Herman


--- JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 13th June.
>   
>
>  
> 
> If you can't see the Image above, then click here..
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/165579912/
>  
> Happy Feast to you all.
>  
>  
> Saiba Sant Anton, aiz hea tujea festa disa, magtaum
> tujea lagim, gal mhunn tujem
> kurpechem bhesanv soglea amchea Goemkar
> bhavam-bhoinnicher. 
>  
> Orasao/Hymn
> We used to sing St. Anton (& SFX) hymns at our home
> almost every day after ‘teors’
> or Rosary with our mother, father, brothers and
> Sister, but now a days there is no
> ‘Ters’ nor ‘Aimori’ and Cable/TV to blame I
> suppose).
>  
> Here is the popular Konkani orasao (hymn) of St.
> Anthony.
> If you can, please sing with your family tonight
>  
>  
> Sant Antoni Bokta
> Firgueamche kuddichea
> Tujea livrar kheuta
> Minin Jesu Raza
>  
> Minin Jezu khellta munnon
> Nosa Senhorin ghatli dimi
> Orasao mental kori
> Bhoktu Sant Antoni
>  
> Doria munntea mazar
> Koslo zalo dunvor
> Padri eta kumvor
> Bhoktu Sant Antoni
>  
> Jeruzalea Xarantu
> Rogtamchio zalio zori
> Ochoriam kori
> Bhoktu Sant Antoni.
>  
> Davidanu Sangilem
> Salamavan sopon parkilem
> Ballok hantu kheutalem
> Bhocta Sant Antonichea
>  
> Xastro porgotta astana
> Magli noman mori
> Morti livrar keli
> Aplea bapaiveli
>  
> Mezu armar korun
> Furutu manddilem
> Melolem bhurgem tuvem
> Ochorian jivem kelem
>  
> Xinvteam mogureamcho
> Kelo eku pollu
> Milagrimcho bhoktu
> (Bhoktu) Sant Antoni
>  
> Harpam violam vazun
> Muzganim kelo Kantu
> Firgeamgelo Santu
> Bhoktu Sant Antoni
>  
> Sant Antoni bhokta
> Ochoream tujim tera (13)
> Choudavem kori bhokta
> Amchea papiamchea xara.
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[Goanet] Death announcement: Susan Pinto

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It is with deep sorrow we announce that Susan Pinto, cherished wife of 
Anthony Pinto and beloved mother of Leon, passed away at 7:40 PM, on Friday, 
June 2nd, 2006, after long illness courageously borne.




May her soul be escorted by hordes of angles to her Creator.



"To live in the hearts of those we love is not to die."


http://www.smpinto.info/index.htm



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Re: [Goanet] The next Gandhi: I'll make India better off than Britain

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ASK WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE COUNTRY

This is the thinking of the west 
and this is how we can surpass the best



--- Sachin Phadte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Very interesting article. However, only a statement
> of wish, there is no 
> mention about the programmes that Rahul has in mind.
> There is one statement 
> in the article that struck me most, which is as
> follows:
> 
> "Despite his dream of India surpassing the West we
> were travelling
> through poor, dusty farming villages so far
> untouched by India's economic 
> miracle."
> 
> So, without some solid ideas, it is difficult to
> make a judegement. I am 
> asking this question in the same manner in which I
> had asked about the 
> detailed posting of the rise of Babush on the
> political scene in Goa.
> 
> Sachin Phadte.
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[Goanet] RFI: Goan Organizations in New Yorks

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Folks,

Can anyone with information about Goan organizations in NY please get in touch 
with Fiona Figueiredo directly? Please see her email below.

It's much appreciated.

Best wishes,

-- 
Herman





- Forwarded message from Fiona Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:32:40 -0400
From: Fiona Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Fiona Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: Looking for information
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Herman:

Hope you are well.  I am trying to find out if there is a Goan association in 
Queens, NY through your Goanet organization.

I am involved in helping to organize the Potta Retreat in Boston and 
have been getting calls from New York.  A young Goan lady called today 
to register for the retreat and asked if there are any Goan groups she 
can connect with in NY.  Could you let me know what resources are 
available to find this out?

Thanks so much for your help,

Fiona


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[Goanet] Re: New Marine Lines.

[Herman D'Souza]

--
 Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of 
   Mapusa of the 1950s
  
  http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426  
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I remember the american library and of course liberty
cinema nirmala niketan, bombay hospital etc  I am born
and bred up in dhobitalao - Marine Lines - Dabul.  
Give me more info about the family / details of your
friend and let me try to recollect. maybe I may know
him by face rather than by name

regards
Herman

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Re: [Goanet] New Marine Lines.

[Herman D'Souza]

can u give me more precise info which place u talking
about.


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> replaced by office 
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[Goanet] Re: The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be Crucified Upside Down in Goa

[Herman D'Souza]

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SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE SAID, IF THE CRIMINALS TRIED AND
PROVEN GUILTY IN COURT, IN MY OPINION THEY SHOULD BE
HANGED. 

IF THIS LAW IS CARRIED ON STRICTLY IT WILL DETER
OTHERS NOT TO DO THE SAME CRIME OR MURDER.

ANYONE CAN BEAR 25 YEARS OR LIFE TERM JAIL PUNISHMENT
AS LONG AS THEY LIVE, HOWEVER NO ONE WANTS TO DIE
YOUNG ATLEAST.

DONT YOU AGREE?

[Goanet] Re: The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be Crucified Upside Down in Goa

[Herman D'Souza]

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I understand and agree that we can all get along.  
But can we get along with people who come in with
devilish intentions? 

in the 70s or 80s i remember in Goa, we could go out
with our doors open, just a dog to guard the house.
Try doing it now.  

I was very happy and proud that the Goan Police was
quick to nab the culprits, but if proven guilty, they
should be brought to extreme justice, not holding them
in prison at the cost of the state, for another 10-25
years before they get released again.  A
strong law and rule is required to ward off such
dubious characters, otherwise Goans peaceloving life
will be engulfed with problems 

regards
Herman




--- Marlon Menezes wrote:

> I would like to pay tribute to the exempleary
> courage
> exhibited by Heman and Como in pushing for the
> immediate execution of these alleged criminals. 

Re: [Goanet] The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be Crucified Upside Down in Goa

[Herman D'Souza]

I SUPPORT THAT. 

I THINK PEOPLE COME TO GOA AND ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF
THE OPENDOOR, GOOD HEARTED AND PEACELOVING GOANS. 

THE GOVERNMENT OF GOA TOGETHER WITH THE RESIDENTS OF
GOA HAVE TO LOOK MORE DEEPER IN THIS MATTER AND USE A
FIRM IRON HAND IN DEALING WITH SUCH PROBLEMS

I REGRET THE DEATH OF FR. EUSEBIO, ALTHOUGH HE MAY
HAVE FORGIVEN THE KILLERS. MAY HIS SOUL REST IN PEACE.

BUT MY OPINION IS A MURDERER SHOULD BE HANGED

HERMAN 


--- CARMO DCRUZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> 
> To avenge and prevent ghastly murders like that of
> Fr. Eusebio Ferrao in 
> Macazana, Salcette, Goa, I hereby urge the Congress
> Government of  Goa CM 
> Pratapsingh Rane and the leader of the opposition
> Manohar Parrikar to 
> declare that the perpetrators Amit Shukla and Manish
> Dhubey be arrested and 
> brought to Justice in Goa by widely televised
> "Public Stoning and 
> Cruxifiction Upside Down in the Margao Maidan" on
> Good Friday, 2006.
> 
> No long drawn out court cases for these murderers.
> If the Goa Police is not 
> capable of carrying out this punishment, may be they
> should seek the help of 
> the Government of Saudi Arabia.
> 
> Remember Mr. CM and Mr. ex-CM - "Justice Delayed is
> Justice Denied"
> 
> That will send a message loud and clear that the
> people of  Goa will not 
> tolerate any of the dacoities that are prevalent in
> other parts of India esp 
> UP, Bihar, etc. and we will have our own detterent
> system of justice. The 
> cruxifiction of these dacoits will also have other
> overtones and widespread 
> support of the Goan people.
> 
> That will also scare away and keep out dacoits from
> other parts of India 
> from coming to Goa and commiting dacoities and
> murders.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Carmo D'Cruz
> 
> 
> 
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[Goanet] Re: Danish cartoons & DA VINCI's Code

[Herman D'Souza]

Talking about Danish Cartoons -  DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT
IN SOME OF THE GULF STATES THEY TEAR THE BIBLE AND
HOLY PICTURES APART IF ONE IS CAUGHT AT THE AIRPORT
WITH IT - What do you think about this? Is this
respecting other religions?

Secondly why are the Christians quite about the book
of DA VINCI's CODE which will be made as a movie. Is
this book not going against Christianity?  

Re: [Goanet] RESIDENTIAL GOA

[Herman D'Souza]

Hello Helen

Reference to your email can you tell me what are the
chances of a person being hit by a car while walking
on a pavement?

There are chances but that may be either one in a
hundred or million. 

so same goes with snakes in Goa. I have lived in Goa
in the village and in a apartment in the city, before
coming to UK. I did see snakes, mongoose, monkeys, ant
eater, foxes, reptiles and various other animals, and
I enjoyed their sights.

But in the city you will not come across any such
animals cause they love to stay in their habitat only.

Hope this answers your query. I am sure you and your
husband will love Goa and its beautiful natural 
surroundings.  


Herman


--- Helen Lancaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> For some time now my hubby and I have thought about
> buying an apartment in Goa 
> and trying to move out there to live.
> 
> My main fear however is the snakes, scorpions, etc.
> I have one helluva phobia 
> about snakes. I have been told that snakes can come
> into your homes in the 
> monsoon season and if this is the case then our
> plans for a lovely future are 
> scuppered before we even start.
> 
> I know this could be true about rural Goa but could
> you please give me an 
> honest answer to this.
> 
> If we had an apartment in the residential area, ie
> where the shops, etc are, 
> and didn't stay on the ground floor, what would be
> the chances of us 
> encountering snakes in our home or on the main
> streets.
> 
> We have been on holiday to Goa many times and
> luckily, so far, only snakes I 
> saw were with snake charmers so I could give them a
> very wide berth.
> 
> I would dearly love an honest answer to this query
> and would very much 
> appreciate it.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Yours sincerely
> Helen Lancaster
> 
> 




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Re: [Goanet] sale of Goan treasures

[Herman D'Souza]

hello mabel

are u from uk? which part?

I am a goan just moved into uk

regards
Herman
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I would like to thank Mr. de Malar for his article
> on the importance of keeping
> Goan art and artefacts in Goa for our future
> generations. It is so appalling
> that these 'treasures' are not protected and
> safeguarded in the country.
> The government and churches have to take
> responsibility for this and educate
> the people about the significance of all historic
> and artistic objects. Mabel
> Santos
> 
> 
>
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[Goanet] Season's greetings

[Herman Carneiro]

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Dear Goanetters,

On behalf of the Goanet admin and volunteers, I like to wish you and yours a 
joyous and happy Christmas and a prosperous new year!

We'd like to thank you for your continued support. And, we hope that you will 
continue to support us well into the future.

This year we'd like you to think of Goanet at Christmas. Here are a few ideas 
of ways you can give to Goanet:

1. Make a donation by using the PayPal link at http://www.goanet.org/.  Goanet 
is a volunteer-driven non-profit organization. All the money donated goes 
towards maintaining the network and running community building projects.

2. Send us 10 email addresses of friends and family. We'll make contact and 
send an introductory message to these people asking permission to subscribe 
them to Goanet. We won't subscribe anyone with first getting their permission.

3. Link to us from your website. It's simple, just add a link to 
http://www.goanet.org

4. Play a part in running Goanet and volunteer with the Goanet volunteers.

If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to email at 
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Thank you, once again, for your support. And, we wish you and yours families 
the very best for 2006.

Best wishes,

-- 
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[Goanet] Re: Feast of St. Francis Xavier

[Herman D'Souza]

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VIVA GOA

HERMAN & FAMILY

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[Goanet] Re: on mixed marriages and short sightedness

[Herman D'Souza]

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reading your mail i was flabbergasted. what high (mis)-logic and diction 
(although mispelt) - it went above my understanding

in simple words please read Fr. Anthonys letter to Mid day

as i said in my earlier mail we can write a lot of things and blame the 
priests by sitting in our comfortable homes with our families.




--- ryan  figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i have been following the mixed marriages thingy
> closely for a couple of weeks now and i just had to comment...

[Goanet] Women empowerment projects

[Herman Carneiro]

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Dear Goanetters,

It gives me great pleasure to announce that Goanet is starting a women's 
support group. As you can imagine it's going to be hard to establish a network 
to support women from scratch. But, we're dedicated to trying our best to 
succeed.

We have a new volunteer who will oversee these projects. Please join me in 
welcoming Meera Noronha to the fold. Meera lives in Kanpur, Uttarpradesh. She 
works with special children in the Spastics Centre.  She is also involved in
different local social organizations.You can reach Meera at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To start, we thought that we'd build up a database of organizations which help 
abused women. The database will include organizations worldwide so that abused 
women anywhere can find resources for help closeby.

We'd like to request that all those already involved in women's groups to 
please respond with details of your organisation. Please let us know where you 
are located and what you do to empower women. We'd also like to invite others 
to volunteer on this project, especially counsellors. In time, perhaps we 
could 
provide some counselling services, anonymous or otherwise, or merely be a 
point 
of contact to point women in right direction to get help.

Furthermore, if the women on this forum are interested, we'll provide 
you with a women's only mailing list. This forum would encourage women to 
discuss issues and help support the women empowerment projects that we 
undertake.

If you have any ideas on how we can go about setting up projects to help women 
and empower them, please send us your suggestions. Better still, we'd like to 
encourage you to volunteer to help us establish some worthwhile services. For 
those involved in any women's groups locally, please respond giving reference 
to your organization and work place.

Please join us in supporting our women and our community.

Best wishes,

-- 
Herman

Re: [Goanet] Re: No Wedding Mass for mixed marriages in Mumbai

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George Pinto (GP) asked: 1. Were nuns consulted in the
process? Or was 
it a male only decision
process?
 
Herman D'Souza (HP) 1:. Do nuns take all the decisions
of the church 
and the parish or only the
priests?

GP II: I take it that nuns were not consulted. 
Assuming that is true, 
the paternalistic
male-centered approach would benefit by consulting
nuns.  Nuns after 
all run schools, orphanages,
hospitals, and could offer input.

Ans III) so also there are lay catholic men and women
running big companys who can offer inputs. but the
fact is the priests run the church headed by the
Bishop / Cardinal in Bombay.  most of the religions
have always been a male centered. 

*** 
GP 2. Were lay Catholics consulted? Or was it a
religious directive 
from people who have not spent
time in the challenges of marriage?
 
HD 2 Ans: Maybe they have contacted the lay catholics.
but lay people 
too have different opinions
just like you and me. 

GP II: On such a significant issue concerning lay
Catholics, I am 
surprized that consulting them
is considered an option, and not a necessity.

Ans III) Maybe they have contacted lay people. but
everyone has a different opinion just like you and me.


***
GP 3. Does the policy reflect an underlying
intolerance of and 
superiority over other religions? 
Btw, other religions are restrictive too when it comes
to marriage.
 
HD 3. Ans. Its not an underlying intolerance of
superiority
but on the contrary it is the diminishing number of
catholic girls who 
marry in the church with
other faiths as a fashion and land up following the
other religion. 
(although some girls stick to
catholism).  

GP II: This works both ways as you point out. In a
multi-religious & 
secular society, respect for
each religion or lack of religion is important. I am
not sure the 
directive promotes that. Why not
merely suggest people marry within their religion if
that is the goal, 
why the need for a
directive?

Ans III) cause this is not written in the bible to
marry within the religion so the priest cannot impose
it on people. however they can restrict the catholic
marriages within the church


***
GP 4. Are more Catholics going to marry Catholics
under the policy or 
move away from the church -
and marriage?
 
HD 4: only time will tell. but the point is with this
policy the 
priests are trying to do what is
in their capacity to avoid the
catholic girls specially marrying into other
religions.

GP II:  Religion is one aspect of a marriage, there
are other 
significant issues. Would a Hindu
boy and Catholic girl both from North Goa have a
better chance at a 
successful marriage than a
Catholic girl from North Goa and a Chinese Catholic
boy?
 
Ans III) you are going away from the subject. any
marriage can be successful or not depends upon how
they live their life and interact with each other. we
are talking about performing catholic marriages in the
church and not about a boy from india marrying a girl
from timbaktu.


To summarize, catholics instead of supporting the
priest always try to bring hurdles and thats how
catholicism is being slowly branching into different
forms of christianity





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> George Pinto (GP) asked: 1. Were nuns consulted in
> the process? Or was it a male only decision
> process?
>  
> Herman D'Souza (HP) 1:. Do nuns take all the
> decisions of the church and the parish or only the
> priests?
> 
> GP II: I take it that nuns were not consulted. 
> Assuming that is true, the paternalistic
> male-centered approach would benefit by consulting
> nuns.  Nuns after all run schools, orphanages,
> hospitals, and could offer input.
> 
> *** 
> GP 2. Were lay Catholics consulted? Or was it a
> religious directive from people who have not spent
> time in the challen

[Goanet] Re: No Wedding Mass for mixed marriages in Mumbai

[Herman D'Souza]

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1. Were nuns consulted in the process? Or was it a
male only decision process?

