Re: [Goanet] Re: Two great men
George-- Have to disagree with you. Anyone who can liberate 50 million people from tyranny, drive the Syrians out out of the Lebanon without firing a shot, have Qaddafi surrender his WMDs, help institute elections in several feudal Mideast countries, steal Arab Oil, etc., etc., cannot be totally incompetent... - Original Message - From: "George Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:27 PM Subject: [Goanet] Re: Two great men Chris, Bush is not an incompentent warmonger. He is a competent warmonger and incompetent President. Regards, George Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is this the same Heilburton guy who raped Iraq economically in cahoots with his buddy the incompetent warmonger Bush and who is now sucking the Kuwaitis and Saudis dry of their precious Oil so that these Arabs will soon be in the poorhouse?
[Goanet] Re: Two great men not
Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Halliburton is not the only company whose stock has > appreciated since 2001 (after 9/11). > Here are other companies in similar industries > (oilfield and engineering services) whose stock > has risen to similar levels OR ABOVE during the > same period (2001 to the present): >Schlumberger Limited $35 - 115.00 >Murphy Exploration 15 - 60.00 >Questar Corp. 20 - 84.00 >Nabors Industries 19 - 80.00 Joy, You are comparing oranges with apples. You have chosen to compare Halliburton with a seismic company, with a trader of electricity and hydrocarbons, and with a pipeline company. > I can cite several others with similar equivalents. > The reason that the price of such stocks has gone > up is due to the fact that there is shortage of oil > and there is feverish exploration activity with > resultant demand for such services... I took a quick look at Halliburton's financials. It's reported sales in Iraq are as below: 2002 1 Million 2003 2.4 BILLION 2004 5.3 BILLION You may be aware that most of Halliburton's contracts in Iraq have not been won by any tender. Everytime a pipeline gets blown up, Halliburton gets another contract. H! > The impression sought to be given is that > Halliburton is making money hand over fist > which goes directly into the pockets of > Bush/Cheney. The facts are: Halliburton lost > money in the last three years to the extent of > $979 (million) in 2004, $820 (million) in 2003 > and $998 (million) in 2002. > These are cold irrefutable facts. What is irrefutable is that you do not know to read a financial statement. Halliburton did not lose money. Between 2003 and 2004, its cash balance increased by one BILLION dollars. Its assets increased by 2 BILLION dollars. In 2004, it took a tax write off for 1.5 BILLION dollars thus turning the results from operations into a tax loss. It will now turn around and ask the US govt for a hand out because it needs money to search for oil in difficult places. In this regard, it's no better than all the other US firm who are seeking the same govt handouts (despite all the oil firms making obscene profits last year.) Yes indeed! this company does "know" how to operate and it reflects in its share price. I would be investing in it too if I could somehow convince myself that the 3,000 Americans who died, are not the cost of investment. One more thing, Halliburton's stock price had fallen from $50 to $10 in the year preceding the invasion of Iraq. > If we as Goans continue with closed minds without > educating ourselves into reality trying to bring > others down as it appears to be our tradition, > we shall continue to remain at the bottom of the heap! I would like to congratulate the person who gave you that piece of advise (even though you have not understood the same :-) > It is a crying shame that some of the posters on > this forum are so blinded in their hate for > Pesident Bush and Mr. Cheney, they would like > to obfuscate statistics to bring these honorable > people down to their level--if it is possible to > drag anyone into the sewer with them... Joy, Bush(43) and Cheney are NOT honourable people. They are war mongers. Lastly talking about sewer people, do you remember one picnic in New York where GOA mothers were screaming at "Joy Braganza" not to shout obscenities in front of their children? Here is what "Joy Braganza's" reported on Goanet, in case you have forgotten. > The New York Goans put on quite a spectacle in full public view to the bemusement of other picnickers. The Whitestone crowd was in full form with choice abuses and physical threats ala Tony Soprano against Hercules of New Jersey and his partner. The Budd Lake Padre was also inebriated and rose to the occasion by rushing towards Hercules and using abuse freely. A Nun kept praying and finally the Padre was unanimously elected and proceeded to imbibe more Feni. Why go to Goa? We have free Tiatr here. Not to be left behind, the former first lady went ballistic and unleashed a torrent of swear words which would make Tony Soprano look mild. And a newcomer sighed-we are after all Goans! God Bless our Goa and Viva!! Joy -- Joy too.
