[Goanet] The Kitchen Prayer

2006-06-09 Thread Livia/Jorge de Abreu Noronha

Dear Netters

I would like to share the following prayer with you since I had to copy it 
to send it a a friend of mine who visited me lately. I have had it on a bone 
china plate plate in my kitchen since 1965. I have not been able to find a 
similar plate since then.


When I googled for it I was surprised to learn that the prayer is attributed 
to St. Teresa of Avila, however, my version has additional lines which I 
have included in brackets.
I hope it will be appreciated by one and all, inspite of the fact that boots 
and shoes are rarely blacked now a days and floors no longer scrubbed but 
swapped. Am I right?


The Kitchen Prayer
attributed to St. Teresa of Avila
God walks among the pots and pans:
"Lord of all pots and pans and things, since I've no time to be a great 
saint by doing lovely things, or watching late with Thee, or dreaming in the 
dawnlight, or storming heaven's gates, make me a saint by getting meals, and 
washing up the plates.
(Although I must have Martha's hands, I have a Mary mind, and when I black 
the boots and shoes, Thy sandals, Lord I find. I think of how they trod the 
earth, each time I scrub the floor; Accept this meditation Lord - I haven't 
time for more.)Warm all the kitchen with Thy Love, and light it with Thy 
peace; forgive me all my worrying, and make my grumbling cease.Thou who 
didst love to give men food, in room, or by the sea, accept the service that 
I do-I do it unto Thee."


Regards

Livia 



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[Goanet] Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 565 Message 6

2006-06-06 Thread Livia/Jorge de Abreu Noronha

I really do not see why such big issue is being made on the term
"Continental Portugal". Our Madeira and Azores brothers/sisters refer to us,
living on the mainland as "Continentais". And they themselves have a special
statute and benesses because of their "Insularidade". It appears as though
to the usual "lusophobians" Portugal is just landscape with Lisbon for
capital.

Those who have watched the series "Contacto Goa" on RTPi may be a bit
confused with the various interviews, etc. Korlai and Chaul said a lot, so
did Daman with the Portuguese flag being ostensively exhibited.
Those who have been following the developments in East Timor might have
heard more "Viva Portugal" than any other "Vivas". Even the welcome
reception given to our soldiers. Portugal is small, poor and insignificant
but it is still to be said that  "os homens nao se medem aos palmos".

I hope the above explanation does not disturb the altready disturbed minds
of  "Amigos de Portugal".

Livia de Abreu Noronha

Dear Cornel,


Doutor Colaço has already given his opinion about this.
I just want to calrify that I obviously do not consider Portugal a
continent, nor assume it has ever been a continent. I have also never said
or implied so.

What I meant by "continental Portugal", was "mainland Portugal". During
the
colonial empire, Portugal consisted of its mainland, situated on the
Iberian
Peninsula, and several other territories spread over other continents. I
guess the same is used regarding Europe, when we oppose "continental
Europe"
to the United Kingdom, for example in regard to political differences
about
the future of the European Union. If I am wrong, I am sorry about that. I
must have it from the Portuguese language, where we use this concept
"continental" with this meaning.

Anyway, I hope you have understood by now what I meant by "continental
Europe" and satisfied your query, and allowed you to better understand my
ideas in my text. That was your objective, wasn't it?

I am sure there are good chances that you know some places in Portugal
better than me. That happens often, that people from abroad know your
place
better than yourself. That's what people tell me when I am in Goa, for
example. And North Africa is still a grey spot on my own travelling map.

Yes, I wrote a weakly and fortnightly column called "Global Goan" for over
two years in the Goan Observer, for free. Does that imply that I have no
right to have my opinion about that newspaper or about the media in Goa? I
don't think so. I hope you trust my impartiality and good faith.

Thank you
Constantino





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Cornel wrote to Constantino:

1: Thank you very much for your explanation for your
contemporary, repeat, contemporary use of "continental
Portugal"

2: I very much regret to say that your use of
"continental Portugal" is quite misleading. It is also
totally inappropriate and incorrect. Portugal is not
a continent.

3: Did you once say on Goanet that you were a regular
writer for the weekly Observer in Goa? The mind simply
boggles, but I wish you well



Dear Cornel,

Please allow me to disagree with you.