Ans. Do nuns take all the decisions of the church and
the parish or only the priests? or are they consulted
about the running of the parish ? think about this
answer first and then you will get your answer to your
quetion.

2. Were lay Catholics consulted? Or was it a religious
directive from people who have not spent
time in the challenges of marriage?

Ans: Maybe they have contacted the lay catholics. but
lay people too have different opinions just like you
and me.  even they keep on contacting lay people they
will never be able to make a decision cause there are
millions of lay people who some may agree and some
dont. 

3. Does the policy reflect an underlying intolerance
of and superiority over other religions? 
Btw, other religions are restrictive too when it comes
to marriage.

Ans. Its not an underlying intolerance of superiority
but on the contrary it is the diminishing number of
catholic girls who marry in the church with other
faiths as a fashion and land up following the other
religion. (although some girls stick to catholism)  To
make the catholic faith stronger there should be some
rules set up by the church which we should abide by
it.

4. Are more Catholics going to marry Catholics under
the policy or move away from the church - and
marriage?

only time will tell. 

but the point is with this policy the priests are
trying to do what is in their capacity to avoid the
catholic girls specially marrying into other
religions.

I will tell you an incident where a catholic girl  got
married into the other religion thru the church and
although she was a catholic she stopped going to the
church due to her husbands family policy. at the end
when she died her own family wanted to bury her by
catholic rites. but her husbands family did not allow
saying that she is in his religion and the final rites
had to be done in his religion.

this is one of the many cases which happens

I hope this satisfies your questions. 


--- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Herman
> 
> Your emotive comments do not answer the questions I
> asked! I wrote nothing about respecting
> priests or the sacrifices they make (btw, I respect
> lay people and the sacrifices they make too).
> 
> Kindly re-read my questions.   
> 
> Regards,
> George
> 
> 
> --- Herman D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > first of all you should respect the priests as
> they are sacrificing their full lives for God.
> > 
> > if you have seen other religions you will
> understand why they have come to such decisions.
> 
> 

[Goanet] Re: No Wedding Mass for mixed marriages in Mumbai

[Herman D'Souza]

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first of all you should respect the priests as they are sacrificing their full 
lives for God.

if you have seen other religions you will understand why they have come to 
such decisions.

do you know in islam a muslim lady is not allowed to marry into any other 
religion. if she gets married the man also has to be a muslim.

however a muslim man is allowed to get married to a non muslim lady, and the 
children have to be muslims  

in doing this they increase the population of muslims.

everyone has a different opinion as all are different, and I think the priests 
have taken this stance based on the overall feedback they must have got from 
their experiences of performing marriages

Its not about intolerance against any other religion By doing this they will 
not stop mixed marriages as people who are determined will get married to whom
they like, but atleast they are trying to protect and increase the diminishing 
catholic population 

we are laymen and sitting in our comfortable homes we can comment anything. 
but before we comment please try to do the sacrifices and work what the 
priests and nuns are doing.



--- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It is difficult to believe that unmarried men in
> their 50's and 60's (Bishops and Cardinals) make
> these decisions about marriage in this world. A
> couple of questions:
> 
> 1. Were nuns consulted in the process? Or was it a
> male only decision process?
> 2. Were lay Catholics consulted? Or was it a
> religious directive from people who have not spent
> time in the challenges of marriage?
> 3. Does the policy reflect an underlying intolerance
> of and superiority over other religions? 
> Btw, other religions are restrictive too when it
> comes to marriage.
> 4. Are more Catholics going to marry Catholics under
> the policy or move away from the church - and
> marriage?
> 
> Regards,
> George

[Goanet] Re: No Wedding Mass for mixed marriages in Mumbai

[Herman D'Souza]

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In response to your query it cannot be considered to
be a mixed marriage. 

when a person converts before marriage be it a hindu
muslim jew or christian, to the faith of his or her
spouse and both are of the same religion it cannot be
termed as mixed marriage. 

they can then get married into either a temple,
mosque, synogogue or church as both will then belong
to same faith.  

only during marriage when both are of different
religions they are termed as mixed marriage


--- Sachin Phadte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> However, there is one query that comes to my mind. Will the church  
> consider the wedding to be a 'mixed marriage', if the non-Christian  spouse 
> converts to Chrstianity for the sake of having a church wedding?  I am 
> assuming that the Christian spouse or his/her family insists on a  church 
> wedding.  I know the couple have an option to be married in front  of an 
> appropriate authority, and that the marriage will be legally  recognised.
> 
> Sachin Phadte

Re: [Goanet] No Wedding Mass for mixed marriages in Mumbai

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I am sure the heads of the church in bombay has
thought deeply over it and have taken a logical
decision on this subject

I respect their decision


--- Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> 
> No more mass for mixed marriages
> By: Lajwanti D'Souza
> 
> November 9, 2005
>

> 
> In a bid to encourage Mumbai's Catholics to marry
> within the community, the 
> church has decided that individuals marrying outside
> the religion, will not 
> be allowed the wedding mass.
> 
> According to the Archdiocese of Mumbai, headed by
> Cardinal Ivan Dias, this 
> recent directive comes from Rome, and will
> discourage Catholics from 
> mixed-marriages. Such couples are also not given the
> sacrament.
> 
> But there are voices of protest among both clergy
> and flock. Priests say 
> that with young Catholics working at call centres,
> airlines and media, 
> there is every likelihood that mixed marriages will
> increase.
> 
> Fr Joe Pereira, head of St Anthony's Church,
> Mankhurd, said the new rule 
> was not in keeping with the times. "The church has
> to change. Today's 
> working conditions are such that people work long
> hours at office. We 
> should be open to the idea of mixed marriage as
> people are bound to find 
> love at their workplace."
> 
> Defending the rule, Fr Anthony Charanghat, spokesman
> for the Archdiocese of 
> Mumbai, said that the decision was taken to curb the
> increasing trend of 
> Catholics marrying outside the community.
> 
> "We hope that these (mixed) marriages are happening
> for the right reasons 
> and that they are convinced about their decisions.
> We respect every 
> religion, but we have decided to apply this rule to
> encourage marriage 
> within the community," he said.
> 
> Married couples  speak
> 
> Married couples are also hurt at this step-motherly
> treatment for mixed 
> marriages. Francisca Lobo, married to Mukund Nair,
> said, "As it is, the 
> sacrement is not administered for mixed marriages.
> We got married in church 
> because we wanted to."
> 
> Another couple, Anna Marie D'Souza and Biswajit Das,
> said the rule was 
> unfair. "We respect each other's religions and will
> bring up our children 
> in a way that they understand both faiths. Religion
> should not act like a 
> corporate house and dictate terms," said D'Souza.
> 
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[Goanet] GOANET ADMIN: Launching Goanet-careers

[Herman Carneiro]

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Dear Goanetters,

We are proud to introduce a new mailing list as part of the Goanet family -  
Goanet-careers!

Goanet-careers intends to be a platform where Goans can reach out to assist 
other Goans by way of career guidance, counselling, job searches, posting 
jobs, job placement assistance, immigration, accommodation, settling anew... 
and more.

As we all know, many Goans have left India and have become entrenched 
successfully in the new countries they embraced. Other Goans have emigrated 
out of Goa to other parts of India and have excelled. And, many Goans have 
excelled in Goa itself. As such, many of us are in a position to offer someone 
a job, to advertise openings in our companies/institutions, or to provide some 
sort of career guidance in a field that is familiar to us. Our Goan community 
needs a network to link those "in the know" with fellow Goans in need of such 
information. Goanet-careers aims to be such a network.

Though this seems to be a challenging venture, it is an attainable one. As in 
other community projects, the success of "Goanet-careers" will be achieved 
only by active participation of the Diasporic Goan community and Goans in Goa. 
We, therefore, encourage you to assist Goans worldwide by playing an active 
role in the Goanet-careers network.

Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to subscribe to this mailing 
list or subscribe at:

http://www.goanet.org/listinfo.php?name=News&list=goanet-careers

Thank you

Herman Carneiro
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[Goanet] Goanet Wiki - Online encyclopedia on Goa

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Goanetters,

I'd like to invite you to contribute to our recently launched wiki -- the 
Goanet Wiki. Please see http://www.goanet.org/wiki

A wiki (pronounced: weekee) is a web application that allows users to add 
content, as on an Internet forum, but also allows anyone to edit the content. 
The term Wiki also refers to the collaborative software used to create such a 
website.

Like many simple concepts, "open editing" has some profound and subtle effects 
on Wiki usage. Allowing everyday users to create and edit any page in a Web 
site is exciting in that it encourages democratic use of the Web and promotes 
content composition by nontechnical users.

The aim of the Goanet Wiki is to build an online encyclopedia on Goa. We'd like 
to request that you create a user account before editting information in the 
Wiki. We'd also like to request that you follow the basic rules that we use on 
the Goanet mailing lists. We'd like to encourage diplomatic exchange of 
information from anyone who wishes to participate.

I'd like to stress that the Wiki is very easy to use. You don't have to be an 
advanced user to contribute. All you have to do is to use the content that is 
already as an example.

I hope you will join in contributing to the Wiki. And, if you know of people 
who might be able to contribute, please tell them about the wiki.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best wishes,

-- 
Herman
http://www.goanet.org/wiki

[Goanet] Community greetings relaunched

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Goanetters,

As most of you will remember Goanet used to run a greetings service. Members 
would send us dates of birthdays, anniversaries and births and we would send 
out wishes on that day on their behalf. It gives me great pleasure to announce 
that we are going to relaunch our greetings service.

Taking over from Vincente Fernandes is Deborah Santamaria. We'd like to thank 
Vincente Fernandes for his work on the greetings service. We sincerely 
appreciate the time and effort he spent volunteering with us. I'm sure he'll be 
pleased that the greetings service is in good hands.

If you would like to send a special greeting to friends and family, please send 
your greetings to Deborah at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please do not forget to give us as much information as possible. For example:

To:
Name: Full Name
Location: City, Country
Date:
Occassion:  Birthday/Anniversary/Birth/etc
Special comments:

From:
Your name:
Location:

I'm including a short introduction to Deborah below. Please help her by sending 
in your special occassions.

Best wishes,

-- 
Herman



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Hi Everyone,

My name is Deborah Santamaria, and I have volunteered to be part of the
Goanet family. A brief about myself. I work for an Intalian Oil & Gas
Exploration & Production Company as HR & Communication Administrator.

I am also a co-ordinator for Pakistan for World Goa Day celebrations. I
have so far held 3 World Goa Day celebrations under my leadership. I was
Secrertary of the Goinkars Own Academy and took over as President after the
departure of the Founder and President Maurice Coutinho to Canada.

As you all know, I will be responsible for sending out birthday/anniversary
wishes, therefore would like to request you to please send me the dates for
your special ocassions. We would like all our members to feel special
receiving a greeting message on his/her special day from goanet.

Cheers

Deborah Santamaria
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[Goanet] Congratulations Mr. Gorgonio Lobo on celebrating 100th birthday

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Goanetters,

On behalf of all those on Goanet it gives me great pleasure to congratulate 
Mr. Gorgonio Lobo on celebrating his 100th birthday in Goa. Mr. Lobo 
celebrated the big day on September 9th, 2005.

Mr. Lobo, we wish good health and happiness. May you have many more.

Attached to this email is a copy of an email to us from Mr. Lobo's daughter, 
Sybil de Quadros. Following that is Mr. Lobo's birthday speech.

Please join me in congratulating Mr. Lobo.

Sincerely,

-- 
Herman Carneiro





- Forwarded message from Sybil & Novarro de Quadros <> -

Dear Fred & Herman:

I returned from Goa on Sept. 11th, after celebrating Dad's 100th birthday, on 
Sept. 9th.

We attended a Thanksgiving Mass at 9 a.m. After which Dad thanked his friends 
who were not able to join us at the reception later that evening. 

The reception was held at Emerald Lawns. Dad typed his speech & my son, Conrad 
had it re-typed in big block letters to make it easier for him to read. Dad 
did very well in delivering it.

I thank you on behalf on my sisters, brothers & all our children. 

God Bless!


Sybil 




- Subject: Gorgonio Lobo  - 100th Birthday September 9, 2005 -


My parents, Angelo & Libania worked in Entebbe, Uganda, where I was born in 
1905. I was the eldest of their 4 sons. 

Although my parents & 3 brothers have gone to their eternal reward they have 
left me with many happy memories and blessings.
 
In 1915 my parents returned to Goa. I joined St Joseph's High School Arpora in 
1915 & achieved my Matriculation in 1923.  

My first job in 1929 was as Clerk, with the Ministry of Health. I was 
appointed to Hospitals in Jinja, Soroti, Masindi, Entebbe, Masaka & Kampala, 
rising to the rank of  Medical Superintendent. 

In 1963, I retired after 34 years service with the Govt. After which I joined 
the Kampala City Council as a Graduated Tax Officer, until 1971.
 
In 1936 I married Priscilla De Souza from Calangute. Together we had 5 
children. As parents we fostered in our children a love for our Faith, the 
importance of education, enjoyment of music & a sense of community

The upheaval following the seizure of power by Idi Amin caused the dispersal 
of my family - Arthur & Judy to Perth Australia, Sybil & Alfred to Canada. 
Bertha had married and joined her husband in Switzerland.

The opportunity to go to England or Australia were forgone as the pull of my 
ancestrial home "water from my own well" was strongest. My wife & I returned 
to Goa. Later we spent 2-1/2 in Perth with our family & many ex-Ugandan 
friends.

After my return to Goa, I was able to contribute to the community teaching 
violin & the organ & supporting the Parish of St Anne. 

My contributions in Uganda: President & Founding Member of the Parent Teacher 
Association in Entebbe & Kampala. Member of the Advisory Board of Asian 
Education, Kampala; Member of the Central Goan Council & President of the Goan 
Institute, Entebbe. Member of the Asian Widows & Orphans Pension Fund, 
Kampala. Member of the Uganda Defence Force (2 yrs.) in 1941.

Many have asked the secret of my longevity. It is ultimately the Blessing of 
God. However the constant use of mind & body kept me going, i.e. teaching 
music, keeping up to date with current affairs, managing my own finances. 
Maintaining a large home demanded a daily routine of activity. 

Until 2003 I rode my scooter & drove my car to Mapusa & the church & in doing 
so, maintained an independent lifestyle.

The regular visits from friends & their children has renewed the bonds of 
great friendship we created & fostered in Uganda.

Sadly my wife of 67 years passed away on November 22, 2003.

I look forward to be a Centenarian as I target my 100th Birthday & would like 
to request all my dear friends to participate spiritually in my Thanks-
giving Prayers to Almighty God for granting me a long lease of life.

I am happy to be celebrating my Birthday on September 9, 2005 in the company 
of my children and grandchildren from Geneva, Switzerland, Perth, Western 
Australia & Montreal/Toronto, Canada & friends. 
 


May God Bless you all.



--
Hello Judy & Sybil. 

Forwarding herewith information sought by you.Pl. refer to your E-mail.

a) Gorgonio Lobo born in Entebbe, Uganda.

b) He did his schooling at St. Joseph High School,Arpora Goa in the 
year 1915 to 1923 passed his Matriculation

c) He started his first job in the year 1929 with the Min. of Health
Headquarters,clerical division gradually rising to Asst. Hospital 
d) Superintendentand finally to Superrintendent. He served in various
District Hospitals Entebbe,Mulago,Soroti,Masaka,Masindi,Jinja,Total 
e)34 years of service He also worked for Kampala City Council Asst.
graduated Tax Officer for 8 years.

g) He retired in the Year 1963 from the Govt Job after 34 years and in
year 1971 fr

[Goanet] Goanet's 11th Anniversary - August 25, 2005

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Goanetters,

Goanet celebrates its 11th anniversary today -- August 25, 2005.  On behalf of 
the Goanet Admin team, I'd like to thank all our members for making this 
possible.

Goanet had a humble beginning in 1994 with only 20 members.  Today, Goanet is 
*the* public forum of choice for Goans worldwide for addressing important 
issues.  I'd like to thank you, our members, for your role in making this 
possible.  You've posted interesting articles and shared your opinions making 
Goanet an interesting and vibrant forum.  Indeed, Goanet has a great wealth of 
information in its archives. We hope that you will continue to do the same in 
the future.

Special thanks go to all our volunteers for their role in Goanet's success:

Frederick Noronha (Goa, India)
Viviana Coelho (San Francisco, CA, USA)
Bosco D'Mello (Toronto, Canada)
Daisy Rodrigues (CA, USA)
Michelle D'Souza (Boston, MA, USA)
Christina Pinto (Australia)
Vincente Fernandes (Goa, India)

We are very lucky to have such a dedicated group of people volunteering with 
us.  Having worked personally with each of these volunteers I can tell you that 
they spend countless hours of working on Goanet.  They do not look for 
recognition or thanks of any sort.  They just continue to work diligently day 
in and day out.  In my eyes, they are nothing short of heroes in our community.