Re: [Goanet] Re: Two great men
> > Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is this the same Heilburton guy who raped Iraq > economically in cahoots with his buddy the incompetent > warmonger Bush and who is now sucking the Kuwaitis and Saudis > dry of their precious Oil so that these Arabs will soon be in > the poorhouse? > --- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chris, Bush is not an incompentent warmonger. He is > a competent warmonger and incompetent President. > Mario responds: > The virulent attacks by George on President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Republicans in general in this thread are gross political misrepresentations. > 1. Far from being a "warmonger", President Bush, after being authorised by UN resolution 1441, deposed the tyrant Saddam Hussein and led the liberation of 27 million Muslims in Iraq. > 2. Far from being an incompetent President, Bush turned around a declining economy inherited from Democrat President Clinton in record time, and, inspite of the shocks of the sneak attack of 9/11, and the subsequent actions to liberate 50 million Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq, has managed a mature US economy that has modest and consistent growth, low inflation, and a 4.8% unemployment rate that is the envy of the rest of the world. > 3. A compassionate conservative, President Bush has pledged 15 BILLION to fight HIV/AIDS in Africa and has fought to forgive the crushing foreign debt owed by struggling African countries and to reduce or eliminate tarriffs that impede exports from Africa. > 4. President Bush has almost DOUBLED the federal spending for anti-poverty programs in the US over that of his predecessor, called by some "the first black US President". > 5. Black home ownership has skyrocketed under President Bush's policies to help lower income Americans own their own homes. > 6. As Vice President of the US, Dick Cheney has no business partners, as George has falsely alleged. > 7. Dick Cheney was instrumental in the elevation of African-Americans Colin Powell and Condi Rice to the most powerful positions in US foreign policy. > 8. President Bush's cabinet has two African Americans, two Hispanics, two Asian Americans and four women, the most diverse cabinet in US history. Two of the four women are minorities. Dick Cheney played a key role in selecting these cabinet members.
[Goanet] Re: Two great men
Chris, Bush is not an incompentent warmonger. He is a competent warmonger and incompetent President. Regards, George > Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this the same Heilburton guy who raped Iraq economically in > cahoots with his buddy the incompetent warmonger Bush and who is > now sucking the Kuwaitis and Saudis dry of their precious Oil > so that these Arabs will soon be in the poorhouse?
Re: [Goanet] Re: Two great men not
It is a crying shame that some of the posters on this forum are so blinded in their hate for Pesident Bush and Mr. Cheney, they would like to obfuscate statistics to bring these honorable people down to their level--if it is possible to drag anyone into the sewer with them... Halliburton is not the only company whose stock has appreciated since 2001 (after 9/11). Here are other companies in similar industries (oilfield and engineering services) whose stock has risen to similar levels OR ABOVE during the same period (2001 to the present): Schlumberger Limited$35 - 115.00 Murphy Exploration15 - 60.00 Questar Corp. 20 - 84.00 Nabors Industries 19 - 80.00 I can cite several others with similar equivalents. The reason that the price of such stocks has gone up is due to the fact that there is shortage of oil and there is feverish exploration activity with resultant demand for such services... The impression sought to be given is that Halliburton is making money hand over fist which goes directly into the pockets of Bush/Cheney. The facts are: Halliburton lost money in the last three years to the extent of $979 (million) in 2004, $820 (million) in 2003 and $998 (million) in 2002. These are cold irrefutable facts. If we as Goans continue with closed minds without educating ourselves into reality trying to bring others down as it appears to be our tradition, we shall continue to remain at the bottom of the heap! Please, let us try to elevate ourselves and stop the bottom feeding! Regards Chris - Original Message - From: "Mervyn Lobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: Two great men not Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is this the same Heilburton guy who raped Iraq economically in cahoots with his buddy the incompetent warmonger Bush and who is now sucking the Kuwaitis and Saudis dry of their precious Oil so that these Arabs will soon be in the