The term "continental Portugal" does not imply that
Portugal is a 'continent'; neither does the term
"continental USA".

It only indicates (as with the US) areas which are not
on the mainland i.e. Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Virgin
Islands, Guam etc.

The term "mainland" would have (to some) been a 'more
appropriate' word, but I submit  a less
'politically correct' word.

It would mean that the 50 contiguous states in the US
are kind of "Brahmin" vaddos ...while the others are
"Sokoilo" or "Sudra" vaddos.

Accordingly..In some archipelagic countries, the
islands formerly known as "Out" Islands are now called
"Family" Islands.

Never mind Tino and his part time contribution to the
Goa Observer. He is still a young student.

You and I claim to have passed that stage, though I
remain a student. Even so, we should have known that -
should we not have?

sincerely

jc

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[Goanet] Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 240

2005-11-26 Thread Livia/Jorge de Abreu Noronha

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Beautifully said. Nobody could have said it better. Keep on the "combate"
There may not be any "winners" but there will definitely be  a lot of
"defeated".

Livia de Abreu Nornha


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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:45:31 +0530
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Subject: [Goanet] Re: Fontainhas Festival of Arts: GHAG-ESG JV
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Dears,

It is easier to walk barefoot than with a stone in one's shoe. Principal
Subhash Velingkar has his Portuguese education troubling his saffron soul;
the past and his caste haunts Comrade Flaviano Dias and I really do not
know
which side of the Fundacao Oriente fence I will find the
Portuguese-speaking
Freedom Fighter and Konknni poet, Nagesh Karmali. Between the three, give
me
Nagesh any day!

The greatest joke of all is that all who accept Goa in its present
geographical boundaries acknowledge, at least by default, the colonial
era's
contribution. Today's Goa is the creation of the colonial power; like it
or
lump it. There is no third option! Did some of these worthies not serve
the
Portuguese colonial regime while it lasted.

The Catholics in Goa have unnecessarily been on the defensive. They are
labelled as having been Portuguese collaborators. How then do we get only
Salgaocars, Dempos, Chowgules, Mangaljis, Timblos when we rattle off the
names of people who own large mining leases from the colonial rulers. If
they are more patriotic than the people of Fontainhas, let these worthies
get the mine owners to surrender their leases to the Government of India.
Instead , we have these mine owners surreptiously cutting free Goa
Government-owned forests on the strength of these colonial leases. They
bribe the middle order Forest Officials. Thank God for the Chief
Conservator
of Forests' order cancelling the ill-gotten licence in Dabal-Sanguem
recently. Almost a thousand cashew trees in land where the local community
enjoys usufruct rights were chopped down before the CCF's action came.
There
was a Gram Sabha in Dabal just as there was in Assagao against tree
cutting
for a Saturday Night Bazaar.





[Goanet]Re: Goanet digest - World Goa Day has come to Stay

2005-08-19 Thread Livia/Jorge de Abreu Noronha

Dear Professor George

Don't you know the saying in our Goa in our own Konkani?

"Fest korta ganv, Presidentichem nanv."

All the Best

Livia Noronha


Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:50:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: goanet@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Re: World Goa Day Has Come to Stay - a reflection
Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org

Dear Basilio:

Your reflection is wrong in some respects. I am surprized that you are not 
aware that the idea of
World Goa Day was an idea initiated by Filomena Giese which I had posted 
in 1999 (check the Goanet
archives). Subsequently, Jorge Noronha and Rene Barretto suggested dates 
(I had suggested Jan 1
to reflect a new beginning for Goa in the New Year). 






[Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #2251 - 14 msgs

2005-06-07 Thread livia/jorge de abreu noronha

Sorry Gabriel Bab, I only wanted to correct "Pipam Kara" to "Pilam Kara" to
make some sense but somehow I seem to have changed both the lines. Actually
the way I learnt the song was:

"intum intum bois mora pilam kara
pilam sandunu moro ghelo b'urrah".

The above rhyme is to be sung by holding baby's both hands, coupling the
right hand and pointing all the fingers  into the left palm and lifting
both the palms of the babyat the end  while saying " b'urrah" as though the
bird took a flight.