What does the future hold for Goanet?

As you know, the Goanet mailing lists have been the mainstay of Goanet.  We 
will continue to expand this network to reach Goans wherever they may be.  We 
will also continue to work towards improving the quality of the forum.

Last year saw the Goanet take a huge step forward with the launch of 
http://www.goanet.org/.  This year, we plan to develop the website further.  We 
plan to improve our news service, introduce innovative ways to share 
information and to launch community building projects in Goa.

I hope to see more of you volunteer with Goanet. You don't have to be computer 
savvy.  You just have to be willing to devote a little time to your community.  
Together we can provide a valuable public service to our community.

Congratulations to Goanet on its 11th anniversary!

Best wishes,

Herman Carneiro
Goanet Admin


Goanet
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[Goanet]GOANET ADMIN ANNOUNCEMENT: Goanet Rules - Revised

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Volunteer to help in running and ensuring growth for Goanet's ventures –- 
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[Goanet]Fwd: For kind favour of publication: COMPUTER SIMULATION SEMINAR AT XAVIER’S

[Herman Carneiro]

- Forwarded message from "St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science and 
Commerce - Mapusa - Goa - India" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:01:10 +0530



Dear Sir,

I  will be grateful  if you publish the enclosed in your issue and oblige.
With many thanks and kind regards,

Yours sincerely,

(Prof. Newman Fernandes)
Principal


COMPUTER   SIMULATION   SEMINAR   AT   XAVIER’S


Keeping in mind the need to harness the potent tools provided by 
Information Technology and thereby provide teachers with new and powerful 
means of communication, St. Xavier’s College, Mapusa will organize an 
Inter-disciplinary Seminar on “Computer Simulation in Science Education” on 
03/10/2005 at the College Hall. This is a part of a series of ten 
Inter-disciplinary Seminars planned by the college in 2005-06.

The Seminar is open to Science teachers at the College and Higher Secondary 
School levels and others who are interested.  It will consist of 
demonstrations & talks by Resource Persons and also paper presentations on 
the subject.

Those interested in participating or presenting papers at the Seminar may 
kindly contact the College Office, for further details, on Tel. No. 2262356 
during working hours on / before 31/08/2005.
­­­
Thanking you,

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Dear Sir,
I  will be grateful  if you publish the enclosed in your issue
and oblige. 
With many thanks and kind regards,
Yours sincerely,
(Prof. Newman Fernandes) 
Principal 
 
COMPUTER   SIMULATION  
SEMINAR   AT   XAVIER’S
 

Keeping in mind the need to harness the potent tools provided by
Information Technology and thereby provide teachers with new and powerful
means of communication, St. Xavier’s College, Mapusa will organize an
Inter-disciplinary Seminar on “Computer Simulation in Science
Education” on 03/10/2005 at the College Hall. This is a part of a
series of ten Inter-disciplinary Seminars planned by the college
in 2005-06.
 
The Seminar is open to Science teachers at the College and Higher
Secondary School levels and others who are interested.  It will
consist of demonstrations & talks by Resource Persons and also paper
presentations on the subject.
 
Those interested in participating or presenting papers at the Seminar may
kindly contact the College Office, for further details, on Tel. No.
2262356 during working hours on / before 31/08/2005.
­­­
Thanking you,

[Goanet]Fwd: For kind favour of publication: FRENCH ESSAY COMPETITION AT XAVIER'S

[Herman Carneiro]

- Forwarded message from "St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science and 
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Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:28:38 +0530
Subject: For kind favour of publication:   FRENCH ESSAY COMPETITION AT  XAVIER'S
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Dear Sir,

I  will be grateful  if you publish the enclosed in your issue and oblige.
With many thanks and kind regards,

Yours sincerely,

(Prof. Newman Fernandes)
Principal


French Essay Competition at  Xavier's


  The Department of French at St. Xavier's College, Mapusa, is 
organising an essay competition for the students of schools and higher 
secondaries on the 28th July 2005 at 3:00 p.m. The time limit is one hour 
and the maximum no. of words is 300. The number of participants allowed 
from each institute is two.The topics for the competition are:
si j'étais un oiseau,un rêve que vous avez fait,vos souvenirs d'enfance,mon 
voyage imaginaire en France.
The students can choose any one of the topics from the above mentioned.
Kindly confirm your participation on or before 21st July 2005 either by 
post or email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
phone:2262356

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Dear Sir,
I  will be grateful  if you publish the enclosed in your issue
and oblige. 
With many thanks and kind regards,
Yours sincerely,
(Prof. Newman Fernandes) 
Principal 
 
French Essay Competition at  Xavier's 


     The Department
of French at St. Xavier's College, Mapusa, is organising an essay
competition for the students of schools and higher secondaries on the
28th July 2005 at 3:00 p.m. The time limit is one hour and the
maximum no. of words is 300. The number of participants allowed from each
institute is two.The topics for the competition are:
si j'étais un oiseau,un rêve que vous avez fait,vos souvenirs
d'enfance,mon voyage imaginaire en France.
The students can choose any one of the topics from the above
mentioned.
Kindly confirm your participation on or before 21st July 2005
either by post or email:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] or phone:2262356

[Goanet]GOANET ADMIN: Goanet Rules and Guidelines

[Herman Carneiro]

Goanet Rules and Guidelines can be found at:

http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?
op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=9&POSTNUKESID=a065bd9880ad7faca0ef7f26662
c29bc

Goanet offers a unique venue for communication on varied issues. In a 
continuing effort to ensure that this forum remains respectful, we have 
established the following Rules and Guidelines.

Please note that membership to this discussion group is provided FREE of 
charge. In the event any person soliciting a financial contribution for 
membership to the List approaches you, please report the incident to the 
List's administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RULES

* Do not use foul or abusive language.

* Do not engage in personal attacks. In other words, no name-calling.

* Spam is not tolerated on this list. Goanet treats repeated postings, 
commercial posts, lengthy reposts of an earlier posting, among others, as 
spam. If you're quoting an earlier post, quote the minimum.

* Do not send attachments or images with your message; text files should not 
be sent as an attachment, rather, copy the text into your message.

* Use your real name as the Sender, not an alias.

* Use a meaningful Subject Line.

* Do not post messages in HTML or MIME formats, i.e. no bold, italics, colored 
text, etc. Rather, format your emails in plain text only.

* If you are copying a post from a website, post a brief description of what 
you would like to communicate and include the URL address.

* Do not post advertisements. Commercial postings have to be paid for if 
circulated via Goanet. The Goanet Admin’s decisions on all matters are final.

* Once a particular discussion is declared "closed" by the Goanet Admin Team, 
anyone continuing that discussion is likely to face action. Every effort will 
be made to keep discussions democratic, free and open, but when a topic goes 
on endlessly in circles or threatens to transgress decent debate, or for any 
similar reasons, the Admin Team will be empowered to declare that 
discussion "closed."


A violation of any of the rules will result in a reprimand. Subsequent 
violations could result in suspended or terminated membership. The decision to 
suspend or terminate membership will be a function of the severity and 
frequency of the breaches.


GUIDELINES

* Post material which is relevant to Goan communities worldwide.

* Keep your message brief.

* Do not forward private email to the list without permission from the author.

* If you face a problem with another member, bring the complaint to Goanet 
Administration at [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than to the list.

* Use civil language and a polite tone in all your discussions.


TIPS

* Use a "smiley" to indicate a light-hearted comment, e.g. =) :-) B^)

* New members might want to observe how the list works before posting, or can 
check out the archives. Click here to visit the Goanet archives.

* Pay attention to where your reply is going - do you really want the entire 
list to receive your message, or would you rather limit the audience?

* Post a brief profile of yourself to the list as soon as possible after 
joining.

* If you have problems with the volume of mail, shift to the Goanet-Digest. 
You will receive one to three e-mails a day depending on the list’s activity. 
To join Goanet-Digest contact Goanet Administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


WE NEED YOUR HELP!

* Publicize the existence of Goanet's mailing lists and website.

* Volunteer your time. Goanet is a volunteer-driven organization.

* Encourage the newer and silent members to post to these Lists.

* Send us the email addresses of people who might be interested in joining 
these Lists - we will not include them unless they agree to be part of Goanet 
or Goanet-Digest.

* GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK - we appreciate all comments, complaints and bouquets. 
You can reach us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Goanet Administration Team:
Herman Carneiro, Boston, MA, USA
Vivian Coelho, San Francisco, CA, USA
Fred Noronha, Goa, India
Bosco D'Mello, Toronto, CA

Re: [Goanet]Goan dances around the world

[Herman D'Souza]

Sure 

I would be willing to go for this dance.

I will not dance with the most desirable woman,
however I am ready to dance with the rest of the most
desirable women at the dance.

And by the way, how do one judge a most desirable
woman???
Different men have different tastes? am I right?
Ones persons food may also be another persons poison.

Herman



--- Mervyn Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Folks,
> I am going "Cecil" and will try to take a poll on
> Goanet.
> 
> Is there any Goan man here who would accept an
> invitation to go for the following dance?  A dance
> where the invitee has just one restriction. That
> restriction is that you can dance with anyone you
> want
> to, but are barred from dancing with the most
> desirable woman at the function.
> 
> If there is someone who would go for such a dance,
> please let me know.
> 
> Mervyn3.0
> Notice that I have not complicated things by adding
> that the guest may also be barred from going to
> certain areas like the bar, etc. If any of you think
> that this is an analogy for the US presidency, Cuba,
> 
> etc, well, that is purely coincidental.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Goanet]Goanet launches new website

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Friends of Goanet,

With the Goan community's active participation on Goanet driving the dialogue 
amongst Goans in Goa and the Diaspora, it gives me great pleasure to announce 
that Goanet has a new and improved website at www.goanet.org.

At the outset, our main objective was to provide our members with a user 
friendly interface to access the mailing list archives.  As the project 
developed it took on a life of its own.  The website now provides some novel 
features.

WEBSITE FEATURES

1.  News

You can now access the latest news from Goanet on our website.

2.  Goanet Reader

This features interesting essays submitted by a variety of authors.

3.  Mailing lists

This section features a user friendly way to subscribe to the Goanet mailing 
lists.  You can also change your membership preferences here. Also included in 
this section is access to the popular Goanet archives dating back to 1999.

4.  Tutorials

For those of us who have trouble posting to Goanet in plain text, we have a 
simple tutorial to walk you through the process.

5.  Contact Us

This section provides all our contact information.

6.  Announcements

This feature provides a simple method for us to communicate information to our 
website visitors.

7.  Support Goanet

Goanet is a non-profit volunteer-driven organization that provides a valuable 
public service.  We rely on your support to provide these services. This 
section provides a number of ways in which you can support Goanet.

8.  Polls

We hope to ask your opinion on some sizzling topics.

9.  Events Calendar

Goanet is a unique platform for communication worldwide. We hope to provide 
Goans around the world with a list of events both in their countries and 
abroad. Please feel free to submit events in your corner of the world.

10.  Aichea Dissak Chintop (Thought for the Day)

Dominic Fernandes' thoughtful one-liners are featured in this section.

As you can see, our website is filled with interesting and useful 
information.  And, this is just the start. We plan to develop our website 
further to provide some innovative tools.  Having said this, we will not 
neglect our mailing lists.  We will develop our website and mailing lists to 
compliment each other. We hope that our members will provide direction to us 
through their continued feedback.

We'd like to thank the Goanet community for its support over the last 10 
years. Goanet owes its success to you. Special thanks go to our volunteers for 
their outstanding public service: Fred Noronha, Viviana Coelho, Bosco D'Mello, 
and new volunteers Michelle D'Souza and Christina Pinto.

Enjoy the website!

Best wishes,

Herman Carneiro
Founder, Goanet

[Goanet]GOANET ADMIN: Goanet Rules and Guidelines

[Herman Carneiro]

We at Goanet Administration would like to take this opportunity to thank all 
of our members for their continued respectful discourse on issues that are of 
common interest. We believe that Goanet is uniquely qualified to offer a venue 
for communication on varied issues. In a continuing effort to ensure that this 
forum remains respectful, we will take this opportunity to repost the Rules 
and Guidelines. Please direct comments and suggestions to Goanet 
Administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please note that membership to this discussion group is provided FREE of 
charge. In the event any person soliciting a financial contribution for 
membership to the List approaches you, please report the incident to the 
List's administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RULES

1.  Do not use foul or abusive language.

2.  Do not engage in personal attacks.

3.  Spam is not tolerated on this list. Goanet treats repeated postings, 
commercial posts, lengthy reposts of an earlier posting, among others, as 
spam. If you're quoting an earlier post, quote the minimum.

4.  Do not send attachments or images with your message; text files should not 
be sent as an attachment, rather, copy the text into your message.

5.  Use your real name as the Sender, not an alias. Otherwise, sign your 
emails with your real name.

6.  Use a meaningful Subject Line.

7.  Do not post messages in HTML or MIME formats, i.e. no bold, italics, 
colored text, etc., or printed quotable text. Rather, format your emails in 
plain text only.

8.  If you are copying a post from a website, post a brief description of what 
you would like to communicate and include the URL address.

9.  Advertisements and commercial postings have to be paid for if circulated 
via Goanet. Please write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more details. The Goanet 
Admin's decision on all matters are final.

10. Once a particular discussion is declared "closed" by the Goanet Admin 
Team, anyone continuing that discussion is likely to face action. Every effort 
will be made to keep discussions democratic, free and open, but when a topic 
goes on endlessly in circles or threatens to transgress decent debate, or for 
any similar reasons, the Admin Team will be empowered to declare that 
discussion "closed."

11. Fundraising on Goanet is prohibited, except with consent from the Admin 
Team.


A violation of any of the rules will result in a reprimand. Subsequent 
violations could result in suspended or terminated membership. The decision to 
suspend or terminate membership will be a function of the severity and 
frequency of the breaches.


GUIDELINES

a. Post material which is relevant to Goan communities worldwide.

b. Keep your message brief.

c. Do not forward private email to the list without permission from the author.

d. If you face a problem with another member, bring the complaint to Goanet 
Administration at [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than to the list.

e. Use civil language and a polite tone in all your discussions.

f. When participating in a discussion, do not change the Subject Line with the 
exception of adding an "Re: " to the front. Most email software does this 
automatically. This will ensure that threads are archived correctly in the 
archives.

g. Do not post Admin-related emails to the list, e.g. subscribe, unsubscribe, 
change email, etc. Send an email directly to the Admin Team for help at: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



TIPS

i.   Use a "smiley" to indicate a lighthearted comment, e.g. =) :-) B^)

ii.  New members might want to observe how the list works before posting, or 
can check out the archives at:

http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goa-net/

iii. Pay attention to where your reply is going - do you really want the 
entire list to receive your message, or would you rather limit the audience?

iv.  Post a brief profile of yourself to the list as soon as possible after 
joining.

v.   If you have problems with the volume of mail, shift to the Goanet-Digest. 
You will receive one to three e-mails a day depending on the list’s activity. 
To join Goanet-Digest contact Goanet Administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



WE NEED YOUR HELP!

1. Publicize the existence of the Lists.

2. Volunteer your time. Goanet is a volunteer-driven organization.

3. Encourage the newer and silent members to post to these Lists.

4. Send us the email addresses of people who might be interested in joining 
these Lists - we will not include them unless they agree to be part of Goanet 
or Goanet-Digest.

5. GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK - we appreciate all comments, complaints and 
bouquets. You can reach us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Many thanks to our volunteers for all their hard work:

Vincente Fernandes (birthdays and anniversaries, [EMAIL PROTECTED])


Goanet Administration Team:

Herman Carneiro, Boston, MA, USA
Vivian Coelho, San Francisco, CA, USA
Fred Noronha, Goa, India
Bosco D'Mello, Toronto, Canada

[Goanet]GOANET ADMIN: Launching Goanet Classifieds

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Goanet Members,

Goanet is now accepting advertisements from commercial entities and 
individuals to be broadcast on Goanet, the mailing list.

The revenue generated from these advertisements will be utilized to support 
Goanet’s day-to-day operations.  Any surplus funds will be used to support 
community-building projects in Goa. 

Those wishing to advertise may please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for further 
details.

Goanet is, and will continue to be, a non-profit volunteer-driven 
organization.  We are committed to building social capital to benefit Goa, 
Goans and the Diaspora.

Please direct feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you all for your support and feedback.

Herman Carneiro
Goanet Admin


***
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *
***
 T H I SS P A C EC A NB EY O U R S
  Advertise your Product(s) and  Service(s) on Goanet
 &   S u p p o r t   G o a n e t   o p e r a t i o n s
   F o r   d e t a i l s   c o n t a c t  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***

[Goanet]GOANET ADMIN: Goanet Rules and Guidelines

[Herman Carneiro]

We at Goanet Administration would like to take this opportunity to thank all 
of our members for their continued respectful discourse on issues that are of 
common interest. We believe that Goanet is uniquely qualified to offer a venue 
for communication on varied issues. In a continuing effort to ensure that this 
forum remains respectful, we will take this opportunity to repost the Rules 
and Guidelines. Please direct comments and suggestions to Goanet 
Administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please note that membership to this discussion group is provided FREE of 
charge. In the event any person soliciting a financial contribution for 
membership to the List approaches you, please report the incident to the 
List's administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RULES

1.  Do not use foul or abusive language.

2.  Do not engage in personal attacks.

3.  Spam is not tolerated on this list. Goanet treats repeated postings, 
commercial posts, lengthy reposts of an earlier posting, among others, as 
spam. If you're quoting an earlier post, quote the minimum.