poorhouse? Joy, Halliburton, run by Dick Cheney, was trading at USD$20 at the start of the Iraq war. It's now trading at USD$72. Any trader who believed that the US were invading Iraq for oil (instead of "to promote democracy") went out and bought oil stocks. After all, both Cheney and President Bush (43) were oil men before accepting govt positions and will return to trading oil when their terms are over. It helps the two when, coincidentally, their "blind trusts" are loaded with oil stocks. Could Valenzuela and Cuba be far behind in the nefarious Cheney schemes to rob those countries of their Oil? Actually, both countries are a step ahead of Cheney. Venezuela already owns the Citgo chain in the US and has announced that it will supply cheap gas to the American poor. Cuba is willing to do the same too. Joy3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] Re: Two great men not
Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this the same Heilburton guy who raped Iraq > economically in cahoots with > his buddy the incompetent warmonger Bush and who is > now sucking the Kuwaitis and Saudis dry of their > precious Oil so that these Arabs will soon be in the > poorhouse? Joy, Halliburton, run by Dick Cheney, was trading at USD$20 at the start of the Iraq war. It's now trading at USD$72. Any trader who believed that the US were invading Iraq for oil (instead of "to promote democracy") went out and bought oil stocks. After all, both Cheney and President Bush (43) were oil men before accepting govt positions and will return to trading oil when their terms are over. It helps the two when, coincidentally, their "blind trusts" are loaded with oil stocks. > Could Valenzuela and Cuba be far behind in the > nefarious Cheney schemes to rob those countries of > their Oil? Actually, both countries are a step ahead of Cheney. Venezuela already owns the Citgo chain in the US and has announced that it will supply cheap gas to the American poor. Cuba is willing to do the same too. Joy3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] Re: Two great men
Is this the same Heilburton guy who raped Iraq economically in cahoots with his buddy the incompetent warmonger Bush and who is now sucking the Kuwaitis and Saudis dry of their precious Oil so that these Arabs will soon be in the poorhouse? And don't forget, he is now intimidating Old Europe into an unholy alliance to attack Iran (!) so that they can take over Iranian Oil for selfish U.S purposes and send the Ayatollahs to the poorhouse! Could Valenzuela and Cuba be far behind in the nefarious Cheney schemes to rob those countries of their Oil? Vigilance should be the order of the day... Thanks for the reminders, George! Regards Chris - Original Message - From: "George Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:00 AM Subject: [Goanet] Re: Two great men --- | New on Goanet's website's A&E section - http://www.goanet.org | | Book in Review: A Kind of Absence - Joao da Veiga Coutinho | | POEM: SUSEGAAD - Cynthia Gomes James | | http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=216 | --- --- Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Let us also remember ... the Republicans in Congress who helped tip the 1964 Civil Rights Act even when Democrats such as Algore Sr and the Robt Byrd Klaneagle opposed it. The 1960's made strange alliances as both Republicans and Democrats jockeyed for the African-American vote. However, in the relative civil-rights calm of 1979, "freedom and democracy" loving REPUBLICAN Dick Cheney (now Vice-President) voted against the Martin Luther King holiday. He subsequently voted for it in 1983. How did he spend the holiday yesterday honoring Martin Luther King? In true Halliburton style he travelled to Saudi Arabia to meet his oil business partners. Regards, George
[Goanet] Re: Two great men
--- | New on Goanet's website's A&E section - http://www.goanet.org | | Book in Review: A Kind of Absence - Joao da Veiga Coutinho| | POEM: SUSEGAAD - Cynthia Gomes James| | http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=216 | --- --- Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let us also remember ... the Republicans in > Congress who helped tip the 1964 Civil Rights Act even when Democrats such > as Algore Sr and the Robt Byrd Klaneagle opposed it. The 1960's made strange alliances as both Republicans and Democrats jockeyed for the African-American vote. However, in the relative civil-rights calm of 1979, "freedom and democracy" loving REPUBLICAN Dick Cheney (now Vice-President) voted against the Martin Luther King holiday. He subsequently voted for it in 1983. How did he spend the holiday yesterday honoring Martin Luther King? In true Halliburton style he travelled to Saudi Arabia to meet his oil business partners. Regards, George