There is no doubt that it is important to the babies to link the gesture
with the words.

Sorry for that.


> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:40:39 +1000 (EST)
> From: Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Goanet]Besides, 'Dol Mojea Bai..' what else you remember??
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
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> --- JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > INTUN INTUN BOS RE MORA, PIPAM KARA,
> > PIPAM SANDDUN MOR UDDLO GHARA


A few more that I can remember and may be the 1st one is not a "politically
correct" one.

Tontea gheli Cabai
Tontea mhoron oddunk rabai (True Salcete )
Tontea mhoron pavlam Betulantum
Tonto dudu punzaita pettulantum..

Another one: Mannu hapainnu babak mojea gallo bandari
 Ani mogachea papan taka kallo handari

A song for all seasons and with a sense of  very"politically
correct". Or has it something to do with "Reminders from the Dead" or
"Legados Pios" as written by Bosco de Souza Eremita?

Daon, Daon, dindaon, dindaon
Infernantlem almo haum
Rat dis bhonvtam, gheun lampiao
Farir khorunk Restituicao(?)
Aka taka nagoun hanvem girestai dovorlea khonnu
Ghoro mojem padda podlem sogloch lokhu mornu.

Let us "nihalea" on the last iem for today.

Livia

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[Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #2251 - 14 msgs

2005-06-06 Thread livia/jorge de abreu noronha
 Re: Besides, 'Dol Mojea Bai..' what else you remember?? (Gabriel de
Figueiredo)

I think it went as "Intum Intum Bos re Mora, pilam (chicks) Kadda, pilam
kaddun mor ubhun ghela".

I recall holding baby's tiny hands and clapping:  "doni bobe ani donim
bobulam
  bobeank pitt kaloilam, pitt assa punn ghodd na
  posrear otolo konn nam, babalo (baielo) papa ghara nam"

and again when the "Kavllo" sat on the window sill crowing:

"Kam, Kam re kavllea, babalea (baelea) papac dekhlolo
oi re oi, to taka pipitam (sweets) ghetalo, tim tajea mogachea babac (baiec)
mhunttalo"

"Gonnin, gonnim, paktte aloi, satoi ganv bhoun io
Pilanchi panji gheun io ge, pilanchi panji gheun io."

Imagine all the above lullabyes related with our Goan birds and with mother
nature. I am happy to tell you that the last song always pacified my
children and grandchildren as well and put them immediately to sleep.

 Just a stray thought, to quote our Raj Narayan, my daughter went down to
Goa with her husband  (paclo) and small baby, and they were caught in the
confusion of the invasion of Kuwait by Saddam and so had to travel by bus
from Goa to Bombay and Bombay airport was a mess, their flight to London
delayed, etc. etc., having missed the connecting flight to Lisbon. The baby,
just a year old, usually peaceful and cheerful, decided that it had had
enough of all this and started howling, wanting to bring down the Heathrow
Airport. As related to me by my daughter, her husband took him from her arms
and started "lulling" him and singing "gonni, gonni." and the baby
immediately quietened down and went to sleep. To date we do not know what
words he used because she herself does not know the words except for the
first line which is pronounced by her with a very Portuguese accent".

Some more later.

Livia




[Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #1787 - msg 7

2005-01-01 Thread livia/jorge de abreu noronha
A Woman's prayer at this time of the Year ("One has just ended and a New one
has just begun", is this how the song goes) is the one I share with you
below:

"The Kitchen Prayer"

Lord of all pots and pans and things, since I have not time to be
   A saint by doing lovely things or watching late ith Thee.
Or dreaming in the dawn light, or storming Heaven's gates,
   Make me a saint by getting meals and washing up the plates
Although I must have Martha's hands, I have a Mary mind
  And when I black the boots and shoes, Thy sandals, Lord I find.
I think of how they trod the earth, each time I scrub the floor;
Accept this meditation Lord - I haven't time for more.
Warm all the kitchen with Thy love and light it with Thy peace.
  Forgive me all my worry, and make my grumbling cease.
Thou who didst love to give men food, in room or by the sea.
  Accept this service that I do, I do it unto Thee.


Happy New Year to each and everyone

Livia Noronha