4.  Do not send attachments or images with your message; text files should not 
be sent as an attachment, rather, copy the text into your message.

5.  Use your real name as the Sender, not an alias. Otherwise, sign your 
emails with your real name.

6.  Use a meaningful Subject Line.

7.  Do not post messages in HTML or MIME formats, i.e. no bold, italics, 
colored text, etc., or printed quotable text. Rather, format your emails in 
plain text only.

8.  If you are copying a post from a website, post a brief description of what 
you would like to communicate and include the URL address.

9.  Advertisements and commercial postings have to be paid for if circulated 
via Goanet. Please write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more details. The Goanet 
Admin's decision on all matters are final.

10. Once a particular discussion is declared "closed" by the Goanet Admin 
Team, anyone continuing that discussion is likely to face action. Every effort 
will be made to keep discussions democratic, free and open, but when a topic 
goes on endlessly in circles or threatens to transgress decent debate, or for 
any similar reasons, the Admin Team will be empowered to declare that 
discussion "closed."

11. Fundraising on Goanet is prohibited, except with consent from the Admin 
Team.


A violation of any of the rules will result in a reprimand. Subsequent 
violations could result in suspended or terminated membership. The decision to 
suspend or terminate membership will be a function of the severity and 
frequency of the breaches.



GUIDELINES

a. Post material which is relevant to Goan communities worldwide.

b. Keep your message brief.

c. Do not forward private email to the list without permission from the author.

d. If you face a problem with another member, bring the complaint to Goanet 
Administration at [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than to the list.

e. Use civil language and a polite tone in all your discussions.

f. When participating in a discussion, do not change the Subject Line with the 
exception of adding an "Re: " to the front. Most email software does this 
automatically. This will ensure that threads are archived correctly in the 
archives.

g. Do not post Admin-related emails to the list, e.g. subscribe, unsubscribe, 
change email, etc. Send an email directly to the Admin Team for help at: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



TIPS

i.   Use a "smiley" to indicate a lighthearted comment, e.g. =) :-) B^)

ii.  New members might want to observe how the list works before posting, or 
can check out the archives at:

http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goa-net/

iii. Pay attention to where your reply is going - do you really want the 
entire list to receive your message, or would you rather limit the audience?

iv.  Post a brief profile of yourself to the list as soon as possible after 
joining.

v.   If you have problems with the volume of mail, shift to the Goanet-Digest. 
You will receive one to three e-mails a day depending on the list’s activity. 
To join Goanet-Digest contact Goanet Administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



WE NEED YOUR HELP!

1. Publicize the existence of the Lists.

2. Volunteer your time. Goanet is a volunteer-driven organization.

3. Encourage the newer and silent members to post to these Lists.

4. Send us the email addresses of people who might be interested in joining 
these Lists - we will not include them unless they agree to be part of Goanet 
or Goanet-Digest.

5. GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK - we appreciate all comments, complaints and 
bouquets. You can reach us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Many thanks to our volunteers for all their hard work:

Vincente Fernandes (birthdays and anniversaries, [EMAIL PROTECTED])


Goanet Administration Team:

Herman Carneiro, Boston, MA, USA
Vivian Coelho, San Francisco, CA, USA
Fred Noronha, Goa, India
Bosco D'Mello, Toronto, Canada

[Goanet]GOANET ADMIN: ANNOUCEMENT of INITIATIVES

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Goanet members,

In connection with Goanet's 10th anniversary, and plans to become even more 
meaningful to our readers in cyberspace, we have been working on a number of 
ideas over the past few months.

Over the past few years, we have launched the Cybermatrimonials network.  It 
puts interested people in touch with each other, and builds links leveraging 
cyberspace. This, together with the 'birthdays/anniversaries initiative', has 
been well appreciated by our readership.

In the coming weeks, we will be announcing some new initiatives. But the 
immediate one is the launch of Goanet News Service and a network called Goanet-
Careers.  We are currently finalising the launch of the Goanet News Service, 
which will bring in some special and exclusive coverage from, on and about Goa.

We are specially looking at how we can go beyond the mainstream, newspaper-
based news circuit in Goa. We see Goanet as contributing to play a positive 
role in creating more space for the average Goan (and friend of Goa) to 
express themselves.

We also look forward to bringing out more content that would be relevant to 
Goanetters of diverse age groups, interests and nationalities.

News has long been a vital input for Goanet. We recognise its importance in 
keeping the Goan diaspora connected with Goa, in helping them understand their 
roots, and in playing a more critical role in making a difference to Goa and 
the lives of the people of the region, wherever they may be currently living.  
We are in the process of revamping our news setup, and should have better 
options shortly in place. You can expect to see the impact of the changes 
within the next fortnight.

In the meantime, we would like to thank Joel D'Souza (GoaCom) and wish him 
well, for the news-summaries he has been offering our readers. Joel has 
followed the footsteps of Vishwas Chavan and Frederick Noronha, and has been 
one who has sent out daily news to the members of Goanet. Joel moves on to 
pursue other endeavours.  His last news clippings will be posted at the end of 
January.  We appreciate his contribution!

Goanet-Careers is oriented towards career-related issues for our readers. More 
information will follow.

How you can help Goanet:

 * Be a volunteer to report news happenings in your Goan community.
 * Be a volunteer to draw Goanet's attention to breaking news in cyberspace.
 * Opt to volunteer as a 'Goanet Overseas Ambassador', a 'GOA' island wherever 
you're located, building links between Goanet and the wider community of Goans 
and people interested in Goa.
 * Give feedback and suggestions regarding Goanet and its content.
 * Forward copies of news and postings to non-Goanetters (family and friends), 
and suggest that they sign-up if they'd benefit from this service.

It is important to us that you give us feedback during this process so that we 
can tailor our services to provide you with the information you want and to do 
it efficiently and effectively.  Your feedback matters!

Thank you Goanetters for your support in the past decade as we continue to 
undertake our innovative journey in unchartered cyberwaters.

Yours sincerely,

Herman Carneiro
Chair
Goanet Admin



GOANET -- BUILDING SOCIAL CAPITAL SINCE 1994. Social capital refers to the 
collective value of all 'social networks' and the inclinations that arise from 
these networks to do things for each other, according to Robert Putnam, author 
of Bowling Alone and the concept's leading exponent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_capital

[Goanet]Subscription to Goanet - unsubscribe options

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Goanet members,

We'd like to remind you that you are receiving email from Goanet because you 
have subscribed to the Goanet mailing list. ***This in NOT spam.***

To unsubscribe from Goanet please visit:

Goanet
http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/Goanet

Goanet-news
http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/Goanet-news

Alternatively, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your request.

Thank you,

-- 
HERMAN CARNEIRO
Goanet Admin

Goanet:  http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
Email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Goanet]RIBANDAR thread

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Aires and members,

I think it's clear that most of our members are tired of hearing about the
Ribandar case over and over, especially when there have not been any
significant developments.  With that in mind, we're going to partially
close the discussion. If a post is made about a significant development in
the case we'll approve it. But, we'll only do it if there is a SIGNIFICANT
development.

Those of you who are interested in the case and would like updates, I
suggest that you contact Aires directly.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns, please feel free to
contact the Goanet Admin (copied above).

Sincerely yours,

Herman Carneiro
Goanet Admin

RE: [Goanet]Betting odds?

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Tim, Ron and Mario,

Point taken. A few responses preceded by ***.


Quoting Tim de Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> (Copying this to Herman & Fred as some of my posting to Goa-Net mysteriously
> "disappear".)

*** It's not fair to say that your posts "mysteriously disappear" as if we 
discard them underhandedly. We have nothing to gain by doing that. If an email 
is rejected from the forum an email automatically sent to you automatically by 
the mailing list program. We add comments informing you why it was rejected.

If this is indeed happening, please send us an email and we'll look into it.


Quoting Tim de Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Most of the exchange of e-mails on the political stance of the US in Iraq, 
> etc has been put forth by by some right wing leaning members. The have been 
> well ariticulated and for the most part these discussions have been carried 
> out in a civilized manner.
> 
> The counter arguments have been put forward by many of our members who are 
> very well regarded by the general membership. They have articulated and 
> presented well balanced counter arguments. This debate, as far as content 
> goes, IMHO, surpasses many other discussions that have taken place on this 
> forum.
> 
> These discussions have taken place between Goans who consider these 
> arguments important. To take such arguments offline, as some of them did, 
> deprives others of the discussion taking place.

*** We, too, thought that the debate was being carried out in a civilized 
manner, which is why we let it go on as long as it did. However, we demand a 
certain etiquette in participating in debates because we need to be 
considerate to all our members. Sending 10 posts in an hour arguing every 
minute point is unacceptable. You and I might find the email load acceptable, 
but many of our members who do not have good internet connections do not. They 
simply unsubscribe depriving themselves of this and other discussions. I don't 
think that is fair.

We repeatedly asked the participant involved to argue in a more concise 
manner, which he did not do.

Furthermore, not all the members on the list were welcomed the debate. One 
well-regarded member asked "Is this Goanet or Iraq-Net?"

We, therefore, decided to put and end to the debate.


Quoting Tim de Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> There are many posts that keep popping up with fair regularity that I 
> consider annoying and of little merit either to Goa or to the general 
> membership. Consider, for example, the self promoting posts of Rene 
> regarding Goa Day.
> 
> Is it the opinion of the GoaNet Admin team that as long as the post contains
> the word Goa in it, any such drivel is acceptable?
>
> The decision to stop the debate is nothing more than small minded thinking 
> by the Admin Team. And ridiculous!

*** We have a difficult task of moderating posts. The decisions we make will 
never please everyone. But, all of you know full well that we do have debates 
that are of general interest but not related to Goa. One has only to browse 
the archives to be convinced.

I think it's important for members to send us some feedback so that we can 
accommodate suggestions to improve the forum. Perhaps it's better to send us a 
discrete email rather than to single out people publicly.


--
Herman Carneiro
Goanet Admin

[Goanet]Goanet Rules and Guidelines

[Herman Carneiro]

We at Goanet Administration would like to take this opportunity to thank all of 
our members for their continued respectful discourse on issues that are of 
common interest. We believe that Goanet is uniquely qualified to offer a venue 
for communication on varied issues. In a continuing effort to ensure that this 
forum remains respectful, we will take this opportunity to repost the Rules and 
Guidelines. Please direct comments and suggestions to Goanet Administration at: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please note that membership to this discussion group is provided FREE of 
charge. In the event any person soliciting a financial contribution for 
membership to the List approaches you, please report the incident to the List's 
administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RULES

1. Do not use foul or abusive language.

2. Do not engage in personal attacks.

3. Spam is not tolerated on this list. Goanet treats repeated postings, 
commercial posts, lengthy reposts of an earlier posting, among others, as spam. 
If you're quoting an earlier post, quote the minimum.

4. Do not send attachments or images with your message; text files should not 
be sent as an attachment, rather, copy the text into your message.

5. Use your real name as the Sender, not an alias. Otherwise, sign your emails 
with your real name.

6. Use a meaningful Subject Line.

7. Do not post messages in HTML or MIME formats, i.e. no bold, italics, colored 
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Re: [Goanet]Konkani Course

[Herman D'Souza]

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Thank you for your appreciation Mr. Fausto, I am
basically not in india, but presently in the Gulf.  

I think one of the easiest and best ways to spread
konkani is linking it to all the goan websites.

however i would luv to assist in anyway I can.

Mog Asunc
Herman



 --- "Fausto V. D'Costa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Konkani Course
> What Herman says makes a lot of sense. Let's
> encouarge them. Requesting
> hehman to join me in the effort.
> Zankam Konknni xikchi humed asa tanche khatir
> xikxonn patth ani audio
> casette asat. Xivai, Sarki Amchi Bhas Sompi hem Fr.
> Rodrigues-achem pustok
> asa.
> Konnak xikonk zai tannim khobor kaddun gheum ieta.
> Borivli Konknni Kurs suru korum-ia. Hermanachean
> toiar korun mhaka kolloum
> ieta.
> Konknni vachtoleank V. Ixtt, Gulab, Goan Review him
> masik asat. Gheum-ia ani
> vachum-ia.
> Fausto
> - Original Message -
> From: "Herman D'Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 5:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Goanet]Konkani Course
> 
> 
> > Ghoddeak udkachim passun vorot zalear faido nam
> > kiteak ghodeak tan lagot zalear-uch udok pieatolo
> > nam zalear ghoddo, vho khoinchent zanvor vho munis
> > kosem udik pieatelem?
> >
> > teka lagon zhe goeamkar konkani uloinam te, tankan
> > konkanichi tan dakonc zaie tednach te konkani
> xinkonc
> > etelet.
> >
> > instead of criticizing them we should encourage
> them
> > to speak konkani.
> >
> > As i had said in my previous mail that there are
> three
> > type of goans living in bombay
> >
> > one who loves to proudly speak write and read
> konkani
> > one who are ashamed to talk konkani in public
> > and one who has never come in contact with konkani
> >
> > we should be proud of our language and no doubt we
> > have to speak english at business but whenever
> > opportunity permits we should openly speak
> konkani.
> >
> > with best regards
> > Herman D'Souza
> >
> >
> >  --- "Fausto V. D'Costa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> >
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> > > GRAF has been conducting Konkani courses in
> Bombay
> > > for the past 4 years.
> > > Although the courses are aimed at teaching
> Konkani
> > > to the Goans, we end up
> > > teaching Konkani to non-goans who have either
> > > settled in Goa, or have
> > > business in Goa and/or have a holiday home in
> Goa.
> > > GRAF also conducts Konkani Seminars atleast
> twice a
> > > year but the attendance
> > > is very poor. Basically Goans are not proud of
> their
> > > language, suffer from a
> > > complex.
> > > The Konkani masses in Bombay are conducted by
> the
> > > Mangaloreans. The hymnal,
> > > Lectionary etc. are in Kan'nad Konkani. I have
> > > conducted Konkani courses for
> > > even five students. If Borivli goans are
> interested
> > > in learning Konkani,
> > > enroll 20 people and we will conduct the course
> even
> > > without a nominal fee.
> > > First time in history a Konkani show was
> organised
> > > by KBM Mumbai at
> > > Shanmukhananda hall which was attending by 2400
> > > people speaking Konkani. And
> > > out of this only 5% were goans.
> > > Ghoddeak udka xim
> > >  vhorom ieta, punn udok pivonk nett korunk
> > > nozo.Kursachi vatt polloun
> > > ravtam, na zalear Khursachi Vatt korum-ia.
> > > Fausto
> > >
> > > Herman wrote:
> > > > my suggestion is if there are any goans
> interested
> > > to
> > > >

[Goanet]Re: Konkani Course

[Herman D'Souza]

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Ghoddeak udkachim passun vorot zalear faido nam
kiteak ghodeak tan lagot zalear-uch udok pieatolo 
nam zalear ghoddo, vho khoinchent zanvor vho munis
kosem udik pieatelem?

teka lagon zhe goeamkar konkani uloinam te, tankan
konkanichi tan dakonc zaie tednach te konkani xinkonc
etelet.

instead of criticizing them we should encourage them
to speak konkani.

As i had said in my previous mail that there are three
type of goans living in bombay

one who loves to proudly speak write and read konkani 
one who are ashamed to talk konkani in public
and one who has never come in contact with konkani

we should be proud of our language and no doubt we
have to speak english at business but whenever
opportunity permits we should openly speak konkani.

with best regards
Herman D'Souza

Re: [Goanet]Fw: Over 500 people attend Goan fest

[Herman D'Souza]

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Hi 

reference to this mail I can comment that there are
three types of Goan people who are residing in bombay

The first type are the ones who love to speak, read
and write konkani and they are very proud doing this

The second type are the ones who know konkani and as
eddie said shy to talk it openly in public, as they
prefer talking in english (as sometimes i have a
feeling they think that their value goes down when
they speak konkani openly)

and the third type of goans are the ones although they
have been born to goan parent(s), but for some reason
they have never been taught this beautiful language or
they may not be living in a environment where konkani
is being spoken.

I too am born and bred in bombay but i do love to
speak konkani openly and also all the other languages
with different type of friends and acquantances who
find it comfortable talking their language(s). but
when it comes to business terms, english of course is
the business language which has to be spoken.

my suggestion is if there are any goans interested to
learn konkani in bombay there should be konkani
courses conducted in bombay.  But the question is who
will come forward to conduct these konkani language
course? and will it be fruitful?

I hope you will like and accept my view points

DEU BOREM KORUN TUMCAM ANI GOEANKARAN MODEM MOG ANI
EKVOTPON SODANCH ASUNC

with regards
Herman D'Souza


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> Dear Friends,
> Below is the pvt mail I rvcd from one of the
> Goanetter from Mumbai
> in response to my posting of news item last month.
> 
> Well, I too was surprised to read that only 500
> attended the Goan fest.
> I am sure there are more than 2000 Goan families..in
> IC parish which
> has 20,000+ parishioners. In Jan this year I had
> taken my full family for
> Prince Jacob's 'Padri' in Borivili and I think over
> a 1000 goans watched the
> show and that too on weekday.
> 
> I do not agree with my friend that a high percentage
> of Goans in Mumbai
> do not know konkani. I know many goans in Mumbai who
> speak konkani
> at home but are shy to speak outside. My wife who is
> born and brought up
> in Mumbai can read and write konkani fluently...and
> I encourage my daughter
> also to speak konkani.
> 
> Can Fausto..(GRAF)...share his views on this.
> 
> Regards
> Eddie Verdes
> Chinchinim/Jeddah/KSA.
> 
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:16 AM
> Subject: Over 500 people attend Goan fest (Eddie)
> 
> 
> > Hello There Eddie!!!
> > This is regarding your news item on captioned
> subject and qoutes from
> > Dorothy Fernandes Resident of IC Colony "I have
> also attended the previous
> > shows held by GRAF. However, not many
> youngsters attend this
> > festival." & Mary Anne Rodrigues Resident of SV
> Road "I didn't attend the
> > show as all programmes are in Konkani. Since I
> don't speak the language at
> > home I find it difficult to understand.".
> >
> >From the quotes it's obvious that a high percentage
> of Goans young & old,
> > based in mumbai,DO NOT KNOW konkanni.Mangloreans
> have an extra
> > script(TULLU/KANARESE) and [yet/so] speak their
> language well, while Goans
> > speak english at home by force of habit? We need
> to encourage our youth to
> > be proud of our heritage, & learning to speak
> konkanni, is the FIRST STEP.
> > This is where you come in. I'm aure you can
> convince GRAF( read Fausto) to
> > conduct a crash course in konkanni speaking, at
> Borivali.Adults too could
> > join to brush up on their speech...A nominal fee
> could be charged GRAF
> > could introduce & increase sale of their konkanni
> CDs / Cassettes / Books/
> > Mags.. Maybe a club could follow, with
> book/magazines sharing
> > THINK ABOUT IT...You could PULL IT OFF.IT'S A
> WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR ALL.
> >
> 
>  


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RE: [debritto] tanggapan ttg Apa yang salah dengan kapitalisme?

[Herman Bhirawa]

Rekening Pundi Tulus: BCA 0050393615
a/n Bartholomeus Hari Dwi Nugroho 
~~~

Wah wah Mas, termasuk kategori hebat anda. Bisa jad eksekutif di
states.jelas bebas dari diskriminasi dalam pekerjaan. Saya gak tahu gimana
in general perlakuan terhadap non-native, mungkin lebih bagus dari negara2x
Eropa yang rata2x masih diskriminatif terhadap non-native dalam hal
pekerjaan(Karier).

Menurut pendapat saya, sebetulnya orang2x di indonesia itu kadang aneh juga,
menganggap bangsa putih(bule)itu lebih tinggi dari bangsanya sendiri. In
addition, mereka juga tidak mudah memberikan penghargaan kepada orang
terutama orang dari bangsa sendiri malah terkesima dengan buls**tnya orang
bule.

Britishprimate:  
Lha sekarang kalau dibalik, orang kita yang memutuskan untuk tinggal di
negerinya "bule" dinamakan apa? Kalau dibilang saya dulu minggat karena
"kalah saingan" di Indonesia memang banyak benarnya juga;etc

 

[Goanet]ST. XAVIER'S TOPS GOA UNIVERSITY RESULTS

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- From "St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science & Commerce" -

Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 11:34:57 +0530
From: "St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science & Commerce" 
Subject: For kind favour of publication


Dear Sir,

I  will be grateful  if you publish the enclosed in your issue and oblige.
With many thanks and kind regards,

Yours sincerely,

(Prof. Newman Fernandes)
Principal


 ST. XAVIER'S TOPS GOA UNIVERSITY RESULTS

Students of St. Xavier's College have done extremely well in  the
University  Exams  and secured First Rank for  TYBA,  TYBCom  and
TYBSc,  2004  exams.   Indeed,  it is for  the  first  time  that
students  of  these 3 streams have bagged first position  in  Goa
University results, in this College or any other college in Goa.

Ms.  Yolanda  Lobo  and  Ms. Ramona  Soares  obtained  the  first
position  in TYBCom with  538 marks each out of 700.  Ms.  Trupti
Chodankar secured the Third rank for the same exam with 533 marks
out  of 700.  Last year also, two students from our  College  had
shared the First rank and secured Third rank too.

Ms.  Yolanda Lobo is the daughter of Mr. Francisco Lobo  and  Ms.
Patty  Lobo  from  Calangute.   She  is  a  distinction   student
throughout her academic career.  She  has participated in several
contests and her performance has been always extremely good.  She
is  going  to pursue a career in Management at Goa  Institute  of
Management Studies for which she has already been selected.   She
wants to specialise in Finance.

Ms.  Ramona  Soares  is  a  very  popular  sportswoman  and   has
represented  the College in many sports disciplines.  She is  the
daughter of Mr. Roque Soares and Ms. Elsa Soares from Caranzalem.
She  takes active part in cricket, table tennis,  basketball  and
handball.  She intends to become a Company Secretary.

Yolanda  and Ramona represented the College at the  South  Indian
Level  Business  Contest  ACME 2003 held in  Mangalore  and  were
exposed to what is happening elsewhere in India.

Ms. Trupti Chodankar is very hard working student and hails  from
Colvale  and  is the daughter of Mr. Dinanath Chodankar  and  Ms.
Pushpavati Chodankar.  Her hobbies include reading, gardening and
tailoring and she aspires to be Company Secretary.

Ms.  Natasha Braganca secured First Rank for TYBA  obtaining  557
marks  out of 700.  Her specialisation papers were Economics  and
Psychology.   She  is  the  grand daughter  of  the  famous  poet
Nascimento Mendonca.  She is the daughter of Mr. Roy Braganza and
Ms.  Halina  Braganca  and hails from Mapusa.  She  was  born  in
Berlin  and  has just proceeded to Dubai where she  received  the
news of her excellent performance with great joy.  She plays  the
keyboards with a rare perfection and is the member of the  family
singing group.

Ms. Faminda D'Souza had the privilege of securing First Rank with
618 marks out of 700 at the TYBSc examination with specialisation
in  Computer  Science.   Her performance  has  been  constant  at
Distinction  level  throughout  her  academic  career  just  like
Natasha.   She is the daughter of Mr. Francisco D'Souza  and  Ms.
Eudes  D'Souza from Calangute.  She is proactive and was  crowned
as MISS XAVIER for the year 2003-2004.

This   is  an  extraordinary   event  where  there  has  been   a
convergence  of  ranks  at St. Xavier's.  All  these  5  students
attribute  their  success  to hard work,  God's  grace,  parents'
guidance  and  teachers' support.  They vouch for  the  role  the
College  has played in terms of creating a conducive  environment
for their all round development.

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[Goanet]Goans in Singapore?

[Herman Carneiro]

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 01:51:21 +
From: george d'costa
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Dear Herman
Thanks for the mail. I live in Singapore and have not seen many goans. I was 
wondering if you have any goan subscribers from Singapore and if there is an 
association of sorts over here.

Regards
George D'Costa



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[Goanet]BOOK ON GOA RELEASED IN DELHI from Brian Mendonca

[Herman]

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Date: 23 Apr 2004 21:04:13 -
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 Subject: BOOK ON GOA RELEASED IN DELHI
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  (Delhi News Feed by Dr Brian Mendonça in Delhi)

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Book Release in Delhi

Goa: A Daughter’s Story by Maria Couto



      ‘We have our language, our State. We have to recover our soul.’ – Maria 
Couto



It seemed like the Kala Academy, Miramar, for the sprinkling of Goans gathered 
at the India International Centre, New Delhi on 22 April 2004, for a discussion 
to mark the publication of Maria Couto’s book Goa: A Daughter’s Story.  At the 
end of 2 hours of forays into aspects of Goanness by the panelists, it was more 
easily possible to see the Goan as a product of ones unique historical 
circumstances, quite apart from the Indian mainland. After all, wasn’t it 
Panditji who said ‘Goa ke log ajeeb heh.’ ?



Taking off from stereotypes of Goa – rave parties, skirts at the Republic Day 
parades, and beaches -- the speakers meandered from the genesis and inspiration 
for the book (Couto), why the BJP is in power in Goa (Rajdeep Sardessai), the 
popular notion of what Goan Christians are like (Shobhana Bhattacharjee) and 
the Common law code vs the civil law code in Goa (Fali Nariman).  Dilip 
Padgaonkar who chaired, provided nuggets like what Bakibab Borkar said should 
be done after he died -‘Throw my body into the sea. For all my life I have 
eaten fish. Now let them eat me.’



Couto’s canvas is large i.e. from 1510, when Afonso de Albuquerque conquered 
Goa to the present. She dwelt on the shaping influences on her by Bakibab 
Borkar and Pissurelekar in the 60’s and the latter’s haunting words ‘Amchem 
kanni boroi.’ (Write our story).  Goa: A Daughter’s Story is about the author 
finding her own voice apart from, as she puts it ‘my husband’s wife and my 
father’s daughter.’ Knitting her memoirs across Bihar, Delhi and Dharwar, Couto 
understandably finds her peace in Aldona, where she finds the quintessence of 
the Goan personality i.e. where Goans live in harmony, united by shared 
traditions and a common language. She has also dealt sensitively with the issue 
of conversions. ‘It is only when we comprehend our past, can we go beyond it.’  
As Rajdeep eloquently observed, written at a time when secularists feel there 
is no hope the book tells us that in its microcosm ‘Goa provides the perfect 
example why the idea of India will endure.’ And it is not for this reason alone 
that Nehru’s Discovery of India needs to be read, remarked Fali.



Rajdeepalso mentioned other stereotypes associated with Goa like ‘fish, feni 
and football,’ what Goan catholics used to be called in Bombay, i.e. ‘maka 
paus’ and ‘put through’ after what they used to say while asking their mates to 
pass the ball to them while playing football. The BJP is in Goa more because of 
the moral bankruptcy of the Congress and the erosion of MGP’s ideology than 
anything else, he said. Shobhana said we need to move away from the stereotype 
of the (Bombay) Goan-Catholic girl who says – ‘Hum God se ek wish maangta 
heh.’  A scratch poll which Rajdeep conducted revealed that 8 out of 10 thought 
Christianity was the dominant religion in Goa. (Christians only comprise 23-
30%). This too is a stereotype because of the myth-making and promotion Goa is 
subject too. Rajdeep was even asked how he could be a Goan since his name was 
neither Gonsalves nor D’Souza!  Fali praised Couto for her lucid style and for 
retaining the ‘dignity of history’ a phrase by Thucydides. He quoted 
Rajgopalachari censure of the ‘liberation’ action in 1962 and Will Durant’s 
rhetorical questioning of the decline of Portugal after Magellan.  Discover the 
river, Couto advises, in Goa. It is in its eddies we discover our true selves.



                                        -Dr Brian Mendonca

                                          New Delhi



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[Goanet]Dear Godfrey Gonsalves Re: Archbishop's Installation, yet again!

[Herman]

- Forwarded message from "J. Loiola Pereira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:07:25 +0530
From: "J. Loiola Pereira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "J. Loiola Pereira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: Dear Godfrey Gonsalves Re: Archbishop's Installation, yet again!
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My dear Friend, 

 

At the risk of boring our readers, I feel compelled to return to this forum on 
the above subject. The only reason, again, is to safeguard the truth. 
Incidentally, safeguarding the truth was the only motive of my initial response 
to your Report on the Installation of the new Archbishop of Goa. I had no 
reasons to antagonize you, although I admit that the only COMMENT  I made 
(about your use of the non-existing word "penital") might have been uncalled 
for. I apologize for it. The other submissions were only CORRECTIONS of 
factually wrong reporting, with some extra pieces of information thrown in . as 
a bonus.

 

For brevity sake, I will tackle only three points dealt with by you in 
your "Clarification by Gonsalves," dated 3rd instant. And, this time, please 
forgive my language! 

 

1. Godfrey: "Much of what has been clarified   in this report by Fr Pereira 
ought to have come out by way of proper arrangements viz; a running commentary 
or a detailed programme circulated before hand to all not as a post mortem 
report." . "There was no commentator ---to narrate either in Konkani or 
English ---the sequence of events .. Many did not know what was happening  The 
brief itenary (sic) was in short supply"



REPLY: First part: A Commentator (Fr. Simon Fernandes) was permanently posted 
at a mike stand and he gave an excellent commentary of the whole Liturgy, 
specifying WHO was doing WHAT at different points of time. I see now that Fr. 
Simon's only fault was that he spoke in Konkani, a language that perhaps Mr. 
Gonsalves does not understand.  In any case, no reporter would have stated 
that "there was no commentator ---to narrate either in Konkani or English ---
the sequence of events" - unless he/she was stone deaf!  Second part: A 
detailed programme was handed over to all the journalists/media persons who 
took care in contacting our Diocesan Communications Centre (Fr. Olavo) well in 
advance, and not just before the ceremony, as Gonsalves seems to have done. In 
fact, the Centre held a press conference three days before the event. That is 
how all the local newspapers that morning (even before the celebration had 
begun) specified that the Nuncio (and not Abp. Raul Gonsalves) would lead the 
new Archbishop to his chair and that Fr. Jose Remedios Fernandes (and not Fr. 
Rodrigues) would read the Papal Bull. If Godfrey had only read the papers that 
morning!

 

2. Godfrey: "One could not decipher whether "presence" near the only celebrant 
is different from being main celebrants."

 

REPLY: The "concelebrated sung High Mass" took place at an altar placed a few 
feet away from the vantage point where Mr. Gonsalves says he was posted, behind 
the Chief Minister. (By the way, that was not the place allotted to the media 
persons!). And the Nuncio was at his seat far behind, near the old altar table. 
The Nuncio, therefore, was nowhere "near the only celebrant." Besides, since 
the Mass was in Konkani, rendered in the clear and unmistakable voice of the 
new Archbishop, even a blind man would not have thought, much less reported, 
that the Nuncio - a Spaniard -- was the main celebrant!

 

3. Godfrey: "Tabernacles as a rule are always at the centre == correct me if I 
am wrong -- that this one was on the left is news to me - I have never been on 
a guided tour of the Se Cathedral." 

 

REPLY: In a confusing third paragraph of his report, Godfrey states that the 
dignitaries were led  "to the Blessed Sacrament Chapel." The statement is true. 
But, if this was a real eyewitness report, Gonsalves must have seen that the 
Tabernacle in the Cathedral is not 'at the centre,' but on the left side of the 
nave. (More than once, the thought crossed my mind that Godfrey could have 
prepared his Report from the comfort of an easy chair in his living room, while 
following a live telecast of the ceremony or with the help of a 
brief "itenary,"  whatever he means by that!)

 

COMMENTS: 

 

1. It is interesting to note that, in his initial report, dated March 23, 
Gonsalves lavishes kudos on Fr. Olavo Velho Pereira when he writes: "Fr. Olav 
Velho Pereira (and others) deserve full praise for their flawless organisation 
of the three hour function."   The same "Fr. Olav" becomes now an easy 
scapegoat for Godfrey's sins of omission! Incidentally, I have mailed to Fr. 
Olavo a copy of Gonsalves' last posting on the Installation. And I have 
arranged that my present posting goes just ahead of the reply Fr. Olavo intends 
to send to Goanet, for our readers' easy cross-reference.

 

2. The seven points I chose to correct in my earlier posting of March 26 are 
only 50% of the f

[Goanet]Kalia is not forgotten from Miguel Braganza

[Herman]

- Forwarded message from Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 19:26:25 +0530
From: Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: Kalia is not forgotten
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It is nice to see that the little boy who died beneat the Margao garbage truck 
has not yet been forgotten in the din of IFFI. It is gratifying to see at least 
one newspaper front page the images of the poignant 'Memorial' march through 
Panaji . On 30 April it will be a month since he needlessly lost his life. In 
the meanwhile, to the street children, 'Apna Ghar' continue to be two four-
letter words. Can we change life for them?

Viva Goa.
Miguel  


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[Goanet]SPORT: India claim historic win (Cricket)

[Herman Carneiro]

Third Test, Rawalpindi, day four:
Pakistan 224 & 245 lost to India 600 by an innings and 131 runs

India secured a historic first series win in Pakistan after strolling to
victory by an innings and 131 runs in the third Test in Rawalpindi.

Anil Kumble cleaned up the tail to return 4-47 as the hosts were
dismissed for 245 soon after lunch. 

Asim Kamal struck a brave 60 not out despite batting with an injured
elbow.

The verdict sees Sourav Ganguly move ahead of Mohammad Azharuddin as
India's most successful Test captain with 15 victories.

It also capped India's first series win away from home since they
defeated Sri Lanka 1-0 in a three-Test series in 1993.

The hosts, 49-2 overnight, put on 148 for the loss of five wickets in an
eventful first session, with Lakshmipathy Balaji striking twice to
return 3-108.

They slumped to 95-4 before Kamal, who took a pain-killing injection at
the crease to treat an injured elbow, put on 81 for the sixth wicket
with Yousuf Youhana, who made 48.

Enough action was crammed into the first hour of play to befit a full
day's play, with three wickets, six dropped catches and an array of
curious strokeplay all potential highlights material.

The fireworks started in the first over, with nightwatchman Kamran Akmal
hitting Balaji for three boundaries and still finding time to be given a
life by a snoozing first and second slip.

The normally ultra-reliable Yuvraj Singh then dropped the easiest chance
he will ever get at forward short-leg, but Kamal ran out of lives in the
third over when Balaji uprooted his off-stump.

Pakistan's predicament required some prudence, but Yasir Hameed was
having none of it, offering two chances - to Sachin Tendulkar and Anil
Kumble - which India politely spilled.

Ironically, it required a catch of true quality to remove him, keeper
Parthiv Patel taking a one-handed gem down the leg-side in Ashish
Nehra's one-over first spell.

Skipper Inzamam-ul-Haq, who pledged to lead Pakistan out of the mire
after play on the third day, was given an early life by Rahul Dravid in
first slip off the luckless Balaji.

But he soon went - reducing the hosts to a parlous 94-5 - faintly edging
Balaji to Patel and walking, despite umpire Rudi Koertzen looking
motionless before offering a raised finger.

Pakistan looked set for a quick death with two new batsmen at the
crease, but Youhana and Kamal showed some welcome fight.

The sixth-wicket pair traded largely in boundaries, taking the score
along to 175 and offering the home crowd some hope.

That hope disappeared with the dismissal of Youhana, caught and bowled
by Kumble.

The leg-spinner found himself on a hat-trick in his next over after
having Mohammad Sami caught by Dravid for a first-ball duck.

Shoaib Akhtar swung hard at the ball for a streaky boundary down to
third-man, and kept swinging to take 18 runs off the over before
Pakistan lunched on 197-7.

The end soon came after the break, with Shoaib and Fazl-e-Akbar falling
to Kumble to take the leg-spinner's career haul to 397 wickets.

Indian players were sent into rapturous celebrations when Tendulkar's
removal of Danish Kaneria, caught by Ganguly, ended the match.






Pakistan: Inzamam-ul-Haq (captain), Imran Farhat, Taufeeq Umar, Yasir
Hameed, Yousuf Youhana, Asim Kamal, Kamran Akmal, Mohammad Sami, Shoaib
Akhtar, Danish Kaneria, Fazl-e-Akbar. 

India: Sourav Ganguly (captain), Virender Sehwag, Rahul Dravid, Sachin
Tendulkar, VVS Laxman, Yuvraj Singh, Parthiv Patel, Irfan Pathan,
Lakshmipathy Balaji, Anil Kumble, Ashish Nehra. 

Umpires: David Shepherd (ENG), Rudi Koertzen (RSA)


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/3631293.stm

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[Goanet]Fwd: Apollo NUSI Hospital address phone # from Gabe Menezes

[Herman]

- Forwarded message from Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:45:33 +0100
From: Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: Apollo NUSI Hospital address phone #
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have been inundated with requests for the address, so I am putting this on 
Goanet so that it will be available on Google too!

Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.


Subject: Re: Address and telephone contact..




The hospital address is as follows:
Apollo NUSI Hospitals & Research Centre,
Panzorconi Cuncolim
Salcete - Goa
403703

You may contact the frontoffice on the following nos.
91-0832-2862903/04/05/52/53

Emergency : 91-0832-286




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[Goanet]Fwd: Caju Feni by Salus Correia

[Herman]

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:38:33 +1000
From: Salus Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: Caju Feni
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello Joseph, 

I have read your article about caju feni with interest!  Well I do feel sorry 
for you and your precious liver which bore the brunt of your search for good 
caju feni! 

I left Goa in 1999, and for some years before that was professionally in the 
purchasing line.  While working for a company that manufactured after shave 
lotions and colognes in Goa, it was my job to procure large amounts of 
rectified spirit for our products.  At that time, the sale of rectified spirit 
was controlled by the government, and we were issued permits which were dished 
out as favours, at the discretion of the concerned minister for industries, who 
used to convene meetings of all bulk alcohol consumers to discuss forecasts 
etc.   

The first time I attended one such meeting, I was shocked to find that I was 
surrounded by the liquor barons!  And I managed to have a chat with Mr 
Shirodkar, from Agencia Real that day.  I enquired as to why he and the other 
barons wanted so much of rectified spirit.  His reply to me still rings in my 
ears:  Baba re, feniac re.  Portuguese tempar dongrar cazu asleat ani te 
zaddamchem cuidad ghetale dongorkar.  Atamchem tempar, mele te dongorkarachem 
ani tanche bhurge.  Dongor padd assa, punn feni piupe dha vantenim chodlea! 

And he went on to tell me how they manage to procure small quantities of 
genuine caju feni from their sources, and how they used that small quantity as 
the essence with rectified spirit.  And he also told me how some unscrupulous 
manufacturers made caju feni which was 100 per cent rectified spirit, with caju 
essence manufactured by some Bombay chemical essence companies!  Apparently 
that is the cheap feni that seems to flow in the bars in Goa today.  So it 
should not be a surprise if you find feni substandard etc.  Good feni is good, 
and does not give you the side effects that you mentioned. 

Fortunately, there are still some good sources of caju feni in Goa.  I like the 
feni distilled by the priests at the SVD monastery at Raia, and also from the 
Salesian farm at Sulcurna.  Maybe you could try this stuff, and see the 
difference for yourself.  These priests use some modern techniques for crushing 
the fruit and also for distillation.  And that does make a lot of a difference, 
considering hygienic conditions etc... 

Enjoy your feni!!! 
Regards, 
Salus Correia

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[Goanet]Looking for Goans in Bolivia

[Herman]

- Forwarded message from Ana & Walter <> -
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:31:09 -0400
From: Ana & Walter 
Reply-To: Ana & Walter 
 Subject: From Walter Gomes


Dear Herman,

We are, by the way, Now based in Bolivia in La Paz. I shall be visiting
Uruguay much more often, and would like to have the address of any Goans
there or in Bolivia. (I have the impression that there is one goan doctor
in Montevideo, but I could be mistaken)

Many Thanks and Best regards
Walter Gomes


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Re: [Goanet]REMO FERNANDES IN KUWAIT.

[Herman D'Souza]

Hi

I am very happy that REMO FERNANDES is visiting
Kuwait. We are basically from vagallim and siolim and
we feel very proud when we see a REMO, a icon of
(Siolim) GOA in the Gulf. I wish he would visit other
parts of the Gulf to give all the Goans present here
the personal touch of his music and great voice. I
know for a fact that he is not interested to come to
Saudi Arabia where we are based, however i wish he
would come to bahrain

ALL THE VERY BEST TO REMO. MAY GOD BLESS GOA ALWAYS
AND ALL THE GOANS IN GOA AND ALL PART OF INDIA, MIDDLE
EAST AND IN THE WORLD.

Herman D'Souza
Saudi Arabia


 --- "A. Veronica Fernandes"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > REMO FERNANDES IN
KUWAIT.
> 
> One of the renowned Indian songsters Remo Fernandes
> from Siolim Bardez Goa 
> will visit Kuwait to participate in the grand
> Concert organized and 
> presented by “IN-SAS” i.e. Indian Society of
> Aviation Staff.  One of the 
> objectives of IN-SAS is to promote art and culture
> and in view of this they 
> are organizing this Concert on 6th February 2004 at
> Indian Arts Circle, 
> Funaitees starting at 06.30 pm. The Concert will
> consist of variety of items 
> but main feature will be Remo and his troupe
> consisting of 6 members and 
> devoting 90 minutes.  Hence, audience can expect a
> feast of entertainment 
> from Remo who will perform live with live music. 
> The audience will surely 
> consists of metropolitan crowd from different
> segments of society.  Remo is 
> expected to sing some of his best songs and render
> best of his items to 
> satisfy the tastes of different people.  This being
> Remo’s first visit to 
> liberated Kuwait, earlier he came to Kuwait twice,
> surely lot of attention 
> will be focused on his performance. Some of his
> strong fans are eagerly 
> awaiting seeing Remo in action.
> 
> Remo Fernandes is a pride of Goa.  My last encounter
> with him was at Sangeet 
> Samelan a year back at Margao where a sea of
> humanity came just to see and 
> listen to his wonderful performance along with his
> pure Goan musicians.  His 
> item was scheduled originally at 9.00 on the second
> and last day but due to 
> sudden delay it started at about 11.00 p.m. and went
> beyond 1.00 early in 
> the morning and yet not a single soul left
> consisting of thousands of 
> audience.  He was at his forte on the Flute which he
> plays superbly. His 
> greatness lies not only in being a great artiste
> only but also being a great 
> lover of his land, language, culture and tradition
> which magnetized his feet 
> to his ancestral village Siolim which is the biggest
> constituency of Bardez.
> 
> A few months back when he celebrated his golden
> birth anniversary at Panjim 
> yet again a sea of humanity attended his show and
> applauded him fabulously 
> and of course deservingly.  A linguist par
> excellence, Remo sings in 
> different languages and that too to the satisfaction
> of all.  His fans 
> include top personalities from different segments of
> society.  The most 
> staunch fan of his was the late Prime Minister of
> India Rajiv Gandhi for 
> whom he even dedicated one of his beautiful songs –
> Hello Rajiv Gandhi.
> 
> Coming from the musically conscious village of Goa,
> Siolim that has got 
> unique distinction of producing some of the topmost
> artistes of Goa such as 
> musicians, singers and dramatists, in Remos veins
> runs the music,  not only 
> Pop but also other types. His father Bernardo
> Fernandes was the great 
> proponent and promoter of Goan Folk Songs such as
> Mandos, Dulpods and 
> Dheknis.  In fact soon after Portuguese rule ended
> in Goa, Remo’s Father Mr. 
> Bernardo Fernandes was one of the main persons
> instrumental in initiating 
> Mando Festivals in Goa at Panjim and since then till
> today Mando Festival is 
> going strong thereby giving solid impetus to the
> promotion of Goan Folklore. 
>   In appreciation of this contribution, for Mando
> Festival especial award is 
> instituted in the name of Remo’s father for best
> Mando in the original 
> category.  Remo Fernandes inherit abundant musical
> talent from his father.
> 
> On behalf of all the like minded Goans and also the
> lovers of Remo’s musical 
> art, I welcome Remo Fernandes to Kuwait for 6th
> February Show and wish him 
> all the success.  I also wish the organizers all the
> best and total success 
> in their endeavour in organizing such a mega show.
> 
> Those interested in attending this show, kindly
> contact the organizers as 
> early as possible so as not to miss the entry passes
> at the last minute.
> 
> A. Veronica Fernandes,
> Kuwait.
> 
>

[Goanet]Death Announcement - Olympio Carvalho

[Herman Carneiro]

Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala 
Academy canteen). See you there!
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The death has occurred of Olympio Carvalho of Etobicoke, Canada, on
Saturday December 20th 2003.  Olympio lived in Nairobi, Kenya, before
emigrating. He is survived by his wife, Bertha, and his children,
Kathleen, Richard and Joanna.

Viewing

Monday and Tuesday, 7-9pm both nights; at Turner and Porter Funeral Home
in Etobicoke (NOT the one in Mississauga). The address is 4933 Dundas
Street West, near Islington station. 416-231-2283.

Funeral

The funeral mass will be held on Wednesday December 24th at 11am at
Nativity of Our Lord Catholic Church, located at 480 Rathburn Rd.
416-621-2732. The mass will be followed by a reception at the church
itself. As Olympio will be a cremated, there will be no burial/cemetery
service.

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[Goanet][Fwd: Urgent - need address for ST. FRANCIS XAVIER'S GIRL'S HIGH SCHOOL Mapusa]

[Herman Carneiro]

I'd appreciate it if someone could please help Lovelyn Dias retrieve the
address of ST. FRANCIS XAVIER'S GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL in Mapusa.

- Herman


 Original Message 
Subject: Urgent
From:"Lovelyn Dias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello!
My name is Lovelyn Dias.  I have an urgent request.  I have been to your
website but it is under construction, hence I am sending you this mail and
I hope you will be able to help me out. I am looking for the address of a
school in Mapusa by name of ST. FRANCIS XAVIER'S GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL (SCHOOL
+ BOARDING) - Dular for my daughter and hence I request you to please send
me the address if you have. Would appreciate receiving an early reply from
you.
Kind regards,
Lovelyn Dias



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[Goanet][Fwd: information on goan community activities] - from Patricia D'Cruz

[Herman Carneiro]

 Original Message 
Subject: information on goan community activities
From:"Patricia D'cruz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:Thu, December 4, 2003 1:17 am
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am a reporter with the Daily Star and am looking to cover the Indian
community cultural activities in Kuwait. I would appreciate a telephone
number along with details of the person i could contact, who could help me
with the above. Please do get in touch with me.

Thank u



I am a reporter with the Daily Star and am looking 
to cover the Indian community cultural activities in Kuwait. I would appreciate 
a telephone number along with details of the person i could contact, who could 
help me with the above. Please do get in touch with me.
 
Thank u

[Goanet]New England Goans Christmas Dance

[Herman Carneiro]

The NEW ENGLAND GOANS COMMITTEE

Warmly invites you to their annual CHRISTMAS DINNER DANCE

Saturday, December 13th, 2003
St. James Church Hall
900 Worcester Road (Rte 9), Wellesley, MA

Dress: Formal

Time: 6PM- 12AM

Santa will arrive at 6:15 p.m.

Each parent to provide their own gifts for presenting by Santa. Parents of
children under 6 years of age who would like them to receive a present
form Santa, should kindly bring a wrapped gift (no more than $10.00 value)
and hand it over to a committee member by 6:00 p.m.

Beverages: Soft Drinks will be provided.

Alcoholic drinks will not be available and are your own responsibility

ENJOY LIVE MUSIC AND SUMPTUOUS GOAN CUISINE

__

Tickets Cost:

General Admissions   $35
Students and Retiree's   $25
Children (6-15yr.)   $15

INFANTS and Children under 5 yrs: FREE OF CHARGE

The Hall has an 'Infant Changing Room and Feeding Space'

For ticket information email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

__

DEADLINE FOR TICKET SALES IS DECEMBER 5, 2003

140 max admittance allowed excluding kids 5 and below.

Cut Off date is Dec 5th or 1st 140 tickets sold.

No sale of tickets at the door.

__

For More Information, Please Contact any of the Committee members for this
Year's event:

Benegal & Debbie Pereira; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manu & Fatima Pinto;  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Francis & Cecilia Fernandes; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deepa Santhumayor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Goanet]Goanet Membership Rules

[Herman Carneiro]

We at Goanet Administration would like to take this opportunity to thank
all of our members for their continued respectful discourse on issues that
are of common interest. We believe that Goanet is uniquely
qualified to offer a venue for communication on varied issues. In a
continuing effort to ensure that this forum remains respectful, we will
take this opportunity to repost The Rules and Guidelines. Please direct
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1. Do not use foul or abusive language.

2. Do not engage in personal attacks. In other words, no name-calling.

3. Spam is not tolerated on this list. Goanet treats repeated postings,
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spam. If you're quoting an earlier post, quote the minimum.

4. Do not send attachments or images with your message; text files should
not be sent as an attachment, rather, copy the text into your message.

5. Use your real name as the Sender, not an alias.

6. Use a meaningful Subject Line.

7. Do not post messages in HTML or MIME formats, i.e. no bold, italics,
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8. If you are copying a post from a website, post a brief description of
what you would like to communicate and include the URL address.

9. Do not post advertisements. Commercial postings have to be paid for if
circulated via Goanet. The Goanet Admin?s decisions on all matters are
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10. Once a particular discussion is declared "closed" by the Goanet Admin
Team, anyone continuing that discussion is likely to face action. Every
effort will be made to keep discussions democratic, free and open, but
when a topic goes on endlessly in circles or threatens to transgress
decent debate, or for any similar reasons, the Admin Team will be
empowered to declare that discussion "closed."

A violation of any of the rules will result in a reprimand. Subsequent
violations could result in suspended or terminated membership. The
decision to suspend or terminate membership will be a function of the
severity and frequency of the breaches.


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b. Keep your message brief.

c. Do not forward private email to the list without permission from the
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[Goanet][Fwd: Trying to Locate a friend] - Justino Lobo

[Herman Carneiro]

 Original Message 
Subject: Trying to Locate a friend
From:"Tony Lobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:Sun, October 19, 2003 4:10 pm
To:  "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi,
Am trying to get in contact with Justino Lobo used to be staying
In Calangute, Cobra Vado. Should anybody know his address of even
E-mail kindly contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

Tony Lobo




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Re: [Goanet]Christianity's Similarities with Islam

[Herman D'Souza]

Hello Tariq

I am a bit surprised how do you believe in Jesus
Christ being yourself a muslim.. or am i wrong??? as i
understand islam honours mohammed as the last prophet
and jesus as one of the prophets.  am i correct.
please shed some light on this. reason is i myself
being a roman catholic, i know many similiarities
between islam, christianity and judaism, which are all
connected religions. I respect all religions as they
all believe in God, including hinduism, sikhism, etc.
and they all teach good values of humanity. please
clarify

Herman D'Souza


 --- Tariq Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> --- Gregory Gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dear Brothers/sisters,
> > 
> > There is only one God and definetly there is only
> one
> > truth and that truth is Christ Jesus, who was
> existing
> > at the time of creation (Jesus said I am the first
> and
> > the last "Alpha and Omega". 
> > 
> > One can say this only if he/she is not aware about
> the
> > truth (that is the Word of God - BIBLE).
> > 
> > I pray that you will read the Bible which will set
> you
> > free, and one can have salvation ONLY THROUGH
> JESUS
> > who is there to come for the second time.
> 
> I don't believe you.
> 
> -Tariq
> 
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[Goanet]Goanet Membership Rules

[Herman Carneiro]

We at Goanet Administration would like to take this opportunity to thank
all of our members for their continued respectful discourse on issues that
are of common interest. We believe that Goanet is uniquely
qualified to offer a venue for communication on varied issues. In a
continuing effort to ensure that this forum remains respectful, we will
take this opportunity to repost The Rules and Guidelines. Please direct
comments and suggestions to Goanet Administration at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please note that membership to this discussion group is provided FREE of
charge. In the event any person soliciting a financial contribution for
membership to the List approaches you, please report the incident to the
List's administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RULES

1. Do not use foul or abusive language.

2. Do not engage in personal attacks. In other words, no name-calling.

3. Spam is not tolerated on this list. Goanet treats repeated postings,
commercial posts, lengthy reposts of an earlier posting, among others, as
spam. If you're quoting an earlier post, quote the minimum.

4. Do not send attachments or images with your message; text files should
not be sent as an attachment, rather, copy the text into your message.

5. Use your real name as the Sender, not an alias.

6. Use a meaningful Subject Line.

7. Do not post messages in HTML or MIME formats, i.e. no bold, italics,
colored text, etc. Rather, format your emails in plain text only.

8. If you are copying a post from a website, post a brief description of
what you would like to communicate and include the URL address.

9. Do not post advertisements. Commercial postings have to be paid for if
circulated via Goanet. The Goanet Admin?s decisions on all matters are
final.

10. Once a particular discussion is declared "closed" by the Goanet Admin
Team, anyone continuing that discussion is likely to face action. Every
effort will be made to keep discussions democratic, free and open, but
when a topic goes on endlessly in circles or threatens to transgress
decent debate, or for any similar reasons, the Admin Team will be
empowered to declare that discussion "closed."

A violation of any of the rules will result in a reprimand. Subsequent
violations could result in suspended or terminated membership. The
decision to suspend or terminate membership will be a function of the
severity and frequency of the breaches.


GUIDELINES

a. Post material which is relevant to Goan communities worldwide.

b. Keep your message brief.

c. Do not forward private email to the list without permission from the
author.

d. If you face a problem with another member, bring the complaint to
Goanet Administration at [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than to the list.

e. Use civil language and a polite tone in all your discussions.


TIPS

i. Use a "smiley" to indicate a lighthearted comment, e.g. =) :-) B^)

ii. New members might want to observe how the list works before posting,
or can check out the archives at:

http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/

iii. Pay attention to where your reply is going - do you really want the
entire list to receive your message, or would you rather limit the
audience?

iv. Post a brief profile of yourself to the list as soon as possible after
joining.

v. If you have problems with the volume of mail, shift to the
Goanet-Digest. You will receive one to three e-mails a day depending on
the list?s activity. To join Goanet-Digest contact Goanet Administration
at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


WE NEED YOUR HELP!

1. Publicize the existence of the Lists.

2. Volunteer your time. Goanet is a volunteer-driven organization.

3. Encourage the newer and silent members to post to these Lists.

4. Send us the email addresses of people who might be interested in
joining these Lists - we will not include them unless they agree to be
part of Goanet or Goanet-Digest.

5. GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK - we appreciate all comments, complaints and
bouquets. You can reach us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Many thanks to our volunteers for all their hard work:

Bosco D'Mello (email formatting, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Vincente Fernandes (birthdays and anniversaries, [EMAIL PROTECTED])


Goanet Administration Team:

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Re: [Goanet]Land to the Owner's Act

[Herman D'Souza]

I still cannot understand how can a government issue
this land to the tiller act. does that mean tomorrow
they can also issue some other act to throw us out
from our houses? was this act issued by the congress?
due their mismanagement of certain rules and laws
according to their whims and wishes congress has lost
power. can anyone tell me how can we revert this land
to the tiller law so we can get the land which
rightfully belongs to us? 


 --- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
More than a couple of decades ago the MGP government
> in power decided to implement a draconian and
> treachrous act called Land to the Tiller. In a
> single
> swipe many Goans lost their lands to the tillers.
> This
> was one of the several measures conducted by this
> sectarian government in order to get votes. The
> results were that the tillers became bhatcars. Later
> it was believed that these lands were sold to
> builders. Who are the tillers today? It is the
> indian
> migrants who come across the borders to Goa. Will
> they
> be the new bhatcars? 
> 
> Isn't it time that Goans get back their rightful
> land?
> Does any body know about the evacuee property issue?
> 
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[Goanet]Fwd: Chris and Lorna in 3 parts - Request for Information

[Herman Carneiro]

 Original Message 
Subject: Chris and Lorna in 3 parts
From:"Neville Mascarenhas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hello, I read Naresh Fernandes' 3 part series on Chris and Lorna. I lived
through many of the events that he covers and remember the names very
well. I left Bombay in 1960 after spending several years through St.
Xavier's High School and then St. Xavier's College. I would like to ask
Naresh a question or two. Do have his e-mail address? Thank you. Neville
Mascarenhas




Hello, I read Naresh Fernandes' 3 part series on 
Chris and Lorna. I lived through many of the events that he covers and 
remember the names very well. I left Bombay in 1960 after spending several years 
through St. Xavier's High School and then St. Xavier's College. I would 
like to ask Naresh a question or two. Do have his e-mail address? Thank you. 
Neville Mascarenhas

[Goanet]MAILBOX OVERFLOWING? SWITCH TO Goanet DIGEST!

[Herman Carneiro]

MAILBOX OVERFLOWING? SWITCH TO Goanet DIGEST!


If you are feeling overwhelmed by the volume of Goanet posts, but want to
be sure you don't miss anything, try one of our Digests.  These are daily
compilations of the unabridged posts, which come with a list of contents
at the top which you can quickly scan to see what interests you.

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[Goanet]Dengue fever claims 8 year old Ponda girl

[Herman Carneiro]

[5] India (Goa)
Date: Sun 14 Sep 2003
Source: Navhind Times Sun 14 Sep 2003 [edited]



Dengue fever claims 8 year old Ponda girl
-
An 8 year old girl succumbed in Manipal Hospital recently. The hospital 
authorities certified the death as due to dengue. However, the health 
authorities in the state denied the existence of dengue disease in the 
state. The Goa Medical College (GMC) superintendent Dr Rajan
Kuncolienkar said no patient suffering from dengue fever has been
admitted to GMC hospital.



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Re: [Goanet]Many Happy Returns of the Day - Herman[Scanned]

[Herman Carneiro]

Many thanks for the birthday wishes Joe.

Sincerely,

- Herman


> Dear Herman Carneiro,
>
> Just want to wish you happy bithday.
>
> And thanks for the Goanet.
>
> JoeGoaUk
>
>
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[Goanet]Request for Information - Worldwide Sunshine School (Goa)

[Herman Carneiro]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: With thanks for respons
From:"Angela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Dear Sir,
I contacted goanet in May last about address for centres for learning
disabilities in Goa and would like to thank those kind people who replied
to me on behalf of myself and my son Adam who suffered brain damage some
years ago now. I have read of the Worldwide Sunshine School in Goa - would
you have a possible postal or e-mail address for this school? My e-mail
address is as follows:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
With Warmest Regards,
Angela Badr

P.S. Anyone with an interest in learning disability in India: I should
really like to correspond with - I live in England with my son



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[Goanet]Closing discussion on topic: Goa v/s Other Portuguese colonies...

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Goanetters,

The topic being debated on "Goa v/s Other Portuguese colonies..." is being
closed. The subject has changed during the course of discussion.

The discussion is being closed because it is flaring up and becoming more
of a personal issue between those debating.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Sincerely,

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[Goanet][Fwd: Inquiry]

[Herman Carneiro]

 Original Message 
Subject: Inquiry
From:"Agnelo Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:Sat, September 6, 2003 4:01 pm
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--


Dear Goanet
Is there any Goan working in France can tell me where can I find a IATA
Travel agents email address. Or how do you'll make your travel
arrangements when you'll book your flight to Goa or Mumbai? Please advice
as I am first time going for my vacation from France. Thanks


Agnelo Fernandes English in Provence


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[Goanet]Goanet Membership Rules

[Herman Carneiro]

We at Goanet Administration would like to take this opportunity to thank
all of our members for their continued respectful discourse on issues
that are of common interest. We believe that Goanet is uniquely
qualified to offer a venue for communication on varied issues. In a
continuing effort to ensure that this forum remains respectful, we will
take this opportunity to repost The Rules and Guidelines. Please direct
comments and suggestions to Goanet Administration at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please note that membership to this discussion group is provided FREE of
charge. In the event any person soliciting a financial contribution for
membership to the List approaches you, please report the incident to the
List's administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RULES

1. Do not use foul or abusive language.

2. Do not engage in personal attacks. In other words, no name-calling.

3. Spam is not tolerated on this list. Goanet treats repeated postings,
commercial posts, lengthy reposts of an earlier posting, among others,
as spam. If you're quoting an earlier post, quote the minimum.

4. Do not send attachments or images with your message; text files
should not be sent as an attachment, rather, copy the text into your
message.

5. Use your real name as the Sender, not an alias.

6. Use a meaningful Subject Line.

7. Do not post messages in HTML or MIME formats, i.e. no bold, italics,
colored text, etc. Rather, format your emails in plain text only.

8. If you are copying a post from a website, post a brief description of
what you would like to communicate and include the URL address.

9. Do not post advertisements. Commercial postings have to be paid for
if circulated via Goanet. The Goanet Admin?s decisions on all matters
are final.

10. Once a particular discussion is declared "closed" by the Goanet
Admin Team, anyone continuing that discussion is likely to face action.
Every effort will be made to keep discussions democratic, free and open,
but when a topic goes on endlessly in circles or threatens to transgress
decent debate, or for any similar reasons, the Admin Team will be
empowered to declare that discussion "closed."

A violation of any of the rules will result in a reprimand. Subsequent
violations could result in suspended or terminated membership. The
decision to suspend or terminate membership will be a function of the
severity and frequency of the breaches.


GUIDELINES

a. Post material which is relevant to Goan communities worldwide.

b. Keep your message brief.

c. Do not forward private email to the list without permission from the
author.

d. If you face a problem with another member, bring the complaint to
Goanet Administration at [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than to the
list.

e. Use civil language and a polite tone in all your discussions.


TIPS

i. Use a "smiley" to indicate a lighthearted comment, e.g. =) :-) B^)

ii. New members might want to observe how the list works before posting,
or can check out the archives at:

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iii. Pay attention to where your reply is going - do you really want the
entire list to receive your message, or would you rather limit the
audience?

iv. Post a brief profile of yourself to the list as soon as possible
after joining.

v. If you have problems with the volume of mail, shift to the
Goanet-Digest. You will receive one to three e-mails a day depending on
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WE NEED YOUR HELP!

1. Publicize the existence of the Lists.

2. Volunteer your time. Goanet is a volunteer-driven organization.

3. Encourage the newer and silent members to post to these Lists.

4. Send us the email addresses of people who might be interested in
joining these Lists - we will not include them unless they agree to be
part of Goanet or Goanet-Digest.

5. GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK - we appreciate all comments, complaints and
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Many thanks to our volunteers for all their hard work:

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[Goanet]Goanet's 9th Birthday

[Herman Carneiro]

Today marks the Goanet’s nineth birthday. Launched on August 25th, 1994,
Goanet was the first mailing list for Goans worldwide. I’d like to take
this opportunity to thank all of you who have helped make Goanet a success.

I cannot possibly name everyone who has been instrumental in its success.
We've had various organizations host us and given us a platform to grow
such as Northeastern University and GOACOM. We have various people
contribute to discussions at various times. They’ve made the list
interesting and lively. We also have silent members who show their support
by just being subscribed to the list and help us when called upon. They
play an important role too for we cannot have everyone posting to the
list. Many thanks for all of you for your role in Goanet's success.

There is a group, however, which I would like to send  special thanks to –
the Goanet admin team. Here’s to our present volunteers Vivian  Coelho,
Fred Noronha, Bosco D'Mello abd Vincente Fernandes, who work hard behind
the scenes to  ensure our lists run smoothly. Thank you for all your hard
work! And, thank you too to all the volunteers who have previously helped
us.

In the future I’d like to see the Goanet community become more involved
with Goan communities worldwide. Goanet is a unique tool through which we
can  work together to help each other. I’d also like to see more people to
participate in discussions and become more active in our community.
Together we can make this list vibrant and more attractive.

Goanet’s birthday is something for us all to celebrate. I’d like to invite
you to share your Goanet experience with us, whether you are an old-timer
or a new comer.

Viva Goanet!!!

Best wishes,

- Herman

Herman Carneiro
Boston, USA





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[Goanet]MAILBOX OVERFLOWING? SWITCH TO Goanet DIGEST!

[Herman Carneiro]

MAILBOX OVERFLOWING? SWITCH TO Goanet DIGEST!


If you are feeling overwhelmed by the volume of Goanet posts, but want
to be sure you don't miss anything, try one of our Digests.  These are
daily compilations of the unabridged posts, which come with a list of
contents at the top which you can quickly scan to see what interests
you.

If you like the idea of switching to a Digest, change your membership
setting to "digest" at:

Goanet
http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet

If you have any problems, please feel free to contact the Goanet admin
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Happy reading -- and don't forget to introduce new members to Goanet!

Best wishes,

The Goanet Administration Team
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[Goanet]Goanet Membership Rules

[Herman Carneiro]

We at Goanet Administration would like to take this opportunity to thank
all of our members for their continued respectful discourse on issues
that are of common interest. We believe that Goanet is uniquely
qualified to offer a venue for communication on varied issues. In a
continuing effort to ensure that this forum remains respectful, we will
take this
opportunity to repost The Rules and Guidelines. Please direct comments
and suggestions to Goanet Administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please note that membership to this discussion group is provided FREE of
charge. In the event any person soliciting a financial contribution for
membership to the List approaches you, please report the incident to the
List's administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RULES

1. Do not use foul or abusive language.

2. Do not engage in personal attacks. In other words, no name-calling.

3. Spam is not tolerated on this list. Goanet treats repeated postings,
commercial posts, lengthy reposts of an earlier posting, among others,
as spam. If you're quoting an earlier post, quote the minimum.

4. Do not send attachments or images with your message; text files
should not be sent as an attachment, rather, copy the text into your
message.

5. Use your real name as the Sender, not an alias.

6. Use a meaningful Subject Line.

7. Do not post messages in HTML or MIME formats, i.e. no bold, italics,
colored text, etc. Rather, format your emails in plain text only.

8. If you are copying a post from a website, post a brief description of
what you would like to communicate and include the URL address.

9. Do not post advertisements. Commercial postings have to be paid for
if circulated via Goanet. The Goanet Admin?s decisions on all matters
are final.

10. Once a particular discussion is declared "closed" by the Goanet
Admin Team, anyone continuing that discussion is likely to face action.
Every effort will be made to keep discussions democratic, free and open,
but when a topic goes on endlessly in circles or threatens to transgress
decent debate, or for any similar reasons, the Admin Team will be
empowered to declare that discussion "closed."

A violation of any of the rules will result in a reprimand. Subsequent
violations could result in suspended or terminated membership. The
decision to suspend or terminate membership will be a function of the
severity and frequency of the breaches.


GUIDELINES

a. Post material which is relevant to Goan communities worldwide.

b. Keep your message brief.

c. Do not forward private email to the list without permission from the
author.

d. If you face a problem with another member, bring the complaint to
Goanet Administration at [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than to the
list.

e. Use civil language and a polite tone in all your discussions.


TIPS

i. Use a "smiley" to indicate a lighthearted comment, e.g. =) :-) B^)

ii. New members might want to observe how the list works before posting,
or can check out the archives at:

http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goa-net/

iii. Pay attention to where your reply is going - do you really want the
entire list to receive your message, or would you rather limit the
audience?

iv. Post a brief profile of yourself to the list as soon as possible
after joining.

v. If you have problems with the volume of mail, shift to the
Goanet-Digest. You will receive one to three e-mails a day depending on
the list?s activity. To join Goanet-Digest contact Goanet Administration
at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


WE NEED YOUR HELP!

1. Publicize the existence of the Lists.

2. Volunteer your time. Goanet is a volunteer-driven organization.

3. Encourage the newer and silent members to post to these Lists.

4. Send us the email addresses of people who might be interested in
joining these Lists - we will not include them unless they agree to be
part of Goanet or Goanet-Digest.

5. GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK - we appreciate all comments, complaints and
bouquets. You can reach us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Many thanks to our volunteers for all their hard work:

Bosco D?Mello (email formatting, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Vincente Fernandes (birthdays and anniversaries, [EMAIL PROTECTED])


Goanet Administration Team:

Herman Carneiro, Boston, MA, USA
Vivian Coelho, San Francisco, CA, USA
Fred Noronha, Goa, India




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[Goanet][Fwd: accom rqstd] from Gerry Monteiro

[Herman Carneiro]

 Original Message 
Subject: accom rqstd
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, July 19, 2003 2:41 am
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Request to Canada's Goans in Toronto/Brampton
Am planning to visit Canada early Sept and would appreciate any help for
a  room to stay in initially for 5/6th Sept and then from 11th-17th
Sept.  Have been invited for a wedding and am taking this opp to
revisit. Thanks
Gerry Monteiro
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[Goanet]Goanet Membership Rules

[Herman Carneiro]

We at Goanet Administration would like to take this opportunity to thank
all of our members for their continued respectful discourse on issues that
are of common interest. We believe that Goanet is uniquely qualified to
offer a venue for communication on varied issues. In a continuing effort
to ensure that this forum remains respectful, we will take this
opportunity to repost The Rules and Guidelines. Please direct comments and
suggestions to Goanet Administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please note that membership to this discussion group is provided FREE of
charge. In the event any person soliciting a financial contribution for
membership to the List approaches you, please report the incident to the
List's administration at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RULES

1. Do not use foul or abusive language.

2. Do not engage in personal attacks. In other words, no name-calling.

3. Spam is not tolerated on this list. Goanet treats repeated postings,
commercial posts, lengthy reposts of an earlier posting, among others, as
spam. If you're quoting an earlier post, quote the minimum.

4. Do not send attachments or images with your message; text files should
not be sent as an attachment, rather, copy the text into your message.

5. Use your real name as the Sender, not an alias.

6. Use a meaningful Subject Line.

7. Do not post messages in HTML or MIME formats, i.e. no bold, italics,
colored text, etc. Rather, format your emails in plain text only.

8. If you are copying a post from a website, post a brief description of
what you would like to communicate and include the URL address.

9. Do not post advertisements. Commercial postings have to be paid for if
circulated via Goanet. The Goanet Admin?s decisions on all matters are
final.

10. Once a particular discussion is declared "closed" by the Goanet Admin
Team, anyone continuing that discussion is likely to face action. Every
effort will be made to keep discussions democratic, free and open, but
when a topic goes on endlessly in circles or threatens to transgress
decent debate, or for any similar reasons, the Admin Team will be
empowered to declare that discussion "closed."

A violation of any of the rules will result in a reprimand. Subsequent
violations could result in suspended or terminated membership. The
decision to suspend or terminate membership will be a function of the
severity and frequency of the breaches.


GUIDELINES

a. Post material which is relevant to Goan communities worldwide.

b. Keep your message brief.

c. Do not forward private email to the list without permission from the
author.

d. If you face a problem with another member, bring the complaint to
Goanet Administration at [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than to the list.

e. Use civil language and a polite tone in all your discussions.


TIPS

i. Use a "smiley" to indicate a lighthearted comment, e.g. =) :-) B^)

ii. New members might want to observe how the list works before posting,
or can check out the archives at:

http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goa-net/

iii. Pay attention to where your reply is going - do you really want the
entire list to receive your message, or would you rather limit the
audience?

iv. Post a brief profile of yourself to the list as soon as possible after
joining.

v. If you have problems with the volume of mail, shift to the
Goanet-Digest. You will receive one to three e-mails a day depending on
the list?s activity. To join Goanet-Digest contact Goanet Administration
at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


WE NEED YOUR HELP!

1. Publicize the existence of the Lists.

2. Volunteer your time. Goanet is a volunteer-driven organization.

3. Encourage the newer and silent members to post to these Lists.

4. Send us the email addresses of people who might be interested in
joining these Lists - we will not include them unless they agree to be
part of Goanet or Goanet-Digest.

5. GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK - we appreciate all comments, complaints and
bouquets. You can reach us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Many thanks to our volunteers for all their hard work:

Bosco D?Mello (email formatting, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Vincente Fernandes (birthdays and anniversaries, [EMAIL PROTECTED])


Goanet Administration Team:

Herman Carneiro, Boston, MA, USA
Vivian Coelho, San Francisco, CA, USA
Fred Noronha, Goa, India




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[Goanet]MAILBOX OVERFLOWING? SWITCH TO Goanet DIGEST!

[Herman Carneiro]

MAILBOX OVERFLOWING? SWITCH TO Goanet DIGEST!


If you are feeling overwhelmed by the volume of Goanet posts, but want to
be sure you don't miss anything, try one of our Digests.  These are daily
compilations of the unabridged posts, which come with a list of contents
at the top which you can quickly scan to see what interests you.

If you like the idea of switching to a Digest, change your membership
setting to "digest" at:

Goanet
http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet

If you have any problems, please feel free to contact the Goanet admin
team at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Happy reading -- and don't forget to introduce new members to Goanet!

Best wishes,

The Goanet Administration Team
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[Goanet] Goanet update

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Goanet members,

Today, all of you will have received an email telling you that you were
unsubscribed from Goanet. You should have received an email welcoming you
back to the list as well. I apologise for the confusion. We had to go
through the list and change all the addresses @goatelecom.com to
@sancharnet.in.

We can't possibly respond to all the email we got today enquiring why you
were unsubscribed. If for any reason you or someone you know do not
receive email from Goanet in the near future, please get back to us and
we'll resubscribe you.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns, please feel free to
contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Many thanks,

Herman Carneiro
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[Goanet] Technical problems with Goanet

[Herman Carneiro]

Dear Goanet Members,

We had a few technical problems with Goanet over the last couple of days.
The problems started on June 16th or 17th and carried on until June 19th
or 20th. Some of you might have noticed that you didn't receive email from
Goanet. Everything seems to be working well again. We would like to thank
you for your patience during this time. We apologize for any inconvenience
caused.

As a results of the technical problems, some of you might have sent emails
to Goanet which did not get through. We ask that you please resend them.
Please check the archives to see if your email got through at:

http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2003-June/date.html

If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Sincerely,

Herman Carneiro

Goanet Admin
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[Goanet] Goanet Membership Rules and Guidelines

[Herman Carneiro]

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[Goanet] [Fwd: The Americans are our best friends]

[Herman Carneiro]

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 Original Message 
Subject: The Americans are our best friends
From: Mervyn Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, March 28, 2003 6:38 pm
To: Tanzanet org <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mar. 28, 2003.
The Toronto Star
Coming to aid of 'family' a myth
The idea that the U.S. would rush to save us is
touching. The reality is less comforting, says
historian James Laxer
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When U.S. ambassador Paul Cellucci said that his
country was disappointed because Canada was not at
America's side in the Iraq war, he claimed that if
Canada faced a security threat "there would be no
debate. There would be no hesitation. We would be
there for Canada."

That's the way things ought to be when you're dealing
with "family," the ambassador told a Toronto business
audience.

The idea that the United States would rush to our side
is touching.

The only problem is that there has not been a single
case to which anyone can point when the U.S. has come
to our side to meet a security threat to Canada since
the Thirteen Colonies declared their independence in
1776.

The two countries have been allies in previous
conflicts when Washington and Ottawa decided that
their interests were parallel. In the two world wars,
the Americans sat out the first couple of years of the
conflicts while Canada was at war.

Indeed, during World War I while it was still neutral,
the United States continued to export Canadian nickel
to Germany.

As an Ontario Royal Commission later reported, some of
that nickel went into the production of munitions that
were used against Canadian soldiers in the trenches.

Early in World War II, when Canada dispatched an RCMP
vessel to Greenland to ensure that the island not be
taken over by the Nazis, the Americans, perhaps
fearing the rise of a Canadian empire, issued a stiff
official complaint to Ottawa.

Later, in the war, the U.S. occupied Greenland.

By no stretch of the imagination could anyone claim
that the United States entered any of its many foreign
conflicts over the past two centuries out of concern
for the security interests of Canada.

The truth is the U.S. has relentlessly stood up for
its own interests in a long list of security conflicts
with Canada.

Several acute boundary disputes between the two
countries — on the East Coast, the West Coast, and
over the Alaska boundary — came close to generating
military conflict between Canada and the U.S.

At the end of the American Civil War, the U.S.
secretary of state suggested that Americans would get
over their hard feelings toward the British for
selling naval vessels to the Confederacy if Britain
would hand over Canada to the United States.

Indeed, there remains a very potent territorial
dispute between the United States and Canada over the
question of Arctic waters.

While Canada claims the waters of the High Arctic as
Canadian territory, the U.S. rejects that claim,
insisting the Northwest Passage is an international
waterway. Twice the U.S. has sent warships through
that passage, without seeking the permission of
Ottawa, to keep its claim alive.

In his speech to the Economic Club of Toronto,
Cellucci said "we'll have to wait and see if there are
any ramifications" as a result of the current
squabble. Analysts and right-wing Canadian politicians
who have warned darkly of the economic consequences
that could flow from offending our largest trading
partner, apparently have not given much thought to the
nature of Canadian exports to the U.S.

The overwhelming bulk of our exports to the U.S. are
autos and auto parts, pulp and paper, nickel, oil and
natural gas, and other primary products — most of this
shipped south by U.S.-owned corporations.

To punish Canada, Washington would have to shoot
itself, or more exactly, General Motors, in the foot.

In the few acute trade disputes Canada has with the
U.S., it seems not to make much difference how Canada
behaves.

Sending Canadian troops to serve under a U.S.
commander in Afghanistan did nothing to win Washington
over to Canada's position on softwood lumber.

The Chrétien government decided that it was not in the
interest of Canada to participate in an arguably
illegal assault on a small country that poses no
direct threat to the United States.

For a middle size country like ours, multilateralism
and respect for international law are essential to our
survival as a sovereign country. The government of
Canada was acting in our national interest.

Cellucci was not wrong when he suggested that the U.S.
and Canada are like members of a family, although a
rather dysfunctional one. The older sibling left home
early, while the younger sibling stayed home hoping
that mom would help fend off assaults from big
brother.

In practice, living next door to a superpower means
that the superpower can be counted on to defend you
against everyone except itself.

[Goanet] [Fwd: Re:SUICIDES IN GOA] from Dennis Kurzon

[Herman Carneiro]

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 Original Message 
Subject: Re:SUICIDES IN GOA
From: "Dennis Kurzon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, March 19, 2003 5:01 am
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Over the last 100 days (from December 9 2002 till March 19, 2003), I
have been taking note of suicides in Goa, as reported in the daily news
extracts we get from Joel D'Souza.

The following figures appear:

In these 100 days, there have been 27 suicides (just over one every 4
days) -- 17 were males and 10 females.
The average age of male suicides is 33.64 and of female suicides 28.8.
The overall average age is 31.85.
The youngest make suicide was 18 and the oldest 56, while the youngest
female suicide was 16 and the oldest 53.

I am not a sociologist, neither a psychologist. But I find these figures
disturbing.
Comments?

Prof. Dennis Kurzon

Department of English
University of Haifa
Israel 31905

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: 972-4-8240532
fax: 972-4-8249711

http://english.haifa.ac.il/staff/dKurzon.htm




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[Goanet] Topics closed to discussion

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Dear Goanet members,

We, the Goanet Admin team, are closing discussion on the thread "I AM
GOAN" to prevent the discussion from getting out of hand. We feel that
everyone has had ample opportunity to contribute to their views to the
discussion.  Furthermore, these issues have been previously discussed
indepth.

Please note that any further posts on this topic will be rejected.

If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us.
And, we look forward to healthy discussion on other topics.

Many thanks,

Herman Carneiro
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Dear Allwyn,

Thank you for the suggestion. We've set the reply-to to go back to the list 
because it facilitates discussion on Goanet. We ask that members please pay 
attention where the post is going.

Goanet is now moderated. We try as much as possible to channel personal 
emails to the appropriate recipients.

I wouldn't call Helga's post below embarrassing :)

Regards,

- Herman



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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] reply-to in goanet
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:19:23 -0800

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Can goanet-admin consider unsetting the reply-to field in messages posted to 
goanet?  This is a tricky field, which can catch someone by surprise.  The 
user thinks s/he's replying only to sender, but the reply is sent to the 
whole group because of the presence of this field in the message header.  I 
have seen people post embarassing stuff, including personal details, because 
they thought they were replying only to sender, who they perhaps knew 
personally, but the message went to a whole group.  Consider for example 
(which does not contain embarassing personal details, but I think was 
perhaps meant as a reply only to sender):

--- begin extract ---

Subject:  Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Sons-of-the-soil sentiment taking root in Goa 
again
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:45:01 -0500
From: "Helga do Rosario Gomes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I wish I had thought of saying that Santosh!
---Helga

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[Goanet] Re: Mopa Airport : Boon or Bane?

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Subject: Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #33 - 11 msgs
From: "josephmaria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, March 5, 2003 1:42 pm
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dear readers
I agree to the article about the mopa airport robert has made a point
about dabolin is central to all. buinding another airport at such a huge
expense is not going to increase the tourist trade as you can see last
year the uk flights were reduced. it wiuld be far better to inprove the
current airport and improve the facilities available
joseph


> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 10:31:56 +0530
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Goanet] Mopa Airport : Boon or Bane?

> The State government recently issued a notification to acquire land
> for the construction of the new Mopa International Airport.
> Goa is a tiny State consisting of a population of about 15 lakhs which
> is spread into just two districts of the State...




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[Goanet] Fwd: DEATH OF ALZIRA VAZ

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Original Message Follows
From: "JAM DE SOUZA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DEATH OF ALZIRA
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:43:05 +0300
SADLY I HAVE TO INFORM YOU THIS MORNING
THAT
MRS ALZIRA ZUZARTE VAZ

PASSED AWAY IN NAIROBI KENYA

WIFE OF NEVES VAZ
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Re: [Goanet] Apology :Re CROSS POSTING

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Dear Floriano,

There is no need to apologise. I'm sure that our members will put this issue 
to rest now.

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Subject: [Goanet] Apology :Re CROSS POSTING
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 08:29:30 +0530
To,
Goanet Administration.
I sincerely apologize for my CROSS-POSTING to 'Goanet' from 'GoanCauses'
(Unsubscribe from GoanCauses List) which has created a misunderstanding and 
an unnecessary reaction from the members of the
GOANET. I regret the inconvenience caused.

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[Goanet] Happy belated birthday!

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Wishing Nancy Medeira from Kuwait a happy belated birthday. She celebrated
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Re: [Goanet] Ref Goanet Vol.1#18 Goa Suraj Unsubscribed

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Dear Goanetters,

Please note that Floriano and Luis were not banned from Goanet. Rather, they 
were banned from a mailiing list called goan-causes, run by Agnelo Gomes. 
Goan-causes is run on Yahoo! groups at:

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Subject: Re: [Goanet] Ref Goanet Vol.1#18 Goa Suraj Unsubscribed
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:51:34 -0800 (PST)
This Goanet sucks. Don't worry Floriano, I too was unsubscribed, but the 
jackasses still send me their drivel.

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I was stunned to see that Mr. Floriano Lobo has been unsubscribed by
your coordinator for being, of all things, "Anti-Goan and Pro-Indian" !!
Anyone who has read any of Floriano's articles in Newspapers and Goanet,
would know that he is one of the great Champions of the Goan cause, showing
up the Government in a number of their betrayals and failed promises to the
Goan people. Also I see nothing wrong in being "Pro-Indian" just as long
as they are not Anti-Goan. India after all is our own, our native land.
Surely there's a misunderstanding somewhere that needs to be cleared?

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[Goanet] Fwd: Portuguese Passport

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Original Message Follows
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Subject: Portuguese Passport
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:01:29 +

Hello,

The email below has been forwarded to me, as l have a little
knowledge of the procedure to obtain portuguese passport. If
you are able please send me the email of the person seeking
advice as l may be able to help.

Best regards,

GREGG CARVALHO





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Hello,

I would like to migrate but am not able to obtain the required
points. I have two brothers abroad, one in the States and one in
Australia. My mother was born in Panjim. I would be making a trip to Goa
this week.Could you let me know how I should go about getting the spade
work done for obtaining my mother's birth certificate and routing my
immigration through a portuguese passport so that it would be easier for
me to migrate.

I would be grateful for a response from you.
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[Goanet] [Fwd: Basic Course in Naturopathy]

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 Original Message 
Subject: Basic Course in Naturopathy
From: "Bosco - xyz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, February 18, 2003 12:03 pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please respond directly to Dominican Training Centre
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From: Dominican Training Centre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: For Goanet digest.
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:47:56 +0530

Dear Sir,

Greetings from Moira ! Please put this on to your
mailing list of " Goa Net" if you find it useful.

Thank you in anticipation.

Kind regards,
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